On 1/25/24 13:34, Jochen Fromm wrote:
Could you say that a strong character or personality reduce our free will too, because they restrict our choices and decisions?
On 1/26/24 8:18 AM, glen wrote:
Absolutely. If we parse out what character or personality means, we might come to the idea that it's a forcing structure comprised of the cumulative consequences of past decisions. If one's "identity" is (and has been) quasi-stable around, ...
I like (who cares what I like? who cares who cares... ... ....? ) this formulation as it matches my own intuitive conception of "self", "self-image", "ego" and the adaptive value to either/all organism, collective, species... the more stable the "identity", the easier one is to integrate into a larger system (even if the "identity" is highly aggressive/disruptive)...
for the individual organism in predator-prey systems, this can make you an "easy" (or predictable) prey. I think that is what Walter White was doing as he "broke bad", he went from trope-predictable "victim" to "wiley-prey" to "wolf in sheeps clothing" to "socio-psychopathic pachinko ball" (IMO).
The more one identifies with some (set of) narrative(s), the less free will one has.
I really appreciate (whatever that means for someone/thing which has no free will?) this view as well, it feels (caveat, caveat...) like it helps me (caveat, caveat...) to parse and understand your (Glen's) many references to the distinctions between "episodic" and "narrative" on this forum.
As a proxy for Sopolsky, I can't directly acknowledge free will being on any spectrum since it is in fact (apparently (caveat, caveat...)?) an illusion? Did I mention "hard problem"?
As "modelers and simulators" many of us can perhaps relate "narrative(s)" to model(s) and notice our strategies for "model-fitting" and the risks of "over-fitting" and the opportunities (pitfalls) of meta-modeling?
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