Sorry, Jochen, just about everything you recommend will make things worse. I also wrote about the failure of the climate models almost ten years ago. You nailed one of the biggest problems, though: even really smart guys don't know shit about global warming.
On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 3:11 PM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: > I am not a big fan of Sabine. Her book "Lost in math" is too pessimistic > and too negative for me. She earns money from her YouTube video channel. > The more sensational the content, the more clicks. That being said I agree > that climate change is one of the biggest problems, and the outlook is not > good. > > If we don't act now temperatures will rise inevitably, and there is a real > possibility our economies will collapse. But if we prohibit all fossil > fuels now our economies will collapse too, because they depend on it. > Airplanes, ships, trucks, cars, heatings in our homes, plastic products,... > everything is based on fossil fuels. > > What our leaders do is take they planes and private jets to fly to climate > conferences and economic forums where they agree on lofty goals but when > they return it is business as usual. > > What we can do is voting for better politics - besides getting an emission > free car, using electric trains and public transport, switching to > sustainable energy, using less plastic, etc. Eventually it will also mean > less travelling by plane and cruise ships. This means no longer vacation in > exotic places - but imagine how much better the air in our cities would be > if the majority of cars are emission free. > > -J. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Russ Abbott <russ.abb...@gmail.com> > Date: 1/27/24 10:01 PM (GMT+01:00) > To: ICE - debora shuger <shu...@gmail.com>, Rob Watson < > rnwat...@humnet.ucla.edu>, Richard Abbott <richard.e.abb...@gmail.com>, > "Michael, Maria, and Luna Abbott-Whitley/Penado" <mabbottwhit...@gmail.com>, > Danielle Abbott-Whitley <dlw0...@gmail.com>, "Whitley, Julian" < > jln.whit...@gmail.com>, Dale Shuger <shuger02...@yahoo.com>, The Friday > Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > Subject: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climate > > I apologize for this relatively mass email. It was prompted by a video > <https://youtu.be/4S9sDyooxf4?si=_A767WzYTxriYGdl> by Sabine > Hossenfelder, Sabine is a theoretical physicist who has spent much of her > recent life as a popular science writer and video maker. See her Wikipedia > page <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Hossenfelder>. > > The video linked to above talks about climate models. The bottom line is > that it appears that most of the current models have underestimated how > quickly earth will warm. The consequences are frightening. > > -- Russ Abbott > Professor Emeritus, Computer Science > California State University, Los Angeles > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > -- Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. Center for Emergent Diplomacy emergentdiplomacy.org Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA mobile: (303) 859-5609
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