Sorry, a correction. I paid US$ 15 (not 150) for consuming 3,600 units. Sarbajit Roy
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 8:31 PM Sarbajit Roy <sroy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Bruno > > Smart meters were mandated in New Delhi India in 2008 onwards and we had > the same sort of consumer experience with bills shooting up due to these > then "made in China" meters and there was tremendous consumer anger. > > 2 important changes were made for domestic consumers - a) Billing would be > on the basis of Kw-hr (resistive) and not on the basis of KVA-hr > (reactive). and b) The neutral wiring and meter connection would be through > a bus-bar system only (no looping of neutrals) and ELCBs were > made mandatory for preventing earth leakages. That greatly sorted out the > problem. > > I believe the meter design was also changed to ensure that the Hall > sensors were inserted into the phase as well as neutral lines. > > Here are some links. > > https://www.derc.gov.in/sites/default/files/Public%20bulletin-5.pdf > > > https://www.derc.gov.in/sites/default/files/TechnicalspecificationforMeters_0.pdf > > https://www.derc.gov.in/sites/default/files/Draft-Regulations.pdf > (for Page 16 of 80) > > Just for your information, In the past 1 year I have paid a grand total of > about US$ 150 in electricity bills for an annual consumption of about 3,600 > Kw-Hr (3,600 units). > > Sarbajit Roy > > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 10:02 AM _ Bruno W <wbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm hoping some Friam member who knows a little about how an electric >> meter works will be interested >> enough to get this addressed BEFORE PNM spends $ 300+ million giving us >> all new meters. >> >> If interested I can send the full paper abstracted here: >> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8077940 >> There is also a thesis from the same group that gives more info.... >> >> The paper makes clear that one of the preferred technologies in electric >> meters (the Rogowski coil) >> can go haywire when nonlinear loads are present. The smart meters gave >> readings up to 500% higher >> than the actual usage. The meters PNM has proposed for its entire >> territory is the Itron "Gen5" Riva, >> which has been deployed in the last 2 years in Denver and parts of Texas. >> Sure enough, some customers' >> bill have gone way up (3 or 4-fold in one news report), and they have >> little recourse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpOhTXV59pI&t=20s >> >> I intervened in this PRC proceeding last year, and may be able to get >> this info onto the record, and try to >> get the PRC to require better testing on nonlinear loads. But I need >> someone with some relevant expertise >> (can be education or experience) to explain the published findings and >> their implications to the PRC in an affidavit by March. >> This person would then answer questions from the PRC and possibly PNM via >> zoom in a short hearing in late April or May. >> >> I have several reasons for not wanting to see PNM make this huge >> investment (and by law they are entitled to a nice >> rate of return paid by us, the customers) in a very messed-up technology. >> Probably most of us in this group >> don't sweat much about our electric bills (actually maybe if ours >> quadrupled, we would), but for low-income families, this is >> potentially very cruel, since the cost of the meters will be charged with >> interest regardless of usage, and energy-saving >> appliances typically have nonlinear load usages). >> >> I hope to be at the St. John's gathering Friday am, but feel free to >> reply or contact me directly if interested in this. >> >> >> --William J. Bruno, Ph.D. >> wbr...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: 5/2017 thru present >> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> >
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