You didn't say it was an average. You said that 19% of your quickplay connections (of which you receive 47% of your total connections daily) are retained as regular players. That means that daily, 8.93% of your connections become regular players (not including those that saw your network in the server list and just decided to join.) Unless that wasn't what you were saying at all, in which case 19% is a lot more insignificant.
On 1/24/14, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> wrote: > I don't think you understand what an average is. We retain *on average* > around 19% of Quickplay users. That's in total. In reality, we rely on > Quickplay just as much as many others do. We're just fortunate enough to > have a fairly large buffer of non-Quickplay players. > > > Dr. McKay > www.doctormckay.com > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Nerdboy <nerdb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I have a feeling your 10% daily growth in the past is going to plenty >> to keep you afloat in these hard times. >> >> On 1/24/14, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> wrote: >> > Except most of Quickplay has just been shut off from us. >> > >> > >> > Dr. McKay >> > www.doctormckay.com >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Nerdboy <nerdb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> Ok, but if you have ~50% quickplay traffic, and you're retaining ~20% >> >> of it, you should be set for a while. Just don't buy any more servers >> >> for a bit. >> >> >> >> On 1/24/14, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> wrote: >> >> > I log a bunch of stats about all players who connect to my >> >> > community. >> I >> >> > queried my database. >> >> > >> >> > This is the plugin to log stats: >> >> > https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=230832 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Dr. McKay >> >> > www.doctormckay.com >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Nerdboy <nerdb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Can you cite your source? >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1/24/14, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com> wrote: >> >> >> > In my experience, 19% of people who join via Quickplay come back. >> >> >> > That's >> >> >> > not an insignificant number. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Dr. McKay >> >> >> > www.doctormckay.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Gordon Reynolds < >> >> >> > thisisgordonsem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If your players were only in your servers because of quickplay, >> >> >> >> they >> >> >> >> probably do not care one iota about your Server (the entity that >> is >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> collection of your hardware, admins, regulars, plugins, etc), >> >> >> >> you >> >> were >> >> >> >> just >> >> >> >> some hallway that connected them from "not playing TF2" to >> "playing >> >> >> TF2". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> When their match is done and over, they hit disconnect, never >> >> >> >> add >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> favorites, and may never show back up again. You could see this >> >> >> >> as >> >> >> "Valve >> >> >> >> stealing your quickplay traffic" or you could see this as "Valve >> >> >> rounding >> >> >> >> up the people who mash PLAYNOW and have no interest in dedicated >> >> >> servers, >> >> >> >> or server communities". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> It's a changing demographic - people just want to play >> >> >> >> videogames, >> >> not >> >> >> >> really sign up for a whole 'favorite server loyalty program'. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> And who cares if our servers "die out"? What are we out? Ego? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Doctor McKay >> >> >> >> <mc...@doctormckay.com >> >> > >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > For lack of a better word, this is the last stand of community >> >> >> servers. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The smaller communities that depend on Quickplay to gain >> >> >> >> > popularity >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> > die out. We'll be left with nothing but the >> >> >> >> > already-large-and-established >> >> >> >> > server chains, like Lotus, Skial, Saigns, and NighTeam. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Dr. McKay >> >> >> >> > www.doctormckay.com >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Gordon Reynolds < >> >> >> >> > thisisgordonsem...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > I'm not sure this is that big of a deal. >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > I've yet to see a single sane suggestion on how they police >> bad >> >> >> >> > > servers >> >> >> >> > > other than "have people report them", which sounds like a >> >> >> >> > > bad >> >> idea >> >> >> >> > > for >> >> >> >> > many >> >> >> >> > > hopefully obvious reasons. >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > These are just video game servers; you aren't making money >> >> >> >> > > off >> >> >> >> > > them, >> >> >> >> > > if >> >> >> >> > > they sit empty you aren't losing money off them either [more >> >> >> >> > > than >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> > cost >> >> >> >> > > of running the server, which you're already doing]. And if >> >> >> >> > > you >> >> are >> >> >> >> > (making >> >> >> >> > > or losing money), then I would say Valve wants to put those >> >> >> >> > > kind >> >> >> >> > > of >> >> >> >> > servers >> >> >> >> > > out, as they generally fart up the experience with donation >> >> >> requests, >> >> >> >> or >> >> >> >> > > donor perks, annoying MOTDs, sound packs, or whatever else >> >> >> >> > > you >> >> >> >> > > crazy >> >> >> >> > > SourceMod kiddies do nowadays. >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > People here are acting as if this some last stand situation. >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Game-Over >> >> >> >> > > <gameover.serv...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> > > >wrote: >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > We've spoken before via Email and as an honest server >> >> >> >> > > > operator >> >> I >> >> >> >> > > > have >> >> >> >> > > > followed your directions via email to the letter. >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > So, Fletcher, please justify this ludicrous move you have >> now >> >> >> >> > > > made >> >> >> >> > > > to >> >> >> >> > > > Quickplay, after all of the support that we (us) genuine >> >> >> >> > > > server >> >> >> >> owners >> >> >> >> > > have >> >> >> >> > > > given you in the past years. >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > You chose this route rather than actually dealing with >> >> >> >> > > > corrupt >> >> >> >> > > > server >> >> >> >> > > > owners themselves, which we (on this mailing list) have >> asked >> >> >> >> > > > you >> >> >> >> > > > to >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> > > on >> >> >> >> > > > multiple occasions. >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > > Looking forward to your reply sir. >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> >> >> >> > > > list >> >> >> >> archives, >> >> >> >> > > > please visit: >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >> >> > > archives, >> >> >> >> > > please visit: >> >> >> >> > > >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >> >> > archives, >> >> >> >> > please visit: >> >> >> >> > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> archives, >> >> >> >> please visit: >> >> >> >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> >> > archives, >> >> >> > please visit: >> >> >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> >> >> please visit: >> >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> > archives, >> >> > please visit: >> >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >> please visit: >> >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
