I agree that they should revert the change, yet this does not affect me. I get all my traffic from the browser. :) the way things used to be.
Sincerely, Aaron On Feb 5, 2014 3:15 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote: > That is easy for you to say but absolutely unhelpful to server owners who > started with vanilla settings. They can change to non quickplay settings to > appeal to browser only players, but then they will alienate their current > players, losing all their seeders, AND they have to compete with your > established server to fight over the few server browsers looking for a new > server. > > We also have servers that were never on quickplay and they are seeing a > small but accelerating decrease of players. Why is this also harming > non-quickplay servers? Because new players are now being conditioned to > play on official Valve servers and they are never made aware that there are > non-quickplay type servers they would enjoy. > > This will eventually affect your non-quickplay server even if you don't > notice it yet. You will not see this reflected on your gametracker rank > because it affects all community servers. > > Bribe players with secret saxtoners to stay on your server as if we weren't > spending enough money on servers? Using your steam group? Do you know there > is a very small and invisible limit on the people you can invite now and > another limit that makes all non-friend invites silently fail? Isn't there > something wrong with the system when these gimmicks are the only way to get > players instead of letting community servers compete equally with official > servers? > > I am sorry but your suggestions don't help at all. Disabling community > quickplay must be reversed or a compromise must be made if Valve really > cares about the long term player experience instead of a sloppy fix for > players too lazy to use the browser and likely to not have paid Valve a > single dime. > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Martin V <velt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > "And my servers are in the top 50 on Gametracker." > > My server is in top20-15 and I don't see any player drops/decreasing. > > Probably because my server is 'banned' (or has really LOW priority > > in quickplay) from quickplay system for my tags: > > increased_maxplayers,nocrits,nodmgspread,respawntimes > > > > Maybe you should try not to depend on quickplay so much? Try expending > your > > community and put some life into servers. Make some events. Prizes for > > players etc. > > Try using your steam group to fill the server with loyal players. Throw > > some secret saxtoners like we do :) > > USE YOUR IMAGINATION AND ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! :D > > > > Try using this plugin: > > https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2060588 <-- it show you > > where your traffic is comming from (what connection method). > > > > > > 2014-02-05 Chris Oryschak <ch...@oryschak.com>: > > > > > ics, > > > > > > You're not the only one; i'm seeing the exact same trend on my servers. > > > Traffic is 50-58% decreased and I heavily rely on my community of 5 > yrs > > to > > > get the servers going come mid/late afternoon when they get home from > > > school & work. > > > > > > If it wasn't for having my community built up for so long my servers > > would > > > be on the brink of death, give it a few months and without being able > to > > > attract more players to replenish the community base i can see my > servers > > > dwindling down to nothing. > > > > > > And my servers are in the top 50 on Gametracker. > > > > > > Fletcher - Can you chime in on this, it would be really nice to get a > > Valve > > > response on the mailing list instead of having to rely on 3rd party > > sources > > > of email exchanges. I know why Valve has done what they have done but > it > > > would be really nice to get some feedback and/or maybe collectively > come > > up > > > with some solutions that favor both the community servers and valves > > strict > > > 'vanilla' experience. > > > > > > We (community operators) would just like to regain some comfort knowing > > > this isn't the death of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:53 PM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Some time has now passed since Valve defaulted quickplay to Valve > > servers > > > > only on TF2 and we are taking the hit. Roughly half of our servers it > > now > > > > empty. Changes daily which servers have players and which have not so > > > it's > > > > not really a lack of people not knowing them are there but lack of > > > players > > > > one and nobody enters. They switch to fuller servers and since there > > > isn't > > > > much new players entering automatically and regulars are hesitant to > > > enter > > > > empty ones, this is where we are. > > > > > > > > So after running servers for TF2 since the game came out, this is > what > > i > > > > get, go away message? You don't want me to run servers anylonger? I > > don't > > > > run crap on servers or advertisements or any mods, except for > > > > administration between servers. Thanks a lot, Valve. > > > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
