Ofcourse MvM is full. Does valve even have official boot camp servers? Probably not.
I just changed an empty PvP player to MvM for fun and it got full immediately. The biggest reasons why there's a lack of community MvM servers are: You can't make a community around it. It takes up the same amount of resources as a real server yet only hosts 6 players max. You can't even put ads on them, nor can you use it advertise your PvP servers as both HTML motds and press F3 to join another server are disabled. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Erik-jan Riemers <riem...@binkey.nl> wrote: > In my eyes, custom servers are still something i can manage since people > search for that. All quickplay servers are on my list of "to be removed" we > used to have say 6 to 8 players that would join a server (regulars) and > then quickplay would kick in and send some clients to it. When its above > 10-15 the "i only come when its full regulars" will be coming too. > > Now it just sits there around 6 to 8 players, people try to fill it up but > nobody comes (an hour passes, still nothing) imho, tf2 vanilla servers > offered by community = dead. > > The funny part is that mvm is actually still pretty full here.. > > > 2014-02-05 Aaron Thompson <rmesc...@gmail.com>: > > > I agree that they should revert the change, yet this does not affect me. > I > > get all my traffic from the browser. :) the way things used to be. > > > > Sincerely, > > Aaron > > On Feb 5, 2014 3:15 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > That is easy for you to say but absolutely unhelpful to server owners > who > > > started with vanilla settings. They can change to non quickplay > settings > > to > > > appeal to browser only players, but then they will alienate their > current > > > players, losing all their seeders, AND they have to compete with your > > > established server to fight over the few server browsers looking for a > > new > > > server. > > > > > > We also have servers that were never on quickplay and they are seeing a > > > small but accelerating decrease of players. Why is this also harming > > > non-quickplay servers? Because new players are now being conditioned to > > > play on official Valve servers and they are never made aware that there > > are > > > non-quickplay type servers they would enjoy. > > > > > > This will eventually affect your non-quickplay server even if you don't > > > notice it yet. You will not see this reflected on your gametracker rank > > > because it affects all community servers. > > > > > > Bribe players with secret saxtoners to stay on your server as if we > > weren't > > > spending enough money on servers? Using your steam group? Do you know > > there > > > is a very small and invisible limit on the people you can invite now > and > > > another limit that makes all non-friend invites silently fail? Isn't > > there > > > something wrong with the system when these gimmicks are the only way to > > get > > > players instead of letting community servers compete equally with > > official > > > servers? > > > > > > I am sorry but your suggestions don't help at all. Disabling community > > > quickplay must be reversed or a compromise must be made if Valve really > > > cares about the long term player experience instead of a sloppy fix for > > > players too lazy to use the browser and likely to not have paid Valve a > > > single dime. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Martin V <velt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "And my servers are in the top 50 on Gametracker." > > > > My server is in top20-15 and I don't see any player drops/decreasing. > > > > Probably because my server is 'banned' (or has really LOW priority > > > > in quickplay) from quickplay system for my tags: > > > > increased_maxplayers,nocrits,nodmgspread,respawntimes > > > > > > > > Maybe you should try not to depend on quickplay so much? Try > expending > > > your > > > > community and put some life into servers. Make some events. Prizes > for > > > > players etc. > > > > Try using your steam group to fill the server with loyal players. > Throw > > > > some secret saxtoners like we do :) > > > > USE YOUR IMAGINATION AND ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE! :D > > > > > > > > Try using this plugin: > > > > https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=2060588 <-- it show > you > > > > where your traffic is comming from (what connection method). > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-02-05 Chris Oryschak <ch...@oryschak.com>: > > > > > > > > > ics, > > > > > > > > > > You're not the only one; i'm seeing the exact same trend on my > > servers. > > > > > Traffic is 50-58% decreased and I heavily rely on my community of > 5 > > > yrs > > > > to > > > > > get the servers going come mid/late afternoon when they get home > from > > > > > school & work. > > > > > > > > > > If it wasn't for having my community built up for so long my > servers > > > > would > > > > > be on the brink of death, give it a few months and without being > able > > > to > > > > > attract more players to replenish the community base i can see my > > > servers > > > > > dwindling down to nothing. > > > > > > > > > > And my servers are in the top 50 on Gametracker. > > > > > > > > > > Fletcher - Can you chime in on this, it would be really nice to > get a > > > > Valve > > > > > response on the mailing list instead of having to rely on 3rd party > > > > sources > > > > > of email exchanges. I know why Valve has done what they have done > > but > > > it > > > > > would be really nice to get some feedback and/or maybe collectively > > > come > > > > up > > > > > with some solutions that favor both the community servers and > valves > > > > strict > > > > > 'vanilla' experience. > > > > > > > > > > We (community operators) would just like to regain some comfort > > knowing > > > > > this isn't the death of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:53 PM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some time has now passed since Valve defaulted quickplay to Valve > > > > servers > > > > > > only on TF2 and we are taking the hit. Roughly half of our > servers > > it > > > > now > > > > > > empty. Changes daily which servers have players and which have > not > > so > > > > > it's > > > > > > not really a lack of people not knowing them are there but lack > of > > > > > players > > > > > > one and nobody enters. They switch to fuller servers and since > > there > > > > > isn't > > > > > > much new players entering automatically and regulars are hesitant > > to > > > > > enter > > > > > > empty ones, this is where we are. > > > > > > > > > > > > So after running servers for TF2 since the game came out, this is > > > what > > > > i > > > > > > get, go away message? You don't want me to run servers > anylonger? I > > > > don't > > > > > > run crap on servers or advertisements or any mods, except for > > > > > > administration between servers. Thanks a lot, Valve. > > > > > > > > > > > > -ics > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
