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>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Florian Klaempfl wrote:
>
>>Lv wrote:
>>
>>
>>>So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave
users like
>>>me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical
>>>papers as my software of choice?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea
to change the
>>name. I don't think either that the "board of directors" of
lazarus (Michael H.,
>> Matthias, Marc, Vincents, Micha et al.) consider a name change :)
>>
>>
>Just for the record, I also think a name change is uncalled for. A
name
>change would have serious consequences - and we could start promoting
>everything from zero since the new name will be even less known then
>Lazarus. The word Lazarus is neither offensive or more ambiguous than
>other well known projects and companies.
>
>One more comment: Cheetah is the simbol of FPC, not lazarus. A
cheetah
>on a column is Lazarus. Now you don't see anyone calling FPC cheetah,
>nor calling Linux Pinguin.
I agree with Andreas (and thank the "board of directors" and their
fine insight in dismissing this idea as being a total waste of time
and effort)
Which "fine insight"? Calling it a "stupid idea" is a "fine
insight"? ;-)
The drawbacks from a name change are phenomenal!!!
Even without the "!!!", it would be exaggerated.
1) Loss of current user base who don't keep up on the mailing
list and all of sudden can't find their product under the name they
know (and hopefully love)
What is your estimate of the average IQ of a current user? :-)
2) Loss of new user base. I have actively promoted Lazarus,
whenever asked, as a great tool/environment with my contacts. Don't
know how many have looked at it yet, but I'm going to be very
embarrassed if they do finally take my advice and check it out, and
it's called something different than what I was advertising.
That's the contrary, there will be more new users more quickly
(assuming the new name is good). Moreover, why all that panic around
a simple change of name. That's a current practice. Many software
editors make use of temporary names for the beta versions of their
softwares.
3) I suspect would require a lot of effort in renaming all sorts
of directories/web sites/links, blah blah blah on a global basis
Yes, and this is the only valuable reason. A change of name could
lead to too much work in rewriting for the Lazarus team. This is a
problem because the possibility of a renaming has not been taken in
account when starting the project.
4) Same as #3 above on each existing users's personal computer(s)
Renaming once for all a few directories is not a problem.
All this for some "cosmetics"?
"Cosmetic"!? Some people are paid fortunes just to search for (and to
find) the name of a new product. Are you saying that companies who pay
them are wasting their money?
> Much better that we quit talking
about this and get back to making a really great product that will
really "sell" itself based on it's stability and functionality, not
on whether it is called S__T or Lazarus.
Just my two cents. Let's get back to work making Lazarus GREAT!!!!!
Yes, and a change of name would be good in order to do that. Btw, why
do you present things as if we have to choose between either a good name
or a good quality. Asking for both of them, that's not possible?
I agree that if a software is useful and of good quality, good name or
bad name, it will be used. A bad name cannot kill a good software. But a
good name can help it. And "Lazarus" is indeed very bad. What does this
name suggest? Bringing back a death to the life. The first thing it
leads to think of is the death. This is totally negative. "Lazarus"
might be an appropriate name for a game where you have to destroy lots
of death-alive ones in catacombs but there we are talking about a Pascal
programming tool.
Note that I don't say that naming the software "Lazarus" was a "stupid
idea", no, I try to explain why I think it was a bad idea. "Stupid idea"
is not an explanation, it is at most a peremptory judgement. Personally,
and very frankly, I don't care whether the Lazarus team decides to
change the name or not. Now, I know and use Lazarus. For me its name has
no more importance, I know what is behind it. But this is not the case
for those who don't know it yet.
mm
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