On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 2:54:13 PM UTC-5 offray wrote: Regarding the gap between static text and dynamic data, its explorers and possible bridges, I think that the Smalltalk tradition makes a good case for writing dynamic data instead of static text.
Even in Pharo there is a distinction between the existing (static!) program and the dynamic data on which it acts. [1] https://pharo.org/ [2] https://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/en.html [3] https://gtoolkit.com/ [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ab3ArE8W3s I'm unconvinced by these links. The video "Stop writing dead programs" is condescending, even insulting. Modern software includes the Mars lander and rover, avionics for commercial airliners, large cad-based engineering systems, browsers and their graphics engines, IDEs such as vs-code, and AI software, such as the software for robots made by Boston Dynamics. The video (and others like it) implies that hundreds of thousands of engineers and scientists don't know what they are doing. Maybe some of these projects use lisp, etc., but the rationales for doing so had nothing to do with cute demos. Let's move on. Pharo is a clever system. The main idea seems to be that an app and its development environment can be the same. Alas, there are many negatives. Python is my dream language. I'm only interested in improving it. Otoh, it's good to consider how we can improve our programming practice. The Pharo videos stimulated those ideas. For example, I'd like to make it easier to create unit tests. I didn't write such tests for recent spelling-related PRs. That seems like a mistake. An hour noodling about how to make unit tests for gui code may have had a big payoff. I'm going to take another look. *Summary* I'm not interested in Pharo, but nobody needs my permission to use a platform they love. Thinking about Pharo has encouraged me to think about making Leo's development less cumbersome. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/leo-editor/65762cea-6f99-4480-8620-955fce13435dn%40googlegroups.com.
