Roman and Mathias, I am only aware of two major religions in the world that have a monastic order, the question is simple ... who came first? Or was it spontaneous combustion? Michael Thames www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathias Rösel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lutelist" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:50 AM Subject: Re: LUTE-etymology
> "Roman Turovsky" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> brought back with him the Buddhist traditions of a monastatic order > and compassion, which took hold centuries later in Christendom. > > > I do not recall the Redeemer advocating monasticism, but Mathias will surely clarify the issue. > > not exactly lute-related, isn't it. Buddhist monks and nuns are > generally supposed to live in celibacy and stay away from drinking > alcohol and from eating meat, to name the most obvious rules. None of > these traits belongs to Jewish life. So, it doesn't come as a surprise > that according to the witness of the Gospels Jesus of Nazareth, as a > Jew, neither lived as a monk nor demanded that his disciples live as > monks or nuns. > > >> I challenge anyone to find a monastatic order, anywhere in the world > other than in > >> Buddhist India 500 year before the appearance of Christ. > > > Some argue that Essenes were kind of monastic.... > > according to their scriptures, the people of Qumran (and Damascus, where > their headquarter was) lived in an order. But they did certainly not > live as monks, in the sense of Buddhist monks, since they were Jewish. > Most of them were married, every Shabbat there is a cup of wine to be > drunken after service (Kiddush) and for Purim adults are even commanded > to get drunk until they cannot tell a certain blessing from another, and > at least once a year there is meat of sheep on the table, i. e. for > Pessach (Easter). > > Best, > > Mathias > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
