On May 18, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tom C wrote:

Makes Pentax sound wonderful by comparison.  But surely the problem
was not limited to Jeffrey's camera, so there's somewhat of a
disconnect for me. Wouldn't just about every (or certainly many) Leica
owner(s) that paid $6K for their tool be up in arms?


Many M8 owners were up in arms. A pro shooter friend of mine who had used Leica film cameras for years bought an M8. He struggled with it for a few months, then sold it. Apparently, the M9 is a much better camera, but Leica definitely damaged its reputation with the M8.
Paul

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Jeffery,
Well thats a word or two to the wise...
Saves me a lot of money.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith...@gmail.com> wrote:
I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a "no memory card" error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem.

Pro photographers and photographers wealthy enough to afford an attorney get good service from Leica USA. Grunts like myself (a teacher) aren't given the time of day. I have refrained from mentioning my problems on the LUG except when a pro photographer posts a message saying that Leica customer service is absolutely the best. I then mention the problems I had and get my ass flamed as a heretic. I finally unsubscribed from the LUG as it became less and less a forum about photography. The die hard photojournalist types on the LUG now post incessant photos of their dog, their flowers, or buildings.

Leica film rangefinders are great, and reliable. Leica doesn't seem to know anything whatsoever about digital cameras. If you want a digital camera with a Leica lens, buy a Panasonic! They are great! If you can live with only wide angle to normal lenses, the GF1 is a wonderful little camera.

Jeffery



On May 18, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I worked with Leica RF cameras on and off from 1969 to 2002. I'd enjoy
an M4-P again, but I  know I'd never work with film enough again to
warrant the expense. I'd enjoy an M8 or M9 now.

Have fun with it. Although it's expensive, it's just a camera ... a
darn good one with a great lens.

--
Godfrey
 godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

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