Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant
-Caveat Lector- Maybe the government really did find it, and that's what they are calling the "HAARP" ??? h? eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "earthman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant -Caveat Lector- I think the term Arc comes from Arktos..that is the Northern Pole star..Around it is the Great Bear and the little bear. Both SEven star system and a reflection of each other.. The swastika is a representation of this albeit an opposite.. So the ARC therefore must be at the pole to have full powerhehe.. Peter We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift - Original Message - From: Stopforth, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant -Caveat Lector- Uh huh... -Original Message- From: C Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 7:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant -Caveat Lector- It mattersits a way to communicate with the gods or God. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant
-Caveat Lector- Oh, and I thought that the Smithsonian had it, just like they told it in the story of the "Raider's of the Lost Ark"... and I thought that EVERYONE knew that!:-) LOL eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Tatman, Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant -Caveat Lector- Why, everyone KNOWS that the Nazis discovered the Ark of the Covenant and hid it in a mineshaft in Bavaria along with the Spear of Longinus and Hitler's foreskin. These treasures were subsequently recovered by a special U.S. Army unit following the German surrender, and they are now held in a tightly guarded warehouse of the National Archives in Arlington, Virginia... -Original Message- From: Nurev Ind Research [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 10:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant -Caveat Lector- David Rupp wrote: -Caveat Lector- Someone just sent this link to another list that I read: http://www.fine-art.com/Steadman/ark.txt It seems that the Ark has been located and it's in the hands of the Israeli government. I'm sure that most of us can rest easy now, and JAH can find a new crusade. Good luck! David Rupp Get caught up in The Web of Fate at http://pages.whowhere.com/arts/david.rupp/home.html. I beg to differ. It is not in the hands of the Israelis. It is in a wooden box in a HUGE government warehouse somewhere in the USA. Joshua2 ;} DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Posts to alt.conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Posts to alt.conspiracy Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 1:08 PM Thank you for the messages you posted to alt.conspiracy. This is extremely valuable information, and greatly appreciated ! Martin F. Abernathy 11/21/99Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Copiers used to Track us? Maybe!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/22/1999 3:57:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The answer from a Xerox repair technician is, "I don't know if that is being done but with a digital color copy machine, IT IS POSSIBLE." Also, you can't make a copy in Kinkos without being caught live on video tape. There is literally a camera on every single copying machine, work desk, sales counter, computer station DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] raiders of the lost city
-Caveat Lector- Sunday Times- London November 21 1999 BRITAIN Dead Sea sub dives for lost city of Sodom Jonathan Leake, Science Editor SODOM, the biblical world's most sinful city, is about to get its first visitor since Lot left in haste as it was destroyed by heavenly fire 4,000 years ago. A British researcher will this week venture to the bottom of the Dead Sea - where Sodom's remains are thought to lie - in a mini-submarine. Michael Sanders, a Leeds-born biblical scholar, has found what appears to be the remains of the city under the surface of the Dead Sea by studying satellite pictures taken by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (Nasa). His findings have been backed by the Dead Sea research unit from Tel Aviv University, whose scholars are on site with him. "We are about to embark on our first dive. Finding the biblical city of Sodom would be the greatest achievement of my life," he said last week. The dives come just as the British Museum prepares to announce the results of its research in the area, which appears to confirm that Sodom was located there. A team excavating a Byzantine church has found what is thought to be the legendary Cave of Lot hidden behind it. According to the Bible, Lot and his daughters took refuge in a cave while Sodom lay smouldering. It was there, thinking they were the last people on Earth, that they decided to start a new generation. To most people, including archeologists, the biblical story of Lot, Sodom and Gomorrah is metaphorical, a warning to sinful humans from the authors of Genesis. No satisfactory archeological evidence of the five lost cities of the plain, of which Sodom and Gomorrah were two, has ever been unearthed. Other scholars, however, including Sanders, believe Sodom and Gomorrah not only existed but that they were also probably destroyed in a catastrophe about 5,000 years ago and that their ruins were engulfed beneath the salty waters of the Dead Sea. Sanders's findings are supported by Dr John Whitaker, a geologist at the University of Leicester, who has found strong evidence of a powerful earthquake in the area at that time. He said in a research paper: "Their remains have not been found because they are now under water. The total disappearance of the Vale of Siddim and its cities beneath the lake would explain the lack of archeological evidence. Further underwater exploration could be revealing." Sanders believes the remains of the ancient cities are to be found off the northwest shore of the Dead Sea, about 10 miles south of Jericho. The orange Delta mini-submarine, on hire at a cost of almost £5,000 a day, was the one used to explore the wreck of the Lusitania. The 10ft-long, 6ft-high vessel was flown into Israel from California last weekend. It holds two people and can stay submerged under hundreds of feet of water for up to three days, but the team will be making only short dives. Sanders watched on Friday as the vessel was winched aboard a barge at the Ein Gedi oasis in preparation for its journey to the northern shore. The Dead Sea may be only about 200 metres deep, but Sanders is diving into murky diplomatic waters. The northwest corner of the sea is in the West Bank, which was ruled by Jordan until the six-day war in 1967 and has been under Israeli military occupation ever since. Now the Palestinians have claimed it for their nascent independent state. The expedition therefore had to be cleared with the Israeli army, the Jordanians and the Palestinians - and if Sanders does find anything down there, there will be a diplomatic battle over ownership. Not everyone is as convinced as Sanders, however. Dr David Neev, a respected Israeli geologist, has dedicated much of his life to the scientific study of the Dead Sea and its surroundings. He rejects Sanders's thesis that Sodom and Gomorrah are lying at the bottom of the northern end of the Dead Sea. "The Bible is not always reliable in its chronology, but its geographical descriptions have always turned out to be perfect. According to the Bible the towns of Sodom and Gomorrah were located at the south end of the Dead Sea, next to Mount Sedom and a long way from Sanders's site," said Neev DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Now for ANC Maths
-Caveat Lector- 9. MATHS, SCIENCE `STILL EXCLUSIVE': PRETORIA NEWS, 19991118, P.6 - Mathematics and science education still remain in the exclusive preserve of the historically advantaged, Deputy Education Minister Smangaliso Mkhatshwa said yesterday. He was speaking at a function of the Foundation of Education, Science and Technology (Fest) in the city. He added that the field of science in SA was facing a crisis. "The situation is exacerbated by the perceived neutrality of these fields. The common perception is that these fields of inquiry are not related to the political and socio-economic context," Fr Mkhatshwa said. "This is a challenge that any attempt to promoting and understanding culture, science and technology must overcome. One way of promoting the goals of African Renaissance is to make indigenous experiences and knowledge part of parcel of our new curricula and learning materials." --- New maths. Power + ANC+ Previously disadvantaged= corruption + Hatred previously advantaged Is this an irreversible reaction. Discuss DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] PROJECT MEGIDDO
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/5.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [endsecrecy] NSA/ATT
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Remy C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: endsecrecy list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [endsecrecy] NSA/ATT Date: Saturday, November 20, 1999 1:11 AM NSA Patents New Technology To Monitor Millions Of Phones Calls By Suelette Dreyfus http://www.independent.co.uk/news/Digital/Features/spies151199.shtml 11-17-99 Found on: http://www.sightings.com/politics5/nsapatent_p.htm The US National Security Agency has designed and patented a new technology that could aid it in spying on international telephone calls. The NSA patent, granted on 10 August, is for a system of automatic topic spotting and labelling of data. The patent officially confirms for the first time that the NSA has been working on ways of automatically analysing human speech. The NSA's invention is intended automatically to sift through human speech transcripts in any language. The patent document specifically mentions "machine-transcribed speech" as a potential source. Bruce Schneier, author of Applied Cryptography, a textbook on the science of keeping information secret, believes the NSA currently has the ability to use computers to transcribe voice conversations. "One of the holy grails of the NSA is the ability automatically to search through voice traffic. They would have expended considerable effort on this capability, and this indicates it has been fruitful," he said. To date, it has been widely believed that while the NSA has the capability to conduct fully automated, mass electronic eavesdropping on e-mail, faxes and other written communications, it cannot do so on telephone calls. While cautioning that it was difficult to tell how well the ideas in the patent worked in practice, Schneier said the technology could have far-reaching effects on the privacy of international phone calls. "If it works well, the technology makes it possible for the NSA to harvest millions of telephone calls, looking for certain types of conversations," he said. "It's easy to eavesdrop on any single phone call, but sifting through millions of phone calls looking for a particular conversation is difficult," Schneier explained. "In terms of automatic surveillance, text is easier to search than speech. This patent brings the surveillance of speech closer to that of text." The NSA declined to comment on the patent. As a general policy, the agency never comments on its intelligence activities. Yaman Akdeniz, director of Cyber-Rights Cyber-Liberties UK, warned that with the new patentand a proposed ATT and BT joint venture, which will allow US law enforcement agencies to tap the new communications network: "We might have a picture in which all British communications are monitored by the NSA." The revelation of the NSA's patent is likely to cause tensions with the European Parliament. Over the past two years, the Parliament has commissioned several reports which examined whether the NSA has been using its electronic ears for commercial espionage, particularly in areas where US corporations compete with European and other companies. The NSA relies on an international web of eavesdropping stations around the world, commonly known as Echelon, to listen into private international communications. The network emerged from a secret agreement signed after the Second World War between five nations including Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Britain and the US. Two of the NSA's most important satellite listening stations are located in Europe, at Menwith Hill in Yorkshire and Bad Aibling in Germany. Julian Assange, a cryptographer who moderates the online Australian discussion forum AUCRYPTO, found the new patent while investigating NSA capabilities. "This patent should worry people. Everyone's overseas phone calls are or may soon be tapped, transcribed and archived in the bowels of an unaccountable foreign spy agency," he said. One of the major barriers to using computers automatically to sift through voice communications on a large scale has been the inability of machines to "think" like humans when analysing the often imperfect computer transcriptions of voice conversations. Commercial software that enables computers to transcribe spoken words into typed text is already on the market, but it usually requires the machine to spend time learning how to understand an individual voice in order to produce relatively error-free text. This makes such software impractical for a spy agency which might want automatically to transcribe and analyse telephone calls on a large scale. It is also difficult for computers to analyse voice conversations because human speech often covers topics that are never actually spoken by name. According to the NSA patent application, "much of the information conveyed in speech is never actually spoken and... utterances are frequently less coherent than written language". US Patent number
[CTRL] sinkhole in Arizona
-Caveat Lector- Seems mighty interesting.. Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Folks, There have been some intriguing posts from other lists to which I belong concerning the earthquakes in Turkey and alledged correlations i.e. a sinkhole in Arizona that keeps getting big with each California quake and also a report (have written for the source, but it may be in a foreign language)indicating a correspondence of faults. plates--was wondering if anyone else had heard about any of this. From one post (this is the one that I have written for the source--post is from Turkey): ".what the authorities say is the northern Anatolian fault is connecting with the fault in San Adrea fault in California in somehow! So also they noticed that they didn't expect 2 big quakes in very near time (3 months) also in very close km. So they are saying it is a beginning for a new formation about continents..Quake fault begin to crash from Turkey line...so it will crush towards west and lastly in America. Quake in Turkey will highlight many secret points in coming days." Post about sinkhole: There is a sinkhole in Sedona, Arisona (USA) which gets a little deeper every time there is an earthquake in Los Angeles, some 500 miles from there... Something usually happens within a week. That's what the people have noticed. I imagine that if you deal with an area with many fault lines, there could be some domino effect. Laurel We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] The Committee of 300 is a fairy tale
From: "JP Viken" [EMAIL PROTECTED] from: jpviken When you control the system you can use black covert arts to create an enemy, stilulate that enemy to fight you and then use that battle to set up and elicit the attainment on your goals (e.g. repeated "burning of the Reichstags--the social/mass construction of dissent to manufacture mass consent. Its the oldest trick in the book of "black, deep cover, covert arts"---a king once said, if your power is waning, have some of your warriors dress up like a potential enemy and attack your people; this will consolidate your power and stimulate a powerful supportive war consensus in your kingdom! The internet was started by darpa (defense advanced research projects and all internet domain name titling is now through saic (who specialized in remote viewing targeting cons during the desert storm irag war ops). The internet is one of the greatest spy ops ever conceived by the nsa dia, even though it now helps us spread useful information in our feeble attempt to preserve our sovereign republic. Ultimately we are doing exactly what we are supposed to do. Even the harassment we are subject to is "just setting the hook deeper" to motivate us to do their manufacturing of this controlled dissent so they can manufacture their consent. Pretty slick as far as sources and methods, hugh? - Original Message - From: David Kocot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] "The Committee of 300" is a fairy tale From: "David Kocot" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have two questions regarding this "Committee of 300" stuff: 1) are there seperate factions within the committee who compete against each other in the quest for more power? As a student of history, I notice that no matter how much wealth or power someone has, they always crave more, and that no balance of power withstands more than a few decades (if that much) - one side always either overpowers the other or a third party unseats both. 2) Why would any such organization allow the internet to exist, which allows this information to spread freely all around the world? Don't they want to keep a lid on themselves to prevent discontent amongst we the sheeple? David Kocot -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 2:35 AM Subject: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] "The Committee of 300" is a fairy tale From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian: We are all entitled to our own opinions, and I agree with you that the Bilderbergers SKULL AND BONES groups ARE very real threats, but so is the Committee of 300. It does exist... and Richmond Odom was right when he tied it in his thinking to China, Kosovo, KLA, etc. and the drugs, etc. There's too much evidence out there surrounding the "300" and it's power for it not to be 'real', even if it may be a "fairy tale" in your mind. We are going to see a lot more "action" from Russia China in the upcoming year as well. And it's not going to be very "nice"... - Tanina Subj:[CIA-DRUGS] "The Committee of 300" is a fairy tale Date: 11/22/1999 1:12:33 AM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Downing Quig) Again the Committee of 300 is a fairy tale. Do not take your eyes off the Bilderbergers or in the UNITED STATES the SKULL AND BONES. Brian Linda Minor wrote: From: "Linda Minor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave wrote: The IMF held a meeting in Hong Kong a few years ago which was attended by a colleague of mine and he told me the seminar dealt with this very question. He informed me that the IMF agents told the meeting that they could literally cause a run on any country's currency, using narco-dollars, which would precipitate a flight of capital. Rainer-Gut, a Credit Suisse delegate and member of the Committee of 300, said he foresaw a situation where national credit and national financing would be under one umbrella organization by the turn of the century. While Rainer-Gut did not spell it out, everybody at the seminar knew exactly what he was talking about. == It's coincidences like this that convince me that God is helping us out here. Yesterday I posted an excerpt from Philip Melanson's book on the King assassination, which included the following: Galt's background: He worked for Union Carbide of Canada Ltd. in Toronto beginning in the early 1950's and was still with them in 1968. Since the early 60s he was working in a dept. at Union Carbide working on a super secret project called the proximity fuse for use in anti-aircraft shells. Then I went into the SEC archives to see if I recognized any of the directors of Union Carbide U.S. corporation. The only name known to me was the ubiquitous Vernon Jordan, Jr. So I dropped it. After reading what Dave posted, I thought
Re: [CTRL] The City
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Book Search Co-ordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Elena Gallmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The "City" Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:15 PM Thanks for the post...your praise was much appreciated. However, I often difer with theorists who, in my view, make too much of the Queen deferring to the Lord Mayor. The ceremonies by which the Queen enters the City, though showing a unique deference to the Lord Mayor also show unique deference to the Queen. After all, regarding the Lord Mayor, from their site: http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/ One of the most colourful and ancient of London traditions, the Lord Mayor's Show can be traced back to 1215 and the charter King John granted the City to elect its own Mayor. A requirement of the charter was that the Lord Mayor should present himself to the Law Courts for approval and to swear loyalty to the monarch. Over the years the procession grew into a highlight of London's ceremonial year. For many years, until 1856 the procession would include making part of the journey by barge along the Thames. Now the Show winds its way through the streets of the City. The Lord Mayor travels in the ceremonial gold coach which was constructed in 1757 at a cost of £1,065. Until 1711, when Mayor Sir Gilbert Heathcote was unsaddled by a drunken flower girl, the Lord Mayor used to ride on horseback. Behind him stretches a colourful procession of marching bands, livery companies, floats, and people in colourful costumes. Past Show attractions have included "a lyon and a cammel" in 1602 and, in 1619, an artificial cock crowing and flapping his wings in the procession of Mayor William Cockayne. Modern Shows now reflect the theme chosen by each Lord Mayor for his year in office but are just as spectacular as their historic predecessors. Despite its long history, there have been very few occasions over the centuries when the Lord Mayor's Show has not been held. Make sure you don't miss the Show - visit the Lord Mayor's Show site for up to date details of this historic event which will be held next on 11 November 2000. -Original Message- From: Mark Elena Gallmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 8:58 PM Subject: The "City" Dear Mr Miller, I came across your website after reading your old circa 1985 Project on the BibleBelievers in Australia website. So I've subscribed. I've read your bi-polar view, which in my opinion is the most reasonable I've seen. I wasn't prepared to find such instant confirmation on the internet itself. I've since looked up The City's (City of London, a/k/a London Corporation) website. Not only does the "Queen" defer to the "Lord Mayor" there but I also learned that: 1. The City's police force is separate from Metropolitan London's and always has been. 2. Local politics in The City are conducted on a non-partisan basis. Neither Labor or Conservative parties are active there. That makes complete sense. No one allows their servants to rule them. 3. The City has its own criminal court. 4. The City has posted pictures on its internet site of eco-rioters its police are hunting from a demonstration last June 18. There's dozens of them. 5. The City (Corporation of London) has purchased and conserved, outside of its own boundaries, the hunting lodge of Elizabeth I. Somewhat out of the normal behavior for something that is nominally only a local govenment. Why shouldn't the national government conserve a monarch's hunting lodge? 6. The City's own statistics show that it far exceeds New York in every financial category except stock market capitalization. So The City has its own geographic sovereignty that is only a bit less veiled than The Vatican's. Veiled enough to fool the sheeple. But for the "Kings" of the earth, who all traffic in their own political symbolism, the symbolism and the underlying reality of power is clear. Especially when they come (are summoned) to visit. The City even has its own extraterritorial citizenship in the form of "The Freedom of the City". And, lest anyone forget, The City was the target of 80% of the Luftwaffe's Blitz attacks and also the aiming point of the V1-V2 campaign in 1944. Yours Truly, Mark A. Gallmeier Port Charlotte, FLForwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales,
[CTRL] JFK ASSASSINATED 36 YEARS AGO TODAY! EO 11110
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- Date sent: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:16:35 -0800 From: APFN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: APFN http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb77532 To: APFN ONELIST [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: JFK ASSASSINATED 36 YEARS AGO TODAY! EO 0 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JFK ASSASSINATED 36 YEARS AGO TODAY! Story in Las Vegas Review Journel Nov. 22, 1999 [snip] Hours after President Kennedy was assassinated, FBI agents listened to a tape of a phone call that a man identifying himself as "Lee Oswald" had placed to the Soviet embassy in Mexico City. They made a startling discovery; The voice on the tape was not Oswald's. government records said. Now, 36 years to the day after the murder, more light is being shed about the Oswald impersonator. [snip] Tape: Call on JFK Wasn't Oswald http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991121/pl/jfk_assassination_2.html Excerpts From JFK Documents http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19991121/pl/jfk_assassination_memos_1.html SEARCH LEE HARVEY OSWALD http://www.mamma.com/Mamma?lang=1timeout=4qtype=0query=Lee+Harvey+OswaldSubmit=Find+It%21 President Kennedy, the Federal Reserve and Executive Order 0 by Cedric X. (From The Final Call, Vol15, No.6, on January 17, 1996 (USA)) On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 0 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous. With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 0 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 0 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver. After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 0 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 0 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment. As America's debt reaches unbearable levels and a conflict emerges in Bosnia that will further increase America's debt, one is force to ask, will President Clinton have the courage to consider utilizing Executive Order 0 and, if so, is he willing to pay the ultimate price for doing so? Executive Order 11,110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows: Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended- a. By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): (j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to
Re: [CTRL] The Ark of the Covenant
-Caveat Lector- On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Eagle 1 wrote: Oh, and I thought that the Smithsonian had it, just like they told it in the story of the "Raider's of the Lost Ark"... and I thought that EVERYONE knew that!:-) I thought that Raiders showed it filed away in some vast Army warehouse, amongst hundreds of thousands other forgotten itemsthat was the last shot in the movie... But everyone who is 'in the know' knows that the Nazis spirited it away to a secret base in Antartica just before the end of WWII June ;-) *===* If we listened to our intellect, we'd never have a love affair. We'd never have a friendship. We'd never go into business, because we'd be cynical. Well, that's nonsense. You've got to jump off cliffs all the time and build your wings on the way down. ---Ray Bradbury *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK ASSASSINATED 36 YEARS AGO TODAY! EO 11110
-Caveat Lector- From: Pep Stofen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TO TELL THE TRUTH TO TELL THE TRUTH! It was the year of 1694, King William III, granted to Mr. Pearson, permission to establish the Bank of England. With power to issue money against the Credit of the English peopleThe bank then loaned money to the British Crown at interest, thus creating the debt to the bank. It took less than eighty years to force King George to tax the American Colonies so as to pay the vast amount of interest to the bank. Colonial Investigators, such as, Ben Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, etc. became determined to free the American people from the debt of King George III to the Bank of England. With great sacrifice (the Revolutionary War) they wrote the Constitution of the United States of America...which Provides Constitutional Power, to Congress, to issue interest-free (debt-free) money so the people can control the economy with an elective Republic. The United States won the war against King George III, nevertheless, the Bank of England continued to bribe a few Americans to establish central banks, such as, the first and second Bank of the United States which Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson, respectively, denied renewal. In less than four score and seven years, Abraham Lincoln had his Congress to issue to issue the United States Note, free of interest so as to enable payment of the actual cost of the Civil War...which was paid in less than twenty years. In 1913, the U.S.A. politicians were conned into passing the Federal Reserve Act. Which gave the Federal Reserve Bankers the alleged power to issue United States money against the Credit of the U.S.A. taxpayer. The last year that the United States Note was issued interest-free to the U.S.A. Government was 1963, when $4,292,892,825.00 was printed into circulation. It should be interesting that President John F. Kennedy said (only ten days before his assassination): - "the High Office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American Freedom, and before I leave Office, I must inform the citizens of this plight." Since the J.F.K. Administration, very few politicians or members of the media have mentioned that the "UNITED STATES NOTE" issued (interest-free) by the U.S.A. Congress, will solve the U.S.A. National Debt which is caused by the interest-bearing issuance of the Federal Reserve Note. In the year of 1998, the U.S.A. taxpayer will pay to the Federal Reserve Bankers, over a million dollars-a-day (and accelerating) in interest against the fraudulent National Debt, THAT'S THE TRUTH! Pep DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (1/2) White House CIA: Vice Presidents of Vice
-Caveat Lector- In 1975, FLETCHER PROUTY, member of the below-described secret White House subcommittee in the mid-'50s and '60s, wrote: "Since [the mid-50s] the 'Special Group' or 'Forty Committee' has become a power unto itself. "The State Department has THOUSANDS of career people who are responsible for the foreign policy of the United States who take orders from the FIVE men of the 'Forty Committee.' "They authorize covert operations that have a much greater impact on world events than the more legitimate actions of the State Department. They perform this function this secretly -- without proper review, without comprehensive experience, and without anyone but a very few "spooks" ever knowing about it. "Technically, the CIA cannot be given special powers by the Forty Committee. The CIA was never granted such power by law, and legally, the practice should not be permitted to continue. No new laws are needed to forbid it. All that is needed is that the present law be followed precisely and enforced. The CIA exists to perform an INTELLIGENCE function and no more. "The latest of a long line of secret subcommittees, the 'Forty Committee' was earlier, in the late '50s, called the 'Special Group' -- 'Special Group' 5412 or 5412/2. "It has always been chaired by a representative of the President [usually the vice president] whose official title in this context is 'Presidential Advisor for National Security Affairs' -- a euphemism for the CIA's man in the White House. "[At one time, RICHARD NIXON was the President's National Security Advisor.] At another time, it was NELSON ROCKEFELLER ... "The [chairman of the 'Forty Committee'] [in 1975] is HENRY KISSINGER, who, even after becoming Secretary of State, still has not relinquished his position as White House CIA liaison ... "The other members of the committee are: the Director of the CIA, one representative of the Secretary of State and one for the Secretary of Defense, and since Kennedy's time, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "These five men, representing as they do the principals of the National Security Council, have had thrust upon them the responsibility for international clandestine operations." _ The following appeared in "Genesis" magazine, Feb. 1975: The Forty Committee by L. Fletcher Prouty "By God, Prouty, those bastards are going to let them murder Trujillo. They go around telling everyone this shit about anticommunism; invading Cuba with a half-assed task force and then when they have one tough son-of-a-bitch right there in the heart of the Caribbean, what do they do? They take away his support. He'll be dead in less than forty-eight hours." General Darcy was spitting mad. He was one of the toughest guys who ever strapped himself into a P-51 fighter. He was a real professional. He believed in fighting the Cold War as hard as he had fought the total war against Hitler. Now, in May 1961, less than one month after the Bay of Pigs, he had just come back from a meeting of the Forty Committee (then called the Special Group 5412/2). They were playing God again and Rafael Trujillo, the dictatorial president of the Dominican Republic, was the next target for termination. "Prouty, before you go back to your shop, go down to personnel. Find out what it takes to retire. This is not my game. I'm getting out." Before Darcy's papers could be processed, Trujillo was dead, murdered in the city that carried his name, by men of his own army. Tom Darcy had made it clear many times that he had no love for Trujillo nor for what he stood; but despite that he knew Trujillo would never condone communism, and anyway, "it is not our business to mess around in their internal affairs." Assassinations are not "made" by the Forty Committee; they are "permitted." When the South Vietnamese military found out that the U.S. was withdrawing its support from the Diem brothers in Saigon, there was but one thing for the Diems to do. Take that preferred plane ride and leave quickly. Trujillo was too proud to heed the warning, and he was shot down in the streets. The Diems were too stubborn. They returned to their palace to find that their CIA-trained elite guard --their only real personal protection-- had vanished. They were defenseless, dead. Many of the telegrams that tell this story are contained in the "Pentagon Papers." Anyone can see how this country removed its support from the Diems' government and all but engineered their murders. An interesting sidelight to this came up in the Watergate testimony: Charles Colson ordered E. Howard Hunt to doctor the State Department cables pertaining to the Diem murders in order to make it appear that President John Kennedy had ordered that act. Look at this from another perspective. Colson, Hunt,
[CTRL] (2/2) White House CIA: Vice Presidents of Vice
-Caveat Lector- THE FORTY COMMITTEE by L. Fletcher Prouty [cont'd] When the CIA was created, soon after World War II, the law (the National Security Act of 1947) stated clearly what its duties were to be. There are five. The first four are clearly above-board intelligence functions. It is the fifth duty that opens the door to clandestine operations: "--to perform such other functions and duties related to intelligence affecting the national security as the National Security Council may from time to time direct." This is the exact language of the law. This is the law today, and despite countless efforts by the CIA to have us believe otherwise, this is the only law that properly lists the duties of the CIA. It has not been changed -- and it has not been augmented. The CIA would like to have us believe that it has the right to perform clandestine activities. It does not have this authority in law -- unless it is directed by the National Security Council to perform such an activity. Even then the law is most explicit: it adds, "from time to time ..." As when the CIA is authorized to perform one clandestine operation, that authority does not carry over to another. The law further limits the CIA by saying "As the National Security Council may ... direct." In such important matters there is a vast difference between "direct" and "authorize." When the NSC "directs," that means that the highest authority in the country has originated the idea, approved it and resolved to carry it out. When the NSC believes that the plan must be carried out, and only then, the NSC "directs" that it be done. And the NSC has the authority to direct ANY agency -- not just the CIA. After Allen Dulles had been appointed Director of the CIA by President Eisenhower, he began a deft campaign to water down this prescribed process. Working in conjunction with his brother John Foster Dulles, who was then Secretary of State, Allen Dulles put his proposal in the following terms: because the members of the NSC are the busiest people in Washington, because they have the cares of the world on their shoulders, because the President or the Vice President cannot be at every meeting, it is proposed that representatives be appointed to a sub-committee of the NSC which can meet regularly in place of each member to act upon CIA clandestine matters. This sounded logical from an administrative point of view. But was it legal? Congress and federal law already said how this should be done. Congress knew that the NSC would be busy. They also knew that those top men would be most responsible and ultimately discreet. So Congress did not provide for a subcommittee. But it was done. The CIA had prevailed upon the NSC to publish a series of National Security Council Intelligence Directives (NSCIDs). One of these, NSCID 10/2, came close to giving the CIA what it wanted. In that document the NSC had spelled out that the CIA could get into clandestine work. However (and I used to have one of the original drafts of this directive in my files in the Office of the Secretary of Defense), President Eisenhower had written in his own handwriting on the side margin of NSCID/10/2 a stipulation to the effect that neither the military nor any other branch of the government was to provide the CIA with men, money, materials, or overseas base facilities in such quantity that the agency would have the ability to carry out a series of operations, a large operation, or a long-term operation. Eisenhower knew that if he cut off its men, money, and supplies, the CIA could not get deeply involved. The full meaning of this interpretation cannot be overemphasized. Yet the CIA eventually got around this device. Even the written directives of Presidents are ignored. For years Eisenhower's stipulation slowed Dulles down. But through a procedure found in the complexities of the national war planning process, of which the CIA's a part, he was able to find another loophole and to build up supplies as though they were part of his "Fourth Force" augmentation during wartime. The military fell for this and gave him more war materiel then he could ever use, even in peacetime. Then the CIA penetrated the military with "cover" units. At one time more than one thousand military units of varying strengths belonged to the CIA. Even though they were not large, they permitted men and materiel to flow anywhere -- and at no cost to the CIA. Then Allen Dulles got the Special Group established and it became the platform for the development of a capability for clandestine operations. With meticulous care Dulles saw to it that the men designated as representatives of the White House and of the State and Defense Departments were men with strong CIA connections. At one time General Edward G. Lansdale attended meetings for the Secretary of Defense.
[CTRL] The CIA's Real Agenda (Philip Agee)
PLAYBOY Interview with Ex-CIA agent PHILIP AGEE Excerpts: Q: In your opinion, what will be the result of the [1975] CIA investigations in Washington? "The Rockefeller Commission was never a real danger to the CIA. President Ford set it up to whitewash The Company." Q: But what does covert action have to do with economics? "Think back to the end of World War II. "The United States faced a really alarming economic crisis. In 1945, 11 million men were still under arms -- and out of the work force. Even so, production was more than double what it had been in the best prewar year. But then something scary happened. "In the first six months after the war ended, production was cut in half, and unemployment shot up from 830,000 to 2,700,000. In six months! "It looked as if the US might have won the war only to fall back into another Great Depression. "The people who were running the country --politicians and those who later became known as the "military-industrial complex" -- were badly frightened. Somehow they had to create 11 million new jobs or face catastrophe. "So they decided to reconstruct the European and Japanese economies, thus providing new markets for the US, and adopted the "containment" policies of such military alliances as NATO that brought on the Cold War. "When World War II ended, US policy toward the Soviet Union came to be dominated by the anti-Soviet school in the State Department led by George Kennan and Chip Bohlen, who were convinced that the Soviets wanted to conquer the world ... "In those days, though, the Soviets were militarily much weaker than the US public was led to believe. "But the scenario of an innocent and defensive America struggling to save the world from Communist dictatorship provided the rationalization for the dominance of foreign economies by American companies. "This was the CIA's main mission: to guarantee a favorable foreign-investment climate for US industry. "You see, the domestic market isn't big enough to support the kind of production the 'Free World' needs to keep unemployment down to so-called acceptable levels. It has to export --not only products but finance capital-- or die. "But where were our markets when the CIA was established? "Europe was in ruins. Japan was flat on its back. "Reconstruction of foreign economies [by the "CIA-military- industrial complex"] under the guise of "defending them against the Red Menace" would create a stronger market for the US .." "In my opinion, the Marxists are right about American economic imperialism. American multinational corporations have built up colossal interests all over the world, and you can bet your ass that wherever you find US business interests, you also find the CIA. "Why? Because the foreign operations of American companies are the key to our domestic prosperity. "The multinational corporations want a peaceful status quo in countries where they have investments, because that gives them undisturbed access to cheap raw materials, cheap labor, and stable markets for their finished goods. The status quo suits bankers, because their money remains secure and multiplies. "And of course, the status quo suits the small ruling groups the CIA supports abroad, because all they want is to keep themselves on top of the socioeconomic pyramid and the majority of their people on the bottom. "But do you realize what being on the bottom means in most parts of the world? Ignorance, poverty, often early death by starvation or disease." PLAYBOY: We all agree that the free-enterprise system has faults. But no system that has been set up so far provides the sort of idealistic paradise you envision, with everything distributed fairly. The point at issue here is the CIA -- whether it does more good than harm, whether the world would be better served by its existence as is, by its reform, or by its destruction. "I leave it to you to decide. "I promise you that the CIA now knows who you are and is undoubtedly at this moment running you through its computers. "Have you ever been arrested? "Are your tax returns up to date? "Did you ever fail to pay a bill? "Have you ever been to an analyst? "Did you ever knock a girl up? "Are you strictly heterosexual? "Do you sometimes blow a little grass? "And, by the way, when you leave the hotel, glance over your shoulder. Somebody may be following you." ___ Full text of interview in file attached PHILIP AGEE on the CIA Philip Agee: The Playboy Interview PLAYBOY: Are you in danger here? AGEE: Probably not. If they tried any rough stuff, it would have to look like an accident, and if anybody slipped up, there would be a very big flap. PLAYBOY: Is the room bugged? AGEE: I doubt it. Too much
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: GLOBAL PEOPLE'S TRIBUNAL ON CORPORATE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com ** GLOBAL PEOPLE'S TRIBUNAL ON CORPORATE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: In Seattle Nov 27-29 Thursday, November 18, 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear friends and allies, A unique event is being organized to take place the weekend prior to the WTO meeting in Seattle. It's being coordinated by Ward Morehouse, co-director (with Richard Grossman) of the Program on Corporations, Law and Democracy (POCLAD). I urge anyone who is interested in this event to do what you can among the following tasks to ensure that the event is a huge success: 1. Try to attend this event yourself, and tell your associates about it if they're going to Seattle. 2. Re-Send this email to your list of ally individuals and organizations PROMPTLY. It's being organized quite late in the game, and has not received much publicity thus far. You can help rectify that! 3. If you have a website, please link it to OUR website as this full text is also downloadable from our site: www.monitor.net/democracyunlimited 3. Make a tax-deductible donation to help defray the substantial expenses associated with bringing dozens of expert witnesses together, renting a hall, etc. Checks may be made payable to CIPA, and sent to the address at the end of the announcement. 4. If you own a broadcast-quality video camera, and can commit to being present for the entire event (Sat + Sun 9am-5pm) as part of a multi-camera film crew, please promptly contact video coordinator Emilia Berol - no later than 9pm west coast time on Monday, Nov 22nd - at 707-826-1963 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope to see you there, Paul Cienfuegos Director, Democracy Unlimited of Humboldt County Arcata, CA --- DRAFT DOCUMENT: 23 September 1999 Announcement GLOBAL PEOPLE'S TRIBUNAL ON CORPORATE CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY Seattle, Washington, USA, November 27-29, 1999 Plans are now being made to hold a Global People's Tribunal on Corporate Crimes Against Humanity at the time of the World Trade Organization Ministerial Meeting, which starts on November 29. The Tribunal will hear testimony and receive other forms of evidence of crimes against humanity by global corporations as defined under international and Canadian law on Saturday and Sunday, November 27 and 28, from 9am to 5pm both days. A decision on whether this evidence is sufficient to sustain charges of crimes against humanity will be rendered on Monday, November 29, the opening day of the Ministerial Meeting. Rationale: The real enemy of the people and the biosphere in Seattle is not the World Trade Organization but those structures of power which created it and which it serves -- namely, giant global corporations now larger than most nation states. One purpose of the Tribunal is to focus attention on this underlying reality of corporate-driven globalization. Another purpose of the Tribunal is underscore just how destructive of fundamental human rights, the environment and democratic process the world's largest corporations are. The organizers believe that it will be possible to present to the Seattle Tribunal sufficient evidence to sustain an indictment of those corporations being examined by the Tribunal for "crimes against humanity." Such crimes have been defined under Canadian Law C-71 as meaning "... murder, extermination, deportation, persecution, or any other inhumane act or commission that is committed against any civilian population or any identifiable persons ... and that ... constitutes a contravention of customary international law or conventional international law or is criminal according to the general principles of law recognized by the Community of Nations" (emphasis added). This definition is drawn from the Charter of the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg as subsequently reaffirmed and extended to acts committed at any time (not just wartime) by the UN General Assembly. And the UN's International Law Commission has asserted that "inhumane acts" become crimes against humanity when they are "committed in a systematic way or on a large scale and instigated or directed by a Government or by any organization or group" (emphasis added) which clearly includes non-state actors such as giant global corporations. Tribunal Format: A grand jury of persons from the USA (host of the WTO Meeting), Canada, and other countries will be impaneled by the presiding judge or judges of the Tribunal to receive evidence of crimes against humanity by a limited number of global corporations (see below). The jury will be aided in this task by one or more prosecutors who will review the applicability of crimes against humanity as defined above to different "inhumane acts or omissions" under Canadian and international law. This Tribunal will function like a grand jury, considering whether or not there is sufficient evidence to sustain charges of "crimes against humanity."
[CTRL] The BOOK
-Caveat Lector- Consortiumnews.com - http://www.consortiumnews.com Bush Family Book Burning Wednesday, November 17, 1999 Fortunate Son, the ill-fated biography of Gov. George W. Bush, was recalled for burning by the publisher, a decision that remarkably drew applause from the national news media. Indeed, the only visible media complaint was that the critical biography was written in the first place. What was missing from this coverage was any concern about the spectacle of influential politicians -- former President Bush and his son -- complaining about a book and then having it burned. The right-wing Washington Times even hailed what it termed the "finality of the furnace." Though there may have been legitimate questions about both the book and its author, the act of burning a political book in this fashion appears to lack a precedent in the history of American democracy. Plenty of books with errors have been written about politicians. But the well-connected Bushes demonstrated again that they have a way of making things happen. An editorial about the Bush Family Book Burning can be found at www.consortiumnews.com This is a very interesting read. It's also the lead editorial of the Nov-Dec IF Magazine. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Waco Commentary
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 16 Nov 1999 Chris W. Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] COMMENT: Per a discussion with deep-cover 'Waco agent' Dale Turner that revealed plausible connections where none were suspected before. - ATF Only Clinton Paramilitary Force Available in Feb 1993 The ATF was involved in the Waco raid a month after Clinton took office because it was the only para-military force he had full control of. The Secret service and the ATF report to the Treasury Department, where Lloyd Bentsen was the new Treasury Secretary, but he conveniently travelled out of the country a lot. - FBI Not Yet Under Clinton Control until Apr 1993 The FBI Hostage Rescue para-military force was still under Republican FBI appointee William Sessions and each of Clinton's proposed Justice Department appointees was being shot down by the Senate (Zoe Baird, etc.). Future felon Webb Hubbell was over at Justice as an Assistant Atty-General and was meeting with the military the Delta Force by early March 1993 - at the White House's request -- about a week after the ATF raid. - Bungled ATF Raid Late Feb 1993 - Reasons for Raid The bungled ATF raid was apparently initiated by pressure from well-connected illegal DNC contributors to Clinton's 1992 campaign from Australia, who wanted certain Davidian children extracted from certain estranged wives. Firearms had nothing to do with it. - Waco Massacre Already Planned in Early March 1993 The early March 1993 date for a military assault plan indicates that a decision had been made within a week or so of the bungled ATF raid to take no prisoners, if at all possible. - Massacre of Davidians to Cover Up Illegal Foreign Money Trails Through Estranged Davidian Wives The clean-up on the Davidians was envisioned by Clinton the DNC to keep the lid this illegal foreign money (other contributions were from the Chinese via Riady during the New Hampshire primary when Clinton ran out of money). The estranged Davidian wives, if allowed out with their children would have immediately become involved in custody lawsuits which would have revealed the linkage with Australians and might have exposed the tip of the Clinton illegal foreign money trail in 1993, not much later, after the 1996 election. This was very likely because by not yet having his own Atty-General and his own FBI Director, Clinton was saddled with 55 Republican appointed federal prosecutors scattered around the country, plus an FBI Director, that he could not control. The Waco plans could not be executed until later. - They had to die to remove threat to Clintons Not only the targeted wives, but the targeted children had to be killed to save the Clintons. Their normal mode of operation when threatened was to remove the threat using whatever police power they controlled at the time. Outside of Arkansas in early 1993, they only had the ATF and the Secret Service under relative control. Murder of unlucky innocents never prevented the Clintons from taking out a threat target. The ATF 'F-Team' idiots were eager to prove their worth to a president who was as lawless as they had become since the 1968 Gun Control Act. - The Plan Comes Together by Mid-April 1993 Waco had to sealed off and rendered incommunicado until the plan could be safely initiated. Finally, Sessions was fired, the black- mailable closet lesbian Janet Reno was appointed as Clinton's third choice for Attorney-General. She promptly fired all 55 Republican-appointed federal prosecutors and began replacing them with Clinton stooges. The path was cleared for mass murder and mass coverup, Arkansas Clinton-style. - The Waco Killing Fields - April 19,1999 Free of immediate Republican oversight, the Waco Plan was executed. No one was to be allowed out alive if possible, especially the wives and their children. The many planted bugs were used to isolate where the women and the children were and all attacks with CS rounds and injections were targeted at their presumed locations -esp. the buried bus and tunnels to it. Tanks tried to collapse the tunnels and collapse halls and stairs to keep the women children where they could be killed more easily. Finally with a fire raging and a possible SAS or Delta Force kill team inside armed with .45 auto pistols (the Davidians apparently had no .45 auto capable weapons) they were near their goal of no wives children surviving. As any tried to exit they were shot by snipers from the Delta Force (probably the .308 rounds) and Mossad agents (the .223 Israeli rounds). Helping him out of a difficult situation was a risk that proved to be a shrewd long-term investment for them, and also for several later triple-promoted military officers who became 3 4 star
[CTRL] Fwd: [spynews] Passenger List: WFP's Kosovo Plane Crash
Hope no one had any friends aboard, but it is best to know. Prudy '__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __ /'_|'o'\'V'/'\|'|'__|'|'|'/'_| \_'\''_/\'/|'\\'|'_||'V'V'\_'\ |__/_|''//'|_|\_|___|\_n_/|__/ http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html -- Sunday November 21, 1999 -- Statement 13 November 1999 LIST OF PASSENGERS OF THE WFP-CHARTERED FLIGHT TO PRISTINA ROME, 14:40 hrs --- The World Food Programme now confirms that the following passengers were on the WFP-chartered flight, flight KSV3275, that crashed in Kosovo November 12, 1999. There are no survivors. Roberto Bazzoni, Italian Caritas Sardinia Paola Biocca, Italian WFP Andrea Curry, Irish GOAL Velmore Davoli, Italian Gruppo Volontariato Civile Nicolas Evens, Ian Philip British Tearfund Abdulla Faisal, Kenya UNV Marco Gavino, Italian UNMIK Kevin Lay, British Tearfund Raffaella Liuzzi, Italian Boyden Miguel Martinez-Vasquez, Spanish UNMIK Jose Martinez, Maria Spanish UNMIK Alam Mirshahidul, Bangladeshi UNMIK J. Perez Fortes, Spanish UNMIK Richard Powell, Walker Australian WFP Daniel Rowan, Canadian Canadian Government Thabit Samer, Iraqi WFP Paola Sarro, Italian Terre des hommes Laura Scotti, Italian AiBi Antonio Sircana, Italian Caritas Sardinia Carlo Zecchi, Italian Gruppo Volontariato Civile Julia Ziegler, German International Crisis Group Andrea Maccaferro, Italian Air Operator Balmoral Antonio Canzolino, Italian Air Operator Balmoral Katia Piazza, Italian Air Operator Balmoral * * * Statement 13 November 1999 WFP HEAD OFFERS CONDOLENCES TO FAMILIES OF AIRCRASH VICTIMS ROME With the confirmation early this morning that there were no survivors on the World Food Programme plane which crashed north of Pristina yesterday morning, WFP Executive Director Catherine Bertini publicly offered condolences to the family members and friends of the 24 victims, three of whom were WFP staff members. "With my deepest regret and a great sadness in my heart, I reach out to all those mothers, fathers, children, relatives and friends of our lost colleagues," she said. "You are in our hearts and we too, here at WFP, are finding this accident and the loss of life very hard to accept." The Pristina-bound plane which departs daily from Rome was expected to arrive at its destination at 11:30. The last radio contact with the plane was at 11:15. Upon learning of the news of the planes disappearance, WFP contacted KFOR in Pristina to begin a search and rescue mission. The plane was located yesterday evening approximately 15 kilometres north of Pristina in a rough and hilly terrain, dotted with land mines Concerned family and friends can call WFP at (39) 06 6513-21850 for the latest update. Media inquiries, please contact: Francis Mwanza WFP, Rome Tel. 39 06 6513-2623 Jeff Rowland WFP, Rome Tel. 39 06 6513-2971 -- *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to SPYNEWS eGroup members who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml *** Mario Profaca, moderator mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking for the latest consumer electronic gadgets or computer equipment? eBay has thousands of audio equipment, computer games accessories. You never know what you might find at eBay! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1142 *__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __ /'_|'0 \'V'/'\|'|'__|'|'|'/'_| \_'\''_/\'/|'\\'|'_||'V'V'\_'\ |__/_|'.//'|_|\_|___|\_n_/|__/ http://mprofaca.cronet.com/latest.html eGroups.com home: http://www.egroups.com/group/spynews http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
Re: [CTRL] The BOOK
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/23/1999 7:55:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fortunate Son, the ill-fated biography of Gov. George W. Bush, was recalled for burning by the publisher, a decision that remarkably drew applause from the national news media. Indeed, the only visible media complaint was that the critical biography was written in the first place. In addition to the rush to burn the book, another oddity--St Martin's Press (the book's publisher which is stoking the furnace) is a division of Holzbrinck GmBH, the German Publishing House. Considering all the material I've read about the Bush family connections with Germany, Nazi and otherwise, perhaps they lit the bonfire as a personal favor. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [spynews] Israel partially responsible for Palestinian refugee problem
'__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __ /'_|'o'\'V'/'\|'|'__|'|'|'/'_| \_'\''_/\'/|'\\'|'_||'V'V'\_'\ |__/_|''//'|_|\_|___|\_n_/|__/ http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html -- Sunday November 21, 1999 -- MK Katz: Israel partially responsible for Palestinian refugee problem By BEN LYNFIELD and DAVID ZEV HARRIS Jerusalem Post, Monday, November 22, 1999 13 Kislev 5760 Labor MK Yossi Katz chats with some children during a visit to the Shuafat refugee camp in Jerusalem yesterday. JERUSALEM (November 22) - In a departure from the position traditionally held by every Israeli government, including that of Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Labor MK Yossi Katz yesterday said that Israel bears a share of the responsibility for the Palestinian refugee problem. Katz, who handles relations with the Palestinians on behalf of Labor, told reporters during a visit to the Shuafat refugee camp in Jerusalem that "the State of Israel must return Palestinians [to places] within the Green Line as part of the state's recognition and shared responsibility - together with the Arab states - for the refugee problem." Party secretary-general Ra'anan Cohen took Katz to task this weekend for his comments, originally made last week, backing a limited Palestinian right to return. Katz has called for the return of about 100,000 refugees to locales inside Israel within a framework of family reunification. The Labor-led government draws the line at such declarations, Cohen wrote to Katz. "This view is against the party's platform," he stated. The idea of a return of Palestinians is out of the question and that has been made clear to the Palestinians during the final-status talks, he added. "There has been no change [in this view] nor will there be," concluded Cohen. "This is my view, and I do believe that I am giving my support to Barak," said Katz. "We must prepare the people for what will be if we want a true peace." Last week, Katz paid a controversial visit to Orient House in east Jerusalem. "If he continues with these comments, he will lose this post," warned a senior party official. Cohen is seeking an urgent meeting with Katz and Internal Security Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami, who heads Labor's diplomatic team. Katz's comments prompted MK Yisrael Katz (Likud) to call for his expulsion from Labor, "otherwise [the party] will be seen as a partner to his words." Barak, addressing the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations in New York yesterday, said in response to a question that clearly Israel will not be accepting Palestinian refugees within the Green Line. This was in keeping with Barak's October 4 address to the opening session of the Knesset, when he said: "We regret the heavy suffering that the conflict caused not only us, but all of the Arab nations that fought against us, including the Palestinian people. "In a time of peace, Israel will be ready to take part in the effort to heal the wounds of war out of goodwill, friendship, and good neighborliness - and under no circumstances out of feelings of guilt or responsibility for causing the conflict and its results. This was a conflict we did not desire and did much to prevent." Katz participated in a Harvard University working group comprising Palestinian and Israeli academics who conferred over the refugee issue from 1994-98 in the hopes of contributing ideas for the negotiations. In those talks, the Israeli position was to refrain from taking responsibility for causing the refugee problem. Palestinian Authority Environment Minister Youssef Abu Safieh termed Katz's remarks "a step forward." "In the past, Israelis have always said that it is our fault for leaving our homes," said Abu Safieh, who grew up in the Gaza's Jabalya refugee camp and traces his roots to the former village of Hamama, north of Ashkelon. He added that the Palestinian position remains unchanged: UN General Assembly Resolution 194 must be implemented. "The basic question is acceptance of the right of return, than we can talk about the modalities," he said. Resolution 194, passed in December, 1948, states "that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbors be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return." Abu Safieh said the resolution should apply to five million Palestinians. Jerusalem Media and Communications Center director Ghassan Khatib, who participated in the Harvard working group, said: "There is still a significant gap between what Yossi Katz says and what Palestinians can accept and international legitimacy requires. But at least he is moving, and he is making efforts." Katz, joined by Oslo Accord pioneers Yair Hirshfeld and Ron Pundak, met with Palestinian academics in Jerusalem last week. Hirshfeld said he spoke of the need for a clear Israeli and Palestinian statement,
Re: [CTRL] Y2K Movie Tonight
-Caveat Lector- On 22 Nov 99, at 13:35, Tenorlove wrote: The movie, Y2K was aired by NBC in the Rhode Island area but I understand that some areas of the country may not have. That NBC may have substituted another movie instead. Would that WE were so lucky! The only thing that struck me was that the one person in the whole movie who got hurt was the guy who refused tp evacuate. Do you think there's a message there? sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Rep. Macdonald and KAL 007
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: BARD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: APFN [EMAIL PROTECTED]; HOLY_WAR [EMAIL PROTECTED]; InTheShadows [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FreedomFight [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Globalist Agendas Debate and Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roundtable [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Snetnews [EMAIL PROTECTED]; theseries [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ChristianPatriot [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patriots [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Rep. Macdonald and KAL 007 Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 4:21 PM AUGUST 29, 1988 What Happened to Flight 007? by Robert W. Lee Five years after the downing of Korean Air Lines Flight 007 by the Soviets on September 1, 1983, most of the key questions remain unanswered. A plethora of books and articles have attempted (with little success) to sort out the data and reach convincing conclusions about what actually happened, and why, and how. http://thenewamerican.com/focus/mcdonald/kal/kal3.htm - SEPTEMBER 10, 1991 KAL 007: The Questions Remain Unanswered by Robert W. Lee Eight years after the downing of Korean Air Lines Flight 007 by the Soviets on September 1, 1983, the most important questions about the incident remain unanswered. The most widely accepted view is that the airliner was indeed blown up, after which it plummeted into the Sea of Japan, killing all 269 persons (including 61 Americans) on board. But the main wreckage was not found, and no bodies positively identified as having been aboard Flight 007 were ever recovered. http://thenewamerican.com/focus/mcdonald/kal/kal1.htm - JANUARY 11, 1993 KAL 007: More Lies and Cover-up by Robert W. Lee On November 19th, during a three-day visit to South Korea, Russian President Boris Yeltsin handed over to President Roh Tai Woo what were alleged to be the long-sought "black boxes" containing the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) and flight data recorder (FDR) from Korean Air Lines Flight 007, the Boeing 747 jumbo jet which the Soviets shot down on September 1, 1983. Until 1991, the Soviets and Russians had denied having the black boxes. In October 1992, Yeltsin released purported CVR transcripts and a declassified memorandum regarding the FDR, but claimed that the black boxes themselves had been dismantled and were being held by the Soviet Defense Ministry. http://thenewamerican.com/focus/mcdonald/kal/kal2.htm - All of the above from The New American, visit it at: http://www.thenewamerican.com/ Also, recommend you pay a visit to The John Birch Society, Protecting America's freedoms for over 40 years through education and activism. http://www.jbs.org/ Regards, BardForwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no
Re: [CTRL] The BOOK
-Caveat Lector- On 23 Nov 99, at 9:36, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/23/1999 7:55:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fortunate Son, the ill-fated biography of Gov. George W. Bush, was recalled for burning by the publisher, a decision that remarkably drew applause from the national news media. Indeed, the only visible media complaint was that the critical biography was written in the first place. In addition to the rush to burn the book, another oddity--St Martin's Press (the book's publisher which is stoking the furnace) is a division of Holzbrinck GmBH, the German Publishing House. Considering all the material I've read about the Bush family connections with Germany, Nazi and otherwise, perhaps they lit the bonfire as a personal favor. Prudy H... I didn't know that Prudy. What with Bertlelsmann owning Bantam, Doubleday, Dell (and Random House?) I'm beginning to wonder how much of major American publishing is now German owned. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Y2K Movie Tonight
-Caveat Lector- Do you think there's a message there? How realistic the bug driven part of the plot were, time will tell. Real world experience will tell us all soon. The part of the plot driven by politics and psychology wasn't particularly believable. It was also so poorly written as to discredit the intelligence of the script writers. Perhaps this was a ruse. Perhaps the real message is that the bug driven parts of the plot aren't believable, either, and only an incompetent fool would even write about it, so we should just quit worrying. I also noticed that the plot revolved around a natural disaster and not the results of persons unknown acting in concert. Out here in the real world, the ruling class has had forty years to fix this thing. What have they done instead? They have built and provisioned huge underground fortresses where they could lay low for five or ten years if they had to. Hmn. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #4
-Caveat Lector- Ooookay, under the proposed new "ergonomic workplace" regulations, does her employer have to adapt her workstation to prevent further injury? *How* would you...er, is there...umm. I can't figure out how to say this, but you get the picture...I think... blush -Original Message- From: Ric Carter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #4 # Phone-sex operator wins masturbation injury claim. The woman, 40, said she developed carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands from masturbating as often as 7 times daily doing hot-chat with callers. She'll get benefits for the injuries. http://news.excite.com/news/r/991119/13/fl-life-phonesex DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS?
-Caveat Lector- Well, a friend of mine has an infallible incantation for malfunctioning copiers, which he inherited from his sons: "Abracadabra peanut butter sandwiches!" This is demonstrably more effective than calling the copier service tech... -Original Message- From: Kelly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 3:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS? -Caveat Lector- http://www.nettoilet.com/news/getarticle.shtml?1999/11/14/item5.html InternetTrash News Monday, 15-Nov-1999 13:39:21 EST BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS? BAYSIDE, N.Y. (Wireless Flash) -- Next time the office photocopier breaks down, don't call a mechanic -- call a psychic. According to New York-based medium Shelley Peck, photocopiers often go kerplunk after they absorb too much "negative psychic energy." Peck claims a copy machine will have problems if it's used to make copies of negative subject matter -- like memos announcing office job cuts or scandalous news stories. She says copiers can also become "cursed" when nearby workers bicker or use bad words around the machine. To protect your copy machine from negative vibes, Peck suggests hanging a piece of copper or black onyx in the copy room to absorb any negative energy emitted from the machine. http://www.nettoilet.com/news/getarticle.shtml?1999/11/15/item6.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS?
-Caveat Lector- Tatman, Robert wrote: Well, a friend of mine has an infallible incantation for malfunctioning copiers, which he inherited from his sons: "Abracadabra peanut butter sandwiches!" This is demonstrably more effective than calling the copier service tech... Oh, thank you Robert! I'll have to try that as kicking and swearing at it only seems to worsen the situation! Would you also have an incantation for fax machines? For some reason they seem to despise me. Kelly DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] EO 13142 Text
http://www.nara.gov/fedreg/presdoc.html#top http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/multidb.cgi Federal Register Search Results Search Database: Federal Register, Volume 64 (1999) For: ""page 66090"" Total Hits: 2 [1] fr23no99E Amendment To Executive Order 12958--Classified Size: 6491 , Score: 1000 , TEXT , PDF , SUMMARY [Federal Register: November 23, 1999 (Volume 64, Number 225)] [Presidential Documents] [Page 66089-66090] From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr23no99-132] Presidential Documents [[Page 66089]] Executive Order 13142 of November 19, 1999 Amendment To Executive Order 12958--Classified National Security Information By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to extend and establish specific dates for the time within which all classified information contained in records more than 25 years old that have been determined to have historical value under title 44, United States Code, should be automatically declassified, and to establish the Information Security Oversight Office within the National Archives and Records Administration, it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12958 is amended as follows: Section 1. In the first sentence of section 3.4(a) of Executive Order 12958, the words ``within five years from the date of this order'' are deleted and the words ``within six and one half years from the date of this order'' are inserted in lieu thereof. Sec. 2. The following new language is inserted at the end of section 3.4(a): ``For records otherwise subject to this paragraph for which a review or assessment conducted by the agency and confirmed by the Information Security Oversight Office has determined that they: (1) contain information that was created by or is under the control of more than one agency, or (2) are within file series containing information that almost invariably pertains to intelligence sources or methods, all classified information in such records shall be automatically declassified, whether or not the records have been reviewed, within 8 years from the date of this order, except as provided in paragraph (b), below. For records that contain information that becomes subject to automatic declassification after the dates otherwise established in this paragraph, all classified information in such records shall be automatically declassified, whether or not the records have been reviewed on December 31 of the year that is 25 years from the origin of the information, except as provided in paragraph (b), below.'' Sec. 3. Subsections (a) and (b) of section 5.2 are amended to read as follows: ``(a) The Director of the Information Security Oversight Office, under the direction of the Archivist of the United States and in consultation with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs and the co-chairs of the Security Policy Board, shall issue such directives as are necessary to implement this order. These directives shall be binding upon the agencies. Directives issued by the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office shall establish standards for: (1) classification and marking principles; (2) agency security education and training programs; (3) agency self-inspection programs; and (4) classification and declassification guides. (b) The Archivist of the United States shall delegate the implementation and monitorship functions of this program to the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office.'' Sec. 4. Subsection (a) and the introductory clause and item (4) of subsection (b) of section 5.3 are amended as follows: [[Page 66090]] (a) Subsection (a) shall read ``(a) There is established within the National Archives and Records Administration an Information Security Oversight Office. The Archivist of the United States shall appoint the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office, subject to the approval of the President.'' (b) The introductory clause of subsection (b) shall read ``Under the direction of the Archivist of the United States, acting in consultation with the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office shall:''. (c) Item (4) of subsection (b) shall read ``(4) have the authority to conduct on-site reviews of each agency's program established under this order, and to require of each agency those reports, information, and other cooperation that may be necessary to fulfill its responsibilities. If granting access to specific categories of classified information would pose an exceptional national security risk, the affected agency head or the senior agency official shall submit a written justification recommending the denial of access to the President through the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs within 60 days of the request
[CTRL] d.c. marxist scum give billions of taxdollars 2 russian thugs
-Caveat Lector- The two wings of The Thug Party are the appendages of the same bird of prey. **PLEASE DISTRIBUTE FAR AND WIDE!** But who is footing the bill for these enormous Russian military outlays? Isnt Russia broke? The answer to this simple question is not easy to comprehend, for it defies common sense. The money is coming from America and other Western countries; or, more precisely, it comes chiefly out of the pockets of American taxpayers. The International Monetary Fund (IMF), the World Bank, and other financial institutions, which heavily depend on American money, have funneled tens of billions into Russia's corrupted economy. Some of these billions have vanished, only to magically reappear in the private accounts of so-called New Russians in Western banks. http://216.46.238.34/articles/?a=1999/11/23/60023 Bard Only when you rid your Soul/Mind of the corruption of our Society will you find the Truth that will set you Free! Your vote in 11/2000 is crucial for the future of our Republic and that of your children. The Rapist's rape of our national treasure must cease, and ONLY YOU can bring that about. The two wings of The Thug Party are the appendages of the same bird of prey. Reader: Aren't you fed up giving you hard-earned personal resources to parasites in d.c., as well as to criminals in russia?? No wonder your taxes are high! Don't you get it?? For christsakes, Wise Up! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS?
-Caveat Lector- Kelly wrote: Tatman, Robert wrote: Well, a friend of mine has an infallible incantation for malfunctioning copiers, which he inherited from his sons: "Abracadabra peanut butter sandwiches!" This is demonstrably more effective than calling the copier service tech... Oh, thank you Robert! I'll have to try that as kicking and swearing at it only seems to worsen the situation! Would you also have an incantation for fax machines? For some reason they seem to despise me. P.S. Is there some secret slot where you insert the peanut butter sandwiches? Thanks! Kelly DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS?
-Caveat Lector- It works for fax machines, too, except the ones that dial your voice line and squeal at you when they don't get another modem... -Original Message- From: Kelly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 1:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS? -Caveat Lector- Tatman, Robert wrote: Well, a friend of mine has an infallible incantation for malfunctioning copiers, which he inherited from his sons: "Abracadabra peanut butter sandwiches!" This is demonstrably more effective than calling the copier service tech... Oh, thank you Robert! I'll have to try that as kicking and swearing at it only seems to worsen the situation! Would you also have an incantation for fax machines? For some reason they seem to despise me. Kelly DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS?
-Caveat Lector- No, no...you EAT the peanut butter sandwiches! -Original Message- From: Kelly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS? -Caveat Lector- Kelly wrote: Tatman, Robert wrote: Well, a friend of mine has an infallible incantation for malfunctioning copiers, which he inherited from his sons: "Abracadabra peanut butter sandwiches!" This is demonstrably more effective than calling the copier service tech... Oh, thank you Robert! I'll have to try that as kicking and swearing at it only seems to worsen the situation! Would you also have an incantation for fax machines? For some reason they seem to despise me. P.S. Is there some secret slot where you insert the peanut butter sandwiches? Thanks! Kelly DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Homeopathy Seems No Better Than Placebo in Preventing Migraine
http://internalmedicine.medscape.com/reuters/prof/1999/11/11.17/cl11179r.ht ml Homeopathy Seems No Better Than Placebo in Preventing Migraine WESTPORT, Nov 17 (Reuters Health) - A review of the literature indicates that homeopathic prophylaxis of migraine and other headaches is no more effective than placebo. A systemic review was conducted by UK investigator, Dr. Edzard Ernst of the University of Exeter, in which he examined studies of homeopathic prophylaxis for migraine and other headache types. Dr. Ernst used four databases to conduct independent computerized literature searches for randomized, placebo-controlled trials. Four studies were identified, all of which included migraine patients. A variety of homeopathic remedies, such as belladonna, cyclamen, gelsemium and sulfur, were administered in different potencies. "All studies were read in full," he reports in the November issue of the Journal of Pain Symptom Management. "The results of each trial were taken as published and no reevaluation was attempted." Overall, Dr. Ernst found "...no compelling evidence to suggest that individualized homeopathic treatment is more effective than placebo in the prevention of migraine or headache attacks." However, "[t]he paucity of trials is disappointing and limits the validity of this statement." Dr. Ernst therefore believes that any final judgement is still premature. J Pain Symptom Manage 1999;18:353-357. Copyright © 1999 Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. Copyright © 1994-1999 by Medscape Inc. All rights reserved. This website also contains material copyrighted by 3rd parties.
Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS?
The following was given to us when we received our new copy machine: WARNING! This machine is subject to breakdowns during times of critical need. A special circuit in the machine called a "Criticality Detector" senses the operator's emotional state in terms of how desperate they are to use the machine. The "CD" then creates a malfunction proportional to the desperation of the operator. Threatening the machine with violence, or using foul language towards it, only aggravates the situation. Likewise, attempts to use another machine will also cause it to malfunction. They belong to the same union. Keep cool and say nice things to the machine. Nothing else seems to work. NEVER LET ANYTHING MECHANICAL KNOW THAT YOU ARE IN A HURRY. Kelly wrote: -Caveat Lector- Tatman, Robert wrote: snip... EPF.
Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS?
-Caveat Lector- Tatman, Robert wrote: No, no...you EAT the peanut butter sandwiches! Well, thank goodness for that! I was fretting that perhaps these machines were growing biological parts unbeknownst to moi! And that soon they would copy and fax me around the world until I was just a pale shade of myself - floating in some body and mind-controlled esoteric-o-sphere. (TM) Kelly -Original Message- From: Kelly [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 1:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] BAD VIBES BEHIND COPY MACHINE BREAKDOWNS? -Caveat Lector- Kelly wrote: Tatman, Robert wrote: Well, a friend of mine has an infallible incantation for malfunctioning copiers, which he inherited from his sons: "Abracadabra peanut butter sandwiches!" This is demonstrably more effective than calling the copier service tech... Oh, thank you Robert! I'll have to try that as kicking and swearing at it only seems to worsen the situation! Would you also have an incantation for fax machines? For some reason they seem to despise me. P.S. Is there some secret slot where you insert the peanut butter sandwiches? Thanks! Kelly DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #4
-Caveat Lector- Tatman, Robert wrote: -Caveat Lector- Ooookay, under the proposed new "ergonomic workplace" regulations, does her employer have to adapt her workstation to prevent further injury? *How* would you...er, is there...umm. I can't figure out how to say this, but you get the picture...I think... blush Sounds like she needed a little aid or aide methinks. Plus a whole new head. Of her own! Kelly DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #4
-Caveat Lector- The answer is obvious! She just needs a remote controlled vibrator. You'd think she could figure it out given the industry she's in. - Original Message - From: Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #4 : -Caveat Lector- : : Tatman, Robert wrote: : : -Caveat Lector- : : Ooookay, under the proposed new "ergonomic workplace" regulations, does her : employer have to adapt her workstation to prevent further injury? *How* : would you...er, is there...umm. I can't figure out how to say this, but you : get the picture...I think... blush : : : Sounds like she needed a little aid or aide methinks. Plus a whole new : head. Of her own! : : Kelly : : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER : == : CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic : screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters : and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright : frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects : spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL : gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; : be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and : nazi's need not apply. : : Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. : : Archives Available at: : http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html : : http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ : : To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Om : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] suitcase-sized nuclear weapons in u.S. more...
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: BARD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: FreedomFight [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Globalist Agendas Debate and Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Roundtable [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Snetnews [EMAIL PROTECTED]; theseries [EMAIL PROTECTED]; APFN [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ChristianPatriot [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Patriots [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: suitcase-sized nuclear weapons in u.S. more... Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 2:21 PM PLEASE DISTRIBUTE EVERYWHERE! Report: Soviets hid nukes in U.S. WASHINGTON, Oct. 26 (UPI) _ A congressman said Tuesday the Soviet Union may have hidden explosives, radio-transmitters and possibly suitcase-sized nuclear weapons in the United States during the Cold War. Rep. Curt Weldon, R-Pa., said the secret installations were to be used in sabotage operations against U.S. power systems and other key infrastructures in the event of a war or other major crisis. Two such caches discovered last winter in Switzerland and Belgium were identified in KGB archives, suggesting hidden U.S. sites may exist as well. Weldon met last week with FBI Director Louis Freeh, who confirmed the possibility that similar explosives could be buried around the United States. http://www.unitedstates.com/cgi-bin/articles.pl?article=47078 Have a good day, Bard http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm ..federal government defined: ...a benefit/subsidy protection racket! As a Citizen of the soverign Peoples' Democratic Republic of California; I was unwittingly forced into Slavery by the Peoples' Democratic Republic of the united States of America when I was forced to apply, as a teenager, by an Employer acting as an Agent for the federal government for the mark of the beast, a Social Security number. PARENTS! Wise up!! As part of your Duty to teach your teenagers the facts of life, you should include the fact that they DONOT have to have the Mark of the Beast to obtain bona-fide employment. See: Keeping the baby un-numbered: file:///C|/My Documents/Ssa/Keeping the baby un-numbered.htm thirty pieces of silver: http://www.execpc.com/~tmuth/easter/passion.htm "Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state." --Thomas Jefferson Here is the main URL of the Website for Best downloads of Midis and MP3's from The King of Rock: http://www.presley.de/ Ambition is a dream with a V8 engine. -- Elvis Presley Source: "Rand Lindsly's HUGE Quotations File," an Internet collection of quotations. http://www.bemorecreative.com/one/838.htm I have no use for bodyguards, but I have a very special use for two highly trained certified public accountants. -- Elvis Presley Source: "The Speaker's Electronic Reference Collection," AApex Software, 1994 http://www.bemorecreative.com/one/838.htmForwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Prophets Galore
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Notes From The Prophets Conference ~ Gregg Braden (The following text is an excerpt from a transcription of Gregg Braden's presentation at The Prophets Conference which took place last August in Port Townsend, Washington.) Gregg Braden blends his experience as a former computer systems designer, geologist, and aerospace engineer with the ancient sciences of compassion, blessing, and the Essene mysteries of relationship. He offers a way to redefine hate, fear, separation, and the role they play in our lives as we begin a new planetary cycle. As a world explorer of ancient sacred sites, popular and powerful lecturer and author, Gregg teaches of the numinous and the path being taken between the physical and the metaphysical. Gregg Braden will be presenting his powerful work at The Prophets Conference ~ Santa Fe, April 14-16, 2000. Information at http://www.greatmystery.org/santafeconference.html. Gregg Braden on Prophecies and Predictions "There are many prophecies and predictions regarding this time in history, and I know that you have seen many of them. A couple of years ago they started showing up on national television - primetime television slots. We started watching programs like "Ancient Prophecies." There's "Ancient Prophecies 1," "Ancient Prophecies 2." I think there was an "Ancient Prophecies 3." There are a lot of those prophecies out there. We have been inundated in the media, through the worldwide web, in magazine articles and publications, with information regarding what this time in history is supposed to look like through the eyes of many ancient traditions. And, many people today are interpreting those prophecies and those predictions as being very frightening, because there are events that are depicted in very old texts regarding this time in history, events of catastrophic Earth changes, weather changes, upheavals in the Earth's crust, and global warfare. And there are experts now who are predicting that within the next two to three years, that they expect to see a loss of up to two thirds of the world's population to famine, disease, and the global war that they believe will center around the Middle East and the Balkans. (pause) Interesting. Well, when we hear those kinds of predictions, and we hear a lot of them on the circuits with the talks and the conferences that we go to, I like to ask people where their information comes from. Many people say it's right there in those ancient texts. It's right there before our eyes in those ancient traditions. And I say yes, there are some prophecies and predictions that have been preserved through ancient texts. And, they are fragmented and they are incomplete. And what we now know is that when we go back and look at those prophecies and predictions in their original format, they say something very, very different than the way they've been interpreted over the last one thousand years or so. Because, when we go back and look at the original texts, what we find is that for every prophecy of chaotic destruction and death and loss of life on a level that we've never seen before, for every one of those predictions, there are equally viable and valid predictions that say that we no longer have war from the change of this millennium forward, that we've outgrown the need to die, that sickness and suffering are things of our past, that our crops grow because our weather patterns are so gentle and that every mouth of every human is fed every day. And these prophecies are just as viable as the one's of the catastrophic destruction. And one of the mysteries has been, has always been, why would an ancient prophet, in their perspective, in their time, looking forward along the linear pathway of time as they were perceiving it (we know that time isn't necessarily linear, but as they're looking forward into time) how could they see such diverse possibilities for the same moment in time? How could they look at the change of a millennium and see all negative - the frightening possibilities - and at the same moment see all of the positive elements of joy that lighten our hearts and allow us to feel the sense of relief? How could they see those for the same moment and time? Well, it's only been in recent years, within about the last five years, through the eyes of quantum physics reinterpreting many of these ancient texts, that they began to make sense. And, in a nutshell, I'll just share with you what they're saying, and we're going to go through this over the next couple of hours together. What they're saying is that there's a good possibility the ancient prophets didn't even understand what they were seeing. Isn't that interesting? They were given vision into future possibilities. And they would see one and then they would see another, and then they would see another, and it's even recorded that when they came back, they didn't understand what they were seeing. And they were given the
Re: [CTRL] Australia's Port Arthur Massacre
-Caveat Lector- Dear Earthman, Hello again; I hope you are well. As this Port Arthur article you've posted is in harmony with my article about the conspiracy to disarm the British public, in which I refer to the Port Arthur Massacre, I thought I would send you the article, in case you haven't seen it and then if you like you could cut and paste it, or parts of it, into the relative place. Or if you like I could do it later and post it to you completed. Peace be upon you, JAH. My article:- Please repost to your own mailing lists and newsgroups and as far and wide as possible - Thanks Dear Friends, Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al: The more I read your various correspondences, the more I see how frightened and desperate many of you are and from the many reports sent in, about various government activities, the greater the need for good guidance on how to defeat the 300 Gang and even more importantly SURVIVE. With all the measures being taken by so many people; most of which, I'm sorry to have to tell you, will not be of any use; it appears that whilst many of you claim to believe IN God, very few seem to BELIEVE God and His Word. He has told the world on the last page of the Old Covenant/Testament in Malachi 4 what every one of you MUST do, if you want to survive not only y2k but also The Fire, which was re-confirmed by Christ in the Revelation to John, in Revelation/Apocalypse 14:3 and 15:3. Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a "New Song" (Isaiah 42:10) before the Throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that "Song" EXCEPT the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the Earth. 15:3 And they sing the "Song of Moses" (Old Covenant - Deut. 31) the servant of God, AND the "Song of the Lamb" (New Covenant), saying, Great and marvellous [are] Thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and TRUE [are] Thy Ways, Thou King of the holy people. In both places, you have been told that you MUST return to keeping ONLY God's Laws and The Covenants - the Old and the New Covenants which are harmonised and referred to as the "New Song" by Christ in Revelation 14:3 and 15:3 above and by God in Isaiah 42:10. Isaiah 42:10 Sing unto the "I AM" the "New Song" (Rev. 14:3; 15:3), [and] His praise from the "end of the earth", ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof. 42:11 Let the "wilderness" and the cities thereof lift up [their voice], the villages [that] Darkness doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the Rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountain. 42:12 Let them give glory unto the "I AM", and declare His praise in the islands. 42:13 The "I AM" shall go forth as a mighty man, He shall stir up jealousy like a man of WAR: He shall cry, yea, roar; He shall PREVAIL against His enemies. I have placed the "New Song" that every one of you who wants to survive and live in God's Kingdom MUST learn and live by, on my website:- http://www/geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/nsongad.htm please retrieve; download and use it, now. Christ has told you clearly that out of 6,000,000,000 million people only 144,000 will be able to learn to live this "New Song" and the rest will not survive, because they only believe IN Him, instead of BELIEVING Him and getting to KNOW God by following Christ's teachings, to the letter, and not the many varied and conflicting teachings of the many different christian churches. It seems you are all far more pre-occupied with the 300 Gang, than in following God's survival instructions. Those who KNOW God should not be the least bit worried about anything or what anyone might, or might not, try to do to their body. What is the point of surviving the y2k, or attacks by foreign or domestic governments, or the U.N., NWO, if you are not going to survive what God has in store for you very soon, anyway. For confirmation of the time please see "Signs of the End Times" on my site. Malachi 4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing). 4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall (in perfect safety). 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts. 4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb (Sinai) for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments. 4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61): 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, (by recovering
Re: [CTRL] Y2K Movie Tonight
-Caveat Lector- It should be fairly obvious to us all by now that something, who knows exactly what, will happen on 1/1/00. The biggest threat may not be our machines but the people bent on their end of the world doctrine. Could they actually bring it about? I think so. Bioweapons, chemicals, something destructive so they can say "See? We were right! " God help us all... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991123a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * Please DO NOT include the entire bulletin when you reply; Cut/Paste, eh? * No overly-intellectual "smart dust" was harmed to produce this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Full Y2K Compliance: http://members.xoom.com/_XMCM/joelzahn/Office2000/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Human Computers Through BioEngineering On The Way. Washington (SHNS) About to be unloosed on Earth is intelligence far greater than that of humanity. Yes, computers that think - much faster, more broadly, more deeply - than people do. Yes, computers that feel and have self-awareness. They will be based, not on silicon, but on carbon, neurons, elements of life. We had better teach them to like us: http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/hucomp.htm : Are you ready to submit to the silicon masters? Do you feel slow, stupid, sluggish? Should you merge with them, ingest them, become one with them?? @ Interspecies Nurturing: http://jlms.com/~mc_tact/just019.jpg _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Spies'R'Us: # Mini Airborne Intelligence. BERKELEY, CA (ABC) Whenever there is danger we need info, we usually send in humans: at crime scenes, during nuclear accidents, in wartime. It is human life we risk to gain intelligence. But why not use "smart dust"? Scientists are creating tiny computerized sens- ors the size of specks of dust that can be scattered into the air send back data - in the future, even pictures - as they float back to Earth. http://abcnews.go.com/onair/cuttingedge/wnt_991119_ce_smartdust_feature.html : Is dust smarter than you, more observant, more valuable? Should you be covered with microscopic sensors/computers/communicators? Are they godlike? # Spies in the 'forests': DOD testing massive spy-tec. Last week we reported that a US spy agency had a system to eavesdrop on phone calls. Now it is lab-testing software to sift thru calls emails in search of key phrases: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/Digital/Features/spies221199.shtml : Are you constantly monitored? Do you wrap yourself with lead foil to keep the probes at bay? Do you speak gibberish to throw off the NSA word spies?? # ECHELON Examined - Officials Hope to Uncover How Funds Used for Spy Work: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/echelon991122.html # JUDGE LETS CIA KEEP BUDGET SECRET - don't watch the spies: http://www.cnn.com/US/9911/23/cia.budget.ap/index.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE RISKS DIGEST: Nasdaq software failure; Netscape's cookie-preserving behavior; PFIR: "People For Internet Responsibility"; Businesses could owe millions for popular Y2k bug fix; Japan rail ticket system crash due to 11/11/11 11:11; Computer prompts increase errors? Y2K creates "horse- less carriages"; Risks in end-user license agreements? Microsoft Y2K liability; Risks of Office 2000; Slashes in spreadsheets; DVD crypto was intentionally weak; Amazon password risk; Who protects me from the protec- tors? Risks of ads in software; Workshop on Freedom Privacy By Design; Info on RISKS (comp.risks) -- http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/20.65.html # HUBBLE REVEALS GALACTIC SMASHES MORE COMMON THAN EXPECTED. Astronomers on the Hubble Space Telescope observed the galactic equivalent of a rush hour multi-car pileup. New data shows the rare ultra-luminous infrared galaxies are involved in collisions more frequently than scientists thought, with fiery pile-ups of 3, 4 or even 5 galaxies smashing together. More colli- sions than expected: http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9911/22/hubble.galaxies/ : Do you fear the risk of the Milky Way smashing head-on into Andromeda? Do the deities piloting these galaxies drink and drive? Do they smash galaxies together just to watch the sparks? Are all deities irresponsible juveniles? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Ear Stellas Found At Sphinx - Are The Gods Listening? These ear-tablets are usually found in the vicinity of any sanctuary or temple. Were they were made to attract the Gods to the prayers of the supplicant? Petrie says: "To gain the attention of the Gods, there arose the strange custom of carving ears upon the tablet of prayers. Thus, it was thought that the God would more readily hear the petitions. In one example there are dozens of ears on a single tablet". http://projectduat.com/sphinx-ear-stellas/ : How do you get deities to listen to you? Do bribes help? Have you bribed any gods lately? Have you sucked up to'em? Do sacrifices get their notice? # Varginha UFO Crash - Brazilian Army Claims 3 Girls Saw 'Deformed Human' - I don't think so, do you? http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/deformed.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # TIMELESS. Surely nothing is possible without time? But a physicist sez it doesn't even exist. (NewSci) TIME SEEMS TO BE the most
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1
-Caveat Lector- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] SkeptiNews 991123a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question # TIMELESS. Surely nothing is possible without time? But a physicist sez it doesn't even exist. (NewSci) TIME SEEMS TO BE the most powerful force, an irresistible river carrying us from birth to death. To most people it's an inescapable part of life, a fundamental element of the Universe. But time may be an illusion. Physicists struggling to unify quantum mechanics and Einstein's general theory of relativity have found hints that the Universe is timeless. http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19991016/timeless.html Humanity does tend to equate time with degeneration which, in fact, are two separate issues. Got about halfway through the article and lost my time-space coordinates... Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991123b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * Please DO NOT include the entire bulletin when you reply; Cut/Paste, eh? * Nothing was done to produce this bulletin. It spontaneously coalesced... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ 5: http://members.xoom.com/0rpheus/rel/MISC_REL/OCCULT/PICS/DISCORDI.GIF _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Occidental Tourist. Are spiritual expeditions the next wave in travel? "Certainly we plugged into the Buddhist Circuit to gain a new perspective on the dharma, to 'deepen our practice.' But we were also outsiders, spir- itual tourists. We sought insight, but we were also on a quest for the tackiest dharma kitsch we could find,a quest that was satisfied by chintzy holographic keychains ('shining Buddha' we were told) and a set of plastic dinner plates smeared with fuzzy photo-transfers of Tibetan mandalas." http://www.feedmag.com/essay/es268_master.html?alert : Do you seek spiritual kitsch? Does it seek you? Did your karma run over my dogma? Have you found a good religious circus? Are you a holy clown? Am I?? # Mr. Death: http://www.feedmag.com/daily/dy111999_master.html?alert _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Art fans don't get to see condom-clad Jesus doll. (DN) The Guiliani-like director of Detroit's Institute of Arts decided the public shouldn't see artist Jef Bourgeau's works, including the Jesus doll, a urine exhibit, and a menstruation-related video. Sez da artist: "The '90s is about shock. What is disappointing is that there have been no complaints and they closed it down." http://www.detnews.com/1999/metro/9911/22/11220078.htm : Do your religious icons depict safe sex? If art doesn't shock, is it only decoration? Do you know art when you see it? Does art know you? Do voices in your head help you discern art from not-art? Are you a critic? Are you sane? @ PATHWAY TO DARKNESS - Vampire culture: http://www.pathwaytodarkness.co _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # CHURCH RULES SAME-SEX WEDDINGS CAN'T BE CALLED 'MARRIAGES.' A Presbyterian Church court ruled that New York's upstate churches can continue to hold wedding-like blessings of same-sex couples as long as they are called "unions" -- not marriages. Opponents vow to appeal to national church court - see http://cnn.com/US/9911/22/gay.presbyterians/index.html : If you want your same-sex or intra-species union blessed and recognized as a wedding, why not come to The Church of the Otters now? http://tcoto.da.ru # Drug-Running Priest Did It for the Kids? SAO PAULO (Reuters) A Brazilian priest caught with 11 kilos of cocaine hidden beneath his cassock told police he was trafficking the drugs to save a struggling day care center. Ends and means: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991123/07/odd-drugs-brazil _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Churches close in Holy Land. NAZARETH, Israel (AP) - The gates of churches across the Holy Land swung shut in protest as church leaders made a final attempt to block the building of a mosque in the heart of Nazareth, the town of Jesus' boyhood. Increasingly volatile relations between Christians and Muslims: http://infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562212873-7ea # Vatican Says Israel Fomenting Religious Division. VATICAN CITY (Reuters) The Vatican bluntly accused the Israeli government of fomenting religious divisions by allowing a mosque to be built in Nazareth, the boyhood home of Jesus. Moi? http://news.excite.com/news/r/991123/09/news-mideast-pope : Does your govt like to foment religious divisions? Does your religion like to foment political divisions? Do DIVIDE-AND-CONQUER strategies still work? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Crash-A-Rama: @ Air Crashes, Black Boxes Unsafety Boards: More of the Same? The National Transportation Safety Board, NTSB, and its predecessor federal agencies, have a long, sorry history of covering up foul play in aircraft disasters. "Sabotage" a dirty word to them: http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/crsh.htm # FBI AGENTS IN CAIRO CHECK EGYPTAIR PASSENGER BACKGROUNDS -diplomatic hot potato: http://www.cnn.com/US/9911/22/egyptair.01/index.html # Egypt official reports on jet crash - crew is not to blame: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562213816-5d3 # 50% Of Gringos Now Afraid To Fly. NEW YORK (PRNewswire) In the aftermath of the EgyptAir 990 crash, 50% of Americans who have flown on a commercial airline say they are frightened at least sometimes when they fly, sez a poll. That's up from 43% in a poll taken in May 1996, after the ValueJet crash in Florida. http://www.sightings.com/politics5/afraidtofly_p.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Group Unveils Annual 'Dangerous' Toy List - MindControl Games Not Listed. BOSTON (Reuters) Parents beware: Although they may look like perfectly harmless presents, "Dipsy" the Teletubby bucket and Rad
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- Out of the phlogiston, like maggots appearing spontaneously on rotten meat in a vacuum jar? -Original Message- * Nothing was done to produce this bulletin. It spontaneously coalesced... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- From: "Ric Carter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Nothing was done to produce this bulletin. It spontaneously coalesced... Another blackout? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Tatman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Out of the phlogiston, like maggots appearing spontaneously on rotten meat in a vacuum jar? Robert, sometimes your mind seems a very scary place to be...:-) Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Latest on Second Oswald
-Caveat Lector- Tape: Call on JFK Wasn't Oswald By DEB RIECHMANN .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Hours after President Kennedy was assassinated, FBI agents reportedly listened to a tape of a phone call that a man identifying himself as ``Lee Oswald'' had placed to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City. They made a startling discovery: The voice on the tape was not Oswald's, government records say. This controversial tape has been a question mark in the assassination investigation since Kennedy was killed. The assassination occurred 36 years ago Monday and only now have new details about the tape come to light. The CIA said years ago that the tapes on which it recorded the call were erased. Documents released in recent years said otherwise. The latest and newest of declassified documents offer more evidence that the tapes survived. The discovery that the voice on the tape was someone other than Oswald was a ``disquieting discovery because the man who impersonated Oswald was still at large,'' said John Newman, an ex-military intelligence analyst, author and professor at the University of Maryland. Oswald was in Mexico City in September and October 1963. During his one-week stay, he contacted the Soviet Embassy and the Cuban consulate, inquiring about visas needed to go to the Soviet Union via Cuba. It is widely known that the CIA bugged telephones and took surveillance photos at both the embassy and consulate. But the agency maintained that it had routinely erased and reused tapes of the phone intercepts. A message from the CIA's Mexico City station to headquarters on Nov. 24, 1963, said: ``HQ has full transcripts all pertinent calls. Regret complete recheck shows tapes for this period already erased.'' It was also known that while he was in Mexico City, Oswald had contact with Valeriy Kostikov - a man that one CIA memo described as a ``case officer in an operation which is evidently sponsored by the KGB's 13th Department responsible for sabotage and assassination.'' It was the caller who is thought to have impersonated Oswald who links him to this Soviet spy unit known as Department 13. Newly declassified documents - some released in the past six months - say that after the president was shot, a Navy plane carried a top-secret package from Mexico City to Dallas and landed there about 4 a.m. EST the day after the murder. Former FBI Agent Eldon Rudd, later a Republican congressman from Arizona, was aboard the plane. ``There were no tapes to my knowledge,'' Rudd said in a telephone interview. ``I brought the pictures up (from Mexico) and it was my understanding that it was just pictures.'' Documents contradict Rudd's understanding. A newly released memo dated Nov. 27, 1963, from FBI headquarters to its office in Mexico City, stated: ``If tapes covering any contacts subject (Oswald) with Soviet or Cuban embassies available, forward to bureau for laboratory examination and analysis together with transcript. Include tapes previously reviewed Dallas if they were returned to you.'' And a transcript of a telephone call FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover made to President Johnson just six hours after the plane arrived in Dallas supports the belief that FBI agents listened to a tape that suggested an impersonation. ``We have up here the tape and the photograph of the man who was at the Soviet embassy using Oswald's name,'' Hoover told Johnson, according to a transcript of that call released in 1993. ``That picture and the tape do not correspond to this man's voice, nor to his appearance. In other words, it appears that there is a second person who was at the Soviet embassy down there.'' While they would not speculate about the identity of the caller, several assassination researchers privately offered some explanations: Oswald could have been impersonated by a CIA officer who called the Soviet Embassy simply to fish for details about what Oswald was doing in Mexico City. Or, maybe someone was trying to link Oswald to the KGB's assassination unit before Kennedy's murder. Whatever the answer, there was plenty of reason for worry in Washington about any evidence pointing to Soviets or Cubans as somehow involved in the assassination. Relations with the former Soviet Union were icy. Both sides were armed with nuclear weapons. The Cuban missile crisis was still very much on America's mind. ``The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large,'' Nicholas Katzenbach, then deputy attorney general, wrote in a memo on Nov. 25, 1963. ``Speculation about Oswald's motivation ought to be cut off and we should have some basis for rebutting (the) thought that this was a communist conspiracy or ... a right-wing conspiracy to blame it on the communists.'' In a telephone interview last week, Katzenbach said he does not know anything about the FBI listening to a tape in Dallas. ``Whether I knew anything about it at the time, or what I knew about it
[CTRL] (Fwd) [BRIGADE] Business Bankruptcy - Weekly Reports
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Linda Muller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:46:16 -0500 Subject:[BRIGADE] Business Bankruptcy - Weekly Reports Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Brigade, Please see below -- excellent source for info on US business filing for bankruptcy each week. Thanks Carol for sending it to us!! For the Cause - Linda --- From: "Brainella" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Fw: U.S. Corporate Bankruptcy List Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:20:09 -0500 I subscribe to a list of American/U.S. Bankrupted companies because I believe that this is one aspect of the economy that reflects on American based businesses that is never discussed or brought to light in the news media. The wounded companies, when not dissolved, remain in a smaller down-sized condition thus affecting the employment for U.S. citizens. Just thought I would share this because PJB does care about American businesses and their stability. Their link is http://www.abccompanies.com/resource/bankrupt.html Carol --- Date: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 12:06 AM Subject: U.S. Corporate Bankruptcy List U.S. CORPORATE BANKRUPTCY LIST for the period November 15-19, 1999 Prepared by The ABC Companies, Inc. 1100 Main Street Buffalo, New York 14209-2356 USA Phone: 716-885- Fax: 716-878-2800 All information provided in this report has been obtained from sources believed to be reliable. However, neither ABC Companies Inc. nor its subsidiaries, the American Bureau of Collections, Inc. or the Advanced Business and Credit Information, Inc., nor any of their officers or employees can verify the accuracy of the information. As such, the information is not guaranteed and should not be relied upon without independent verification from competent professionals. RECENT BANKRUPTCIES/CLOSINGS PLEASE NOTE THAT THERE WILL BE NO BANKRUPTCY REPORT FOR THE WEEK NOV. 22-26 DUE TO THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY. THE NEXT REPORT WILL BE DELIVERED ON DEC. 3 AND WILL INCLUDE INFO FROM THE PRIOR TWO WEEKS. Chapter 7s Abatement Environmental Resources Inc., Springdale, MD -case # 99- 22370 Artjay Industries Inc., Troy, MI Big Apple Corp., Glendale, WI, formerly d/b/a Bayou andBrooklyn's One Water Breeze Courier Group Inc., Hanover, MD CH League Enterprises Inc. d/b/a Q-Zar of CS Inc., ColoradoSprings, CO - case # 99-23040 Communication Systems International Inc., Colorado Springs, CO Continental Sportsman Inc., Mountlake Terrace, WA - case # 99-12173 DL Construction, Mequon, WI Dev Com Leasing Inc., Mounds, MN Dollar Village Inc., Aurora, CO Energy Services Contractors Inc., Valencia, CA - case # SV99-21689-AG Fox Bay Entertainment Inc., Whitefish Bay, WI Graham Transport, St. Paul, MN Larc Pizza Inc., Stillwater, MN Lee Rich Productions Inc., Los Angeles, CA Lulu Foods Inc., Malibu, CA - case # SV99-218477-KL Premier Air Express, Playa Del Rey, CA - case # LA99-48482-BR Premier Health Care Inc., Miami Beach, FL - case # 99-40460 Steelman-Cincinnati Inc., Amelia, OH Travel Review Publishing Inc., Marblehead, MA - case # 99-18700 Vidikron Technologies Group Inc., New York, NY Want Ads of Salt Lake City Inc., American Fork, UT, d/b/aThriftY Nickel - case # 99-31762 Westlake Energy Consultants Inc., Thousand Oaks, CA - case # SV99-21649-KL Chapter 11s American Vista Vending Inc., Jupiter, Fl - case # 99-35357 Cellular Headquarters Inc., Maple Shade, NJ - case # 99-18412 Computer Support Technologies Inc., Ann Arbor, MI (invol) Coram Independent Practice Association Inc., Denver, CO Coram Resource Network Inc., Denver, CO Danish Pastry Shop Inc., St. Paul, MN Dick's Glass Co. Inc., Schenectady, NY - case # 99-16022 Fields Aircraft Spares Inc., Simi Valley, CA Gloucester Building Supply Inc., Gloucester City, NJ - case # 99-19464 Haddon National Cos. Inc., Pennsauken, NJ - case # 99-19319 Heber Enterprises Inc., Englewood CO, also d/b/a ColoradoMaintenance Specialties Corp. Home Medical Care Inc., Pomona, CA - case # LA99-47238-SB Insync Interactive Communications Inc., Detroit, MI Integrated Computer Management Inc., Troy, NY - case # 99-152876 Jell Industries Inc., Mercerville, NJ - case # 99-60316 Laser Engineering Inc., Coral Springs, FL - case # 99-27002 Leasing Solutions Inc., Los Angeles, CA Marshall Electric Co. Inc., Lindenwold, NJ - case # 99-19463 Miami Dominion Group Inc., Wildwood Crest, NJ - case # 99-19718 Mulligan Partenheimer Inc., Springfield, MO National Computer Resources Inc., Wixom, MI OpTel, Dallas, TX Petsec Energy Inc., a U.S. unit of Petsec Energy Ltd. ofSydney, Australia Pico Macom Inc., Lakeview Terrace, CA Premium Tune N' Lube Inc., Issaquah, WA - case #
[CTRL] (Fwd) [BRIGADE] H1-B Thanksgiving
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Linda Muller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:02:40 -0500 Subject:[BRIGADE] H1-B Thanksgiving Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Brigade, As we prepare to enjoy Thanksgiving, let us also remember the many American's who have become jobless due to the H1-b foreign worker import program. BTW - In case you were wondering whether the major GOP candidates were concerned about our American workers: Sen. John McCain - "I am proud to have been an original co-sponsor of this bill, which would raise the temporary visa cap for skilled foreign workers." He voted against an ammendment that would have prohibited U.S. firms from using H-1Bs to replace Americans. George W. Bush - Announced that he supports H-1B. As of 9/15/99 Bush had received $380,000 from computer industry executives. Steve Forbes - Forbes said the cap on visas for skilled, foreign-born workers should be increased to help companies faced with staffing shortages. Here is what Pat has to say: Pat Buchanan - "Do our high-tech firms need 60,000 new foreign workers, or do they just prefer pliable Asian guest workers to middle-aged Americans? Our manufacturing sector is already showing signs of a slowdown. Exports are falling, and the Asian import tsunami has not yet hit. If the economy turns turtle just as 115,000 guest workers start replacing Americans in high-tech jobs and shouldering aside our college graduates, the GOP will be risking in 2000 a repeat of '96 and '92. How many times does the elephant have to get hit with a two-by-four?" - PJB 9/4/98 Here are 2 emails from our friend Gene Nelson - fyi. GO PAT GO Linda From: "Gene A. Nelson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Linda Kilcrease's NAS - NSF Testimony 11 22 99 Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 06:55:01 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear BrainSaver.org list members: The note from Linda immediately below is testimony to the power of employers to cow professionals into submission. I'm sure that many permanently displaced professionals had no means to learn that the NAS - NSF meeting was taking place. Their new employer (Wal - Mart, perhaps) also frowned on their taking a day off to provide testimony to the government. My namesake, Gene Nelson was the first entertainer "blacklisted" by the studio system. Many workers are fearful of being blacklisted in an environment where employers receive huge numbers of resumes for the few positions that they fill. Gene Nelson, Ph.D. A BrainSaver in Dallas, Texas -- From: Linda Kilcrease[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 11:13 PM To: Gene A. Nelson Subject:testimony PROBLEMS WITH THE H-1B VISA EXPANSION AND T-VISAS I oppose T-visas or an expansion of the H-1B visa. Last year companies legally fired hundreds of thousands of U.S. IT workers (per Challenger, Gray and Christmas), without re-tooling any of them, believing the answer for skilled workers is in some mythical unending supply of cheap foreigners they can import - as they displace us. I was one of all IT workers fired by insurance giant AIG, headquartered in New York. This highly profitable company boasted they were saving $11 million as they made us train our H-1B replacements. The company that provided the foreigners to AIG, Syntel, was punished for paying foreigners less than the prevailing wage. I sought to sue AIG via 4 government agencies. This failed as they did nothing illegal, no matter the harm to their employees. I secured a job, but retirement benefits were destroyed - in my 50's, I cannot start over. There remain no protections to prevent abuse. Protections in companies that have H-1B's as 15% or greater of the workforce - body shops - do not protect Americans. And the H-1B worker has the incentive to not file a complaint. There remains lack of real regulatory oversight. We cannot support bills that virtually give open borders to foreign IT workers when we have not addressed using available U.S. workers. Thousands of Y2K programmers are becoming available. Do we throw them away? Do we throw away today's graduates when they advance in their careers and become "expensive"? It is disturbing that the average wage increase for workers is 3.1%, but for CEO's is 37.8%. This is the ethics from which the H-1B rises up. As qualified U.S. workers lose, or are not considered for jobs, foreign workers are exploited. H-1B's I know receive allowances with pay going home short-circuiting U.S. payroll taxes, cheating our Treasury. The prevailing wage foreigners are to be paid is based on old numbers, incorporates high skilled jobs into lower level job slots, does not consider benefits nor annual wage increases. H-1B
[CTRL] Foreign Faces
-Caveat Lector- From Slate.Com {{Begin}} international papers Hillary in Florence By Alexander Chancellor Hillary Clinton was the personality who most interested the Italian newspapers at Sunday's "Third Way" summit conference in Florence, where the leaders of the United States, Brazil, and various European countries vainly sought a common political platform for the world's parties of the center-left. They were not very kind about her. La Repubblica of Rome said Monday that she failed to make a widely anticipated speech because she has made so many gaffes lately and that her decision to sit in on the conference as a nonparticipant resulted in a special program for the leaders' wives being canceled "at the last moment with zero warning and zero courtesy." Corriere della Sera of Milan said Clinton was upstaged by the pregnant Cherie Blair, wife of British Prime Minister Tony Blair. "It was to have been Hillary's triumph, her consecration as the superstar of the first ladies, her takeoff point for the New York seat in the United States Senate," the paper said. "Instead, Hillary's star was obscured twice yesterday: first on the Florentine stage by Cherie Blair, who with her pregnancy became the protagonist of the Third Way conference, and second in the New York electoral college where a Democratic member of the city council, Ronnie Eldridge, declared in a loud voice what many think but have till now only murmured--that the first lady should withdraw her candidacy." Corriere also ran a story about visits by Hillary and Chelsea Clinton and Madeleine Albright to a market of Italian luxury goods held in the foyer of Florence's Excelsior Hotel. The headline was "Miss Albright cannot resist Florentine jewels." It said the secretary of state much admired a white linen tablecloth but rejected it on learning its price was about $2,500. She then bought three purses and a candle before arriving at the jewelry stand. "They gave her a discount, but the most powerful woman in the world knows how to value the weight and the worth of things," the paper said. "Before signing for the purchase of a choker, she weighed it against the bracelet she was wearing on her wrist: It is three times as heavy as the choker." On the substance of the summit, Corriere noted in an editorial "the profoundly different realities" of the United States and Britain on the one hand and continental Europe on the other. The arduous search for common policies to reconcile the "solidaristic" social values of the left-wing parties of the continent with the rules of the free market will continue long after Florence, the paper said. While Corriere reported President Bill Clinton urging everyone to imitate the American model, La Repubblica highlighted a speech by France's socialist Prime Minister Lionel Jospin, a Third Way skeptic, in which he denounced U.S. retention of the death penalty. "We must be irreproachable in raising the problem of human rights in developing countries by defending them with great rigor in our own," Jospin said. "And for this I would like to see the death penalty disappear in all democracies." One issue preoccupying the British press Monday was where Tony and Cherie Blair's forthcoming baby was conceived--was it in Tuscany or in France during their summer vacation? Fending off questions about this in an interview with La Repubblica, Tony Blair admitted that he thought it would be a "British baby." Fevered study of the diaries of the prime minister and his wife led most British papers to conclude that their fourth child, due next May when Cherie will be three months short of 46 years old, must have been conceived while the couple were staying with Queen Elizabeth II at Balmoral, her Scottish castle. The tabloid Daily Mirror even published a photograph Monday of the bedroom in which it claimed the conception had taken place. Far the biggest story in Britain, however, was the disgrace of millionaire novelist Lord Jeffrey Archer, who was forced to resign at the weekend as the chosen Conservative Party candidate for mayor of London after being exposed in the Mirror for using a false alibi in a libel action 12 years ago. Archer won about $750,000 in damages against tabloid newspaper the Daily Star after it alleged that he had consorted with a prostitute. Archer now faces possible criminal charges after admitting to getting a friend to lie that they had dined together in a restaurant on one of the evenings in question. In editorials Monday, almost all newspapers sharply criticized Conservative Party leader William Hague for supporting Archer's candidacy and praising his probity despite the novelist's controversial past and warnings that he had further skeletons in his closet. As China's successful launch into orbit of its Shenzhou spacecraft received saturation coverage in the state-controlled Chinese press, a Chinese military expert told the China Business Times that the test had major military implications. Song Yichang
[CTRL] Prophets Galore: Can even one tell us what a City of God would be like?
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 2:19 PM Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] City of God...What Would It Be Like? Dear Frontline: I watched your program on "How I Learned to love the Apocalypse and Stop Worrying." Certainly people like Hagee love the Apocalypse as it makes a lot of money for them. Perhaps Governments could get in on the business and run a lottery on the time and date of the Apocalypse in order to balance their budgets. Pardon my sarcasm but your web site does invite feedback and of course you are welcome to post this reply with the others on http://www.pbs.org. More importantly though I would appreciate it if you would ask the "experts" out there for their reply to my question which is "What would a CITY OF GOD be like if built now on this planet?" During your two hour program you referred to the work of St. Augustine on the "City of God" as an entity built up in heaven by the True Church. However, if I remember my graduate course in psch history correctly, Augustine was more than a reclusive Churchocrat. He was also a Roman Administrator in North Africa (perhaps in what is called Libya today) when the Old Empire was collapsing and the barbarians were invading. Thus he had to apply what he knew of that City of God to daily affairs. If there is only one Believer in that City of God left in a barbarian culture/society/nation then you aren't going to get the full expression of what we usually call a "city" or complete culture or civilization or society. That one believer is still obliged to live as Godly a lifestyle as possible under such circumstances. However, if Augustine had had the opportunity and resources he would have built an entire city/culture/nation according to the design of that City of God or as close to it as fallible humans can come. In fact that is what happened in the centuries after Augustine. Dozens of professedly Godly Societies calling themselves Christian, Muslim and Jewish developed around the Mediterranean. Some of those societies may have been better expressions of a "City of God" than others. Some may have been utter failures in that respect. However, the attempt is necessary as "Faith without works is dead." All through that time of developing "Godly Societies" as people understood this collective manifestation of God's grace in this world, there have been many doom-sayers and that is how your show brought in the teachings of Augustine. That is, humankind's obligation is to practice a Godly lifestyle, individually and collectively, subjectively and objectively, spiritually and materiallyirrespective of what is happening in this world. If the sky is falling we are still obligated to practice the teachings of a City of God. Putting all that together we would have a City of God manifested on earth if there are those on this planet who understand what it is. Are there? That is my question to your experts. If people like John Hagee and Jerry Falwell (who appeared briefly on your show) were honest they would admit that interpreting highly symbolic prophetic sections of Scripture is a difficult task fraught with the possibility of error. By contrast, O' how dogmatically certain they are! Then they flee the light of truth which would come from Internet interaction and discussion like cockroaches flee the light. Try a Yahoo search on them and see what you get. Like their performances on television their web sites are a one way street for the "pitch" and the other way all that is supposed to happen is the flow of money into their coffers. I read on Pat Roberston's http://www.cbn.org that "Pat Answers Your Email Questions". This is part of the lie-for-profit which is practiced by people like Roberston, Falwell, Dobson, Hagee, Van Impe, Grahams (now with a Junior Liar as well as a Senior Liar) etc. etc. Pat Robertson wrote to me ca. 1990 and personally signed the letter to say that even if it guaranteed him the US Presidency in 2000 AD, he would not want to plan a City of God on this earth. (You will recall that he had sought the Presidency in an earlier campaign). But I'm not singling out Pat Robertson. This is a cabal of criminal racketeers exploiting the US public in contravention of RICO Laws (Racketeering in Corrupt Organizations) and defiling the teachings of God. If they were competent they would be able to tell you about a City of God as surely as a competent dentist would tell you about a healthy tooth vs. an unhealthy tooth. So ask them. And ask Vatican while you are at it.
Re: [CTRL] Prophets Galore: Can even one tell us what a City of God would be like?
-Caveat Lector- Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 2:19 PM Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] City of God...What Would It Be Like? snip That is where we stand today. Chretien, Manning and other lying, hypocritical God-hating politicians lead Canada straight into hell by opening the doors to barbarians from the four corners of the earth in the name of "Multiculturalism" without knowing or caring what a Godly Society would be like. Filthy child-murdering, sodomite-loving Christ haters and their boot lickers abound in the halls of political power. Frankly, I find whoever wrote this scarier than all the Canadian politicans put together. Kelly DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (Fwd) [BRIGADE] PJB - Castro - WTO
-Caveat Lector- --- Forwarded Message Follows --- From: "Linda Muller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:31:47 -0500 Subject:[BRIGADE] PJB - Castro - WTO Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Brigade, Did I tell you Pat is going to Seattle to protest the WTO? Soon as I have details (if I ever get them) I'll pass them on. I know thousands of Brigade members will be out there too -- I hope all of you can hook up with PJB. Below is a column I found on Castro attending the WTO meeting and also an email from Bill Hawkins on the US Chamber of Commerce promoting Castro's visit. GO PAT GO! Linda PS - This is an excellent website for you to find out more about the Seattle WTO meeting and the WTO issue: http://www.citizen.org/pctrade/gattwto/seattle/seattle.html - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:25:26 EST Subject:Castro Invited by Business for WTO Meet To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linda: I just got a copy of a U.S. Chamber of Commerce invitation to attend a "business forum" with Fidel Castro during the Seattle WTO meeting, Dec. 2 in the Winward Room of the Seattle Hilton Hotel, from 2-4 pm. The event is heralded "Trade in the 21st Century." The heading reads "The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is Honored to Host a Business Forum with President Fidel Castro (invited) and the Cuban Trade Delegation to the WTO Ministerial." Catch that word "Honored" applied to meeting a mass murdering Marxist dictator! Anything for a buck, that's our wonderful Chamber of Commerce. I checked their website, but this is not listed on their "events" calendar, so perhaps they don't want this to get around. There is no fee to register. Contact name is given as Amy Sandell at (202) 463-3173. You are requested to register before Thanksgiving. Maybe they can play a parlor game at the meeting based on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" (or given the audience, perhaps Billionaire would be more appropriate)How many thousands of people did Castro order shot by firing squad when he took power? How many troops did Castro send to fight for Soviet causes in Africa? On what biological weapons projects are Castro and the Chinese working together at facilities in Cuba? How much money do Chamber members think they can make by helping Castro stay in power? --William Hawkins Washington, DC -- November 23, 1999 - Seattle Times Castro in Seattle? Everyone plans on it by Jack Broom and Roberto Sanchez Seattle Times staff reporters Only one person knows for sure whether Cuban President Fidel Castro will come to the World Trade Organization meeting next week, and that's Castro. But everybody else is acting as if Cuba's communist leader is coming, including the U.S. State Department, Seattle police, University of Washington officials and area religious leaders. Even Cuban exile groups in Miami are planning to come to Seattle with banners, legal challenges and perhaps a blimp to protest his visit. "I am sure that he will not arrive to Seattle without a protest by Cuban exiles," said Ninoska Perez, spokeswoman for the Fundacion Nacional Cubano Americana, an anti-Castro group. "Seattle is a bit far away, and our time is short," said Ramon Saul Sanchez, president of Movimiento Democracia, a Cuban-exile group that organizes flotilla demonstrations to the edge of Cuban waters. "Right now, our intention is to be present. . . . We're thinking about bringing a blimp, not a gigantic one, with a message about human-rights violations." Castro will be welcomed to Seattle - if he comes - by a committee sponsored by the Church Council of Greater Seattle. Among events in the works are appearances at two churches and the UW. "Wherever there is a possibility of him going, all the preparations are being made," said Doug Barnes of the Seattle Committee to Welcome the Cuban Delegation. As of this morning, Castro had not yet applied for a visa to visit the United States. State Department officials refused to speculate on what factors would be taken into account if he does. "We don't make visa decisions in advance of an application," said a State Department spokesman who asked not to be identified. "If and when President Castro applies, his application will be considered according with U.S. law, and a decision will be made at that time." Meanwhile, the hosts to the Cuban delegation to the World Trade Organization are acting as if Castro is coming. UW planning a Castro speech David Fenner, director of international programs and exchanges at the University of Washington, said the UW is accepting student and faculty requests for tickets to a planned Dec. 2 speech by Castro at Meany Hall. He said the Secret Service would manage security for the event, which would
[CTRL] Criminalising Dissent
-Caveat Lector- Via http://www.lewrockwell.com/ From http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/12-06-99/vo15no24_dissent.htm {{Begin}} Vol. 15, No. 25 December 6, 1999 Table of Contents Criminalizing Dissent by William Norman Grigg The FBIs Project Megiddo, which warns against millennial terrorism, paints constitutionalists, devout Christians, hate groups, and militias with the same broad strokes. Project Megiddo, the FBIs "strategic assessment" of potential millennium- related domestic terrorism, represents a significant victory in the radical lefts "long march through the institutions" of U.S. law enforcement. The report, which was unveiled on November 2nd at a conference of the International Association of Chiefs of Police at Charlotte, North Carolina, has been distributed to law enforcement agencies nationwide. While no author is mentioned in the publicly available version of Project Megiddo, its contents are largely indistinguishable from the materials generated by leftist "watchdog" organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which regularly furnish law enforcement agencies with lurid reports intended to catechize law enforcement agencies about the supposed threat posed by the "radical right." This fact was not lost upon John Foster "Chip" Berlet of Political Research Associates (PRA), a Marxist pressure group based in Boston. Berlets vita includes such distinctions as his role in founding the "Chicago Area Friends of Albania," a stint as contributing writer for the drug culture periodical High Times, and participation in numerous Communist front groups, including the National Lawyers Guild. In a November 1st e-mail message to the "Militia Watchdog" mailing list (a restricted list whose membership includes law enforcement and military personnel), Berlet complained that the FBIs Megiddo report "recapitulate[s] previously released reports and conference papers" from both the PRA and the SPLC, among other sources. To his credit, Berlet correctly pointed out that "the way the Megiddo report has been leaked creates a hysterical atmosphere where law enforcement is likely to overreact. Because of superficial reporting, the public is learning to lump together hate groups, militias, terrorists, and devout Christians." As one of the "experts" on "right-wing extremism" frequently consulted by both the media and law enforcement officials, Berlet has done a great deal to advance the notion that Christian conservatives and constitutionalists occupy the same continuum as terrorists and hate groups. Thus Berlets objections should be viewed not as an illustration of his reasonableness, but rather of the FBIs radicalism. Megiddo Genesis During a May 13, 1997 Senate Appropriations Committee hearing on terrorism, FBI Director Louis Freeh disclosed the existence of Presidential Decision Directive 39, which designated the FBI the "lead agency" for counter-terrorism efforts. Freeh also explained that the FBIs new counter-terrorism center "contains representatives of 16 other federal agencies and is dedicated for the first time to a central collection [or] analytical point in the federal government for threats, particularly those regarding domestic terrorism." During the same hearing, as reported in these pages more than two years ago, Freeh stipulated that the chief domestic terror threat emanates from "various individuals, as well as organizations," who possess "an ideology which suspects government and particularly the federal government, of world-order conspiracies individuals who, for various reasons, have organized themselves against the United States." Possession of "ideologies inconsistent with principles of federal government," declared Freeh, could be construed as a marker of criminal or terrorist intentions. While the Megiddo report is clearly a product of the FBIs counter-terrorism center, there are strong indications that the State and Local Anti-Terrorism Training (SLATT) program was involved as well. As THE NEW AMERICAN recently reported, SLATT is funded, through the Institute for Intergovernmental Research (IIR), by a grant from the Justice Departments Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA). The SLATT program is an outgrowth of the 1996 post-OKC bombing anti- terrorism act; its purpose is to provide "anti-terrorism preparedness training" to state and local police agencies, including "pre-incident awareness" training to help identify potential terrorist threats. Documents obtained by THE NEW AMERICAN under a Freedom of Information Act request suggest that SLATT may have played a substantial role in composing Megiddo. IIRs 1998 proposal for the "continuation and expansion" of the SLATT program states that the programs main purposes include providing "state and local law enforcement [with] a general awareness and working knowledge of domestic terrorist and political extremist movements (including ideologies, illegal activities,
[CTRL] In search of Freedom
-Caveat Lector- Big Business has permeated every aspect of society with its twisted manipulations. "It is my estimation that Big Business not only capitalizes on our fears, but also creates them and takes steps to keep them fresh in our minds." A Science of Manipulation is being used against the American Public. I intend to fight this kind of manipulation and inform as many people as I can of it along the way... Let us make it illegal for profit modivated groups to influence mass media. I have the profoundest belief in Human Ability. It is through individual efforts that we will know mental freedom as well as physical freedom. Those of our brothers and sisters who fought and died in the Wars to preserve our Freedom did not fight and die for a half-freedom. They fought and died for a Whole Freedom. TOXIC SLUDGE IS GOOD FOR YOU by John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton That book goes a long way in revealing just how dangerous this kind of manipultion is. You can check it out at a Public Library. The book is also cataloged in the Library of Congress under corrupt practices. To know my views on this kind of manipulation drawn from experience, insight,and my belief in God-surf on in Journals of a Concerned Citizen [http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/7940] KEEP THE DRIVE ALIVE Plz fwd to friends God Bless DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: :Bilderberg
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Dejan Mihajlovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: SN596:Bilderberg BILBERBERG GROUP SECRET MINUTES REVEALED by David Icke --- - The British publication, The Big Issue, which is sold on the streets by unemployed people, claims to have been leaked minutes from this year's meeting of the Bilderberg Group which took place in Portugal. Here is their report with my comments in parenthesis. Title: 'Bilderberg': Secret Minutes Revealed for the first time in 50 years Date: 15 NOV '99 Author: Gibby Zobel Source: The Big Issue, London For nearly 50 years an elite group of the West's most powerful men and women, including Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, has met in secret. Today The Big Issue can reveal for the first time the confidential minutes The Bilderberg Papers of what some commentators have called a shadow world government. The clandestine meetings do not make policy, yet directly inform the thinking of world leaders. This years meeting took place in June under armed guard at the exclusive Caesar Park Hotel, Penha Longa, Portugal. Northern Ireland secretary of state Peter Mandelson, Conservative MP Kenneth Clarke, and environmentalist Jonathon Porritt attended and mixed with presidents, chairmen of multinational companies, world bankers, Nato chiefs and defence ministers. The 64-page leaked document reveals the group was advised that after Kosovo, Russia now has carte blanche to intervene in Chechnya. Nato will not bomb Moscow if Russia invades Chechnya. Two hundred thousand Chechens have been forced to flee their homes since Russia began bombing last month. Last week the Clinton administration accused Russia of breaking international law. But the minutes make clear that world leaders are operating in an environment where international law has become obsolete and where Nato is in danger of effectively becoming a colonial power. In another debate, How Durable is the Current Rosy Complexion of European Politics?, Britain's cuts in welfare were put into sharp context. The new Left, argued one Briton, was consolidating the victories of the Right. The electoral failures of the Right had largely been self-inflicted, and the Left may well prove to be better at reforming the welfare state. With 17 million unemployed, it might be easier for somebody who claimed to be a socialist to impose change. Welfare, one panellist thought, would be the Red man's burden. Governments had to think like business people. But not every socialist government in Europe has bitten the bullet the group talked of Germany, France and Italy's lack of guts for welfare cuts. (THE CREATION OF THE "WELFARE STATE" TO CREATE DEPENDENCY AND THEN THE DESTRUCTION OF THAT WELFARE STRUCTURE TO LEAVE PEOPLE HELPLESS AND FORCED TO DO WHATEVER THEY ARE TOLD TO SURVIVE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE KEY PLANS OF THE ILLUMINATI IN THE 2OTH CENTURY. TONY BLAIR, THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER AND BILDERBERG PUPPET, HAS BEEN PUT IN THERE TO DO JUST THAT. IT IS ALSO A WELL TESTED TECHNIQUE TO USE "SOCIALIST" PARTIES WITH AN IMAGE OF "CARING FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN" TO INTRODUCE THESE CHANGES WHICH RIGHT-LEANING PARTIES WITH AN IMAGE FOR NOT CARING FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN, WOULD NOT GET AWAY WITH.) Governments fear of social unrest was the major reason for lack of action. As a British panellist noted: Things would only change when the cost of not doing anything really did seem larger than that of doing something. Most of the group thought the new European Left was just a genetically modified version of the old one. It is simply a rotation of power, said one German. In many cases the real power lies with central banks. This idea was given greater emphasis by discussions about the introduction of dollarisation. The Bilderberg papers reveal: - Nato has given Russia carte blanche to intervene in Chechnya - After the euro, a global currency dollarisation may be the next step - Post-Kosovo, Nato is in danger of mimicking a colonial empire - Its easier to cut welfare benefits if you call yourself a socialist HIDDEN AGENDA - FEATURE In the first of a two-part series, Gibby Zobel uncovers how the global power elite decides our future at the shadowy Bilderberg Summit each year. Documents from the secret summit - leaked to The Big Issue - reveal what they said about money and war. For nearly 50 years an elite group of the West's most powerful men and women, a shadow world government, have met in secret. Tony Blair is in the club. Every US
[CTRL] 10 Reasons to Dismantle the WTO
-Caveat Lector- 10 Reasons to Dismantle the WTO By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Add a new constituency to the long list of World Trade Organization (WTO) critics which already includes consumers, labor, environmentalists, human rights activists, fair trade groups, AIDS activists, animal protection organizations, those concerned with Third World development, religious communities, women's organizations. The latest set of critics includes WTO backers and even the WTO itself. As the WTO faces crystallized global opposition -- to be manifested in massive street demonstrations and colorful protests in Seattle, where the WTO will hold its Third Ministerial meeting from November 30 to December 3 -- the global trade agency and its strongest proponents veer between a shrill defensiveness and the much more effective strategy of admitting shortcomings and trumpeting the need for reform. WTO critics now face a perilous moment. They must not be distracted by illusory or cosmetic reform proposals, nor by even more substantive proposals for changing the WTO -- should they ever emerge from the institution or its powerful rich country members. Instead, they should unite around an uncompromising demand to dismantle the WTO and its corporate-created rules. Here are 10 reasons why: 1. The WTO prioritizes trade and commercial considerations over all other values. WTO rules generally require domestic laws, rules and regulations designed to further worker, consumer, environmental, health, safety, human rights, animal protection or other non-commercial interests to be undertaken in the "least trade restrictive" fashion possible -- almost never is trade subordinated to these noncommercial concerns. 2. The WTO undermines democracy. Its rules drastically shrink the choices available to democratically controlled governments, with violations potentially punished with harsh penalties. The WTO actually touts this overriding of domestic decisions about how economies should be organized and corporations controlled. "Under WTO rules, once a commitment has been made to liberalize a sector of trade, it is difficult to reverse," the WTO says in a paper on the benefits of the organization which is published on its web site. "Quite often, governments use the WTO as a welcome external constraint on their policies: 'we can't do this because it would violate the WTO agreements.'" 3. The WTO does not just regulate, it actively promotes, global trade. Its rules are biased to facilitate global commerce at the expense of efforts to promote local economic development and policies that move communities, countries and regions in the direction of greater self-reliance. 4. The WTO hurts the Third World. WTO rules force Third World countries to open their markets to rich country multinationals, and abandon efforts to protect infant domestic industries. In agriculture, the opening to foreign imports, soon to be imposed on developing countries, will catalyze a massive social dislocation of many millions of rural people. 5. The WTO eviscerates the Precautionary Principle. WTO rules generally block countries from acting in response to potential risk -- requiring a probability before governments can move to resolve harms to human health or the environment. 6. The WTO squashes diversity. WTO rules establish international health, environmental and other standards as a global ceiling through a process of "harmonization;" countries or even states and cities can only exceed them by overcoming high hurdles. 7. The WTO operates in secrecy. Its tribunals rule on the "legality" of nations' laws, but carry out their work behind closed doors. 8. The WTO limits governments' ability to use their purchasing dollar for human rights, environmental, worker rights and other non-commercial purposes. In general, WTO rules state that governments can make purchases based only on quality and cost considerations. 9. The WTO disallows bans on imports of goods made with child labor. In general, WTO rules do not allow countries to treat products differently based on how they were produced -- irrespective of whether made with brutalized child labor, with workers exposed to toxics or with no regard for species protection. 10. The WTO legitimizes life patents. WTO rules permit and in some cases require patents or similar exclusive protections for life forms. Some of these problems, such as the WTO's penchant for secrecy, could potentially be fixed, but the core problems -- prioritization of commercial over other values, the constraints on democratic decision-making and the bias against local economies -- cannot, for they are inherent in the WTO itself. Because of these unfixable problems, the World Trade Organization should be shut down, sooner rather than later. That doesn't mean interim steps shouldn't be taken. It does mean that beneficial reforms will focus not on adding new areas of competence to the WTO or enhancing its authority, even if the new areas
[CTRL] OEN 11/23/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Fin-de-Siecle Fed Sells Y2K Liquidity Options Just in case you run out of money--have we got a deal for you. The New York Federal Reserve has sold almost $370bn in "liquidity options" to leading banks in an effort to quell panic about the millennium bug. Bankers said the popularity of the options, which offer buyers insurance against the possibility that markets could dry up because of Y2K problems, had already eased fears about the bug. The New York Fed, which conducts open market operations on behalf of the US Federal Reserve in Washington, said it is planning further auctions of liquidity options in the next few weeks. The Fed's unprecedented venture into options sales has turned it into one of the biggest derivatives dealers in the world - an unaccustomed role for the guardian of US monetary stability. The liquidity options are especially popular with marketmakers, because they assure their funding even if financial markets should suddenly dry up over the end of the year. "The markets were expecting liquidity to get progressively worse as the millennium approached, but liquidity has improved in the past two weeks," said Avinash Persaud, head of global research at State Street Bank. "Part of this can be attributed to the success of the Fed's liquidity options." The options, which are legitimate for five days and encompass three five-day periods starting December 23, December 30 and January 6, give the holder the right to access cash from the Fed at a "strike" price of 150 basis points over the Fed funds rate. This means the options would be exercised if liquidity dried up to such an extent that it was only available from the normal inter-bank market at a higher spread than 150 basis points over the Fed funds rate. Bankers say that the popularity of the options combined with the Fed's decision to expand the pool of collateral available to the market to borrow money from its discount window had significantly eased fears of a liquidity crunch over the millennium. "We believe the markets have understood our message that we want the transition to the new millennium to be as smooth as possible," said an official at the Fed in New York. Concerns have also been eased by the belief in bond markets that there is little possibility that the Federal Reserve and the European central banks will raise interest rates in the near future. The Fed and other central banks have printed additional supplies of banknotes in case of a rush by individuals to hold cash over the new year. The Financial Times, November 23, 1999 Oil Market Iraq Embargo Drives Oil Price to 9-Year High More New World Disorder. World oil prices leapt to a nine-year high yesterday after Iraq began implementing a weekend threat to halt 2.2m barrels a day of exports under the United Nations oil-for-food programme. The Iraqi move appeared to be intended to exploit divisions in the UN security council over the international community's sanctions regime imposed on Iraq after its 1990 invasion of Kuwait. It came as security council members negotiated ways to relax mandatory sanctions on Iraq in exchange for Baghdad agreeing to a new arms control regime. The US and Britain have argued that any easing of sanctions should only go ahead after Baghdad has demonstrated that it will co-operate with UN arms inspectors. France, Russia and China have advocated a more relaxed approach. In London, oil prices opened at $25.90 a barrel, the highest level since the 1991 Gulf War, after Amir Mohammed Rasheed, Iraq's oil minister, confirmed that Baghdad would not agree to a proposed two-week extension of the current phase of a programme under which Iraq is allowed to export oil to fund food and medicine imports. In late trading the January futures contract for Brent oil, an international price benchmark, was quoted at $25.58 a barrel, 51 cents up on Friday's close. The Iraqi decision highlighted Baghdad's ability to disrupt world oil markets in spite of the tight sanctions regime. Diplomats pointed out that until Baghdad made its surprise announcement on Saturday, Iraq had been working normally with UN staff on details of a new, seventh, six-month phase of the oil-for-food programme, due to start shortly. Under the programme Iraq is allowed to sell $5.2bn worth of oil every six months. Kofi Annan, the UN secretary-general, yesterday expressed optimism that a way would be found to defuse the latest crisis over sanctions. The security council is trying to agree on a new sanctions package that would allow for foreign investment in Iraq's oil industry, while ensuring that the arms embargo stayed. Madeleine Albright, the US secretary of state, said Iraq had once again "shown its true colours . . . by turning down the possibility of having more food and medicine for its people by selling more oil". A
[CTRL] Confused Snow Geese
-Caveat Lector- Just another observation from another list.. Peter From: m guzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] One more item before I close down this machine for the day. I just ran outside to watch thousands of Snow Geese overhead; they have been gathering in huge, noisy flocks on a nearby lake. They are supposed to be migrating south (late at that, due to the long warm spell) but today they are flying in every direction as if in total confusion. Long v's start off one way then arc about and fly off at 90 degrees then turn again while other lines criss-cross them and yet more lines circle through those and still more lines move randomly through them... I have watched migrating birds for many years and have never witnessed such a chaotic pattern, or lack of it. Can any of you experts tell me if something is going on with Earth's magnetic field? We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Y2K Movie Tonight
-Caveat Lector- Could they actually bring it about? I think so. I think not. However they could certainly raise some local hell where they strike. For details, see: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/5.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Analysis: The Russian Military: In Bad Shape?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Analysis: The Russian Military: In Bad Shape? Col. Stanislav Lunev November 23, 1999 On October 25 Nikolai Mikhailov, first deputy defense minister of the RF (Russian Federation), shocked the international community by his strong statements to the press. At a time when the RF is still in dire economic straits, dependent on Western money for its very survival, Mikhailov warned that his countryâs military has enough weaponry to overwhelm any antiballistic-missile system in the US. He warned further that the RF will deploy more nuclear warheads if the U.S. continues its efforts to develop an anti-missile defense system. Mikhailov stated categorically, "This technology can realistically be used and will be used if the United States pushes us to it." The US reaction to these words came from Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright. In her speech to the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations (November 10) she disclosed, "A Russian defense official recently proclaimed that his nation has the ability to overwhelm the missile defense system we are planning." "[T]hat is true â and part of our point," she added. These statements run counter to the standard reports in the US about the supposed deterioration of the Russian military and its demise as a major threat to the international community. Evidently the US media have been negligent in investigating the true state of the Russian war machine. Mr. Mikhailov, however, is an expert in these matters. Before his appointment as RF deputy defense minister he had spent 35 years working in both the Soviet and Russian military-industrial complexes. He has inside knowledge, then, that the Russian defense industry is accelerating its buildup of a new generation of weapons systems. Mikhailov, after all, is a primary mover behind the Russian General Staffâs plan to implement the new ten-year arms-development program for completion by 2010. The Russian military has already begun operational deployment of the second-generation mobile-launch-based Topol-M ICBM, a weapon the US does not possess and also has not yet allocated funds to develop. The Russian VPK (Voenno Promishlenni Komplex â Military Industrial Complex) has also introduced a new generation of nuclear warheads as well as a new stealth bomber and a stealth cruise missile â which could reach US territory over the Polar Circle. As further examples, the RF has under construction (1) the fifth-generation Borei-class ballistic-missile submarine, (2) a new submarine-based ballistic missile, (3) the Akula-2-class nuclear attack submarine (Shark), and (4) the new Severodvinsk-class nuclear attack submarine. The VPK is likewise continuing to modernize its army, navy and air force, not to mention further developing chemical, biological, nuclear, and other types of mass-destruction weapons. The list of Russian weaponry could be extended many pages. Some of the new weapons do not have any counterparts in the arsenals of the West. According to the Russian General Staff these programs are to be in place by 2010 so that Moscow can regain the former stature of the USSR. Russia is determined to gain pre-eminence in unique nuclear and laser technologies for new types of systems. With the war in Chechnya, Russian military spending has increased about 1.5 times; and the increases are expected to continue. The Russian General Staff is requesting a gradual increase in military expenditures from 2.8 percent of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) in 1999 to between 6 and 6.5 percent by 2005. The war in Chechnya has led also to an increase in military and special-services personnel, especially in the number and quality of the ground forces, which had been lacking in well trained professionals. During the last few months the Russian units in Chechnya have received new weaponry in such quantities as to represent a violation of the CFET (Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty). Obviously, the RF does not need state-of-the-art weapons systems for the military action in Chechnya. They are ultimately intended for future full-scale wars against countries considered by the Russian General Staff to be "major potential military adversaries." This intention is clear from recent "West-99" field exercises, the largest since 1985, during which Russian military commanders ordered simulated nuclear strikes against NATO countries, including the continental United States. This intention is also evident in a recent statement of RF Defense Minister Igor Sergeev, who on November 12 accused the United States of stirring up the war in Chechnya as part of a plot to weaken its former superpower adversary. He is quoted as saying, "U.S. national interests require that the military conflict in the North Caucasus, fanned from the outside, keeps constantly smoldering." It is interesting to note here that Sergeev didn't speak about fighting against "international
[CTRL] Chechnya Reiteration of Tragedy
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Chechnya â Reiteration of Tragedy Col. Stanislav Lunev November 2, 1999 There is yet another new and dangerous development in "democratic" Russia. In the aftermath of recent events in Dagestan, RF (Russian Federation) troops have once more invaded the Republic of Chechnya in the Northern Caucasus, where RF warplanes are daily bombing the small breakaway republic as part of a plan to turn it into a "sanitized" zone, as the expression goes. Hiding behind popular slogans about fighting "international terrorism," RF authorities have determined to destroy Chechnya's government and infrastructure including its cities and towns. The number of fatalities in the civilian population already counts in the thousands, and the number of refugees is estimated at hundreds of thousands. RF leaders refuse to recognize the Chechen government as legitimate and recognize in its place the newly organized Chechen State Council, formed in 1996 by Russian authorities and consisting of a pro-Russian Chechen parliament. As Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has stated, Russia will only acknowledge as legitimate this little-known group of Chechen parliamentarians currently exiled in Moscow. Taking advantage of an opening in Chechen defenses, the Russian military ordered troops into Chechnya â and in such great numbers that it violated the Conventional Forces in Europe (CFE) agreement. This is just one of the many examples of Moscow's contempt for treaties and other international agreements when its own interests are concerned. Few in the West seem willing to learn from past lessons. Using the political climate created by events in Chechnya, the RF National Security Council, in early October, began to reconsider its "Main Concept" doctrine. According to the Main Concept doctrine, the Russian military will reserve the right to use nuclear weapons whenever conventional weapons prove ineffective. The RF government is also requesting parliament to increase the military budget to 1.5 of its present size. In reality, the conflict in the Northern Caucasus constitutes a full-scale war. Many experts predict it will be especially barbaric as well as very damaging to the RF itself. They are expecting the same counterproductive outcome as the 1995-96 war with Chechnya. This isn't because of the lack of training or skill in guerrilla warfare by the RF Army but because of the lack of popular support for renewed devastation in a region that still hasn't recovered from the previous war. The real "justification," the hidden agenda behind this action, is to keep Yeltsin and his "Family" of thugs in power. Otherwise, after the coming election, they may find themselves behind bars. The Family will try to forestall the elections by declaring a state of emergency in order to keep themselves in the Kremlin. They know that the populace is deathly sick of them and of their drunken, half-crazed leader, Boris Yeltsin. Last month Konstantin Borovoi, the State Duma deputy, claimed that a Russian military- intelligence officer had given him advance warning of the impending wave of terrorist bombings in Russian cities. Borovoi speculated that the Russian authorities might themselves have been responsible since they had an interest in provoking further instability in Chechnya. On September 29, Russian TV (Channel ORT) quoted an unidentified Russian politician â possibly the well-known governor of Krasnojarsk Oblast, General Lebed â as strongly suspecting that the bombings in Russian cities are connected with events in Dagestan and were organized by high- ranking Russian officials. This politician likewise concludes that these leaders are trying to stay in power by creating mass fear in order to have an excuse to suspend elections. RF Prime Minister Vladimir Putin immediately countered these allegations by denying they were made by General Lebed and called them "total delirium." But Putin is a pawn in the Family's game of musical chairs with the Russian prime ministry. He is being used to serve Family interests and may be unaware of the real plans and intentions of the Kremlin bosses. What other reason is there to explain why Alesandr Voloshin met well-known terrorist Shamil Basayev in France exactly one month before the terrorist attacks in Dagestan? After all, Basayev has been officially outlawed as an "international terrorist" and is wanted also by Interpol. The Russian press (Segodnya) reported that Voloshin, a Berzovsky protégé, had met in secret with Chechen rebel leader Basayev just prior to the Muslim uprising in Dagestan. Mr. Berzovsky, who is financial advisor to Yeltsin's Family and guardian of its enormous wealth, presented a "little gift" of $2 million in cash to Shamil Basayev, who later confessed receipt of the gift before the Islamic Shariat Court. Another Russian newspaper (Sovershenno Secretno, #9, '99) reported that the
[CTRL] Biography of Colonel Stanislav Lunev
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Biography of Colonel Stanislav Lunev STANISLAV LUNEV BIOGRAPHY HIGHLIGHTS Colonel Stanislav Lunev is the highest-ranking military officer ever to defect from Russia to the United States. Col. Lunev defected in 1992, after Boris Yeltsin came to power. Lunevâs information to the CIA, DIA, FBI and other national security agencies was deemed so vital, he was placed in the FBIâs Witness Protection Program. As one of Russiaâs top GRU agents in America, Lunev was involved in making Russian war plans against America, as well as ferreting out American military secrets. Some of Lunevâs information was revealed in the 1997 bestseller "Through the Eyes of the Enemyâ(Regnery). Among many revelations, Lunev reported that Russia is preparing a surprise nuclear attack against America. Lunevâs credentials are impeccable. Born in Leningrad in 1946 to the family of a Soviet Army listed officer, he was later raised in the Sochi/Black Sea resort area. As a youth, Lunev was recruited for an elite military academy, the the Suvharov Military School in Vladikavkaz, Northern Caucasus. In 1964, Lunev began studies at the Joint Arms High Command Military Academy, the Soviet equivalent of the U.S. Army West Point Academy, with civilian specialization in math and physics. As a young officer, Lunev began regular military service in the Southern Group of Soviet Armed Forces, Hungary. He was promoted to Group Commander, Platoon Commander and Company Commander in a Deep-Reconnaissance Company, a special operartions force. In 1971 Lunev entered Moscowâs Military Political Academy Law School, where he graduated with honors in 1975. Between 1975-1978 received specialized intelligence training in the GRU's Military-Diplomatic Academy. As his first field assignment in the GRU, Lunev was sent in 1978 to Singapore under civilian cover as a student at Nanyang University, University of Southern Seas. In 1979 he returned to Moscow as a GRU Operational Officer, assigned to the First Special GRU's Sub-Directorate, only one military unit authorized for the recruitment of foreigners inside Russia. In 1980, Lunev began assignment in China as a spy, claiming to be a TASS journalist. From 1983 until 1988, Col. Lunev was the GRU Operational Officer in the First Special GRU's Sub-Directorate under cover as a TASS Correspondent. In 1988 Col. Lunev was assigned to the GRU Field Office in Washington, D.C. as a GRU Intelligence Officer. In 1992 he defected to U.S. authorities. During his time with the GRU, Col. Lunev was awarded dozens of Soviet Military Awards. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] China Points More Missiles at Taiwan
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! China Points More Missiles at Taiwan NewsMax.com November 23, 1999 Communist China is tightening its military and psychological pressure on Taiwan, aiming nearly 100 more deadly missiles at the little island across the Formosa Strait. To accommodate those additional rockets, the Chinese People's Liberation Army is expanding its missile base at Yangang, only 275 miles from Taiwan, which China is determined to bring back under its control. United States spy satellites discovered the new construction work in progress a month ago, according to the Washington Times, which said the expanded base will house the latest Chinese missiles, capable of delivering small nuclear warheads 300 miles. Through espionage, China has obtained top-secret U.S. technology for building just such a small nuclear warhead. China's relatively short-range missiles were displayed for the first time Oct. 1 in Beijing at a Communist Party celebration of the 50th anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China. Although these missiles can carry nuclear tips, Pentagon officials said they will be armed with non-nuclear ordnance, including deep-penetrating warheads for use against concrete bunkers, anti-personnel cluster bombs and electromagnetic-pulse devices that disrupt electronic equipment, according to the Times. It is especially difficult to strike back at these missiles, for they are mounted on trucks, enabling them to fire fast and relocate quickly. The newspaper cited a recent Defense Intelligence Agency report that China is rapidly upgrading its missiles aimed at Taiwan from a few hundred already in place along the coast to as many as 650 within the next five years. An earlier Pentagon report to Congress said China will produce "a large arsenal of highly accurate and lethal theater missiles . . . a "revolutionary departure" from its previous military deployments near Taiwan. "The focus on Taiwan may reflect a view within the People's Liberation Army that force eventually may have to be used," the report said. The Times said the Clinton administration has tried to downplay, even ignore, Beijing's missile buildup. It cited State Department spokesman James Foley, who in February said: "Reports that suggest that there has been a sudden new deployment are wrong. As part of its military modernization, China has been deploying missiles for some time." And it quoted one U.S. government expert on the Chinese military: "Both Beijing and the State Department are in agreement that Taiwan does not deserve adequate missile defenses, while both are also in agreement that the U.S. and Taiwan should ignore Beijing's blossoming ballistic missiles." To read more about China's growing missile threat, see these recent NewsMax.com stories: **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] More Elderly Drivers Mean Safety Concerns Grow
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Old and on the Road More Elderly Drivers Mean Safety Concerns Grow Ed Taaffe, 85, demonstrates hand turning signals as he takes a driving test to renew his California driver's license at the Department of Motor Vehicles in San Francisco. (Eric Risberg / AP Photo) By Dick Crary The Associated Press S A N F R A N C I S C O, Nov. 22 â It was a baby-boomer anthem: having fun, fun, fun âtil Daddy takes the T-Bird away. But as car-crazy boomers age into grandparents, the question is becoming: when to take Daddyâs license away. At the American Gerontological Societyâs annual meeting this week, and around the country, experts are trying to figure out how to get unsafe older drivers off the road without unfairly penalizing those who drive well. Statistics show that drivers over 65, along with teen-agers, have the highest accident rates per miles driven. But proposals in several states to toughen requirements for older drivers have been thwarted recently by senior-citizen lobbying groups who say age-based measures are discriminatory. âThere are good drivers and bad drivers of all ages,â said Nina Glasgow, a Cornell University researcher who opposes age-based testing and favors screening targeted at all unsafe drivers. Few Tests for Older Drivers Several states require elderly drivers to renew their licenses more frequently than other drivers, but very few require road tests or medical exams. Lawrence Nitz, a political scientist from the University of Hawaii, presented a three-year study of Hawaiian traffic records at the gerontological meeting. It found that drivers over 75 were far more likely than other motorists to be cited for certain offenses, including failing to yield to pedestrians, backing up unsafely and failing to stop at a flashing red light. To deal with elderly problem drivers, Nitz suggested a phased removal of driving privileges comparable to the phased adding of privileges for young drivers. For example, an older driver might be barred from driving at night or restricted to an area near home. Many Need Transportation Other experts argued that most elderly drivers regulate themselves effectively, knowing when to avoid nighttime or highway driving. Some cautioned that any extra push to get older drivers off the roads could have negative effects â isolating residents in areas without good public transit and reducing their independence. Glasgow said her research has shown that elderly drivers are more likely to participate in club and church activities than non-drivers. âThereâs a risk to ceasing driving,â she said. âPeople who have stopped driving tend to have lower morale.â Anita Myers of the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada, said her province had a stringent license-renewal policy dating to 1936. Drivers over 80 must renew their licenses every two years and take a 90-minute driver education class. Many Liked Driving Tips Myers surveyed elderly drivers about the procedure and found them generally tolerant. The mandatory class drew high marks, she said: âThey loved the defensive driving tips.â Road tests were part of Ontarioâs renewal requirements until 1996, but the tests are now required only for selected drivers with questionable safety records. With the number of elderly drivers increasing rapidly across the continent, it becomes less and less feasible for authorities to institute mandatory road tests on any broad basis. As an alternative, experts are seeking quicker, cheaper ways to identify high-risk drivers. A major study is taking place in Maryland, monitoring vision, alertness and reflexes among more than 2,000 volunteer older drivers in hopes of developing effective and relatively simple screening procedures. AARP Clout Downed Change Legislative efforts to toughen requirements in Oregon and California failed this year following lobbying against the bills by the American Association of Retired People. The Oregon bill would have required drivers over 80 to renew their licenses every two years, instead of four, and to take driving and medical tests. In California, state Sen. Tom Hayden abandoned an attempt to require road tests for drivers over 75 when it become clear in September that his measure lacked the needed votes. âItâs discriminatory to base mandatory testing on the fact that someone has achieved a birthday,â said Helen Savage, one of the AARP lobbyists who fought the bill. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==
[CTRL] Bill Clinton's America: Getting Weaker By The Week
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Bill Clinton's America: Getting Weaker By The Week Oliver North November 23, 1999 Washington: Hardly a week goes by that our beloved leader, William The Impeached, doesn't do something harmful to America's long term security interests. This week is no exception. Before leaving for another failed "summit" with his buddy Boris, the Butcher of Chechnya, Clinton dispatched his wife to the Middle East where she set the peace process back a few years. While she was gone, he closed a deal to welcome Communist China into "the family of nations;" bailed out U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan with American tax dollars; and launched another attack on America's military readiness. And he did it all with the acquiescence of a Republican-led Congress. Who says a lame duck can't get anything done? Clinton could not have known in advance that his wife would embarrass the U.S. by sitting mute while Mrs. Arafat launched into a diatribe about the Israelis using poison gas against Palestinian women and children. But true to form, "The Comeback Kid," brushed off the criticism faster than a White House intern and bounced back with the "great news" that U.S. Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky and Economic Advisor Gene Sperling had "negotiated a framework" for China to join the World Trade Organization (WTO). After 13 years of lobbying three U.S. presidents, the wonderful folks who soaked the cobblestones of Tianenmen Square with the blood of thousands of their countrymen a decade ago will get what they have long sought -- legitimization for their regime in the eyes of the "world community." The sterling fellows whose spies ripped off our nuclear labs and stole our most sensitive secrets will also get permanent Most Favored Nation trading status. When Beijing and its one billion consumers are admitted to the WTO, Congress will no longer be able to preserve even the fig leaf that someone in the U.S. government cares more about human rights than almighty profits. And what do we get out of this supposedly wonderful deal? China has agreed to double the number of Hollywood movies it allows into the country each year. Sounds great; until you read the fine print and discover that the folks who send us cut-rate clothes, machine tools and athletic shoes made with slave labor only allowed Tinsel Town to send in 10 movies last year. "Not fair," says the Clinton Trade Team; the WTO deal also helps American farmers. What do they get? Tariffs on agricultural products will be reduced a whopping half percentage point from 15 percent to 14.5 percent. Meanwhile, has anyone even noticed that the annual U.S. trade deficit with Communist China has now grown to a cool $57 billion? But when you're in search of a legacy, money doesn't matter. What does matter is what people in the "International Community" say about you, and how you are seen. That's why Clinton took a walk through the wreckage of another Turkish earthquake, why he was photographed with American troops digging in for another bitter winter in the Balkans, and why, just before he left for his most recent foreign excursion, he proudly announced that the U.S. would "finally pay its debt to the United Nations." Forget that Kofi Annan is paid more than the president of the United States. Forget that Annan and his fellow globocrats live in posh Manhattan digs and troll New York City in chauffeur-driven limousines. Thanks to Bill Clinton and a Congress anxious to get home for the holidays, the Secretary General of the United Nations has a cool one billion dollars of American cash to use as international walking around money. And here's the saddest part of all this global wheeling and dealing: It's all being done against the backdrop of an ever-weaker U.S. military. Just before he blew out of town for his foreign junket, the Commander-in-Chief was presented with further evidence of the appalling state of readiness in our armed forces. A week ago, it was the U.S. Army, announcing that two of its ten divisions were so short of troops, equipment and training that they could not go to war. This week, it was the Navy. The Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group, set to deploy to the Middle East, won't be combat ready without being able to use the live-fire training ranges on Puerto Rico's Vieques Island. And, the U.S. nuclear submarine force, the cutting edge of American maritime offensive and defensive power, must start going to sea with women aboard in order to maintain adequate crew levels. Ah, what a legacy. COPYRIGHT 1999 CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC. Oliver North is a former marine colonel, who you may remember from the Iran-Contra hearings, and currently hosts 'Equal Time' on MSNBC. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior
[CTRL] FW: The true Rational Explanation for the LFAS?
-Caveat Lector- Information for "USO" unidenfied submarine objects sightings, conjecture relating LFAS /SURTASS with undersea WARFARE. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: jean hudon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 6:53 PM To: David Bresnahan Cc: Cheryl A. Magill; Nick Oredson; Dave Kupelian Subject: The true "Rational Explanation" for the LFAS? Taken from http://currents.net/newstoday/99/08/23/news1.html The US Navy's stated purpose for testing LFAS (Low Frequency Active Sonar) is to better equip themselves so as to identify and track a potential threat to our nation's security. With the USA deploying the defacto standard of the highest submarine technology, what's the Navy so worried about? Several people have brought up the idea of there being UFO/USO related incidents surrounding this littoral warfare research. For this reason, I consulted with James A. Peters regarding the idea of giving people a tailor-made contact page to report such incidents or observations which they may have identified; and to thereby relate that information to an UFO investigator/researcher. One reason to bring in an UFO/USO researcher is that it is easy to confuse actual information with belief systems. Afterall, most submersible crafts are somewhat unidentified when they are first detected in the water. Therefore, identifying them is in great part a pragmatic and mundane task requiring knowledge of equipment and practical skills. Identifying belief systems is a bit more abstract and goes back to cultural expectations, religious instruction, incorporation of myth, determination of preference and fundamental idealism. While there are many who will wish to embrace the later, it is an appreciable function that observing and identifying distant moving objects is a sufficiently difficult task, best conducted without bias or pre-conceived expectations. That is not to lessen the "lessons" of another process in learning about our oceans and our diverse relationship with both our heritage, and our future role on the planet. One standard services an ideology whereas another serves a practical function. These ideas are necessarily kept separate and apart from the nuts and bolts compilation of information necessary to create a data base. For instance, on Yom Kippur, I reflected on the Story of Jonah and the Whale. I thoroughly enjoyed the many analagous references to our modern problems with human arrogance and today's threatened oceans. However, all of that would be quite different from the observation-level data gathering function which Jim Peters will be conducting here. I have tried to compile such interesting references and am currently in the process of placing them together on one web page. Please be patient while that work develops. Several speculations about ancient cities, theories about Atlantis and even fantasy, speculation and lore will appear there. However, the intent and function of this "WURSCLCH" page will remain a manageable one dedicated to a compilation of information which is verifiable. FUTURE LINK TO NEW PAGE NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION James A. Peters is the Assistant Director of Colorado MUFON with six years investigative work in researching identifying the unknown. His expertise includes work he has done with Jose Escamilla, developing methods by which to conduct RODS investigations research. (A topic which has brought him to speak on several national broadcasts in the past and an anticipated tour to England this November.) He has a background in environmental sciences, knows his way around an Environmental Impact Statement is familiar with typical military procedures for dealing with environmental issues. Jim is familiar with the topic of LFA Sonar its proposed deployment by the US Navy. Persons wishing to report an observation or a sighting pertaining to LFA Sonar will need to leave a message and ask to speak with James A. Peters by NAME. Jim wrote this reply to someone who was asking for some explanation about the Navy's choice in using LFAS. The writer went on to say, .. "I heard from an ex naval officer that the LFAS was probably designed for use as a powerful ray gun." Jim's reply was as follows: All I can offer you is the result of speculation regarding the Navy's strong intention to deploy LFAS. Their motivation seems rather out of place for this post cold war era. They say that LFAS is necessary because more countries have submarines now than ever before. Okay, I'll give them that. But are there more new submarines? Or are the existing submarines being sold and shuffled around? Besides, submarines are expensive, complex vehicles that take a long time to build, test and deploy. How could there be a sudden proliferation of a submarine threat that didn't exist before? So, for me anyway, the Navy's stated need for LFAS seems weak when compared to their strong determination to deploy it and to put a tremendous marine
[CTRL] Plane Crashes
-Caveat Lector- ec From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 11/22/1999 7:46:21 PM Central Standard Time, Rubie2zDay writes: Hi Dee! Finally got these couple of pages finished! What I was trying to do, was collect all kinds of pertinent bomb, missile, plane etc links, cockpit transcripts, articles, etc. and compile them on one page for easier reference. Most of the links are so scattered around! I got some of the links from your site (put a link to your site on second page) and I had some of them in my own bookmarks. I figured most people aren't even aware of some of these incidents or had forgotten about them. There seems to be a real pattern and I thought it was important for people to be able to see it, since so many just follow along no matter what the media and/or govt tell us! Putting them all in one place helps the 'lazys' not have to work too hard! ;) A HREF="http://members.aol.com/reach4drms/mystery.html"Flight 990, TWA 800, SwissAir, Silk Air,.../A http://members.aol.com/reach4drms/mystery.html A HREF="http://members.aol.com/reach4drms/transcripts.html"'Smoke Gets In Your Eyes'/A http://members.aol.com/reach4drms/transcripts.html --- Anyway, since I put that up, today, I found this interesting article regarding a book...for those who think the govt would never do anything wrong or hide things from us! I put it here: A HREF="http://members.aol.com/rubie2zday/index.html"Index/A http://members.aol.com/rubie2zday/index.html with the brief 'blurb', below. "...the American people have become so apathetic, so dumbed-down and so "I, me, my" that they no longer care who this government kills as long as it doesn't disturb their self-induced coma that protects their comfort zone." A Shifrin, Executive Director E. Shifrin, Secretary ANALYSIS OF THE TOP SECRET CODE WORDED CIA REPORT on the subject of the mysterious disappearance of the South Korean Boeing 747 (Flight 007), its crew and passengers after its 1983 shooting down near the shores of Island Sakhalin I. A BRIEF HISTORY Since 1989, our Research Center for Soviet prisons and concentration camps has been conducting an independent investigation concerning the fate of the crew and passengers of the ill fated flight KAL 007 which disappeared after September 1, 1983. In 1990, we established, through our underground channels in the USSR, that Korean Boeing 747 (Flight KAL 007) did not crash into the sea after it had been hit by two Soviet rockets, but rather had water landed safely in the shallow waters in the vicinity of Island Moneron, not far from Sakhalin. At the same time, we received information that the passengers (United States Congressman Lawrence P. McDonald among them) as well as the crew were removed from on board the plane by Soviet coastal guard and transferred to the mainland" Full article is here: A HREF="http://www.devvy.com/kal007_19991120.html"Incident At Sakhalin - The True Mission of KAL 007/A Elaine We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] more Royal Goss
-Caveat Lector- well . The Dark Reptile formerly known as [prince] philip has long been known by the suffering uk public to be an alien from the planet xool. The only person I know who can go to china and complain about the number of 'slitty eyed' people - his most recent gaff being at a factory in livingston scotland where he remarked of a broken fusebox that it had been 'put in by an indian' - and when people retaliated that he was an indolent greek - he replied 'greek enough to marry the queen' a sly referennce to his Trojan descent bloodline. My mate dave says that he is actually an alien gangster from the planet marcab and points out in a recent painting that the duke had been painted with claw like fingers !!! The queen mother is also known to have had various 'peculiar liasons' in a small scottish castle near balmoral, castle may, mind you, our friend mr ike claims that the queen mum turns into a big dark lizard and interferes with choir boys in a painful manner with a knife !!! Someone in Gordonstoun in the princes year was recently found hanged in the dormitory - perhaps a bit of traditional hanging childsplay for the upper classes gone wrong. there are 2 bloodline claims to the uk - the least viable windsor trojan descent of judah, and the scottish dalriadan descent [got there first but don't tell anyone !!! ] which has included princess diana by way of mary queen of scots so I'm told. A little known fact that MI5 sworn to protect the head of state and democracy are also backing a stuart pretender to the scottish throne, and just to be on the safe side, a dark defence intelligence group has created another pretender to the scottish throne via the dalriadan line. The best royal ever, princess anne, is set to take up residence in holyrood palace near the scottish parliament in edinburgh, presumably in an attempt to stave off pangs of scottish independence and nationalism. Anne, a long term favourite [with myself] and others - may have her work cut out for her now. Prince Edwards visit to holywood USA and his film deals re the queen mum have gone directly against his declared policy not to capitalise on his title say the press in the uk - who are also embittered by his attitudes towards the british arts industry. Brave princess sophie - daughter of andrew and sarah of york collapsed at a senataph commemoration ceremony - looking a lot like her mum - and a bit flushed - she got to her feet and stayed for the ceremony. Al Fayad claims in Court and in the newspapers today that prince Philip and MI5/6 were responsible for Dianas and Dodis death - daring prince philip to sue him. Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Are Copiers used to Track us?]
-Caveat Lector- Robert Tatman scrawled the following: This is why the new $100 and $20 bills with their "counterfeit-proof" features were introduced; the $5 and $10 denominations are in the works. .. Sure, that is what the "features" are allegedly for. That is just a publicly acceptable explanation. In fact, the main purpose of the new currency is to facilitate better tracking of the sheep. How many credit cards, drivers licences, or other forms of id/cards with magnetic strips do you regularly carry that allow you to be tracked anywhere, anytime? But let's break it down for those doubters out there. The trackers don't even need these devices---everyone of us has in our brains a magnetic signature individual to us that can be used with Magnetic resonance imaging equipment from either deep space platforms or from other locations to track the populus. So, come on, we are on this list, and if we believe the lies (counter counterfeiting, etc) then what hope do the rest of the sheep have? Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] JFK ASSASSINATED 36 YEARS AGO TODAY! EO 11110
-Caveat Lector- Do you know the full name of Pearson? I assume this is an ancestor to Viscount Cowdray, but which one? Linda -Original Message- From: Chuck Acme [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 6:16 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] JFK ASSASSINATED 36 YEARS AGO TODAY! EO 0 -Caveat Lector- From: Pep Stofen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TO TELL THE TRUTH TO TELL THE TRUTH! It was the year of 1694, King William III, granted to Mr. Pearson, permission to establish the Bank of England. With power to issue money against the Credit of the English peopleThe bank then loaned money to the British Crown at interest, thus creating the debt to the bank. It took less than eighty years to force King George to tax the American Colonies so as to pay the vast amount of interest to the bank. Colonial Investigators, such as, Ben Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, etc. became determined to free the American people from the debt of King George III to the Bank of England. With great sacrifice (the Revolutionary War) they wrote the Constitution of the United States of America...which Provides Constitutional Power, to Congress, to issue interest-free (debt-free) money so the people can control the economy with an elective Republic. The United States won the war against King George III, nevertheless, the Bank of England continued to bribe a few Americans to establish central banks, such as, the first and second Bank of the United States which Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson, respectively, denied renewal. In less than four score and seven years, Abraham Lincoln had his Congress to issue to issue the United States Note, free of interest so as to enable payment of the actual cost of the Civil War...which was paid in less than twenty years. In 1913, the U.S.A. politicians were conned into passing the Federal Reserve Act. Which gave the Federal Reserve Bankers the alleged power to issue United States money against the Credit of the U.S.A. taxpayer. The last year that the United States Note was issued interest-free to the U.S.A. Government was 1963, when $4,292,892,825.00 was printed into circulation. It should be interesting that President John F. Kennedy said (only ten days before his assassination): - "the High Office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American Freedom, and before I leave Office, I must inform the citizens of this plight." Since the J.F.K. Administration, very few politicians or members of the media have mentioned that the "UNITED STATES NOTE" issued (interest-free) by the U.S.A. Congress, will solve the U.S.A. National Debt which is caused by the interest-bearing issuance of the Federal Reserve Note. In the year of 1998, the U.S.A. taxpayer will pay to the Federal Reserve Bankers, over a million dollars-a-day (and accelerating) in interest against the fraudulent National Debt, THAT'S THE TRUTH! Pep DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Fwd: [spynews] Re: Soros: It Isn't Enough to Shed Communism
-Caveat Lector- ==BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE== To: "[spynews]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:24:38 +0100 Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailing-List: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-URL: http://www.egroups.com/list/spynews/ List-Subscribe: http://www.egroups.com/subscribe?listname=spynews, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [spynews] Re: Soros: "It Isn't Enough to Shed Communism" '__ ___ _ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ __ /'_|'o'\'V'/'\|'|'__|'|'|'/'_| \_'\''_/\'/|'\\'|'_||'V'V'\_'\ |__/_|''//'|_|\_|___|\_n_/|__/ http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html -- Tuesday November 23, 1999 -- It Isn't Enough to Shed Communism By George Soros Tuesday, November 23, 1999; The Washington Post Page A27 The writer is an international financier and philanthropist. Beware of billionaires bearing gifts -- http://www.forbes.com/forbes/97/0407/5907082a.htm A near decade after the collapse of the Soviet Union, much of Central and Eastern Europe is still ruled by the old gang. Guess who's helping keep them in power? By Richard C. Morais Forbes Magazine April 7, 1997 IF YOU'VE DIMLY wondered what is happening in Albania, we can, in a brief sentence, explain: George Soros' friends are coming out on top. Late in February, armed gangs led by gangsters and ex-Communists, many of them veterans of the old secret police state, all but toppled an elected liberal government, and forced the president to appoint a neo-Communist as prime minister. While this was happening, George Soros sat in his London town house and calmly told Forbes that his Albanian Foundation is "an excellent group very much on top of the situation." On top is right: Soros has kept afloat a newspaper, Koha Jone, that egged on the coupists with inflammatory antigovernment propaganda. A pyramid scheme had collapsed, costing many people their savings, and the Soros-supported paper effectively made a call to arms. A top official of the Soros foundation in Tirana boasted to stunned observers: "[President] Berisha's going. We got him." In an age-old tradition of European political patronage, this multibillionaire speculator routinely taps his billions to fund journals, politicians and educators in Europe and elsewhere. More often than not, these have an exclusively left-wing bias. Soros, 67, is Hungarian-born but a U.S. citizen. He recently caused a flutter in the February issue of the Atlantic Monthly by penning a windy attack on free market capitalism. Why is George Soros so cozy with people and causes that might be expected to view his kind as parasites? To understand his charitable works Forbes visited the Soros Foundation- Hungary's cream-colored villa in the hills of Budapest. Hungary is not only Soros' native land but where his charities have the longest history. There we met Miklos Vasarhelyi, the 80-year-old president of the Soros-funded foundation. This man, who dispenses millions of dollars a year in a rather poor country, has an interesting past. Vasarhelyi was press officer to Imre Nagy, the Communist Prime Minister executed in 1958 for being too independent. Vasarhelyi stood trial along with Nagy after Soviet tanks crushed the 1956 Hungarian uprising. Nagy and most others were hanged or sentenced to life. Vasarhelyi got just five years, the lightest punishment of the pack. Thanks to George Soros, this former Communist has risen again. A political party he helped found is a partner in the present government. That government is a coalition of ex-Communists (now the Hungarian Socialist Party) and a left-liberal group, the Alliance of Free Democrats, a coalition that came to power in 1994 after defeating a rather ineffectual moderate government. Soros blessed the election results. "These are strong, serious-minded people," he publicly said of the victorious ex-Communists. "I have great expectations in general." Not everyone agreed. One prominent foreign businessman who first considered, then rejected, doing business in Hungary, described the current government as a "bunch of clowns who haven't a clue as to how to run an economy." Soros has since banged heads with Socialist Prime Minister Gyula Horn, but remains close to his coalition partner, the Alliance of Free Democrats. He provides many AFD leaders with income. Besides Vasarhelyi, for example, Soros' Hungarian lawyer, Alajos Dornbach, is a top-ranked AFD official and a legal adviser to the foundation. Soros is the great philanthropist of our age or so his press constantly remind us. Every year, according to his flacks, he gives away more than $300 million through a network of 1,000 employees in 30 countries. When Russian scientists were starving he gave each a year's salary; he brought fresh water to besieged Bosnians; he's providing kindergartens for Gypsies. Good deeds, all. But there is another side to the giving, a rather
[CTRL] The City
-Caveat Lector- .. Forwarded from the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Mark Elena Gallmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The "City" Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 8:58 PM Dear Mr Miller, I came across your website after reading your old circa 1985 Project on the BibleBelievers in Australia website. So I've subscribed. I've read your bi-polar view, which in my opinion is the most reasonable I've seen. I wasn't prepared to find such instant confirmation on the internet itself. I've since looked up The City's (City of London, a/k/a London Corporation) website. Not only does the "Queen" defer to the "Lord Mayor" there but I also learned that: 1. The City's police force is separate from Metropolitan London's and always has been. 2. Local politics in The City are conducted on a non-partisan basis. Neither Labor or Conservative parties are active there. That makes complete sense. No one allows their servants to rule them. 3. The City has its own criminal court. 4. The City has posted pictures on its internet site of eco-rioters its police are hunting from a demonstration last June 18. There's dozens of them. 5. The City (Corporation of London) has purchased and conserved, outside of its own boundaries, the hunting lodge of Elizabeth I. Somewhat out of the normal behavior for something that is nominally only a local govenment. Why shouldn't the national government conserve a monarch's hunting lodge? 6. The City's own statistics show that it far exceeds New York in every financial category except stock market capitalization. So The City has its own geographic sovereignty that is only a bit less veiled than The Vatican's. Veiled enough to fool the sheeple. But for the "Kings" of the earth, who all traffic in their own political symbolism, the symbolism and the underlying reality of power is clear. Especially when they come (are summoned) to visit. The City even has its own extraterritorial citizenship in the form of "The Freedom of the City". And, lest anyone forget, The City was the target of 80% of the Luftwaffe's Blitz attacks and also the aiming point of the V1-V2 campaign in 1944. Yours Truly, Mark A. Gallmeier Port Charlotte, FLForwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: WASHINGTON POST DOES WHITE HOUSE DIRTY DEEDS IN SMEARING NEW INDEPENDENT COUNSEL?
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 6:08 PM To: Judicial; Watch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WASHINGTON POST DOES WHITE HOUSE DIRTY DEEDS IN SMEARING NEW INDEPENDENT COUNSEL? FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE November 22, 1999 Contact: Joe Giganti (202)646-5172 WASHINGTON POST DOES WHITE HOUSE DIRTY DEEDS IN SMEARING NEW INDEPENDENT COUNSEL? Attack on Starr Replacement Robert W. Ray Likely Generated By White House and Private Investigators Clintons' Secret Police At It Again? (Washington, D.C.) Judicial Watch, the non-partisan public interest law firm that prosecutes government corruption, asked if the White House or its agents were involved in today's Washington Post hit piece against new independent counsel and Starr replacement Robert W. Ray. Judicial Watch has previously uncovered evidence that the Clinton White House had kept files on Ken Starr and others it considered to be threats. Maintenance or use of such files on individuals is a violation of, among other federal laws, the Privacy Act. Bill and Hillary Clinton also employ private investigators, who include former FBI officials and agents. "It is evident from the Post piece that someone was digging into the background of Independent Counsel Ray. The Washington Post article has the fingerprints of The White House and the Clintons' private investigators all over it," stated Judicial Watch Chairman Larry Klayman. Judicial Watch notes that it would be a crime for any individual to intimidate Mr. Ray, a federal law enforcement official, in the performance of his official duties. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Ranier E. Gut, Chairman, Credit-Suisse
From: "Linda Minor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] As you may know, LaRouche's group, EIR, attempted to trace modern financial institutions as far back as possible. They concluded that they originated with the Venetian banking system, which was controlled by the fondi (in italics--the plural of fondo), which translated loosely I think means "fund". Quoting now, from pp. 96-100: [I]nvestment banking in the U.S. is now almost wholly controlled by the ancient European fondi, that is, family trust funds whose pedigree goes back to the financing of the Crusades by Genoa and Venice. From 1971 to 1981, in the decade after then-Treasury Under-secretary Paul Volcker removed its gold backing, the U.S. dollar fell to a mere 60% of its pre-devaluation level, while the combined effects of inflation and lower stock prices devalued American equity to about 30% of its 1971 level in terms of gold. From the standpoint of the old oligarchical fondi, secured through gold, American equity could be had for a fifth of its pre-1971 price during the late 1970s. This is the period of the grand reflow of capital to the U.S., measured by the International Monetary Fund as the "statistical discrepancy in the world current account balance." ... Among modern financial institutions, the Assicurazioni Generali of Venice, the heir to the old Venetian fortunes, provides the most clues to the operations of the fondi. The "Generali," as an insurance organization, is a clearing house for the operations of numerous fondi, each one represented by its frontman, one of the principal European investment banks. Its board of directors consists of the principal banking fortunes of Western Europe, each of whom is to be found in the succeeding chapters drawn from the 1978 edition of Dope, Inc. These directors included: *Baron August Von Finck, reputedly the richest man in Germany until his recent death (with the possible exception of Johannes von Thurn und Taxis), owner of the Merck und Finck investment bank. ...The bank's importance is a function of the fondo of the old Bavarian royal family of Wittelsbach. *Elie de Rothschild, of the French Rothschild family; *Baron Pierre Lambert, the Belgian cousin of the Rothschild family and proprietor of the Banque Bruxelles-Lambert (and a force on Wall Street through Drexel Burnham Lambert); *Jocelyn Hambro of Hambro's Bank, which owned a quarter of Michele Sindona's Banca Privata when it went under in 1974; *Pierpaolo Luzzatto Fequiz, of the ancient Venetian Luzzatto family, whom we shall encounter later in this chapter in the company of the notorious Banco Ambrosiano; *Franco Orsini Bonacossi of the ancient Orsini family, whose origin includes members of the ancient Roman senate. Europe's two most powerful investment banks, Lazard Freres (of the thousand-year-old David-Weill family) and the Banque Paribas (founded by Venetian Jews based in the Ottoman Empire trade) are the largest stockholders in the Assicurazioni through a variety of shells. The sister Venetian insurance company of the "Generali," the Riunione Adriatica di Sicurta, includes among its directors members of the Giustiniani family of Genoa and Venice, descendants of the vile Roman Emperor Justinian; the Doria family, the chief Genoese financiers of the Spanish Hapsburgs; as well as the current Duke of Alba, descendant of the brutal Spanish marcher-lord whom the Genoese bankers sent to the Netherlands four centuries ago to crush their independence. Assicurazioni Generali and the Bank for International Settlements of Basel (the "central bank for central banks"), are the world's only financial institutions to keep their books in the old pre-war Swiss gold franc, the "hard currency" which the fondi employed to buy American equities at a dime on the dollar during the first fumbling years of the Roosevelt administration. They waited long to avenge themselves against the upstart United States. Their chance came with the break of the dollar from its gold backing in 1971. Given the collapse of Wall Street stock prices during the long agony of the dollar between the 1967 collapse of the pound sterling and the aftermath of the 1971 debacle, it is not surprising that every major brokerage firm ran into trouble no later than the mid-1970s. Lehman Brothers, once the most powerful firm on the Street, was the first to raise the white flag. It secured, through offices of George Ball, a 7% investment from Banca de la Svizzera Italiana, a Swiss bank which functioned as a virtual Swiss subsidiary of the Banca Commerciale d'Italia--the bank at whose headquarters the infamous Propaganda-2 lodge of Italian freemasonry had been founded years earlier. The Banca de la Svizzera Italiana (BSI), based in Lugano, Switz., specialized in covert movement of Italian flight capital into the U.S. One by one the other major Wall Street houses fell under the control of the old European fondi. The dominant mergers and acquisitions operation on Wall Street, Lazard
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Are Copiers used to Track us?]
-Caveat Lector- Do you have hard facts on any this technology and its use? Are the scenarios of mars colonies and what not true? Is it cover or cover-up? Now i do believe that there is technology in the hands of the "powers-that-be", but also suspect that there is much "gloss" and "diffusement, also. Om k In a message dated 11/23/99 5:49:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Tatman scrawled the following: This is why the new $100 and $20 bills with their "counterfeit-proof" features were introduced; the $5 and $10 denominations are in the works. .. Sure, that is what the "features" are allegedly for. That is just a publicly acceptable explanation. In fact, the main purpose of the new currency is to facilitate better tracking of the sheep. How many credit cards, drivers licences, or other forms of id/cards with magnetic strips do you regularly carry that allow you to be tracked anywhere, anytime? But let's break it down for those doubters out there. The trackers don't even need these devices---everyone of us has in our brains a magnetic signature individual to us that can be used with Magnetic resonance imaging equipment from either deep space platforms or from other locations to track the populus. So, come on, we are on this list, and if we believe the lies (counter counterfeiting, etc) then what hope do the rest of the sheep have? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Plan: Massive Y2K riot In Times Sq.--Necessitating Military Intervention//ALSO:Gun Confiscation In Dec?
11.23.99 Plan: Massive Y2K Riot In Times Sq.-- Necessitating Military Intervention ALSO: Gun Confiscation Next Month? Ru says they have received a video which was made on the sly by a military commander in charge of a contingent of agents provocateur; whose job will be to initiate a massive, racially tinged riot in New York City's Times Square this coming millennial New Year's Eve. The unrest is going to be instigated and manipulated to such a severe extent that the use of military contingents are going to be "required" in order to "restore" "order." Real stuff, or not? If "real", the people involved in making this video may "believe" it to be something real, but they themselves may actually be getting manipulated unwittingly into being disinformation outlets without knowing it. Or, they MAY know they are putting out disinformation. And what about RuMills being manipulated and used without being aware of it, to publicize this material as being true and genuine when it in fact isn't? In fact, the video may be "true" but not "genuine", or it may be "genuine" but not "true". It may be partly true, but not genuine at all. Or vice versa. And so on. The combinations are numerous. Unfortunately, things are seldom as they seem and almost NEVER what the government SAYS they are, now more than ever before. NewsHawk is NOT saying WE believe this to be "real" in any way. We are NOT endorsing this material nor indicating any belief that it is in any way shape or form "REAL", and genuine in every sense of the word. However, it seems prudent to make as many people aware of this material as we can, just in case it IS the real deal. We are sending this transcript of the voice on this supposed training video, so that YOU can make up your own mind about the authenticity of the information based upon whatever criteria you choose. If we find out anything which relates to such authenticity in any way we will report it. - - - - - - - - 990--BIG-time Diversion?// Executive Order 13142--Gun Confiscation Next Month? The "mystery" of what caused the crash of EgyptAir Flight 990 and what ever happened to the 217 occupants seems so outlandish that the thought has crossed our minds that at least one additional possible motive for covert government factions to bring down the jet--by whatever means, is precisely to create a just such an extensive, ongoing "mystery" with MANY inexplicable aspects and attendant international uproar... as a DISTRACTION from something ELSE going on that "they" REALLY don't want us to notice! For example, we've received word that just before embarking on his extended overseas jaunt, President Clinton signed another executive order, No. 13142. The upshot of this executive order is reportedly that in early December, sheriffs' departments (and police departments) nationwide are to become federally deputized, and initiate the confiscation of private firearms in the territory of the United States of America. SO. How's that? NewsHawk welcomes any and all input of a non-screwball nature on this incredibly urgent issue. NewsHawk® Inc. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Transcript Of The "Assault On Times Square" Video From Rumor Mill News www.rumormillnews.com This video was possibly made as a training tool to show members of a squad of soldiers exactly where they will need to be during they're "mission" in Times Square 12/31/99. A video was made because showing up in Times Square with bunch of soldiers would raise to many questions. The video was then distributed, on base, to the men who are to participate in the mission. It was consequently given to a cousin of one of the soldiers, who then made a webpage [www.crowdedtheater.com] and released the video on the internet. The webpage was found, presumably, by this person's cousin or his superiors and taken down immediately - but not before I was able to download the video and put it back on the net for everyone to see and hear. I have since been informed the site was taken down by the Department Of Justice (DOJ). Here is the video transcribed word for word. {in Times Square] Leader: "OK, now you boys know that I'll personally land in a world of shit if anybody finds out I made this tape. But I just figured that since they decided we're not gonna do any on site manuvers, you guys could use a better look at where the deal's gonna go down. Except for "Raven" none of you men are cozy with the area of operation. So I went ahead and I bought this camera. I'm thinking I'll give you an unauthorized "sit-rep" here. You could take it in the spirit that it's done - keep it eyes only and off the screen. This tape does not exsist. [change of location] This is where it all goes down. I'm gonna walk you throught it - take a look at the AO and give you a quick run down on the mission. OK? Let's look at it. The containment pens and barricades run straight up and down from here, four pens per block, all your civilians lock up inside of them.
[CTRL] Fwd: Billboard Company Refuses RNC Sign Near Gore HQ
-Caveat Lector- FYI. Today's NYTimes ran the photo mock-up of Gore hugging Clinton, after proclaiming that BC was the greatest president. See URL below. -A (CNSNews.com) - A Nashville billboard company is refusing to honor a contract with the Republican National Committee to let the GOP advertise a few hundred yards from Vice President Al Gore's campaign headquarters. . .snip See http://www.CNSNews.com/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Far East advertising
-Caveat Lector- Taiwan Company Uses Cartoon Hitler By William Foreman Associated Press Writer Monday, Nov. 22, 1999; 2:36 a.m. EST TAIPEI, Taiwan -- A Taiwanese company is using large subway advertisements that feature a cartoon of a smiling Adolf Hitler to sell German-made electric space heaters. German culture and trade officials in Taipei said today they were appalled by the ad, which shows Hitler in a khaki uniform and black jackboots, his right arm raised high in a Nazi salute. Above him is a slogan that says "Declare war on the cold front!" There are no swastikas in the ad, but the Hitler figure wears a red band around his left arm with a white circle bearing the German manufacturer's name, DBK. Yu-shan Shen of the K.E. and Kingstone trading company said her firm sells the German heaters in Taiwan and designed the ad campaign, which began this month. "We decided to use Hitler because as soon as you see him, you think of Germany. It leaves a deep impression," said Shen, who works in the company's planning and design department. Shen said the company was not worried that the public would have a negative reaction to the ad that features a man who oversaw the killing of millions of Jews during World War II. "Most people in Taiwan are not that sensitive about Hitler," she said. Shen could not say whether the German firm had been informed about the ad. "As always, we do our promotion planning independently, and we report what we have done to DBK afterward," she said in a statement faxed to The Associated Press. DBK, based in the southwest German city of Kandel, could not immediately be reached for comment early today. Patricia Kortmann of the German Cultural Center in Taipei was dismayed by the ad and doubted a German firm would approve it. "It sounds too absurd to me that a German company would agree to such an advertising strategy," Kortmann said. Johannes Goeth of the German Trade Office in Taipei also doubted that the manufacturer knew about the ad beforehand. He said the trade office faxed DBK a letter two weeks ago telling it about the ad and has yet to receive a reply. Both Kortmann and Goeth said the advertisement didn't surprise them because they often encounter Taiwanese who admire Hitler and lack a deep understanding of European history. "Taxi drivers will often tell me Hitler was a great man, very strong," Goeth said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Making Kosovo Safe for Gangsters
-Caveat Lector- http://nypress.com/frame.cfm?content_id=705now=11/23/1999content_section=1 Loyal Opposition David Corn Making Kosovo Safe for Gangsters As President Clinton was preparing for his trip to Kosovo last week, I came across an e-mail from an acquaintance who works in the Pentagon and who was recently in Kosovo. His note was a scathing counter to the official happy-talk appraisals of life in Kosovo. For example, when Gen. Michael Jackson, NATOs top commander in Kosovo, recently vacated that post, he declared, "We have seen a return to normality" in Kosovo. He also hailed the "successful demilitarization" of the Kosovo Liberation Army and "the establishment of law and order." My Pentagon pals dispatch neatly sums up the troubles thereand illustrates the hollowness of the Clinton promises that accompanied the bombing of that province. With his permissionand in accordance with his wish to remain unidentified and employedhere are his observations: "Things seem much gloomier today than when I was there in the summer. I can only speak for myself (and the dozens or so various people who told me similar things), rather than on behalf of the U.S. government, but it is clear the UCK (KLA to non-Albanophones) is totally out of control, and unlikely to live up to its commitments on demilitarization. Ethnic Serbs and Roma continue to be attacked and leave the province. Right after I left the city of Pec (Peja in Albanian) in the western part of Kosovo, where violence was at its heaviest in the spring, a group of Serbs leaving the province, only ten miles from crossing into Montenegro, was attacked by a mob and barely got out alive (though their cars were all burned). Some of our (US) guys told me that in several villages where the ethnic Albanian citizens had elected their own mayors and councils, the UCK came in and told them who their new mayors would be. Its clear that disenchantment with the UCK is not limited to Serbs. It also appears that the judicial system is a sham, since all judges not associated with the UCK have been shot at or have quit their jobs or have been intimidated into releasing suspects. Its possible the UN Mission will turn that around, but Im not optimistic. In essence, the international community went into Los Angeles, drove out a corrupt and brutal LAPD, and left the Bloods and Crips as the de facto government. This is hardly an original revelation on my part, but the vision of a multi-ethnic Kosovo is giving way to reverse ethnic cleansing. I agree that we needed to dp something about the mayhem which Milosevic and Company authored. Unfortunately, it seems that we drove the Yugoslav military and police out with the promise that we (the entire international community) could provide a safe and stable environment for all Kosovos citizens. And we just could not deliver." So much for the authenticity of that Clinton endeavor. vol 12 no 47 -- --- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] A New Americanism-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Caveat Lector- Buchanan speech at CATO Institute A New Americanism Patrick J. Buchanan Last month, the Senate rejected the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. The U.S. nuclear arsenal that had deterred Stalin's empire, the Senate said, must be regularly tested for reliability and to reduce the destructive power of these awesome and awful weapons. The Senate was right. But to an enraged President, this was a vindictive vote to rob him of a legacy. He lashed out. The Senate, Mr. Clinton said, has embraced a "new isolationism" that seeks to "bury our heads in the sand behind a wall." A 4000-word tirade against the "New Isolationism" by Samuel Berger quickly followed. As I have been called, among other names, America's leading isolationist, my first thought was that he was giving me credit for his defeat. But what we are witnessing here is something more sinister, a resort by Mr. Clinton to a malicious libel to intimidate and silence any who would interfere with his globalist agenda. And as one who supported every great foreign policy initiative from Kennedy to Reagan, I reject the isolationist label, especially when made by those whose spent their youthful careers marching against the Cold War policies that brought us victory. America has never been an isolationist nation. "No president or national party in the entire history of the United States...ever advocated isolating the United States from the rest of the world," writes historian Wayne Cole. Historian Walter McDougall calls the term isolationist "but a dirty word that interventionists, especially since Pearl Harbor, hurl at anyone who questions their policies." Why did Mr. Clinton revert to it? To divert attention from his lost opportunity to shape a foreign policy that might endure in our post-Cold War world. Where Truman and Acheson succeeded, Clinton, like Wilson, has failed. His first attempt at interventionism and nation-building was the bloody debacle in Somalia. His embargo of Haiti and invasion proved ruinous to the people of that impoverished island, with no appreciable benefit to our Haitian neighbors or their quality of life. To divert attention from a personal scandal, the President fired missiles at a poison gas factory in Sudan. It now appears to have been an innocent pharmaceutical plant. Perhaps Mr. Clinton, who was apologizing for yet another of his predecessors' foreign policy sins, might wish to apologize for one of his own. Consider our relationship with Russia. Ten years ago, Ronald Reagan was being toasted in Moscow. Today, the prevailing wind is anti-Americanism. Not our fault, the Clintonites say. But who broke America's word to the Russians that if they withdrew the Red Army from Eastern Europe, we would not move NATO an inch closer to their frontiers? And what reaction do we expect when we collude with two former Soviet republics, Georgia and Azerbaijan, to build a pipeline to cut Russia out of the oil of the Caspian and ship it to her ancient enemy, Turkey? When enraged Russian generals charge us with meddling in the Caucasus, do they not have a point? That photo of the President in Istanbul, smiling broadly as the oil treaty was toasted, while his Energy Secretary crowed about our "victory," was a provocation. Be assured: Russian nationalists are surely even now plotting to overturn Mr. Clinton's "victory." Mr. Clinton's successes have been in Northern Ireland and the Middle East, where America assumed the role of peacemaker, rather than military interventionist. That is the role the greatest nation on earth should play, one ordained in the Sermon on the Mount. But our Republican elites are even more bellicose. It was his own Republicans who berated President Bush for not marching on Baghdad and establishing a "MacArthur Regency," Republicans who urged air strikes on the North Korean nuclear facilities, thus risking a second Korean War. It was Republicans who denounced Clinton for not sending 200,000 U.S. troops into Belgrade. And it was a Republican Governor of Texas who complained that our war on Serbia was not being prosecuted "ferociously" enough. And it is Republicans who seem to lust most ardently for a new Cold War. In President Bush's final year in office, a startling document surfaced in the Pentagon, detailing a plan to send 6 carrier battle groups and 24 NATO divisions to rescue Lithuania, should Moscow recolonize the republic. This prescription for war with Russia was crafted in the shop of one Paul Wolfowitz. It is not reassuring to see the selfsame Mr. Wolfowitz, one of Governor Bush's "Vulcans," emerging as an early favorite to be Secretary of State. Perhaps the defining foreign policy moment of the Clinton presidency was his unconstitutional war on Serbia. The cause of that war was Madeline Albright' s rage that Serbia would not sign a Rambouillet accord that called for the removal of all its troops from Kosovo, and permission for NATO troops to tramp through their country. No American
[CTRL] Serbs murdered by the hundred since 'liberation'
-Caveat Lector- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/serbs241199.shtml Armed Albanians take revenge with campaign of murder, house-burning and intimidation that has driven out thousands Serbs murdered by the hundred since 'liberation' By Robert Fisk in Pristina 24 November 1999 The postwar "ethnic cleansing" of Kosovo's Serbs appears to be nearing completion as armed Albanians continue to murder and kidnap the tiny minority of Serbs who remain in the province more than five months after Nato troops arrived in the words of their UN mandate "to ensure public safety and order". Of Pristina's 40,000 Serb population, only 400 are left. Statistics from the Serb church and a human rights group in Pristina suggest as many as 316 Serbs have been murdered and 455 more kidnapped, many of them killed, since Nato's arrival. If these figures bear any relation to reality and most are accompanied by names and dates then the number of Serbs killed in the five months since the war comes close to that of Albanians murdered by Serbs in the five months before Nato began its bombardment in March. Most Serb victims died in the first two months after Nato's entry, but house-burning and murder continues. One of the most recent deaths was that of a Serb restaurant worker employed by a supreme irony at the Pristina office of the International War Crimes Tribunal. The murder of Radovan Kukalj in his home town of Obilic on 29 October went almost unreported outside Kosovo. Statistics compiled by the Nato-led K-For in Kosovo appear to be woefully inaccurate. They give the number of Serbs murdered since mid-June as only 125, despite detailed lists from the Serb Orthodox Diocese of Raska and Prizren that include at least 184 named Serbs as murder victims, and 104 more kidnapped between 13 June and 22 August alone. Files at the Serbian-administered "Centre for Peace and Tolerance' in Pristina which includes Albanian victims in its statistics say that at least 48 Albanians as well as 455 Serbs have been kidnapped since mid-June. But even if the true figure was closer to K-For's statistic, not one of the brutal Serb killings is being investigated by members of the International War Crimes Tribunal working in Kosovo, not even the death of their own worker, Mr Kukalj. For while tribunal investigators still hope to bring charges against the murderers of Albanians killed before the war, they are prevented by the tribunal's mandate from any detective work on the postwar murder of Serbs. The mandate states that it can investigate crimes committed "during the armed conflict in Kosovo". But since neither Nato nor K-For will admit that a conflict continues under their control in Kosovo, albeit a largely one-sided one in which the Serbs are the principal victims, war crimes tribunal officials cannot investigate the killing of Serbs. This means their murderers have only the largely impotent UN police force to reckon with. No wonder, then, that minority groups continue to flee Kosovo. The 300-strong Croat community at Lecnice were preparing to celebrate their 700th anniversary in the province but left en masse last month for Dubrovnik. And this week, the president of the tiny Jewish community in Pristina, Cedra Prlincevic, left for Belgrade after denouncing "a pogrom against the non-Albanian population". He had left Kosovo, he said, "with only the Talmud". Foreign aid workers in Kosovo insist K-For is now making a huge effort to protect minorities after Nato General Sir Michael Jackson's defeatist response to the killings "we can only do so much," he said several times appeared to encourage the killers. "There are large numbers of Royal Irish Rangers in the Gjilane and Stimle areas trying to defend the small number of Serbs there," a European human rights worker said. "Just east of Pec, Serbs are returning from Montenegro at the rate of 40 a week and K-For is putting enormous resources in to re-establish them." Swedish troops have virtually surrounded the Serb monastery town of Gracanica, even ordering Albanians to strip Kosovo independence posters from their cars if they are driving in the Serb streets. But the same aid official, who spends much of his time on emergency work in Pristina, admitted: "Every single Serbian here has been intimidated verbally in the street, on the telephone, physically ..." A few hours later, I was confronted by a 64-year old Serb woman, Milunka Josic, who had just spent the night trying to keep Albanian youths from breaking down her front door. Her right hand was covered in bruises. "I know the young men who were shouting at me," she said. "They were beating on the door and screaming, ' your mother' and, 'Go back to Serbia'." In efforts to minimise the "ethnic cleansing" of the Serbs of Kosovo, K-For has even produced graphs which compare the province favourably to cities which include Pretoria and Moscow, a meaningless performance since these are among the crime
[CTRL] Retired Adm. Warns of China Attack
-Caveat Lector- http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpne0u.htm Retired Adm. Warns of China Attack By GEORGE GEDDA Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) -- Retired Adm. Thomas Moorer, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Tuesday that China is preparing to take over the Panama Canal once the United States relinquishes control. He warned of possible Chinese use of the area to launch a nuclear attack on America. Moorer said China plans to seize control through a Hong Kong company, Hutchinson Whampoa, which has won the right to operate ports on both sides of the canal. He contended that the firm has close links to the Chinese military. Moorer commented at a news conference sponsored by the John Birch Society, a rightist group opposed to the treaties. The treaties require the United States to surrender control of the canal and to remove all U.S. troops by Dec. 31. Administration officials have previously dismissed allegations of an eventual Chinese takeover of the canal as baseless. Moorer spoke as U.S. and Panamanian officials met to discuss canal security and other issues once the transfer to Panamanian control takes place. Heading the Panamanian delegation was Foreign Minister Jose Miguel Aleman, who conferred with U.S. officials on a draft Panamanian plan to ensure security over the waterway in the face threats from ``terrorism, insurgency and organized crime.'' A statement issued by the Panamanian Embassy said the draft plan also will be shared with eight other countries, including Taiwan. China was not among the eight. Moorer, who served as Joint Chiefs chairman during the Nixon administration, said China's missiles can carry ``a nuclear payload or an explosive payload, and they can also be mounted on a truck and moved around -- and, therefore, very difficult to keep track of. ``And consequently, we have a situation where the Chinese are in a position today to secret these kinds of missiles into Panama and use Panama as a launching point for missiles to attack the United States,'' he said. ``And no one seems to get exercised over that and the media doesn't ever mention that.'' He said the Chinese threat ``is more difficult to handle'' than the Cuban missile crisis was. Moorer also disputed the administration contention that the United States retains the right after surrendering the canal to use force to ensure free passage in the event of a takeover by hostile forces. He insisted that President Carter gave up that right in a secret agreement with Panama under which the United States would be allowed to use force only with Panamanian consent. A State Department official said he had not seen Moorer's comments and could not comment. AP-NY-11-23-99 1908EST Copyright © Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Home | Top of Page 11/23 -- --- NOTE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml --- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot
[CTRL] Who Or What Killed The TRUTH?
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-Caveat Lector- http://www.plim.org/nonlocal.htm HAS SCIENCE FOUND GOD IN NON-LOCAL REALITY? Dr . Lee E. Warren, B.A., D.D. (c) September/October 1996 "PLIM REPORT" Feel free to copy and circulate this article for non-commerical purposes provided the Web site and author are mentioned. See Related Articles: Science and Medicine Introduction Some may argue that science has not proven the actual existence of God. However, quantum mechanics (a discipline that explains the interaction of the various forces and energies that exist in an atom) has discovered another realm that is not physical or in the realm of space and time. Quantum mechanics emerged about 1925 led by the research of Albert Einstein (1879-1955) and Neil Bohr (1885-1962) who we will discuss later in this paper. Houston Smith in his book The WorldÆs Religions states that science has been very doubtful of the unseen realm, ôbut with EddingtonÆs [Sir Arthur Stanley Edding-ton was an English astrophysicist 1882-1944] observation that the world is more like a mind than a machine, and astrophysicistsÆ reports that 90 percent of the æmatterÆ in the universe is invisible in the sense that it impacts none of their instruments, scientific skepticism has begun to subside (p. 319).ö Modern science may have found God whether they want to admit it or not. Eastern mysticism does not divide spirit from matter as we do in the West. Swami Brahmanda said: ôShow where matter ends and spirit begins. Only our own private delusion creates separate habitations for God And man (Vedanta, from the Introductory Chapter, ®1971 Harper Row, Pub.)." Quantum mechanics is the most precise area of science that man ever created to describe physical phenomenon. Its disadvantage is that it only operates for a large number of occurrences within subatomic particles; it cannot predict a single occurrence of an individual particle. Quantum mechanics provides an explanation for why the sun shines; why molecules bond themselves together; why the three states of matterùgas, liquid, solidùexist; why an iron bar magnetizes when it is placed near a magnet. On the practical side, quantum mechanics is the particular area of science that gives us our modern comforts, such as electricity, the compute chip, microwaves, lasers, and television. Quantum mechanics also provides the technology for our recent weapons of terror and destruction, such as the A-bomb and the H-bomb. Keep in mind that the science of quantum mechanics is the theory that explains the power inside atoms. What is the intent of this article? This article will compare the invisible, non-local order of our reality identified by quantum mechanics (specifically proven by the Bell Theorem) and Spirit that is invisible, omnipresent, and all in all. We are most familiar with a reality consisting of local events within space and time and one that exists and operates in a chronological framework. Quantum mechanics proves that there is a non-local part of our existence just as real as thoughts, feelings, and ideas that cannot be measured on an instrument. The invisible DNA instructions that directs our cells prove the unseen presence of the Creator in which we live, move, and have our being (Acts 17:22-28). What has science done to religious views? Theologians know that science has severely undermined the established concept of God taught in churches for the last 1500 years. As science has explained much natural phenomenon once thought divine, the image of God has transformed. Most people no longer think of God as an old man with white hair and a long beard that jumps down from a cloud to answer prayers. This has no more relevancy to us than our ancient ancestorsÆ views of the cosmos and the world dominated by primitive magic, superstitions, and myths. Most traditional religions emerged before the scientific era. (See the article in this issue on the time world religions emerged on p. 9 of the ôDid U Know ...?ö section) Even Israel was superstitious. When you study their views on the Ark of the Covenant, for example, Israel thought power was literally in that box (Acts 17:24). Initially, science was a tool for manÆs quest to understand God. Science was supposed to supply evidence of GodÆs existence that would eradicate manÆs ignorance of his creator. Scientific knowledge in the late 19th and 20th century has radically altered manÆs views of the universe and his place in it. Did manÆs view of the world change? As the birth of the Messiah changed time from B.C. to A.D., the advent of quantum mechanics changed scienceÆs old, materialistic way of viewing the world to a new, revolutionary perception (see illustration p. 16). During the scientific revolution, the philosophy of materialism was the dominate view. It is defined as follows: ôa) the