[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Intro and some questions

2015-06-26 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 25/06/2015 02:03, toki a écrit :

Hi Jonathon,

 The HelpFile documentation was originally created more or less according
 to what those spec sheets say, with, what appears to me, to be minimal
 testing of whether or not the implementation is congruent with those
 specification sheets.

Sums it up pretty well IMO. Being one of those ancient volunteers from
the days when OOo was first released, the integrated Help was actually
more complete than it is now. At some point in time (I don't remember
when exactly, but possibly between OOo 2 and OOo3 development, a
decision was made to slim down the help content, when the switch was
made to XML files instead of what I believe was a binary encoded help
system (at that time). Needless to say, this didn't improve the overall
quality and relevance of the integrated help. There are attempts at
improving it though.

I believe that there is/was an extension that facilitates writing help
content, although I haven't looked recently at how that integrates with
the project's git code repo and submission by any volunteer - probably
slightly more complicated than most people are prepared to accept. The
wiki help is supposed to allow an easier transition into allowing
volunteers to write help documentation, but again, knowing where to put
stuff, and learning to use mediawiki is an extra hurdle for a lot of
people who would be perfectly happy just writing stuff without having to
worry about code.

If Sophie or someone else from the l10n project is reading this thread,
they might be able to say more about where the project is today with
facilitating creation (and maintenance) of help content.


Alex




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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base Document - Forms

2014-09-28 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 28/09/2014 06:22, Peter Goggin a écrit :

Hi Peter,

 Access as Excel files, opened them in Librecalc, saved them in native
 librecalc format. I made sure the column definitions were correct for
 dates.

As Robert has mentioned, you must make sure that the data type stored in
Calc is really a DATE and not just a text string *formatted* as a date,
otherwise the import to Base will import the text string.

It is also not impossible that the import wizard has a bug when it comes
to interpreting dates, or that this functionality is dependent on the
version of LibreOffice you are using, as the DATE API changed sometime
during 4.1 development and has had further work done on it since then.
These changes could have had a knock on effect on the import wizard.


Alex


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: question about Base-Handbuch passage

2014-09-26 Thread Alex Thurgood

Not quite sure how all of the discussion below managed to end up off
list, but anyway, for the record :



Hi :)
If it's difficult to follow the instructions then it might just confuse
people.  Technically working is one thing but being clear and easy to
follow is quite another.

Two good people (who normally find it easy to follow instructions, and
to write/translate them) have struggled to translate this bit.  If they
couldn't cope with it then normal users, who are struggling anyway,
might find it tooo much to cope with.

It sounds like a nice to have rather than being crucial.

If it can be done reasonably quickly then great but there's no point
pouring tons of effort into it is there?
Regards from
Tom :)


On 25 September 2014 09:37, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com
wrote:

All,


That part of the handbook relates to a particular ODB file that was
made available by Robert as an extra example (Beispiel_Rechnung.odb) or
something like that, which contains the report in question (among
others).The macro is contained within that ODB file, and running the
report referenced by that macro does indeed appear to do what Robert has
written, i.e. it prints out the address of single client and associated
list of items for the bill, spread over two pages, with subtotals. If it
works, why pull it out - it can be left as an exercise for the reader to
disembowel the report and the macro and understand how it works in
detail. It shows something that can not be obtained by using the Report
Builder functions alone.

I feel it is a good example of what can be done with the Report
Builder when one comes up against its current limitations.


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: question about Base-Handbuch passage

2014-09-26 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 26/09/2014 10:22, Alex Thurgood a écrit :

And my reply to Tom's comment would be :


 
 Hi :)
 If it's difficult to follow the instructions then it might just confuse
 people.  Technically working is one thing but being clear and easy to
 follow is quite another.
 

It isn't difficult to follow, what is no doubt missing from the current
text is a direct reference to the name of the example database file, so
that the user knows which one to open and play about with to see that,
and how, it works.

1) Open the file Beispiel_Bericht_Rechnung.odb

2) Activate Macros

3) Click on Reports in the left hand pane

4) Double-click on the report named

Rechnung_gleiche_Ware_zusammengefasst_Kundenadressfeld


5) If you want to inspect the macro, go to Tools  Macros  Manage
Macros  LibreOffice Basic

6) Click on Beispiel_Bericht_Rechnung.odb  Standard  Module1

7) Select Filtern_und_Drucken, then Edit


Considering that other guides in the series deal with using macros, that
is hardly rocket science for a guide of this type, and is in keeping
IMHO with the general level of expertise promoted.


Alex





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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base Document - Forms

2014-09-21 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 21/09/2014 04:56, Peter Goggin a écrit :

Peter,

 2. Do I need all of the optional extras?
 

Off-hand, check that you also have the following packages :

libreoffice-base-drivers
libreoffice-report-builder
libreoffice-report-builder-bin


Alex


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: proposal to change the wiki presentation

2014-09-12 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 10/09/2014 20:32, Lera Goncharuk a écrit :

I find dark blue links on dark green background harder to read than on
the pale green, but that's just my 2c.


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: User guides are not the only choice

2014-08-26 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 26/08/2014 07:58, PeeWee a écrit :

Hi Peter,

 
 In my opinion, the user guides and Help are the starting point for any other 
 documentation/information about using LibreOffice. So, anybody who works on 
 other documentation should check the user guides and Help so that the 
 information is the same across all documentation. 
 
 When writing the Impress and Draw Guides, I did check the Help of each module 
 to make sure that information was reasonably consistent. It is not perfect 
 and could be improved.
 

The problem with relying on the built-in Help is that it is either
wrong, obsolete, or incomplete, especially where new features are
concerned.

Currently, writing help files for the built-in Help system is an utter
nightmare, and involves being knowledgable in, and having the time to,
wade through a vary unwieldy set of XML conventions. The end result is
that no one wants to edit the Help files to keep them up to date.
Additionally, we encounter the well known phenonemon of developer
reticence about explaining how to actually use the new feature for which
they've just coded. Getting developers to provide meaningful code
comments is hard enough, because each has their own view on how much any
given other developer should be capable of understanding. None, as far
as I know (and I'm prepared to stand corrected), other than those
working on the Help system itself, have ever written an XML help file
for the built-in Help system.

All of this makes it very hard to write accurate, up to date user
documentation, but the problem in itself isn't new, merely exacerbated
by the frenetic pace of development.


Alex



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Coordination, mentoring, etc

2014-08-26 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 26/08/2014 02:49, Jean Weber a écrit :

Hi Jean,

 
 I'm not at all sure that would help enough, because we would still
 need people who have both the time and knowledge to do the actual
 work. Our problem, AFAICT, has not been in attracting volunteers. The
 problem is attracting -- and keeping -- the right volunteers: that is,
 people with the time and knowledge.

I agree. Volunteers need both time and continued enthusiasm - I have
little time, and my own personal enthusiasm for writing/translating
documentation has waned as I have seen that it is impossible to keep up
with the pace of development and/or the new bugs that are introduced as
a result of that development. Ultimately, how one feels about the
quality of a product affects one's enthusiasm to write stuff about it.
This has caused me to focus on working on QA, rather than documentation
- after all, if the product doesn't work as intended, why not try and
get it fixed (sometimes a vain hope) rather than attempt to write
documentation which, when released, will essentially/probably be out of
date and/or inaccurate ? By the way, this is not a plug to draw people
from the doc project to QA, just my personal experience !

Documentation needs a solid base from which to work - IMO, this means
that the software shouldn't be changing its product characteristics and
features every 6 months (or less) - if you don't have that, the efforts
that go into creating and maintaining documentation for the product
imply relying on a massive documenter group to keep up and currently,
the LO documentation project doesn't have that critical mass.



Alex





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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: User guides are not the only choice

2014-08-26 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 26/08/2014 13:02, Tom Davies a écrit :

Tom,

 It would be great if people from this team could help get the translators
 version into better shape, that might mean less geeky or might be that it
 needs more reviewers.
 

There already aren't enough people here on the documentation project in
the first place to carry out regular and consistent work here - that is
the point of Jean's other post - how can you legitimately now ask them
to go and help out translating/reviewing the built-in help ?



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: EasyHack - Documentation/User Manual for New Features

2014-06-23 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 24/06/2014 03:00, Joel Madero a écrit :

Hi Joel,

 There are a few new features that have no documentation that we can find
 (ie no help and/or user manual). We have a meta bug opened:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80430
 

Every other link I clicked in that list produces a 500 Internal Server
Error.


Most of the cases lacking documentation appear to be Calc functions.
Writing documentation for them actually requires that we understand what
it is that each function is supposed to do in the first place. Without
the developer's input, at least for the parameters required (and their
order), it would appear to be more than just an Easy Hack.

Alex



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Base Handbuch v4.2?

2014-04-10 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 08/04/2014 14:10, Robert Großkopf a écrit :

Hi all,


 Same with Firebird. External firebird has only the problem: Autovalue
 isn't implemented, must be written in SQL for every table. Internal
 Firebird has too many problems yet. We hope it would be better, because
 there are functions in the external Firebird many people would need, for
 example the function List.

FWIW, I agree with Robert. Firebird is an experimental option at
present in 4.2. In other words, the user doesn't even get to see that
there is the possibility to create an embedded firebird db unless they
turn on the experimental options in LO's preferences.

Assuming that someone foolhardy enough will do that, and then complain
that it doesn't work as intended (which Robert, I, and others all know
about as we filed/validated the bug reports), I still don't think it is
worth concentrating our documentation efforts (including translation) on
an embedded db engine which still has too many failings to be of any
daily, practical, use. The aim of the tool is to be a replacement for
embedded hsqldb and for the moment, this is simply not the case.

Connecting to an external firebird db has worked for a while now anyway,
certainly before 4.2 (at least with the jdbc or odbc driver, but again
this is not part of the novelties included in 4.2.

Alex



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Template manager

2014-03-21 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 21/03/2014 01:44, Jean Weber a écrit :

Hi Jean,


 I've found what it is. If Enable experimental features is not
 selected in Options  Advanced, then the Repository button does not
 appear. What I wrote in GSCh1 therefore needs modification. Sorry
 about the confusion, John.
 

The Repository button feature was made experimental because it is
incomplete, unstable, unfinished, or however you choose to call it once
you have tried adding a few different online repositories and found that
it doesn't always work as expected ;-)

Currently, I recall having read something about the fact that GoogleDocs
repositories no longer worked, but that may, or may not, have been fixed
by now.


Alex



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1

2014-01-17 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 16/01/2014 22:45, Sevold Lloyd a écrit :

Hi Sevold,

 Has LibreOffice been certified to run under Maverick OSX 10.9.1?  If so, 
 which version should I use?

No, it is not certified, but it works nonetheless.

The app is signed with an Apple Developer ID AFAIK, but the language
packs are not.

Installation of LO, including for any language packs, or later updates,
requires you to turn off Apple's Gatekeeper service in the General
Settings. You can always turn this service on again after installation
of LO.


Alex



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: OSX version 10.9.1

2014-01-17 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 17/01/2014 14:06, Italo Vignoli a écrit :

The point is that run of the mill OSX users do not want to be turning
off a security feature that the operating system provides for them.

Telling people to turn off built-in security, install an app, and then
turn it back on again afterwards, is not the solution and will not
endear people to trying out LO, and/or keeping it. Oh wait, I forgot,
you have to turn it off again every time you do an update of LO or every
time you want to install a language pack, or else leave it off permanently.

I find it hard to accept that we advise users to upgrade their versions
of LO in general when sec vulns get fixed whilst telling the OSX
population to turn off their own security mechanisms, seems somewhat
hypocritical to me.

Of course, if you don't care, then you can leave the setting off by
default, but that is not what happens in default off the shelf sales of
Apple hard/software combinations and those are the people we are trying
to target.

Of course, none of this will be sorted until such time as LibreOffice is
available in the AppleStore as a certified app, but that will not happen
soon, if at all, if my understanding of Apple's conditions for accepting
apps is correct.


Alex





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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Version 4.0 - Enjoying it?

2013-02-13 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 12/02/2013 21:45, Italo Vignoli a écrit :

There are a number of annoying bugs in LO on OSX that make the 
experience sub-standard for most Mac lovers/aficionados :


- the whole UI look and feel - this is unlikely to change in the near 
future, unless at least one developer shows up and knows how to recode 
the interface to look and behave like an OSX app, good luck with 
interfacing that with the VCL abstraction layer that LO uses - that's 
the price of multi-OS support, although to be fair to other multi-OS 
apps, the problem really does lie in the use of the LO Abstract Window 
Toolkit, which continues to look like it came from the early 80's - 
using Glade to produce GTK-like UIs is not IMHO the solution to this 
problem, but I digress ;


- unsigned app - hey, user do you really want to allow just any app on 
your shiny OSX ? - to be fair, work is currently ongoing to resolve this ;


- drag and drop support, notably of images into Writer ;

- multimedia insertion/playback in Impress support - this has suffered 
are regression over LO 3.3.x ;


- incomplete copy/paste support - various modules support varying 
degrees of functional copy/paste or even drag and drop ;


- non-functional AFS share read/write/lock - for companies that use OSX 
as their server OS and work environment, this is a red light to 
deployment of LO ;


- accessibility issues and instability in LO when using accessibility 
tools ;


- inconsistent font rendering and kerning.


Apple users like the quasi-perfection they experience with the basic OS 
and most apps designed for it. LO does not provide that experience, and 
is in many respects still light years away from it. Even compared to 
NeoOffice, LO lacks UI finesse and OS integration.


I say all this as someone who has been using LO on Mac, and prior to 
that OOo, for nearly 10 years, and having used StarOffice, OOo, and now 
LO on Linux and occasionally Windows.



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: LDAP support removed in LO4 - Base documentation to be corrected ?

2013-01-16 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 15/01/2013 21:16, Dan Lewis a écrit :


  This points to a question that needs to be answered. When OOo 2.0
came out, there was a text box with an icon for things that were new for
2.0. Should we have one for this situation? Removal of LDAP support is
new for LO 4.0, and it is a rather important point. Or, perhaps this
should be a Caution? A Note or Tip seem to be a poor choice.


Good point, but I don't have any strong opinions either way on that, but 
yes, possibly a Caution. The same can be said of the dropping of 
StarOffice binary format support for the older binary formats, but I 
believe that this is mentioned already in the wiki.


Alex



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Tutorial - Base to PostgreSQL via SDBC 0.8.1

2012-07-07 Thread Alex Thurgood


Hi Tom,

On 07/07/2012 12:06 AM, Tom Davies wrote:






http://dcparris.net/2012/07/06/connecting-libreoffice-to-postgresql-natively/



Thanks for this link, and many thanks to the author for writing up his 
experience !



Alex


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: About FAQ

2012-01-29 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 29/01/2012 10:19, julien2412 a écrit :


Hi Julien,




On https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation#FAQ, I read this :
The French Team created an FAQ which is being translated into English
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Faq


Yes, that was Tom, I think that put that there, in response to my taking 
the tree of the French FAQ with the intention of translating it into 
English. Unfortunately, work commitments got in the way, and I haven't 
managed to get any further as yet.





Now here are the questions :
- I want to add a new entry to the FAQ : should I add it in French part,
then it'll be translated by other people ? Or should I add it in English
Faq, perhaps both ?


As far as I'm concerned, both.


- Should the FAQ be 1 big page (like English one) or several pages (like
French ones) ?


Like I said above, there should already be a skeleton structure in the 
English FAQ, which I copied over from the French FAQ (but I haven't 
checked in a while, so things might have changed).



- Is the French Team officialy in charge of increasing FAQ then some
people translate in English ? I mean is there a synchronization for example
what about if there's a add in English, should French Team detect it and add
it translated in French Faq ?


No, there was nothing official, as far as I know, it was just me being 
fed up of there being nothing equivalent to what I found was a rather 
good French approach, and so the easiest thing in my mind was to 
translate the French FAQ into English (adapting where necessary).




- What about the other languages ?


No idea. There doesn't seem to be much synchronisation between the 
various N-L groups, but that was what each group wanted originally.




- Could there be links (or 1 single link) to FAQ wiki pages from
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/faq/ ?


The Silverstripe engine originally had an automatic translation feature, 
but it was decided early on not to use it (I don't really understand by 
whom or how that decision was made, or whether it just happened). One 
of the problems, so I understood, was linked to the Virtual Domain 
linking of such translated pages (i.e. they were not visible to others 
outside of the project space in which they had been created, it was all 
somewhat over my head).



Alex


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-26 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 27/11/2011 03:25, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit :

Hi Dennis,

Thank you for your comprehensive answer, it certainly clears up a few 
things for me, even though I'm sticking to my original position of not 
wishing to dual-license any new work I might produce within the 
framework of the LibreOffice documentation project.


Whatever happens, the initial authors of a work (barring employment 
contracts and specific national copyright law that might apply to them) 
are always free to re-release their work at a later date under the terms 
that they choose.


Thanks again Dennis for your insight into how the AL2 works, much 
appreciated.



Alex



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Installing the XP-Silver theme in Ubuntu

2011-10-25 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 24/10/2011 23:41, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi Tom,


I found it!  I dunno where i found it as i installed a ton of stuff.  I can't 
believe Mac has anything like this.  It looks very Win98.  Very flat boring 
colour.  I like rich green or golds, or silver.
Regards from
Tom :)


Mac has 2 themes only by design (at least on all versions up to Snow 
Leopard, can't speak for Lion). That's how Apple works. Give the user 
little choice and make it extremely difficult and/or impossible to 
change from those choices. It also means you get a homogenous user 
experience (whether you  like it or not, but Apple couldn't care less)



Alex



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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Ping Gary S: Your edited copy of 0210WG34

2011-10-24 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 24/10/2011 06:25, Jean Weber a écrit :


Hi Jean,



On the same page, you have deleted information about downloading and
installing the Template Changer extension, without explanation. Is
this extension now shipped as part of a standard LO installation (as
some other extensions are)? I could find no evidence of that, but I
may have missed it. I have installed so many extensions at various
times that I no longer am sure which were self-installed and which
come with the program.


Just butting in here, but no, the Template Changer is not installed by 
default in current versions of LibO.


Alex


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Ping Gary S: Your edited copy of 0210WG34

2011-10-24 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 24/10/2011 10:56, Gary Schnabl a écrit :

Hi Gary,


Then, I suppose having not deleted everything from an earlier
installation might preinstall an extension anew on a reinstallation?




Yes, if you already had it, then in all likelihood, it was taken up in 
your existing configuration files when you upgraded LibO. However, this 
doesn't always work correctly with some extensions.


Alex


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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Installing the XP-Silver theme in Ubuntu

2011-10-23 Thread Alex Thurgood

Le 23/10/2011 11:04, Jean Weber a écrit :

Hi Jean,


Alas, the installation and activation instructions appear to not be
applicable to Ubuntu 11.10, which doesn't have the range of choices in
System  Preferences  Appearance that earlier versions did. I don't
know yet whether the function is hidden somewhere else, or if one
needs to install the Gnome Tweak Tool, or what one can do. I only
discovered this today and haven't seriously started researching the
matter.


It has been hidden, but apparently there is a way to get back some of 
the old functionality :


http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html

Alex



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