[e-gold-list] IntGold Withdrawal Problem
Friends, Recently we read Andrei's problem of withdrawal from debit card of IntGold. 24 hours before I decided to withdraw IntGold fund via e-gold. For that, I sent the fund $449.95 worth of IntGold to IntGold Company id: 1 to credit my e-gold account. The fund was transferred successfully to IntGold but the computer gave the notice that transfer was failed because my computer hanged in the process. I am not able to suggest my e-gold account to IntGold company with their system. I promptly emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] to notify them and complete the withdrawal. After 1 hour, I received the receipt of my payment to IntGold via email. Then I forwarded same email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for the reminder. Till time, I did not receive any response with IntGold. I know that respected list member like Ragnar and Graham can help me for the justice if necessary. Let us wait and see the reality. With Much Respect, Yog Yatry Osho Kala Group Kathmandu, Nepal --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: CASHCARDS
Subject: CASHCARDS: noone cares that they ran with the money? From: Patrick Verbeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick, I cannot find you as being one of our Members Who are you and what is your complaint ? I have sent you emails to offer assistance, but you do not respond. If you have a legitimate complaint, let us know and we can resolve it for you. Voicing your complaints on the e-gold is great, but it does not solve your personal support issued. Please contact us directly, and we can assist you. Yours in Success, Steve Renner, Managing Director Cash Cards International, LLC US Support Offices: 250 Second Ave S Suite # 145 Minneapolis, MN 55401 PH: (612) 332-6025 FX: (612) 332-6032 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] CyberFrontier Hosting // DDOS attack // Finale
Hello Everyone, It appears that we do have a few clients hosting with us whom we can't contact. Especially among the Privacy Hosting packages there are several clients we could not send their new access details, because the mail box the hosting account had been opened with either does not exist anymore, or is full. If you used to have a site hosted on our server05 and have not yet received your new log-in details, please contact us with your original user name, password, and of course domain name. This obviously means, we are pretty much back in business, managed to grow despite the attacks. Of course, we do regret the hardship that the downtime cause for everyone and if anyone needs help installing databases from the backups, feel free to email us. Cheers and thanks for all the kind mails and offers of help. Robert. budget privacy website hosting http://www.cyberfrontier.net e-commerce e-business services http://www.cyfrocash.com budget domain registrations http://www.cyberfrontier.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: My INTGold / INGold Debit Card
Hi Andrei, I have recently purchased intgold debit card and have used it a couple of times . I have read the Card announcement at INTGold site: https://intgold.com/m/debit.cgi/1. Then I asked INTGold about the terms and conditions and so on - NO RESPONSE. I also had similar problems while contacting intgold support (email) it appears that they do not respond to email queries :( The Card arrived within two weeks via Global priority mail (internationally) together with Cardholder Agreement and instruction. The card arrived with $0.00 balance not $10.00 as it was announced before purchasing. ARE YOU SURE THAT THE CARD IS ACTIVATED ? I recieved my card with in 12 days of ordering and preloaded with $11 in it. I got a preactivated card . Unfortunately the loading fee is 2% by e-gold not 1.5% as it was announced before purchasing. Then I loaded the card by e-gold. The real fee was 2% + $1.5. It took around 1.5 days. For Loading the card i used GOLDNOW.st I recently requested for a funding on Sunday Still waiting for it :) It takes 3-4 days to fund the card (min.) . But the best part is no loading fees is charged by goldnow the only fees you have to pay is $1.5 flat which is the fees for card to card transfer . Also Graham Kelly the owner of goldnow is an active member of this list . I have tried to withdraw funds: CAN NOT PROCESS TRANSACTION (834). Then I tried at another ATM network - the same result. I mailed to admin and send them image of the ATM receipt - NO RESPONSE. Hmmm. just try calling their Customer Support number that came with your CARD . They do not answer any emails hope they answer the phone calls . ;) Hope this helps . elogik. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Graham Kelly/GoldNow is only a marketing guy +++ vermycycle project?
he is great in announcing great things. but thats all. very late funding and very unfavourable rates and terms of business. by the way what happened to your vermicycle? project which you heavily advertised here? i assume it was a big success. ;-) i am waiting for your creative explanations ;-) maybe the summer was too hot and noone wanted to invest with goldlater ;-) -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Some reasons why you shouldn't any business with GrahamKelly/Gold now +++ Your GoldNow.st Order #EX-12453 REFUND
No. 1: The company name itself is false advertising. As everybody knows it should read GoldNever or GoldLater. No. 2: This guy offers exchanges to DMT/ALTA but has obviously no clue how it works. See below. Stay tuned. From now on more reasons will follow every day. Garry, Thank you for the reminder. Having to Claim the amount is unusual. It's now claimed. I will credit your e-gold account today. Graham Kelly CEO On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:10:39 -0500, Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: again. still waiting for the money (e-gold). according to our alta account history you still haven't claimed the money we payed to you. date: 2003-11-21 From: Graham Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:43:03 +1300 To: Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Your GoldNow.st Order #EX-12453 So, we are all newbies together... how delightful! :) Transfer the funds back into my USD account D1FB86F2219EE12B6949C2A777E631B3D3F5A58F9B, and I will credit your e-gold account as soon as I receive the funds back, same day. Cheers! GK -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] debit card funding delays grrr!
Guys, We are aware of recent past delays with debit card funding. Basically, GoldNow has asked for (and paid for) ALL THE CURRENT debit card funding orders, and we are waiting for the card funder to do his job. AS SOON as the credits hit our account, the cards will be credited to all customers immediately. (thank you for your custom, and patience) Apparently, the ThanksGiving holiday slowed every bank in the US down to slower than a crawl, as per usual. On another happier note, today we signed a deal with an another debit card supplier, with offices in the US, but out of Netherlands Antilles. (These guys are operating a digital ecurrency, and didn't even know it! I've been educating them...) As a result, GoldNow will be able to create a VIRTUAL Visa card for y'all literally within *seconds*, as well as fund it immediately!! (Well, maybe not ALL 32,000+ GoldNow customers, within seconds!) The card will also have a CVV2 number. This is to be used for online internet purchases only. You can also order an attached ATM card, which attaches to the SAME account. Card to card transfers are their specialty. We will be selling this package, an ATM card, plus a Visa virtual debit card. Stay tuned for further announcements... I'm excited, AGAIN! Graham Kelly CEO On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 00:25:25 -0800, Nits [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi Andrei, I have recently purchased intgold debit card and have used it a couple of times . For Loading the card i used GOLDNOW.st I recently requested for a funding on Sunday Still waiting for it :) It takes 3-4 days to fund the card (min.) . But the best part is no loading fees is charged by goldnow the only fees you have to pay is $1.5 flat which is the fees for card to card transfer . Also Graham Kelly the owner of goldnow is an active member of this list . - GoldNow http://www.GoldNow.St Primary Customer Service +61 3 9776-4886 US Phone 1-866-999-1717 US Fax 1-213-559-8555 UK Phone +44 (0) 709 233-7612 UK Phone +44 (0) 709 201-4015 CEO UK Fax +44 (0) 870 135-0279 'I was not born to be a second-hander' - Ayn Rand --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!
Guys, This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded him. He gave us $580 USD worth of e-gold, which was returned in *full*, less the DMT transfer fees, plus an apology for the delay. Apparantly, the value of gold reduced by some $13 odd! (Incidently, we would have refunded his e-gold for EXACTLY the same amount had the ecurrency value increased... he could have made $ on the refund!) Sorry, Garry, we cannot guarantee the cost of gold on a future date. In any case, we ADVERTISE this on every order email confirmation, plus it's fully viewable/available on our site FAQ. We have 30,000+ happy customers, who KNOW this. Also, GoldNow is not a gold futures dealer... yet! (Stay tuned!) Garry, Please keep those *reasons* coming... Having said that, we are not perfect, and we DO make mistakes occassionally. Just like you, Garry! GoldNow DMT funding/redemptions are now fully available, and operational. For larger amounts, contact myself for delivery times. Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:48:50 -0500, Internet Investment Group LLC Internet Investment Group LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No. 1: The company name itself is false advertising. As everybody knows it should read GoldNever or GoldLater. No. 2: This guy offers exchanges to DMT/ALTA but has obviously no clue how it works. See below. Stay tuned. From now on more reasons will follow every day. - GoldNow http://www.GoldNow.St Primary Customer Service +61 3 9776-4886 US Phone 1-866-999-1717 US Fax 1-213-559-8555 UK Phone +44 (0) 709 233-7612 UK Phone +44 (0) 709 201-4015 CEO UK Fax +44 (0) 870 135-0279 'I was not born to be a second-hander' - Ayn Rand --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!
Graham Kelly wrote: This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded him. He gave us $580 USD worth of e-gold, which was returned in *full*, less the DMT transfer fees, plus an apology for the delay. Apparantly, the value of gold reduced by some $13 odd! (Incidently, we would have refunded his e-gold for EXACTLY the same amount had the ecurrency value increased... he could have made $ on the refund!) The ethical way to deal with a situation like this is to return the exact amount of gold by weight to the customer, not the USD value. Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] default to USD/weight?
Sidd, I wouldn't normally disagree. However, the GoldNow terms of trade specifically advises that we default to the USD value. But, I will consider changing that in future, depending on feedback. Besides, that not an ethical error, just a trading reality. Thanks Sidd! GK On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 12:54:57 +1300, Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Graham Kelly wrote: This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded him. He gave us $580 USD worth of e-gold, which was returned in *full*, less the DMT transfer fees, plus an apology for the delay. Apparantly, the value of gold reduced by some $13 odd! (Incidently, we would have refunded his e-gold for EXACTLY the same amount had the ecurrency value increased... he could have made $ on the refund!) The ethical way to deal with a situation like this is to return the exact amount of gold by weight to the customer, not the USD value. - GoldNow http://www.GoldNow.St Primary Customer Service +61 3 9776-4886 US Phone 1-866-999-1717 US Fax 1-213-559-8555 UK Phone +44 (0) 709 233-7612 UK Phone +44 (0) 709 201-4015 CEO UK Fax +44 (0) 870 135-0279 'I was not born to be a second-hander' - Ayn Rand --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] SS Republic wreck is FOUND!!!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/12/1201_031201_republic.html or http://makeashorterlink.com/?F278153B6 with $400,000 - oops, I mean $180 MILLION (now!) worth of gold! And it's in INTERNATIONAL waters, so finders-keepers is still possible! WooHoo! Hopefully good video soon of the loot. JMR --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: default to USD/weight?
Graham Kelly wrote: I wouldn't normally disagree. However, the GoldNow terms of trade specifically advises that we default to the USD value. Besides, that not an ethical error, just a trading reality. No, you are incorrect, it is a matter of ethics. If someone gives you something and you wish to return it, you must return exactly what they gave you, not some arbitrary non-equivalent valuation of it. You were paid a certain weight of gold... all e-gold payments are settled in weight of gold, as clearly stated on the e-gold web site. The exchange rates are merely for convenience. In order to ethically return an e-gold payment, it is necessary to return the weight of gold. Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Ethical refunds
This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded him. He gave us $580 USD worth of e-gold ... Apparantly, the value of gold reduced by some $13 odd! ... Graham Kelly CEO The ethical way to deal with a situation like this is to return the exact amount of gold by weight to the customer, not the USD value. Sidd. Why is that the case when the transaction was done in USD, and the site/emails contain notices stating such an eventuality? If the reverse had happened, and the exact weight was returned, the client would be raising hell that $580 was spent, but only ~$567 (minus fees) was refunded. A transaction should be unraveled in the same manner that it was entered. Or do you mean ... The ethical way is to always take the short end of the stick, regardless of circumstances Which is an extreme version of The customer is always right Viking Coder http://www.2cw.org/?VikingCoder here's your #!$ password - --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: SS Republic wreck is FOUND!!!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/12/1201_031201_republic.html or http://makeashorterlink.com/?F278153B6 with $400,000 - oops, I mean $180 MILLION (now!) worth of gold! And it's in INTERNATIONAL waters, so finders-keepers is still possible! WooHoo! Hopefully good video soon of the loot. JMR To date, more than 750 gold coins have been recovered. Some 60 percent of them are Coronet Head 20 Dollar Double Eagles and the balance are Coronet Head 10 Dollar Eagles. ... holy shit --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds
Viking, Viking Coder wrote: Why is that the case when the transaction was done in USD, and the site/emails contain notices stating such an eventuality? Please read my previous message explaining the situation. If the reverse had happened, and the exact weight was returned, the client would be raising hell that $580 was spent, but only ~$567 (minus fees) was refunded. It would be easy to explain the logic of the refund if it was done correctly as I explained. A transaction should be unraveled in the same manner that it was entered. No, that is not correct... see my other message. Or do you mean ... The ethical way is to always take the short end of the stick, regardless of circumstances Which is an extreme version of The customer is always right No, I don't mean that, I mean there is only one correct solution, no matter which way the USD value of gold moves. Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds
Please read my previous message explaining the situation. That message was posted while I composing mine. It would be easy to explain the logic of the refund if it was done correctly as I explained. Yes, but is it a matter of ethics, or of business practices/methods? I'm not arguing backed vs. fiat, or base system denominations, but inter-currency transaction roll-backs. When a transaction is made across non-equivalent currencies, is there an *ethical* means of determining what amount should be refunded? How is this situation usually handled (fiat - fiat transactions)? Is the merchant/payee's currency used as the basis for refund, or the customer/payer's currency used? Viking Coder http://www.2cw.org/?VikingCoder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Ethical refunds
Viking Coder wrote: Yes, but is it a matter of ethics, or of business practices/methods? When a transaction is made across non-equivalent currencies, is there an *ethical* means of determining what amount should be refunded? There was no transaction across non-equivalent currencies, gold was paid, and gold should be returned. If the customer had paid Graham 500 USD, Graham would be correct to return USD, but that was not the case, Graham was paid a weight of gold. It is impossible to Spend USD with e-gold, and this is clearly stated on the e-gold site. Quote e-gold Account User Agreement: 1.12. Spend means the act of transferring value between e-gold accounts in fulfillment of a payment order entered by User. Spends are accounted by weight and convey title to that precise fine weight of metal. Spends may not exceed Available Balance. How is this situation usually handled (fiat - fiat transactions)? Is the merchant/payee's currency used as the basis for refund, or the customer/payer's currency used? This is not the issue under discussion, no exchange between different currencies had taken place. Sidd. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!
From: Sidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Graham Kelly wrote: This person wants me to refund the difference in the cost of the e-gold when he delivered it to us, after he cancelled his order, and we refunded him. He gave us $580 USD worth of e-gold, which was returned in *full*, less the DMT transfer fees, plus an apology for the delay. Apparantly, the value of gold reduced by some $13 odd! (Incidently, we would have refunded his e-gold for EXACTLY the same amount had the ecurrency value increased... he could have made $ on the refund!) The ethical way to deal with a situation like this is to return the exact amount of gold by weight to the customer, not the USD value. It depends. If someone sells their gold for a certain amount of USD, say for a wire or check, and he later wants a refund, I think it is proper to deal in USD. The gold was sold at the time of the order and you are now dealing with dollars. If the order had been completed, that is the amount of dollars he would have gotten. You wouldn't want customers canceling because the price of gold went up and they wish they would have sold later. I'm not sure in the case of DMT since I'm not that familiar with it. If it was for a certain amount of -gold- in the DMT system, then the amt. of gold should be returned. - John Kyle --- http://cambist.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
[e-gold-list] Re: Some reasons why you should do MUCH business with Graham Kelly/GoldNOW!
It depends. If someone sells their gold for a certain amount of USD, say for a wire or check, and he later wants a refund, I think it is proper to deal in USD. The gold was sold at the time of the order and you are now dealing with dollars. Nuh. Note that you say John The gold was sold at the time of the order if it was sold the order is completed and that's the end of it. It's now a USD amount. You have some USD that is theirs. Send them USD. (If instead of USD - at this later time - for some reason - you decided to send them wheat, gold, cars or paperbacks, that is a different separate negotiation to have.) If for some reason the deal - the sale - is being broken, is not proceeding, there is NO sale, you would - of course - as Sidd points out - give back whatever it was they gave you. If they gave you cheese, give them back cheese. In this case they gave you gold, give them back gold. There is no other possible viewpoint. That is the only conceivable meaning of cancelling the sale. I dunno why you bother getting into these arguments Sidd :) By all means, two parties could enter in to a contract where in the case of a dispute or a broken deal some other sort of thinking would prevail. Graham may have some sort of arrangement like this on his web site. If the order had been completed, that is the amount of dollars he would have gotten. You wouldn't want customers canceling because the price of gold went up and they wish they would have sold later. Graham says in the example the customer cancelled, and your example John is about a customer cancelling. You can't let customers cancel a sell order of e-gold for obvious reasons, ie you will have no business. If the price of gold has skyrocketed in the interim, the MM would be nuts to let the customer magically cancel. If the price of gold has plummeted in the interim, the MM would not want to do some sort of price based return --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomized Keyboard (SRK) when accessing your e-gold account(s) via the web and shopping cart interfaces to help thwart keystroke loggers and common viruses.
