Re: [gentoo-user] kde - limit an icon to a single desktop
On 30 December 2006 20:09, »Q« wrote: This would be better asked in a KDE user forum, but I'm just getting Gentoo set up on a laptop and haven't found any KDE groups/lists yet. You can find all KDE-related lists on http://lists.kde.org. Is there a way to have an app-launching icon appear on one or more of the desktops but not on others? I did STFW, but I can't find anything about it. AFAIK, that's not possible. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
Hi list,
some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 (stable version). Since
then i've experienced complete freezes of the machine (nothing
responds, even external ping on the network) when USB devices are
mounted. In case nothing is connected to the USB drive the machine can
stay online without *any* freeze.
The only thing i've done is to create local udev rules to facilitate
the mounting of these devices: this is an example of its structure. As
you know as of udev-089 some keyword has changed (as SYSFS-- ATTRS).
Before this upgrade everything was working correctly.
SUBSYSTEMS==usb,KERNEL==sd*,ATTRS{serial}==634418122141473,ATTRS{product}==128MB,NAME=%k,SYMLINK=chiavina
The emerge --info is in the attachment.
Any one has experiences such an hard lock?
Regards,
and have a nice 2007,
m
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Re: [gentoo-user] libGl.so.1 / prelinking
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Re: [gentoo-user] When could XGL support my video card ATI Radeon M300??
I was interested in 3D desktop of XGL, but my video has not been supported till now... This is the info of my card: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Radeon Mobility M300] So, is there a hope for me to use XGL in future??? It's only thing we have :) My card is ATI Mobility X700 -- as far as I know, it must be supported. But... I have a lot of problems with fglrx = x+composite+aiglx doesn't work, and xgl behaves very strange. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs nvidia-legacy-drivers
Hi, is there a way von x86 that I can keep nvidia-drivers and a emerge -uDp world does not come up telling me that this is blocking the legacy-drivers package? The legacy package is an older version that keeps freezing my X, so I would prefer the new one. Regards, Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elwood@agouros.de Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ wants to install xorg-server
On Sunday 31 December 2006 03:44, Enrico Weigelt wrote: The X use flag is quite overloaded. It's exact meaning varies with different types of packages. In the gtk+ case it just pulls the xorg-server. Where exactly is this defined ? The X useflag doesnt seem to appear in the gtk ebuild. In the virtualx eclass which the gtk+ ebuild inherits [1]. # grep virtualx `portageq portdir`/x11-libs/gtk+/gtk+-2.10.6.ebuild inherit gnome.org flag-o-matic eutils debug autotools virtualx # grep 'X?' `portageq portdir`/eclass/virtualx.eclass DEPEND=X? ( || ( x11-base/xorg-server virtual/x11 ) ) [1] http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/using-eclasses/index.html -- Bo Andresen pgpySq5bJNH1U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge confused about gnome-icon-theme version?
On 12/31/06, Daniel D Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 09:25, Daniel D Jones wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # emerge -s gnome-icon-theme Searching... [ Results for search key : gnome-icon-theme ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme Latest version available: 2.16.1 Latest version installed: 2.16.1 ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # emerge gnome-applets Emerging (1 of 1) gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.16.2 to ... checking for GIT... configure: error: Package requirements (gnome-icon-theme = 2.15.91) were not met: Requested 'gnome-icon-theme = 2.15.91' but version of gnome-icon-theme is 2.10.1 Something is confused somewhere about the version of gnome-icon-theme installed. I've resynced and reemerged gnome-icon-theme with no success. Any suggestions? It appears no one has any suggestions. Can someone perhaps tell me how portage goes about determining the installed version to give me a direction to start trying to figure this out. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi there, All installed packages are recorded in /var/db/pkg so in your case you can check /var/db/pkg/x11-themes/ for gnome-icon-theme packages installed. Maybe stating the obvious here, but have you tried to remove and then install gnome-icon-theme again? Happy new year all !!!
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge confused about gnome-icon-theme version?
On 12/31/06, Mark M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/31/06, Daniel D Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 09:25, Daniel D Jones wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # emerge -s gnome-icon-theme Searching... [ Results for search key : gnome-icon-theme ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme Latest version available: 2.16.1 Latest version installed: 2.16.1 ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # emerge gnome-applets Emerging (1 of 1) gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.16.2 to ... checking for GIT... configure: error: Package requirements (gnome-icon-theme = 2.15.91) were not met: Requested 'gnome-icon-theme = 2.15.91' but version of gnome-icon-theme is 2.10.1 Something is confused somewhere about the version of gnome-icon-theme installed. I've resynced and reemerged gnome-icon-theme with no success. Any suggestions? It appears no one has any suggestions. Can someone perhaps tell me how portage goes about determining the installed version to give me a direction to start trying to figure this out. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi there, All installed packages are recorded in /var/db/pkg so in your case you can check /var/db/pkg/x11-themes/ for gnome-icon-theme packages installed. Maybe stating the obvious here, but have you tried to remove and then install gnome-icon-theme again? I've resynced and reemerged gnome-icon-theme with no success. Happy new year all !!! Try : pkg-config gnome-icon-theme --modversion if that reports a wrong number then you may have an old pkgconfig file lying around making it go nuts. For some odd reason i notice the gnome-icon-theme package-config files not being in their standard /usr/lib/pkgconfig but in /usr/share/pkgconfig with about 2 other files ( gtk-doc , icon-naming-utils ) and I wonder why. But cat any flles matching gnome-icon-theme.pc in both those dirs and if you have more than one, then that could be your problem, and deleting the older one -should- do the trick. -- /ent Fredric (aka theJackal) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Documentation Index
On Sunday 31 December 2006 03:20, Jerry McBride wrote: I've been doing a similar project using python. I scan the entire filesystem for html, pdf and chm files. Once found, I grab matching portage names and build a master html index for use with apache... How do you view chm files in Linux? -- Regards, Mick pgpNXj5Kui3Ke.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Documentation Index
Mick wrote: On Sunday 31 December 2006 03:20, Jerry McBride wrote: I've been doing a similar project using python. I scan the entire filesystem for html, pdf and chm files. Once found, I grab matching portage names and build a master html index for use with apache... How do you view chm files in Linux? * x11-misc/xchm Latest version available: 1.7.1 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 345 kB Homepage: http://xchm.sf.net Description: Utility for viewing Microsoft .chm files. License: GPL-2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How can I check broken dependencies?
emerge -C something1, smth2, ... I want to know if there are any packages which doesn't work after that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Driver of Intel 945's video card?
Hi,everybody! When i do xorgconfig,I choose i810 to my video card driver of intel 945. I can enter gnome but I found something is wrong: The fonts in some vertical line is not clear,no matter the english characters or the my local charcters. I am sure my fonts.conf is correct because I the same setting in my another machine which the video card is not intel 945. there are some informaiton below: #lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 945G/P Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 945G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) And my display is 17inch's LCD screen. So I think maybe the driver is not very appropriate because I know the i810 driver is very old. I need your advices. Thanks in advanced! -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I check broken dependencies?
2006/12/31, Леонид Моргун [EMAIL PROTECTED]: emerge -C something1, smth2, ... I want to know if there are any packages which doesn't work after that. #revdep-rebuild -p #revdep-rebuild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin + razor - learning
Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, I've set up spamassassin + razor on one host, which is accessed from some other host via spamc. Is it possible to learn/report-to razor via spamc, too ? Spamassassin has an autolearn hook, but I don't know if the razor/pyzor/etc. plugins use it, or if it's only used by the bayes engine. I'd like to know, though, so why don't you ask on a Spamassassin ML and report back here? ^^ Regards, T. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server
Hi,everyone! I want to install gentoo in my Hewlett-Packard server.It's my first time to install linux in a server.I want to know that which *.iso I should download and burn into the CD? Is it the install-hppa-2006.1-universal.iso all right? And do you have any other advice? Thanks in advanced! -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Few problems
I have few problems with my gentoo. =// 1. After X WM (I use KDE, in fluxbox it was same) my PC have insane CPU and RAM usage. Why? =// [2.0GHz AMD, 512MB RAM] 2. How I can setup autostart in KDE? (i wanna run firefox etc. automaticaly) And last problem, but this is more wine-related. I have big game freezes in Ragnarok Online (kRO version), and when i wanna run updater, it ever falls down. Thanks and Happy New Year Everbody. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] seamonkey + updates
On Wednesday 27 December 2006 15:26, Enrico Weigelt wrote: is it possible to build seamonkey without the whole updating (and check-for-update) stuff ? I have absolutely no idea about what this question means... -- Bo Andresen pgpMFQJFyE9yS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Few problems
On Sunday, 31 December 2006 22:21, Pavel Kouřil wrote: I have few problems with my gentoo. =// 1. After X WM (I use KDE, in fluxbox it was same) my PC have insane CPU and RAM usage. Why? =// [2.0GHz AMD, 512MB RAM] Run 'top' to see which processes are causing this. 2. How I can setup autostart in KDE? (i wanna run firefox etc. automaticaly) You can put scripts and symlinks in ~/.kde/Autostart/ to run whatever you want on login. And last problem, but this is more wine-related. I have big game freezes in Ragnarok Online (kRO version), and when i wanna run updater, it ever falls down. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=928 Have a look at this page on the wine website to see if there are any bug reports or solutions relating to your problem: Thanks and Happy New Year Everbody. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] seamonkey + updates
You grow them in a tank and you should add water if they are not working. happy new year party people... Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone -Original Message- From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:01:32 To:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] seamonkey + updates On Wednesday 27 December 2006 15:26, Enrico Weigelt wrote: is it possible to build seamonkey without the whole updating (and check-for-update) stuff ? I have absolutely no idea about what this question means... -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] spamassassin + razor - learning
Thomas Rösner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Spamassassin has an autolearn hook, but I don't know if the razor/pyzor/etc. plugins use it, or if it's only used by the bayes engine. I'd like to know, though, so why don't you ask on a Spamassassin ML and report back here? ^^ Autolearn only affects the Bayes engine. To report to Razor (and Pyzor, DCC and Spamcop if configured) you have to use 'spamassassin --report' (for spam) or 'spamassassin --revoke' (to report as Ham messages which Razor has marked as spam). These also update Bayes. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
Very good ideas in this thread. Why not open a thread in the Gentoo forums and start a public discussion there? In regard to your question, have you thought about the --oneshot option? That way you can manually upgrade the packages you see fit. James wrote: Mike Myers fluffymikey at gmail.com writes: I think I like your idea better, about distributing binaries. Do you know if something like this is being worked on? I'm certain that a common method to this, like what you're saying, would allow Gentoo to become scalable to the point of being easily usable on a large scale. It's a lot of work. I'll be pusing binaries to lots of systems, but, it going to take me months to get ready. I was hoping others with similar goals would 'band together' to come up with a solution that combines the needs for the casual user as well as those of us that want to manage dozens to hundres of Gentoo systems. I need to refine the idea, and my goal is mostly embedded gentoo sytems, but, they are very similar to gentoo-servers. Expanding the idea to workstation, at least for core software, is not that difficult. I do not intend to get into 'competiion' with the devs, particularly on applications that are big, complex, or prone to breakage (OO) It'd really be better to do this as a group, but, I've found little interest, most probably due to the fact that most folks are already bogged down with their own ambitions. James
Re: [gentoo-user] Few problems
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Sunday, 31 December 2006 22:21, Pavel Kouřil wrote: I have few problems with my gentoo. =// 1. After X WM (I use KDE, in fluxbox it was same) my PC have insane CPU and RAM usage. Why? =// [2.0GHz AMD, 512MB RAM] Run 'top' to see which processes are causing this. In top isn't anything suspicious. 2. How I can setup autostart in KDE? (i wanna run firefox etc. automaticaly) You can put scripts and symlinks in ~/.kde/Autostart/ to run whatever you want on login. If it is shell script, with chmod a+x, it only opens in KWrite at the start. =/ And last problem, but this is more wine-related. I have big game freezes in Ragnarok Online (kRO version), and when i wanna run updater, it ever falls down. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=928 Have a look at this page on the wine website to see if there are any bug reports or solutions relating to your problem: There isn't anything about it. It was firt place, where I searched for solutions. Thanks and Happy New Year Everbody.
Re: [gentoo-user] Documentation Index
On Sunday 31 December 2006 10:57, iddqd wrote: Mick wrote: On Sunday 31 December 2006 03:20, Jerry McBride wrote: I've been doing a similar project using python. I scan the entire filesystem for html, pdf and chm files. Once found, I grab matching portage names and build a master html index for use with apache... How do you view chm files in Linux? * x11-misc/xchm Latest version available: 1.7.1 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 345 kB Homepage: http://xchm.sf.net Description: Utility for viewing Microsoft .chm files. License: GPL-2 Sweet. Thanks! Happy New Year to all! :) -- Regards, Mick pgpLqMBBIQHcg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge confused about gnome-icon-theme version?
On Sunday 31 December 2006 00:59, Daniel D Jones wrote: On Friday 29 December 2006 09:25, Daniel D Jones wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # emerge -s gnome-icon-theme Searching... [ Results for search key : gnome-icon-theme ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme Latest version available: 2.16.1 Latest version installed: 2.16.1 ... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/ # emerge gnome-applets Emerging (1 of 1) gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.16.2 to ... checking for GIT... configure: error: Package requirements (gnome-icon-theme = 2.15.91) were not met: Requested 'gnome-icon-theme = 2.15.91' but version of gnome-icon-theme is 2.10.1 Something is confused somewhere about the version of gnome-icon-theme installed. I've resynced and reemerged gnome-icon-theme with no success. Any suggestions? It appears no one has any suggestions. Can someone perhaps tell me how portage goes about determining the installed version to give me a direction to start trying to figure this out. This isn't exactly portage determining the installed version of gnome-icon-theme. It's the configure script of gnome-applets which is unaware of the existance of portage checking the environment before the actual compile. It uses the return value of: # pkg-config --exists --print-errors gnome-icon-theme = 2.15.91 to determine whether it's requirement is fulfilled. Maybe you have some orphaned pkg-config file (.pc) as Kent suggests. The output of e.g.: # pkg-config --debug --modversion gnome-icon-theme 21 | grep gnome-icon-theme will tell you where the .pc file is. If you have app-portage/gentoolkit installed you can use `equery belongs $FILE` to see if it's orphaned (i.e. if it belongs to no package.). Orphaned files like that can be safely deleted. HtH. -- Bo Andresen pgpqjzcfE4I9t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I check broken dependencies?
On 12/31/06, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2006/12/31, Леонид Моргун [EMAIL PROTECTED]: emerge -C something1, smth2, ... I want to know if there are any packages which doesn't work after that. #revdep-rebuild -p #revdep-rebuild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list You can use equery d something to check if there any direct dependencies or equery d -D something to check for indirect too, this will tell you what packages are depended on this one. Happy New Year all !!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Few problems
061231 Pavel Kou??il wrote: After X WM (I use KDE) my PC have insane CPU and RAM usage. it's Conk, and how is pc slow. This can happen with some Internet sites, esp with Javascript or Flash. Try something safe like the Gentoo WWW site: does it happen then ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Few problems
Philip Webb wrote: 061231 Pavel Kou??il wrote: After X WM (I use KDE) my PC have insane CPU and RAM usage. it's Conk, and how is pc slow. This can happen with some Internet sites, esp with Javascript or Flash. Try something safe like the Gentoo WWW site: does it happen then ? This happens when I have only running X + WM.. No other programs.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Sunday 31 December 2006 12:18, Aniruddha wrote: Very good ideas in this thread. Why not open a thread in the Gentoo forums and start a public discussion there? In regard to your question, have you thought about the --oneshot option? That way you can manually upgrade the packages you see fit. James wrote: Mike Myers fluffymikey at gmail.com writes: I think I like your idea better, about distributing binaries. Do you know if something like this is being worked on? I'm certain that a common method to this, like what you're saying, would allow Gentoo to become scalable to the point of being easily usable on a large scale. It's a lot of work. I'll be pusing binaries to lots of systems, but, it going to take me months to get ready. I was hoping others with similar goals would 'band together' to come up with a solution that combines the needs for the casual user as well as those of us that want to manage dozens to hundres of Gentoo systems. I need to refine the idea, and my goal is mostly embedded gentoo sytems, but, they are very similar to gentoo-servers. Expanding the idea to workstation, at least for core software, is not that difficult. I do not intend to get into 'competiion' with the devs, particularly on applications that are big, complex, or prone to breakage (OO) It'd really be better to do this as a group, but, I've found little interest, most probably due to the fact that most folks are already bogged down with their own ambitions. Last few unstructured [OT] thoughts for the year . . . There's been a couple of threads on Gentoo going out of fashion, the Linux desktop failing to dethrone M$Windoze, etc. I think that this particular thread is interesting from another perspective, too. Not fighting past battles (which distro should/could/would dominate the server market and which the desktop market), but fighting potential future battles. If you're interested, read on. The PC centric desktop on which M$ built their business model may be under threat. If the WebOS [1], GoogleOS [2], internet based desktop [3], etc. take off, then what will enable Gentoo to become a predominant system of choice both in the server and in the thin client markets? I don't think that Redmond will have much of a problem packaging a ROM embedded version of a thin client system and pushing it to all the Joe-public out there, who currently (mostly) blindly buy their products. Inertia may of course lead to their demise if they continue to market the individual desktop PC solution, but I wouldn't count on it. The question then is what should Gentoo do to establish itself as a major enabler and shaper in such a potential future? What are the market segments and sub-segments and how do they come together (a home PC is these days a desktop apps suite; a games machine; a media center with CD/DVD/TV/music playing and recording capabilities, etc.) Device and information convergence is increasing. Some people will undoubtedly run their own home servers with their chosen desktop apps and access them via FreeNX VNC. For them Gentoo will be an option to consider. However, I think that the vast majority will not own or configure their own remote access desktops. They will readily subscribe to the latest M$ shop offering along with their free Hotmail account. How could Gentoo increase its market share if such a potential future is to occur, or even better: how could Gentoo Foundation become pivotal in making it happen while retaining its values. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_operating_system [2] http://www.kottke.org/05/08/googleos-webos but there's many more articles blogs out there; e.g. [3] http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=166 Happy New Year to All! -- Regards, Mick pgpcXhoAJShp8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Few problems
Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Sunday, 31 December 2006 23:33, Pavel Kouřil wrote: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Sunday, 31 December 2006 23:02, Pavel Kouřil wrote: Raymond Lewis Rebbeck wrote: On Sunday, 31 December 2006 22:21, Pavel Kouřil wrote: I have few problems with my gentoo. =// 1. After X WM (I use KDE, in fluxbox it was same) my PC have insane CPU and RAM usage. Why? =// [2.0GHz AMD, 512MB RAM] Run 'top' to see which processes are causing this. In top isn't anything suspicious. What is telling you that you have high cpu and ram usage? Conky, and how is pc slow. =/ Conky might be showing all ram usage, without telling you whether it's disk cache or applications using it. Take a look at kinfocenter's memory page and see what it says for application ram usage. Unused ram is wasted ram and it's likely your high ram usage is simply disk cache, which is good. Kinfocenter shows the same.. 22,71/503,58MB RAM free, which is like a 95% in conky. And last problem, but this is more wine-related. I have big game freezes in Ragnarok Online (kRO version), and when i wanna run updater, it ever falls down. http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=928 Have a look at this page on the wine website to see if there are any bug reports or solutions relating to your problem: There isn't anything about it. It was firt place, where I searched for solutions.
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy dialup for unprivileged user
On Saturday 30 December 2006 22:00, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Easy dialup for unprivileged user': Now it pretty much does - but to trigger the ppp interface 'up' state I find myself doing stuff like: $ ping ip of ISP nameserver or similar, because hostname access will just return host not found immediately without trying to bring the link up. So while this workaround is ok for me, I would like to get it so that the ppp interface comes up more intuitively (or am I missing something obvious?... that would be nice!). You might try running a local, caching-only nameserver. That may bring up ppp as needed by changing how your hostname resolution works. In particular, I'm betting that your hostname resolution is currently programmed specifically NOT to bring up an interface, while bind or dnscache oe w/e (when queried by your resolver) will not be as smart an send a DNS request to an IP, as needed. [If not needed, it will resolve the hostname to an IP address and your other application (browser, email, w/e) will use that IP (and wake up your ppp device).] (Just shooting from the hip here, though so, no guarantees.) In any case, a local, caching-only nameserver will still speed up your dial-up connection for DNS intensive tasks -- like web browsing. So, you work setting one up (which should be minimal) will not be for naught. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpCosDhPGiql.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server
On Sunday 31 December 2006 05:38, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server': I want to install gentoo in my Hewlett-Packard server.It's my first time to install linux in a server.I want to know that which *.iso I should download and burn into the CD? HP has sold (at least) 2 different architectures in their server lines. What CPU does the system have, or if you don't know, what's the model number? -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpeAmgNmlo9g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] arabtex ebuild/package?
On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 08:45:33PM -0500, Willie Wong wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 01:02:40AM +0100, Penguin Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED] squawked: I do have a big problem due to there's no ebuild for arabtex (http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ivi/bs/research/arab_e.html) in portage ... and I'm not skilled enough to build one by myself yet (I'm still a new to Gentoo/Linux). Is there anybody who ever made an ebuild or a package for arabtex which I could use? I already had a closer look at google ... but without any luck! AFAIK, there's is no such thing. (Generally the first place to check would be bugs.gentoo.org, which shows that nothing by the name of arabtex exists.) There was some effort on making a g-ctan script which like the g-cpan script (which installs perl packages from CPAN) can install CTAN packages, it is at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85411 but I am not quite sure whether it would work or not. Your best bet is to just install the package yourself directly from CTAN, installation notes and list of files are here: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/arabtex/install.txt and follow the installation advice http://www.ctan.org/installationadvice/ Thank you very much for this link! I finally installed arabtex like this: 1. Kopie the */arabtex directories to their right place in /usr/share/texmf/ 2. cd /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/arabtex/ texhash Thats it ... (its not nice ... but its working). Thank you for your help. Best refards, Andreas Best of luck W -- The NY Symphony and Schwarzenegger Enterprises have merged. Their new logo reads: I'll Be Bach, Will You Be Haydn?. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 22 days, 23:51 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] broken ping reply after 30secs
Hi, On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 03:52:30 +0100 Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It suddenly disappeared after putting down and reconfiguring the eth interface (diretly w/ ifconfig). Then I remembered I've put an ifconfig eth0 up into crontab, since it sometimes disappeared. Now I've replaced it with a little script which puts the interface down and reconfigures/ brings it up again. Smells like a bug ... Smells like a driver/interrupt routing problem. Did you try conservative kernel configuration, i.e. disabling MSI and/or APIC (kernel command line nomsi, noapic, nolapic)? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Few problems
On 31 December 2006 13:51, Pavel Kouřil wrote: I have few problems with my gentoo. =// 1. After X WM (I use KDE, in fluxbox it was same) my PC have insane CPU and RAM usage. Why? =// [2.0GHz AMD, 512MB RAM] You need to provide a bit more information here for us to give any meaningful answers. 2. How I can setup autostart in KDE? (i wanna run firefox etc. automaticaly) Copy the appropriate desktop file to ~/.kde/Autostart. And last problem, but this is more wine-related. I have big game freezes in Ragnarok Online (kRO version), and when i wanna run updater, it ever falls down. No idea here. I don't use WINE. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libGl.so.1 / prelinking
On 31 December 2006 11:39, Strong Cypher wrote: do you use a proprietary drivers ? like ati or nvidia ? Nope, OSS drivers. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On 31 December 2006 15:40, Mick wrote: The PC centric desktop on which M$ built their business model may be under threat. If the WebOS [1], GoogleOS [2], internet based desktop [3], etc. take off, then what will enable Gentoo to become a predominant system of choice both in the server and in the thin client markets? I don't think that Redmond will have much of a problem packaging a ROM embedded version of a thin client system and pushing it to all the Joe-public out there, who currently (mostly) blindly buy their products. Inertia may of course lead to their demise if they continue to market the individual desktop PC solution, but I wouldn't count on it. This won't happen for various reasons. In the business world, the main reason is security. Who will trust an Internet Desktop Provider with their internal documents? In the world of home computing, there are actually two main reasons. The first is porn. The second is nearly photo-realistic games. Another, not that important, reason is that there are vast areas in the world where bandwidth is insufficient and far too expensive for it. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] seamonkey + updates
* Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 27 December 2006 15:26, Enrico Weigelt wrote: is it possible to build seamonkey without the whole updating (and check-for-update) stuff ? I have absolutely no idea about what this question means... Seamonkey has some update features by itself (ie. checking for available update, downloading new binary package, etc). I want to build seamonkey entirely without that to save resources and reduce possible points of errors. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ wants to install xorg-server
* Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the virtualx eclass which the gtk+ ebuild inherits [1]. # grep virtualx `portageq portdir`/x11-libs/gtk+/gtk+-2.10.6.ebuild inherit gnome.org flag-o-matic eutils debug autotools virtualx # grep 'X?' `portageq portdir`/eclass/virtualx.eclass DEPEND=X? ( || ( x11-base/xorg-server virtual/x11 ) ) By reading the virtualx.eclass file, I really wonder what this is necessary for. Why is an X server needed to build gtk ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy dialup for unprivileged user
* Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now it pretty much does - but to trigger the ppp interface 'up' state I find myself doing stuff like: $ ping ip of ISP nameserver or similar, because hostname access will just return host not found immediately without trying to bring the link up. You could simply ping some fixed IPs somewhere in the wide world. But I'm not shure if you really want such an quite uncontrollable automatic dialup or probably some button for Dialup/Hangup on the desktop ? For that way you need some way of privilege switching (w/o password). su-wrapper (not yet in portage) is your friend :) cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] arabtex ebuild/package?
Hi, On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:52:56 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do have a big problem due to there's no ebuild for arabtex (http://www.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/ivi/bs/research/arab_e.html) in portage ... and I'm not skilled enough to build one by myself yet (I'm still a new to Gentoo/Linux). First: Do you really want to build an ebuild? I'm asking because arabtex only depends on an installed TeX system and isn't even OS-specific about it. For Gentoo (and most other Linux distros), that means you can get easily away with: root$ cd /usr/local/share root$ mkdir texmf (if it doesn't yet exist) root$ cd texmf root$ wget ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/arabtex/arab311.tgz(or whatever is current) root$ tar xzf arab311.tgz root$ texhash and you can happily use arabtex on that machine. You can deploy this amongst machines (e.g. rsync'ing the /usr/local/share/texmf tree). Is there anybody out there who ever made an ebuild or a package for arabtex which I could use? Well, I would volunteer if you really need one, but please explain first why ;-) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Few problems
Hi, On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 14:42:57 +0100 Pavel Kouřil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kinfocenter shows the same.. 22,71/503,58MB RAM free, which is like a 95% in conky. Memory consumption is not load! And it's pretty normal that Linux uses up all available RAM. Substract the current cache and buffer values and it's more like the classic idea of free RAM. System load is independent from that and is expressed in the CPU usage numbers e.g. displayed by top (I don't use Conky, so I've got no idea how it looks there). When the idle value stays at 0%, your machine _is_ likely under heavy load :-). This would also be expressed in the average load display (top again), which would indicate with values 1.00 that in average, there's more than one process waiting for the CPU. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Few problems
Ah, thx for explanation. I was afraid, there's someting wrong. XD Now only remains the RO problem. =/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem upgrading mediawiki
Hi folks, I just tried to upgrade some wikis from 1.4.15 (to 1.5.8, 1.6.8, 1.7.1) and ran into trouble: while trying access the wiki, I get an query error - seems the database layout has changed. How can I update it ? thx -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Documentation Index
On Sunday 31 December 2006 00:00, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
Hey, Jerry, wanna make a project team? I woulda done Python if I had
thought it was gonna get big. It now seems like that would be a good idea.
Care to:
1) share your code?
2) start a sourceforge project?
3) just tantalize us with your results?
It's far, far from being finished or polished... here it is:
#!/usr/bin/python
#
try:
import psyco
psyco.full()
except ImportError:
print Non-Fatal error importing PSYCO
pass
#
try:
import readline
except ImportError:
print Fatal Error importing readline
sys.exit(1)
#
try:
import struct
except ImportError:
print Fatal Error importing struct
sys.exit(1)
#
try:
import string
except ImportError:
print Fatal Error importing string
sys.exit(1)
#
try:
import sys
except ImportError:
print Fatal Error imporing sys
sys.exit(1)
#
try:
import os
except ImportError:
print Fatal Error imporing os
sys.exit(1)
al=array.list
il=index.list
ni=/var/www/localhost/htdocs/index2.html
z=0
rightNow=today!
version=1.0
print Every Damn Index - version ,version
print
print 'Scanning hard drive and creating list of all discovered files.'
print
os.system('tree -fixn --noreport -o '+il+' /')
print 'Construction of index list completed!'
print
printReading text from: , il
print
#
# read index.list and create new array list
#
input=open(il,'r')
output=open(al,'w')
for line in input.readlines():
# strip off leading and trailing spaces
line = string.strip(line, )
# stip off CR's
line = string.rstrip(line,chr(10))
words=string.split(line,/)
steps=len(words)
if words[steps-1]==index.html:
output.writelines(line+chr(10))
words=string.split(line,.)
steps=len(words)
if words[steps-1]==pdf:
output.writelines(line+chr(10))
words=string.split(line,.)
steps=len(words)
if words[steps-1]==chm:
output.writelines(line+chr(10))
z=z+1
if z 2000:
print .,
z=0
print
print Successfully processed ,il
print
input.close()
output.close()
printReading text from: +al+ and building new +ni
print
input=open(al,'r')
output=open(ni,'w')
output.writelines('!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01
Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;'+chr(10))
output.writelines(html+chr(10))
output.writelines(head+chr(10))
output.writelines(titleEvey Damn Index +version+- copyright Jerome D.
McBride - 2006/title+chr(10))
output.writelines('meta name=GENERATOR content=NONE'+chr(10))
output.writelines('meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1'+chr(10))
#output.writelines('img id= logo
src=http://www.expertsrt.com/images/xrt.png; alt=ERT Logo
style=vertical-align:top/'+chr(10))
output.writelines(/head+chr(10))
output.writelines(body+chr(10))
output.writelines(hr+chr(10))
output.writelines(strong Every Damn Index - Version +version+
/strong+chr(10))
output.writelines(hr+chr(10))
output.writelines(This page conatins a list of all available html
indexes, .pdf and .chm files+chr(10))
output.writelines(created +rightNow+chr(10))
output.writelines(hr+chr(10))
output.writelines(br+chr(10))
z=0
for line in input.readlines():
# strip off leading and trailing spaces
line = string.strip(line, )
# strip off leading and trailing slashes
line = string.strip(line, /)
# stip off CR's
line = string.rstrip(line,chr(10))
print 'Looking for package info for:', line
#clean up previous info.dat file
os.system(rm info.dat 2/dev/null 1/dev/null)
os.system('/usr/bin/equery belongs '+line+' info.dat')
inputData=open('info.dat','r')
infoText=inputData.read()
inputData.close()
if len(infoText)==0:
infoText=PNA/PNA
words=string.split(infoText,/)
steps=len(words)
groupName=words[0]
packageName=words[1]
output.writelines('br--'+packageName+'-- a
href='+line+'documentation/a found at '+line+'/br'+chr(10))
output.writelines(hr+chr(10))
output.writelines(The end...+chr(10))
output.writelines(br+chr(10))
output.writelines(/body+chr(10))
output.writelines(/html+chr(10))
print New index2.html written to ,ni,.
print
print Program successfully shutdown.
print
input.close()
output.close()
os.system(rm +al+ 2/dev/null 1/dev/null)
os.system(rm +il+ 2/dev/null 1/dev/null)
os.system(rm info.dat 2/dev/null 1/dev/null)
sys.exit(0)
As for manning a project... time hasn't allowed me the pleasure of a decent
day off from work. I would, however, contribute as I can.
Cheers all and enjoy
--
Jerry McBride
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Problem upgrading mediawiki
* Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just tried to upgrade some wikis from 1.4.15 (to 1.5.8, 1.6.8, 1.7.1) and ran into trouble: while trying access the wiki, I get an query error - seems the database layout has changed. Another wiki, 1.5.8, makes trouble when trying to upgrade to 1.6.8 and 1.7.1 as well: # Fatal error: Call to a member function getLatest() on a non-object in # /var/www/gez-widerstand.metux.de/htdocs/includes/SkinTemplate.php on line 804 cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Sunday 31 December 2006 16:02, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 31 December 2006 15:40, Mick wrote: The PC centric desktop on which M$ built their business model may be under threat. If the WebOS [1], GoogleOS [2], internet based desktop [3], etc. take off, then what will enable Gentoo to become a predominant system of choice both in the server and in the thin client markets? I don't think that Redmond will have much of a problem packaging a ROM embedded version of a thin client system and pushing it to all the Joe-public out there, who currently (mostly) blindly buy their products. Inertia may of course lead to their demise if they continue to market the individual desktop PC solution, but I wouldn't count on it. This won't happen for various reasons. In the business world, the main reason is security. Who will trust an Internet Desktop Provider with their internal documents? The same people who are trusting a multitude of outsourcing companies with their HR, Payroll, logistics, IT management and support, procurement, marketing, public relations, project delivery, . . . , you get the drift. I wouldn't trust them any more than you do, but in the world of hollow corporations there are a multitude of companies out there who would trust nearly anybody to take this problem away. In the world of home computing, there are actually two main reasons. The first is porn. Why does porn need to stored locally?! The second is nearly photo-realistic games. Of course. That is I think one area where a thin client will not be able to compete with a modern desktop PC. I don't play games and haven't seen what sort of latency a game played through FreeNX can achieve. On the other hand future gaming may be left to games consoles? Another, not that important, reason is that there are vast areas in the world where bandwidth is insufficient and far too expensive for it. Indeed, although most of these vast areas are sparsely populated and some of them are wired up as we speak - a friend who visited China 3 years ago mentioned that the gov't was laying yellow fibre-optic cables right across the country. -- Regards, Mick pgpaqAHE29nmC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 06:20:23PM +, Mick wrote: The second is nearly photo-realistic games. Of course. That is I think one area where a thin client will not be able to compete with a modern desktop PC. I don't play games and haven't seen what sort of latency a game played through FreeNX can achieve. On the other hand future gaming may be left to games consoles? Then I hope it will be possible to have my _private_ correspondence on a game console. I dread the times when I will have my pgp key stored somewhere on the internet. Another aspect is, I want to be the administrator of my computer - because I have the power to do whatever I like ;-) -- This message has optimized support for formating. Please choose green font and black background so it looks like it should. Michal vorner Vaner pgp06p2OClIH2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
On 12/31/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 (stable version). Since then i've experienced complete freezes of the machine (nothing responds, even external ping on the network) when USB devices are mounted. In case nothing is connected to the USB drive the machine can stay online without *any* freeze. The only thing i've done is to create local udev rules to facilitate the mounting of these devices: this is an example of its structure. As you know as of udev-089 some keyword has changed (as SYSFS-- ATTRS). Before this upgrade everything was working correctly. All udev does is create device nodes...it cannot effect the operation of the device or cause the system to hang. I suspect a hardware problem appeared at the same time as your update. What if you unplug the device while the system is hung? Does it clear up? Have you tried other USB disks? How about other USB devices, like printers or scanners? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ wants to install xorg-server
On 12/31/06, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By reading the virtualx.eclass file, I really wonder what this is necessary for. Why is an X server needed to build gtk ? You tell us: echo x11-base/xorg-server /etc/portage/package.provided emerge --oneshot x11-libs/gtk+ Then see what breaks. Don't forget to fix your system by removing the xorg-server from package.provided when you are done. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy dialup for unprivileged user
Passwordless SUDO on an app, or add some sgid/suid bits and do some group twiddling on the apps that do all your magic as root. That should at least be a good starting point :) On 1/1/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now it pretty much does - but to trigger the ppp interface 'up' state I find myself doing stuff like: $ ping ip of ISP nameserver or similar, because hostname access will just return host not found immediately without trying to bring the link up. You could simply ping some fixed IPs somewhere in the wide world. But I'm not shure if you really want such an quite uncontrollable automatic dialup or probably some button for Dialup/Hangup on the desktop ? For that way you need some way of privilege switching (w/o password). su-wrapper (not yet in portage) is your friend :) cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- /ent Fredric (aka theJackal) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On 31 December 2006 20:20, Mick wrote: On Sunday 31 December 2006 16:02, Uwe Thiem wrote: This won't happen for various reasons. In the business world, the main reason is security. Who will trust an Internet Desktop Provider with their internal documents? The same people who are trusting a multitude of outsourcing companies with their HR, Payroll, logistics, IT management and support, procurement, marketing, public relations, project delivery, . . . , you get the drift. I wouldn't trust them any more than you do, but in the world of hollow corporations there are a multitude of companies out there who would trust nearly anybody to take this problem away. On the other hand, I know enough companies that don't do that - and I do IT consultancy jobs for them. I don't doubt that a large number of companies is hollow and stupid. The questions is what the ratio is between those that store their latest blueprints inhouse and those that don't. I do not know. Do you? I mean hard numbers, not guesses. The other question is what the top 100 will do. Will Ford keep their internal strategic papers on the servers of an Internet Desktop Provider (IDP)? Will Dow Chemical? DaimlerChrysler? Exxon? You get the drift. ;-) In the world of home computing, there are actually two main reasons. The first is porn. Why does porn need to stored locally?! Many daddies John Doe might not understand the implications of storing potentially embarrassing (and often illegal) data on someone else's servers. Many, if not the majority, will at least have their suspicions and probably chicken out of IDPs. How significant is this? Well, I had the task to analyse the logs of a transparent proxy of a local ISP for some time. It was quite amazing. Just short of 50% of HTTP traffic was porn. About 80% of their subscribers were regular porn site visitors. So yes, it is significant. The second is nearly photo-realistic games. Of course. That is I think one area where a thin client will not be able to compete with a modern desktop PC. I don't play games and haven't seen what sort of latency a game played through FreeNX can achieve. On the other hand future gaming may be left to games consoles? NX is a truly amazing technology. I tried a full KDE desktop over a bloody modem line, and it reacted as if local. Still, the games I am talking about put a far higher stress on the local system *and* the bandwidth. Still, if thin clients would get far better video subsystems *and* much more ram they might do the trick. Another, not that important, reason is that there are vast areas in the world where bandwidth is insufficient and far too expensive for it. Indeed, although most of these vast areas are sparsely populated and some of them are wired up as we speak - a friend who visited China 3 years ago mentioned that the gov't was laying yellow fibre-optic cables right across the country. While China is a huge part of the world population-wise. it isn't all of it outside the US. Besides, fibre-optics aren't all of it. We have a backbone of them as well. Still, the average bandwidth a client can expect is somewhere between 3 and 4 KB/s. Anyway, since you use gmail.com, you are at least outsourcing your email. ;-) Not too bad, I admit - as long as you aren't sending incriminating or simply confidential stuff through them. Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On 31 December 2006 20:57, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 06:20:23PM +, Mick wrote: The second is nearly photo-realistic games. Of course. That is I think one area where a thin client will not be able to compete with a modern desktop PC. I don't play games and haven't seen what sort of latency a game played through FreeNX can achieve. On the other hand future gaming may be left to games consoles? Then I hope it will be possible to have my _private_ correspondence on a game console. I dread the times when I will have my pgp key stored somewhere on the internet. Another aspect is, I want to be the administrator of my computer - because I have the power to do whatever I like ;-) We aren't talking about *you* or *me*. We are talking about future trends. These involve a helluva more people than yourself. ;-) Uwe -- A fast and easy generator of fractals for KDE: http://www.SysEx.com.na/iwy-1.0.tar.bz2 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy dialup for unprivileged user
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Saturday 30 December 2006 22:00, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Easy dialup for unprivileged user': Now it pretty much does - but to trigger the ppp interface 'up' state I find myself doing stuff like: $ ping ip of ISP nameserver or similar, because hostname access will just return host not found immediately without trying to bring the link up. So while this workaround is ok for me, I would like to get it so that the ppp interface comes up more intuitively (or am I missing something obvious?... that would be nice!). You might try running a local, caching-only nameserver. That may bring up ppp as needed by changing how your hostname resolution works. In particular, I'm betting that your hostname resolution is currently programmed specifically NOT to bring up an interface, while bind or dnscache oe w/e (when queried by your resolver) will not be as smart an send a DNS request to an IP, as needed. [If not needed, it will resolve the hostname to an IP address and your other application (browser, email, w/e) will use that IP (and wake up your ppp device).] (Just shooting from the hip here, though so, no guarantees.) In any case, a local, caching-only nameserver will still speed up your dial-up connection for DNS intensive tasks -- like web browsing. So, you work setting one up (which should be minimal) will not be for naught. Yeah - thanks, great suggestion. I've give that a try. I run a caching only nameserver for my own desktop system for exactly the performance reasons you mentioned above, so setup is not problem. Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] anti-portage wreckage?
I am curious how these businesses manage their gentoo servers: http://www.tek.net/ http://www.sevenl.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] anti-portage wreckage?
here's another business based on gentoo: http://www.inversepath.com/service-gentoo-support.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: kde - limit an icon to a single desktop
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most people complain that KDE allows too much user configurability (smile). Assuming KDE 3.5.5 (or fairly recent), It is KDE 3.5.5. After install, I looked through all the control center options, and I was impressed -- it's still a lot, but it seems much more understandable than the last time I had a look, c. 3.2.x. open the KDE Control Centre, goto Desktop - Behaviour - General - Mouse Button Actions ; opposite the button of your choice ( R for you ) open the list choose 'Custom Menu 1', which lights up the corresponding 'edit' button; click on that to get 'menu editor', click 'new' for 'choose application' finally enter apwal in the entry box; click 'ok' there 'apply' back in the KDE Control Centre display it should work. Heh, I did do that before settling on xbindkeys. Opening a menu to then launch apwal was too much clicking for me. ;) When I am using the mouse, my left hand is usually hanging out near the ctrl key anyway, so binding to ctrl+rtclick is more comfortable than I though it would be. 'apwal' is a joke by its French creator: 'à poil' = 'bareback' (riding). Aha, thanks. I think after a day of usage, I am now an apwal evangelist, so that's good to know. Thanks for all your help. -- »Q« -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
I just wanted to add something to the original post. I've recently began experimenting with Debian and noticed their updating system is exactly like what I was asking about. Basically, there's package updates, and then there's distro updates. Why is it unreasonable for Gentoo to have something like this? I think it would help Gentoo a lot in the server market, where scalability is important.
[gentoo-user] Totem doesn't play DVDs
Howdy all, I'm trying to get Totem to play DVD's, but it tells me that I don't have the appropriate plugin to handle DVDs. Anybody seen this before and know how to handle it? Randy Barlow http://www.electronsweatshop.com Nulli Sheilae sanguineae -- (Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Totem doesn't play DVDs
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 08:03:12PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: Howdy all, I'm trying to get Totem to play DVD's, but it tells me that I don't have the appropriate plugin to handle DVDs. Anybody seen this before and know how to handle it? Couple of questions... Did you compile with the dvd and xine use flags? I believe that xine is needed for DVD menus. -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net Backups are for people who don't pray. -- big Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Documentation Index
On 12/31/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 31 December 2006 00:00, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Hey, Jerry, wanna make a project team? I woulda done Python if I had thought it was gonna get big. It now seems like that would be a good idea. Care to: 1) share your code? 2) start a sourceforge project? 3) just tantalize us with your results? It's far, far from being finished or polished... here it is: ... snip ... As for manning a project... time hasn't allowed me the pleasure of a decent day off from work. I would, however, contribute as I can. Cheers all and enjoy Thanks very much. You don't need to man a project, only start one if you're willing. I would need you to release your code under some Open Source License. It would be most convenient if you did both at once, by starting a sourceforge project with your code and chosen license. Then authorize at least one alternate project manager, and you never need do anything about it again. Normal ettiquette would allow you as originator considerable (understatement) influence over any decisions made in the project, but you can also just ignore them. BTW, I like your program but its package search sure seems slow. That would probably be the first thing I'd try to improve. It's still running a few hours after starting. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
Mike Myers wrote: I just wanted to add something to the original post. I've recently began experimenting with Debian and noticed their updating system is exactly like what I was asking about. Basically, there's package updates, and then there's distro updates. Why is it unreasonable for Gentoo to have something like this? I think it would help Gentoo a lot in the server market, where scalability is important. While this is true, one of the differentiating points of Gentoo is precisely the build-from-source idea (there are plenty of binary update distros out there). One other thing - to actually do what you are suggesting requires a fair number of extra volunteers to maintain these package updates. Now I'm not saying its not possible, or even a bad idea mind - just wore work... and maybe that effort might be better spent on keeping the current momentum and quality of Gentoo as it is (or improving it)... Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
Mike Myers wrote: I just wanted to add something to the original post. I've recently began experimenting with Debian and noticed their updating system is exactly like what I was asking about. Basically, there's package updates, and then there's distro updates. Why is it unreasonable for Gentoo to have something like this? I think it would help Gentoo a lot in the server market, where scalability is important. If Debian does what you want then why not go with it? What would be the point in making Gentoo like Debian? Gentoo offers a different approach which many of us like. It's all about choice - if you like Debian, choose it - but don't expect Gentoo to turn into a Debian clone. It's not going to happen. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] anti-portage wreckage?
Aniruddha wrote: I am curious how these businesses manage their gentoo servers: http://www.tek.net/ http://www.sevenl.net/ Hmm. I'm not entirely sure what you are asking. These companies offer Gentoo on a server on which the customer does the management. That's what it means to have a dedicated server - you manage it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Totem doesn't play DVDs
Alan wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 08:03:12PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: Howdy all, I'm trying to get Totem to play DVD's, but it tells me that I don't have the appropriate plugin to handle DVDs. Anybody seen this before and know how to handle it? Did you compile with the dvd and xine use flags? I believe that xine is needed for DVD menus. I'm not the original poster, but... According to a note at the end of an emerge totem, if you use the xine backend, you get DVD menus. Just for kicks, I unmerged totem and re-emerged it with the xine keyword. Still no DVD menus. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but perhaps this will help point the way towards what the problem is. In the meantime, may I suggest using xine to play DVDs? It's the best I've used (haven't used Ogle or Mplayer to play DVDs, though). Doug -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
On Sunday 31 December 2006 13:12, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...': On 12/31/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 (stable version). Since then i've experienced complete freezes of the machine (nothing responds, even external ping on the network) when USB devices are mounted. All udev does is create device nodes...it cannot effect the operation of the device or cause the system to hang. Newer versions of udev (particularly 103) can also load kernel modules, which definitely can effect the operation of the device and can cause the system to hang. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpGdYVeARcx9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem upgrading mediawiki
On Sunday 31 December 2006 11:20, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Problem upgrading mediawiki': I just tried to upgrade some wikis from 1.4.15 (to 1.5.8, 1.6.8, 1.7.1) and ran into trouble: while trying access the wiki, I get an query error - seems the database layout has changed. Yep, the database layout of MediaWiki changes with the minor version 1.4.x - 1.5.x (etc.). How can I update it ? I believe the MediaWiki developers generally provide update scripts [small downtime] and/or a way to export the data, delete the db, recreate the db, and import the data [large downtime]. AFAICT, this is a MediaWiki issue and not a Gentoo issue. You might get better responses using their support system instead. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgp3rviIyVz4R.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
Mike Myers wrote: I just wanted to add something to the original post. I've recently began experimenting with Debian and noticed their updating system is exactly like what I was asking about. Basically, there's package updates, and then there's distro updates. Why is it unreasonable for Gentoo to have something like this? I think it would help Gentoo a lot in the server market, where scalability is important. While I might personally like what you are suggesting I think that the idea fails under the load of trying to get the community to agree on what use flags/compiler flags, etc. would be the standard that all these packages are built with. Do you make the binary packages small or do you make them full featured? Do you support AMD CPU flags? Intel? Both or neither somehow? Personally I think there are so many options in Gentoo that coming up with agreement on what to do will be pretty difficult. That said if a set of binary packages were out there I'd probably investigate using it for certain machines, but most likely never my personal desktop machine. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On 12/31/06, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Mike Myers wrote: I just wanted to add something to the original post. I've recently began experimenting with Debian and noticed their updating system is exactly like what I was asking about. Basically, there's package updates, and then there's distro updates. Why is it unreasonable for Gentoo to have something like this? I think it would help Gentoo a lot in the server market, where scalability is important. While this is true, one of the differentiating points of Gentoo is precisely the build-from-source idea (there are plenty of binary update distros out there). I'm not trying to suggest that Gentoo should go to a binary distro or anything like that. Besides, it's easy enough to just use a binary package server if that's what one needs. I'm just wondering why there isn't some kind of update management system to like, differentiate minor updates like firefox 1.5.0.5 to firefox 1.5.0.7 and major ones like, y'know, gcc 3.4.4 to 4+? The way it is now, they're all lumped together like one big update. The lack of such a system might make it easier for the devs.. but this is a pain in the ass for the users when they run into a problem like this unexpectedly. It's even worse when that user is managing several Gentoo machines. This kind of thing does not scale at all. One other thing - to actually do what you are suggesting requires a fair number of extra volunteers to maintain these package updates. Now I'm not saying its not possible, or even a bad idea mind - just wore work... and maybe that effort might be better spent on keeping the current momentum and quality of Gentoo as it is (or improving it)... Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I don't see why it would take that much work. If the tree was versioned, then the profile could be more significant with what was updated. Like, in the ebuild it could have a single additional entry for a minimum profile. Then, that user won't have to deal with that update until they update their profile. I'm sure there's other ways of doing that, but from what I've seen of portage and it's scripts, it is quite flexible for changes such as this. If anything, this could just be a gradual addition to new scripts instead of editing each and every ebuild. Whatever the solution is if there is going to be one at all should not be a complicated one, or it would defeat the purpose altogether. On 12/31/06, Neil Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Myers wrote: I just wanted to add something to the original post. I've recently began experimenting with Debian and noticed their updating system is exactly like what I was asking about. Basically, there's package updates, and then there's distro updates. Why is it unreasonable for Gentoo to have something like this? I think it would help Gentoo a lot in the server market, where scalability is important. If Debian does what you want then why not go with it? What would be the point in making Gentoo like Debian? Gentoo offers a different approach which many of us like. It's all about choice - if you like Debian, choose it - but don't expect Gentoo to turn into a Debian clone. It's not going to happen. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list The update system is the -only- nice thing about it over Gentoo. Debian is nowhere near Gentoo when it comes to everything else (especially docs). I don't think suggesting a single feature that another distro has and putting into Gentoo is trying to make it a clone. I'm just asking for a relief from having to constantly worry if updating something out of the 300 packages that need updated is going to break something, and not having to make sure etc-update isn't going to destroy my custom configs afterwards. If it wasn't for that, Gentoo would be perfect. I'm sure there's got to be others that would agree.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On 12/31/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Myers wrote: I just wanted to add something to the original post. I've recently began experimenting with Debian and noticed their updating system is exactly like what I was asking about. Basically, there's package updates, and then there's distro updates. Why is it unreasonable for Gentoo to have something like this? I think it would help Gentoo a lot in the server market, where scalability is important. While I might personally like what you are suggesting I think that the idea fails under the load of trying to get the community to agree on what use flags/compiler flags, etc. would be the standard that all these packages are built with. Do you make the binary packages small or do you make them full featured? Do you support AMD CPU flags? Intel? Both or neither somehow? Personally I think there are so many options in Gentoo that coming up with agreement on what to do will be pretty difficult. That said if a set of binary packages were out there I'd probably investigate using it for certain machines, but most likely never my personal desktop machine. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I wasn't referring to the use of binary packages at all. I was only referring to how updates are managed (or lack thereof) in Gentoo. What USE flags and whatnot are set wouldn't need to be affected at all, I would think.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:01 -0600, Mike Myers wrote: I just wanted to add something to the original post. I've recently began experimenting with Debian and noticed their updating system is exactly like what I was asking about. Basically, there's package updates, and then there's distro updates. Why is it unreasonable for Gentoo to have something like this? I think it would help Gentoo a lot in the server market, where scalability is important. Gentoo has system and world - in concept almost the same thing Apologies if this has been pointed out already. However, on most of my machines system is empty (went that way soon after each install - no idea why) so all I am left with is world. Is there any way to regen system? (like regenworld does for world?) Perhaps a system file can be manually created using only the packages from world that the user wants? BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags information resource
On 12/31/06, Aniruddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is an excellent idea! For starters you can use euse: # euse -i useflagname I already use euse. It is really helpful. The short descriptions of the USE flags are often helpful. Just as often, they are not informative enough to enable me, at least, to make an informed decision. A little more information would often have helped. Do you have any ideas about a next step? Alan -- Alan Davis, Kagman High School, Saipan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-670-256-2043 I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I must share it with other people who like it. Richard Stallman Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute rejection of authority. - Thomas H. Huxley
Re: [gentoo-user] Totem doesn't play DVDs
There's also a dvd flag that may need to be turned on... This is my totem verbose compile: $ emerge -pv totem These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] media-video/totem-2.16.4 USE=dbus dvd gnome hal mad mpeg ogg vorbis xine xv -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -firefox -flac -lirc -nsplugin -nvtv -theora 0 kB HTH (but I feel like I'm hopefully going over the obvious)... ...Ric On 01/01/07, doug asherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 08:03:12PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: Howdy all, I'm trying to get Totem to play DVD's, but it tells me that I don't have the appropriate plugin to handle DVDs. Anybody seen this before and know how to handle it? Did you compile with the dvd and xine use flags? I believe that xine is needed for DVD menus. I'm not the original poster, but... According to a note at the end of an emerge totem, if you use the xine backend, you get DVD menus. Just for kicks, I unmerged totem and re-emerged it with the xine keyword. Still no DVD menus. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but perhaps this will help point the way towards what the problem is. In the meantime, may I suggest using xine to play DVDs? It's the best I've used (haven't used Ogle or Mplayer to play DVDs, though). Doug -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Ric de France Ph: +61412945554 (international) or 0412945554 (Australia) == Do you, uh... Gentoo? Gent-hooo!! == == http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml == -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
On 12/31/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 31 December 2006 13:12, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...': On 12/31/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some days ago i've upgraded to udev-103 (stable version). Since then i've experienced complete freezes of the machine (nothing responds, even external ping on the network) when USB devices are mounted. All udev does is create device nodes...it cannot effect the operation of the device or cause the system to hang. Newer versions of udev (particularly 103) can also load kernel modules, which definitely can effect the operation of the device and can cause the system to hang. Well udev can load modules, but if that causes the system to hang, it is almost certainly a bug in that module. Marco, if you suspect this at all, you can set RC_COLDPLUG=no in /etc/conf.d/rc to completely disable module loading by udev. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On 12/31/06, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, on most of my machines system is empty (went that way soon after each install - no idea why) so all I am left with is world. What do mean? The system package set is defined by /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages, and extended by the packages file of whatever profile you are running. Does emerge -evp system really report no packages to merge? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server
2006/12/31, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 31 December 2006 05:38, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server': I want to install gentoo in my Hewlett-Packard server.It's my first time to install linux in a server.I want to know that which *.iso I should download and burn into the CD? HP has sold (at least) 2 different architectures in their server lines. What CPU does the system have, or if you don't know, what's the model number? The cpu is Intel 3.0G,Dual core. -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Totem doesn't play DVDs
Ric de France wrote:
There's also a dvd flag that may need to be turned on... This is my
totem verbose compile:
Yeah, thanks, but the dvd flag was turned on. Made no difference. I'm
trying to understand the ebuild now. There's a section that says
use xine || G2CONF=${G2CONF} --gstreamer-enable=yes
but it seems that perhaps it should be written
if use xine; then
G2CONF=${G2CONF] --gstreamer-enable=no
else
G2CONF=${G2CONF] --gstreamer-enable=yes
fi
or maybe the first one should be --gstreamer-disable=yes -- have to
look at the configure options too.
Soon as I figure out how to produce the checksum file for the ebuilds,
I'll put this to the test.
Doug
$ emerge -pv totem
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] media-video/totem-2.16.4 USE=dbus dvd gnome hal mad
mpeg ogg vorbis xine xv -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -firefox -flac -lirc
-nsplugin -nvtv -theora 0 kB
HTH (but I feel like I'm hopefully going over the obvious)...
...Ric
On 01/01/07, doug asherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan wrote:
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 08:03:12PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote:
Howdy all, I'm trying to get Totem to play DVD's, but it tells me
that I
don't have the appropriate plugin to handle DVDs. Anybody seen this
before and know how to handle it?
Did you compile with the dvd and xine use flags? I believe that
xine is
needed for DVD menus.
I'm not the original poster, but...
According to a note at the end of an emerge totem, if you use the xine
backend, you get DVD menus. Just for kicks, I unmerged totem and
re-emerged it with the xine keyword. Still no DVD menus.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but perhaps this will help point the
way towards what the problem is.
In the meantime, may I suggest using xine to play DVDs? It's the best
I've used (haven't used Ogle or Mplayer to play DVDs, though).
Doug
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Re: [gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server
Chuanwen Wu wrote: 2006/12/31, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 31 December 2006 05:38, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server': I want to install gentoo in my Hewlett-Packard server.It's my first time to install linux in a server.I want to know that which *.iso I should download and burn into the CD? HP has sold (at least) 2 different architectures in their server lines. What CPU does the system have, or if you don't know, what's the model number? The cpu is Intel 3.0G,Dual core. You will want the Live ISO image for a x86 install. The HPPA won't run on x86, but it will run on he PA8000 cpu arch, the same CPU as the HP Visualize C180 I have sitting here. The Intel 3.0G Dual Core? Hmmm, that would be the 3.0G -D processor, as I don't know of any Duo Core hitting or exceeding 3GHz, I have a E6600 Duo core, and it will run the x86-32 and x86-64 arch's -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Totem doesn't play DVDs
doug asherman wrote:
Ric de France wrote:
There's also a dvd flag that may need to be turned on... This is my
totem verbose compile:
Yeah, thanks, but the dvd flag was turned on. Made no difference. I'm
trying to understand the ebuild now. There's a section that says
Ok, I tried it the way I set out below (fixing the ] typo in the
if-else first), and still I don't get the dvd menus. Sothere's
obviously more going on than I'm aware of. I'll continue investigating
next year...
Sorry not to be of any help.
Doug
use xine || G2CONF=${G2CONF} --gstreamer-enable=yes
but it seems that perhaps it should be written
if use xine; then
G2CONF=${G2CONF] --gstreamer-enable=no
else
G2CONF=${G2CONF] --gstreamer-enable=yes
fi
or maybe the first one should be --gstreamer-disable=yes -- have to
look at the configure options too.
Soon as I figure out how to produce the checksum file for the ebuilds,
I'll put this to the test.
Doug
$ emerge -pv totem
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] media-video/totem-2.16.4 USE=dbus dvd gnome hal mad
mpeg ogg vorbis xine xv -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -firefox -flac -lirc
-nsplugin -nvtv -theora 0 kB
HTH (but I feel like I'm hopefully going over the obvious)...
...Ric
On 01/01/07, doug asherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan wrote:
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 08:03:12PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote:
Howdy all, I'm trying to get Totem to play DVD's, but it tells me
that I
don't have the appropriate plugin to handle DVDs. Anybody seen this
before and know how to handle it?
Did you compile with the dvd and xine use flags? I believe that
xine is
needed for DVD menus.
I'm not the original poster, but...
According to a note at the end of an emerge totem, if you use the xine
backend, you get DVD menus. Just for kicks, I unmerged totem and
re-emerged it with the xine keyword. Still no DVD menus.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, but perhaps this will help point the
way towards what the problem is.
In the meantime, may I suggest using xine to play DVDs? It's the best
I've used (haven't used Ogle or Mplayer to play DVDs, though).
Doug
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 21:35 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 12/31/06, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, on most of my machines system is empty (went that way soon after each install - no idea why) so all I am left with is world. What do mean? The system package set is defined by /usr/portage/profiles/base/packages, and extended by the packages file of whatever profile you are running. Does emerge -evp system really report no packages to merge? -Richard rattus ~ # emerge system -ep These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating system dependencies ... done! rattus ~ # 3 systems like this, one installed only a few months ago works. :) BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Totem doesn't play DVDs
doug asherman wrote: blah, blah, blah Ok, turning on the xine flag does allow totem to play DVDs. I was expecting that there would be an entry under the Movie menu that said Play DVD as the help file says. So, sorry to be misleading. I think the absence of the Play DVD entry in the top-level Movie menu might be a bug. Doug -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
