Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse
Dale: Did my etc-update and went to log into KDE. No keyboard. No mouse. No nothing. I knew the new xorg-server update was going to make me change a few things but I thought I would be ABLE to change the thing. *g* Today 'emerge --sync' followed by 'emerge -uDN world' changed my xorg to 1.5. After 'startx' i had my usual icewm screen but no working mouse or keyboard. I had to unplug the computer then add softlevel=boot to get to where I could even fix the stupid thing. I preferred ssh from another computer. ;) While I was trying to recover and reading, it appears I have to update my kernel for this thing to work. That depends. Look in 'sudo make menuconfig' at Device Drivers-Input device support for Event interface. If available and unchecked, select it and recompile your kernel. I had done so because it was mentioned in the 'Xorg 1.5 Upgrade Guide', http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml Wasn't enough, though. - Xorg.0.log - (EE) Failed to load module evdev (module does not exist, 0) --- But 'modprobe evdev' succeeded. *g* After pulling out some hairs and examining 'emerge -pv xorg-server' closer i changed - /etc/make.conf - INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse to - /etc/make.conf - INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev --- and recompiled xorg-server. Now i had working mouse and keyboard under X. Then i noticed that my german keyboard layout was gone. The Upgrade Guide was not very clear in this point. At least for me. I have the same problem for my French keyboard layout, so here is what I do: Change my section InputDevice in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from: Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout fr EndSection To this: Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbModel evdev Option XkbRulesxorg Driver evdev EndSection After that I have to find the fdi file for my keyboard and change it according to my xorg.conf: Here is what I have in the fdi file: $ nano /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-keymap.fdi ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? !-- -*- SGML -*- -- deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keymap append key=info.callouts.add type=strlisthal-setup-keymap/append /match match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keys merge key=input.xkb.rules type=stringxorg/merge !-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to keyboard otherwise). -- merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringkeyboard/merge match key=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name string=Linux merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringevdev/merge /match merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringfr/merge merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string / /match /device /deviceinfo After that killing X, then restarting hald daemon and when I restart X I have my French Layout back. Hope it's help Time for a break, so i decided to disable hal for a while, drink some coffee and smoke some pipes. ;) - /etc/X11/xorg.conf - Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevices false EndSection --- Now i have commented out these lines because i found a way for my german keyboard layout. Hm, just noticed that i have also to do something for my compose key. Sigh. Hartmut = * Site web: http://www.drakonix.fr * =
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables + dansguardian + squid
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 23:09:04 -0600 Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: I've never posted any article on wiki, I think it requires knowledge of xml, doesn't it? Absolutely not! That's one of the beauties of wiki-syntax: you don't have to know anything - you just type it all as you see fit and it'll look okay. And a brief glance at the syntax help page will explain what kind of brackets to put around links or code snippets, so it'll look even better. If you want I can assist you, and maybe we can do it. It would require adding section on kernel module configuration as this is the main reason why iptable does not work with dansguardian. We can borrow sections from Linux.com as that article is well written but is missing kernel configuration as well as to what basic modules needs to be loaded for dansguardian and squid to work together, and how to check it. I try to fill in what I stumble upon, but I'm afraid I have no experience with dansguardian, nor do I know any gentoo-specific parts of the setup, but if I'll install and set it up someday, I'll probably write a few lines. Sorry, guess I'm just a bit too lazy to setup something I neither needed nor have any experience with similar systems, but don't make it sound like such a big deal - writing an article in wiki (if you know what to write) is no more trouble than writing such email to the list. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-server and my mouse
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:27:36 -0500, Dale wrote: I'm not near as upset as I was a little while ago. I ran my updates and then took a nap while it was compiling. I woke up and they were done. Did my etc-update and went to log into KDE. No keyboard. No mouse. No nothing. This happened to me a few months back. A quick scan of the log file and man page showed that I needed to add these lines to the ServerFlags section of xorg.conf Option AutoAddDevicesfalse Option AutoEnableDevices false -- Neil Bothwick When the going gets tough, upgrade. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] on-line info on masked packages
Dear all, Where can I find on-line information about masked packages, basically the current /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask? It seems no such info is either here [1], here [2] or here [3]. I'd like to know why the package is masked prior to syncing Portage. Thanks, Liviu [1] http://packages.gentoo.org/package/net-libs/webkit-gtk [2] http://gentoo-portage.com/net-libs/webkit-gtk [3] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-libs/webkit-gtk/?hideattic=0
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-server and my mouse
Dale a gentiment tapote: Hi folks, I'm not near as upset as I was a little while ago. I ran my updates and then took a nap while it was compiling. I woke up and they were done. Did my etc-update and went to log into KDE. No keyboard. No mouse. No nothing. I knew the new xorg-server update was going to make me change a few things but I thought I would be ABLE to change the thing. I had to unplug the computer then add softlevel=boot to get to where I could even fix the stupid thing. I'm back down to my old xorg-server-1.3* but now my mouse wheel don't work. Did this thing blow up my rat? How do i get my mouse wheel to work again? While I was trying to recover and reading, it appears I have to update my kernel for this thing to work. Something I can't do because the latest greatest kernel don't like my rig for some reason. I posted it on here somewhere a while back. Something to the effect that it is pissed at my IDE chipset. Looks like the new xorg-server is going to be masked for a while. I may have a few more questions before this mess is over. Right now, I'm going to go eat some ice cubes. Dale :-) :-) Hi all, Did you select the kernel option : Device Drivers - Input Device Support - * Event interface ? -- Jacques
[gentoo-user] eth0 keeps starting
Ok, I'm out of ideas on this one. On my laptop, I always had an issue with eth0; during boot, I got a warning no configuration found for eth0, assuming dhcp despite the fact that in /etc/conf.d/net I had config_eth0=( dhcp ). (btw, the same config has always worked fine in any other computer, ie no warnings). That has been like that for ages, but I did not care too much since in the end what I wanted for eth0 was dhcp, and that is what I was getting anyway, and I never bothered to find out more (yes, I should have). Now I don't want to start eth0 at boot anymore (only wlan0), so I commented out the config_eth0=( dhcp ) in /etc/conf.d/net, and did a rc-update del net.eth0 default (which correctly deleted net.eth0 from the default runlevel). Sure enough, net.eth0 is not part of any runlevel now: # rc-update -a show acpid | default bootmisc | boot checkfs | boot checkroot | boot clock | boot consolefont | boot hdparm | default hostname | boot iptables | default keymaps | boot local | default nonetwork localmount | boot modules | boot net.lo | boot netmount | default net.tap100 | default net.wlan0 | default rmnologin | boot splash | default sshd | default sysklogd | default urandom | boot vixie-cron | default xfs | default Nonetheless, at boot I keep getting the no configuration found for eth0, assuming dhcp warning, and it stubbornly tries to bring up eth0 using dhcp. As far as I can tell, no other initscript depends on net.eth0 (but I may not be looking in the right place). Any ideas? Thank you.
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 keeps starting
On Friday 10 April 2009, 12:12, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: # rc-update -a show Sorry, I should have copied/pasted - that should have been just rc-update show. Here is another extended output: # rc-update -v show acpid | default atieventsd | bootmisc | boot checkfs | boot checkroot | boot clock | boot consolefont | boot crypto-loop | dnsextd | famd | hdparm | default hostname | boot ip6tables | iptables | default keymaps | boot kismet | local | default nonetwork localmount | boot mdnsd | mDNSResponderPosix | modules | boot net.eth0 | net.lo | boot netmount | default net.tap100 | default net.wlan0 | default nscd | numlock | pciparm | portmap | pwcheck | pydoc-2.5 | rmnologin | boot rsyncd | saslauthd | smartd | splash | default sshd | default sysklogd | default udev-postmount | urandom | boot vde | vixie-cron | default xdm | xfs | default
Re: [gentoo-user] on-line info on masked packages
Am Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:53:24 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com: Dear all, Where can I find on-line information about masked packages, basically the current /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask? It seems no such info is either here [1], here [2] or here [3]. I'd like to know why the package is masked prior to syncing Portage. Thanks, Liviu [1] http://packages.gentoo.org/package/net-libs/webkit-gtk [2] http://gentoo-portage.com/net-libs/webkit-gtk [3] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-libs/webkit-gtk/?hideattic=0 No need to look online, the comments in the file seem to contain the information you want: # Markus Ullmann jo...@gentoo.org (5 Apr 2009) # mask until gnome 2.26 is in-tree (needs libsoup 2.26) =www-client/midori-0.1.5 =net-libs/webkit-gtk-0_p42000 HTH -- Marc Joliet -- Lt. Frank Drebin: It's true what they say: cops and women don't mix. Like eating a spoonful of Drāno; sure, it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside.
[gentoo-user] VNC question
Hi, I try to use vncviewer to access a OSX box with 10.5.6 and 'screen sharing' enabled. I have no problems with another mac that has another vnc server running but I thought, let's try the one, that comes with the OS. If I connect using vncviewer I get: VNC Viewer Free Edition 4.1.3 for X - built Apr 9 2009 21:56:01 Copyright (C) 2002-2008 RealVNC Ltd. See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC. Thu Apr 9 23:14:45 2009 CConn: connected to host 192.168.1.22 port 5900 CConnection: Server supports RFB protocol version 3.889 CConnection: Using RFB protocol version 3.8 Thu Apr 9 23:14:50 2009 TXImage: Using default colormap and visual, TrueColor, depth 16. CConn: Using pixel format depth 6 (8bpp) rgb222 CConn: Using ZRLE encoding main:End of stream And it returns. Are there any extensions in Apple's solution that cause this or is it maybe a problem with color depth on the x-server that I am running the client on (already o Xorg 1.5). Any clues are welcome. Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 keeps starting
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:12:04 +0100 Etaoin Shrdlu shr...@unlimitedmail.org wrote: On my laptop, I always had an issue with eth0; during boot, I got a warning no configuration found for eth0, assuming dhcp despite the fact that in /etc/conf.d/net I had config_eth0=( dhcp ). I don't remember since when, but the correct syntax should be 'config_eth0=dhcp'. Could be it's that way since OpenRC and baselayout-2, and that will explain why you don't have the same problem on other, probably not up-to-date or just stable arch, machines. Now I don't want to start eth0 at boot anymore (only wlan0), so I commented out the config_eth0=( dhcp ) in /etc/conf.d/net, and did a rc-update del net.eth0 default (which correctly deleted net.eth0 from the default runlevel). That should be done by disabling hotplugging in /etc/rc.conf. You can either disable hotplug completely, or, better yet, since you don't need in for one device only, disable it for that device: rc_hotplug=!net.eth0 Note that I'm not sure about syntax with baselayout-1, but the option should be there anyway. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] VNC question
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:05:49 + (UTC)
Konstantinos Agouros elw...@agouros.de wrote:
Any clues are welcome.
I know that it's rather workaround than a solution, but prehaps you
might try one of the other vnc implementations, like tightvnc
(net-misc/tightvnc).
Also, color depth certainly shouldn't be the issue, since you can
easily specify the depth used to create images on server ('-depth'
option in tightvnc), like 8 bits, in case of very slow connection,
regardless of depth actually used in underlying systems.
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 keeps starting
On Friday 10 April 2009, 13:15, Mike Kazantsev wrote: Now I don't want to start eth0 at boot anymore (only wlan0), so I commented out the config_eth0=( dhcp ) in /etc/conf.d/net, and did a rc-update del net.eth0 default (which correctly deleted net.eth0 from the default runlevel). That should be done by disabling hotplugging in /etc/rc.conf. You can either disable hotplug completely, or, better yet, since you don't need in for one device only, disable it for that device: rc_hotplug=!net.eth0 As it happens, I discovered that just after clicking send :-) Thank you!
Re: [gentoo-user] which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty
On 9 Apr 2009, at 16:06, Valmor de Almeida wrote: ... Not sure if this will help, but try *not* emerging it directly. Add mathextra to the USE for app-text/texlive and emerge --newuse texlive. W These are the packages that I actually emerged to keep the system lean (from world file): dev-texlive/texlive-fontsextra dev-texlive/texlive-latex dev-texlive/texlive-latexextra everything else from dev-texlive was pulled as dependencies. As a result I have ... This is your mistake. and if I do emerge texlive (the USE flag is extra) I get: - emerge -vp texlive These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] dev-texlive/texlive-texinfo-2008 USE=-doc -source 77 kB [ebuild N] dev-tex/xcolor-2.11 729 kB ... [ebuild N] dev-tex/latex-beamer-3.07 USE=-doc -examples -lyx 2,336 kB [ebuild N] app-text/dvipng-1.11 USE=truetype -test 164 kB [ebuild N] app-text/texlive-2008 USE=X extra png truetype - cjk -context -cyrillic -detex -doc -dvi2tty -games -graphics - humanities -jadetex -music -omega -pstricks -publishers -science - tex4ht -xetex -xindy -xml LINGUAS=en en_GB pt -af -ar -bg -bn -bo - cs -cy -da -de -el -eo -es -et -fi -fr -ga -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -hy - id -is -it -ja -ko -la -ml -mn -nl -no -pl -ro -ru -sk -sl -sr -sv - ta -th -tr -uk -vi -zh 0 kB Total: 38 packages (37 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 19,511 kB This is the correct way to install LaTeX. And indeed texlive-mathextra-2008 is pulled in but look at all the rest! It seems there should be a way to install mathextra without all the extra stuff. I really advise installing all the extra stuff. Whilst I can sympathise with your desire to keep your system lean, the developers' intent is that you install app-text/texlive-2008 and that it should bring in all these dependencies. It's the difference between monolithic modular (??) packages - you wouldn't expect to install just one or two components of X11 and have a fully functional windowing system - likewise you should install app- text/texlive-2008 in order to have a fully functional LaTeX distribution. The sub-packages are not intended to be installed stand-alone - they are merely for the convenience of the devs and so that minimal work is required of your system to maintain minor updates. IMO: `emerge -C dev-texlive/texlive-fontsextra dev-texlive/texlive- latex dev-texlive/texlive-latexextra emerge texlive-2008` will fix your problems - whilst keeping your *world file* lean. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] ath5k and laptop cpu frequency scaling
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com paul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: I switched from madwifi-ng to ath5k when I switched from kernel 2.6.28 to 2.6.29 and my wifi speed is unusably slow when the CPU speed is scaled down. I am talking about trying to ssh into my laptop taking literally MINUTES to respond when it is running at 800MHz but being instant when it is running at 2000MHz. If I am emerging or doing anything to run the CPU, the wifi speed is fine. When I am interactively using the laptop it's not as much of an issue because the laptop itself is perfectly normal in its responsiveness, but the wifi practically dies when the CPU slows down. I tried with cpudyn and without (using kernel ondemand governor). Is anyone else using ath5k on a laptop and having this problem? I don't know if it is the wifi driver, the kernel, or something else. I did about 3 months worth of updates all at once, so that makes it a nice big mess for isolating the cause. :) Hi. I'm using ath5k and kernel conservative governor and it everything work ok for me. Wireless is not very fast, but it seems it is hardware problem. gentoo-sources-2.6.28-r1 -- Vladimir Rusinov http://greenmice.info/
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-server and my mouse
Jacques Montier wrote: Dale a gentiment tapote: Hi folks, I'm not near as upset as I was a little while ago. I ran my updates and then took a nap while it was compiling. I woke up and they were done. Did my etc-update and went to log into KDE. No keyboard. No mouse. No nothing. I knew the new xorg-server update was going to make me change a few things but I thought I would be ABLE to change the thing. I had to unplug the computer then add softlevel=boot to get to where I could even fix the stupid thing. I'm back down to my old xorg-server-1.3* but now my mouse wheel don't work. Did this thing blow up my rat? How do i get my mouse wheel to work again? While I was trying to recover and reading, it appears I have to update my kernel for this thing to work. Something I can't do because the latest greatest kernel don't like my rig for some reason. I posted it on here somewhere a while back. Something to the effect that it is pissed at my IDE chipset. Looks like the new xorg-server is going to be masked for a while. I may have a few more questions before this mess is over. Right now, I'm going to go eat some ice cubes. Dale :-) :-) Hi all, Did you select the kernel option : Device Drivers - Input Device Support - * Event interface ? -- Jacques Nope. I saw that message AFTER the upgrade. Great timing on that message. I was in console trying to get it so my keyboard would work again and read that. I think I mentioned that my kernel has a little age on it. The latest kernel doesn't like my IDE chipset so it wouldn't boot and then there were other issues too. I'll get my hammer out and beat on this in a day or so. I'm just frustrated at the moment. I think this needed a little more ironing out before going stable but maybe it is just me. Dale :_) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg-server and my mouse
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 21:27:36 -0500, Dale wrote: I'm not near as upset as I was a little while ago. I ran my updates and then took a nap while it was compiling. I woke up and they were done. Did my etc-update and went to log into KDE. No keyboard. No mouse. No nothing. This happened to me a few months back. A quick scan of the log file and man page showed that I needed to add these lines to the ServerFlags section of xorg.conf Option AutoAddDevicesfalse Option AutoEnableDevices false Yea, one of those lines disables hal tho which I think is the whole point of this upgrade. It did get me to a point where my keyboard and mouse was sort of working tho. It is a good idea to have those even if they are commented out for testing purposes. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Should we disable FORTIFY_SOURCE for packages where it is not default?
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:39:26 -0300 Jorge Morais please.no.spam.h...@gmail.com wrote: From the info page of GCC 4.3.3 NOTE: In Gentoo, `-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2' is set by default, and is activated when `-O' is set to 2 or higher. This enables additional compile-time and run-time checks for several libc functions. To disable, specify either `-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE' or `-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=0'. I have seen some FORTIFY_SOURCE bugs in the bugzilla and in some cases, people claim the the bug lies in the FORTIFY_SOURCE feature itself (that is, people claim that FORTIFY_SOURCE misidentifies a buffer overflow). One example: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257016 Very rare, but it happens. I have installed GCC-4.3.3 (but have not enabled it through gcc-config yet), but my system is otherwise mostly stable. 1) I would like to use GCC-4.3.3 because it is the latest bugfix release and is presumably more bug-free (correct?). So far, yes. Especially users of -march=amdfam10 flag want this version. 2) But until FORTIFY_SOURCE is stable on Gentoo, I don't want it. How can I disable it? CXXFLAGS=-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE That's where most ebuilds will pick it up. If I add -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE to CPPFLAGS (this would be the correct place to add it, right?), wouldn't it disable the feature for every package, even for those that specify FORTIFY_SOURCE on their own? Yes, but in general, packages have not been specifying _FORTIFY_SOURCE. It's a new feature in recent glibcs that was only made usable in glibc-2.8. I want the traditional behavior: packages that ask for FORTIFY_SOURCE get it, those that don't ask don't get it. Packages don't ask for FORTIFY_SOURCE. They get it, good and hard. FORTIFY_SOURCE is a one-time pain for longterm gain. And of course, do you know if FORTIFY_SOURECE has a significant performance cost and if it is really ready to be default (as in, it is unlikely for new false positives to appear)? It has virtually no performance cost. Also, am I wise to use GCC 4.3.3 compiler in a mostly stable system? At the moment, we are only processing bugs about _FORTIFY_SOURCE when they can be confirmed on ~arch. As long as you're prepared to use package.keywords liberally, it should be mostly ok. /loki_val
Re: [gentoo-user] on-line info on masked packages
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: No need to look online, the comments in the file seem to contain the information you want: I am asking for the case where my tree is *not* yet synced with the most current available official tree. How can one find this file/information without syncing? # Markus Ullmann jo...@gentoo.org (5 Apr 2009) # mask until gnome 2.26 is in-tree (needs libsoup 2.26) =www-client/midori-0.1.5 =net-libs/webkit-gtk-0_p42000 Thanks. I was looking for this info. Liviu -- Do you know how to read? http://www.alienetworks.com/srtest.cfm Do you know how to write? http://garbl.home.comcast.net/~garbl/stylemanual/e.htm#e-mail
Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?
Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Cheers, Wyatt After the mess with my updates yesterday, I wish portage had a undo feature. Something like emerge --undo-updates world that puts everything back to the way it was before a recent upgrade. Maybe even make it so we can set a stable point and return to that. Crap, that sounds like something windoze has. o_O I still think it would be a cool idea. Sometimes upgrades cause all kinds of issues and need to be undone. Going back to a known stable point would be great. Now someone tell me this exists already. lol They have added so much to portage lately I haven't been able to keep up. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty
Stroller wrote: The sub-packages are not intended to be installed stand-alone - they are merely for the convenience of the devs and so that minimal work is required of your system to maintain minor updates. I wonder why this is a required package * dev-tex/feynmf Latest version available: 1.08-r3 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 328 kB Homepage: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/feynmf/ Description: Combined LaTeX/Metafont package for drawing of Feynman diagrams License: GPL-2 or even this * dev-tex/latex-beamer Latest version available: 3.07 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of files: 2,335 kB Homepage: http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/ Description: LaTeX class for creating presentations using a video projector. License: GPL-2 FDL-1.2 LPPL-1.3c a well designed modular approach should not require these for basic functionality. IMO: `emerge -C dev-texlive/texlive-fontsextra dev-texlive/texlive-latex dev-texlive/texlive-latexextra emerge texlive-2008` will fix your problems - whilst keeping your *world file* lean. Stroller. Will do. Thanks for the inputs. -- Valmor
Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Cheers, Wyatt After the mess with my updates yesterday, I wish portage had a undo feature. Something like emerge --undo-updates world that puts everything back to the way it was before a recent upgrade. Maybe even make it so we can set a stable point and return to that. Crap, that sounds like something windoze has. o_O I still think it would be a cool idea. Sometimes upgrades cause all kinds of issues and need to be undone. Going back to a known stable point would be great. Now someone tell me this exists already. lol They have added so much to portage lately I haven't been able to keep up. I don't think portage has this option, and I hope it will never. Suppose you have to deal with a big upgrade (that icludes glibc) and the next day you tell portage to rollback... I prefer the old way, read the emerge log (or use genlop), and rollback manually. FEATURES=buildsyspkg can be helpful when you break mission critical stuff. --- TopperH http://topperh.blogspot.com pgp8arG24B9mP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:06:28AM -0400, Penguin Lover Valmor de Almeida squawked: These are the packages that I actually emerged to keep the system lean (from world file): dev-texlive/texlive-fontsextra dev-texlive/texlive-latex dev-texlive/texlive-latexextra You are free to break your system however you want. Check the gentoo texlive guide for the recommended/supported way of installing tex. If you don't follow it and it breaks, well, tough. You said you want to keep it free from clutter. If you only emerge texlive, it will keep your world file even cleaner. AND if you look at the sizes of all the packages downloaded, you'd see that most of the additional packages take next to no space on the capacity of a modern computer. In fact, many of those things that you refused to install came with tetex anyway, you just didn't see them as separate packages. W -- I float like an anchor and sting like a moth. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 854 days, 12:39
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:24:39PM +0200, Penguin Lover Hartmut Figge squawked: Hartmut Figge: * ERROR: dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2008 failed. The today 'emerge --sync' followed by 'emerge -pv -uDN world' showed that this package would be emerged. I was curious what would happen. Well, it failed. Looking for bugs i found http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262177 in which 'texmf-update' was recommended as fix. That helped. But then * Package 'dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2008' merged despite file * collisions. If necessary, refer to your elog messages for the whole * content of the above message. Judging by your previous post (you have nothing of texlive in your world) and your current post, you may have just completely screwed up your tex installation. Did you perhaps have tetex installed prior? Tetex has recently been marked for removal and all users are encouraged to upgrade to texlive. Did you follow the texlive guide? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml W -- What are you talking about? Never mind, eat the fruit. You know, this place almost looks like the Garden of Eden. Eat the fruit. Sounds quite like it too. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 854 days, 12:45
[gentoo-user] Cryptsetup lvm2 blocker
After last sync I get this blocker:
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
('installed', '/', 'sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.28', 'nomerge') pulled
in by
=sys-fs/device-mapper-1.00.07-r1 required by ('installed', '/',
'sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.6-r2', 'nomerge')
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.45', 'merge') pulled in by
sys-fs/lvm2 required by @world
How should I handle that?
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Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?
Momesso Andrea wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Cheers, Wyatt After the mess with my updates yesterday, I wish portage had a undo feature. Something like emerge --undo-updates world that puts everything back to the way it was before a recent upgrade. Maybe even make it so we can set a stable point and return to that. Crap, that sounds like something windoze has. o_O I still think it would be a cool idea. Sometimes upgrades cause all kinds of issues and need to be undone. Going back to a known stable point would be great. Now someone tell me this exists already. lol They have added so much to portage lately I haven't been able to keep up. I don't think portage has this option, and I hope it will never. Suppose you have to deal with a big upgrade (that icludes glibc) and the next day you tell portage to rollback... I prefer the old way, read the emerge log (or use genlop), and rollback manually. FEATURES=buildsyspkg can be helpful when you break mission critical stuff. --- TopperH http://topperh.blogspot.com In that case, portage can tell you it can't roll back. It could even tell you that before the upgrade. The thing about yesterday, I had no keyboard or mouse. If I hadn't wrote down how to add softlevel=boot on the end of the grub boot line, I have no idea what I would have done at that point. Of course, it would have also been nice if hal had just wrote to a log that it couldn't find the proper driver or whatever for the keyboard and/or mouse then defaulted to the old way. That has to be better than being forced to unplug a computer without a proper shutdown. Just tossing ideas for something more positive in the future. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptsetup lvm2 blocker
Am Freitag, 10. April 2009 17:08:24 schrieb Momesso Andrea:
After last sync I get this blocker:
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
('installed', '/', 'sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.28', 'nomerge') pulled
in by
=sys-fs/device-mapper-1.00.07-r1 required by ('installed', '/',
'sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.6-r2', 'nomerge')
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.45', 'merge') pulled in by
sys-fs/lvm2 required by @world
How should I handle that?
I'd say just wait a day or two. Seems device-mapper is now part of lvm2, but
cryptsetup deps haven't been updated, yet.
Bye...
Dirk
Re: [gentoo-user] which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 09:50:31AM -0400, Penguin Lover Valmor de Almeida squawked: I wonder why this is a required package * dev-tex/feynmf * dev-tex/latex-beamer a well designed modular approach should not require these for basic functionality. Well, I agree with you there. File a bug and see what the devs say. I suspect it has something to do with how other distros or upstream packages texlive, or the fact that if you make it infinitely configurable then you will have a whole mess of USE. Now, looking at the texlive ebuild, I think those are the only ones that stands out as can possibly belong to their own categories. I can't really imagine anything really depending on beamer... Best, W -- If your're scattering a fly off an elephant, you don't worry about the mass of the elephant. But since we're physicists, lets consider the alternate example. In this case, we scatter the elephant off the fly. ~DeathMech, S. Sondhi. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 854 days, 13:11
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: iptables + dansguardian + squid
On 04/10/09 13:25, Mike Kazantsev wrote: [snip] I try to fill in what I stumble upon, but I'm afraid I have no experience with dansguardian, nor do I know any gentoo-specific parts of the setup, but if I'll install and set it up someday, I'll probably write a few lines. Installation of these three components is easy, just look at the instruction from both links and it will give you an idea how it works. Once you have DansGuardian and squid installed you can test it by changing temporary setting in Firefox: Configure firefox network setting manual proxy: * Input 127.0.0.1 as the proxy IP * Input 8080 as the proxy port and try to access something xxx it should be blocked. Danasguardian filters are easy to work with. Once these two components are working all is needed is to incorporate iptables into equation. As to kernel configuration see this link on the forum: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-754259-highlight-.html -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] ath5k and laptop cpu frequency scaling
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Vladimir Rusinov vladi...@greenmice.info wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: I switched from madwifi-ng to ath5k when I switched from kernel 2.6.28 to 2.6.29 and my wifi speed is unusably slow when the CPU speed is scaled down. I am talking about trying to ssh into my laptop taking literally MINUTES to respond when it is running at 800MHz but being instant when it is running at 2000MHz. If I am emerging or doing anything to run the CPU, the wifi speed is fine. When I am interactively using the laptop it's not as much of an issue because the laptop itself is perfectly normal in its responsiveness, but the wifi practically dies when the CPU slows down. I tried with cpudyn and without (using kernel ondemand governor). Is anyone else using ath5k on a laptop and having this problem? I don't know if it is the wifi driver, the kernel, or something else. I did about 3 months worth of updates all at once, so that makes it a nice big mess for isolating the cause. :) Hi. I'm using ath5k and kernel conservative governor and it everything work ok for me. Wireless is not very fast, but it seems it is hardware problem. gentoo-sources-2.6.28-r1 Okay, thanks for the info. My chipset is AR5414 and gentoo-sources-2.6.29-r1. When I'm downloading and change governor to performance I can see immediate wifi speed increase from 2KiB/s to more than 1000KiB/s. But, even then, performance is bad and unreliable compared to mafwifi-ng. I guess I should switch back. Maybe I'll ask ath5k-users list first (but it seems dead).
Re: [gentoo-user] VNC question
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Konstantinos Agouros elw...@agouros.de wrote: Hi, I try to use vncviewer to access a OSX box with 10.5.6 and 'screen sharing' enabled. I have no problems with another mac that has another vnc server running but I thought, let's try the one, that comes with the OS. I have successfully connected to OSX built-in screen sharing from KDE's krdp program.
Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Momesso Andrea wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Cheers, Wyatt After the mess with my updates yesterday, I wish portage had a undo feature. Something like emerge --undo-updates world that puts everything back to the way it was before a recent upgrade. Maybe even make it so we can set a stable point and return to that. Crap, that sounds like something windoze has. o_O I still think it would be a cool idea. Sometimes upgrades cause all kinds of issues and need to be undone. Going back to a known stable point would be great. Now someone tell me this exists already. lol They have added so much to portage lately I haven't been able to keep up. I don't think portage has this option, and I hope it will never. Suppose you have to deal with a big upgrade (that icludes glibc) and the next day you tell portage to rollback... I prefer the old way, read the emerge log (or use genlop), and rollback manually. FEATURES=buildsyspkg can be helpful when you break mission critical stuff. --- TopperH http://topperh.blogspot.com In that case, portage can tell you it can't roll back. It could even tell you that before the upgrade. The thing about yesterday, I had no keyboard or mouse. If I hadn't wrote down how to add softlevel=boot on the end of the grub boot line, I have no idea what I would have done at that point. Of course, it would have also been nice if hal had just wrote to a log that it couldn't find the proper driver or whatever for the keyboard and/or mouse then defaulted to the old way. That has to be better than being forced to unplug a computer without a proper shutdown. Just tossing ideas for something more positive in the future. Dale I think everyone on ~arch had the no keyboard/mouse problem many months ago (including me, luckily i have more than 1 computer and was able to ssh in to make the needed changes), and there were dozens (hundreds?) of threads here and on the forums about people having this problem and how to fix it, so I am /shocked/ that they didn't put a warning on the ebuild telling you what you might need to do before you restart X the next time. It seems like it would help cure people from running into that problem. Or make X depend on evdev when hal USE flag is enabled, or change the xorg.conf to have the needed settings, or something other than just forcing people to learn the hard way.
[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse
Dale wrote: [...] Yea, one of those lines disables hal tho which I think is the whole point of this upgrade. HAL is a very minor thing in this update. But with an old kernel, well, I can only see problems in the long run. Especially since you're using outdated DRM kernel drivers. If I were you, I would try to sort out your IDE kernel problem. Google a lot about your chipset and the two different drivers for it (legacy IDE drivers vs new libata drivers).
Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?
Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Momesso Andrea wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:35:23AM -0500, Dale wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Cheers, Wyatt After the mess with my updates yesterday, I wish portage had a undo feature. Something like emerge --undo-updates world that puts everything back to the way it was before a recent upgrade. Maybe even make it so we can set a stable point and return to that. Crap, that sounds like something windoze has. o_O I still think it would be a cool idea. Sometimes upgrades cause all kinds of issues and need to be undone. Going back to a known stable point would be great. Now someone tell me this exists already. lol They have added so much to portage lately I haven't been able to keep up. I don't think portage has this option, and I hope it will never. Suppose you have to deal with a big upgrade (that icludes glibc) and the next day you tell portage to rollback... I prefer the old way, read the emerge log (or use genlop), and rollback manually. FEATURES=buildsyspkg can be helpful when you break mission critical stuff. --- TopperH http://topperh.blogspot.com In that case, portage can tell you it can't roll back. It could even tell you that before the upgrade. The thing about yesterday, I had no keyboard or mouse. If I hadn't wrote down how to add softlevel=boot on the end of the grub boot line, I have no idea what I would have done at that point. Of course, it would have also been nice if hal had just wrote to a log that it couldn't find the proper driver or whatever for the keyboard and/or mouse then defaulted to the old way. That has to be better than being forced to unplug a computer without a proper shutdown. Just tossing ideas for something more positive in the future. Dale I think everyone on ~arch had the no keyboard/mouse problem many months ago (including me, luckily i have more than 1 computer and was able to ssh in to make the needed changes), and there were dozens (hundreds?) of threads here and on the forums about people having this problem and how to fix it, so I am /shocked/ that they didn't put a warning on the ebuild telling you what you might need to do before you restart X the next time. It seems like it would help cure people from running into that problem. Or make X depend on evdev when hal USE flag is enabled, or change the xorg.conf to have the needed settings, or something other than just forcing people to learn the hard way. I had read here that people was having trouble. I also monitor -dev as well. I had set evdev in make.conf a long time ago. I had been checking some settings and such when reading the thread so I was expecting a somewhat smooth transition. What really upset me was having to pull the plug. I got backups of most things on here but I'm on dial-up and getting it to work off the CD is a PITA to say it lightly. I also wanted to read a link that elog had in it to only find out the link don't even work. I got a nice pretty 404 error message tho. My plan at the moment is to leave it masked until I know for sure it is going to work or at the least let me be able to shutdown without pulling the plug. Maybe by then hal will have the config files where I can just copy them over. I read somewhere that it is in the works. I'm glad I been using Gentoo for several years. If I was a newbie, I'd be screwed. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: jagged, grey, fine, horizontal lines on xterm border
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM, 7v5w7go9ub0o 7v5w7go9u...@gmail.com wrote: snip But the question is, why do I (and you) see jaggedness when looking at that jpeg? I can ignore it, and likely it'll be fine (no jaggedness when looking at that particular pattern) the next update, or I can report it to bugzilla and let them pass it upstream. Guess that is what I'm presently pondering. Thanks for following this! If you use the xsetroot utility to alter the root window background, does it carry down to the xterm scrollbar? By that I mean I wonder if xterm inherits its visual look from the parent or if it is living in its own little world. It does not carry down to the xterm scrollbar - its own little world. heh on this box, xsetroot -gray produces a window background that perfectly demonstrates the jaggedness new with the latest xorg-server. Please try xsetroot -gray on your box, and see how it works for you. :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] on-line info on masked packages
Am Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:23:47 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic landronim...@gmail.com: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: No need to look online, the comments in the file seem to contain the information you want: I am asking for the case where my tree is *not* yet synced with the most current available official tree. How can one find this file/information without syncing? Ah, sorry. Well, google found this: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/profiles/ You can check the files contents there. # Markus Ullmann jo...@gentoo.org (5 Apr 2009) # mask until gnome 2.26 is in-tree (needs libsoup 2.26) =www-client/midori-0.1.5 =net-libs/webkit-gtk-0_p42000 Thanks. I was looking for this info. Liviu You're welcome. -- Marc Joliet -- Lt. Frank Drebin: It's true what they say: cops and women don't mix. Like eating a spoonful of Drāno; sure, it'll clean you out, but it'll leave you hollow inside.
Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptsetup lvm2 blocker
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[gentoo-user] Re: which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty
Willie Wong: Judging by your previous post (you have nothing of texlive in your world) and your current post, you may have just completely screwed up your tex installation. Because i followed the recommendation of 'texmf-update' mentioned in http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262177? Did you perhaps have tetex installed prior? If so then automatically because of a dependency. At the moment tetex is not installed. Tetex has recently been marked for removal and all users are encouraged to upgrade to texlive. Did you follow the texlive guide? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml Why should i have searched for this migration guide, when texlive was pulled in automatically yesterday and i had never noticed something of tetex in my system? Hartmut
[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse
Fred Elno: merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringfr/merge merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string / Since yesterday i have merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringde/merge merge key=input.xkb.variant type=stringnodeadkeys/merge merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringcompose:menu/merge but it took a while to find the right syntax. At which place is e.g. input.xkb.options mentioned in the documentation? Could't find one, so i have guessed from the entry in my xorg.conf. *g* - xorg.conf - Option XkbOptionscompose:menu --- Hartmut
[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse
Dale: Sounds like you are having fun with your upgrade too. :-D On my kernel, I'm using 2.6.23. It was the last one I could get to boot so i stuck with it. This one should have the mentioned option of enabling evdev, e.g. with make menuconfig. You can do so, recompile the kernel and keep it in this way. Or you could put the mentioned three lines in xorg.conf to disable hal. Or you could emerge xorg-server with USE=-hal. Hartmut
[gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse
Hartmut Figge: Could't find one, [...] A missing 'n'. Surely my keyboard is the culprit. ;) Hartmut
[gentoo-user] Can't figure out why emerage wants to build xscreensaver
Is something broken in the xfce ebuilds? emerge keeps wanting to install xscreensaver even though I've got -xscreensaver in my USE variable in make.conf. Everytime I update, xscreensaver gets reinstalled, and I have to manually emerge -C it: # emerge -auvtND world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-4.4.3 USE=alsa cups oss -minimal -xscreensaver [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.4.3 USE=dbus -debug -gnome [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.4.3 USE=dbus lock -debug [ebuild N]x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.07 USE=jpeg opengl pam -new-login -suid -xinerama 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 0 kB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I've got an IDEA!! at Why don't I STARE at you visi.comso HARD, you forget your SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't figure out why emerage wants to build xscreensaver
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Is something broken in the xfce ebuilds? emerge keeps wanting to install xscreensaver even though I've got -xscreensaver in my USE variable in make.conf. Everytime I update, xscreensaver gets reinstalled, and I have to manually emerge -C it: # emerge -auvtND world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-4.4.3 USE=alsa cups oss -minimal -xscreensaver [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.4.3 USE=dbus -debug -gnome [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.4.3 USE=dbus lock -debug [ebuild N]x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.07 USE=jpeg opengl pam -new-login -suid -xinerama 0 kB It is because of the lock USE flag on xfce-utils. I think it uses xscreensaver for the screen-locking function.
[gentoo-user] Python module problems
I upgraded to Python 2.6 recently, and discovered that all my installed modules (pygtk, pycairo, feedparser, etc) were gone. So, I've had to launch all my programs relating to python (rhythmbox, gpodder, wicd) and manually see how to solve each by reinstalling the missing module. Now, with that said, has this just been an ebuild issue to not pull in the dependencies or what?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:49:27PM +0200, Penguin Lover Hartmut Figge squawked: Why should i have searched for this migration guide, when texlive was pulled in automatically yesterday and i had never noticed something of tetex in my system? No, you shouldn't have. But I am confused about the file collision message, especially since you didn't show the exact list of files that collided! W -- `What's been happening here?' he demanded. `Oh just the nicest things, sir, just the nicest things. can I sit on your lap please?' `Colin, I am going to abandon you to your fate.' `I'm so happy.' `It will be very, very nasty for you, and that's just too bad. Got it?' `I gurgle with pleasure.' - Ford and Colin the robot. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 854 days, 16:14
Re: [gentoo-user] Python module problems
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:01:14 -0400 Saphirus Sage saphirus...@gmail.com wrote: I upgraded to Python 2.6 recently, and discovered that all my installed modules (pygtk, pycairo, feedparser, etc) were gone. So, I've had to launch all my programs relating to python (rhythmbox, gpodder, wicd) and manually see how to solve each by reinstalling the missing module. Now, with that said, has this just been an ebuild issue to not pull in the dependencies or what? python-updater as root. It's useful to read emerge messages. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Python module problems
Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:01:14 -0400 Saphirus Sage saphirus...@gmail.com wrote: I upgraded to Python 2.6 recently, and discovered that all my installed modules (pygtk, pycairo, feedparser, etc) were gone. So, I've had to launch all my programs relating to python (rhythmbox, gpodder, wicd) and manually see how to solve each by reinstalling the missing module. Now, with that said, has this just been an ebuild issue to not pull in the dependencies or what? python-updater as root. It's useful to read emerge messages. I had no idea there was such an application; an hour of googling didn't even give the slightest indication of it. Thanks, really saved me the headache of continuing one-by-one installs as each little problem came up.
[gentoo-user] Re: which package contains latex stmaryrd.sty
Willie Wong: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 05:49:27PM +0200, Penguin Lover Hartmut Figge squawked: Why should i have searched for this migration guide, when texlive was pulled in automatically yesterday and i had never noticed something of tetex in my system? But there exists emerge.log. Looking for tetex i found 1188510596: Started emerge on: Aug 30, 2007 23:49:56 1188510596: *** emerge a2ps [...] 1188510887: emerge (5 of 6) app-text/tetex-3.0_p1-r3 to / So there was indeed tetex installed pulled in by a2ps. And this emerge.log is a fine thing. It reminded me on previous trouble with texlive not long ago. 1238911367: Started emerge on: Apr 05, 2009 08:02:47 1238911367: *** emerge --newuse --deep --update world [...] 1238915281: emerge (16 of 20) dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2008 to / [...] 1238915289: *** exiting unsuccessfully with status '1'. 1238915293: *** terminating. I was not very happy about this and had to do something. emerge.log shows what had happened. 1238916325: *** emerge unmerge tetex :) Didn't help, though. Then somehow i noticed that unmerging ddd could be useful. And so it was. 1238916481: Started emerge on: Apr 05, 2009 09:28:01 1238916481: *** emerge unmerge ddd 1238916487: === Unmerging... (dev-util/ddd-3.3.11) 1238916487: unmerge success: dev-util/ddd-3.3.11 1238916487: *** exiting successfully. 1238916490: *** terminating. 1238916494: Started emerge on: Apr 05, 2009 09:28:14 1238916494: *** emerge --newuse --deep --update world 1238916499: *** Finished. Cleaning up... 1238916499: *** exiting successfully. 1238916499: *** terminating. 'emerge -uDN world' had finished successfully. A following new emerge of ddd also. Fine. Until yesterday. *g* No, you shouldn't have. But I am confused about the file collision message, especially since you didn't show the exact list of files that collided! No problem because summary.log exists. Messages generated by process 32095 on 2009-04-09 23:04:40 CEST for package dev-texlive/texlive-basic-2008: [...] Detected file collision(s): /var/lib/texmf/web2c/tex/tex.fmt /var/lib/texmf/web2c/tex/tex.log /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafont/mf.base /var/lib/texmf/web2c/metafont/mf.log Messages generated by process 32095 on 2009-04-09 23:07:02 CEST for package dev-texlive/texlive-latex-2008-r1: [...] Detected file collision(s): /usr/bin/pdflatex /usr/bin/latex By the way, thanks for the link to http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml which is now in my bookmarks. Should i have trouble with texlive in the future i know what to do. Hartmut
[gentoo-user] Re: Can't figure out why emerage wants to build xscreensaver
On 2009-04-10, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Is something broken in the xfce ebuilds? emerge keeps wanting to install xscreensaver even though I've got -xscreensaver in my USE variable in make.conf. Everytime I update, xscreensaver gets reinstalled, and I have to manually emerge -C it: # emerge -auvtND world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-4.4.3 USE=alsa cups oss -minimal -xscreensaver [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.4.3 USE=dbus -debug -gnome [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.4.3 USE=dbus lock -debug [ebuild N]x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.07 USE=jpeg opengl pam -new-login -suid -xinerama 0 kB It is because of the lock USE flag on xfce-utils. I think it uses xscreensaver for the screen-locking function. I see. An unpleasant side-effect is that the screensaver function keeps kicking in. I guess I'll remove the lock flag from xfce-utils. Oddly, I have the lock flag for xfce-utils on another similar system, and emerge doesn't think it needs xscreensaver on that system. Perhpas because I have xlockmore installed on that system? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Xerox your lunch at and file it under sex visi.comoffenders!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't figure out why emerage wants to build xscreensaver
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-04-10, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Is something broken in the xfce ebuilds? emerge keeps wanting to install xscreensaver even though I've got -xscreensaver in my USE variable in make.conf. Everytime I update, xscreensaver gets reinstalled, and I have to manually emerge -C it: # emerge -auvtND world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-4.4.3 USE=alsa cups oss -minimal -xscreensaver [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.4.3 USE=dbus -debug -gnome [nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.4.3 USE=dbus lock -debug [ebuild N]x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.07 USE=jpeg opengl pam -new-login -suid -xinerama 0 kB It is because of the lock USE flag on xfce-utils. I think it uses xscreensaver for the screen-locking function. I see. An unpleasant side-effect is that the screensaver function keeps kicking in. I guess I'll remove the lock flag from xfce-utils. Oddly, I have the lock flag for xfce-utils on another similar system, and emerge doesn't think it needs xscreensaver on that system. Perhpas because I have xlockmore installed on that system? If you don't want a specific package, echo 'x11-misc/xscreensaver' /etc/portage/package.mask In this case, the dependency is: lock? ( || ( x11-misc/xscreensaver gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver x11-misc/xlockmore ) ) so either gnome-screensaver or xlockmore will be pulled in to compensate. Nick
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can't figure out why emerage wants to build xscreensaver
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 18:36 +, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2009-04-10, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote:
Is something broken in the xfce ebuilds? emerge keeps wanting
to install xscreensaver even though I've got -xscreensaver in my
USE variable in make.conf. Everytime I update, xscreensaver
gets reinstalled, and I have to manually emerge -C it:
# emerge -auvtND world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-4.4.3 USE=alsa cups oss -minimal
-xscreensaver
[nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.4.3 USE=dbus -debug -gnome
[nomerge ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.4.3 USE=dbus lock -debug
[ebuild N]x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.07 USE=jpeg opengl pam
-new-login -suid -xinerama 0 kB
It is because of the lock USE flag on xfce-utils. I think it
uses xscreensaver for the screen-locking function.
I see. An unpleasant side-effect is that the screensaver
function keeps kicking in. I guess I'll remove the lock flag
from xfce-utils. Oddly, I have the lock flag for xfce-utils
on another similar system, and emerge doesn't think it needs
xscreensaver on that system. Perhpas because I have xlockmore
installed on that system?
/usr/portage/xfce-base/xfce-utils/xfce-utils-4.3.3.ebuild:
snip
RDEPEND=x11-apps/xrdb
x11-libs/libX11
=dev-libs/glib-2.6:2
=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6:2
=xfce-base/libxfcegui4-${XFCE_MASTER_VERSION}
=xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-${XFCE_MASTER_VERSION}
=xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-${XFCE_MASTER_VERSION}
dbus? ( dev-libs/dbus-glib )
lock? ( || ( x11-misc/xscreensaver
gnome-extra/gnome-screensaver
x11-misc/xlockmore ) )
/snip
[gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5 = no memory card device
After upgrading to xorg-server-1.5, the /dev/sdb1 device no longer appears when I insert a memory card. Does anyone know why that is? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5 = no memory card device
On Freitag 10 April 2009, Grant wrote: After upgrading to xorg-server-1.5, the /dev/sdb1 device no longer appears when I insert a memory card. Does anyone know why that is? - Grant you also did an udev update and nuked some config files?
Re: [gentoo-user] Should we disable FORTIFY_SOURCE for packages where it is not default?
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:55:36 +0200 Peter Alfredsen loki_...@gentoo.org wrote: CXXFLAGS=-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE That's where most ebuilds will pick it up. +CFLAGS of course. D'oh. /loki_val
Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?
On Freitag 10 April 2009, Dale wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Cheers, Wyatt After the mess with my updates yesterday, I wish portage had a undo feature. emerge demerge man demerge NAME demerge - Revert to previous installation states. VERSION This document refers to version 0.047 of demerge SYNOPSIS demerge [option]... DESCRIPTION Using demerge you can easily record and restore your system state.
Re: [gentoo-user] Should we disable FORTIFY_SOURCE for packages where it is not default?
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:55:36 +0200 Peter Alfredsen loki_...@gentoo.org wrote: I have seen some FORTIFY_SOURCE bugs in the bugzilla and in some cases, people claim the the bug lies in the FORTIFY_SOURCE feature itself (that is, people claim that FORTIFY_SOURCE misidentifies a buffer overflow). One example: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257016 Very rare, but it happens. I have installed GCC-4.3.3 (but have not enabled it through gcc-config yet), but my system is otherwise mostly stable. 1) I would like to use GCC-4.3.3 because it is the latest bugfix release and is presumably more bug-free (correct?). So far, yes. Especially users of -march=amdfam10 flag want this version. Thank you. And do you know of any other new behavior from GCC-4.3.2 to GCC-4.3.3 aside from FORTIFY_SOURCE and warning options such as -Wformat? 2) But until FORTIFY_SOURCE is stable on Gentoo, I don't want it. How can I disable it? CXXFLAGS=-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE That's where most ebuilds will pick it up. Sorry to take your time, but CXXFLAGS? Isn't that for extra flags for the C++ compiler? Isn't the appropriate place CPPFLAGS (extra flags for the C preprocessor)? I even remember a Gentoo bug report in which someone criticized a user for putting a macro definition in CFLAGS, and said that certain ebuilds could fail because of it. Also, am I wise to use GCC 4.3.3 compiler in a mostly stable system? At the moment, we are only processing bugs about _FORTIFY_SOURCE when they can be confirmed on ~arch. As long as you're prepared to use package.keywords liberally, it should be mostly ok. A suggestion: with this kind of tracker (like bug 259417), don't you think it would be useful to have separate trackers for build-time bugs and run-time bugs? This way, users who want to test the new feature (GCC-4.3.3 and _FORTIFY_SOURCE in this case) can easily see if there are run-time bugs affecting them. Build-time bugs are much less worrisome for me. Well, this is a suggestion that seems convenient for users, but you obviously know fare more about Gentoo bug-squashing than me. Thank you for your time. -- Software is like sex: it is better when it is free. --Linus Torvalds
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to shutdown or halt cleanly (console-kit and esd not killed)
Do you have any nfs mounts? I find that I have problems shutting down as well and I suspect it's because I'm turning off eth0 before unmounting my shares. I need to do more research though so I can back this up. On 4/8/09, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Often (now, perhaps always) when I try to halt using either halt from the command line or the shutdown option from the gnome dialog box at the welcome screen the effort fails. If I try to shutdown from gnome, the shutdown hangs at the unmounting file systems. I then tried shutdown now from a text terminal. When in single user mode, I tried umount -a which indicated that several filesystems were still busy. I tried lsof and noticed that console-kit-daemon and esd were still running. I manually kill console-kit-daemon and can then halt. /var/log/messages contains Apr 8 00:32:46 allan console-kit-daemon[6139]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_async_queue_unref: assertion `queue-waiting_threads == 0' failed I would appreciate help in understanding why policy-kit-daemon is not terminating on a normal system shutdown. thanks, allan
[gentoo-user] Frequently seeing error processing environment
Hello. I am new to the list so I apologize if this has been discussed before. I see lots of messages like this one, and it seems to come more often when I am emerging a large number of packages (like emerge -e system): * * ERROR: sys-devel/automake-wrapper-3-r1 failed. * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 1772: Called die * The specific snippet of code: * die error processing environment * The die message: * error processing environment It is difficult to reproduce, as I can typically try that package again or emerge --resume (without --skipfirst) and everything goes fine, until the problem hits a different package. What information would be useful from me in trying to figure out this problem? This has been a problem for me for months now, and I've tried various ideas from bugzilla and the forums to no effect. $ emerge --info Portage 2.2_rc28 (default/linux/x86/2008.0, gcc-4.3.2, glibc-2.8_p20080602-r1, 2 .6.24-gentoo-r3 i686) = System uname: Linux-2.6.24-gentoo-r3-i686-AMD_Duron-tm-_processor-with-glibc2.0 Timestamp of tree: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 06:00:01 + ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 3.2_p39 dev-java/java-config: 2.1.7 dev-lang/python: 2.5.2-r7 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r7 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.63 sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.27-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=athlon-tbird -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d CXXFLAGS=-march=athlon-tbird -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=buildpkg ccache distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch preserve-libs protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv usersandbox usersync GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/gentoo-distfiles/ http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo http://chi-10g-1-mirror.fastsoft.net/pub/linux/gentoo/gentoo-distfiles/ http://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo http://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/; LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT=/ PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--timeout=600 PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/etc/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=acl aim amazon amd aspnet async automount bash-completion berkdb bittorrent bzip2 cdinstall chroot cli colordiff cracklib crypt cscope css cups dedicated device-mapper divx dri ecc emacs fbcon isdnlog java junit logrotate logwatch memlimit mono mudflap ncurses nowebdav nptl nptlonly openmp parport pcre perl ppds pppd python readline reflection samba session spl ssl subversion sysfs tcpd userlocales x86 xorg zlib ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1 ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol APACHE2_MODULES=actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=3dfx Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS Thanks for any help you can give! Joel -- Joel Thibault [AIM: Jole Tebo] Software Engineer in Boston
[gentoo-user] Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard
I had the same problems with the xorg upgrade, so I got some good advice on the xorg mailing list. The big picture first: The plan is to use evdev *instead* of the drivers in xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse, and to make any Input Device sections in xorg.conf completely go away (at least for mice and keyboard; not sure about tablets, joysticks etc). In my xorg.conf there is no mention whatever of mice or keyboards, and xf86-input-keyboard and xf86-input-mouse have been completely deleted from my machine. (xf86-input-evdev is still necessary, of course.) You must have Event Interface enabled in your kernel config file, obscurely located in Device Drivers--Input device support. This step will result in /dev/input/event* after you reboot your new kernel. If you have an unusual mouse, as I do, you will need to create a new fdi file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ to get it working properly. I finally figured out the format for my new file by studying /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-input.fdi. For non- us keyboards you might want to look at 10-keymap.fdi. I named the new file 10-x11-logitech.fdi, and here it is (but watch out for linewrap: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.product contains=ImExPS/2 merge key=input.x11_options.EmulateWheel type=stringtrue/merge merge key=input.x11_options.EmulateWheelButton type=string8/merge /match /device /deviceinfo The xml above replaced these deleted lines in my xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver evdev Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/event4 Option Emulate3Buttons True Option EmulateWheel True Option EmulateWheelButton 8 EndSection Notice that evdev doesn't need to be told which device to use :o) What? You couldn't figure all of this out by reading man pages???
[gentoo-user] Re: Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard
walt wrote:
...
If you have an unusual mouse, as I do, you will need to create a
new fdi file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ to get it working properly.
Oops, forgot to mention /usr/bin/lshal, which will tell you what
hald thinks it knows about your hardware.
As one more example, here is what lshal says about my logitech
mouse *after* I added my /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-logitech.fdi:
udi =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'
info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.mouse'} (string list)
info.category = 'input' (string)
info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'
(string)
info.product = 'ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse' (string)
info.subsystem = 'input' (string)
info.udi =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'
(string)
input.device = '/dev/input/event4' (string)
input.originating_device =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port' (string)
input.product = 'ImExPS/2 Logitech Explorer Mouse' (string)
input.x11_driver = 'evdev' (string)
input.x11_options.EmulateWheel = 'true' (string) *** my new fdi file added
this line
input.x11_options.EmulateWheelButton = '8' (string) *** and this line, but
nothing else
linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event4' (string)
linux.hotplug_type = 2 (0x2) (int)
linux.subsystem = 'input' (string)
linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4/event4'
(string)
HTF the average user is supposed to figure all this out for himself
is beyond me. I'm thankful for the expert help I got.
Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 10 April 2009, Dale wrote: Wyatt Epp wrote: Greets, So while gearing up for the Summer of Code, I noted a lot of things that I had come to accept as normal that I feel should not be so. Things like the danger of depclean or the way portage will only show one mask at a time. So I was curious...what have people that are /not/ myself and my mate noticed that is mildly irritating and disruptive to the Gentoo experience? Cheers, Wyatt After the mess with my updates yesterday, I wish portage had a undo feature. emerge demerge man demerge NAME demerge - Revert to previous installation states. VERSION This document refers to version 0.047 of demerge SYNOPSIS demerge [option]... DESCRIPTION Using demerge you can easily record and restore your system state. Holy crap. I'm not going to say that I can't believe someone already thought of this. I got to look into this, like yesterday. LOL Dale :-) :-) P. S. I wish the link had a man page or something.
[gentoo-user] Re: Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard
walt wrote: [...] HTF the average user is supposed to figure all this out for himself is beyond me. I'm thankful for the expert help I got. Gentoo is not for the average user. We had discussions in the past where GUIs were discussed to make these things automagic, but most Gentoo users here prefer that Gentoo should not offer such GUIs so that the user can learn and not become clueless. So congratulations. You've learned. It's funny though how the users that were against introducing GUIs to Gentoo now complain about HAL :P
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse
Hartmut Figge wrote: Dale: Sounds like you are having fun with your upgrade too. :-D On my kernel, I'm using 2.6.23. It was the last one I could get to boot so i stuck with it. This one should have the mentioned option of enabling evdev, e.g. with make menuconfig. You can do so, recompile the kernel and keep it in this way. Or you could put the mentioned three lines in xorg.conf to disable hal. Or you could emerge xorg-server with USE=-hal. Hartmut I emerged xorg-server with the -hal and when I right clicked, the GUI crashed. I was back to a login screen. It has been ages since I have had my GUI to crash. All in all, this xorg update has sort of left a bad taste in my mouth. I hate, I do mean HATE, to pull the plug on my rig. I can handle a lot but not that. I still think I'm going to leave xorg masked for a while and let someone that can at least ssh into their box deal with these issues. Personally, I think this was a bit much. To many things left undone and especially unsaid. After following the threads about this, here and on -dev, I am still no where near ready to try this again. Once you are looking at the login screen and the keyboard don't work, you're screwed. There is really no back up at that point, not for me at least. Here's to waiting on hal to upgrade some more. Maybe eselect can help us pick our keyboard and mouse and poke in the correct information so that they work. Maybe running xorgconfig can do this. Still making notes for when I get my backups updated. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg-server and my mouse
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Dale wrote: [...] Yea, one of those lines disables hal tho which I think is the whole point of this upgrade. HAL is a very minor thing in this update. But with an old kernel, well, I can only see problems in the long run. Especially since you're using outdated DRM kernel drivers. If I were you, I would try to sort out your IDE kernel problem. Google a lot about your chipset and the two different drivers for it (legacy IDE drivers vs new libata drivers). I do plan to do this. I think I made some progress a while back. I think I got it to boot but then ran into other issues. It's been a while. I been sick, my Mom has been sick so I don't really have a lot of time to spend on this right now. Not to mention having to pull the plug on my rig. That really left a bad taste in my mouth. I guess I need to sort out the kernel first then fiddle with xorg again, someday. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: walt wrote: [...] HTF the average user is supposed to figure all this out for himself is beyond me. I'm thankful for the expert help I got. Gentoo is not for the average user. We had discussions in the past where GUIs were discussed to make these things automagic, but most Gentoo users here prefer that Gentoo should not offer such GUIs so that the user can learn and not become clueless. So congratulations. You've learned. It's funny though how the users that were against introducing GUIs to Gentoo now complain about HAL :P My complaint was about having a system with basically no keyboard. I had to unplug mine without a proper shutdown. That is my complaint. It should at least have a fall back or something. Heck, running xorgconfig again would have been better than this mess. I wonder if that would work? I do recall at one time that the GUI would not start if no mouse was found. Wonder what happened there? No, I don't have another machine to ssh in. I wish I did. It's have a working keyboard or hit the reset button/pull the plug. Nether is a good option. I bought a nice UPS to prevent this sort of mess. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: walt wrote: [...] HTF the average user is supposed to figure all this out for himself is beyond me. I'm thankful for the expert help I got. Gentoo is not for the average user. We had discussions in the past where GUIs were discussed to make these things automagic, but most Gentoo users here prefer that Gentoo should not offer such GUIs so that the user can learn and not become clueless. So congratulations. You've learned. It's funny though how the users that were against introducing GUIs to Gentoo now complain about HAL :P My complaint was about having a system with basically no keyboard. I had to unplug mine without a proper shutdown. That is my complaint. It should at least have a fall back or something. Heck, running xorgconfig again would have been better than this mess. I wonder if that would work? I do recall at one time that the GUI would not start if no mouse was found. Wonder what happened there? No, I don't have another machine to ssh in. I wish I did. It's have a working keyboard or hit the reset button/pull the plug. Nether is a good option. I bought a nice UPS to prevent this sort of mess. Dale I wonder if magic sysrq would have worked? I don't think I tried it when my keyboard became dead.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Some hints about evdev versus xorg and your mouse and keyboard
Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: walt wrote: [...] HTF the average user is supposed to figure all this out for himself is beyond me. I'm thankful for the expert help I got. Gentoo is not for the average user. We had discussions in the past where GUIs were discussed to make these things automagic, but most Gentoo users here prefer that Gentoo should not offer such GUIs so that the user can learn and not become clueless. So congratulations. You've learned. It's funny though how the users that were against introducing GUIs to Gentoo now complain about HAL :P My complaint was about having a system with basically no keyboard. I had to unplug mine without a proper shutdown. That is my complaint. It should at least have a fall back or something. Heck, running xorgconfig again would have been better than this mess. I wonder if that would work? I do recall at one time that the GUI would not start if no mouse was found. Wonder what happened there? No, I don't have another machine to ssh in. I wish I did. It's have a working keyboard or hit the reset button/pull the plug. Nether is a good option. I bought a nice UPS to prevent this sort of mess. Dale I wonder if magic sysrq would have worked? I don't think I tried it when my keyboard became dead. I couldn't find where I wrote those key sequences down so I couldn't try that. I did try everything else I could think of tho. The keyboard never did a thing. I doubt it would work but it may could have since it is beneath the GUI part. Heck, if I could just switch to a console, that would have been cool. At least then I could do something besides pulling the plug. There has to be a better way. Xorgconfig or something. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Frequently seeing error processing environment
Joel Thibault (Gentoo) wrote: ... It is difficult to reproduce, as I can typically try that package again or emerge --resume (without --skipfirst) and everything goes fine, until the problem hits a different package... That kind of random error is almost always caused by flakey hardware, often caused by overheating. I live in a hot and dusty place, so every summer I start to get this sort of error. Usually I can fix the problem by blowing the dust off of the memory and motherboard with canned compressed air, so the hardware runs much cooler.
[gentoo-user] kdelibs recompile required but not recognized
I am probably missing something really basic here. I get quite a few emerge failures like this: checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first. If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs. The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt configuration settings. !!! Please attach the following file when seeking support: !!! /var/tmp/portage/app-office/karbon-1.6.2/work/karbon-1.6.2/config.log Several remerges of kdelibs don't change it a whit, not even a single solitary son-of-whit. What exactly should I do to clear this up? This is a ~amd64 system. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs recompile required but not recognized
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:52 PM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: I am probably missing something really basic here. I get quite a few emerge failures like this: checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first. If you did install kdelibs, then the Qt version that is picked up by this configure is not the same version you used to compile kdelibs. The Qt Plugin installed by kdelibs is *ONLY* loadable if it is the _same Qt version_, compiled with the _same compiler_ and the same Qt configuration settings. !!! Please attach the following file when seeking support: !!! /var/tmp/portage/app-office/karbon-1.6.2/work/karbon-1.6.2/config.log Several remerges of kdelibs don't change it a whit, not even a single solitary son-of-whit. What exactly should I do to clear this up? This is a ~amd64 system. I see you're trying to install KOffice 1.x. What version of kdelibs and KDE are you using? What version of Qt? Do you have mixed KDE/Qt versions installed? Useing kdeprefix USE flag or not? Thanks :)
[gentoo-user] [OT] Xandros, EEE which partition to chroot
Hi group, Before I can install gentoo on my 4G SSHD EEE 900A, I need to know what partition to use to chroot to. There are four partitions on the SSHD, sda1,2,3,4. sda1 is formatted ext2 and is the largest and contains the file system. sda2 is slightly smaller, formatted ext3 and also has a file system on it, but with fewer files. sda3 is very small, formatted fat32, and is empty. sda4 is formatted fat16, and is empty(I think, I wasn't able to mount it). Why do sda1 and sda2 have virtually the same files on them and why is one formatted ext2 and the other ext3? What is the purpose of the fat partitions? What partitions, size, format etc do list members recommend. I asked this question on the eee forum but got no answer. Maxim __ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
Re: [gentoo-user] VLC use flags request
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Roy Wright r...@wright.org wrote: Howdy, I've been having trouble with VLC (saving from disc, h264+a52) and think it's related to the set of use flags so was hoping some kind soul with a functional VLC wouldn't mind posting their USE flags. I don't know if mine will do what you're trying to do, but it seems to work for what I've tried to do. Here are my USE flags: A quick thank you. I have vlc almost working now but got distracted when I found the new ebuild for handbrake over on b.g.o. FYI handbrake rocks and is 3x faster on my gentoo desktop than my macbook. ;) Thank you, Roy
