Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 23:04, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 17.03.2014 22:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 17.03.2014 22:02, schrieb Poison BL.: I suspect you don't have a WinPE bootable handy (UBCD in particular has the tools handy for this, Hiren's as well), but if you happened to magic one up, there's a quick script called Fix IDE (or Fix HDC which does similar) that reverts to the generic catch-all driver that usually works to get XP booting on new 'hardware' (whether real or otherwise). I wget ubcd right now to that specific server. To understand that correctly: I can boot the VM from the ubcd.iso and run that script ... and somehow apply these fixes to the attached virtual hdd ? I booted from the ubcd.iso but the choices are too much right now, I couldn't find the mentioned Fix IDE or similar. I think you meant http://www.ubcd4win.com/contents.htm and not http://www.ultimatebootcd.com ? ... next download ahead To close this topic: we installed a new VM, attached the old virtual disks and migrated data ... plus restoring some stuff from tape. No fix ide for me now. I will try that for test purposes as soon as I find the time. Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
On 17 March 2014 18:27:42 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Is it correct that vmware-server is out of portage? I have to migrate and upgrade an old box again and it is running kernel 2.6.25 ... now I have 3.10.25 and realise that it won't compile/run vmware-server ... *sigh* So Plan B is migrating the VMs to KVM quickly ... Thanks for pointers, Stefan Not 100% sure, but I think vmware server got deprecated by VMWare themselves? Got replaced by VMWare ESX. Alternatives would be Xen or KVM. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
On 17 March 2014 18:44:15 CET, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 17 March 2014 18:27:42 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Is it correct that vmware-server is out of portage? I have to migrate and upgrade an old box again and it is running kernel 2.6.25 ... now I have 3.10.25 and realise that it won't compile/run vmware-server ... *sigh* So Plan B is migrating the VMs to KVM quickly ... Thanks for pointers, Stefan Not 100% sure, but I think vmware server got deprecated by VMWare themselves? Got replaced by VMWare ESX. Alternatives would be Xen or KVM. -- Joost Yep, just checked wikipedia. Got deprecated. Last version dates back to 2009. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 18:46, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Yep, just checked wikipedia. Got deprecated. Last version dates back to 2009. Yes, I also remember somehow ... so the evening will be spent with installing KVM and migrating 2 VMs ... tmrw morning they expect the services to run. How I love mondays ... ;-) thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
On 17 March 2014 18:48:56 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 17.03.2014 18:46, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Yep, just checked wikipedia. Got deprecated. Last version dates back to 2009. Yes, I also remember somehow ... so the evening will be spent with installing KVM and migrating 2 VMs ... tmrw morning they expect the services to run. How I love mondays ... ;-) thanks Good luck. Mondays are always fun for that. I always prefer weekends for migrations like this. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 18:53, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Good luck. Mondays are always fun for that. I always prefer weekends for migrations like this. I wasn't asked. The motherboard and power supply were dead this morning. And the customer had nothing else at hand ... so I had to plug the disks into another new PC and get things going. But new hardware needs a current kernel ... leading to all this. Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
On 17 March 2014 19:03:07 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 17.03.2014 18:53, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Good luck. Mondays are always fun for that. I always prefer weekends for migrations like this. I wasn't asked. The motherboard and power supply were dead this morning. And the customer had nothing else at hand ... so I had to plug the disks into another new PC and get things going. But new hardware needs a current kernel ... leading to all this. Thanks, Stefan I know. It usually comes at the least convenient moment. I do think it's the customers' fault for not keeping up with normal maintenance schedules. Most companies write off hardware after 3-4 years. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 19:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I know. It usually comes at the least convenient moment. I do think it's the customers' fault for not keeping up with normal maintenance schedules. Most companies write off hardware after 3-4 years. The support contract with the supplier ended in 2011 ... you know ... But OK, I wanted them to do KVM anyway. I just have to invest this evening ... in a way. I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
On Mon, March 17, 2014 19:35, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 17.03.2014 19:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I know. It usually comes at the least convenient moment. I do think it's the customers' fault for not keeping up with normal maintenance schedules. Most companies write off hardware after 3-4 years. The support contract with the supplier ended in 2011 ... you know ... Doesn't surprise me, to be honest... But OK, I wanted them to do KVM anyway. I just have to invest this evening ... in a way. I've been planning to try KVM as well, but am wondering how snapshots work with KVM. Not been able to find anything about that apart from disk-snapshots. No info if it's possible to take a copy of the memory as well. I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long. I don't think it should take very long. :) But, do check that the vmware tools get uninstalled from the guests and replaced by KVM equivalents. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 20:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I've been planning to try KVM as well, but am wondering how snapshots work with KVM. Not been able to find anything about that apart from disk-snapshots. No info if it's possible to take a copy of the memory as well. I run KVM in combo with LVM snapshots for backups. RAM snapshots? Not sure ... I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long. I don't think it should take very long. :) But, do check that the vmware tools get uninstalled from the guests and replaced by KVM equivalents. I have the VMs now, but both are XP guests and therefore crashing because the weren't prepared with something like MergeIDE ... :-( *sigh* Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without* having a running VMware-Server? S
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 20:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without* having a running VMware-Server? This link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/FAQ#How_to_convert_VMware_machines_to_virt-manager.3F says it should be possible to repair the VM by booting from the XP-iso and chose Install (yes, windows after all). Can anyone confirm? I don't have such an iso at hand and it's late here so I am gonna try that at the customer tomorrow Thanks, sorry for being off topic here. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
On 17 March 2014 20:52:29 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 17.03.2014 20:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I've been planning to try KVM as well, but am wondering how snapshots work with KVM. Not been able to find anything about that apart from disk-snapshots. No info if it's possible to take a copy of the memory as well. I run KVM in combo with LVM snapshots for backups. RAM snapshots? Not sure ... I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long. I don't think it should take very long. :) But, do check that the vmware tools get uninstalled from the guests and replaced by KVM equivalents. I have the VMs now, but both are XP guests and therefore crashing because the weren't prepared with something like MergeIDE ... :-( *sigh* Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without* having a running VMware-Server? S Try vmware player or vmware workstationon your own machine? -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 21:15, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without* having a running VMware-Server? Try vmware player or vmware workstationon your own machine? ... vmware-player and/or modules don't compile here on my latest kernel 3.13.x I would have to downgrade etc etc etc enough for today, that's ~13hrs for this stuff already. I will try that boot from XP cd trick tomorrow at the customer. Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
On 17 March 2014 21:18:37 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 17.03.2014 21:15, schrieb J. Roeleveld: Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without* having a running VMware-Server? Try vmware player or vmware workstationon your own machine? ... vmware-player and/or modules don't compile here on my latest kernel 3.13.x I would have to downgrade etc etc etc enough for today, that's ~13hrs for this stuff already. I will try that boot from XP cd trick tomorrow at the customer. Thanks, Stefan It's been a while since I used VMWare myself. Last time was on a MS Windows laptop. Goid luck tomorrow. Might want to prepare migration of the software from XP to something newer. MS is cancelling support. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 17.03.2014 20:30, schrieb J. Roeleveld: I've been planning to try KVM as well, but am wondering how snapshots work with KVM. Not been able to find anything about that apart from disk-snapshots. No info if it's possible to take a copy of the memory as well. I run KVM in combo with LVM snapshots for backups. RAM snapshots? Not sure ... I am right before installing Qemu and configuring the network bridge etc ... the vmdks are already converted. Maybe it doesn't take that long. I don't think it should take very long. :) But, do check that the vmware tools get uninstalled from the guests and replaced by KVM equivalents. I have the VMs now, but both are XP guests and therefore crashing because the weren't prepared with something like MergeIDE ... :-( *sigh* Does anyone know if there is a trick applying these drivers *without* having a running VMware-Server? S I suspect you don't have a WinPE bootable handy (UBCD in particular has the tools handy for this, Hiren's as well), but if you happened to magic one up, there's a quick script called Fix IDE (or Fix HDC which does similar) that reverts to the generic catch-all driver that usually works to get XP booting on new 'hardware' (whether real or otherwise). One thing I absolutely love about AHCI, while Windows 7 still binds to hardware specific drivers in the long run, only having to change 2 registry values (start values in iastorv and msahci) is far, far, easier than the mess XP had for hardware migrations ;) -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 22:02, schrieb Poison BL.: I suspect you don't have a WinPE bootable handy (UBCD in particular has the tools handy for this, Hiren's as well), but if you happened to magic one up, there's a quick script called Fix IDE (or Fix HDC which does similar) that reverts to the generic catch-all driver that usually works to get XP booting on new 'hardware' (whether real or otherwise). I wget ubcd right now to that specific server. To understand that correctly: I can boot the VM from the ubcd.iso and run that script ... and somehow apply these fixes to the attached virtual hdd ? That sounds great ... :-) Thanks for the hint and any additional details, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server is gone?
Am 17.03.2014 22:42, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 17.03.2014 22:02, schrieb Poison BL.: I suspect you don't have a WinPE bootable handy (UBCD in particular has the tools handy for this, Hiren's as well), but if you happened to magic one up, there's a quick script called Fix IDE (or Fix HDC which does similar) that reverts to the generic catch-all driver that usually works to get XP booting on new 'hardware' (whether real or otherwise). I wget ubcd right now to that specific server. To understand that correctly: I can boot the VM from the ubcd.iso and run that script ... and somehow apply these fixes to the attached virtual hdd ? I booted from the ubcd.iso but the choices are too much right now, I couldn't find the mentioned Fix IDE or similar. I think you meant http://www.ubcd4win.com/contents.htm and not http://www.ultimatebootcd.com ? ... next download ahead
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On 2013-04-19 11:22 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: vmware-tools: I have tested open-vm-tools but now I'm running my VMs without them because every kernel upgrade was a real pain in a**. Jarry - can you elaborate on this? I'm trying to see why updating the kernel would be a problem, as long as you keep the same config options?
Re: [gentoo-user] VMware Workstation environment on Gentoo
I cannot access my gentoo box right now, so I can't tell you exactly how many vmnet interface I have. But from what I remember, I have two vmnet: vmnet0 for bridge and vmnet1 for NAT. I am creating several interface on vmware-netcfg, but those interface not connected to physical interface (as explain in this tutorial: http://boerlowie.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/building-the-ultimate-vsphere-lab-part-3-vmware-workstation-8/ ). ok, so AFAIK all you need to do is go to the Settings of a guest, which should open you up on the Hardware tab, then click the + Add button to add a second Network Adapter. -Adam
Re: [gentoo-user] VMware Workstation environment on Gentoo
Hi Adam, Thank you for your reply. Are you using genkernel or configure your own kernel? If you configure you're own kernel, what kernel option did you enable related to Vmware/virtualization? Do you mind send me kernel config file? What useflag did you use to compile Vmware Workstation? On 1/1/14, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: Is there some special configuration to make VMware Workstation on gentoo support virtual machines with more than one NIC? No, it just works. I have some windows vms with multiple nics -- Salam, J.Marcos S. Sent from Maemo™
Re: [gentoo-user] VMware Workstation environment on Gentoo
On 1/1/14, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: Is there some special configuration to make VMware Workstation on gentoo support virtual machines with more than one NIC? No, it just works. I have some windows vms with multiple nics Hi Adam, Thank you for your reply. Are you using genkernel or configure your own kernel? If you configure you're own kernel, what kernel option did you enable related to Vmware/virtualization? Do you mind send me kernel config file? What useflag did you use to compile Vmware Workstation? Note: Sorry for my previous email. I am using gmail and it's set to top posting by default - Salam, J.Marcos S. Sent from Maemo™
Re: [gentoo-user] VMware Workstation environment on Gentoo
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:04 PM, J.Marcos Sitorus gkj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adam, Thank you for your reply. Are you using genkernel or configure your own kernel? If you configure you're own kernel, what kernel option did you enable related to Vmware/virtualization? Do you mind send me kernel config file? What useflag did you use to compile Vmware Workstation? I configured my own kernel. The vmware-modules ebuild will tell you if you're missing any kernel options that you need. The only vmware related USE flag i have is vmware-tools, which grabs the software for the guest vms. Usually all you need to do is setup the vmnet interfaces with vmware-netcfg, then add network hardware to the guest OS and tell it which vmnet interface to use. If you run ifconfig do you have multiple vmnet interfaces? Did you add extra hardware to the guest OS? HTH, Adam
Re: [gentoo-user] VMware Workstation environment on Gentoo
On 1/13/14, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 5:04 PM, J.Marcos Sitorus gkj...@gmail.com wrote: I configured my own kernel. The vmware-modules ebuild will tell you if you're missing any kernel options that you need. Vmware-modules installed successfully on my gentoo box, no missing modules. I just thought maybe there's some missing dependencies on the ebuild. Usually all you need to do is setup the vmnet interfaces with vmware-netcfg, then add network hardware to the guest OS and tell it which vmnet interface to use. If you run ifconfig do you have multiple vmnet interfaces? Did you add extra hardware to the guest OS? HTH, Adam I cannot access my gentoo box right now, so I can't tell you exactly how many vmnet interface I have. But from what I remember, I have two vmnet: vmnet0 for bridge and vmnet1 for NAT. I am creating several interface on vmware-netcfg, but those interface not connected to physical interface (as explain in this tutorial: http://boerlowie.wordpress.com/2011/12/02/building-the-ultimate-vsphere-lab-part-3-vmware-workstation-8/ ). -- Salam, J.Marcos S. Sent from Maemo™
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-player-6.0.0.1295980 and gnome?
Am 27.12.2013 10:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: greets ... I was curious again and unmasked the hardmasked gnome-3.10-stuff as mentioned in https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486484 So far it works fine on both my desktop and thinkpad. The only issue I see right now is vmware-player crashing when I want to open/resume my small Windows-VM. This might have to do with gnome-3.10 or not, no idea! Does anyone else here have problems with the player lately? Couldn't find anything on bgo. Maybe I should install a small WM in parallel to check if it's gnome or not. Recommendations? The underlying reason for needing windows in a VM is the fact that I can't sync my Suunto Ambit2 watch with movescount.com as they don't provide a linux-binary and the moveslink-windows-binary does not install with wine here. ... installed virtualbox and converted that VM ... works for me. Maybe I stay with this and remove vmware-player. S
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-player-6.0.0.1295980 and gnome?
On 29/12/2013 19:29, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 27.12.2013 10:08, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: greets ... I was curious again and unmasked the hardmasked gnome-3.10-stuff as mentioned in https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486484 So far it works fine on both my desktop and thinkpad. The only issue I see right now is vmware-player crashing when I want to open/resume my small Windows-VM. This might have to do with gnome-3.10 or not, no idea! Does anyone else here have problems with the player lately? Couldn't find anything on bgo. Maybe I should install a small WM in parallel to check if it's gnome or not. Recommendations? The underlying reason for needing windows in a VM is the fact that I can't sync my Suunto Ambit2 watch with movescount.com as they don't provide a linux-binary and the moveslink-windows-binary does not install with wine here. ... installed virtualbox and converted that VM ... works for me. Maybe I stay with this and remove vmware-player. I'd second that idea. In the big picture, vbox works better for me all round: - I can create VMs in the app just like workstation does but without having to pay the workstation license - virtualbox-modules practically always just builds fine even on the latest greatest kernel. Vmware modules is stuck on 3.10 and doesn't build yet as shipped on 3.11 or 3.12 - vbox has a headless mode there's more, but overall I just find vbox does what I require on a desktop and doesn't make me jump through hoops to do it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-player-6.0.0.1295980 and gnome?
Am 29.12.2013 22:37, schrieb Alan McKinnon: I'd second that idea. In the big picture, vbox works better for me all round: - I can create VMs in the app just like workstation does but without having to pay the workstation license - virtualbox-modules practically always just builds fine even on the latest greatest kernel. Vmware modules is stuck on 3.10 and doesn't build yet as shipped on 3.11 or 3.12 - vbox has a headless mode there's more, but overall I just find vbox does what I require on a desktop and doesn't make me jump through hoops to do it. thanks ... evaluating this for me ... everything must change ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On 2013-04-19 11:22 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: vmware-tools: I have tested open-vm-tools but now I'm running my VMs without them because every kernel upgrade was a real pain in a**. And trully I did not see any benefit in running vm-tools (maybe it would be different on desktop). For shutdown of Gentoo-VMs from ESXi I use ssh-script or hibernation. Hi Jarry, I missed the significance of this (didn't realize that the vmware tools required modules to be enabled... Can you elaborate on how you execute safe shutdowns of your gentoo vms from the ESXi host? Thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On Sat, April 20, 2013 18:06, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Apr 19, 2013 11:14 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:i SNIPPED Pandu. Do you still use xend on your Xen hosts? I thought that was deprecated? Ah, sorry. What I meant was xstools daemon. It's necessary to properly monitor Linux PV guests on XenServer. It's apparently a simple shell script, which commits suicide when it can't determine what Linux distro it's running in. Need to add several lines of code within the script to enable it to recognize Gentoo and not commit suicide. XenCenter/CloudStack will.afterwards detect that the machine is running Gentoo. Won't affect anything, but better than it reporting unknown Linux :-) That's useful to know. I tend to use binary distro's on the XCP-server myself. But that is because that machine is used to quickly test large applications where I need to ensure the presence of libraries packaged with certain Redhat versions. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On Fri, April 19, 2013 18:42, Jarry wrote: On 19-Apr-13 17:52, Pandu Poluan wrote: Well, for me, XenServer-based virtualization is very very simple. And if I compile the kernel with all Xen PV (paravirtualized) 'FrontEnds', it runs near-natively. Only the xend daemon need some 'tweaking' to run properly. Do a Google search for gentoo xenserver and if you find pages written by me, those are my experiences running Gentoo on top of XenServer, successfully. What I had in mind is administration of hypervisor itself. ESXi is feature-rich product, and to handle all its possibilities (i.e. vMotion, vShield, HA, FT, vCenter, DRS/DPM, FW, etc) one have to spend quite long time by studying and the learning curve is very steep (again, I'm comparing with VServer or OpenVZ/Virtuozzo, I do not know XenServer). Deploying Gentoo-guest (or VM / DomU as they call it) is actually very easy. And after reading your wiki-page I'd say it is easier on ESXi then on XenServer, because there is actually no difference between installing Gentoo on VM, or real hardware (no need for special compile options or special device-files, no limit on boot-loader, etc.). Actually, deploying it on ESXi and on XenServer is both very easy. The difference is, XenServer has 2 options for the guests: 1) Fully Virtualised 2) Paravirtualised ESXi only supports the first. If you install all VMs using the first option, it is very simple. But, if you want maximum (as in, near native) performance, the 2nd option is definitely worth the extra effort. I use a Gentoo Dom0 (Xen Host) with several Gentoo VMs running on top of it. I only had to add a few options to the kernel configuration to get the VMs working. Similar effort to installing a Gentoo guest on ESXi, but on ESXi, I would need to add the VMWare tools to get the VMs to shutdown correctly when I need to shutdown the host. -- Joost Roeleveld
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On Apr 19, 2013 11:14 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote:i Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Apr 19, 2013 10:24 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On 19-Apr-13 16:21, Tanstaafl wrote: Previously I had asked for some help with a preconfigured image, but decided against that, and have been playing and reading. I'm ready to get down to brass tacks with the ultimate goal of getting a new gentoo vm up and running on my esxi host this weekend. Can someone point me to some recent/decent docs on best practices for this? Ideally gentoo related, but just general linux related would be ok too. Things like vmware-tools installation (is open-vm-tools good enough nowadays?), time syncing, snapshots/backups, etc is what I'm looking for. May I join the club? I have been running a few Gentoo-VMs for some time, but I'm still quite new to this ESXi-world. But one I know for sure is that hypervisor-virtualization is much more complex than OS-virtualization (i.e. VServer or OpenVZ which I have used previously). vmware-tools: I have tested open-vm-tools but now I'm running my VMs without them because every kernel upgrade was a real pain in a**. And trully I did not see any benefit in running vm-tools (maybe it would be different on desktop). For shutdown of Gentoo-VMs from ESXi I use ssh-script or hibernation. Snapshots are very well covered by esxi and for backup I use ghetto-vcb tool (script). It tried backuprestore on one of my running Gentoo-VM servers and it works like charm. For VM-hardware I used (iirc) CentOS template, because with other linux 64b I did not get hw-options I wanted to use (LSI-Logic Parallel SCSI controller, and VMXNET3 network adapter). Unfortunatelly there is not a lot info about Gentoo ESXi and what exists is quite outdated (i.e. Gentoo-wiki). But I used guidelines for general linux-VM, and I consulted problems on VMware community web-page... Jarry -- Well, for me, XenServer-based virtualization is very very simple. And if I compile the kernel with all Xen PV (paravirtualized) 'FrontEnds', it runs near-natively. Only the xend daemon need some 'tweaking' to run properly. Do a Google search for gentoo xenserver and if you find pages written by me, those are my experiences running Gentoo on top of XenServer, successfully. Rgds, -- Pandu. Do you still use xend on your Xen hosts? I thought that was deprecated? Ah, sorry. What I meant was xstools daemon. It's necessary to properly monitor Linux PV guests on XenServer. It's apparently a simple shell script, which commits suicide when it can't determine what Linux distro it's running in. Need to add several lines of code within the script to enable it to recognize Gentoo and not commit suicide. XenCenter/CloudStack will.afterwards detect that the machine is running Gentoo. Won't affect anything, but better than it reporting unknown Linux :-) Rgds, --
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On Apr 20, 2013 9:31 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Fri, April 19, 2013 18:42, Jarry wrote: On 19-Apr-13 17:52, Pandu Poluan wrote: Well, for me, XenServer-based virtualization is very very simple. And if I compile the kernel with all Xen PV (paravirtualized) 'FrontEnds', it runs near-natively. Only the xend daemon need some 'tweaking' to run properly. Do a Google search for gentoo xenserver and if you find pages written by me, those are my experiences running Gentoo on top of XenServer, successfully. What I had in mind is administration of hypervisor itself. ESXi is feature-rich product, and to handle all its possibilities (i.e. vMotion, vShield, HA, FT, vCenter, DRS/DPM, FW, etc) one have to spend quite long time by studying and the learning curve is very steep (again, I'm comparing with VServer or OpenVZ/Virtuozzo, I do not know XenServer). Deploying Gentoo-guest (or VM / DomU as they call it) is actually very easy. And after reading your wiki-page I'd say it is easier on ESXi then on XenServer, because there is actually no difference between installing Gentoo on VM, or real hardware (no need for special compile options or special device-files, no limit on boot-loader, etc.). Actually, deploying it on ESXi and on XenServer is both very easy. The difference is, XenServer has 2 options for the guests: 1) Fully Virtualised 2) Paravirtualised ESXi only supports the first. If you install all VMs using the first option, it is very simple. But, if you want maximum (as in, near native) performance, the 2nd option is definitely worth the extra effort. I use a Gentoo Dom0 (Xen Host) with several Gentoo VMs running on top of it. I only had to add a few options to the kernel configuration to get the VMs working. Similar effort to installing a Gentoo guest on ESXi, but on ESXi, I would need to add the VMWare tools to get the VMs to shutdown correctly when I need to shutdown the host. -- Joost Roeleveld True. Since on Gentoo we have access to the source code (and have to compile our own kernel anyways), it's just wasteful top not leverage the near-native performance of full PV (paravirtualized) mode, in which all important devices, namely storage and networking, are offloaded to the dom0 via the proper hypercalls. XenServer also has all the so-called 'advanced' features of VMware, even in the free edition. Citrix only charged for the 'automation' tools (e.g., automatic workload balancing). But if one is well versed with programming and the CloudStack API, one can easily create one's own automation system. In my current employment, I have been busy rebuilding the data center using XenServer, and decommissioning many VMware ESXi hosts while at it. By the end of this year, I expect we will be VMware-free. Rgds, -- Rgds, --
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On 19-Apr-13 16:21, Tanstaafl wrote: Previously I had asked for some help with a preconfigured image, but decided against that, and have been playing and reading. I'm ready to get down to brass tacks with the ultimate goal of getting a new gentoo vm up and running on my esxi host this weekend. Can someone point me to some recent/decent docs on best practices for this? Ideally gentoo related, but just general linux related would be ok too. Things like vmware-tools installation (is open-vm-tools good enough nowadays?), time syncing, snapshots/backups, etc is what I'm looking for. May I join the club? I have been running a few Gentoo-VMs for some time, but I'm still quite new to this ESXi-world. But one I know for sure is that hypervisor-virtualization is much more complex than OS-virtualization (i.e. VServer or OpenVZ which I have used previously). vmware-tools: I have tested open-vm-tools but now I'm running my VMs without them because every kernel upgrade was a real pain in a**. And trully I did not see any benefit in running vm-tools (maybe it would be different on desktop). For shutdown of Gentoo-VMs from ESXi I use ssh-script or hibernation. Snapshots are very well covered by esxi and for backup I use ghetto-vcb tool (script). It tried backuprestore on one of my running Gentoo-VM servers and it works like charm. For VM-hardware I used (iirc) CentOS template, because with other linux 64b I did not get hw-options I wanted to use (LSI-Logic Parallel SCSI controller, and VMXNET3 network adapter). Unfortunatelly there is not a lot info about Gentoo ESXi and what exists is quite outdated (i.e. Gentoo-wiki). But I used guidelines for general linux-VM, and I consulted problems on VMware community web-page... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On Apr 19, 2013 10:24 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On 19-Apr-13 16:21, Tanstaafl wrote: Previously I had asked for some help with a preconfigured image, but decided against that, and have been playing and reading. I'm ready to get down to brass tacks with the ultimate goal of getting a new gentoo vm up and running on my esxi host this weekend. Can someone point me to some recent/decent docs on best practices for this? Ideally gentoo related, but just general linux related would be ok too. Things like vmware-tools installation (is open-vm-tools good enough nowadays?), time syncing, snapshots/backups, etc is what I'm looking for. May I join the club? I have been running a few Gentoo-VMs for some time, but I'm still quite new to this ESXi-world. But one I know for sure is that hypervisor-virtualization is much more complex than OS-virtualization (i.e. VServer or OpenVZ which I have used previously). vmware-tools: I have tested open-vm-tools but now I'm running my VMs without them because every kernel upgrade was a real pain in a**. And trully I did not see any benefit in running vm-tools (maybe it would be different on desktop). For shutdown of Gentoo-VMs from ESXi I use ssh-script or hibernation. Snapshots are very well covered by esxi and for backup I use ghetto-vcb tool (script). It tried backuprestore on one of my running Gentoo-VM servers and it works like charm. For VM-hardware I used (iirc) CentOS template, because with other linux 64b I did not get hw-options I wanted to use (LSI-Logic Parallel SCSI controller, and VMXNET3 network adapter). Unfortunatelly there is not a lot info about Gentoo ESXi and what exists is quite outdated (i.e. Gentoo-wiki). But I used guidelines for general linux-VM, and I consulted problems on VMware community web-page... Jarry -- Well, for me, XenServer-based virtualization is very very simple. And if I compile the kernel with all Xen PV (paravirtualized) 'FrontEnds', it runs near-natively. Only the xend daemon need some 'tweaking' to run properly. Do a Google search for gentoo xenserver and if you find pages written by me, those are my experiences running Gentoo on top of XenServer, successfully. Rgds, --
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Apr 19, 2013 10:24 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On 19-Apr-13 16:21, Tanstaafl wrote: Previously I had asked for some help with a preconfigured image, but decided against that, and have been playing and reading. I'm ready to get down to brass tacks with the ultimate goal of getting a new gentoo vm up and running on my esxi host this weekend. Can someone point me to some recent/decent docs on best practices for this? Ideally gentoo related, but just general linux related would be ok too. Things like vmware-tools installation (is open-vm-tools good enough nowadays?), time syncing, snapshots/backups, etc is what I'm looking for. May I join the club? I have been running a few Gentoo-VMs for some time, but I'm still quite new to this ESXi-world. But one I know for sure is that hypervisor-virtualization is much more complex than OS-virtualization (i.e. VServer or OpenVZ which I have used previously). vmware-tools: I have tested open-vm-tools but now I'm running my VMs without them because every kernel upgrade was a real pain in a**. And trully I did not see any benefit in running vm-tools (maybe it would be different on desktop). For shutdown of Gentoo-VMs from ESXi I use ssh-script or hibernation. Snapshots are very well covered by esxi and for backup I use ghetto-vcb tool (script). It tried backuprestore on one of my running Gentoo-VM servers and it works like charm. For VM-hardware I used (iirc) CentOS template, because with other linux 64b I did not get hw-options I wanted to use (LSI-Logic Parallel SCSI controller, and VMXNET3 network adapter). Unfortunatelly there is not a lot info about Gentoo ESXi and what exists is quite outdated (i.e. Gentoo-wiki). But I used guidelines for general linux-VM, and I consulted problems on VMware community web-page... Jarry -- Well, for me, XenServer-based virtualization is very very simple. And if I compile the kernel with all Xen PV (paravirtualized) 'FrontEnds', it runs near-natively. Only the xend daemon need some 'tweaking' to run properly. Do a Google search for gentoo xenserver and if you find pages written by me, those are my experiences running Gentoo on top of XenServer, successfully. Rgds, -- Pandu. Do you still use xend on your Xen hosts? I thought that was deprecated? -- Joost -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On 19-Apr-13 16:21, Tanstaafl wrote: Previously I had asked for some help with a preconfigured image, but decided against that, and have been playing and reading. I'm ready to get down to brass tacks with the ultimate goal of getting a new gentoo vm up and running on my esxi host this weekend. Can someone point me to some recent/decent docs on best practices for this? Ideally gentoo related, but just general linux related would be ok too. Things like vmware-tools installation (is open-vm-tools good enough nowadays?), time syncing, snapshots/backups, etc is what I'm looking for. May I join the club? I have been running a few Gentoo-VMs for some time, but I'm still quite new to this ESXi-world. But one I know for sure is that hypervisor-virtualization is much more complex than OS-virtualization (i.e. VServer or OpenVZ which I have used previously). vmware-tools: I have tested open-vm-tools but now I'm running my VMs without them because every kernel upgrade was a real pain in a**. And trully I did not see any benefit in running vm-tools (maybe it would be different on desktop). For shutdown of Gentoo-VMs from ESXi I use ssh-script or hibernation. Snapshots are very well covered by esxi and for backup I use ghetto-vcb tool (script). It tried backuprestore on one of my running Gentoo-VM servers and it works like charm. For VM-hardware I used (iirc) CentOS template, because with other linux 64b I did not get hw-options I wanted to use (LSI-Logic Parallel SCSI controller, and VMXNET3 network adapter). Unfortunatelly there is not a lot info about Gentoo ESXi and what exists is quite outdated (i.e. Gentoo-wiki). But I used guidelines for general linux-VM, and I consulted problems on VMware community web-page... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted. I would suggest installing the vmaare tools when the VM is running on a VMWare server. You get better driver performance and the management tools actually work. -- Joost -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
On 19-Apr-13 17:52, Pandu Poluan wrote: Well, for me, XenServer-based virtualization is very very simple. And if I compile the kernel with all Xen PV (paravirtualized) 'FrontEnds', it runs near-natively. Only the xend daemon need some 'tweaking' to run properly. Do a Google search for gentoo xenserver and if you find pages written by me, those are my experiences running Gentoo on top of XenServer, successfully. What I had in mind is administration of hypervisor itself. ESXi is feature-rich product, and to handle all its possibilities (i.e. vMotion, vShield, HA, FT, vCenter, DRS/DPM, FW, etc) one have to spend quite long time by studying and the learning curve is very steep (again, I'm comparing with VServer or OpenVZ/Virtuozzo, I do not know XenServer). Deploying Gentoo-guest (or VM / DomU as they call it) is actually very easy. And after reading your wiki-page I'd say it is easier on ESXi then on XenServer, because there is actually no difference between installing Gentoo on VM, or real hardware (no need for special compile options or special device-files, no limit on boot-loader, etc.). Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmWare HowTo / best practices
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi all, Previously I had asked for some help with a preconfigured image, but decided against that, and have been playing and reading. I'm ready to get down to brass tacks with the ultimate goal of getting a new gentoo vm up and running on my esxi host this weekend. Can someone point me to some recent/decent docs on best practices for this? Ideally gentoo related, but just general linux related would be ok too. Things like vmware-tools installation (is open-vm-tools good enough nowadays?), time syncing, snapshots/backups, etc is what I'm looking for. Thanks, Charles I used VMware tools but I suspect I didn't need to. As was already mentioned ESX should take care of most of that. Other than that I just followed the gentoo handbook and it all works for me - -- Kvothe Tech kvo...@kvothetech.com http://kvothetech.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: APG v1.0.8 iQJBBAEBCAArBQJRcYtaJBxLdm90aGUgVGVjaCA8a3ZvdGhlQGt2b3RoZXRlY2gu Y29tPgAKCRDpajPkVlu7OjMdD/9CjIt1GVXKC5u1YbBkaV66ThgGQ2p0xArEsoJB ME4hHQGDjrMZy2EmtweRhfHlrK33ln7j/FYlndoUMET93/QvdQ+x5iEnPNsqOkql pdWJxvVV0YqbLXdhJbkhvR9NckkUE+NdIv3eUjh8OmGOOPbb1dzQzR6GmnwxIBZT dtPZb1wET39qC14YFNdOlsmgu6rnO+qkwjJ0XjewlkXkzBVk5p318YLL970R7dAw nYomoVRi36ZYqK97NbBZDMtd6inXS5ARVcs8zjXrmUr49NqypkX0c8HWB57C9BR0 YBYeHPczJ4ZlUQXMot22ccbjM2KFrdASwCp9Ot1BdO1yJOlOO8COVIZHFPryAw1D 6HRaj7C8x5JjXRSFLnuluX/laQUdwFpaZtqyuxXf9tOlxTBJ5XehQLkM954nczjd quex+iHERsLViSg0BwEFnjIrFje8BtLVSlvZ2CSgSUBkvz8KdqyVDsNSsve87E6w +I9NzXAuxb/COLywMwoDI4qstmLGllscdyhbgJQri5N/EweosKtLXviML46cRZx6 Rpw+yLMqz3tCKcTVJpofTx6cYc2IHKapGSZpvo3yP1DMibZfB21SebVRkJ58OjJw SYxzuUfjgxptQkumI/DEoiuoKdzyLo4BDSZsuMToUT1fbTnbSd+hhaHuyWhra2dG Lwyhpg== =bi6L -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] VMware Player 5.0.2
Am 10.04.2013 13:04, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Does anybody in here run mentioned VMware Player 5.0.2 with latest gentoo-sources-3.8.6 ? It fails to even start here ... says Abgebrochen (german ... maybe Cancelled in english?) ... This seems related: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=456262 Downgrading curl didn't help so far ... will try to apply patch. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-tools and revdep-rebuild
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:35:47 +0200 Matthias Hanft m...@hanft.de wrote: Hello, after upgrading the kernel on a Gentoo machine which is a VMWare guest, I also upgraded vmware-tools (this means, emerge the package, mount the .iso with -o loop, and run ./INSTALL). Basically, no problem as usual, but now revdep-rebuild complains about some files which were installed by vmware-tools: --- cut --- * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/bin32/gksu not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/bin32/gksu - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libconf/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-jpeg.so not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libconf/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-jpeg.so - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libconf/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libconf/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-tiff.so - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libconf/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libconf/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libgksu2.so.0/libgksu2.so.0 not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libgksu2.so.0/libgksu2.so.0 - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libspi.so.0/libspi.so.0 not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libspi.so.0/libspi.so.0 - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libvmware-toolbox.so/libvmware-toolbox.so not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/lib32/libvmware-toolbox.so/libvmware-toolbox.so - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/plugins32/vmusr/libdesktopEvents.so not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/plugins32/vmusr/libdesktopEvents.so - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/plugins32/vmusr/libdndcp.so not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/plugins32/vmusr/libdndcp.so - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/plugins32/vmusr/libresolutionSet.so not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/plugins32/vmusr/libresolutionSet.so - (none) * !!! /usr/lib/vmware-tools/plugins32/vmusr/libunity.so not owned by any package is broken !!! * /usr/lib/vmware-tools/plugins32/vmusr/libunity.so - (none) --- cut --- Seems that most of the files are intended for some graphical desktops (which are not needed here but are installed by vmware-tools anyway). Can I somehow get rid of those messages (apart from just deleting those unneeded libraries which may break other things)? I already tried some configuration with LD_LIBRARY_MASK, but to no avail. You want SEARCH_DIRS and SERACH_DIRS_MASK entires in /etc/revdep-rebuild. man rebdep-rebuild for details -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-tools and revdep-rebuild
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:57:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: man rebdep-rebuild for details That's a bad cold you've got, Alan ;-) -- Neil Bothwick .-Stealth Tagline signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-tools and revdep-rebuild
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:33:24 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 14:57:37 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: man rebdep-rebuild for details That's a bad cold you've got, Alan ;-) Oh dear, yet another typo. At this rate, I'll be losing my grammar-nazi rights very very shortly indeed. It's been a hard day, I now know two things: 1. XBMC will not run on the raspberrypi for any sane definition of run 2. A dead Dell XPS with a heat stressed nVidia graphics can be resurrected with 10 minutes in the wife's hot oven What does this have to do with Gentoo? Nothing really, except that my xbmc dev system runs on this gentoo laptop :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On 2012-06-23 7:11 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-06-22 12:26 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I missed that piece. I presumed there would be writes to the hard disk. Any reason you can't have these guys netboot? Only that I've never done that before with servers, and my only experience with netbooting at all was with LTSP about 10 years ago. I think having 4 CF cards (mirrored pair of mirrored pairs) will be enough redundancy though... ;) Well, these seem to work swimmingly well... now I just need to find some kind of non-flammable/heat resistant insulating material that I can use to keep these cards from touching themselves or the metal cage (see below)... Oh... one other question... These CF adapters only have 2 screw holes (made to go into laptops, not mounted in a cage), so I can't mount them *properly* in the cage... anyone know where I can get 2.5 'shell' cases that I could install these cards in so I can mount them properly? Right now I have to shove a piece of anti-static material in between them and the cage (and each other) to prevent them from accidentally touching (yuck!)...
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On 2012-06-22 12:26 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: OK, I missed that piece. I presumed there would be writes to the hard disk. Any reason you can't have these guys netboot? Only that I've never done that before with servers, and my only experience with netbooting at all was with LTSP about 10 years ago. I think having 4 CF cards (mirrored pair of mirrored pairs) will be enough redundancy though... ;) Oh... one other question... These CF adapters only have 2 screw holes (made to go into laptops, not mounted in a cage), so I can't mount them *properly* in the cage... anyone know where I can get 2.5 'shell' cases that I could install these cards in so I can mount them properly? Right now I have to shove a piece of anti-static material in between them and the cage (and each other) to prevent them from accidentally touching (yuck!)...
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On 2012-06-22 12:04 AM, Matthew Marlowe m...@professionalsysadmin.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I could get 2 of these for each server, each with a mirrored pair of CF (or SD) cards (mirror mode is defined by a jumper or switch on the adapter), then mirror those (in the BIOS), which would result in a total of FOUR CF (or SD) redundant cards (a mirror of 2 mirrored pairs) for the hypervisor... and I can do this for quite a bit less than even a SINGLE 146GB SAS drive... Is there any reason NOT to do this? If you have a small ESX cluster, there are numerous advantages to having some local storage on each your ESX hosts in addition to your primary SAN storage: We actually will be using ONLY local storage... Dell R515's with 8 450GB SAS drives in RAID10 (with one hot spare assigned)... A decent SAN wasn't in the budget (yet, but we may go that route in a year or two)... - Lastly, I never really have been a fan of ESXi as an upgrade from ESX.seems that it was more driven by vmware making windows admins feel more confident since they didn't have to learn linux for ESX console. This is a new install, so not an 'upgrade'... But, there is nothing keeping you from getting mirrored CF/SD cards for the hypervisor boot and also keeping a few mirrored 2TB SATA drives on each host for local datastores (7200rpm SATA is much cheaper than 15K rpm SAS). I do plan on having a couple of large SATA drives in RAID0 (for speed) for temporary snapshots (which I then backup using rsnapshot or my VM backup s/w) and for if I ever need to add some drives to my RAID10 (probably won't, the 1.7TB I'll have is 4 times what we have now which is only 70% utilized)... I get the CF cards today (already have the adapters), so we'll see how this goes this weekend...
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On 2012-06-22 12:04 AM, Matthew Marlowe m...@professionalsysadmin.com wrote: But, there is nothing keeping you from getting mirrored CF/SD cards for the hypervisor boot Also, my questions was more just to which cards are considered best/most stable - SD or CF...
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-06-22 12:04 AM, Matthew Marlowe m...@professionalsysadmin.com wrote: But, there is nothing keeping you from getting mirrored CF/SD cards for the hypervisor boot Also, my questions was more just to which cards are considered best/most stable - SD or CF... Ultimately they both probably have the same flash chips inside of them so if your main concern is reliability, I don't think it matters. If your concern is performance, CF seems to be used in more professional applications and more high-speed CF cards are readily available. In either case I would suggest avoiding the cheap no-name brands. Sandisk Extreme Pro is likely the fastest card you can buy (of either CF or SD form factor), it is available up to 100MB/sec write speeds, but of course your card reader/host needs to support speeds like that. Sandisk also routinely has more than 10x the random I/O performance of most of the other brands which is important when using it on a computer and not in a linear recording device (photos/video).
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On 2012-06-22 11:00 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Also, my questions was more just to which cards are considered best/most stable - SD or CF... Ultimately they both probably have the same flash chips inside of them so if your main concern is reliability, I don't think it matters. If your concern is performance, CF seems to be used in more professional applications and more high-speed CF cards are readily available. In either case I would suggest avoiding the cheap no-name brands. Sandisk Extreme Pro is likely the fastest card you can buy (of either CF or SD form factor), it is available up to 100MB/sec write speeds, but of course your card reader/host needs to support speeds like that. Sandisk also routinely has more than 10x the random I/O performance of most of the other brands which is important when using it on a computer and not in a linear recording device (photos/video). Thanks Paul, that's all pretty much what I'd concluded as well from my research... I went with the 4GB SanDisk Ultra though (30MB/s), since these will only be used to boot the VMWare hypervisor (which runs fully in RAM once it is booted)... Now I'm looking forward to seeing them in action this weekend... :)
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-06-22 11:00 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Tanstaafltansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Also, my questions was more just to which cards are considered best/most stable - SD or CF... Ultimately they both probably have the same flash chips inside of them so if your main concern is reliability, I don't think it matters. If your concern is performance, CF seems to be used in more professional applications and more high-speed CF cards are readily available. In either case I would suggest avoiding the cheap no-name brands. Sandisk Extreme Pro is likely the fastest card you can buy (of either CF or SD form factor), it is available up to 100MB/sec write speeds, but of course your card reader/host needs to support speeds like that. Sandisk also routinely has more than 10x the random I/O performance of most of the other brands which is important when using it on a computer and not in a linear recording device (photos/video). Thanks Paul, that's all pretty much what I'd concluded as well from my research... I went with the 4GB SanDisk Ultra though (30MB/s), since these will only be used to boot the VMWare hypervisor (which runs fully in RAM once it is booted)... Now I'm looking forward to seeing them in action this weekend... :) OK, I missed that piece. I presumed there would be writes to the hard disk. Any reason you can't have these guys netboot? -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: I could get 2 of these for each server, each with a mirrored pair of CF (or SD) cards (mirror mode is defined by a jumper or switch on the adapter), then mirror those (in the BIOS), which would result in a total of FOUR CF (or SD) redundant cards (a mirror of 2 mirrored pairs) for the hypervisor... and I can do this for quite a bit less than even a SINGLE 146GB SAS drive... Is there any reason NOT to do this? If you have a small ESX cluster, there are numerous advantages to having some local storage on each your ESX hosts in addition to your primary SAN storage: - Testing major ESX version upgrades prior to rolling out to cluster (converting VM's to new hardware format, while leaving old VM's on SAN) - If your setup is too small to have high performance spare SAN devices + storage, what do you do when you have to do a major upgrade of the SAN and/or possibly perform data destructive RAID format changes? iSCSI storage vmotion would allow you to migrate VM's to local storage on ESX servers while SAN is upgraded...several extra hard drives + raid controllers are cheaper than buying another equalogic/emc device. - Some cluster backup software like to replicate backup data outside of the SAN and backup server.I felt much better when I was performing nightly backups from the SAN to local storage on the ESX boxes and then exporting the dedup'd backup data to backup server for writing to tape. But, there are many ways to resolve this. - Local ESX storage is much cheaper than SAN...there were several cases where I used to run production VM's via SAN, and temporary dev/test VM's on ESX server local storage - Lastly, I never really have been a fan of ESXi as an upgrade from ESX.seems that it was more driven by vmware making windows admins feel more confident since they didn't have to learn linux for ESX console. But, there is nothing keeping you from getting mirrored CF/SD cards for the hypervisor boot and also keeping a few mirrored 2TB SATA drives on each host for local datastores (7200rpm SATA is much cheaper than 15K rpm SAS). Of course, for large ESX clusters, you can probably afford numerous SAN devices which would negate most of the above. Matt
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On 2012-06-19 10:28 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: CF is really behind the times. Really? Nothing I've read indicates that - can you point me to something that discusses how/why Cf is 'behind the times'? I'm serious, I just ordered the CF adapter/cards, but I'm fully prepared to send them back if you can show me something authoritative that backs up that claim... Thanks, Charles
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi everyone, Ok, here's my dilemma... I have some new Dell R515 servers (12 bay versions). These do not have any Dell supported internal SD (or CF) card options for the hypervisor, but they do have an internal 2.5 dual SATA/SAS drive cage, for running a bootable OS (in my case the ESXi hypervisor)... Well, I really hate the idea of wasting money and disk space (for 2 146GB SAS drives to be run in a mirror, what is being recommended to me) on something that only requires about 32MB to install (the hypervisor) when apparently there is a really cool option like: for CF cards: http://www.addonics.com/products/ad2sahdcf.php or for SD cards: http://www.addonics.com/products/ad2sahdcf.php I could get 2 of these for each server, each with a mirrored pair of CF (or SD) cards (mirror mode is defined by a jumper or switch on the adapter), then mirror those (in the BIOS), which would result in a total of FOUR CF (or SD) redundant cards (a mirror of 2 mirrored pairs) for the hypervisor... and I can do this for quite a bit less than even a SINGLE 146GB SAS drive... Is there any reason NOT to do this? What am I missing (other than the fact that Dell won't support this config, but I'm not using them for software support anyway)? Appreciate any/all comments... I'd say give it a shot on something non-critical, see if it works. The big thing I'd be uncertain of is bootup time for the Addonics adapter...how long before it tells the SATA controller it's ready? Incidentally, I think that adapter is brilliant. I might snag one in a few months and set up the Gentoo live DVD as a read-only boot install. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:47:10 -0400 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Hi everyone, Ok, here's my dilemma... I have some new Dell R515 servers (12 bay versions). These do not have any Dell supported internal SD (or CF) card options for the hypervisor, but they do have an internal 2.5 dual SATA/SAS drive cage, for running a bootable OS (in my case the ESXi hypervisor)... Well, I really hate the idea of wasting money and disk space (for 2 146GB SAS drives to be run in a mirror, what is being recommended to me) on something that only requires about 32MB to install (the hypervisor) when apparently there is a really cool option like: for CF cards: http://www.addonics.com/products/ad2sahdcf.php or for SD cards: http://www.addonics.com/products/ad2sahdcf.php I could get 2 of these for each server, each with a mirrored pair of CF (or SD) cards (mirror mode is defined by a jumper or switch on the adapter), then mirror those (in the BIOS), which would result in a total of FOUR CF (or SD) redundant cards (a mirror of 2 mirrored pairs) for the hypervisor... and I can do this for quite a bit less than even a SINGLE 146GB SAS drive... Is there any reason NOT to do this? What am I missing (other than the fact that Dell won't support this config, but I'm not using them for software support anyway)? Appreciate any/all comments... Charles With my last batch of ESX hosts, someone forgot to order the R710 SD internal add-on. But it has 8 x 600M SAS drives So what I did is configured all drives as a RAID 10 and let ESX grab enough for the hypervisor and leave the rest for regular storage. I figured that ESX is an appliance anyway, there's nothing on it I can't get back by running the installer again, I have backups of the isos and templates. And if a drive pokes and takes out a guest, I still equally screwed regardless of whether I gave some space away to the hypervisor or not. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On 2012-06-19 9:56 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: With my last batch of ESX hosts, someone forgot to order the R710 SD internal add-on. But it has 8 x 600M SAS drives So what I did is configured all drives as a RAID 10 and let ESX grab enough for the hypervisor and leave the rest for regular storage. That was my initial plan, but I really like the idea of having the hypervisor separated... and I also like the idea of running it on FLASH media... I'll be ordering the Addonics today, and will report back if everything works as expected/hoped... Anyone have any recommendation for a high quality/high-speed (but smallest capacity) CF media to put in these?
Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare Hypervisor - SD vs CF card?
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2012-06-19 9:56 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: With my last batch of ESX hosts, someone forgot to order the R710 SD internal add-on. But it has 8 x 600M SAS drives So what I did is configured all drives as a RAID 10 and let ESX grab enough for the hypervisor and leave the rest for regular storage. That was my initial plan, but I really like the idea of having the hypervisor separated... and I also like the idea of running it on FLASH media... I'll be ordering the Addonics today, and will report back if everything works as expected/hoped... Anyone have any recommendation for a high quality/high-speed (but smallest capacity) CF media to put in these? CF is really behind the times. I'd probably suggest going with one of the SD adapters, and picking up whatever card professional photographers swear by. Based on recent experience, I'd also suggest keeping it small. 2GB or less...which is more than what you need. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
Am 20.10.2011 18:47, schrieb Mark Knecht: Gentoo hosts run KVM, in there virtual Windows-machines for various specific software they need. Stable so far. Good to know. Maybe I'll give it a try. reply 2, new thoughts (perspective: running *one* Windows-XP-VM on a desktop-machine, for some specific software): Linux 3.1 brings KVM-related improvements. I will check those. I don't see any performance-issues here with KVM, waiting for vmware-player just out of curiosity ... (and KVM is told to be more efficient anyway, closer-to/inside the kernel). Choosing KVM would mean running only one virtualization here, simplifying things and going the open-source path. I simply haven't migrated that one XP-VM yet because I didn't need to so far. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
Am 19.10.2011 23:14, schrieb Mark Knecht: I've decided to stick with vmware-player-3.1.4 for use as a Netflix VM only. All of my real work is done in Virtualbox VMs using both 32-bit NT and 64-bit Win 7. The only problem I've had recently is that my dual monitor Win 7 VM tends to 'abort' about 40% of the time when starting. Once it's up and running it's fine, but getting it started on any day is pretty much hit-or-miss. hmm, nothing I long for --- I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay). Thanks, S
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 05:53, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 19.10.2011 23:14, schrieb Mark Knecht: I've decided to stick with vmware-player-3.1.4 for use as a Netflix VM only. All of my real work is done in Virtualbox VMs using both 32-bit NT and 64-bit Win 7. The only problem I've had recently is that my dual monitor Win 7 VM tends to 'abort' about 40% of the time when starting. Once it's up and running it's fine, but getting it started on any day is pretty much hit-or-miss. hmm, nothing I long for --- I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay). Thanks, S I've had rather pleasant experiences with virtualbox. Less libhell/libnazism, too. Plus, less drivers to modprobe (just vboxdrv, vboxnet as needed) instead of the 4 or so needed for vmware.
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
Am 20.10.2011 11:56, schrieb Andrey Moshbear: I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay). I've had rather pleasant experiences with virtualbox. Less libhell/libnazism, too. Plus, less drivers to modprobe (just vboxdrv, vboxnet as needed) instead of the 4 or so needed for vmware. As Nikos mentioned, no problem. I have Linux KVM also available here, so instead of migrating the VM to virtualbox (and installing that) I could also migrate the VM to KVM and get rid of VMware. Using the player was only kind of curiosity back then and then staying with it for that one particular VM (back then I had problems w/ specific USB-devices in KVM. Should be solved long ago) S
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.10.2011 11:56, schrieb Andrey Moshbear: I stay w/ vmware-player-3.1.5 for now (out of vmware-overlay). I've had rather pleasant experiences with virtualbox. Less libhell/libnazism, too. Plus, less drivers to modprobe (just vboxdrv, vboxnet as needed) instead of the 4 or so needed for vmware. As Nikos mentioned, no problem. I have Linux KVM also available here, so instead of migrating the VM to virtualbox (and installing that) I could also migrate the VM to KVM and get rid of VMware. Using the player was only kind of curiosity back then and then staying with it for that one particular VM (back then I had problems w/ specific USB-devices in KVM. Should be solved long ago) S I've wanted to try out the Linux KVM stuff but watching the development list gave me the feeling it wasn't stable enough to depend on day to day. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
Am 20.10.2011 15:00, schrieb Mark Knecht: I've wanted to try out the Linux KVM stuff but watching the development list gave me the feeling it wasn't stable enough to depend on day to day. I have that stuff out at customers. Gentoo hosts run KVM, in there virtual Windows-machines for various specific software they need. Stable so far.
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 20.10.2011 15:00, schrieb Mark Knecht: I've wanted to try out the Linux KVM stuff but watching the development list gave me the feeling it wasn't stable enough to depend on day to day. I have that stuff out at customers. Gentoo hosts run KVM, in there virtual Windows-machines for various specific software they need. Stable so far. Good to know. Maybe I'll give it a try. The following is more for my own to do list. Feel free to respond if you know of a good Gentoo oriented web page for using KVM. - I believe I've read that somehow I can convert my VMware Player image to something that KVM runs directly. Is that correct? If so I can move there pretty quickly, at least in terms of a simple test. - I suppose there's a bunch of kernel config I need to do first, as well as emerge some sort of KVM apps? Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
Am 20.10.2011 18:47, schrieb Mark Knecht: The following is more for my own to do list. Feel free to respond if you know of a good Gentoo oriented web page for using KVM. http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KVM ? - I believe I've read that somehow I can convert my VMware Player image to something that KVM runs directly. Is that correct? If so I can move there pretty quickly, at least in terms of a simple test. KVM is able to use (some versions) of vmdk-files, yes. Converting images is also possible, for examples see: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/convert-vmware-vmdk-to-kvm-qcow2-or-virtualbox-vdi/ - I suppose there's a bunch of kernel config I need to do first, as well as emerge some sort of KVM apps? See mentioned wiki-page for a start. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
Am 14.10.2011 00:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Anyone hitting the same issue? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6824432.html?sid=ff31450ec4a661979b3545e662bdfbb1 AFAI understand glibc-2.13-r4 (as in ~amd64 right now) is too new for the vmware-binary? Did I understand correctly? Is there a workaround? Downgrading glibc is not the way to go, ey? ;-) So the answer is no? Or noone ;-) S
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware Player 4 from vmware-overlay
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 14.10.2011 00:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Anyone hitting the same issue? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6824432.html?sid=ff31450ec4a661979b3545e662bdfbb1 AFAI understand glibc-2.13-r4 (as in ~amd64 right now) is too new for the vmware-binary? Did I understand correctly? Is there a workaround? Downgrading glibc is not the way to go, ey? ;-) So the answer is no? Or noone ;-) S I've decided to stick with vmware-player-3.1.4 for use as a Netflix VM only. All of my real work is done in Virtualbox VMs using both 32-bit NT and 64-bit Win 7. The only problem I've had recently is that my dual monitor Win 7 VM tends to 'abort' about 40% of the time when starting. Once it's up and running it's fine, but getting it started on any day is pretty much hit-or-miss. HTH, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware opengl
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo guest on vmware to see how the latest DMs are coming along. The current KDE4 is vastly improved from last time, extremely responsive and everything is really nice...except that I cannot get opengl working for compositing. The virtual machine has acceleration enabled, everything relevant has opengl compiled. I'm not very experienced with X/opengl/etc so I'm not sure what else needs to be done. AFAIK there is nothing working currently that allows you to use 3D acceleration in linux guest in VMWare. There are several non-working, half-working, used-to-work-but-don't-anymore projects trying to achieve it, but they're generally unmaintained and more of proof-of-concept than ready for users. The 3D acceleration does work for Windows guests, using the vmware helper drivers. Last time I tried it (a year or so ago), it worked as far as 3D being detected by the guest OS, but was not actually useable for anything real because it was so buggy and incomplete. I think the official way to use 3D in linux vmware guest is to use the vmwgfx kernel module, building some specific (patched?) libdrm, mesa with certain gallium configuration options, and enabling some magic switches in your xorg.conf, though I have read that this hasn't worked in a year or two. If you're using old versions of kernel everything then maybe it could work... But I'm no expert in this area, maybe I'm wrong. ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware opengl
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi list, I have to run windows most of the time on my main desktop for work reasons, but every now and then I install a gentoo guest on vmware to see how the latest DMs are coming along. The current KDE4 is vastly improved from last time, extremely responsive and everything is really nice...except that I cannot get opengl working for compositing. The virtual machine has acceleration enabled, everything relevant has opengl compiled. I'm not very experienced with X/opengl/etc so I'm not sure what else needs to be done. AFAIK there is nothing working currently that allows you to use 3D acceleration in linux guest in VMWare. There are several non-working, half-working, used-to-work-but-don't-anymore projects trying to achieve it, but they're generally unmaintained and more of proof-of-concept than ready for users. The 3D acceleration does work for Windows guests, using the vmware helper drivers. Last time I tried it (a year or so ago), it worked as far as 3D being detected by the guest OS, but was not actually useable for anything real because it was so buggy and incomplete. I think the official way to use 3D in linux vmware guest is to use the vmwgfx kernel module, building some specific (patched?) libdrm, mesa with certain gallium configuration options, and enabling some magic switches in your xorg.conf, though I have read that this hasn't worked in a year or two. If you're using old versions of kernel everything then maybe it could work... But I'm no expert in this area, maybe I'm wrong. ;) I will add that maybe you can do something more simple like client/server relationship between your host and guest, just use your non-virtual X server to render the remote (virtualized) programs.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-player w/ linux-2.6.39
Am 19.05.2011 23:52, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Just wanted to point you vmware-users to a patch for vmware-modules: http://weltall.heliohost.org/wordpress/2011/05/14/running-vmware-workstation-player-on-linux-2-6-39-updated/ Built my own little ebuild in an overlay, now vmware-player runs fine w/ fresh new gentoo-sources-2.6.39 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368139
Re: [gentoo-user] VMware - Linux kernel yield() functionality is disabled.
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:43 on Thursday 04 November 2010, Mark Knecht did opine thusly: Hi, When starting VMware-Player I get the following message: The host's Linux kernel yield() functionality is disabled. Multiprocessor virtual machines exhibit degraded performance without yield(). Choose 'OK' to enable the sysctl 'kernel.sched_compat_yield' or 'Cancel' to continue without yield(). Looking around at VMware's site they recommend changing /etc/sysctl.conf to enable the feature: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=di splayKCexternalId=1027987 I can do that but I'm pretty sure that if I edit that file then I'll lose the edits some day when doing etc-update's. I'm wondering if there's a more Gentoo way to turn on a kernel feature like this so that it survives updates without my full attention. Gentoo way: Use conf-update (or etc-update if you must) use merge function tell computer what you want it to do Ubuntu way: it survives updates without my full attention maintainer tells user what he thinks the computer should do frustrate user, user gives up in apathy and says Oh well... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware - help
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Iain Buchanan iai...@netspace.net.au wrote: Hi all, looking for some serious vmware debugging help! I've had vmware-workstation working for ages, but sometime this year (ok I use it sporadically!) it's stopped. I don't know if its the old GTK issue or what. No google searches has found anything similar, although I've tried a lot of suggestions I found anyway. Most recently I've recompiled the kernel, modules and workstation. I currently using workstation 6.5.4.246459 with tuxonice sources 2.6.35 and modules 1.0.0.25-r1 SNIP If you have working VMWare images then you might (in the short term - until you solve this problem) get the VMWare Player and use it to run what you need right now. I found that once I had set up a few Windows images I didn't need Workstation anymore. True, it has some nice features, but I wasn't using them. I use the Pentoo overlay for my copy of the Player. I'm sure it's available elsewhere. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware - help
My principle for using vmware on Gentoo is; use the latest vmware, do not use the latest kernel. I'm using Workstation 7.1.2, which works well with 2.6.34, also works with 2.6.35 (but wants to rebuild one kernel module every time it runs, which I havent tried to fix).
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware fail - malloc other wierd errors
it's always the way, but I have vmplayer running now, by some magic set of events: sudo emerge --config vmware-player sudo /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmplayer (didn't work) VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_GTK=force vmplayer the final command worked, where it didn't before, so I don't get why. Now to try vmware-workstation and see... -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au All laws are simulations of reality. -- John C. Lilly
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
Am 30.04.2010 18:55, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: It's not THAT bad here, but the XP-guest takes a while to boot, yes. Right now I simply don't shutdown the guest and hibernate-to-ram the whole linux-box. I moved the VM from a LV formatted with XFS to another LV formatted with ext4 (both mounted with noatime). It seems to help a bit, the VM boots faster and also works smoother. iotop shows less load for kdmflush as well. Just for the records ... Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
Am 29.04.2010 20:22, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 18.03.2010 22:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 13.03.2010 19:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: If you are on linux soft raid you might check your disks for errors with smartmontools. Other than that the only thing I can think of is something like a performance regression in the ide/scsi/sata controller (on host or virtual) or mdadm on host. If the host system is bogged before starting vmware instances I would suspect the former (host controller or mdadm). The disks look good so far ... Just to bump this one up again ... Hard disks OK, ran long smart-tests, completely ok. Still that high io-load from kdmflush. No change since then. What do you guys use? RAID1, RAID0 ?? LVM? Specific filesystems? I could also transfer it to another box using NFSv4 ... but that wasn't much difference back then. I would like to hear your thoughts, thanks, Stefan Hi! I just want to tell you that I experience similar problems with vmware-player. I'm currently on kernel 2.6.32. The guest system is a Ubuntu with an Oracle Express database (used for a database lecture I'm taking). The system feels like it swaps out the complete host system when I switch to the guest system and vice versa although there is plenty of free memory. It is so bad that the system becomes completely unusable for more than 15 minutes. I didn't investigate it yet because I don't really need that guest OS. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
Am 30.04.2010 16:41, schrieb Florian Philipp: I just want to tell you that I experience similar problems with vmware-player. Good to hear that ... in a way. I'm currently on kernel 2.6.32. The guest system is a Ubuntu with an Oracle Express database (used for a database lecture I'm taking). I had those problems with 2.6.32 as well. Should try to go back further for a check ... The system feels like it swaps out the complete host system when I switch to the guest system and vice versa although there is plenty of free memory. It is so bad that the system becomes completely unusable for more than 15 minutes. I didn't investigate it yet because I don't really need that guest OS. Good for you ;-) It's not THAT bad here, but the XP-guest takes a while to boot, yes. Right now I simply don't shutdown the guest and hibernate-to-ram the whole linux-box. Thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
Am 18.03.2010 22:16, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 13.03.2010 19:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: If you are on linux soft raid you might check your disks for errors with smartmontools. Other than that the only thing I can think of is something like a performance regression in the ide/scsi/sata controller (on host or virtual) or mdadm on host. If the host system is bogged before starting vmware instances I would suspect the former (host controller or mdadm). The disks look good so far ... Just to bump this one up again ... Hard disks OK, ran long smart-tests, completely ok. Still that high io-load from kdmflush. No change since then. What do you guys use? RAID1, RAID0 ?? LVM? Specific filesystems? I could also transfer it to another box using NFSv4 ... but that wasn't much difference back then. I would like to hear your thoughts, thanks, Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
Am 13.03.2010 19:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: If you are on linux soft raid you might check your disks for errors with smartmontools. Other than that the only thing I can think of is something like a performance regression in the ide/scsi/sata controller (on host or virtual) or mdadm on host. If the host system is bogged before starting vmware instances I would suspect the former (host controller or mdadm). The disks look good so far ... Just to bump this one up again ... Hard disks OK, ran long smart-tests, completely ok. Still that high io-load from kdmflush. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
Am 12.03.2010 23:37, schrieb Kyle Bader: If the elevated iowait from iostat is on the host you might be able to find something hogging you io bandwidth with iotop. Also look for D state procs with ps auxr. Are you on a software raid? Yes, sw-raid level 1, two SATA-disks. iotop points to kdmflush, whatever that is ... equery doesn't know it, so I assume it's some kind of kernel-process? device-mapper-related ? dm ... If you are on linux soft raid you might check your disks for errors with smartmontools. Other than that the only thing I can think of is something like a performance regression in the ide/scsi/sata controller (on host or virtual) or mdadm on host. If the host system is bogged before starting vmware instances I would suspect the former (host controller or mdadm). The disks look good so far ... thanks, S
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
Am 11.03.2010 16:54, schrieb Kyle Bader: If you use the cfq scheduler (linux default) you might try turning off low latency mode (introduced in 2.6.32): Echo 0 /sys/class/block/device name/queue/iosched/low_latency http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_32 That sounded good, but unfortunately it is not really doing the trick. The VM still takes minutes to boot ... and this after I copied it back to the RAID1-array which should in theory be faster than the noraid-partition before. Thanks anyway, I will test that setting ... Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
If the elevated iowait from iostat is on the host you might be able to find something hogging you io bandwidth with iotop. Also look for D state procs with ps auxr. Are you on a software raid? If you are on linux soft raid you might check your disks for errors with smartmontools. Other than that the only thing I can think of is something like a performance regression in the ide/scsi/sata controller (on host or virtual) or mdadm on host. If the host system is bogged before starting vmware instances I would suspect the former (host controller or mdadm). On 3/11/10, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 11.03.2010 16:54, schrieb Kyle Bader: If you use the cfq scheduler (linux default) you might try turning off low latency mode (introduced in 2.6.32): Echo 0 /sys/class/block/device name/queue/iosched/low_latency http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_32 That sounded good, but unfortunately it is not really doing the trick. The VM still takes minutes to boot ... and this after I copied it back to the RAID1-array which should in theory be faster than the noraid-partition before. Thanks anyway, I will test that setting ... Stefan -- Sent from my mobile device Kyle
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
If you use the cfq scheduler (linux default) you might try turning off
low latency mode (introduced in 2.6.32):
Echo 0 /sys/class/block/device name/queue/iosched/low_latency
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_32
On 3/10/10, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Recently I see bad performance with my vmware-server.
Loads of harddisk IO ... even bad on the RAID1, disks working all the
time (I hear them and iostat tells me).
Might have to do with kernel 2.6.33 and non-fitting vmware-modules?
I masked some modules back then because they didn't work, maybe they
would now.
Could someone tell me what combo works with gentoo-sources-2.6.33 ?
I currently have:
# eix vmware-mod
[I] app-emulation/vmware-modules
Available versions: 1.0.0.15-r1 1.0.0.15-r2 (~)1.0.0.24-r1{tbz2}
[m]1.0.0.25-r1 [m](~)1.0.0.26 {kernel_linux}
Installed versions: 1.0.0.24-r1{tbz2}(20:34:53
01.03.2010)(kernel_linux)
# eix vmware-ser
[I] app-emulation/vmware-server
Available versions: 1.0.8.126538!s 1.0.9.156507!s
(~)1.0.10.203137!s (~)2.0.1.156745-r3!s{tbz2} (~)2.0.2.203138!f!s{tbz2}
Installed versions: 2.0.2.203138!f!s{tbz2}(20:19:33 10.03.2010)
Thanks in advance, Stefan
--
Sent from my mobile device
Kyle
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-workstation from vmware overlay broken digest
On Monday 01 March 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: If any dev from the vmware overlay reads this, please fix this one: Calculating dependencies / * Digest verification failed: * /var/lib/layman/vmware/app-emulation/vmware-workstation/vmware-workstation- 7.0.1.227600.ebuild * Reason: Failed on RMD160 verification * Got: 3619a7454b53411695537b5eb73d9213422b4097 * Expected: 9ba2a1698c4618d95bed0ca6e42cb4aaf38c8762 I don't know where to report bugs for ebuilds that are in overlays. I suppose something like perl -ne 'print name$1/name if /herd(.*?)\/herd/' /usr/local/portage/app-emulation/vmware-server/metadata.xml | grep -A2 -Ff- /usr/portage/metadata/herds.xml could be a starting point?
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-tools has broken lib
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:25:57 +0800, Xi Shen wrote: the system seems working well, but it is really annoying seeing them every time. is there any way to resolve this? or can i tel revdep-rebuild not to check these files? echo /usr/lib64/vmware-tools/lib64 /etc/revdep-rebuild/90-vmware-tools Read the comments in /etc/revdep-rebuild/99revdep-rebuild -- Neil Bothwick If you use envelopes, why not encryption ? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-tools has broken lib
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:25:57 +0800, Xi Shen wrote: the system seems working well, but it is really annoying seeing them every time. is there any way to resolve this? or can i tel revdep-rebuild not to check these files? echo /usr/lib64/vmware-tools/lib64 /etc/revdep-rebuild/90-vmware-tools Read the comments in /etc/revdep-rebuild/99revdep-rebuild -- Neil Bothwick If you use envelopes, why not encryption ? thanks. i amended to echo /usr/lib64/vmware-tools /etc/revdep-rebuild/90-vmware-tools coz, i found there too many libs in the /usr/lib64/vmware-tools directory that are reported broken. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware server 2 - login/password
Krzysztof Poc schrieb: Hello Is there any default gentoo password vor vmware server 2.0.1.156745-r3. I'm trying root/password and user/password an none of them works. PLEASE HELP ME :) You have to use a user which is member of the group vmware. Try gpasswd -a user vmware and then login with user/password. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server error log
You still need to post messages from further back - this is still the
results, not the cause. Also, does 1.0.0.15 support later kernels? - I
am using 1.0.0.25 and workstation 6.5 with 2.6.28 - and even there had
to use the layman vmware overlay. vmware usually lags behind current
kernels, and you usually have to jump through a few hoops to even keep
close to up to date.
BillK
On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 12:11 +, Nick Khamis wrote:
Hey Everyone,
I have been at this for a week now, going from amd64 to x86. I still
want to use 2.6.30-r5. When trying to build vmware-server this is the
error I am presented with:
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:
In function 'LinuxDriver_Open':
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:579:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'euid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:
In function '__LinuxDriver_Ioctl':
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1530:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'suid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1531:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'cap_permitted'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1796:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'euid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1796:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'uid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1797:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'fsuid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1797:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'uid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1798:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'egid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1798:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'gid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1799:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'fsgid'
/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1799:
error: 'struct task_struct' has no member named 'gid'
make[3]: ***
[/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o]
Error 1
make[2]: ***
[_module_/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/work/vmmon-only]
Error 2
make[1]: *** [sub-make] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.30-gentoo-r5'
make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2
[31;01m*[0m
[31;01m*[0m ERROR: app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 failed.
[31;01m*[0m Call stack:
[31;01m*[0m ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
[31;01m*[0m environment, line 3723: Called
linux-mod_src_compile
[31;01m*[0m environment, line 2841: Called die
[31;01m*[0m The specific snippet of code:
[31;01m*[0m eval emake HOSTCC=\$(tc-getBUILD_CC)\
CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}- LDFLAGS=
\$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)\ ${BUILD_FIXES}
${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} || die
Unable to emake HOSTCC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=$(get_abi_LDFLAGS) ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
${BUILD_TARGETS};
[31;01m*[0m The die message:
[31;01m*[0m Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build
VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1 KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux
KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build
[31;01m*[0m
[31;01m*[0m If you need support, post the topmost build error, and
the call stack if relevant.
[31;01m*[0m A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/build.log'.
[31;01m*[0m The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/environment'.
[31;01m*[0m
Your Help Is Greatly Apprecited,
Reagrds,
Ninus
--
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server error log
Hey William, Thanks again for your help I have attached the complete build log file. I know with the layman overlay vmware-server 2 is easily done but I woule rather vmware-server 1x. I know there are a few pathces for this I just want to make sure after shcking with you guys what I should do. Thanks In Advanced! Ninus vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2.ebuild Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server error log
Now for the real build log (oops) vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2.ebuild Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server error log
Arghhh to early in the morining here in Toronto. This is the build.log build.log Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware 1.0.9 emerge problem
Nick Khamis schrieb: * Checking for suitable kernel configuration options... * CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS: is not set when it should be. You have to recompile your kernel after setting the parameter CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS=y with make menuconfig in /usr/src/linux or genkernel --menuconfig --no-clean all ... It depends on your way of compiling your kernels. After rebooting into your rebuilt/reconfigured kernel you should be able to emerge vmware-server. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware 1.0.9 emerge problem
Hey Stefan, I figured that much, I am in .config - Linux Kernel v2.6.30-gentoo-r5 Configuration right now and I cannot find CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS. Where the hell is this things. Thanks In Advanced! Ninus
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware 1.0.9 emerge problem
Nick Khamis a écrit : Hey Stefan, I figured that much, I am in .config - Linux Kernel v2.6.30-gentoo-r5 Configuration right now and I cannot find CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS. Where the hell is this things. To search for a specific CONFIG_ in the kernel config, on make menuconfig, type '/' key to search for a key, then after typing UNUSED_SYMBOLS, you'll find it under Kernel hacking -- [ ] Enable unused/obsolete exported symbols. HTH. Thanks In Advanced! Ninus PS: please stop stripping the mails you answer in your... answers ! This breaks the conversation. Thanks. -- Xavier Parizet YaGB: http://gentooist.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware 1.0.9 emerge problem
Hello Everyone,
I moddified the CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS paramter and when trying to emerge
vmware-server I am presented with another error:
*
* ERROR: app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3723: Called linux-mod_src_compile
* environment, line 2841: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* eval emake HOSTCC=\$(tc-getBUILD_CC)\
CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=\$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)\ ${BUILD_FIXES}
${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} || die
Unable to emake HOSTCC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=$(get_abi_LDFLAGS) ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
${BUILD_TARGETS};
* The die message:
* Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1
KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/environment'.
*
Failed to emerge app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2, Log file:
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/build.log'
* Messages for package app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2:
*
* ERROR: app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3723: Called linux-mod_src_compile
* environment, line 2841: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* eval emake HOSTCC=\$(tc-getBUILD_CC)\
CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=\$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)\ ${BUILD_FIXES}
${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} || die
Unable to emake HOSTCC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=$(get_abi_LDFLAGS) ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
${BUILD_TARGETS};
* The die message:
* Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1
KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/environment'.
*
Thanks In Advanced,
Ninus
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware 1.0.9 emerge problem
Hello Everyone,
I moddified the CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS paramter and when trying to emerge
vmware-server I am presented with another error:
*
* ERROR: app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3723: Called linux-mod_src_compile
* environment, line 2841: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* eval emake HOSTCC=\$(tc-getBUILD_CC)\
CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=\$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)\ ${BUILD_FIXES}
${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} || die
Unable to emake HOSTCC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=$(get_abi_LDFLAGS) ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
${BUILD_TARGETS};
* The die message:
* Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1
KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/environment'.
*
Failed to emerge app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2, Log file:
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/build.log'
* Messages for package app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2:
*
* ERROR: app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3723: Called linux-mod_src_compile
* environment, line 2841: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* eval emake HOSTCC=\$(tc-getBUILD_CC)\
CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=\$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)\ ${BUILD_FIXES}
${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} || die
Unable to emake HOSTCC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=$(get_abi_LDFLAGS) ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
${BUILD_TARGETS};
* The die message:
* Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1
KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build
*
* If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
* A complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2/temp/environment'.
*
Thanks In Advanced,
Ninus
Re: [gentoo-user] Vmware 1.0.9 emerge problem
I emerged vmware-modules with no problem but still have a hard time with
vmare-server:
* ERROR: app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3723: Called linux-mod_src_compile
* environment, line 2841: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* eval emake HOSTCC=\$(tc-getBUILD_CC)\
CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=\$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)\ ${BUILD_FIXES}
${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} || die
Unable to emake HOSTCC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=$(get_abi_LDFLAGS) ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
${BUILD_TARGETS};
* The die message:
* Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1
KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build
Regards,
Ninus.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server error
i am using vmware-server 2.0, and it works fine. i think you should
use 2.0, too.
and i think you should post the log, instead of the error message, so
maybe some one can help you.
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Nick Khamissym...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Everyone,
I emerged vmware-modules with no problem but still have a hard time with
vmare-server:
* ERROR: app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 failed.
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 49: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3723: Called linux-mod_src_compile
* environment, line 2841: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* eval emake HOSTCC=\$(tc-getBUILD_CC)\
CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=\$(get_abi_LDFLAGS)\ ${BUILD_FIXES}
${BUILD_PARAMS} ${BUILD_TARGETS} || die
Unable to emake HOSTCC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) CROSS_COMPILE=${CHOST}-
LDFLAGS=$(get_abi_LDFLAGS) ${BUILD_FIXES} ${BUILD_PARAMS}
${BUILD_TARGETS};
* The die message:
* Unable to emake HOSTCC=i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- LDFLAGS= auto-build VMWARE_VER=VME_S1B1
KERNEL_DIR=/usr/src/linux KBUILD_OUTPUT=/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r5/build
Regards,
Ninus.
--
Best Regards,
David Shen
http://twitter.com/davidshen84
RE: [gentoo-user] vmware install error
Perfect Thank you. One more question. localhost vmware-modules # emerge app-emulation/vmware-modules Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.23 [1.0.0.15-r2] [blocks B ] =app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.16 (is blocking app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.8.126538) * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be * installed at the same time on the same system. For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant): http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked localhost vmware-modules # emerge app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.23 Calculating dependencies / !!! 'app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.23' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details. !!! (Did you specify a version but forget to prefix with '='?) localhost vmware-modules # I couldn't install vmware-modules in /usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules/Changelog it seems that 1.0.0.23 don't support kernel2.6.27. right? KIM -Original Message- From: Kan-I Jyo [mailto:cecilhs...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 4:47 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] vmware install error 2009/4/22 김무성 ki...@infosec.co.kr: My kernel version is 2.6.27-gentoo-r10 And I try to install VMware-server-1.0.9 Up-to-date gcc. When I install vmware-server, ./vmware-install.pl there is an error. This is error information -- /tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1781: error: too many arguments to function 'smp_call_function' make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon-only] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.27-gentoo-r10' make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon-only' Unable to build the vmmon module. For more information on how to troubleshoot module-related problems, please visit our Web site at http://www.vmware.com/download/modules/modules.html; and http://www.vmware.com/support/reference/linux/prebuilt_modules_linux.html;. Execution aborted. -- So I found solution searching in google. It’s tell me There is an patch. I got Vmware-any-any-patch through ftp. And execute patch, But same error What is a solution? Help me. If 1.0.9 is not a necessity, you may want to try vmware-server in portage(1.0.8) instead. $ sudo emerge -pv vmware-server [ebuild N] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 483 kB [ebuild N] app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.8.126538 104,611 kB As an addition, if you build kernel manually, turning CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS on beforehand or vmware-modules will refuse to compile. $ cd /usr/src/linux $ sudo make menuconifg (Kernel hacking) -- (Enable unused/obsolete exported symbols) -- (y) $ sudo make make modules_install Boot the machine with new kernel and issue the above 'emerge' command should bring you a working vmware-server. -- Sincerely, Jyo
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware install error
2009/4/23 김무성 ki...@infosec.co.kr: in /usr/portage/app-emulation/vmware-modules/Changelog it seems that 1.0.0.23 don't support kernel2.6.27. right? 1.0.0.23 does support kernel 2.6.27, according to the change log. In your case, as you can see from the 'emerge' output, it is the vmware-server package to block vmware-modules 1.0.0.15. In other words, if you want to install vmware-server, stay with vmware-modules-1.0.0.15 might be the only option. -- Sincerely, Jyo
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware install error
2009/4/22 김무성 ki...@infosec.co.kr: My kernel version is 2.6.27-gentoo-r10 And I try to install VMware-server-1.0.9 Up-to-date gcc. When I install vmware-server, ./vmware-install.pl there is an error. This is error information -- /tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1781: error: too many arguments to function 'smp_call_function' make[2]: *** [/tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon-only] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.6.27-gentoo-r10' make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config3/vmmon-only' Unable to build the vmmon module. For more information on how to troubleshoot module-related problems, please visit our Web site at http://www.vmware.com/download/modules/modules.html; and http://www.vmware.com/support/reference/linux/prebuilt_modules_linux.html;. Execution aborted. -- So I found solution searching in google. It’s tell me There is an patch. I got Vmware-any-any-patch through ftp. And execute patch, But same error What is a solution? Help me. If 1.0.9 is not a necessity, you may want to try vmware-server in portage(1.0.8) instead. $ sudo emerge -pv vmware-server [ebuild N] app-emulation/vmware-modules-1.0.0.15-r2 483 kB [ebuild N] app-emulation/vmware-server-1.0.8.126538 104,611 kB As an addition, if you build kernel manually, turning CONFIG_UNUSED_SYMBOLS on beforehand or vmware-modules will refuse to compile. $ cd /usr/src/linux $ sudo make menuconifg (Kernel hacking) -- (Enable unused/obsolete exported symbols) -- (y) $ sudo make make modules_install Boot the machine with new kernel and issue the above 'emerge' command should bring you a working vmware-server. -- Sincerely, Jyo
RE: [gentoo-user] vmware overlay, server v2 no console
I've upgraded to vmware server v2 and it seems to be working, ie i cant start my suspended guest OSes, but from the web GUI i cant get the console to popup after loading the firefox plugin. When i click the area that says click anywhere to open the console nothing happens. I've not used v2 before - am i doing something stupid? Try clean browser profile. Do you mean rm -fr .mozilla or Clean private data (including cache)?
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware overlay, server v2 no console
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Adam Carter adam.car...@optus.com.auwrote: I've upgraded to vmware server v2 and it seems to be working, ie i cant start my suspended guest OSes, but from the web GUI i cant get the console to popup after loading the firefox plugin. When i click the area that says click anywhere to open the console nothing happens. I've not used v2 before - am i doing something stupid? Try clean browser profile. -- Vladimir Rusinov http://greenmice.info/
