Re: Video of meetings
On 07/26/2011 01:38 AM, Ben Scott wrote: if anyone wants, I'd be happy to record a meeting. Doing it well enough for anybody to want to watch is tricky. At least expect to need a camera-man and a decent zoom lens. A wireless lavaliere mic is needed for good sound. But then if there's any essential A/V content, that's really hard to capture. We've brainstormed about doing something with a VNC recorder and somehow mux-ing that with the presenter video stream. I think the Google Tech Talks probably use non-cheap gear. I did some audio recordings of DLSLUG talks, spent the requisite 3x time to edit them, and got only couple nibbles on the downloads. But audio-only of a talk with an interactive shell demo is lame. -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner BFC Computing, LLC http://bfccomputing.com/ Telephone: +1.855.SW.LIBRE Email, IM, VOIP: b...@bfccomputing.com VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf Social networks: bill_mcgonigle/bill.mcgonigle ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: nhlug.org domain
On 04/12/2011 03:27 PM, Benjamin Scott wrote: The domain appears to be delegated to Bill McG's servers. This is prolly leftover from when the server spent a month dead a couple years back. If we do keep the domain, we should change the delegation at the registrar to point to liberty.gnhlug.org and the DynDNS slaves. Cole took that one off my hands for me a while back when funds were tight. Thanks again, Cole. Since it was first registered I was just doing an apache redirect, but it makes good sense to handle that on liberty. -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner BFC Computing, LLC http://bfccomputing.com/ Telephone: +1.603.448.4440 Email, IM, VOIP: b...@bfccomputing.com VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf Social networks: bill_mcgonigle/bill.mcgonigle ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
[Fwd: First General letter to All Leaders Affiliated to Boston User Groups]
Anybody else get this? -Bill Original Message Subject:First General letter to All Leaders Affiliated to Boston User Groups Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:26:43 GMT From: Ronald Thibeau ronald.thib...@bostonusergroups.org To: lead...@bostonusergroups.org Hello User Group Leaders, Boston User Groups called BUG, an umbrella organization, is focused on organizing and sustaining any digital technology User Group, through advice and services some of which can be on site. BUG management is composed of volunteers from the “leaders’ list”. We volunteer time as we are able. We are ordinary people with a heart for service. We can always use more help. We provide a web site http://www.bostonusergroups.org http://www.bostonusergroups.org/ . We have On Line for about six months. The site will always be a work in progress. User Group meetings, special events etc, are posted on the calendar. In due time, each leader who wishes to do so, can maintain his information. Posting commercials or head hunter advertisement etc. that is NOT user group activity will not be allowed on the site. One service that all listed leaders can use right now is the ‘’leaders’ list’’ service. If you have an event that you want to tell the world about, then prepare a good looking advertisement that is accurate and send it out to lead...@bostonusergroups.org mailto:lead...@bostonusergroups.org . If you want the same advertisement to post on the BUG calendar, send your data to john.r...@bostonusergroups.org mailto:john.r...@bostonusergroups.org for posting. Note: if any leader wishes to post a question to solve a User Group Issue, please be free to post your question. As we use the leaders’ list service for each other, it is hopeful that we benefit by educating many more end users in technology and best practices and to promote competence in our trade.* SO*, everyone should now be looking for and expect this ‘leaders’ list’ channel to flow timely and accurate User Group special events. All other information can be found on the BUG site. If you don’t see it or it’s wrong, then write john.r...@bostonusergroups.org mailto:john.r...@bostonusergroups.org to get it corrected. We are interested in filling a few spots on the BUG board of directors. Some have an elected office and some contribute on special projects. So, any person wishing to serve a technical community can write me directly ronald.thib...@bostonusergroups.org mailto:ronald.thib...@bostonusergroups.org. We have face to face meetings on occasion based on complexity or importance. We frequently telephone conference to save travel time and money for each other. We call meetings based on necessity. Operational issues are usually handled by e-mail. We have e-mail traffic going all the time. If you know of other digital technology user group leaders, please pass on our introductory statement of purpose. More statements on our general activity and more services provided to follow in the weeks ahead. Please avail yourself of our service and get the word out on your activities. Come see what is going on at the BUG community. http://www.bostonusergroups.org http://www.bostonusergroups.org/ . Yours in service Ronald Thibeau -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 b...@bfccomputing.com Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
possible remote meeting platform
Anybody use this?: http://www.dimdim.com/opensource/dimdim_open_source_community_edition.html -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 b...@bfccomputing.com Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: gnhlug-jobs mailing list moderation
On Sep 11, 2008, at 21:12, Bruce Dawson wrote: Without a lot of AI, I think it would be more effective to just review each message. Would it be reasonable to give messages a pass based on a filter, and require moderation if they fail that pass? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: fyi, freegeek is an interesting casestudy to compare what gnhlug does
On Jul 23, 2008, at 23:45, Greg Rundlett wrote: Free Geek is a Portland, OR group which operates a thrift store, offers training / education plus support, does builds, is volunteer-based and recycles old equipment There's a group in the other, closer Portland that does something similar, and is building out a wireless mesh with old gear. Of course, you'd probably expect me to remember their name... I will dig it up if anybody wants me to. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: SIG requirements (was: Board meeting...)
On Jul 14, 2008, at 16:36, Ted Roche wrote: Well, that's exactly what we're hoping to achieve, some simple guidance for SIGs that say that your structure can be part of GNHLUG if you follow the same strictures of being a non-profit educational charity in the sense of 501(c)(3) as GNHLUG is expected to be, and understand that the board or its designees can take on financial obligations on the part of GNHLUG. That might be it, right there. Actually that's what I was suggesting might want to be avoided. :) It might be a useful thought experiment to think about what if GNHLUG wanted to do an event with SwANH? We wouldn't make SwANH conform to any IRS strictures to co-sponsor an event. But I suspect that event could still happen. Could we do a GNHLUG/Redhat event? Sure - and they're on the NASDAQ. Same for Ubuntu LoCo - they perhaps already have their rules. But GNHLUG can work with them, no problem to be co-sponsors on events, even recurring ones. Sounds like you ought to come down to Manchester and offer to help us with this :) I would if I didn't have a 'last Thursday' meeting that night... Seriously, short of a group desiring to take on a major project, all of this is make-work and much ado about nothing. However, when that opportunity comes along, it will be too late to start the process. So, we are trying to lay the groundwork now, and minimize the hassles to everyone involved. Right, I understand why GNHLUG wants to exist as a legal entity. And I suspect that if a SIG wanted to become assimilated by the GNHLUG at any time this could be done in very short order. However, with legal entities come legal entanglements, so my thought was to keep the degree of such entanglements as small as possible. So, the structure is there, ready to use as needed, but it doesn't pervade all daily activities that would otherwise proceed differently if not for such entanglements. Think about the potential downsides. If PySIG (I'm picking on PySIG again) has a meeting and it's part of GNHLUG and Alex goes nuts and trashes the ABI, then the GNHLUG BoD is legally responsible. If RubySIG decides to pass the hat at the brewpub and buy everybody beers then GNHLUG has to worry about the accounting on that. But if the RubySIG Event is merely co-branded with GNHLUG then this isn't a problem, it's not a GNHLUG event. Does Martha's give free rooms to corporations or just guys who buy beer and talk about strange stuff? There are certainly advantages to having GNHLUG be a State-created entity, but there are potential gotchas as well. My only point is that such gotchas should be kept as small and contained as possible, and that we should have something positive to say for, what do we gain by doing X? if we're thinking about doing X. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Board meeting July 31st?
On Jul 10, 2008, at 19:52, Arc Riley wrote: I'm not a board member, but this seems like a more prudent agenda item. Not saying I wouldn't like to see the Ubuntu SIG discussed, but I can see the fear of there being a rush to form new SIGs be a barrier for it. A brief history of PySIG (with much paraphrasing): Lloyd asked me if we ought to do python discussions on the DLSLUG list. He had started a Meetup already. I said, hey, why don't we do a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list and maybe start a Python SIG. After we had that running for a few weeks I announced it to GNHLUG- discuss. Bill Sconce joined and said, howdy. A few months later Bill said, I think we should meetspace. And more than three years later PySIG is a vibrant SIG of GNHLUG. I believe the Ruby SIG is doing similarly well, though I haven't made it to that timezone yet. So, which problem are we solving by imposing a regulatory structure on SIG's? Empirically the organic model has proven to be successful. So, let's fix that? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: USENIX Tech '08 Boston?
Adding Bill Ricker back to the cc list, as he originally raised this issue. Be careful not to confuse 'willing to read a PDF' with 'willing to spearhead an effort'. :) IMHO, the only value we could offer is, hey did you know there's a local LUG available, for the other 51 weeks of the year? so it might be wise to add BLU, VAGUE, WLUG, MELUG, and RILUG to any printed materials generated. That said, it might be possible to raise $1000 from the memberships of those groups via fundable.org, if it were considered of sufficient merit. I'd rather chip in $10 than spend $40 on bus fare and a day sitting at a booth... :) -Bill On Jun 2, 2008, at 17:08, Ted Roche wrote: Bill McGonigle wrote: On Jun 2, 2008, at 09:03, Bill Ricker wrote: Are the LUGs/LoCo doing anything around USENIX Boston this month? FYI, I just checked on the corporate rates and they are: 6' display table: $3000 tote bag insert (1 page): $1,000 Advertising in the Conference On-site Guide full page ad: $1,000; half page ad: $600 Yeah, not a cheap way to attend the conference. Would anybody like to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see if they have a local-nonprofit-package? I think we have some pretty good contacts if you'd really like to offer to do something. Some of our affiliate members are, or were, USENIX veterans and could probably get us in touch with the folks who make the decisions (vice the ones who answer email aliases). What would you like to propose? This is the first I'd heard of the conference (not of USENIX, of course, just this event). If you'd like to act as point person to coordinate coverage for a booth, this is certainly something we could probably drum up some support for, get some handouts, loan out the banner, etc. But I'm not sure this is where I'd want to concentrate my efforts. It feels a bit like preaching to the choir. And I'm not sure a booth presence adds all that much value. This isn't a crowd likely to be amazed by TuxRacer or even Maya on Linux. The tote bag insert seems like a better use of time and effort, though certainly not money. I'd be glad to contribute a lovely DTP'd page for USENIX to include for the benefit of their members, but not at a cost. I think we're complementary to USENIX; I announce their events at DLSLUG for free. If they think we're competition, that could be interesting. In that case, I'll happily return their requests for announcements with our for-profit-user-group announcement rate schedule next time. ;) ;) Would be nice if someone paid, but... My experience in talking with some other local conferences is that they were covering their costs to have tables set up, electrified and rental expenses in quoting a price for booth space. This is how vendors help defray the costs of the conference. The idea of not- for-profit volunteer organizations adding to the value of their conference is an alien one to most event organizers I've spoke with. Some random hippies want to walk in off the street, take over a booth and preach Freedom isn't their typical customer. If there's a DotOrg Pavilion like Linux World, maybe, but if there are glittering booths from HP and IBM, Computer Associates and Oracle, a couple UG volunteers in a booth with a laptop looks a bit out of place. I'd suggest, if we're trying to calculate cost and effort vs. results, we'd be a lot better off finding out if any members are going and loading them up with handouts or biz cards to post in worthwhile locations, e.g., bulletin boards. - Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: I've run out of resources w/ the TeleMeetings project
On May 19, 2008, at 22:59, Arc Riley wrote: Why not use ekiga.net? What is ekiga.net? Apparently you have to subscribe to find out what it is? Curious. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: I've run out of resources w/ the TeleMeetings project
While not to diminish the value of this as a goal, I've recently upgraded my PBX to the latest Elastix (kickin' better than Trixbox, BTW) and there's a 'Conferences' thing I can turn on, should GNHLUG'ers want to use it until the 'real' project is done. I should be able to handle about a dozen connections before worrying about capacity. I'm pretty sure it can record the call. I'd want to find the best rate DID I can use for this before setting it loose. There's also a way to add the Elastix package set to an existing CentOS install. Provided the CentOS is fairly recent. ;) ;) ;) That might be a low-resistance way to get the real thing bootstrapped, though with a shared 1Mb line among all freeloaders at MV I'm not sure how well it'd perform. -Bill On May 19, 2008, at 22:13, Bruce Dawson wrote: As I've described in the TeleMeeting topic (http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Organizational/TeleMeetings), I've run out of time to work on this project and am looking for volunteers to take it over for at least the short term, and probably the long term. I apologize for any inconvenience to people and the group as a whole. It appears I spent too much time trying to debug phantom software glitches caused by hardware not designed for this application. (And various farm and work glitches added their impact too.) I can answer questions via email, if there are any. (I do have an older version of Asterisk that I can re-build for liberty if desired, but it would probably be best if whoever took over this project just built the latest version.) I think if you just go with ztdummy that you will avoid the PCI headaches I ran into. - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: SwaNH meeting postings
On Apr 18, 2008, at 09:07, Ted Roche wrote: In this case, I think the Venn diagram of what SwaNH covers and what GNHLUG is about doesn't intersect, so we can pass. But it is not an absolute rule; when they do have meetings more techie and of interest to our members, I encourage anyone hearing of them to post info. They keep their calendar well-hidden, but having been handed a flyer tonight I managed to find it online. On September 16th: 9/16/2008 SwANH Educational Event Location: SERESC, Bedford Time: 6:00 - 9:00 PM Topic: The Best Open Source and Low-Cost Tools for the Software Business A review of the top offerings from the Open Source and Low-Cost community for the software business. The session will profile offerings in various categories of interest to the software business, such as: * Source / Version Control * Bug Tracking * Documentation Help * Project Management / Team Collaboration * Knowledge Base / Automated Support * Automated Testing * CRM * CMS * Web Conferencing / Remote Support * User Forum / Community * Office Productivity Tools (alternatives to MS Office) * Workflow and Document Management * Phone System Voicemail In addition, experts and users of the tools profiled will discuss the pros and cons of using them compared with more traditionally priced tools, and what companies considering implementing these tools should do to make that choice successful. Such as: Data Ownership, Growth Path, etc. That sounds like something worthy of our calendar, if not some form of co-sponsorship. I wonder who's presenting. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: SwaNH meeting postings
On Apr 15, 2008, at 21:52, David Marston wrote: I think that selected SwANH announcements should be forwarded to -announce, but this one didn't qualify. That's a fair way of looking at it. I signed up for this event myself, on the chance that I'll learn one thing (worth more than $25). But just because we're both on this list doesn't mean we represent the list. I don't think there's a relevant list, but maybe there should be. Or, y'know, just post it on your blog, we all read that. :) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: 503(c) stuff
On Mar 14, 2008, at 10:07, Ben Scott wrote: I've also been in recent contact with Carole Soule, who has generously offered to help us out, either by guiding us through the 501(c)(3) process or by having LNF (http://www.learningnet.org) be the umbrella organization for GNHLUG. If it's not convenient or expedient for Carole to do it, SPI might be another option - they exist to provide this kind of service to FLOSS projects. http://www.spi-inc.org/about-spi/membership/guidelines.html PostgreSQL took this approach so they could handle donations, and now has enough money that they're spinning their own NPO out. I think this is the intended model from SPI and IRS perspectives. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Status of 503(c) stuff
On Mar 14, 2008, at 12:31, Ed lawson wrote: May sound like a long time, but not really, and it gives GNHLUG time to work on other things since its status or not as being tax exempt should not affect other decisions. Kudos for handling the contact, Ed. We've been talking about this for at least three years, so July is plenty soon. If we got this done in '08 that would be a major accomplishment. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Positive Feedback on Hosstraders/NEARFest/maddog
We had a new member at the DLSLUG meeting last night, and it was a fellow who first heard about Linux at Hosstraders, and apparently at NEARFest, 'a really interesting guy with a long beard' gave him an Ubuntu disk, and he was convinced. He was quite surprised that NEARFest isn't as interested in having us there as Hosstraders was and apparently knows one of the organizers and wants to talk to them about that. He feels Linux and HAM are at least compatriots and thinks it would be a tragedy if NEARFest lacked a Linux presence. One man's opinion, anyway. So, well done, and perhaps something might come of it. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: DLSLUG meeting 3 Jan 2008?
Got it on there, thanks. -Bill On Dec 27, 2007, at 10:54, Ben Scott wrote: Hi Bill! Happy Hanukwanzmas! Do you, by any chance, already have the next DLSLUG meeting (Thr 3 Jan 2008 on the normal schedule) planned out? I'm trying to get the Jan calendar filled in. Thanks, -- Ben - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Meeting procedure (was: Preliminary notes)
On Nov 6, 2007, at 09:14, Ben Scott wrote: Robert's Rules of Order is a book which documents a full system of parliamentary procedure. Note that it's not the only such book. RROR spells out quite a few things (including something like 12 different kinds of motions) which I believe would be overkill for us. On the other hand, I believe a total lack of formal procedure isn't good either. IIRC, RROR can run well into the 300 page mark, depending on typesetting. Most groups of which I'm a member use the short-short version (apologies to Mel Brooks), consisting of: calling the meeting to order old/new business, including: officer reports reading of minutes accepting the above using the motion/second/additional discussion/all those in favor method for discussion/resolutions moving to adjourn the meeting The primary benefit is that nobody feels they didn't have a chance to speak, and there's a clear log of accountability in the minutes. The process among friendly crowds feels pretty democratic. We did some of this at the Board meeting, and I think it worked out just fine. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Bank account
On Nov 1, 2007, at 21:19, Ben Scott wrote: On 11/1/07, Jon 'maddog' Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not ask about checks that needed two signatures. I have never used these in an organization. I rely on the treasurer ... That was my thinking as well, but the rest of the board seemed to think that two signature checks would be preferred, in the interests of being as tenable as possible. I don't disagree with that line of reasoning, either. Do we want two signatures on a check or two signers on an account? Just want to make sure the terminology is straight. Typically the setup is that the treasurer can't write himself a check (the president typically signs those, so has to be a signer on the account) and if the Treasurer does write himself a check for booze and fast times, he's going to be fired/clubbed/charged. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Bank account
On Nov 2, 2007, at 17:19, Ben Scott wrote: New new new new new (counts yah) plan: I will instead swing by Ocean Bank on my way to the museum tomorrow morning. Without trying to dampen your enthusiasm in any way, I'd just like to note that the pace of change in plans may be indicative of a lack of requirements. :) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Bank account
On 10/29/07, Bill McGonigle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SFCU They don't have much near Nashua, though. Google says it's 14.4 mi from Martha's Exchange to the Salem location. I think we need to define 'near'. Up here, 14.4 miles is called 'neighbor'. :) -Bill ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Bank account
On Oct 24, 2007, at 21:03, Ben Scott wrote: At this point, I'm questioning whether St. Mary's is a good choice. I haven't gotten the same answer to a question twice yet. Supposedly they have a good reputation, but I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling. Do we want to consider an alternate? http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Organizational/BankAccount FWIW, I did some searching on locations for Citizens, just because I happen to use them for a similar account (inherited), and updated the Wiki page (really slow to save?) with some info. MondadLUG does the worst of our existing LUG's - the closest is in Milford. I'm told their online banking is decent. Not sure if GNUCash supports their files. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Bank account
On Oct 19, 2007, at 12:19, Ben Scott wrote: * Interest bearing at 0.30% APY Typically a small non-profit wants an interest-free account. 0.30% ~= 0% + Interest and Dividends Tax filings... The bank should have an account that fits this bill - I've used Citizens for NPO's and they do. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: GNHLUG Board meeting, November 3rd?
On Oct 9, 2007, at 13:36, Ted Roche wrote: Any interest in doing this and if so, who's available November 3? I thought by now I'd know if I can make this or not, but I haven't heard yet if I'm doing an investors presentation then or not. But it's been a week since you've asked, so here's a definite 'maybe'... -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: SCOSUG Articles of Incorporation/Bylaws
On Oct 17, 2007, at 15:56, Shawn K. O'Shea wrote: This may or may not be useful, I suspect it will be. :) We incorporated and then attained 501c3 for SCOSUG back in 2001/2002. Can you talk about the 501(c)(3) process at all? Group: Have we ever asked the question how many US LUG's are already 501-designated? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Off-list conversations considered harmful
On Oct 9, 2007, at 10:34, Bruce Dawson wrote: I'm of the mind that, unless the sender explicitly states otherwise in the message, you should always reply to the list. This will enforce open governance of the group and keep ideas on the high-ground rather than letting them fall down the slippery slope of closed governance. That's a good idea. Perhaps we should establish a GroundRules wiki page for the -org list to codify these types of conventions? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: GNHLUG Internet presence (was: Raising membership and attendance)
On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:41, Ben Scott wrote: I *do* think a way to bridge the mailing lists with a web forum without balkanization or alienation of members would be *fantastic*. I envision something like Gmane [1], but on a local scale. Any volunteers to find and implement such? I recently saw some guys I know using Mail2Forum: http://mail2forum.com/wiki/Main_Page It seems to work. I'm not sure if it has value or not. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Attendance not Re: Better Marketing
On Sep 26, 2007, at 21:57, Ted Roche wrote: Advertising, which is closer to asking for the sale, is nearer what I'm suggestion. I concur with your correction of my correction of your correction, and apologize for my sloppy terminology. :) What I meant was that I saw some progress on the thought patterns. How do we increase membership is broad. How do we do better advertising is specific - I like it. I'm due to send out an announcement today for next week's DLSLUG meeting, as soon as the speaker confirms. I already missed the deadline for one paper, but will make the other (the papers' Events Calendars are free 'classifieds'). In this case I had Wind River cancel on me 1 week out, so I shall minimize the self-flagellation, but in general, being prepared in advance helps to maximize advertising-on-a-shoestring efforts. Automation would also help me but I'm not there yet. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Raising membership and attendance
On Sep 26, 2007, at 07:36, Jim Kuzdrall wrote: I sense that there is an aversion to considering unpleasant possibilities. What if the day of Linux as a social movement is on the wane? Is it best to avoid the thought? Wouldn't it be better to stack up reasoning for and against the hypothesis to see if it is really true. Well, it's true and then it's not for the same reasons. For example: The current version of Motorola's Razr phone runs linux. Are the kids in the mall streaming out of the Verizon store after paying too much for a poorly made phone Linux users? Well, sure, but they want to make phone calls, and they don't need us for that. Some of them might want to load Chris's mapping software on the phone, though, and then we've got a potential GNHLUG'er. Now even fewer will want to build a cell phone based on Linux. And they might work for Motorola, say. These are guys who can't not know everything about their corner of linux, and I'm sure young'ins are going to be in those jobs, not just guys who've installed ygdrisil from 360K floppy. They're potential GNHLUG'ers. The best part is none of it is closed-ended. I've done the floppy install, but now that I'm building a linux-based hardware platform from scratch, I need to pull in everything I've learned in those dozen-plus years, and I'm still sucking a wind in some areas. The problem domain is nearly infinite, so there's not much chance of the interest getting stale. GNHLUG could fall on stale times, but fortunately, we've got guys like Ted trying to push the cat herd forward. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Better Marketing (was: Re: Raising attendance [was: membership and...])
Just an observation that the question has moved from how do we do get more members? to how do we do better marketing? That looks like progress to me. If I may posit a non-prejudiced thought-experiment: A bunch of marketing folks sit down in a room to come up with some kernel improvements OK, I'll shut up now. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Other 501c3s?
On Aug 25, 2007, at 08:44, Ted Roche wrote:
Bill: What's the workload like to maintain the IRS paperwork?
We have a bookkeeper, but as we don't earn enough extra money to put
us over the magic threshold ('extra' gets plowed into the scholarship
fund), I understand her paperwork load is very light on this.
-Bill
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Re: Legal entity types
On Aug 26, 2007, at 04:20, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: If you wanted to apply for a 3, fine, but USENIX's lawyer was saying it was harder to get, The (3) is harder to get, as you really have to prove that you really do have a charitable/educational/etc. mission, as compared with a (6) which doesn't have too much to prove. Also, the requirement for the (3) to be shepherded along by another (3) for a while isn't the path to immediate gratification. Note that I've never been to a USENIX event, but from what I've seen they basically organize several pay-for conferences and have some sort of 'membership benefits' for joining up. I think that's a pretty stark contrast to what we do, where just about everything is free and almost exclusively educational, and the membership benefits are limited to community spirit and friends (things the government wouldn't put any value on...). I'm sure the USENIX lawyer is right, I'm just not sure that we look much like USENIX, save the *nix. and seeing that we have a lot of strong-willed people in our group who might want to have the group actively lobby for things, I suggested going the route of the 6. Likely a majority of the group would have to actually agree on something for this to happen. Good luck with that! :) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Other 501c3s?
On Aug 25, 2007, at 09:57, Ted Roche wrote: I'll be interested in learning more about the benefits and implications of GNHLUG being taken under the wing of Learning Networks Foundation or UVCIA. As I understand it a new 501(c)(3) effectively doesn't have the choice of striking out on its own without doing the above first. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Other 501c3s?
On Aug 26, 2007, at 23:01, Ben Scott wrote: Are you sure? The web page says 501(c)(6): Well, that's a good question. I asked specifically at the last board meeting about 3 vs 6 - either the webpage is incorrect or we have some confused governance. I'll clarify on Wednesday. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Other 501c3s?
The UVCIA is a 501(c)(3) as well - if GNHLUG wants to go the charitable route I could talk to the UVCIA board (I'm a board member) about taking GNHLUG under its wing (pretty much a requirement for new 501(c)(3)'s). I'll just say that I think we (UVCIA) wouldn't get nearly as many donations if not for the beneficial tax status a charity carries. The primary differentiator between the two groups would be that UVCIA also sponsors a scholarship fund. There are many similarities otherwise. -Bill On Aug 23, 2007, at 17:19, Ted Roche wrote: I note that the Python Software Foundation is a 501c3. They have some interesting copies of their public records available for instpection on their website. http://www.python.org/psf/records/ And the FSF is too. - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: NEARFest - request for participation study/discussion
On Aug 15, 2007, at 10:52, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: The question I have is whether GNHLUG should be supporting this event, or put the time and energy into some other event that would have a greater payback? For example, a booth/table at a state or local fair? Or find some local PC show to have a table? Or better support of Software Freedom Day? Help organize a summer camp for Free Software? My sense is that this is the proper approach, though I don't know if we can afford or handle the biggest events. The Hopkinton State Fair website claims 125,000 visitors per day, and doesn't publish the cost of their booth space, but I imagine it's way more than $50. If we were a charitable organization perhaps a group like that could cut a deal and write it off. I had fun the last time I got to Hosstraders, though I'm not sure I convinced anybody to use free software. I also imagine the State Fair would be less forgiving about a 329' ethernet cable taped along the buildings or antennas strapped to trees. We'd have to upgrade to WiMax. :) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: New date for BBQ?
On Jul 12, 2007, at 17:19, Ben Scott wrote: No kidding. It's going to be lonely with just you, me, Bruce, and the one or two other people who signed up. I've heard from other people who haven't signed up yet who thought they were coming. Do we need to put a 'last day to sign up' message out? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: [GNHLUG] Summer BBQ - Sunday 1 July - Loudon - All invited!
On Jun 21, 2007, at 08:45, Ted Roche wrote: Bruce, does a race at NHIS pretty much cut off access to and from the farm? IIRC, Route 106 is pretty much unusable the day of a race. I've been stuck in it by not checking the Nascar forecast beforehand. That was when a race let out, though - I'm not sure how the roads are during the race. Perhaps the 15th would be a better date (no need to worry about excluding Long-weekenders on the 8th). -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
[not] dealing with challenge/response agents
Just reaching out for others' thoughts on members using challenge- responses systems. I've been getting some mailman bounces on my lists from members who have implemented some sort of whitelisting system. Not the kind where they do any work, but the kind where you have to do extra work to send them a message. These systems apparently don't account for mailing lists, and they want somebody called mailman-bounces to complete their challenge system. Now, I know how to hack my way through this, how to make a mail look like it's coming from mailman-bounces, etc. But, to do it once or twice is annoying, if it gets more popular it would just be unmanageable. So I file this into the unscalable behavior category and am inclined to just 'nomail' the e-mail address to stop the bounce chatter. Of course, then I'd like to notify the member of that, but to do that I have to complete a challenge! Sorry, but no. So my thought is to send out a -announce message explaining how it'll be handled, put it on the list info page, and let people figure out on their own that these kinds of systems aren't the right idea. Thoughts/ideas/criticisms? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.667.4000 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Free Beer! And Organizational Meeting, May 31st, Martha's Exchange? Availability, please
On May 25, 2007, at 15:41, Ted Roche wrote: I have a homework assignment for all attending next week's meeting: finding a quiet place where we might be able to have future meetings. I have a couple nice conference rooms here in the incubator I can always sign up for. Alex might be able to get us one at the ABI. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.667.4000 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: MerriLUG email frequency
On Apr 12, 2007, at 00:18, Ben Scott wrote: It should be pretty easy to have an add-on look at that and say, H, Event Q just ticked over to less than 30 days away, and it still hasn't been turned into an exception. Email the coordinator with a nag-note. Just a Simple Matter of Programming, right? Yeah, I like that angle for the calendar half of it. The other half of it is integrating with a mailing list program (mailman being the obvious candidate) such that users can RSVP to stop getting reminders if they want, give a head-count for the hall/restaurant, etc. The third half is for LUG rustlers to use it for keeping track of speakers, their bios, attendance, event slides, etc. As much of it being self-service as possible (speakers can upload their own slides, etc.) is a nice goal for offloading grunt-work from overpaid chairs. There's a certain point at which you're putting more into glue code than doing a re-implementation, no matter how much you *hate* writing your own code when somebody else has done a perfectly good job (only it's inextricably trapped inside another framework). I don't have a good idea yet as to where that point is. Well, I do in that I started on a from-scratch project, but I haven't had enough cycles to actually get it done (a juxtaposition in argument for both sides). -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: How often do you want to get nagged?
On Apr 12, 2007, at 00:12, Ben Scott wrote: Can you make copies of any of those notes and post them here? :) Sure, here they are: a) with other schedules fewer people showed up* b) with this schedule more people showed up* I've actually had people say to me, yeah, I saw the meeting in the paper, so I figured I should come to this one. The inference would be that this is an important meeting if it's in the paper. Even though they all are (excepting when I forget to cc: the local papers). Anyway, there are several wetware issues in the equation. *the sample size is statistically too small to draw any meaningful inferences -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: How often do you want to get nagged?
On Apr 11, 2007, at 14:44, Ted Roche wrote: I don't want to lose a single person off the -announce list because we're being too noisy. I'm willing to make that trade-off at certain levels, say we lose 1 person but attendance doubles. When I do get unsubscribes it's almost always right after an announcement. Of course, that's possibly a reminder to unsubscribe. I try to pay attention to the ratio of subscribes and unsubscribes and to the degree that it's 1. Anything short of a custom schedule for each subscriber is going to annoy *somebody*. Maybe that's an argument for using a different technology, I'm not sure. Nobody is forced to subscribe to - announce, of course, if they prefer to check the Wiki or get an iCal feed from Google. The schedule I use for DLSLUG is tuned to our local newspaper, feedback from members, trying to minimize annoyance, and mental notes about 'what worked'. I expect other groups will have different requirements and wouldn't expect or feel a need for homogeneity across them. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: How often do you want to get nagged?
Oh, I forgot to include my personal annoyance - that -announce is gated to -discuss. That doubles the spam level if you chose to look at it that way. I guess I should just unsubscribe from -announce to stop that. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: MythTV InstallFest Low-End System Installation Experiment: Results
On Apr 6, 2007, at 15:51, Ben Scott wrote: Maybe we'll be able to get around to that person, eventually. I actually hope we do. But for the event on 31 March, that person was explicitly -- in big bold capital letters -- told not to come. It might be interesting for people with interest in this topic to do a SIG on MythTV on low-end hardware, probably based on gentoo, and come up with a push-button system that could eventually be turned loose on the masses, once it's all figured out. But I think the saying, Premature optimization is the root of all evil, is as true today as it ever was, and requiring Over-Engineered hardware with crumple zones and a bloated OS, to bootstrap the process, is a fine thing. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: MythTV InstallFest 31 Mar postmortem
On Apr 3, 2007, at 21:22, Ben Scott wrote: I also think we should revisit the idea of using one of the canned MythTV distributions, like KnoppMyth or MythDora. Just following along here, reading the notes and Jarod's work with MythDora - I'll offer a general 'I concur'. Consider there are two classes of people to benefit from a MythTV install fest. One type just needs a hand with MythTV and can admin a linux system. Another type can't but wants a kick-ass DVR. The first class of people I think we can help today. When FC6 goes off the supported list in 13 months they need to figure out on their own how to upgrade to something secure. The second class of people I'm not sure if we're helping or hurting long-term by setting them up with a system they can't support. As long as it's clear to them what to expect they can make this decision for themselves. But when we have a custom Fedora 7 spin, be it MythDora or something else, and that can run as a LiveCD and just store the data on the hard drive (conf files, mysql db shows), preferably mounted data=journal (and maybe without the write cache if it's fast enough), we can really do something good for everybody. My assumption is the Fedora 8 version of that knows how to upgrade any files already on the HD and upgrading is a matter of dropping in a new disc and rebooting. That's when I set one up for my parents. I'm really psyched Jarod is working with those guys, headed (inevitably, I think) in this direction. This is exciting because all the required technology is just becoming ready to do this as we watch. Also, a big hand for Ben maddog for all the work they've put into the process to date. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Transfer of ownership of server liberty to GNHLUG
On Mar 26, 2007, at 12:26, Ben Scott wrote: If so, does that mean I can transfer ownership of liberty (our Internet server) from myself to GNHLUG? If so, can we start that process in motion? So how to we get Ben off the hotseat? Do we buy it from him for $1? Does he make a donation? Who signed for the MV colo? -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: MythFest #2 sign-up form - Need final input
On Mar 14, 2007, at 17:57, Ted Roche wrote: NOTE: There are several reports of boxes labeled PVR-150 actually containing a different card, the HVR-1600, which is NOT supported by MythTV nor this installfest. As we have no way to tell what's in the box, we do NOT recommend purchasing a PVR-150 at this time. If you have a real PVR-150, we'll be glad to help you get it working at the installfest. Is the card silk-screened PVR-150 or is it labeled correctly, just in the wrong box? That would be the difference between having no chance and requiring a tech-check before mail order shipping or attempting to buy 'locally'. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: MythTV installfest notes, 3-March-2007
On Mar 5, 2007, at 08:47, Ted Roche wrote: 6. Question on the costs of a 'standard' box: ~ $600 for SDTV, ~ $1200 for HDTV box. While we don't want to be locked into a vendor, inviting some local suppliers who might be able to offer pre- installed boxes? One attendee thought there might be a business in offering these pre-installed and configured. Or parts too. Especially stuff they already stock - hard drives (what, I have data on this drive!), tuner cards, cables, etc. I once looked at what a 'MythTV Box' business would take and the big fist of the patent system loomed large. See also: Reply TV. Being small and DYI has its advantages. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 New Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Draft MythTV proposal and results of meeting with NHTI faculty and staff - March 3rd target for pilot
On Feb 9, 2007, at 11:43, Jarod Wilson wrote: Works for me. I need to get busy on that Fedora MythTV live CD, complete with 'install to HD' option... :) The spin-your-own-live-cd stuff in Fedora 7 is going to do some great things in all segments. If I were granted a wish, I'd suggest the right kind of LiveCD for my parents MythTV (which exists in the same world as wishes, currently) would run live from the cd and, not install itself onto the hard drive, but keep all of its data there. It would do some hardware detection, and write that out to the hard drive so setup was a 1-time thing. The reason for this is next time a release is available I can send them a new disc and they can pop it in, a script upgrades anything that's necessary on the hard disk, and they're good to go. For them, maintaining a live hard-drive distro is just too much work (for me). I'd expect alot of (potential) InstallFest attendees would be in the same camp. Maybe this already exists and I'm just not aware of it. I realize this may be a Big Wish, but, hey, they exist in Myth- ology. I'll stop. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: MythTV install fest
On Jan 25, 2007, at 22:13, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: But let me talk to them and we will find out. Great. Thanks for taking on yet-another-project. :) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Possible help for shut-in novice?
On Jan 25, 2007, at 09:07, Ted Roche wrote: Ideas? This is the kind of work the Technology User Group in Portland does: http://techusergroup.org/ I heard their presentation at VAGUE in Montpelier last spring. We don't currently have an arm of GNHLUG that looks like that, though I think he who stands up to say, me will get thunderous applause from the rest of us. I asked them to shout over the river to SLUG - does anybody know if that happened? Definitely the kind of charitable non-profit work that GNHLUG and Linux/FLOSS are perfectly positioned to do. The three folks from TUG were young, energetic, idealistic, and dedicated (and drove an *awesome* Mystery Machine all the way the heck over from Portland), and they had a nice workshop/depot provided by their parent organization. Over here we have WinCycle which gets great donations but needs to pay rent with their profits so the prices are high, and they're not huge on open source. Labor I'm sure could come from College students, Boy Scouts, etc. Anyway, just throwing out ideas - it's nice somebody actually asked. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: MythTV install fest
On Jan 23, 2007, at 19:39, Bill Sconce wrote: I have a (technical) contact at Channel 9... One thing we didn't cover all that much at the MerriLUG meeting are the politics of those who wish that MythTV would not succeed. If Channel 9 (beyond the engineering contact) understood the wisdom of supporting our efforts here, it would be a nice grassroots way to have one of the allegedly aggrieved reaping benefits from support of this kind of project, though publicity, perhaps improved viewership, etc. I think this kind of problem can only be solved from the ground up, and this might be an opportunity in that direction. Having a real TV engineer on-hand might also be tremendously helpful for those of us still just learning what ATSC and QAM are. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: [Fwd: Re: NH Seacoast Ruby/Rails as a GNHLUG affiliate?]
This looks great and appropriate. It seems like a natural sibling to the PySIG group, though they'll need to fight for top-zealot bragging rights. Fostering the open source ecosystem is a goal I think we all share. I'm going to be useless on the server side. I couldn't ever get ruby working properly without FastCGI to get a Typo blog running. Granted that was on a Redhat 9 machine and almost a year ago, but the docs were really light and ruby seems to have major incompatible changes once or twice a year, not all of which make the docs right away. Hopefully somebody in the group is an expert and we can all learn something! Even better, if everything works withe the current package-managed version of the relevant parts. -Bill On Jan 10, 2007, at 10:32, David J Berube wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:15:01 -0500 From: Scott Garman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David J Berube [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Ted Roche [EMAIL PROTECTED], GNHLUG Organization gnhlug- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NH Seacoast Ruby/Rails as a GNHLUG affiliate? Hi folks, I really appreciate the support GNHLUG is offering to this new, fledgling Ruby group. If the consensus is that a wiki and mailing list could be hosted by GNHLUG, or David's web host, I will definitely bring these up as options at our meeting next Tuesday. I also have a colocated server in Nashua which has plenty of disk space and bandwidth. The issue regarding software platforms is probably going to come up, and it might be a bit of an problem, because ruby web apps have their own requirements that may be a bit of a hassle to set up (I'm guessing you're like me and prefer to keep your server lean in terms of installed tools for security reasons). I imagine mailman should be fine for mailing lists. Getting a subdomain of rubygroup.org sounds really appealing, and I think one person from the Boston group is planning to attend our meeting. Thanks, Scott PS - David or Ted, could you please forward this to gnhlug-org, since I'm not subscribed to it? -- Scott Garman sgarman at zenlinux dot com - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Nashua MythTV announcement revisted
On Jan 7, 2007, at 23:30, Jim Kuzdrall wrote: The first announcement will go out this week on regular schedule, but I will still need the text blessed. Since I have no access to TV and no inclination to get one just to record the silly stuff on it, the text I write must be checked for technical relevance and anachronisms. In general, I think it's safe to just send stuff out, for this group. If there are any errors we'll all jump on you about it. :) (Pile on Jim!) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: Is it announced or not announced, that is the question...
On Jan 8, 2007, at 12:55, Ted Roche wrote: Some times a coordinator can get ahead by a couple of months (that's what you're asking) and sometimes not. It's a good goal. True that. Usually a function of getting a volunteer, a subject of interest, a lack of good shows (or games) on TV, whether someone else can watch the kids, the weather, and just random chance. ;) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: RFC: Static landing pages for chapters
One benefit of dropping off the Earth for six weeks is you get to read old messages and send out hey, it looks like this never happened messages. %host www.pysig.org www.pysig.org has address 64.92.170.181 %host liberty.gnhlug.org liberty.gnhlug.org has address 199.125.75.42 -Bill On Oct 26, 2006, at 17:42, Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 05:30:27PM -0400, Ben Scott wrote: On 10/26/06, Python [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 12:56 -0400, Ted Roche wrote: CentraLUG.org is set to redirect to GNHLUG.org. PySIG.org has been overrun by spammers and the domain owner has offered to transfer the domain and hosting to us should we want it. re: PySIG.org, us could be me. Are you offering up hosting, or just care-taking of the domain registration? :) I'll continue to take care of domain registration, if people want me to. Although I haven't proved a very benevolant host up until this point, but I did just kill the wiki link so that at least I won't be granting any *more* spam google juice. I'm perfectly willing to pay the $10/yr, or to pass it over to someone else. Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt Web Developer ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/ - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf For fastest support contact, please follow: http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org/
Re: gnhlug.org domain name
On Aug 23, 2006, at 10:14, Cole Tuininga wrote: Since it sounds like Bruce doesn't feel like he's the best choice, how about Ben? (providing he doesn't mind me volunteering him *grin*) Seconded. All opposed? ... The ayes have it. If anybody's paranoid about putting snail-mail addresses or phone numbers in WHOIS you can use my business's: http://bfccomputing.com/contact.html (I traded my privacy fears for firearms a while ago) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
SPI Bylaws
before the membership for review and discussion before it is voted on by the board of directors. The charter shall also define the membership structure of the committee. Both contributing and non contributing members are eligible to serve on committees. Permanent Committees Permanent committees are in charge of issues that are vital to the basic functionality of the organization. Their charters shall not be revoked but may be modified by the board of directors if necessary. The permanent committees shall be as follows: * Membership Committee This committee is responsible for handling all membership related issues, including verifying the identity of new members and ensuring that the membership rules are being observed. * Administrative Committee This committee is responsible for maintaining the computers and other technical systems that Software In The Public Interest, Inc. is using and other technical resources. ARTICLE ELEVEN - DUES No dues are required and no dues are anticipated, but the Directors reserve the right to impose a membership dues and to set the amount at a later date if it is deemed necessary. ARTICLE TWELVE - AMENDMENTS These by-laws may be altered, amended, repealed or added to by an affirmative vote of not less than two-thirds of the members. Appendices containing organizational information shall not require a vote of the membership for modification. They may be modified by a 2/3 vote of the Board of Directors, unless otherwise stated therein. APPENDIX A - OFFICERS OF THE COMPANY This section shall contain the names and positions of the current officers. It shall be modified to contain the names of new officers of the organization when necessary, and shall not require a vote beyond the approval of the resolution appointing the officers. The officers of the organization shall be as follows: President: John Goerzen Vice President: Benjamin Mako Hill Secretary: David Graham Treasurer: Jimmy Kaplowitz - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: gnhlug.org domain name
On Aug 21, 2006, at 15:30, Ted Roche wrote: If you are willing to donate the registration, I have no objections. Anyone else? Sounds like the best thing to do until we have an organization, so nobody's out of pocket again. On Aug 21, 2006, at 16:20, Bruce Dawson wrote: I have no objections - Someone knows where Cole lives, and he can be gotten ahold of in an emergency? good points - and when we do have the org to renew the registration next time around presumably multiple humans will have access. Just another benefit. On Aug 21, 2006, at 16:53, Cole Tuininga wrote: I live in Farmington well that's enough to get most of the other information from the first page of Google results. :) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Incorporation under a different name
On Aug 14, 2006, at 17:58, Ben Scott wrote: I feel that incorporating GNHLUG without their consent would be something of a betrayal. At the same time, obtaining their consent would be an administrative nightmare. Devil's advocate: At this point they have no inalienable right to the use of GNHLUG or to call themselves GNHLUG as society recognizes such things (as encoded in our laws). If a nail salon in Berlin registers GNHLUG as its name tomorrow with the Secretary of State, that's it, game over. In the same way, The Weenies would be 'taking' the name from the same group of people by registering it as property of The Weenies. At that point it's no longer free but controlled by The Weenies, under protection of State force. But the idea is to have the good guys do it, to protect the mission as set forth to date. I like Ben's idea myself, since Linux is only one important aspect of Free Software, which I think is the bigger goal, but we should recognize that if we're ever to protect GNHLUG legally, we're probably not going to be able to do it with 100% approval. You only need 3/4 of the states to amend the US Constitution. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
More Normal Form
Here's a first pass at normalizing the MeetingIdeas and MeetingSpeakers page: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Organizational/ MeetingIdeasSpeakers per Maddog's observation at the Summit that we have lots of redundant data and repeated data scattered around the wiki. It could obviously use some further re-organizing, additional data, and then a validation pass, but this is the first step, and as a meeting organizer it already feels more useful (thanks, Maddog!) Voice your objections - barring any I'll mark the two source pages as deprecated and see about redirecting them here. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Summer Summit 2006 Notes
On Aug 14, 2006, at 11:44, Bill Sconce wrote: like Debian is the organization we all know and love and the legal entity is SPI. That distinction would/might defuse some of these concerns. We might also talk to the folks at SPI to see how they structure things. Legal code reuse, if you will. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Book donations
On Apr 6, 2006, at 15:57, Bruce Dawson wrote: I just got *a lot* of books donated by Tom Albright to GNHLUG. He just wants to get rid of them - I think they might be worth donating to a GNHLUG library. Didn't we discuss this before? Are there any ideas on how to handle this? I attempted a 'right of return' library, but nobody by I bit on that concept. So far the library at Lloyd's office is mostly from donations from publishers. I'm headed north from MA to home this evening - if you'd like to be rid of them I we can rendezvous in Concord and I'll bring them to Lloyd. We also got lots of generous donations from publishers at LinuxWorld yesterday. Ben was nearly trampled to death when O'Reilly announced everything was free. The Apress folks weren't giving away the shop but they gave us 10 books. Super-nice gal running that shop. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Linuxworld Booth #1035
On Mar 29, 2006, at 09:16, Ben Scott wrote: Something that likely *would* be very useful, though, we would be business cards, and lots of them. As in, hundreds. Does anyone have some already made up? Thinking out loud: I think there are some online places that will run off a couple thousand for ~$30 or so. We have some artwork on the wiki. How do folks feel about a paypal/donate button for stuff like this? It would seem easier to say, hey, we need X, who wants to chip in $5, on the -discuss list than it is to say, somebody need to cough up $30 to buy us business cards. We certainly have some very generous members but it's not fair to keep going back to the same small wells every time we need something. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Linuxworld Booth #1035
On Mar 29, 2006, at 10:03, Ben Scott wrote: Or I could buy some business card stock and run them off on the company laser printer. ;-) Thanks, Ben! But I also want to point out that time is generally the most expensive commodity around. Between the cost of administering the contributions and people having to contribute, the real cost get higher. Just food for thought. Fair point. But I feel it's worth pointing out you just volunteered to spend 2 hours and $10 getting business cards and running them off and cutting them instead of us spending $30. :) You must live in NH. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
LinuxWorld
The gal running User Group booths at LinuxWorld Expo has decided to send me a form to fill out for a space in their User Group area for GNHLUG (I explained to her DLSLUG vs GNHLUG but I got them anyway). It's only like 5 lines, so I'll fill it out and fax it in, but I want to make sure I'm not duplicating work someone else has already done. At this point it seems best to just roll with it so she doesn't leave us out, as turn around time from her isn't speedy. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Sybase on Linux (fwd)
On Feb 24, 2006, at 15:53, Heather Brodeur wrote: Did anyone respond to this? Is it something we should be interested in? I got a mail from Patrick last week and we've exchanged a couple e-mails. It sounds less like they have a team of readily deployed speakers than they'll try to twist somebody's arm into coming to a meeting if there's interest. But he said he could probably do it. Speaking of scheduling LUG meetings in the future - do we expect a Q2 Quarterly meeting? I have a vendor asking for May, I haven't scheduled April or June definitively. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
website logo
I uploaded a small version of the logo that could be put in place of the photograph of the Twiki robot, with a link to http://www.gnhlug.org for easy top-level navigation: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/pub/Organizational/ArtWork/penguin- oldman-state-icon.png Seems that most Twiki sites do this. It looks like the settings are here: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/TWiki/TWikiPreferences variables: WIKILOGOIMG, WIKILOGOURL, WIKILOGOALT. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Minutes from Oct. 23rd?
Could whoever took minutes for the Oct 23rd FallSummit post them on the Wiki? http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Organizational/MeetingMinutes Thanks, -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Minutes from Oct. 23rd?
On Jan 23, 2006, at 12:37, Heather Brodeur wrote: They were actually taken directly onto the Wiki (IIRC) and are available here http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/view/Organizational/ AutumnalSummit2005Notes Which I found in a link from the Fall Summit Agenda page. Thanks! I keep getting myself lost in the Wiki. Perhaps someone with more Wiki-fu than I can add a link so they can also be accessed from the Meeting Minutes page. Done. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Wiki user HyWeb (was: GNHLUG.Main - Automated ...)
On Dec 28, 2005, at 09:38, Ben Scott wrote: I note that a recent new poster to -discuss is one Zhao Peng. I'm woefully ignorant about non-English language, but that looks like a sterotypically Asian name to me. Perhaps the two events are related? (Wild speculation here.) Hey, you had a one in two billion shot. :) Actually Zhao is a DLSLUG member, a programmer for Dartmouth Medical School. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: The next big event?
On Dec 20, 2005, at 15:39, Heather Brodeur wrote: I think that we owe it to everyone to do our best to find another presenter with a strong appeal across a broad audience. This doesn't help us towards a solution, but hopefully it puts us all on the same page Ya, I'm on your page, Heather. The FSF is also in Cambridge. They might have some people willing to talk. And there are the guys using Linux to wire(less) Cambridge. Odds are pretty good if you throw something in Cambridge you'll hit an OSS geek. I expect we could pass the hat for a bus ticket if that's an issue. Maybe some of our friends in BLU could help. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: The next big event?
On Dec 19, 2005, at 21:25, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: Hmmm. Valid question. I dunno -- anyone else have any input? I've (well, okay, Heather's) got a speaker lined up for January for Nashua, but I don't want to step on the other chapters' toes... I've not scheduled a speaker for January anticipating the Quarterly Meeting. My meeting announcement is scheduled to go out on Thursday so I probably don't have time to line up a speaker in the next two days. So... I'd prefer if the meeting went off. In general terms I'd like to see a quarterly meeting firmed up by the 1st of the prior month - I understand this time is a special circumstance but it might be good to adopt a drop-dead date so chapter coordinators have time to arrange as necessary. Also, I think we'll miss some opportunities if we don't do an 'in association with' meeting, so I hope we can find a good speaker. $0.02, -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Page: 603.442.1833 Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: DLSLUG Library: new Right of Return model
On Dec 2, 2005, at 13:40, Ben Scott wrote: Could we make this work like ILL (Inter-Library Loan) does for real libraries? Scenario: Members volunteer to be local librarians. Maintain a central card catalog online for all of them. If a member in Nashua wants a book that's in Dartmouth, they let the Nashua librarian know. Nashua librarian arranges some exchanges. At next DLSLUG meeting, Dartmouth librarian gives book to someone who will be going to Concord meeting, too. At Concord meeting, courier gives book to someone going to next Nashua (or whatever) meeting. I like the idea, but I would make the contributions either explicitly available for ILL or not. I can see someone donating a book they can get when they need it with a 20 minute drive differently than if they have to wait a month or drive 2 hours to get it back if it's on ILL. For me that would be a difference of I'll probably never need this again vs. I'm not going to need this for a few months. Lloyd has talked about implementing such a card catalogue - I imagine another field or two would enable ILL. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Big Registration Spam on Wiki
On Nov 6, 2005, at 08:45, Bruce Dawson wrote: This incident appears to be anomalous in that there were so many in one night, but I just wanted to point out that if this becomes more frequent, then we might have to take more serious action. Do the registration requests expire over time? I'm just wondering if there's a way to integrate bounce detection into the queue - I think mailman does this. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Meeting to discuss incorporation
I was thinking about this problem and wound up here: http://mail.gnhlug.org/pipermail/gnhlug-announce/2005-October/ thread.html at which point I thought well, someone could monitor this page occasionally... RSS!. So a quick Google on mailman.RSS brings me here: http://taint.org/mmrss/ which has at least two approaches to doing it. I think I'll try the ugly one on the DLSLUG site and report back. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Meeting to discuss incorporation
Lloyd pointed out that some readers (including Firefox) don't respect
the MIME types and require certain DOS-style file extensions to
'recognize' RSS feeds (ick).
So, updated configuration, with a more Firefox-friendly (and now
somewhat redundant) URL:
@LISTS = (
{
rss_version = '0.91',
archive =
'http://dlslug.org/pipermail/dlslug-announce/%Y-%B/',
archive_style ='date',
description = 'DLSLUG-Announce',
num_visible = 10,
scrape_text = 1,
rss_output =
'/usr/local/apache/htdocs/dlslug.org/xml/rss/dlslug-announce/rss.xml'
}
);
Then I noticed that every Item title was prepended with
[DLSLUG-Announce] (because that's in the subject of each mail) which
was further redundant, so a patch to the script was in order (sent back
to the author):
-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8
-8-8-8-
--- mailman-archive-to-rss.txt 2004-10-10 17:18:08.0 -0400
+++ mailman-archive-to-rss-dlslug-announce.pl 2005-11-04
14:46:11.0 -0500
@@ -238,6 +238,15 @@
}
else {
$item_title = $post-{headline};
+
+ # if the list is prefixing every message with the list name
+ # we don't want it in each title since we already have a title
+ # in the RSS feed. We're assuming the description field is
+ # equal to the list name here.
+ if ($item_title =~ m/^\[$list-{description}\]/) {
+ $item_title =~ m/^\[$list-{description}\] (.*)/;
+ $item_title = $1;
+ }
}
$rss-add_item(
-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8
-8-8-8-
And he saw that it was good.
-Bill
-
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Re: Meeting to discuss incorporation
Sorry, I assumed (there I go again...) you were on -announce or -discuss. You should have gotten 6 announcements from me about the meeting with the agenda. Let's blame over-aggressive spam filters. Ted's speaking at 8:40 about the incorporation/bylaws. Discussion is to follow. We talked at the autumn summit about having a discussion rather than making a final decision here. Hope you can make it! -Bill On Nov 3, 2005, at 17:06, Jon maddog Hall wrote: A) Somehow I have become dis-engaged from the gnhlug-announce mailing list B) The meeting tonight is not a quarterly meeting, and was therefore not advertised to the whole gnhlug group C) Some glitch in my email system kept me from seeing the announcement. So now I will once again ask what I thought was a civilized question: Is there also going to be a discussion of the incorporation tonight, and if not, are there any current plans to hold this meeting? - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ For fastest support contact, please follow: http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Meeting to discuss incorporation
On Nov 3, 2005, at 17:28, Jon maddog Hall wrote: I seem to have dropped off the discuss list, and since the announce list was tied to that, I have been dropped from that too. I assume that the meeting will be in room L01 of Carlson Hall and be up there as soon as I can. One more wrinkle - we're in Carson 60 now. We got bumped. If you don't see this until you get there there will be signs on the old door anyhow. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ For fastest support contact, please follow: http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: ISTO
On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:43, Ted Roche wrote: It does sound very similar to what the Summits have been proposing as the purpose of GNHLUG (as opposed to the purpose of the chapter LUGs, who hold meetings and focus more locally): Right, sorry if I wasn't clear - ISTO is a model for us to look at for planning purposes, not a group we'd want to get involved with. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
ISTO
I came across this, ISTO - an offshoot of the IEEE which is either something like what we hope to be or we were hoping Linux International might be (at the AutumnalSummit2005): http://www.ieee-isto.org/faqs.html#5 The good news is we seem to have identified most of the potential issues during our stumbings through the woods. The bad news is this raises more questions for me than it answers. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: OpenDocument 'hearing' at MA Statehouse - Oct 31
On Oct 26, 2005, at 23:27, Bruce Dawson wrote: I just added BillMcGonigle to Main.PublicEditorsGroup, so if that was the problem, it should be fixed now. Ah, yes, in retrospect this was obviously the problem. But if the membership at large can't edit it's not useful for arranging carpools anyway... (I realize there's no good answer) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Purge mailman queues?
On Oct 25, 2005, at 07:53, Ed Lawson wrote: It takes a minimum of ten minutes a day to clear the spam. that may not sound like a lot, but it is a chore. I had the same problem with dlslug-discuss. 50 messages a day sometimes. Just the other day I set it to automatically discard messages that are from non-subscribers. (privacy options...sender filter IIRC) Yes, that means that subscribers who post from their 'other address' no longer receive the Nordstrom level of service but, on the other hand, I can get back to work. I'm very pleased with the subsequent lack of moderation requests. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: GNHLUG web site re-organization
One could argue that if you're doing a re-org you ought to have a plan. And if you have a plan you should probably write it down. And you would need to write it down in some language. Apache re-write happens to be a formal language for writing this kind of stuff down. And at the end you have something you can toss into conf.d that would prevent any bookmark breakage. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Mailing list configuration changes
I'm curious as to the benefit of holding messages from non-members for administrator approval. It just seems like extra work for our gracious moderators, but perhaps I'm missing something. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: GNHLUG web site re-organization
On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:51, Bruce Dawson wrote: Actually, it might make migration easier if we do this on the new server. The old site will continue to run, and then we simply flip DNS to the new server when we're ready. I agree, that would be easier, but it's not solving the Google/bookmarks problem. Should we chose to solve it. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Mailing list configuration changes
On Oct 25, 2005, at 13:17, Bruce Dawson wrote: Spam is turning email into a lossy communications medium. Sigh. Amen - I'm paying for 200MB per day of e-mail transfer, 14MB of which I can account for as legitimate traffic. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: -ownerRe: Change of mailing list policy
On Oct 25, 2005, at 16:41, mike ledoux wrote: A 'discard' all button in the admin interface would be useful, so I could go through and only have to change checkboxes for the messages to approve and then discard everything else in one click instead of 30+. Mailman doesn't seem to offer that feature, though. Most days, mailman makes me long for the simplicity that was managing lists under Majordomo... The version of Mailman I'm running has this at the top of the moderation interface. 'discard all marked defer' or something like that. You should see it when we (by that I mean Ben) get the new server up. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ For fastest support contact, please follow: http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Mailing to TWiki pages
On Oct 23, 2005, at 18:31, Bruce Dawson wrote: During today's summit, someone asked if we could mail to TWiki pages... Is this what you were looking for? (It provides for a form of authentication). Yes, with the 'Set up polling of the email spool directory' option. It would get loaded into an AwaitingCustomsInspector topic (or some more serious name). From there our volunteer army could move/categorize the messages. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: bylaws discussion / quarterly meeting
On Oct 18, 2005, at 15:25, Bruce Dawson wrote: Maybe we can ask you for some of the larger media outlets in certain areas, or you could bring it to a meeting, and we could peruse it and get contact info for each of the various chapters. Perhaps we can spend 15 minutes doing a Chinese Wall at the Woodchuck Summit - most of this information probably exists at public URL's if you know where to look for it. I suggest those URL's be thrown over the Chinese Wall, then into the Wiki. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ For fastest support contact, please follow: http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: New Internet server
Roughly: 1. Call for volunteers on -discuss 2. Start a distro war* 3. Setup a list on the new server about server maintenance - anybody who changes anything should post to this list the changes _and make sure they get a copy of the message they just posted_. (I don't think server maintenance logs belong on the group-level organization list) *This server ought to be a shining city on a hill for Linux Done Right. Technologies, apps, security, etc. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: GNHLUG *ONLINE*: Request for a bit of wisdom
On Oct 12, 2005, at 03:26, Jon maddog Hall wrote: No, I don't have to take ownership of the title 'power-mad despot'. I take offense that someone suggests such a concept, whether under the guise of Devil's Advocate or not. I guess we have different understandings of what Devil's Advocate means. The way I use it is, I don't believe this to be true but there's a chance somebody might possibly have this perspective. If you're saying there's no chance somebody might have that perspective then that's OK with me. If you're saying I shouldn't mention that somebody might possibly have that perspective then I'll have to start yelling, come see the violence inherent in the system! and refer back to Ben's transparency thesis. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/rss ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: TWiki Password challenge
Here's where the problem is (this is a request triggered by visiting www.gnhlug.org): %telnet wiki.gnhlug.org 80 Trying 199.125.75.9... Connected to wiki.gnhlug.org. Escape character is '^]'. GET /twiki2/bin/viewauth/Www/%25USERSTYLEURL%25 HTTP/1.1 Host: wiki.gnhlug.org HTTP/1.1 401 Authorization Required Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:15:23 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 mod_throttle/3.1.2 WWW-Authenticate: Basic realm=Enter your WikiName: (First name and last name, no space, no dots, capitalized, e.g. JohnSmith). Cancel to register if you do not have one. Connection: close Transfer-Encoding: chunked Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/rss For fastest support contact, please follow: http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: TWiki Password challenge
On Oct 11, 2005, at 13:14, Ben Scott wrote: Unfortunately, that doesn't tell us very much. The viewauth URL you are requesting is *supposed* to request authentication. As usual I was being too terse. When you get the default page, it includes: @import url(%USERLAYOUTURL%); @import url(%USERSTYLEURL%); And when the browser does that: -- %telnet wiki.gnhlug.org 80 Trying 199.125.75.9... Connected to wiki.gnhlug.org. Escape character is '^]'. GET /twiki2/bin/view/Www/%25USERLAYOUTURL%25 HTTP/1.1 Host: wiki.gnhlug.org HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:36:18 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b PHP/4.1.2 mod_perl/1.26 mod_throttle/3.1.2 location: http://wiki.gnhlug.org/twiki2/bin/viewauth/Www/%25USERLAYOUTURL%25 Connection: close Transfer-Encoding: chunked Content-Type: text/plain -- it gets redirected into /viewauth/ land. I suspect it shouldn't be doing that last redirect or the browser is misbehaving. Now, to make things more interesting, Mozilla isn't doing that import - it's asking for /twiki2/pub/TWiki/PatternSkin/layout.css is @import url(%USERLAYOUTURL%); some sort of CSS directive that's supposed to be client-side-evaluated instead of asked for by the browser? My CSS-fu is not strong there. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/rss For fastest support contact, please follow: http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: TWiki Password challenge
On Oct 11, 2005, at 16:32, Bruce Dawson wrote: I think I found (and fixed) the problem. Confirmed - FIXED. Thanks, Bruce. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/rss ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: TWiki Password challenge
On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:04, Bruce Dawson wrote: I'm not seeing this problem. Is anyone else? Either you just fixed it or the problem is complex. I got this in Safari, where I wouldn't have a cookie, as the authentication message: To view this page, you need to log in to area “Enter your WikiName: (First name and last name, no space, no dots, capitalized, e.g. JohnSmith). Cancel to register if you do not have one.” on wiki.gnhlug.org. So, then I just tried raw HTTP from the command line and it worked fine (no cookies). cue spooky music -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/rss ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: Hosstraders
On Oct 1, 2005, at 11:46, mike ledoux wrote: How about The Open CD? TheOpenCD 3.0 added to the list. You might see if Bill Sconce has any leftover from Software Freedom Day before burning from blanks. Fancy labels and such. They're not going to get better with age. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/rss ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: SwaNH Info eXchange: Software Tools of the Future: what would you say?
On Sep 23, 2005, at 07:00, Jon maddog Hall wrote: I would point out why software development under Open Source is better than closed source techniques: o peer review o rapid turnaround of development o large numbers of field testers Just to amplify where maddog's going - the future of writing software is writing as little software as possible. To use perl as an example, just about every algorithm you're likely to need to implement has been done already, is on CPAN, has been refactored three times to the degree you didn't realize you needed it to be (but is obviously right on examination) and has been debugged by dozens of other people. When you do hit a bug, there are usually a dozen people on a mailing list, and one of them has either hit it, fixed it, or can point you in the right direction. If you do fix it, you throw it back over the fence and someone else takes care of it from there. In turn, perhaps you take on the responsibility for one very small bit of code to return the favor. Many hands make light work. To write a tool, these days I go to CPAN, find the parts I need, and string them together. Maybe this is the era of Software Construction - I sure don't expect the guy framing my garage to show up the first day with a chainsaw and a Wood Mizer. From a business perspective, this gets you software done faster and more correctly for less money. Call it productivity if you like, but I dare someone writing everything from scratch to bid against me using CPAN. Now, Sun and Microsoft would both like to offer you that component library in their favorite flavors, but they necessarily have a limited scope of interest and their library grows more slowly than ours does. The best part is it's not a zero-sum game. Everybody gets a lift from this model. (sent from the Korean Airlines departure lounge) Great, I'll be sitting at InfoeXchange while maddog eats Pho with a brigade of OSS fanatics. Good work if you can get it. :) -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/rss ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
Re: gnhlug-announce mail list delays?
On Sep 14, 2005, at 16:54, Mark Gelinas wrote: The solution? Be consistent in your posting address (register multiple addresses if you must), and have longer lead times on your announcements. I remember Rob mentioning he wanted the q. address added or deleted - but you bring up a good point. It's possible to create a mailman account and check the 'nomail' box on it, which would also work for Rob. -Bill - Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 603.252.2606 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Pager: 603.442.1833 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Text: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RSS: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/rss For fastest support contact, please follow: http://bfccomputing.com/support_contact.html ___ gnhlug-org mailing list gnhlug-org@mail.gnhlug.org http://mail.gnhlug.org/mailman/listinfo/gnhlug-org
