[NTG-context] Re: Errors with 2024-05-11 LMTX

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

Le 13-05-24 à 01:01, Hans Hagen a écrit :

On 5/12/2024 6:50 PM, Rik Kabel wrote:
I have come across an error that halts processing with 
the latest release. The following demonstrates this:
That one was hard to find as it was not something new hut 
just showing up now.


Can you try the latest binary from

https://build.contextgarden.net/dl/luametatex/work/

Hans


Thanks, that also solved the problem when I tried to compile 
"Hello-world.tex" from the distribution !


It was crashing for the lines 39-46.

Thanks for ConTeXt,

Alain


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[NTG-context] Re: manuals

[Alain Delmotte]

One could also have a look at

https://www.lesfichesabebert.fr/TeX/TeX.html

It is website introducing Context in French.
The author was using LaTeX, but he switched to Context for 
his work maintaining a regular publication.


Note: the site is now under reworking, but it is very 
interesting.


Alain

Le 14-02-24 à 23:25, Hans Hagen via ntg-context a écrit :

There's also:

https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context 



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[NTG-context] Installation of linux-32bits

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

I tried to install the linux 32 bits kindly provided by Hans.

It went all right up to:

mtxrun -generate

First I had to change my PATH putting the path to lmtx 
before TeXlive, because it was always the files from TeXlive 
which were used.


Then I got:


alain@alain:~/context/tex/texmf-linux/bin$ mtxrun --generate
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to 
'/home/alain/context/bin'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to 
'/home/alain/context'
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set 
to '/home/alain'

resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers   | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'context'
[...]
resolvers   | resolving |
resolvers   | resolving | warning: no lua configuration 
files found
resolvers   | resolving | no texmf paths are defined 
(using TEXMF)

resolvers   | resolving |
mtxrun  |
mtxrun  | elapsed lua time: 0.113 seconds
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so the binaries were not created.

What did I wrong? How to solve the problem?

Thanks,

Alain

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[NTG-context] Re: Fwd: Re: Context lmtx for 32bit under LUBUNTU 18.04

[Alain Delmotte]

Many thanks Hans and Hraban

Le 14-02-24 à 20:13, Henning Hraban Ramm a écrit :

Am 14.02.24 um 18:59 schrieb Angel M Alganza:

On 2024-02-14 18:10, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:


But Hans’ latest upload includes 32bt Linux binaries again.


That's an excellent piece of news!  I'm dual booting 
Linux and OpenBSD in some of the boxes where I previously 
was only running OpenBSD when the OpenBSD version was 
dropped to be able to run ConTeXt.


But where can I find them, please?  I can's see a link on 
the Wiki Installation page.


I re-added the link to 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation


Hraban

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[NTG-context] Fwd: Re: Context lmtx for 32bit under LUBUNTU 18.04

[Alain Delmotte]

I answered only for Hraban!! Sorry8

Alain


 Message transféré 
Sujet : 	Re: [NTG-context] Re: Context lmtx for 32bit under 
LUBUNTU 18.04

Date :  Tue, 13 Feb 2024 19:47:09 +0100
De :Alain Delmotte 
Pour :  Henning Hraban Ramm 




Le 13-02-24 à 18:21, Henning Hraban Ramm a écrit :

Am 13.02.24 um 17:29 schrieb Alain Delmotte:

Hi,

A month or so ago Hans provided a new upload (thanks I 
managed to get and install it on my Windows 10 64b). At 
that time I was struggling for having my computers back 
in order (that appends sometimes).


Now I'd like to have LMTX on an old but still used (when 
travelling) portable under lubuntu 18.04 32Bits.


There is no more executable available on pragma and I am 
using Context from TeX Live, but it is the 2017 version.


I can do with it, but it would be better to have Context 
lmtx latest.


Is it possible to have it? But if this a too complicate 
problem, I'll stand with the TeX Live Context.


Just compile it yourself.


In your installation root (where install.sh is):

PWD=`pwd`
cd tex/texmf-context/source/luametatex
sh build.sh
cp build/native/luametatex "$PWD/tex/texmf-linux/bin/"
cd "$PWD"


Hraban


OK I'll try

Alain


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[NTG-context] Context lmtx for 32bit under LUBUNTU 18.04

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

A month or so ago Hans provided a new upload (thanks I 
managed to get and install it on my Windows 10 64b). At that 
time I was struggling for having my computers back in order 
(that appends sometimes).


Now I'd like to have LMTX on an old but still used (when 
travelling) portable under lubuntu 18.04 32Bits.


There is no more executable available on pragma and I am 
using Context from TeX Live, but it is the 2017 version.


I can do with it, but it would be better to have Context 
lmtx latest.


Is it possible to have it? But if this a too complicate 
problem, I'll stand with the TeX Live Context.


Thanks for the system anyway.

Regards,

Alain Delmotte
Montpellier, France

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi Hans,

Le 20-01-24 à 09:38, Hans Hagen via ntg-context a écrit :

On 1/19/2024 6:34 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

*Von:*Alain Delmotte 
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04
*An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl
*Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload
[...]
When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 
Not Found

message, so I can't download the new upload !!
Works here.


Hi Denis,

I get a 404 error for both 
https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and

https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.

I can update my existing installed version, but I 
wouldn’t be able to

install a brand new distribution.

Do you reach any of the urls included in my first paragraph?

Many thanks for your help,

can you try again



I tried and passed the first step: I can go to the 
"Installation" page, but then again "Error 404" when I click 
on the "64 bit Microsoft Windows" link. Then I also tried 
"https://lmtx.pragma-ade.nl/install-llmtx/context-win64.zip; 
and I got the file!


Thanks,

Alain

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi Otared,

Le 19-01-24 à 22:56, Otared Kavian a écrit :

Hi Pablo,

Indeed the two URL you mention result t a 404 error. I 
guess the correct URL is

https://www.pragma-ade.nl

and there one may go to the appropriate tab.

Best regards: Otared


No it doesn't work. I ttried many times.

Alain




On 19 Jan 2024, at 18:34, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 
 wrote:


On 1/18/24 20:43, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote:

*Von:*Alain Delmotte 
*Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2024 20:04
*An:* ntg-context@ntg.nl
*Betreff:* [NTG-context] Re: upload
[...]
When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl, I get an 404 
Not Found

message, so I can't download the new upload !!
Works here.


Hi Denis,

I get a 404 error for both 
https://www.pragma-ade.nl/install.htm and

https://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm.

I can update my existing installed version, but I 
wouldn’t be able to

install a brand new distribution.

Do you reach any of the urls included in my first paragraph?

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo

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[NTG-context] Re: upload

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

When I go to https://www.pragma-ade.nl/ I get an 404 Not 
Found message, so I can't download the new upload !!


Any reason?

Alain

Le 18-01-24 à 00:13, Hans Hagen a écrit :

Hi,

I uploaded a new version (there is some work in progress 
but it probably doesn't affect anyone).


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] All NUL files in the Context distribution

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi,

Le 14/06/2023 à 17:13, Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context a écrit :

Hi,

I was looking into the SciTE setup when I found that
tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties
only contained NUL bytes.

Deleting and reinstalling doesn't fix it.

I have now checked the other files there and these files seem to have
gotten corrupted at some point.  Does anyone have a working copy to
restore them?

tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/scite-context-internal.properties
tex/texmf-context/context/data/scite/context/lexers/scite-context-lexer-web-snippets.lua
tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex

Thanks,


Same for me:
tex/texmf-context/doc/context/sources/general/manuals/start/en/ma-cb-en-commands.tex
contains NUL characters.

> system > ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.04 18:58 LMTX fmt: 
2023.6.13 int: english/english


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Re: [NTG-context] Text editors

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi!

Le 26/03/2023 à 10:39, jbf via ntg-context a écrit :


Every user has his or her own preferred test editor. Over 
years I have used Emacs for just about everything except 
the kitchen sink, but not, as it happens, for ConTeXt.


For what it's worth here is what I use:

(1) TeXworks. All one has to do is indicate the correct 
path to ConText in the setup for this program, depending 
on your OS and where you have installed it, e.g. 
home/yourname/bin/context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin if you 
are using Linux and have installed it in \bin. Then choose 
ConTeXt (LuaTeX) as the processing tool.


(2) But to make things a lot easier, I also use Federico's 
text expander Espanso 
https://espanso.org 
. This just saves so much time, 
especially for so many \start...\stop sequences.  For 
example, in espanso I might have:


You can do the same inside TeXworks. There are completion 
files in the folder 
C:\Users\yourname\AppData\Roaming\TUG\TeXworks\completion.


It is not yet completed for Context, but it should not be 
difficult to do that.


But thanks Julian, this is an interesting information

Alain


Julian

On 26/3/23 19:22, Alexandre Christe via ntg-context wrote:

Dear ConTeXt users,

I'm wondering what kind of typesetting system / syntax 
highlighting / completion you're using.


I've been using myself the simple_Context package for 
SublimeText which I scavenged a while ago before it was 
made unavailable (I wanted to attach but it's too big for 
the list). But it's sort of a dead-end.


Open to anything from vim/neovim to emacs or more exotic. 
Maybe it would be nice to show the config. (And yes I've 
seen the Wiki page 
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Text_Editorsbut I've the 
feeling some content is outdated.)


Thanks in advance,
Alex

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Re: [NTG-context] Trouble with latest...

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Hi!

Le 8/01/2023 à 21:02, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context a 
écrit :
Thomas A. Schmitz via ntg-context schrieb am 08.01.2023 um 
20:02:

Hi all,

I tried upgrading to the 2023 version, but generating the 
format fails with lots of these messages:


[...]
But I was surprised that nobody else had seen it yet. Can 
anyone confirm (or yell “works for me!”)?


You luametatex binary is too old and fails on the new 
\advanceby command.


When I tried to update my current installation a few 
moments ago the updater also failed to load the new 
luametatex binary (I haven't tried to regenerate the 
format files) but a fresh installation works without 
problems.


Wolfgang


I am working on Windows 10.

Anytime a new upload is announced, I download the 
context-win64.zip unpack it and run install.bat and setpath.bat.


Is it a fresh installation? Or should I from time to time 
erase my installation and run install.bat to create a new 
distribution?


Thanks for the advices!

Happy New Year to everybody!

Alain

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Re: [NTG-context] Ajami script

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Le 1/01/2023 à 11:03, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a 
écrit :

Am 01.01.23 um 10:21 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
On 12/31/2022 3:06 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via 
ntg-context wrote:

I just read this:
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2022/fallou-ngom-discovers-ajami-african-writing-system/ 



And now I’d like to know if ConTeXt is capable of 
typesetting this variant of Arabic. (Just out of 
curiosity, I can’t read any Arabic and don’t know any 
African language.)

Afaiks that script has been known fro a while:


I also thought I heard about it several years ago. The 
article makes it sound like news, that might be the 
perspective of the US scholars or a necessary means to get 
funded. But the oldest sources quoted in Wikipedia are 
from 1971 and 1982.


The arabic alphabet was also used from the XIth century to 
write swahili and some bantu languages around Tanzania and 
Kenya (Mozambic, Malawi, Uganda, east of Kongo, Sudan).


There are articles in Wikipedia.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_arabe_swahili
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swahili_language#Orthography

also: https://www.mustgo.com/worldlanguages/swahili/  see 
"writing"

https://omniglot.com/writing/swahili.htm


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajami_script
so when there are proper fonts, as:
https://software.sil.org/scheherazade/
https://software.sil.org/harmattan/


I don’t dare to ask about the Husayni fonts... ;)

it should be doable. The script is supported by unicode. 
I get the impression that the arabic scipt is mostly used 
getting the way the languages sounds on paper so vowels 
matter. There is mentioning of transliteration and so 
that might need some specific support. Nothing tex 
(context) can't do but only users and usage can prove that.


Thank you for your insights!
Of course it’s a matter of use(r)s.

All the best for a happy new year!
Hraban

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Re: [NTG-context] Help for using fonts Nupuram

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Thank you for your help.

It works.

Alain

Thanks for you help.



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[NTG-context] Help for using fonts Nupuram

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Hi!

I am trying to run the example Hans published on the 1st of 
December with a new upload.

It is about using the variable font Nupuram.

I downloaded the font in a big .zip file.
It contains: two explaining files and  folder with  
sub-folder "Nupuram", which in turn contains 6 subsub-filders:

- otf with 32 otf font files
- otf-variable with 1 file "Nupuram-VF.otf"
- ttf with 32 ttf font files
- ttf-variable with 1 file "Nupuram-VF.ttf"
- ufo with 32 subfolders xxx.ufo
- webfonts with 33 xxx.woff2 files

After looking to contextgarden,I tried to put the "Nupuram" 
sub-folder or only the folders with .otf in different places 
of my context-lmtx folder, and using "mtxrun --script font 
--reload".

But the example of Hans didn't work.

Then I install the .ttf font files in Windows\fonts; it 
works, but 1) trying to install the Nupuram-VF.ttf, I have 
the message that Nupuram-Regular is already installed; and 
2) I get the font in the example, but no changes of width or 
colour.


So, now I deleted all the Nupuram everywhere.
How could I have it fully working under context-lmtx?

I have different places for fonts in my context-lmtx:
- tex\texmf\fonts  mainly empty except \data
- texmf-context\fonts  populated
- texmf-fonts  empty
- texmf-modules\fonts  populated

Thanks for you help.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
Regards

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Re: [NTG-context] Margin figure in itemize

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi!

Le 21/11/2022 à 14:00, Alexandre Christe via ntg-context a 
écrit :

Dear list,

With the following MWE I end up with big gaps between 
margin figures in an itemized list. Is there a way to 
remove that space in the text and place the figures in the 
margin one below the other the best one can?


\setuppagenumbering
  [alternative=doublesided, location=margin]

\setuplayout
  [header=0pt,
   margin=4cm,
   footerdistance=.5cm,
   topspace=1cm,
   backspace=1cm,
   cutspace=2cm,
   width=fit,
   height=\dimexpr
\paperheight-\topspace+\footerheight+\footerdistance-4cm\relax]

% \showframe

\definefloat
  [marginfigure]
  [figure]

\setupfloat
  [marginfigure]
  [outermargindistance=-\outermargintotal,
  default={outermargin,height,high,low,none}]

\starttext

\startstaticMPfigure{square}
  draw fullsquare scaled 3cm;
\stopstaticMPfigure

\startitemize
  \placemarginfigure{}{\usestaticMPfigure[square]}
  \item bla
  \item bla
  \placemarginfigure{}{\usestaticMPfigure[square]}
  \item bla
\stopitemize

\stoptext

Thanks in advance,
Alex

For me it looks alright, in particular if you have longer 
text in the \item. The figures are aligned with the \item's.


One thing which changes is the space between de items: 
between 2 and 3. I have no answer for that.


---
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Re: [NTG-context] issues with current latest

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

Hi!

Le 14/10/2022 à 16:24, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context a écrit :

Dear list,

I have the following sample:

   \setuppapersize[A7]
   \setupinteraction[state=start,
 color=darkred,
 contrastcolor=darkred,
 focus=standard]
   \starttext
   \completecontent
   \startsection[title={sec}, list=(before \&\ now), reference=a]
   \page
   \in[a] (after 2022.10.14 10:16)
   \stopsection
   \stoptext

For me it works! And

[...]
It is also caused by the minimal:

   \starttext
\null
   \stoptext


also for this!

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Re: [NTG-context] regular online meet-up

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Hi,

Unfortunately at that time I am not free.

Have a very good meeting.

All the best, Alain

Le 9/10/2022 à 12:41, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a 
écrit :
You’re invited to join on Wednesday, October 12th, 15:00 
CEST (UTC+2)


at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke
(same, but shorter: https://v34h.de/ctxmtg)

ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome!

Next meeting will be on November 9th.


(Same blurb as every time:)

[Howto]
* No special software installation required; most modern 
browsers should work (WebRTC required).

* Open the above URL, accept the privacy statement,
* enter your name,
* click "join" (or "start" if you’re the first),
* click "with microphone", allow your browser to access 
it, check the audio.
* Your microphone is muted if you join. Activate 
microphone and/or camera with the buttons at the bottom.
* Minimize the default presentation with the "screen" 
button, bottom right.


* If you’d like to share your screen or upload a file, you 
can make yourself the presenter: Click on your user name, 
change the setting, then you’ll see the "screen sharing" 
button beside the camera button; also there’s now "manage 
presentations" behind the "plus" button.
Beware there is only one presenter at a time, so don’t 
kill someone else’s presentation.


[Technical hints]
* Sound is usually better if you use a headset (less noise 
for everyone).


* Connection problems are mostly due to low bandwidth or 
high latency on your side, e.g. with mobile connections.
* If audio/video doesn’t work for you, you can still use 
the text chat.

* Screen sharing needs a lot of bandwidth.

* BigBlueButton documentation applies: 
https://bigbluebutton.org/teachers/tutorials/


[Netiquette]
* Please use a name that we recognize from here. Some feel 
uncomfortable with anonymous lurkers.

* Mute your microphone while you’re not talking.
* It’s nice to show your face at least when you join.
* If there are connection problems, stop camera sharing.
* The room is set to “everyone’s a moderator“, I trust you...

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Re: [NTG-context] the system not working on Linux 32 with Context-lmtx

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Le 27/06/2022 à 22:32, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context a écrit :

On 6/27/22 20:00, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:

Am 27.06.22 um 19:10 schrieb Alain Delmotte via ntg-context:

[…]
When I run from the console:
context sanstitre-2.tex
mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
[…]
What should I do?

[…]
Try to rebuild the database: mtxrun --generate

Hi Alain,

as Hraban points out, "mtxrun --generate" is your friend.

I can simply reproduce you error with:

   mtxrun --scripts cache --erase

So I get:

   $ context
   mtxrun | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'

Everything works fine again after I run:

   mtxrun --generate.

Before the first run after installation, this command is mandatory to
build the database.

I hope it helps,

Pablo


Hi Pablo and Haram,

When I was running mtxrun --generate, there was an 
interference with TeX Live, so I uninstalled it, then it 
worked. I do not know if that time I did run mtxrun. But 
under TeXworks when I selected context as program it kept 
electing luametatex, and it didn't work; so I manually wrote 
"context" and it worked!!


Thanks for your help,

Alain

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[NTG-context] the system not working on Linux 32 with Context-lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
I installed a new disk and reinstalled
the programs I was using before, including Context-lmtx
It is on lubuntu 18.04 on an old 32bit machine.
When I run from the console:
context sanstitre-2.tex
mtxrun  | unknown script 'context.lua' or
'mtx-context.lua'
  
When I run from TeXworks, I get only
one line:
startup error : no format file given, quitting
  
So there is a step which didn't work.
What should I do?
Thanks,
Alain

  

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Re: [NTG-context] lmtx installation paths not working

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hello,
I do not understand what you did!
I went to "http://www.pragma-ade.com/install.htm"
downlaoded the 64 bit Microsoft Windows file
"context-win64.zip".
I did create a folder c:\data\context
wher I did put the .zip file and unzipped it.
I got 
  
c:\data\context\bin
  c:\data\context\context-win64.zip
  c:\data\context\install.bat
  c:\data\context\installation.pdf
  c:\data\context\setpath.bat
Double-cliquing the install.bat it did
install all the structure; it took some time to fetch and unzip
texmf.zip and texmf-context.zip. After this doubleclic
setpath.bat ad everything was ok!
Hope this help.
Alain

Le 14/06/2022 à 13:20, Jano Kula via
  ntg-context a écrit :


  
  Hello list,


I cannot make fresh install of lmtx to work. The structure
  after unzipping:

  C:\data\context\bin\beta
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\bin
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\tex
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\tex\texmf
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\tex\texmf-cache
  
  C:\data\context\bin\beta\tex\texmf-context

etc.


First compilation of texfile is not working, so mtxrun --generate is the friend.



  C:\data>mtxrun --generate
  
  
  These paths contain probably
  correct path (watch /beta):
  
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to
'C:/data/context/bin/beta/bin'
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to
'C:/data/context/bin/beta'
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set
to 'C:/data/context/bin'
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'TEXMF' set to ''
resolvers       | resolving | variable 'TEXOS' set to 'beta'
resolvers       | resolving |
  
  
  and the paths bellow have no /beta from
  above, they are derived from selfautoparent C:/data/context/bin
(without /beta), so no surprise
  they cannot be found.
  
resolvers       | resolving | using configuration
specification
'home:texmf/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c;selfautoparent:/texmf/web2c'
resolvers       | resolving |
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 'C:/Users/jano/texmf/web2c'
from specification 'home:texmf/web2c'
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 'C:/data/context/bin/texmf-local/web2c'
from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-local/web2c'
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 'C:/data/context/bin/texmf-context/web2c' from
specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-context/web2c'
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 'C:/data/context/bin/texmf-dist/web2c'
from specification 'selfautoparent:/texmf-dist/web2c'
  [... skip ...]
resolvers       | resolving | looking for regular
'texmfcnf.lua' on given path 
resolvers       | resolving |
resolvers       | resolving | warning: no lua configuration
files found
resolvers       | resolving | no texmf paths are defined
(using TEXMF)
resolvers       | resolving |
mtxrun          |
mtxrun          | elapsed lua time: 0.026 seconds

 
Do you have an idea how to fix problem?
I will be thankful for an advice, it is quite urgent
  (everything was working yesterday).


Thank you,
Jano


  
  
  
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Re: [NTG-context] 32-bit OpenBSD

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 1/05/2022 à 11:01, Mojca Miklavec
  via ntg-context a écrit :


  Hi,

How long do we want/need to keep running the builders for 32-bit OpenBSD?

It's taking 2 or 3 times longer to build binaries than for the 64-bit
OS (not that this is super relevant since ppc builder is a whole order
of magnitude slower anyway: building TL there takes about 6 hours) and
I suspect that nobody is using those 32-bit binaries anyway.

Mojca

My portable is a 32-bit on which I am running Lubuntu 18.04; but
  i didn't upgrade ConTeXt lmtx for long as, as I did understand,
  there is no more new binaries.
But I can do without ConTeXt on that computer.
Alain



  

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Re: [NTG-context] Space around figure

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Thanks Duncan!
Alain

Le 28/04/2022 à 13:05, Duncan
  Hothersall a écrit :


  
  
You should be able to change the space above and
  below a float with the spacebefore and spaceafter keys to
  \setupfloat. I think the default value is big for each, but
  you can override that with null. Something like
  
  
  \setupfloat[figure][spacebefore=,spaceafter=]
  
  
  Hope that helps.
  
  
  Duncan



  On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at
11:41, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
wrote:
  
  

  Hi, 

  When one insert a figure in
  a text, I think that the default behaviour is to add
  space around the figure.
  Is tit possible to manage
  that space or suppress it?
  Thanks in advance,
  --
  Alain
  

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[NTG-context] Space around figure

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Hi, 
  
When one insert a figure in a text, I
think that the default behaviour is to add space around the
figure.
Is tit possible to manage that space
or suppress it?
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [NTG-context] TeXworks on Linux

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi Willi!
Le 9/04/2022 à 21:52, Willi Egger via ntg-context a écrit :

  Good evening!

Currently I am trying to test different editors on a Linux-box. — Tonight I installed TeXworks. Now I wanted to change the editor to use ConTeXt LMTX. I added in the tab “typesetting" the path to the executables in the TeX tree. Then I added funder editing the processing tools following the Wiki as a programme mtxrun and as parameters —script context $fullname.

After restarting the application I get the error:

“unknown script ‘mtx-base.lua' or ‘mtx-mtx-base.lua’” 

My question is, is there a user out there who knows how to fix this?

Kind regards

Willi

I have an old computer under Linux 18.04
In
TeXworks/Edit/Preferences/Typesetting I have an entry for
ConTeXt lmtx:
path:
/usr/bin
  /usr/local/sbin
  /usr/local/bin
/usr/sbin
/sbin
/bin
/usr/games
/home/alain/context-lmtx/bin
  /home/alain/context-lmtx/tex/texmf-linux/bin
/usr/local/texlive/2020/bin/i386-linux
Most of the path is automatically
created when installing TeXworks. You should perhaps take care
that the paths for context-lmtx is "before the one for texlive,
if you have it.
Now for the definition for the
program:
name:   Context (which will appear in the drop-down menu
program:  context
parameters: --synctex    (which is not fonctionnal)
    $fullname
  
That'all!
I hope it  will help.
Alain
  

  

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Re: [NTG-context] Spellchecking for ConTeXt user on a Windows platform

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Hi Amine!
Do you mean spellchecking the content
of your document (not the ConTeXt commands)?
This depends on your editor! 
I use TeXworks and there is spellchecking using the dictionaries
of LibreOffice. You should copy the .aff and .dicfiles from
"C:\Program Files\LibreOffice\share\extensions\..."
subdirectories to the "C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\TUG\TeXworks\dictionaries"
folder (created when installing TeXworks), (I think not in
subfolders for the different languages).
You can then ask for spellchecking when you type or not.
I hope this help,
Alain
  
Le 2/04/2022 à 09:23, A A via
  ntg-context a écrit :


  
  Dear All,


I'm currently using ConTeXt on a windows machine. I'd like
  to incorporate some sort of automated spell-checking in my
  workflow. I've seen that there are two options:

  
spell check the .tex source file
spell check the resulting pdf
  
  For the first option many resources online seem to
suggest using aspell. aspell is however not
maintained for windows and therefore hopelessly out of date.
Furthermore many resources online seem to suggest skipping
TeX and LaTeX control sequences does not always succeed. So
I can only imagine how poorly it deals with ConTeXt control
sequences.
  
  
  The second option as shown on this StackExchange post suggests
using \loadspellchecklist. However, on of the
arguments to this command includes a text file listing - and
brace yourself - all of the correctly spelled words.
I find this both an amusing and tragic proposition, since I
basically need to spellcheck based on every word in a
  given language.


  
What options are out there for someone who would like to do
  serious spellchecking using ConTeXt on Windows platform, using
  Powershell as my command line?


Regards,


Amine
  
  
  
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: command line arguments to specify output directory

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi Amine,
Le 31/03/2022 à 07:24, A A via ntg-context a écrit :

  
  Hi Aditya,


Nevermind, I got it to work. Thanks!


Amine
  


  
And how did you get it to work? Could
you leave a trace of what you did?
Thanks
--
Alain


  
On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 07:21,
  A A 
  wrote:


  Hi Aditya,


Sorry, but I'm still getting an error:


runtime error : input file 'test/test.tex' is not
found, quitting



Amine
  
  
  
On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at
  00:46, Aditya Mahajan via ntg-context 
  wrote:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2022, A
  A via ntg-context wrote:
  > On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 at 18:39, Wolfgang Schuster <
  > wolfgang.schuster.li...@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  > 
  > > A A via ntg-context schrieb am 30.03.2022 um
  18:24:
  > > > Dear All,
  > > >
  > > > I would like to ask whether there exists a
  command line option to the
  > > > context executable which would allow me to
  specify the directory in
  > > > which I would like my output to be dumped.
  > > >
  > > > I have noticed that if I call the
  executable outside the directory in
  > > > which the .tex file resides, my supporting
  files (and resulting pdf)
  > > > are dumped outside the directory in which
  the .tex file is located.
  > >
  > > context --runpath=... filename
  > 
  >    - I tried the following *context --runpath=test
  test/test.tex * but it
  >    still dumps all the output (.log, .pdf and .tuc)
  into my current directory.
  >    I would like for it to get dumped inside the *test
  *directory...
  
  mtxrun --path=test --script context test.tex
  
  (note that filename has to be relative to the test/
  directory not CWD)
  
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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
I'll try to join and I have a question
regarding inserting floats in outer margins in double sided
document. The outer margins are large and the inner small. I
want to insert my floats (mainly figures) in the outer margins
and have them at level where they are called. Furthermore,
sometimes the float is to large, so it should take part of the
text, with the text surrounding it.
But this is perhaps answered in
context garden, but I didn't find where.
And if there are more fundamental
questions, my can wait.
See you on Tuesday.
Regards,
Alain

Le 5/02/2022 à 13:51, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :

You’re
  invited to join next Tuesday, February 8th, 15:00 CET (UTC+1)
  
  
  at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke
  
  
  ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome!
  
  
  Hans offered to give a Q session again – please announce
  subjects you’d like to discuss ASAP, so that he can prepare.
  
  
  
  Regarding the date:
  
  Denis, who originally suggested Tuesday afternoon, can’t take part
  due to other obligations. I could also offer Wednesday or
  Thursday.
  
  We could also change the weekday every time, but that might be
  confusing. I would keep the European afternoon time, since that
  makes participation possible for people from America and Asia.
  
  What do you think?
  
  Vote here: https://nuudel.digitalcourage.de/tB1MHH4jx6M5uwPg
  
  
  
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Re: [NTG-context] update lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 22/11/2021 à 22:37, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

Hi,
  
  
  We're still working on the math so updated lfg files buit not many
  other things apart from a few fixes.
  
  
  In the process I ran into another area where ms eems to take the
  lead:
  
  
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/math-in-office/unicode-math-braille-sequences/
  
  
  and although it aims at msword I gave that a go for context so we
  now have a "braille-basic" module (style) that we (can) use (and
  run as demo) for playing with math spacing because we basically
  have a monospace font. If there is any interest in braille as
  alternative output we can extend that. I'm pretty sure that we
  need to adapt some (general spacing related) presets to this
  situation.
  
  
  Hans
  

I remember having contact with people in the braille association
  in Belgium.
  To prepare braille text you need to follow certain rules, it is
  not just using braille symbols. 

So it is better to ask braille specialist about the requirements
  for good braille text.
Alain



  

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Re: [NTG-context] upload

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
When I run the example below with 2021.11.22
  22:32 LMTX fmt: 2021.11.23 I get errors for \Umathxscale and
  \setupmathsspacing The control sequence [...] was never \def'ed.


Alain


Le 24/11/2021 à 15:29, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

Hi,
  
  
  for those who keep an eye on what is new, the most recent upload
  provides this:
  
  
  \starttext
  
  
  $\Umathxscale\textstyle  800 a + b + x + d + e = f $\par
  
  $\Umathxscale\textstyle 1000 a + b + x + d + e = f $\par
  
  $\Umathxscale\textstyle 1200 a + b + x + d + e = f $\blank
  
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[narrow] a + b + x + d + e = f $\par
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[normal] a + b + x + d + e = f $\par
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[wide]   a + b + x + d + e = f $\blank
  
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[tight]  x^2_1$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[normal] x^2_1$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[loose]  x^2_1$\blank
  
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[narrow]\sqrt[2]{x+1}$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[normal]\sqrt[2]{x+1}$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[wide]  \sqrt[2]{x+1}$\blank
  
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[less]  \sqrt[2]{x+1}$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[normal]\sqrt[2]{x+1}$\quad
  
  $\showboxes\setupmathspacing[more]  \sqrt[2]{x+1}$\blank
  
  
  \stoptext
  
  
  it's still experimental so the predefined values might change
  
  
  Hans
  
  
  
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Re: [NTG-context] update lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
In the new upload for Windows 10/64
there is a new file "modules.bat".
When I did launch it it went through
all my harddisk and most of the time there was a line saying:
"File has vanished..." those were
about files outside the context-lmtx folder. (See the two
attached images)
  
I crashed the action.
How can I have the modules installed
in "C:\Users\Alain\context-lmtx\tex" and have the module use
working?
Thanks,
Alain
  
Le 22/11/2021 à 22:37, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

Hi,
  
  
  We're still working on the math so updated lfg files buit not many
  other things apart from a few fixes.
  
  
  In the process I ran into another area where ms eems to take the
  lead:
  
  
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/math-in-office/unicode-math-braille-sequences/
  
  
  and although it aims at msword I gave that a go for context so we
  now have a "braille-basic" module (style) that we (can) use (and
  run as demo) for playing with math spacing because we basically
  have a monospace font. If there is any interest in braille as
  alternative output we can extend that. I'm pretty sure that we
  need to adapt some (general spacing related) presets to this
  situation.
  
  
  Hans
  
  
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[NTG-context] To prepare the online meeting of Tuesday

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
I asked to discuss or have some
suggestions about installing and using Scite for ConTeXt.
If it is possible OK, but it is not
urgent.
To give some background:
I use Windows 10 and lmtx (in its own folder).
I installed Scite in c:\wscite and copied there the
scite\context folder; I added the folder to the PATH.
If I comment the line (import
context/scite-context-user) at the end of SciteGlobalproperties
I can load .lua, .tex, .py files and I get the colours
highlighting. 
  
But if I uncomment: first I have Scite
opening full screen, which is annoying, and the colour
highlighting for .lua, and .tex disappears, but I have the
context/scite.xxx.properties listed in Options!!!
And I still need to configure to be
able to compile and...
  
Thanks for the advices.
Regards,
Alain
PS When I install lmtx, I have two
messages (but which disappear very quickly) about missing ??
with lua and lmtx (path?, ...)
How to be able to read the log of the installation? Thanks
  
  

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Re: [NTG-context] Strange result with the new upload

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Thanks Hans

Le 5/11/2021 à 18:16, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

On
  11/5/2021 5:45 PM, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context wrote:
  
  Hi,


If I take the last piece of code from Hans' message 28/10/2021
11:24, and run it with the new upload I get clean paragraphs
with the red ans the blue colour, but for the paragraphs with
the green colour, the text in colour ("keyword") is overwritten
by the normal text in black.


I don't remember that before.

  
  the localboxes interface changed a bit ... see the new lowlevel
  manual for details (i added 'middle' boxes so that we can do
  better margin trickery and there are predefined handlers for l/r
  margin text and nline numbers now
  
  
  (local boxes are still kind of work in progress, the old (luatex)
  interfaces were not that usefui / interesting anyway, and we can
  do more now)
  
  
  Hans
  
  
  
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[NTG-context] Strange result with the new upload

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
If I take the last piece of code from
Hans' message 28/10/2021 11:24, and run it with the new upload I
get clean paragraphs with the red ans the blue colour, but for
the paragraphs with the green colour, the text in colour
("keyword") is overwritten by the normal text in black.
I don't remember that before.
Alain
Here is the code:
%I need to ponder this usage:


\definelocalboxes

  [linetextA]

  [command=\LeftTextA,

  location=lefttext,

  style=\bs,

  color=darkblue]


\protected\def\LeftTextA#1{\llap{#1}\quad}


\definelocalboxes

  [linetextB]

  [command=\LeftTextB,

  location=left,

  style=\bs,

  color=darkgreen]


\protected\def\LeftTextB{\llap{\unhbox\localboxcontentbox}\quad}


\starttext


\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\leftparbox
  {\red \bf keyword}HERE\leftparbox{}
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\blank


{\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\leftparbox
  {\red \bf keyword}test
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }}
\blank


{\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\localbox[linetextA]{keyword}HERE
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }}


{\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\localbox[linetextB]{keyword}HERE
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }}


{\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\localbox[linetextB]{keyword
  1}HERE1
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }
\localbox[linetextB]{keyword
  2}HERE2
\dorecurse{10}{some
  text #1 }}


\stoptext

  

  

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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 2/11/2021 à 21:41, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :


  You’re invited to join next Tuesday, November 9th, 15:00 CET (UTC+1)

at https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke

ConTeXt users of all levels are welcome!

Hans offered to give a Q session again – please announce subjects you’d like to discuss ASAP, so that he can prepare.
[...]

I would appreciate instructions to use Scite.
I follow what is in "scite-context-readme.pdf" and in
  "wiki.contextgarden.net", but I do not succeed.
Alain

 
  

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Re: [NTG-context] Adaptation of ConTeXt to Esperanto

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  


Le 9/10/2021 à 12:49, Wolfgang Schuster
  a écrit :

Alain
  Delmotte schrieb am 09.10.2021 um 11:23:
  
  Hi!


Le 9/10/2021 à 10:58, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :

Alain Delmotte via ntg-context schrieb
  am 08.10.2021 um 22:07:
  
  Hi,


Some time ago I did prepare the files to support Esperanto
in Context (hyphenation and translation of terms).


I thought it was working, testing with the command \date,
which gives the correct format.


But today I remarked that the legends for Figure and Table
(and perhaps other) are in English.


The file lang-txt.lua is there and contains the translations
for Esperanto.

  
  
  The language definitions for esperanto in lang-def.mkxl are in
  the wrong order, the first definition has to be "eo".
  
  
  
  \installlanguage
  
  - [\s!esperanto]
  
  + [\s!eo]
  
    [\c!spacing=\v!packed,
  
     \c!leftsentence=\endash,
  
     \c!rightsentence=\endash,
  
     \c!leftsubsentence=\endash,
  
     \c!rightsubsentence=\endash,
  
     \c!leftquote=\upperleftsinglesixquote, %U+2018,
  
     \c!rightquote=\upperrightsingleninequote,  %U+2019,
  
     \c!leftquotation=\upperleftdoublesixquote, %U+201C,
  
     \c!rightquotation=\upperrightdoubleninequote,  %U+201D,
  
     \c!date={\v!day,-a\space de\space,\v!month,\space \v!year},
  
     \s!patterns=eo,
  
     \s!lefthyphenmin=2,
  
     \s!righthyphenmin=2]
  
  
  -\installlanguage[\s!eo][\c!default=\s!esperanto]
  
  +\installlanguage[\s!esperanto][\c!default=\s!eo]
  
  
  
  Wolfgang
  


Thanks Wolfgang, I did find the file and the wrong order.


Now, what should I do? I modified it outside context-lmtx in a
copy.


Replace the original and???

  
  
  You have to make the changes in the original file and afterwards
  generate the format file with
  
  
      context --make
  
  
  If everything works as expected report back and Hans can apply the
  fix on his machine to ensure they are included in the next release
  because when you make a update your changes are overwritten.
  
  
  Wolfgang
  

Thanks Wolfgang, it works perfectly.
You can report to Hans and thank him
for the nice work.
Alain

  


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Re: [NTG-context] Adaptation of ConTeXt to Esperanto

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Le 8/10/2021 à 23:10, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context a 
écrit :

Am 08.10.2021 um 22:07 schrieb Alain Delmotte via ntg-context 
:

I am using ConTeXt lmtx: "system > ConTeXt ver: 2021.09.26 17:00 LMTX fmt: 2021.9.30 
int: english/english"
But it looks like Esperanto is not loaded:  "languages > language 'en' is 
active"

Trying to use
\setuplabeltext[eo][figure={Figuro~}]
\setuplabeltext[eo][table={Tabelo~}]
doesn't help.

What canI do?

Are you sure you set \mainlanguage[eo]?

(Can’t help you further, sorry.)

Hraban


Yes of course I did!

Alain


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[NTG-context] Adaptation of ConTeXt to Esperanto

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,
Some time ago I did prepare the files to
  support Esperanto in Context (hyphenation and translation of
  terms).
I thought it was working, testing with
the command \date, which gives the correct format.
But today I remarked that the legends
for Figure and Table (and perhaps other) are in English.
The file lang-txt.lua is there and
contains the translations for Esperanto.
I am using ConTeXt lmtx: "system > ConTeXt ver: 2021.09.26 17:00
LMTX fmt: 2021.9.30 int: english/english"
But it looks like Esperanto is not loaded:  "languages
  > language 'en' is active"
Trying to
  use 
  \setuplabeltext[eo][figure={Figuro~}]
  \setuplabeltext[eo][table={Tabelo~}]
doesn't help.


What canI do?


Thanks,
Alain

  


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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
OK for me.
What is the way to attend: just log to
  https://lecture.senfcall.de/hen-rbr-rku-oke
  ??
Thanks for the proposal,
Alain

Le 30/09/2021 à 21:52, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :


  Ok, how about Tuesday (October 5th) at 15:00 CEST (11:00 EDT, 21:00 SGT)?

Hraban


  
Am 29.09.2021 um 07:09 schrieb Denis Maier via ntg-context :

Hi,

I think a regular online meetup would be great, and I agree with Hans that some way to collect topics would be nice. Re Time: I'd prefer Mo-Thursday during regular working hours (Central European Time), but maybe that should be offered at different times to accomodate for different needs?

Denis

  
  
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[NTG-context] Running the examples from METAFUN-p

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
I am looking to METAFUN and I wanted
to follow the Growing Graphics demonstration (page 314-- ).
I copied the instructions and
everything went OK up to page 320; the command to place the
figure with a button returns an error:


  \stopoverlay}}


 1
  >> %% !TeX program = ConTeXt 
 2 
 3 
 4
  \starttext
 5 
 6
  \startbuffer[a]
 7 def
  start_everything = enddef ;
 8 def
  stop_everything = enddef ;
 9
  \stopbuffer
10 
11
  \startbuffer[b]
The
  control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message
  was never
\def'ed.
  You can just continue as I'll forget about whatever was undefined.

  It looks like \stopoverlay is not known!!! but \startoverlay is
  recognised!


Alain


  

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Re: [NTG-context] running tikz

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 30/09/2021 à 12:01, Henri Menke via
  ntg-context a écrit :


  On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 11:57 +0200, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context
wrote:

  
Hi!

I would like to use tikz to benefit of the package "pgf-soroban" I
did write for LaTeX (after adapting it and before, later, to
translate it to metapost).

I did try the sample program from the tikz manual, but I get an error
saying that "t-pgf.tex" is not found; but it is in the tree of
ConTeXt-lmtx.

How to make all the files in the distribution known to the compiler?

  
  

Note that there is currently no proper support for LMTX in PGF/TikZ.

https://github.com/pgf-tikz/pgf/issues/990

Cheers, Henri

OK, in fact it works in ConTeXt standalone, so I'll use that for
  the moment.
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[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
I would like to use tikz to benefit of
the package "pgf-soroban" I did write for LaTeX (after adapting
it and before, later, to translate it to metapost).
I did try the sample program from the
tikz manual, but I get an error saying that "t-pgf.tex" is not
found; but it is in the tree of ConTeXt-lmtx.
How to make all the files in the
distribution known to the compiler?
Thanks,
Alain
%% ConTeXt file
\usemodule[tikz]
\starttext
    We are
  working on
   
  \starttikzpicture
       
  \draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0);
       
  \draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5);
   
  \stoptikzpicture.
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Re: [NTG-context] Regular online meet-up

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi,

Le 25/09/2021 à 20:02, Henning Hraban
  Ramm via ntg-context a écrit :


  Hi all,

already for a while I wanted to suggest a regular online meet-up, just to chat or discuss ConTeXt and the world.

Participants of the just finished meeting already know the BigBlueButton “room”, and without the difficulty of a auditory in presence and a weak DHCP, we should have even less problems with it.

I’d offer this monthly, 2–3 hours, and let’s see if it stands the test.

Now, if you’d like to participate, which times would fit you (weekdays, daytime...)?

Warm regards,
Hraban

What is the BigBlueButton “room”?
I am interested.
I hope that the “just finished meeting” was enjoyable, calm, not
  necessarily reposing and of course fruitful.
Regards,
  Alain



  


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[NTG-context] Full success

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
Just to wish full success to the 15th
ConTeXt Meeting.
  
I would have liked to participate, but
it has not been possible.
Have good work, enjoy!
Alain

  
  

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to install lmtx

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Le 17/09/2021 à 08:47, Hans Hagen via ntg-context a écrit :
On 9/16/2021 11:45 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
wrote:


Am 16.09.2021 um 19:45 schrieb Alain Delmotte via 
ntg-context :


I changef my antivirus and now I could install lmtx.


Besides that, most antivirus solutions for Windows since 
7 aren’t better than the builtins and often even open 
additional security holes.
which is true for any operating system (also phones etc) 
and popular ones get more attention of intruders


anyway, here i have never used anything else than the 
built in security essentials (that scan incoming stuff) 
and those don't complain about the binaries so i guess it 
was a false positive


Hans


That's what I did, I went back to Windows Defender

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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to install lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 16/09/2021 à 09:54, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

On
  9/15/2021 10:04 PM, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context wrote:
  
  Hi!


I can't anymore install ConTeXt lmtx and wanted to use PPCHTeX
and I always got an error message.


So I wanted to run mtxrun --generate, but the access was denied.


I then wanted to run the last install.bat (I am on Windows 10)
but I always get a message from my antivirus (Panda Dome) which
says that context.exe and mtxrun.ex have  a virus and neutralise
them (that means erase them from the bin folder). I get the same
if I erase everything and install from fresh!


So when I run TeXworks for compiling I get a message saying that
ConTeXt is not well installed.


I am stuck!


Should I use ConTeXt standalone in the mean time?

  
  you could try standalone, then unzip the regular context archive
  over it, and put the bins from the installer in the bin path
  
  
  or just disable the virus scanner when installing
  
  
  (the bin is generated on windows so that implies that the mingw
  cross compiler on linux is adding a virus or that the native
  compiler does so)
  
  
  (maybe we should also add a native variant as alternative)
  
  
  Hans
  

I changef my antivirus and now I could install lmtx.
Thanks,
Alain

  


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Re: [NTG-context] Unable to install lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!

Le 16/09/2021 à 09:54, Hans Hagen via
  ntg-context a écrit :

On
  9/15/2021 10:04 PM, Alain Delmotte via ntg-context wrote:
  
  Hi!


I can't anymore install ConTeXt lmtx and wanted to use PPCHTeX
and I always got an error message.


So I wanted to run mtxrun --generate, but the access was denied.


I then wanted to run the last install.bat (I am on Windows 10)
but I always get a message from my antivirus (Panda Dome) which
says that context.exe and mtxrun.ex have  a virus and neutralise
them (that means erase them from the bin folder). I get the same
if I erase everything and install from fresh!


So when I run TeXworks for compiling I get a message saying that
ConTeXt is not well installed.


I am stuck!


Should I use ConTeXt standalone in the mean time?

  
  you could try standalone, then unzip the regular context archive
  over it, and put the bins from the installer in the bin path
  
  
  or just disable the virus scanner when installing
  
  
  (the bin is generated on windows so that implies that the mingw
  cross compiler on linux is adding a virus or that the native
  compiler does so)
  
  
  (maybe we should also add a native variant as alternative)
  
  
  Hans
  

Thanks Hans.
As I am the only one who reported this problem, it should be a
  local problem (not one coming from the cross compiler nor the
  native compiler -- unless you mean that part of the installation
  is compiled on my computer?). It could also be a false alert of
  the antivirus.
I'll test.
Alain



  
  

  


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[NTG-context] Unable to install lmtx

[Alain Delmotte via ntg-context]

  
  
Hi!
I can't anymore install ConTeXt lmtx and wanted to use PPCHTeX
  and I always got an error message.
So I wanted to run mtxrun --generate, but the access was denied.
I then wanted to run the last install.bat (I am on Windows 10)
  but I always get a message from my antivirus (Panda Dome) which
  says that context.exe and mtxrun.ex have  a virus and neutralise
  them (that means erase them from the bin folder). I get the same
  if I erase everything and install from fresh!

So when I run TeXworks for compiling I get a message saying that
  ConTeXt is not well installed.
I am stuck!
Should I use ConTeXt standalone in the mean time?

Any help?
Thanks
--
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Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt - French version - progress report.

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi Garulfo,
Le 16/06/2021 à 22:56, Garulfo a écrit :
Hi all,
  Joaquín
  
  
  I hope your are doing well.
  
  
  To keep you informed of my progress on the French version of "a
  not so short introduction to ConTeXt", I am done for part I, and
  II, and I am starting with Part III...
  
  
  I really appreciate Joaquín's Introduction, its structure, the
  sequence of steps. Thanks again for that.
  
  
  The latest french pdf can be found here :
  
  
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context/main/fr/introCTX_fra.pdf
  
  
  The GitHub directory is here :
  
https://github.com/contextgarden/not-so-short-introduction-to-context/tree/main/
  
  
  
  I added some content :
  
  - 6.7 :  how to use fonts from the operating system
  
  - 7.4.3.D :  tweaks with sectionconversionset
  
  - p.6 :  kind of "visual Table of Content"
  
  - 9.6 :  attachements
  
  
  
  I added some "features" :
  
  - use of ~10 environnement files for typesetting configuration
  
  - colors :   to provide a somewhat attractive document
  
   inspired by Hans Hagen "Typographic Programming"
  
   https://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/style.pdf
  
  - commands to typeset Demos (showing code and results side by
  side)
  
  - some attachments to provide "ready to go .tex for beginners"
  
  
  Some thoughs:
  
  - to move "page break section" from Part I section 5.5
  
    to something like Part III 11.x
  
  - Once the translation finished, to simplify some explanations.
  
  
  
  Garulfo
  

Thanks for the translation.
For now I went through 1/10 of the
document and I have comments. To whom should I send them?
Personally for a introductory manual I
would prefer the presentation of Joaquín with less colours and a
little bigger type. The notes would be better at the bottom of
the page, like in Joaquín document, because they are very long.
But the translation is really needed
for ease of use for French speakers. Thanks again.
--
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern for Esperanto

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
I forgot to write that I am ready to
answer your questions.
(En Esperanto one avoids to write the
dates as numbers, because the users do not all understand the
same way: 3/9/2021 is it third of September or ninth of March?)
  
Alain

Le 22/02/2021 à 17:26, Tomas Hala a
  écrit :


  Hi Alain,

in my email, I used official language codes: be=Belarussian, bg=Bulgarian, sr=Serbian.

The \installlanguage command is very important because it contains
definitions of the most frequently used typographic elements of the 
given language, for details see below.

Looking forward for both lang-txt files. The sooner you will send it, the better.

The best,

Tomáš

Mon, Feb 22, 2021 ve 03:01:41PM +0100 Alain Delmotte napsal(a):
#Hi Tomáš,
# 
#Thanks for your message.
# 
#First which country is "be"? If Belgium, pay attention that there are
#three languages: Dutch (Flemish) French (a little bit different from
#France French) and German (1% of the population).
# 
#Could you explain me the meaning of:
# 
#Le 21/02/2021 à 23:48, Tomas Hala a écrit :
# 
#  And this one is also needed:
# 
#  #  \installlanguage
#  #    [\s!esperanto]
#  #    [\c!spacing=\v!packed,
#  #     %\c!leftsentence=\emdash,
#  #     %\c!rightsentence=\emdash,
#  #     %\c!leftsubsentence=\emdash,
#  #     %\c!rightsubsentence=\emdash,
#  #     %\c!leftquote=\lowerleftdoubleninequote,
#  #     %\c!rightquote=\upperrightdoublesixquote,
#  #     %\c!leftquotation=\lowerleftdoubleninequote,
#  #     %\c!rightquotation=\upperrightdoublesixquote,
#  #     %\c!date={\v!year,~m.,\space,\v!month,\space,\v!day,~d.},
#  #     \s!patterns=eo,
#  #     \s!lefthyphenmin=2,
#  #     \s!righthyphenmin=2]

Values for \installlanguage:

* spacing: packed means no difference between interword and intersentence spaces.
* (left|right)sentence: punctuation marks -- very often dashes -- for included parts in some sentences.
* (left|right)quotation: definition of primary quotation marks. 
* (left|right)quote: definition of secondary (nested) quotation marks.
* (left|right)hyphenmin: number of characters at the end of a line and at the beginning of the next line when the word is hyphenated.
* date: how the date should be typically typeset: order, spacing, or other signs or abbreviation or texts.

Those I do not know for eo, have been marked with a percent sign.

#I have seen that the \lowerleftdoubleninequote,... are sometimes given by
#the character itself “ ”,...
#For the date, is it the order of the part of the date yyy mm dd?
# 
#I did prepare the file lang-txt.lua and did send it to two friends for
#checking, I wait for their answer (I hope not to long).
# 
#I also have the pattern for hyphenation, the one from TeXLive uses
#fonctions to shorten the length of the file.
# 
#For French, I'll do it and send it to you.
# 
#Thanks for taking care of this.
# 
#  Regards,
# 
#Alain


  


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Re: [NTG-context] How to reduce the inter-item space

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Thanks for the link to the post.
Alain

Le 26/02/2021 à 19:57, Aditya Mahajan a
  écrit :


  On Fri, 26 Feb 2021, Alain Delmotte wrote:


  

Thanks, that answered all my requirements.

  
  
This post illustrates the effect of each keyword for spacing:

https://adityam.github.io/context-blog/post/spacing-in-itemize/


  
I suppose that the rule "not mixing keywords and assignment in the same
argument" is valid for all setups having multiples commands.

  
  
Yes, there are no commands in ConTeXt where keyword and assignments are mixed in the options.

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Re: [NTG-context] How to reduce the inter-item space

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Thanks, that answered all my
requirements.
I suppose that the rule "not mixing
keywords and assignment in the same argument" is valid for all
setups having multiples commands.
Thanks,
Alain

Le 25/02/2021 à 23:46, Wolfgang
  Schuster a écrit :

Alain
  Delmotte schrieb am 25.02.2021 um 22:48:
  
  Hi!


I am trying to reduce the space inter two items in a
\start...\stopitemize.


I did setup in the beginning of the file:


\setupitemize[joinedup,packed,leftmargin=2em]



but I find that the inter-item space is too big for what I want
to create.


Is it possible to reduce that space?

  
  
  
  You can't put keywords and assignments in the same argument of a
  setup command, use separate arguments for each of them and it
  works.
  
  
  \setupitemize [each] [joinedup,packed] [leftmargin=2em]
  
  
  Wolfgang
  
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Re: [NTG-context] How to reduce the inter-item space

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This is ok.
There is still space before the items'
block. This could be handy.
Thanks,
Alain

Le 25/02/2021 à 23:17, jbf a écrit :


  
  Or maybe 
  
  inbetween={\blank[small]}
  Julian
  
  
  On 26/2/21 8:48 am, Alain Delmotte
wrote:
  
  

Hi!
I am trying to reduce the space
inter two items in a \start...\stopitemize.
I did setup in the beginning of
the file:
\setupitemize[joinedup,packed,leftmargin=2em]

  but I find that the inter-item space is too big for what I
  want to create.
Is it possible to reduce
  that space?


Thanks,


--
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Re: [NTG-context] How to reduce the inter-item space

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This partly helps, because it suppress
the space before the items (first level) and the lines are at
the margin and there is still space between a first and a second
level itemize.
Thanks,
Alain

Le 25/02/2021 à 23:07, jbf a écrit :


  
  Check https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Enumerations
Would \setupitemize[nowhite] help?
  Julian
  On 26/2/21 8:48 am, Alain Delmotte
wrote:
  
  

Hi!
I am trying to reduce the space
inter two items in a \start...\stopitemize.
I did setup in the beginning of
the file:
\setupitemize[joinedup,packed,leftmargin=2em]

  but I find that the inter-item space is too big for what I
  want to create.
Is it possible to reduce
  that space?


Thanks,


--
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[NTG-context] How to reduce the inter-item space

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi!
I am trying to reduce the space inter
two items in a \start...\stopitemize.
I did setup in the beginning of the
file:
\setupitemize[joinedup,packed,leftmargin=2em]

  but I find that the inter-item space is too big for what I want to
  create.
Is it possible to reduce
  that space?


Thanks,


--
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Re: [NTG-context] Questions for eTABLE

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi!
Thanks for your rapid answer.
  
Thanks Wolfgang, in the example you
did send me I overlooked the difference between the title line
and the rest.
Thanks also for the explanation about
right and left.
--
Alain

Le 22/02/2021 à 20:09, Wolfgang
  Schuster a écrit :


  
  Alain Delmotte schrieb am 22.02.2021 um 19:58:
  

Hi!
I have the following program:


\definecolor
  [tableheader] [x=00ADEF]
 
\setupbodyfont[dejavu,10pt,ss]
 
%
  setups and example thanks to Wolfgang Schuster 
\startsetups[tablesettings]

  \setupTABLE[start][framecolor=gray,loffset=.5ex,roffset=.5ex]

\setupTABLE[row][first][background="">

  \setupTABLE[first][first][corner=08]

  \setupTABLE[last][first][corner=05]

  \setupTABLE[first][last][corner=07]

  \setupTABLE[last][last][corner=06]
\stopsetups
 
\starttext
 
{\bf
  Singular}

  \setupTABLE[c][1,2,3][width=5cm]
\placetable[none][]{}{
\bTABLE[setups=tablesettings]
\bTR
  \bTH Pronoun \eTH \bTH Particle \eTH \bTH Noun \eTH \eTR
\bTR
  \bTH Mimi/Wewe/Yeye \eTH \bTH ni \eTH \bTH Mtanzania/Mmarekani
  /Mkenya \eTH \eTR
\bTR
  \bTH {\sl I/You/He or She} \eTH \bTH {\sl am/are/is} \eTH \bTH
  {\sl (a/an) Tanzanian/American/Kenyan} \eTH \eTR
\bTR
  \bTH Mimi/Wewe/Yeye \eTH \bTH si\eTH \bTH Mtanzania/Mmarekani
  /Mkenya \eTH \eTR
\bTR
  \bTH {\sl I/You/He or She} \eTH \bTH {\sl am/are/is not} \eTH
  \bTH {\sl (a/an) Tanzanian/American /Kenyan} \eTH \eTR
\eTABLE
}
\input
  zapf
 
\stoptext


 
I do not understand why
  the lines in Swahilli are in bold?
  
  
  Use \bTD ... \eTD for the cells. The \bTH ... \eTH pair is for
  header lines and changes the style to bold.
  
  If
for the table I use \setupTABLE[c]1,2,3][width= 5cm, align=left]
the texts are aligned to the right, if I say align=right they
are to the left. OK to have left alignment the align instruction
is not necessary, but for right?
  
  
  https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Right_and_left
  
  Wolfgang
  

  


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[NTG-context] Questions for eTABLE

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi!
I have the following program:


\definecolor [tableheader] [x=00ADEF]


\setupbodyfont[dejavu,10pt,ss]


% setups and example thanks to Wolfgang Schuster

\startsetups[tablesettings]
\setupTABLE[start][framecolor=gray,loffset=.5ex,roffset=.5ex]
\setupTABLE[row][first][background="">
\setupTABLE[first][first][corner=08]
\setupTABLE[last][first][corner=05]
\setupTABLE[first][last][corner=07]
\setupTABLE[last][last][corner=06]
\stopsetups


\starttext


{\bf Singular}
 \setupTABLE[c][1,2,3][width=5cm]
\placetable[none][]{}{
\bTABLE[setups=tablesettings]
\bTR \bTH Pronoun \eTH \bTH Particle \eTH \bTH Noun \eTH \eTR
\bTR \bTH Mimi/Wewe/Yeye \eTH \bTH ni \eTH \bTH Mtanzania/Mmarekani /Mkenya \eTH \eTR
\bTR \bTH {\sl I/You/He or She} \eTH \bTH {\sl am/are/is} \eTH \bTH {\sl (a/an) Tanzanian/American/Kenyan} \eTH \eTR
\bTR \bTH Mimi/Wewe/Yeye \eTH \bTH si\eTH \bTH Mtanzania/Mmarekani /Mkenya \eTH \eTR
\bTR \bTH {\sl I/You/He or She} \eTH \bTH  {\sl am/are/is not} \eTH \bTH {\sl (a/an) Tanzanian/American /Kenyan} \eTH \eTR
\eTABLE
}
\input zapf


\stoptext




I do not understand why the lines in Swahilli are in bold?


If for the table I use \setupTABLE[c]1,2,3][width= 5cm, align=left] the texts are aligned to the right, if I say align=right they are to the left. OK to have left alignment the align instruction is not necessary, but for right?


Thanks for you help!


--
Alain


  

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern for Esperanto

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi Tomáš,
Thanks for your message.
First which country is "be"? If Belgium, pay attention that there
  are three languages: Dutch (Flemish) French (a little bit
  different from France French) and German (1% of the population).
Could you explain me the meaning of:

Le 21/02/2021 à 23:48, Tomas Hala a
  écrit :


  And this one is also needed:

#  \installlanguage
#    [\s!esperanto]
#    [\c!spacing=\v!packed,
#     %\c!leftsentence=\emdash,
#     %\c!rightsentence=\emdash,
#     %\c!leftsubsentence=\emdash,
#     %\c!rightsubsentence=\emdash,
#     %\c!leftquote=\lowerleftdoubleninequote,
#     %\c!rightquote=\upperrightdoublesixquote,
#     %\c!leftquotation=\lowerleftdoubleninequote,
#     %\c!rightquotation=\upperrightdoublesixquote,
#     %\c!date={\v!year,~m.,\space,\v!month,\space,\v!day,~d.},
#     \s!patterns=eo,
#     \s!lefthyphenmin=2,
#     \s!righthyphenmin=2]


I have seen that the \lowerleftdoubleninequote,... are sometimes
  given by the character itself “ ”,...
  For the date, is it the order of the part of the date yyy mm dd?

I did prepare the file lang-txt.lua and did send it to two
  friends for checking, I wait for their answer (I hope not to
  long).
I also have the pattern for hyphenation, the one from TeXLive
  uses fonctions to shorten the length of the file.
For French, I'll do it and send it to you.
Thanks for taking care of this.

 Regards,
Alain


  


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Re: [NTG-context] How to improve visually a table

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  

Le 16/02/2021 à 21:31, Wolfgang
  Schuster a écrit :


  
  Alain Delmotte schrieb am 16.02.2021 um 21:00:
  

Le 16/02/2021 à 20:02, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :

  
  Alain Delmotte schrieb am 16.02.2021 um 19:23:
  

Hi!
I am progressing in the use of
ConTeXt by applying it to some specific projects.
  
For two manuals I am preparing
for myself I'd like to reproduce the original work.
What I'd like to have:

What I have so far:


How to obtain the first?
  
  
  Can you show your code for the table.
  
  Wolfgang
  

Here it is, but I did it to have a sufficiently good table,
  as I didn't know how to recreate the original.
\placetable[none,here]{}{
\starttabulate[|i1Slw(20mm)|i1Slp(20mm)|i1lp(7cm)|]
\DB
  espéranto \NC {\bf exemple} \NC {\bf équivalent en
  français}\NR\TB
\NC
  {\bs g} \NC {\bs g}azeto, {\bs g}itaro \NC toujours comme le g
  de gare (jamais comme le j) \NR\HL
\NC
  {\bs c} \NC la{\bs c}a \NC ts, comme dans tsé-tsé \NR\HL
\NC
  {\bs j} \NC {\bs j}es \NC comme le y de yoga ou le ia de piano
  ou le ill de pareil, œil, fouille \NR\HL
\NC
  {\bs s} \NC ta{\bs s}o \NC toujours ss comme dans tasse
  (jamais comme un z) \NR\HL
\NC
  {\bs h} \NC {\bs h}a lo \NC la combinaison ha se prononce
  comme quand on rit : ha !, ha !, ha ! Pareil pour ho : ho !,ho
  !,ho ! et hi : hi !,hi !, hi ! \NR\HL
\stoptabulate

  Thanks for your answer,
  
  
  You achieve better results with natural tables where each cell is
  a \framed block where you have options to add backgrounds colors,
  rounded corners and custom border colors.
  
  Look at the attachment for a example.
  
  Wolfgang
  


Thank you Wolfgang,
I continued to explore the wiki and I
did find the description for the natural table and I did
discover what you are sugesting me. I'll continue to test.
Thanks again,
Alain

  
  

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[NTG-context] How to improve visually a table

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi!
I am progressing in the use of ConTeXt
by applying it to some specific projects.
  
For two manuals I am preparing for
myself I'd like to reproduce the original work.
What I'd like to have:

What I have so far:


How to obtain the first?
Thanks,
Alain



  

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Re: [NTG-context] A not so short introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Thanks Joaquín!
I tried the spanish version but it was
too hard.
Best wishes to all for 2021!
Alain
Le 3/01/2021 à 10:45, Joaquín Ataz
  López a écrit :

Hello to
  all:
  
  
  Two months ago I informed to the list that I had written an
  introduction in Spanish to ConTeXt Mark IV. This interested
  several people, and in order to increase their potential audience,
  a member of this list (native English speaker) has proceeded to
  translate my text into English.
  
  
  It is precisely the members of this list who need no introduction
  at all, but it can sometimes be useful to help someone get started
  with the fascinating typesetting system that is ConTeXt.
  
  
  As for the English translation, I have made some small changes to
  the Spanish version, so anyone who understands Spanish and prefers
  to read it in its original language can download the new version:
  
  
  Both versions are available at the following links
  
  
  - Spanish: https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX_esp.pdf
  
  
  - Engilish: https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX_eng.pdf
  
  
  Soon I will send both texts, with their source files, to the
  documentation section of the CTAN repository.
  
  
  

  


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Re: [NTG-context] Math align not working

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi Johann,
The 4 is right aligned, but for this
column you have two position in the second and one in the first.
You could try ~4 and it will align
with 10.
Best regards,
Alain

Le 29/12/2020 à 22:27, Johann Birnick a
  écrit :


  Hi Otared,

I'm using the same version. The problem is the "right"-alignment. See the 4 on
the right side. It should be right-aligned. I attached my pdf.

Best regards,
Johann


On Tue, 2020-12-29 at 21:37 +0100, Otared Kavian wrote:

  
Hi Johann,

The example you sent works fine here with LMTX version 2020.12.28 01:41.
Which version of ConTeXt are you using ?

Best regards: Otared



  On 29 Dec 2020, at 14:36, Johann Birnick  wrote:

Hi there,

I noticed that Math align is not working properly. In particular I mean the
alignment. For example, the following code


\starttext  
   

\startformula \startalign[m=2,distance=8em,n=5,
align={right,middle,middle,middle,left}]
\NC 0 \NC < \NC 2x + 5y \NC < \NC 10
\NC 4 \NC < \NC 3x + y \NC < \NC 9 \NR
\NC 3 \NC < \NC 2y + 3z \NC < \NC 15
\NC 10\NC < \NC 8y + 5z \NC < \NC 20 \NR
\stopalign \stopformula

\stoptext


is copied from https://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf but doesn't
produce the intended result.

What's wrong?

Best regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern for Esperanto

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi Hans and Mojca,
I join a file containing the list of
patterns for Esperanto and the definition/translation of the
general words for titles, glossaries,...
In fact there is a file for Esperanto
in:
  
C:\Users\Alain\context-lmlx\tex\texmf-context\tex\context\patterns\mkiv\lang-eo.lua
  
So it has been in mkiv.
Now regarding the labels, how could I
provide the translations? Should I add a line with translation
for each term (or the most important, I have seen that the
French labels are not all translated)?
Thanks, regards,
Alain
  
Le 14/10/2020 à 18:40, Hans Hagen a
  écrit :

On
  10/14/2020 5:36 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote: 
  Dear Mojca, 

I did just repond to the message without remarking that I was
only answering to you; I'll take care inthe future. 

I'll check if the two list are the same, after expanding the
condensed one. And after I'll go to Hans. 
  
  
  As Mojca pointed out, we need to setup a language: 
  
  % Artificial Languages: Esperanto 
  
  \installlanguage 
    [\s!esperanto] 
    [%\c!spacing=\v!packed, 
     %\c!leftsentence=\emdash, 
     %\c!rightsentence=\emdash, 
     %\c!leftsubsentence=\emdash, 
     %\c!rightsubsentence=\emdash, 
     %\c!leftquote=\lowerleftdoubleninequote, 
     %\c!rightquote=\upperrightdoublesixquote, 
     %\c!leftquotation=\lowerleftdoubleninequote, 
     %\c!rightquotation=\upperrightdoublesixquote, 
     %\c!date={\v!year,~m.,\space,\v!month,\space,\v!day,~d.}, 
     \s!patterns=eo, 
     \s!lefthyphenmin=2, 
     \s!righthyphenmin=2] 
  
  apart from labels as in lang-txt.lua because otherwise it's not
  that useful to have it I guess. 
  
  Hans 
  
  Alain 

Le 14/10/2020 à 13:16, Mojca Miklavec a écrit : 
Dear Alain, 
  
  Yes, I'm aware of the differences, but ConTeXt is not ready to
  read 
  patterns in the cryptic format. 
  (If the two sets of patterns are not equivalent, there's
  something 
  that needs fixing.) 
  
  Please be proactive on the list (chatting offline with me
  won't help 
  that much) and just try to convince Hans to add those
  patterns, or ask 
  him what you need to do in order to end up with patterns
  supported in 
  ConTeXt out of the box. 
  
  Mojca 
  
  On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 21:50, Alain Delmotte 
   
  wrote: 
  Hi Mojca, 

The pattern in TeXlive as I described (from hyph-eo.tex)
makes the list a littlebit  more compact: instead of 

1a2do, 1a2doj, 1a2dojn, 1a2don one write \nom{1a2d},
otherwise it looks the same (I didn't check the details). 

So I'll wait for the demand of Hans!! 

Alain 

Le 12/10/2020 à 16:38, Mojca Miklavec a écrit : 

Dear Alain, 

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 13:44, Alain Delmotte wrote: 

I'd like to have hyphenation for Esperanto; it doesn't exist
in ConTeXt but exist in TeX/LaTeX. 

Would it be difficult to create the Esperanto file for
ConTeXt? 

The plain text version is already in the correct form: 

https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/patterns/txt/hyph-eo.pat.txt
so it should be just a matter of Hans including the patterns
in the 
distribution. 

Usually he asks for translations of basic strings (like
"Chapter" 
etc.) when adding support for a new language ;) 

Mojca 
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Re: [NTG-context] Using ConTeXt to create dictionnaries

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Thanks Arthur!
Regards,
Alain

Le 20/12/2020 à 13:34, Arthur
  Reutenauer a écrit :


  On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 09:55:59PM +0100, Alain Delmotte wrote:

  
   One of the presentations was the use of ConTeXt (mkiv?) to create a
   dictionary. I think for a linguistic edition using a data base and ConTeXt
   to create the final edition.

  
  
  That was by Jelle Huisman; the conference proceedings were published
in TUGboat: http://tug.org/TUGboat/tb30-3/tb96huisman.pdf

	Best,

		Arthur
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[NTG-context] Update for old computers

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi!

When there is an update of lmtx, is it for all versions
(Windows, Linux and x32 and x64)?
I have an old laptop running Linux (16.04) but it is x86 32bits.
I can use it for lmtx, even it this one is not updated as
regularly as the Windowsx64 on my main computer.
I just want to know when I should update the Linux version.

Thanks for your work Hans.

Regards,

Alain
  

  

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[NTG-context] Using ConTeXt to create dictionnaries

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi!

In 2009 I did participate to EuroTeX. This was the year when
TeXworks was presented.
One of the presentations was the use
of ConTeXt (mkiv?) to create a dictionary. I think for a
linguistic edition using a data base and ConTeXt to create the
final edition.

Is it possible to have some details and, if possible, some
contacts; a friend is interested in this system for the edition
of dictionaries (en Esperanto).

Thanks for the information.

Regards,

Alain

  

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern for Esperanto

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Dear Mojca,
I did just repond to the message
without remarking that I was only answering to you; I'll take
care inthe future.
I'll check if the two list are the
same, after expanding the condensed one. And after I'll go to
Hans.
Alain

Le 14/10/2020 à 13:16, Mojca Miklavec a
  écrit :


  Dear Alain,

Yes, I'm aware of the differences, but ConTeXt is not ready to read
patterns in the cryptic format.
(If the two sets of patterns are not equivalent, there's something
that needs fixing.)

Please be proactive on the list (chatting offline with me won't help
that much) and just try to convince Hans to add those patterns, or ask
him what you need to do in order to end up with patterns supported in
ConTeXt out of the box.

Mojca

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 21:50, Alain Delmotte
 wrote:

  

Hi Mojca,

The pattern in TeXlive as I described (from hyph-eo.tex) makes the list a littlebit  more compact: instead of

1a2do, 1a2doj, 1a2dojn, 1a2don one write \nom{1a2d}, otherwise it looks the same (I didn't check the details).

So I'll wait for the demand of Hans!!

Alain

Le 12/10/2020 à 16:38, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

Dear Alain,

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 at 13:44, Alain Delmotte wrote:

I'd like to have hyphenation for Esperanto; it doesn't exist in ConTeXt but exist in TeX/LaTeX.

Would it be difficult to create the Esperanto file for ConTeXt?

The plain text version is already in the correct form:
https://github.com/hyphenation/tex-hyphen/blob/master/hyph-utf8/tex/generic/hyph-utf8/patterns/txt/hyph-eo.pat.txt
so it should be just a matter of Hans including the patterns in the
distribution.

Usually he asks for translations of basic strings (like "Chapter"
etc.) when adding support for a new language ;)

Mojca
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[NTG-context] Hyphenation pattern for Esperanto

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi! 
  
I'd like to have hyphenation for
Esperanto; it doesn't exist in ConTeXt but exist in TeX/LaTeX.
Looking to the files, the French
hyphenation files for LaTeX and ConTeXt looks very much the
same. But for Esperanto there is a difference at the beginning:

  
--
\begingroup
% Makrooj por la finaĵoj:
\def\adj#1{#1a. #1aj. #1ajn. #1an. #1e.}
\edef\nom#1{\adj{#1} #1o. #1oj. #1ojn. #1on.}
\def\ver#1{#1as. #1i. #1is. #1os. #1u. #1us.}
%
\patterns{
a1 e1 i1 o1 u1   % ebligu tranĉon post la vokaloj,
2aj. 2ajn. 2an. 2as. % krom se antaŭ finaĵo,
-
The comments are in Esperanto. The
definition \adj, \nom and \ver are for adjectives, names and
verbs and are used in the file as:

% AĈ
\nom{1a2ĉ}
% AD:
\nom{1a2d} \ver{1a2d}
.avok2a3d .bal2a3d ĉokol2a3d .fas2a3d .inv2a3d kamar2a3d
.kan2a3d limon2a3d
persv2a3d .pom2a3d seren2a3d
% AĴ:
\nom{1a2ĵ}
% ALT-

Would it be difficult to create the Esperanto file for ConTeXt?
Thanks for your help and for ConTeXt.
Regards,
Alain Delmotte
  

  


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[NTG-context] Running context-lmtx on Linux

[Alain Delmotte]

  
  
Hi!
I am coming back to ConTeXt after some
years; but lately I did find a funny introduction to ConTeXt in
French based on context-lmtx (http://www.lesfichesabebert.fr/).
I did install it for Windows-64, added
the reference to the context folders under TeXworks, re-difined
the Context command and everything went OK.
I did want to do the same on an old
portable computer running lubuntu 16.04 (it's a 32 bits machine
with small disk and RAM). I followed all the steps to install
it. But this didn't work neither in the console (I get the
message "Le programme « context » n'est pas encore installé.
Vous pouvez l'installer en tapant: sudo apt install context" -
but this, I suppose will install the context from the linux
distribution) , nor under TeXworks (message: "startup error: no
format file given, quitting".
Is there a solution? Or my system is
too old?
Thanks for your attention and for your
help.
Regards,
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Re: [NTG-context] External figures from other folders

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

Le 4/02/2013 15:39, Mari Voipio a écrit :


One more trick: ConTeXt will first look for a pic in current
directory, then proceed to check out the others defined by
\setupexternalfigures.
When I worked with a master file and its translations where some
figures had translated text and others didn't, I dumped the translated
pics in the same directory with my translated tex file, while all the
untouched graphics could be found at the root. So when I compiled e.g.
the Swedish tex file, it would first look for graphics in its own
directory 'swedish', and only if a graphic could not be found, it
followed the paths set by \setupexternalfigures.


You were compiling the Swedish tex file from the Swedish 
directory or from the master directory (where the master 
file was)?
In other words: the compilation of the Swedish text was 
called from?? the master file? or the Swedish tex file itself?


Alain


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Re: [NTG-context] External figures from other folders

[Alain Delmotte]

Thanks for the detailed explanation, Mari.

Regards,

Alain

Le 4/02/2013 17:07, Mari Voipio a écrit :

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Alain Delmotte espera...@swing.be wrote:

When I worked with a master file and its translations where some
figures had translated text and others didn't, I dumped the translated
pics in the same directory with my translated tex file, while all the
untouched graphics could be found at the root. So when I compiled e.g.
the Swedish tex file, it would first look for graphics in its own
directory 'swedish', and only if a graphic could not be found, it
followed the paths set by \setupexternalfigures.



You were compiling the Swedish tex file from the Swedish directory or from
the master directory (where the master file was)?
In other words: the compilation of the Swedish text was called from?? the
master file? or the Swedish tex file itself?


Background: at that point of time I couldn't figure out about project
structures. And I drew my flow charts in CorelDraw, hadn't taught
myself that, either. :-)

NB. This is a bit simplified example of how things went, the real
thing contains more directories and subdirectories, but those are not
important to explain my idea.


What I had is a directory structure like this

PR-23
  PR-23/swedish
  PR-23/portuguese
  PR-23/spanish
  PR-23/german

It all started with a single-language project, language subdirectories
got added over time when translations turned out to be of essence.
[PR-23 is the name of the product for which the document is written.]

To illustrate the system with graphics, let's say that the main
directory PR-23 contained a flowchart called flow_troubles.pdf and a
wiring picture wrg-366.pdf.
Wiring drawings are never translated, so every manual version uses the
same graphic.
On the other hand, the flow chart needs to be translated for every
language version. I did that by copying the English original (Corel
Draw graphic) into the language folder, then translating, saving and
exporting as pdf in that (sub)directory. The result is that both e.g.
the subdirectory swedish and the main directory PR-23 would contain a
graphic called flow_troubles.pdf, but the one in the subfolder would
be in Swedish.

Then, if I needed a Swedish manual, I needed to go into subfolder
Swedish and compile the main .tex file there. At the beginning of that
file I had the command \setupexternalfigures[directory=../]. When the
compilation came to wrg-366.pdf, the graphic could not be found in the
same directory, so ConTeXt went one step up as instructed and picked
up the wiring drawing there. Later when compilation would get as far
to flow_troubles.pdf, ConTeXt would look in the working directory
'swedish', find it there and pick up that one and *stop looking for
that graphic*. Ergo, because the Swedish one could be found first, the
existence of the English version in the search path is not a problem.


This way I didn't need to change the names of my graphics nor my code.
It was also handy when translations arrived in batches; I translated
the graphics one by one and could always compile a proper looking
document, first with all graphics in English, then some in the target
language, finally fully translated - and still, if a new version of
the wiring drawing turned up, I only had to update the master
directory and then remember to compile the translations to get the
changes in.



One more thing to remember is that I really do product manuals and
they are always in fluctuation - there's no final version of the
manual until the production of that particular model has ceased. Thus
years have taught me to avoid duplicate information to utmost, because
the more places to update because of a minor change, the more likely
it is to forget at least one of them. Been there, done that...
[When I switched to ConTeXt, each manual version was a separate MS
Word document. To update a wiring drawing, I had to open each version,
import the drawing to replace the old one, then save and close. And
hope for the best, switching figures in Word wasn't always that
straight forward, ConTeXt is definitely more predictable.]


Mari
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible inconsistency in the use of paragraphs in ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi again,

OK I just updated context, asking for all modules, and now I 
don't have any more error.


Thanks,

Alain

Le 1/02/2013 04:58, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :


Am 31.01.2013 um 23:02 schrieb Keith J. Schultz
keithjschu...@web.de mailto:keithjschu...@web.de:


Hi Wolfgang,

You do seem to understand what I am getting at!

I purposely put paragraph in quotes. because the
environment that I have suggest was
one that had setups for bodyfont, color, indenting etc.
and one can just like the headers
have control over them.


\startsetups[paragraph:german]
   \language[german]
\stopsetups

\startsetups[paragraph:double]
   \setupinterlinespace[big]
\stopsetups

\startsetups[paragraph:indenting]
   \setupindenting[yes,medium]
\stopsetups

\defineparagraph[german][setups=paragraph:german]
\defineparagraph[big]   [setups=paragraph:double]
\defineparagraph[indent][setups=paragraph:indenting]
\defineparagraph[red]   [color=red]
\defineparagraph[italic][style=italic]

\setupwhitespace[line]

\starttext

\startparagraph
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[german]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[big]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[indent]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[red]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[italic]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\stoptext


Furthermore, you have stated on the on the 30th:


ConTeXt provides also a paragraph environment but this
add only tags when you export the document
as XML or create a tagged PDF.

The paragraphs (note the s) environment has a Hans
already mentioned nothing to do with paragraphs,
it just puts the content on columns where each column can
con tai multiple paragraphs. The name
for the environment is misleading because columns is
already taken as name.


Thank you anyway. I will look into creating what I need on
my own. I already have an idea.
Just need to figure out the implementation.


You can use \definestartsetup or \definebuffer to create
your own environments.

Wolfgang



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Re: [NTG-context] Possible inconsistency in the use of paragraphs in ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi Wolfgang,

Using MkIV, version 2013.01.24 i get an error about 
\defineparagraph:


! Undefined control sequence.

system   tex  error on line 25 in file first.tex: 
Undefined control sequence ...


[...]
24
25   \defineparagraph[german][setups=paragraph:german]
26 \defineparagraph[big]   [setups=paragraph:double]
[...]
l.25 \defineparagraph
 [german][setups=paragraph:german]
?
! Emergency stop.

Thanks for all the answers you, patiently, give to newbies.

Regards,

Alain


Le 1/02/2013 04:58, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :


Am 31.01.2013 um 23:02 schrieb Keith J. Schultz
keithjschu...@web.de mailto:keithjschu...@web.de:


Hi Wolfgang,

You do seem to understand what I am getting at!

I purposely put paragraph in quotes. because the
environment that I have suggest was
one that had setups for bodyfont, color, indenting etc.
and one can just like the headers
have control over them.


\startsetups[paragraph:german]
   \language[german]
\stopsetups

\startsetups[paragraph:double]
   \setupinterlinespace[big]
\stopsetups

\startsetups[paragraph:indenting]
   \setupindenting[yes,medium]
\stopsetups

\defineparagraph[german][setups=paragraph:german]
\defineparagraph[big]   [setups=paragraph:double]
\defineparagraph[indent][setups=paragraph:indenting]
\defineparagraph[red]   [color=red]
\defineparagraph[italic][style=italic]

\setupwhitespace[line]

\starttext

\startparagraph
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[german]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[big]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[indent]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[red]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[italic]
\input reich
\stopparagraph

\stoptext


Furthermore, you have stated on the on the 30th:


ConTeXt provides also a paragraph environment but this
add only tags when you export the document
as XML or create a tagged PDF.

The paragraphs (note the s) environment has a Hans
already mentioned nothing to do with paragraphs,
it just puts the content on columns where each column can
con tai multiple paragraphs. The name
for the environment is misleading because columns is
already taken as name.


Thank you anyway. I will look into creating what I need on
my own. I already have an idea.
Just need to figure out the implementation.


You can use \definestartsetup or \definebuffer to create
your own environments.

Wolfgang



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Re: [NTG-context] Possible inconsistency in the use of paragraphs in ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

First I would like to ask not to change messages' subject if 
you want to see another point.
Changing subject breaks the normal links of threads, further 
it becomes very difficult to find a message embedded in 
another subject.

For a new subject create a new message/thread.

I also search for documentation, especially to understand 
the philosophy of ConTeXt.
I did find the thread From LaTeX to ConTeXt very 
interesting because, even if you do not know LaTeX, the 
steps to obtain certain results are well described, often in 
many steps more and more professional.


Good ConTeXting,

Alain Delmotte

Le 30/01/2013 10:00, Keith J. Schultz a écrit :

Hi Everybody,

Thank you for your help with the documentation.

Inorder to teach myself ConTeXt I have to decided to write a
learning by doing manual for ConTeXt.

First off, I know I can get the formatting needed,
by using defineparagraph and setupparagraphs, but then
have I have to use start/stop-myparagraph, etc. .

  Well, I wanted format my normal paragraphs.
Following, the standard way of doing things in ConTeX, as
with headers and wanted to use setupparagraphs.

The problem want is the name of the standard(default) paragraph.
I have not found any. Is there a name for it.

As example lets take I want to have a little space between my paragraph.

MWE

\setupwhitespace{medium]

\startext

paragraph 1

paragraph 1

\stoptext

What I would like is to do:

MNWE:

\setuparagraphs[][][before={\setupwhitespace{medium]]
%% or
%% \setuparagraphs[][][before=\bigskip]
\startext

paragraph 1

paragraph 1

\stoptext

In other words there is no way, that I can find to globally set standard 
paragraphs!!

The same goes for indenting of paragraphs. Yes, Yes there are the standard 
indenting commands.

I feel though one should be able to use setupparagraphs for this.

Also, it took me awhile to find the setupwhitespace command, because for me 
whitespace can be
either horizontal or vertical. I think it would be better to rename it to 
setupparagraphspacing or something
like that. Or at least define a synonym for it. This would make things easier 
for the casual or beginning user.

Maybe I am missing something. Ideas welcome.

regards
Keith.

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Re: [NTG-context] Possible inconsistency in the use of paragraphs in ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

I forgot to give the link :
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/From_LaTeX_to_ConTeXt

Alain

Le 30/01/2013 16:07, Alain Delmotte a écrit :

Hi,

First I would like to ask not to change messages' subject if
you want to see another point.
Changing subject breaks the normal links of threads, further
it becomes very difficult to find a message embedded in
another subject.
For a new subject create a new message/thread.

I also search for documentation, especially to understand
the philosophy of ConTeXt.
I did find the thread From LaTeX to ConTeXt very
interesting because, even if you do not know LaTeX, the
steps to obtain certain results are well described, often in
many steps more and more professional.

Good ConTeXting,

Alain Delmotte

Le 30/01/2013 10:00, Keith J. Schultz a écrit :

Hi Everybody,

Thank you for your help with the documentation.

Inorder to teach myself ConTeXt I have to decided to write a
learning by doing manual for ConTeXt.

First off, I know I can get the formatting needed,
by using defineparagraph and setupparagraphs, but then
have I have to use start/stop-myparagraph, etc. .

  Well, I wanted format my normal paragraphs.
Following, the standard way of doing things in ConTeX, as
with headers and wanted to use setupparagraphs.

The problem want is the name of the standard(default)
paragraph.
I have not found any. Is there a name for it.

As example lets take I want to have a little space between
my paragraph.

MWE

\setupwhitespace{medium]

\startext

paragraph 1

paragraph 1

\stoptext

What I would like is to do:

MNWE:

\setuparagraphs[][][before={\setupwhitespace{medium]]
%% or
%% \setuparagraphs[][][before=\bigskip]
\startext

paragraph 1

paragraph 1

\stoptext

In other words there is no way, that I can find to
globally set standard paragraphs!!

The same goes for indenting of paragraphs. Yes, Yes there
are the standard indenting commands.

I feel though one should be able to use setupparagraphs
for this.

Also, it took me awhile to find the setupwhitespace
command, because for me whitespace can be
either horizontal or vertical. I think it would be better
to rename it to setupparagraphspacing or something
like that. Or at least define a synonym for it. This would
make things easier for the casual or beginning user.

Maybe I am missing something. Ideas welcome.

regards
Keith.

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Re: [NTG-context] Possible inconsistency in the use of paragraphs in ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Thomas,

It's better not start such a discussion.

When I was younger ( :-) ) I was reacting this way, so I 
understand, but this never helped!!!


Regards to both,
and, Keith, I'd like to see your programming manual when you 
have it ready.


Alain


Le 30/01/2013 19:13, Thomas A. Schmitz a écrit :

On 01/30/2013 07:03 PM, Keith J. Schultz wrote:

I have already seen these. My needs are more
sophisiticated and I need programmers manuals and
no such users manuals.

Thanx

regards
Keioth.


Wow. I think you misspelled your name. And the words thank
you. And you may be too sophisticated for our humble
mailing list.

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Possible inconsistency in the use of paragraphs in ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

Le 30/01/2013 19:49, Thomas A. Schmitz a écrit :

On 01/30/2013 07:42 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:

Thomas,

It's better not start such a discussion.

When I was younger ( :-) ) I was reacting this way, so I
understand, but
this never helped!!!

Regards to both,
and, Keith, I'd like to see your programming manual when
you have it ready.

Alain


OK, Alain, acknowledged. And I'm happy someone thinks I'm
young - will turn 50 this year.


Hu! Being 66 you are a kid :-)

Alain



All best

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Re: [NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi !

Le 28/01/2013 00:39, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:



Set the repository to
  http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2012
and make sure that you don't have ConTeXt distribution in PATH*** when
calling tlmgr.


Ok I did and it seemed to work, at least some files were updated.

But when I compiled I got the same versions' information in the log


The same version of ConTeXt or the same version of LuaTeX?

What do you get with
 luatex --version


The same versions for both context and luatex:
context 28782 20120630
luatex 26690 0.72.2-20120806

When I did update from TeX Live, 6 files were updated, but I 
did take note, unfortunately.


By the way, I have two context.exe in TeX Live in:
c:\texlive\2012\bin\win32
c:\texlive\2012\texmf-dist\scripts\context\stubs\mswin

Testing form the command line, they are the same as noted above.

The one in the standalone are:
LuaTeX, Version beta-0.75.0-201301 (rev 4565)
ConTeXt  ver: 2013.01.24 16:47 MKIV  fmt: 2013.1.25  int: 
english/english



?


By the way, for the stand alone version under TeXworks, the bin folder
information should go before those of TeX Live to avoid problems.


In TeXworks one needs to be careful about paths in either case. (But
then again, there's the same issue with basically any GUI program that
runs TeX. PATH usually needs to be set up separately from the shell.)


My paths are defined in Windows, but with TeXworks they also 
appear in the definition window for the program.

I'll enquire to see if it is possible to suppress those.

Alain



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[NTG-context] Some more question, ex Context an excursion

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

Using MkIV and the latest(?) standalone version.
Continuing Context an excursion!

Thanks for your help,

Alain

1) How to force line jump to avoid overfull \hbox, 
particularly with more or less narrow columns?


2) I did insert \showlayout just before \stoptext and I get 
4 pages with the same information!!!


3) On page 77, I get an error:

\defineparagraphs[city][n=2,before=,after=]
\city Hasselt (Ov) \\ Overijssel \\
\city Hasselt (Li) \\ Limburg\\
\startpacked
\city Hasselt (Ov) \\ The Netherlands \\
\city Hasselt (Li) \\ Belgium \\
\stoppacked
--error message
! Undefined control sequence.

system   tex  error on line 868 in file 
travail.tex: Undefined control sequence ...


858 \blank
859 The affix is a leftover from the times that the 
Netherlands and
860 Belgium were one country under the reign of King 
Philip II of Spain.

861 \blank[2*big]
862 Hasselt in Belgium lies in the province of Limburg. 
One wonders if

863 the Belgian people write Hasselt (Li) on their letters.
864
865 Pour supprimer l'espace pour un bloc, il y a 
\type{\startpacked...\stoppacked}

866
867 \defineparagraphs[city][n=2,before=,after=]
868   \city Hasselt (Ov) \\ Overijssel \\
869 \city Hasselt (Li) \\ Limburg\\
870 \startpacked
871 \city Hasselt (Ov) \\ The Netherlands \\
872 \city Hasselt (Li) \\ Belgium \\
873 \stoppacked
874
875
876
877
878


\stopparagraphscell -\typo_paragraphs_stop_cell
 \let 
\typo_paragraphs_stop_...

\city -\stopparagraphscell
\startparagraphscell
l.868 \city
Hasselt (Ov) \\ Overijssel \\
?


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Re: [NTG-context] Some more question, ex Context an excursion

[Alain Delmotte]

Thanks Wolfgang and sorry for not providing WME.

Alain

Le 27/01/2013 16:50, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :


Am 27.01.2013 um 16:25 schrieb Alain Delmotte espera...@swing.be:


[...]



Make working minimal example of the problems, it takes always time to create 
one first
to check which something fails.


[...]



Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

Le 25/01/2013 23:48, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:



I would suggest you to do the following:
- Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).


I did try this before reinstalling the standalone; but it was refused
because there probably is a pointer to TeX Live 2010 and I have 2012.


Set the repository to
 http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/2012
and make sure that you don't have ConTeXt distribution in PATH*** when
calling tlmgr.


Ok I did and it seemed to work, at least some files were 
updated.


But when I compiled I got the same versions' information in 
the log


But as I can use the standalone, I'll investigate later.

By the way, for the stand alone version under TeXworks, the 
bin folder information should go before those of TeX Live to 
avoid problems.


Regards,

Alain



Mojca


*** From purely theoretical point of view you may have it in path, but
after TeX Live binaries.
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[NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

 I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
 I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems 
mostly because of the lack of documentation for MkIV.
 Having a more or less strong knowledge and experience of 
LaTeX doesn't help!!!


 This time:
 I did not succeed to install a stand alone version. I have 
also TeX Live and I need it for LaTeX.

 I am using TeXworks (not the one from TeX Live).
 I use ConTeX from TeX Live 2012:
 This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.2-2012080612 (TeX Live 
2012/W32TeX)
 ConTeXt  ver: 2012.05.30 11:26 MKIV  fmt: 2013.1.20  int: 
english/english


 Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is 
solution using one of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I 
have a first question: is it possible to update the TeX Live 
ConTeXt and its associated files?


 I also have questions about typography (hyphenation, 
typographic rules,...) to have something according the 
French rules, and others...


 Other questions in another message.

 Thanks for your help,

 Alain Delmotte


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[NTG-context] Some questions

[Alain Delmotte]

 Hi,

 Now some questions to solve the problems I have when I try 
to follow the tutorial ConTeXt an excursion.
 I think it is for mkII and I use mkIV and that there has 
been many changes in between.


 - The example at the bottom of page 11 and page 12 gives 
me an error:

 ! Argument of \head has an extra }.

system   tex  error on line 52 in file 
travail.tex: Argument of  ...


42 Hasselt lies in the province of Overijssel and there 
are a number of customs that are typical of this province.

43 \startitemize
44 \head kraamschudden \hfill (child welcoming)
45 When a child is born the neighbours come to visit the 
new parents. The women come to admire the baby and the men 
come to judge the baby (if it is a boy) if he will become a 
strong man.
46 The neighbours will bring a {\em krentenwegge} along. 
A krentenwegge is a loaf of currant bread of about 1 \Meter\ 
long. Of course the birth is celebrated with {\em jenever}.

47 \head nabuurschap (naberschop) \hfill (neighbourship)
48 Smaller communities used to be very dependent on the 
cooperation among the members for their well being. Members 
of the {\em nabuurschap} helped each other in difficult 
times during harvest times, funerals or any hardship that 
fell upon the community.

49 \head Abraham \ Sarah  \hfill (identical)
50 When people turn 50 in Hasselt it is said that they 
see Abraham or Sarah. The custom is to give these people a 
{\em speculaas} Abraham or a Sarah. Speculaas is a kind of 
hard spiced biscuit.

51 \stopitemize
52 

- The tables pages 30-31-32-35 are not at the right position 
on the page, mostly they are to the right and not centered.


- The chemical formulae give an error (pages 37-38), but 
I'll come back to that later on, but what is the manual 
about it?


- The boxes on page 45, second example are not at the right 
position, particularly the second is on the same line as the 
first.

\leftaligned
{\inframed[width=fit]{People in Hasselt}}
\midaligned
{\inframed[height=1.5cm,frame=off]{have a}}
\rightaligned
{\inframed[background=screen]{historic background}}

What are the up todate manuals for MkIV?

OK It's enough bothering you for the moment.

Thanks in advance,

Alain Delmotte

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Re: [NTG-context] Coming back to ConTeXt

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

Le 25/01/2013 17:14, Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Alain Delmotte wrote:

Hi,

  I decided to give another try to ConTeXt.
  I already did two years ago, I think, but I had problems mostly because of
the lack of documentation for MkIV.
  Having a more or less strong knowledge and experience of LaTeX doesn't
help!!!

  This time:
  I did not succeed to install a stand alone version.


Tell us more about the specific problems.


I did retry everything from the beginning and now it works.
One problem is that there is two bin folder and I was 
first pointing to the wrong one; after that I didn't see the 
context.exe and was trying to use mtxrun.

And of course I did add to the path.

So now it works from a standalone version. (up to date)




  Following the discussions on ntg-context, there often is solution using one
of hte latest version of ConTeXt, so I have a first question: is it possible
to update the TeX Live ConTeXt and its associated files?


I would suggest you to do the following:
- Add tlcontrib to the list of repositories and update luatex and
ConTeXt from there (http://tlcontrib.metatex.org/usage.html).


I did try this before reinstalling the standalone; but it 
was refused because there probably is a pointer to TeX Live 
2010 and I have 2012.



- You can add the latest version of ConTeXt to texmf-local or
$TEXMFHOME (usually $HOME/texmf, but may be set to a different place)
or to some other place. You can clone a git repository
(https://gitorious.org/context) there for example (just make sure that
you don't use one extra directory).
- Apart from that you need to make sure that mtxrun will be taken from
the latest ConTeXt. There are different options to achieve that. (Add
$HOME/bin to PATH and put a symlink or copy of mtxrun there, or any
other option that comes to your mind.)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Some questions

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

Le 25/01/2013 15:47, Marco Patzer a écrit :

On 2013–01–25 Alain Delmotte wrote:

  - The example at the bottom of page 11 and page 12 gives me an
error:
  ! Argument of \head has an extra }.


\starttext
\startitemize
   \starthead kraamschudden\hfill (child welcoming) \stophead

[...]

 Abraham or a Sarah. Speculaas is a kind of hard spiced biscuit.
\stopitemize
\stoptext


Thanks, it works.




- The tables pages 30-31-32-35 are not at the right position on the
page, mostly they are to the right and not centered.


I did not try all example, but this seems to work here. Can you
provide a minimal example and say what you expect to be different?


In another example before, the locations for floats was 
changed to right and so all tables where to the right, 
except the last which had a location=left.



- The chemical formulae give an error (pages 37-38), but I'll come
back to that later on, but what is the manual about it?


Hans and Alan are in the process of completely re-writing the
chemical macros. I don't know the current state.


OK I'll wait


- The boxes on page 45, second example are not at the right
position, particularly the second is on the same line as the first.
\leftaligned
{\inframed[width=fit]{People in Hasselt}}
\midaligned
{\inframed[height=1.5cm,frame=off]{have a}}
\rightaligned
{\inframed[background=screen]{historic background}}


In MkIV there's a new syntax you can use:

\startlinealignment [left]
   \inframed[width=fit]{People in Hasselt}
\stoplinealignment

\startlinealignment [middle]
   \inframed[height=1.5cm,frame=on]{have a}
\stoplinealignment

\startlinealignment [right]
   \inframed[background=screen]{historic background}
\stoplinealignment

I did not investigate why the middle alignment is on the same line
as the left alignment and if that's intended or not.


OK, it works, but I do not get the result of the book, I'll 
investigate.




What are the up todate manuals for MkIV?


I'm afraid there are none (and probably never will be). The wiki
improved an awful lot during the last months, especially the command
reference. There's also the revised manual, tex.stackexchange and of
course the mailing list.


Waiting the book announced by Alan, I'll try to use the wiki 
and existing modified books.


Thanks a lot for your help,

Alain


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Re: [NTG-context] Cut-Space

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi,

Le 25/01/2013 13:30, Marco Patzer a écrit :

On 2013–01–25 H. Özoguz wrote:


How to add 3mm cut space (extra space) on all four edges?


You did not make yourself clear what exactly you want and where to
add the space. Here you find an (incomplete) overview of the page
layout dimensions:



I think what he mean is to have a size a little bit bigger 
than the required format, so one is sure that the page will 
be full.


Example, if you want an image to occupy the top of your page 
from one border of the paper to the other and touching the 
top edge, it is usual for a printer (the man not the 
machine) to have the image protruding left, top and right, 
so when one cut the paper one is sure that the image will 
not leave a tiny white space on one of the side.


Regards,

Alain


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Re: [NTG-context] Grammar

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

Henning Hraban Ramm a écrit :
So, as several other posters already said: It's not the words who are to 
blame, but the speakers and their mind sets...


Let me just add a comment about he/she and the willing of 
the speakers.


In Esperanto, there is
li = he
ŝi = she (same pronunciation)
ĝi = it (pronounce ĝ like j in just : dj)

The neutral is used when you do not specify the gender (like 
speaking about a cat without specifying male or female) or 
when there is no gender (for an object).
But Zamenhof, the initiator of Esperanto, said you also use 
it for young humans, like babies.

So it is a real neutral form.

But people want to keep their own use (the use from their 
language) and only keep ĝi for objects.
(even if, for example in English, one uses she when 
speaking about ones boat!!)

Some other want to have ŝli as neutral.
Other again want to suppress li and ŝi and only have ri.

There is no solution to the problem; any solution will find 
people not agreeing for one or another reason.


But one has to try to avoid discrimination.

Alain

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[NTG-context] new error in Context under Linux

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

I got an new error compiling the example p28-30 of the Excursion with
\startcombination...\stopcombination
!load otf   : file size: 112404
!load otf   : enhancing ...
!load otf   : saving in cache: 
/home/alain/context/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman8-bold.otf

! Argument of \docheckifiteminsetelse has an extra }.
inserted text
   \par
to be read again
  }
\@@kjtabletitle -Use of \type {\setuptables }
 .
\doif #1#2-\edef \!!stringa {#1
   }\edef \!!stringb {#2}\ifx \!!stringa 
\!!str...

\dostructurecountercomponent ...\c!title }\v!none
 {\setfalse 
\hasstructureco...

\docompletefloat ...c!title ={#4},\c!bookmark =][]
 \globallet 
\currentfloatnu...

...
l.420 \stopcombination

?



Thanks,

Alain

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[NTG-context] Error under Ubuntu Lnux

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

I installed Ubuntu 9.10 (in a VMWare Player under Windows)

I also installed the minimals and TeXworks (in the ConTeXt tree).

I run setuptex, TeXworks but then I get an error.
Here information:

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.50.0-2009122419
\write18 enabled.
(/home/alain/Documents/context/premier.tex
ConTeXt  ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV  fmt: 2010.4.1  int: english/english

.../...

For a simple source (created under Linux), here the source and the error:

% a comment

\starttext

This is some text!

\stoptext
--
.../...
fonts   : preloading latin modern fonts
{/home/alain/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/home/alain/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: language en is active
{/home/alain/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
systems : begin file untitled-1.tex at line 3
error: ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spac-ver.lua:610: attempt to 
index field 'spec' (a nil value)
.
l.6 
   
? 
Process interrupted by user


For a longer source (from Windows):
fonts   : preloading latin modern fonts
{/home/alain/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/home/alain/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: language en is active
{/home/alain/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
systems : begin file premier.tex at line 1
error: ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spac-ver.lua:848: attempt to 
index local 'ps' (a nil value)
.
\dosomelistelement ...\relax \fi }\hss }}\endgraf 
 \nointerlineskip \endgraf ...

\dodolistelement ...ement {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}
 \global \utilitydonetrue 
\processlistofstructure ...\fi \fi \fi \endcsname 
 \ctxlua {structure.lists.p...

l.1 \processlistofstructure{section}{section}{1}
   
\placestructurelist ...ts.process(#1,#2,#3)}
 
\doplacecombinedlist ...dlistparameter \c!number }

 \doendoflist \stoplistrefe...
...
l.4 
   
? 
--


Any advice to solve this?

Thanks,

Alain


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Re: [NTG-context] Error under Ubuntu Lnux

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:16, Alain Delmotte wrote:
  

Hi!

I installed Ubuntu 9.10 (in a VMWare Player under Windows)

I also installed the minimals and TeXworks (in the ConTeXt tree).

I run setuptex, TeXworks but then I get an error.
Here information:

This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.50.0-2009122419
\write18 enabled.
(/home/alain/Documents/context/premier.tex
ConTeXt  ver: 2010.03.30 18:56 MKIV  fmt: 2010.4.1  int: english/english



When did you last update the minimals? LuaTeX beta-0.50.0 should not
be there any more.
  
Well! I installed it Thursday 01/04 for the first time (but I confess: I 
didn't update since!!)

But I think Taco gave the answer, I'll wait.

Alain


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Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt book

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

Gour a écrit :

03/04 13:42


Taco The availability of ConTeXt books will not automatically create
Taco more users (nor even automatically create readers, for that
Taco matter).

Hmm, interesting...

If even you think that ConTeXt books are not important (to bring new
users), then no wonder we do not have even a single one...


I think Taco didn't say *at all* that books are not important; he just said 
that the books will not automatically increase the use.

03/04 14:13

However, it might be that ConTeXt prefer to always stay niche-product
and to, as Haskellers say: Avoid success at all costs.” :-)
  
Do you know many software in development for which there are plenty of 
books.


Further the accusation of somes other that Hans is keeping information 
for his work and not documenting it is shocking me.
Hans said that he did develop ConTeXt for *his* work and then opened it 
to others to benefit.
And Hans is working for the ConTeXt users free and would prefer, I 
think, to use his secret!!? tools and go on for his real work.


I also regret that the documentation is not complete and updated for 
mkiv, but mkiv is still in development even if it is operational (but 
Hans suggest to use mkii for professional work).


Many people here who complain about documentation, also quickly say that 
they do not have time to write the asked for book: they have other 
things on the fire!! just... like Hans who is developing ConTeXt and do 
not have time writing documentation.
What is more important: having a very good program and wait for its 
documentation, or a very good documentation and a buggy program???


Thanks to those who develop ConTeXt and answer the questions.

Have a good Eastern time

Alain

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Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt book

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

Gour a écrit :

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:45:51 +0200
  

Alain == Alain Delmotte espera...@swing.be wrote:
  


Alain I think Taco didn't say *at all* that books are not important;
Alain he just said that the books will not automatically increase the
Alain use.

So you think that having book(s) will leave the number of the ConText
users on the same level or maybe decrease it?
  
Can you read a sentence in full and not always cut out what doesn't 
interest you, or should I mark every word as important?
I did write will not automatically, I didn't say that books will leave 
the number of users on the same level.

Alain What is more important: having a very good program and wait for
Alain its documentation, or a very good documentation and a buggy
Alain program???

(user) docs brings new users...
(dev) docs brings new devs...
(some) users become devs...
(more) devs increases bus-factor... 
  

Sure, once you have a full operational system!
(user) docs brings new users who get problems from bugs or 
unfinished program... users drop out! No more devs, no more need for books!!

And the publishers will thing like this!

Alain


Sincerely,
Gour

  



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Re: [NTG-context] Error under Ubuntu Lnux

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi Mojca,

Mojca Miklavec a écrit :

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 11:05, Alain Delmotte wrote:
  

When did you last update the minimals? LuaTeX beta-0.50.0 should not
be there any more.

  

Well! I installed it Thursday 01/04 for the first time (but I confess: I
didn't update since!!)
But I think Taco gave the answer, I'll wait.



You don't need to wait since the latest version should be there since
Thursday the 1st (you installed the minimals a couple of hours too
early :).
  

Thanks I updated and everything is OK.

Have good Easter days,

Alain

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Re: [NTG-context] The ConTeXt book

[Alain Delmotte]

Gour a écrit :

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:03:34 +0200
  

Alain == Alain Delmotte espera...@swing.be wrote:
  


Alain Can you read a sentence in full and not always cut out what
Alain doesn't interest you, or should I mark every word as important?

Excuse me...it's my mistake...I had to enclose my sentence in:

\startirony
...
\endirony

:-)
  

And I get an error for a
\flameoff (without corresponding \flameon)

Regards,

Alain


Sincerely,
Gour

  



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Re: [NTG-context] margin text

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

Robert Blackstone a écrit :

Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:26:19 +0100 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com wrote:

  

blackstone.rob...@gmail.com wrote:


What should I do to get the page in the middle of the paper so to
speak, instead of shifted to the left, which happens with
\setuplayout[location=middle]?? I tried specifying leftedgewidth but
that does not change anything.
  

hm, strange, try

\setuppapersize[A4][A3]
\setuplayout[location=middle,
backspace=23mm,
margin=15mm,margindistance=3mm,
width=fit,
]
\setupinmargin[left][align=left,foregroundcolor=red]
\setupinmargin[right][align=right,foregroundcolor=blue]
\showlayout
\starttext


.
  

--
luigi



Thank you, Luigi.
This code gives a nice result with the page sitting neatly centered on
the paper.

However, when I increase the margin width to 25mm all gets shifted to
the left. Both margins get 25 width, the right margin stays within the
boundaries of the A4 paper, the left one is pushed outside. One would
have expected that with width=fit, the increase of marginwidth would
go at the expense of textwidth and that location=middle will still
dictate the overall position.
But no, it does not work that way apparently. Setting  margin=20mm is
about the limit. Even setting textwidth to a small size, for example
10 cm, does not work to keep the page inside the paper. The extra
white space all shows up at the right side as an enormously wide
rightedge while the left margin is still partly outside the paper. In
other words: location=middle does not work.
Strange indeed.

Is there anything that could be done about this?
And would it be possible to different margin width for the right and
left margin?
  
When I tested some of the page layout possibilities I did read in * that 
the margin and the text are *not* at the same level, so the margins can 
be *under* the text.
This also means that changing the margin will not affect the text width, 
and so on.


Alain

see ConTeXt wiki Layout: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layout
and perhaps also ConTeXt the manual cont-enp.pdf

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Best regards,
Robert Blackstone
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Re: [NTG-context] Stack overflow

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

Hans Hagen a écrit :

On 20-3-2010 12:30, Andreas Schneider wrote:

Alain Delmotte wrote:


When I want to compile the file on which I am working, I get:
C:\Programmes\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\mtxrun.lua:2161: stack 
overflow


The same happens to me, but only when I invoke context.exe. It 
works fine
with context.cmd. (The same holds true for mtxrun.exe vs. 
mtxrun.cmd and

probably others.)


can you add a print in line 2161 and see what path is reported?

function file.collapse_path(str)

print(str)

str = gsub(str,\\,/)
if find(str,/) then

It starts compiling, then give:
.../...
C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf
mtx-\mtxrun.lua
mtxrun.lua
.
c:/adel/texmf/tex/context//
c:/adel/texmf/tex/plain/base//
c:/adel/texmf/tex/generic//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/tex/context//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/tex/plain/base//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-project/tex/generic//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/plain/base//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/generic//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-local/tex/context//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-local/tex/plain/base//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-local/tex/generic//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/context//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/plain/base//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-context/tex/generic//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-mswin/tex/context//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-mswin/tex/plain/base//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-mswin/tex/generic//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-extra/tex/context//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-extra/tex/plain/base//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf-extra/tex/generic//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/tex/context//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/tex/plain/base//
!!C:/Programmes/ConTeXt/tex/texmf/tex/generic//
mtxrun.lua
mtx-\mtxruns.lua
mtxruns.lua
mtxruns.lua
mtx-\mtxrun.lua
\mtxrun.lua
/mtxrun.lua
/mtxrun.lua
/mtxrun.lua
/mtxrun.lua

followed by 16371 (or so) /mtxrun.lua
before

/mtxrun.lua
stack overflow


Alain

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[NTG-context] Different behaviour

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

I did find a different behaviour for the same command.
In:
1] \starttext

2] \defineenumeration

3] [remark]

4] [way=bysection,location=top,

5]  text=Remark,

6]  inbetween=\blank,

7]  after=\blank]

8] \remark In the early medieval times Hasselt was a place of 
pilgrimage. %point 1


9] \subremark Nowadays the {\em Heilige Stede} is closed again. %point 2

10] \subremark Nowadays the {\em Heilige Stede} is closed again. %point 3

11]
12] Remarquer la possibilité d'avoir des sous-numéros.

13]
14] \remark In the early medieval times Hasselt was a place of 
pilgrimage. %point 4


15]
16] \subremark Nowadays the {\em Heilige Stede} is closed again. %point 5

17]
18] Aussi les \type{\startremark...\stopremark}.

19]
20] \remark In the early medieval times Hasselt was a place of 
pilgrimage. %point 6


21]
22] \subremark Nowadays the {\em Heilige Stede} is closed again. %point 7

23]
24] \subremark Nowadays the {\em Heilige Stede} is closed again. %point 8

25]
26] \stoptext

This works (no empry line before points 1, 2, 3; empty lines before the 
others)
If I suppress the line before any of the points 4, 5, 6, 7 or 8 I get an 
error Runaway argument for the line of point 8!


Suppressing *after*  point 3 or point 5 also gives an error.


In fact, it looks like there should be an empty line after the \remark 
or \subremark, but not for the first group!



(NB. I did add the line number to avoid misunderstanding going from a 
Windows CRLF to other CR or LF)



Alain



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[NTG-context] Table of contents

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

I have two question about table of contents.

1) is it possible to have the toc at the end of the document.
I tried to place \placecontent or \completecontent at the end and it 
didn't work; I only managed to have the toc at the beginning of the 
document.


2) If I define my own header (like in ConTeXt an excursion: 5. Headers) 
and so, for example, replacing \section by \myheader, which has a 
section level, the table of content is empty!


If the information is in another document, please give me a pointer, thanks!

Alain
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Re: [NTG-context] Table of contents

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

Thanks Mario and Wolfgang.
The \placelist command solved both problems.

Alain

Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :

Am 21.03.10 10:18, schrieb Alain Delmotte:

Hi!

I have two question about table of contents.

1) is it possible to have the toc at the end of the document.
I tried to place \placecontent or \completecontent at the end and it 
didn't work; I only managed to have the toc at the beginning of the 
document.


2) If I define my own header (like in ConTeXt an excursion: 5. 
Headers) and so, for example, replacing \section by \myheader, which 
has a section level, the table of content is empty!


If the information is in another document, please give me a pointer, 
thanks!

Mark 2:

\definehead[mysection][section]

\setuphead[mysection][coupling=section]

\starttext

\chapter{One}

\section{One.One}

\mysection{One.Two}

\completecontent[criterium=all]

\stoptext

Mark 4:

\definehead[mysection][section]

\starttext

\chapter{One}

\section{One.One}

\mysection{One.Two}

\title{Contents}

\placelist[chapter,section,mysection][criterium=all]

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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[NTG-context] Stack overflow

[Alain Delmotte]

Hi!

I just upgraded ConTeXt minimals
(from the status-of-update.lua file:
[info]={
 [comment]=this file contains the settings of the last 'mtxrun 
--script update ' run,

 [count]=3,
 [date]=2010-03-20 09:14:09,
 [runtime]=90.688,
 [version]=0.1,
},
)

When I want to compile the file on which I am working, I get:
C:\Programmes\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-mswin\bin\mtxrun.lua:2161: stack overflow

So, I am stuck.


What is the solution?


Alain


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