[Biofuel] I don't get it, (was: Shakeup for Big Pharm)

2007-01-17 Thread Chip Mefford
Bob Molloy wrote:
 Hi All,
   Something to ponder, a helluva shakeup for Big Pharm.
 Regards,
 Bob.
 
(grumble, I hate formatted text)

 Medical Breakthrough Could Change Global Politics 
 By Chris Floyd 
 t r u t h o u t | UK Correspondent 

snip

Tuesday 16 January 2007 
BIG SNIP
 The approach is called ethical pharmaceuticals, and it was unveiled on 
 January 2 
 by Sunil Shaunak, professor of infectious diseases at Imperial College, and 
 Steve 
 Brocchini of the London School of Pharmacy, the Guardian reports. Their team 
 of
 scientists in India and the UK, financed by the prestigious Wellcome with 
 technical 
 assistance from the UK government, 
--key point here--
 have developed a method of making small but significant changes to the 
 molecular 
 structure of existing drugs, thereby transforming them into new products, 
 circumventing 
 the long-term patents used by the corporate giants of Big Pharma to keep 
 prices - and profits - high. 

BIG SNIP


Okay, so the 'new' drug is clearly derived from the old drug, and
derivatives are usually covered under pretty much all 'intellectual
property' law, so I don't see how this would accomplish anything.

Note, that I am totally and completely opposed to patented drugs,
and if possible even more opposed to patented code, and the concept
of patented organisms just makes my head spin. The whole concept is
totally broken, and doesn't need revisiting, it all needs to be scrapped
and a new system instituted. However, that isn't likely to happen
any time soon, if at all.

So, how does tweaking a substance protected by patent (that probably
precludes tweaking it in the first place) and deriving a new substance
that is intended to address the same task as the original with the
expressed goal of escaping patent restriction achieve anything other
than broken law or five or more?




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Re: [Biofuel] any info about Namibia

2007-01-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I grew up there in the 70's and 80's, it was occupied by South Africa at
that stage and being used as a base to fight the communists in Angola. 
Since independance in 1990 it's been a stable, peaceful country.  It has a
checkered, and brutal, colonial history.(Read Andre Brink's harrowing The
Other Side of Silence for an idea of the country and the landscape.) It was
a German colony for many years before the 1st world war, and there are
still many people of German decent.   You'll find bernerwurst, sauerkraut
and even a bierfest in October.  There is a diverse idigenous population;
the Ovambo, Damara and Herero in the North and the San and Khoi in the
South.  The total population is about 2m.  Hot and tropical in the north
and hot and arid further south.  I guess you'll find more information on
the net, and maybe even get some comments from people living there.  You
find that it doesn't deserve  exclamation marks. I'm sure your daughter
will enjoy the trip.

Regards,
Duncan



  




No, this is not a travel agency list.  Sorry!  

Here's the deal:  One of our many daughters has just
scored a research grant for credit in her undergrad
science degree at U. Of Toronto, two months centred in
a hospital in Namibia Many exclamation marks. 
Does anything we should know just spring to mind,
anyone??

First thing I did was run out and rent a copy of 
Amandla!  A Revolution in Four-Part Harmony, which
ROCKED, but was not actually the right country.

Jesse

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Re: [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff

2007-01-17 Thread Joe Street
Hmm.  Last I checked aluminum and HDPE were different.  So why do you 
assume your experience with making BD in plastic has any bearing on the 
suitability of aluminum as a reactor vessel?  Anyways there was a thread 
way back about a tank coating material you should use to coat the inside 
of your aluminum tank which the methoxide would prefer to react with.  
As for washing fuel in the lucite.  I wouldn't do that.  I've heard that 
growing catfish in a barrel is easy and can be a sustainable food 
supply.  Is your fishtank big enough for that?

Joe

Mike Weaver wrote:

I have managed to score a 50 - 60 gallon aluminum tank with fittings - 
perfect for a processor.
I also have a 67 gallon (looks like lucite) circular fish tank. 

I know MOX does not like aluminum, and have heard BD does not like 
Lucite or Lexan or whatever this.
However, BD is fine in aluminum tanks.

I am wondering if I can use the aluminum tank as a processor, being 
careful when introducing the MOX - I've made BD in HDPE2 containers 
plenty (even the stray plastic bottle way early on).

So, any thoughts on the aluminum as processor and the fishtank as a wash 
or settling tank?

-Weaver

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Re: [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff

2007-01-17 Thread Joe Street

Are you sure about that Jim?

I use KOH as a etchant for aluminum.  Works like gangbusters. I would 
assume methoxide would do the same.


Joe

JAMES PHELPS wrote:


Mike,
The answer is yes.  If it is high alloy, even better.  What happens is 
aluminum forms
an oxide on its skin and it becomes very resistant to chemical 
corrosion.  The trick is to be sure
that you let it breath the inside of the tank. It needs an oxygen fix 
every so often to maintain the layer.
 
Good luck
 
Jim


- Original Message -
*From:* Mike Weaver mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:27 PM
*Subject:* [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff

I have managed to score a 50 - 60 gallon aluminum tank with
fittings -
perfect for a processor.
I also have a 67 gallon (looks like lucite) circular fish tank.

I know MOX does not like aluminum, and have heard BD does not like
Lucite or Lexan or whatever this.
However, BD is fine in aluminum tanks.

I am wondering if I can use the aluminum tank as a processor, being
careful when introducing the MOX - I've made BD in HDPE2 containers
plenty (even the stray plastic bottle way early on).

So, any thoughts on the aluminum as processor and the fishtank as
a wash
or settling tank?

-Weaver

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Re: [Biofuel] What's In Your Milk?

2007-01-17 Thread Joe Street
AFAIK the hormone BGH was allowed in dairy farms in the US but not in 
Canada.

J

John Mullan wrote:

I'm not sure what's in U.S. milk, or Canadian milk for that matter.  But I
live right on the border and often we get groceries in the U.S. for
significant savings.  But I have to share the fact that the taste of
Wegman's milk is significantly different than our Canadian milk yet I'm sure
our commercial factory farms do some of the same things.

John
  



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Re: [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff

2007-01-17 Thread JAMES PHELPS
This is a direct quote from a Metalurgical Engineer I know.  I am speaking 
from experience with another fellows reactor - 2 years old and still going - 
most tanks will be 5xxx series but again - I advocate - TEST IT.  I dont 
advocate this as a desired Choice of materials but PE instead.

Jim

5XXX series aluminums have good corrosion properties and form a passive 
layer faster than some of the other series aluminums. They contain magnesium 
alloying which is a good property for corrosion and ship halls are usually 
made from 5XXX series aluminums. To keep the aluminum from corroding, do not 
have the aluminum touching other metals because the aluminum will start 
acting as an anode and be sacrificed to protect the other metals. Your 
operating temperatures are also variable which increase your rate of 
reactions for corrosion. Your operating temperatures may not be interfering 
with the passive layering process on the aluminum and the passive layer is 
protecting the aluminum like it should. Other processes may have more 
particulates in the solution being processed which causes erosion corrosion 
and then the passive layer is being removed faster than it can heal if there 
is mixing going on in the tank; making aluminum tanks a bad idea for storing 
their solutions. I need some more back ground information to get down to the 
nuts and bolts on both questions.



Methanol, CH3OH, OH- is looking for a positively charged ion other than the 
carbon atom. So the iron from the steel bonds with OH- ion due to the 
activity rates at a thermodynamic level and corrodes the steel. Methanol is 
relatively reactive solution, you can tell by the flammability signs on the 
barrels from shipment so that is why most of the methanol that is shipped 
these days is in polyurethane-ethylene tanks and most of the steel barrels 
all leak.



From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:49:31 -0500

Are you sure about that Jim?

I use KOH as a etchant for aluminum.  Works like gangbusters. I would 
assume methoxide would do the same.

Joe

JAMES PHELPS wrote:

Mike,
The answer is yes.  If it is high alloy, even better.  What happens is 
aluminum forms
an oxide on its skin and it becomes very resistant to chemical corrosion.  
The trick is to be sure
that you let it breath the inside of the tank. It needs an oxygen fix 
every so often to maintain the layer.
  Good luck
  Jim

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Mike Weaver mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
 mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2007 2:27 PM
 *Subject:* [Biofuel] Back to the topic...New BD stuff

 I have managed to score a 50 - 60 gallon aluminum tank with
 fittings -
 perfect for a processor.
 I also have a 67 gallon (looks like lucite) circular fish tank.

 I know MOX does not like aluminum, and have heard BD does not like
 Lucite or Lexan or whatever this.
 However, BD is fine in aluminum tanks.

 I am wondering if I can use the aluminum tank as a processor, being
 careful when introducing the MOX - I've made BD in HDPE2 containers
 plenty (even the stray plastic bottle way early on).

 So, any thoughts on the aluminum as processor and the fishtank as
 a wash
 or settling tank?

 -Weaver

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[Biofuel] Question

2007-01-17 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hi all,
came across some info on Jatropha oil recently. The oil from some spieces is 
considered non-edible, but I have found no reason for it. Can somebody spread a 
little light on this ?

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Re: [Biofuel] I don't get it, (was: Shakeup for Big Pharm)

2007-01-17 Thread Bob Molloy

Chip Melford asked: So, how does tweaking a substance protected by patent
.achieve anything other than broken law or five or more?

The answer was there in the original post:

Quote:
The potential benefits and geopolitical implications of this approach
are almost limitless. Imagine a world where the most downtrodden can be
rescued from the ravages of chronic disease that now beset them, generation
after generation. A world where they don't droop and languish, where their
energies are not consumed and exhausted in the struggle for survival. A
world where their children are born to healthy mothers, with all the proven
advantages for future development, both physically and mentally, that such a
birth provides. Imagine a world where the preventable deaths and epidemics
that break down societal bonds, devastate communities, cripple local
economies, destroy families and make any kind of political action almost
impossible are a thing of the past.
Unquote.

- Original Message -
From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:12 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] I don't get it, (was: Shakeup for Big Pharm)


 Bob Molloy wrote:
  Hi All,
Something to ponder, a helluva shakeup for Big Pharm.
  Regards,
  Bob.
 
 (grumble, I hate formatted text)

  Medical Breakthrough Could Change Global Politics
  By Chris Floyd
  t r u t h o u t | UK Correspondent

 snip

 Tuesday 16 January 2007
 BIG SNIP
  The approach is called ethical pharmaceuticals, and it was unveiled on
January 2
  by Sunil Shaunak, professor of infectious diseases at Imperial College,
and Steve
  Brocchini of the London School of Pharmacy, the Guardian reports. Their
team of
  scientists in India and the UK, financed by the prestigious Wellcome
with technical
  assistance from the UK government,
 --key point here--
  have developed a method of making small but significant changes to the
molecular
  structure of existing drugs, thereby transforming them into new
products, circumventing
  the long-term patents used by the corporate giants of Big Pharma to keep
prices - and profits - high.

 BIG SNIP


 Okay, so the 'new' drug is clearly derived from the old drug, and
 derivatives are usually covered under pretty much all 'intellectual
 property' law, so I don't see how this would accomplish anything.

 Note, that I am totally and completely opposed to patented drugs,
 and if possible even more opposed to patented code, and the concept
 of patented organisms just makes my head spin. The whole concept is
 totally broken, and doesn't need revisiting, it all needs to be scrapped
 and a new system instituted. However, that isn't likely to happen
 any time soon, if at all.




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Re: [Biofuel] I don't get it,

2007-01-17 Thread Chip Mefford
Bob Molloy wrote:
 Chip Melford asked: So, how does tweaking a substance protected by patent
 .achieve anything other than broken law or five or more?
 
 The answer was there in the original post:
 
 Quote:
 The potential benefits and geopolitical implications of this approach
 are almost limitless. Imagine a world where the most downtrodden can be
 rescued from the ravages of chronic disease that now beset them, generation
 after generation. 

Granted.

But, this doesn't address the question.

Sure, taking patented drugs and removing the profit from them
so regular people of earth can gain the benefit has great appeal.

However, that still doesn't make it legal.

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[Biofuel] Doomsday Clock

2007-01-17 Thread Philip Gwinnell



Hawking: Doomsday Clock closer to midnight

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor (Daily Telegraph UK)
Last Updated: 6:45pm GMT 17/01/2007

The world has nudged closer to apocalypse as a result of climate change and 
nuclear proliferation, Prof Stephen Hawking and other prominent scientists 
warned today as the hand of a symbolic Doomsday Clock moved two minutes closer 
to midnight.

Stephen Hawking: Doomsday clock moves closer to midnight
Professor Hawking spoke as scientists moved the hands of the Doomsday Clock 
forward

The clock, devised at the dawn of the nuclear age, made official what many now 
feel in their bones - that the world has edged closer to disaster.

“We foresee great peril if governments and societies do not take action now,” 
said Prof Hawking.

It was the fourth time since the end of the Cold War that the clock has ticked 
forward, this time from 11:53 to 11:55, amid fears over what the scientists are 
describing as “a second nuclear age”, prompted largely by failure to curb the 
atomic ambitions of Iran and North Korea.

“As scientists, we understand the dangers of nuclear weapons and their 
devastating effects, and we are learning how human activities and technologies 
are affecting climate systems in ways that may forever change life on Earth,” 
said Prof Hawking, of Cambridge University.

“As citizens of the world, we have a duty to alert the public to the 
unnecessary risks that we live with every day, and to the perils we foresee if 
governments and societies do not take action now to render nuclear weapons 
obsolete and to prevent further climate change.”

Prof Hawking described how the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists was founded in 
1945 by scientists, including Albert Einstein and those who had worked on the 
Manhattan Project and were deeply concerned about nuclear weapons, which they 
called “the most destructive technology on Earth”.

Lord Rees, president of the Royal Society, said the world is now confronted by 
the prospect of terrorists detonating a nuclear weapon in the heart of a city, 
“killing tens of thousands along with themselves, and millions around the world 
would acclaim them as heroes”.

And the way mankind is changing the world, and endangering it, means “we have 
entered a new geological era, the anthropocene”, Lord Rees said.

He added that 21st century technology, “if optimally applied, could offer 
immense opportunities, for the developing and the developed world. But it will 
present new threats more diverse and more intractable than nuclear weapons did.

To confront these threats successfully – and to avoid foreclosing humanity’s 
long-term potential – scientists need to channel their efforts wisely and 
engage with the political process nationally and internationally.”

In 1947 the Bulletin introduced its Doomsday Clock to evoke both the imagery of 
apocalypse (midnight) and the contemporary idiom of nuclear explosion 
(countdown to zero).

Since it was set to seven minutes to midnight in 1947, the hand has been moved 
18 times, including today’s move. The clock has been as far away as 17 minutes, 
set there in 1991 following the demise of the Soviet Union, and came closest to 
midnight — just two minutes away — in 1953, following the successful test of a 
hydrogen bomb by the United States.

“But for good luck, we would all be dead,” said Prof Hawking.

“As we stand at the brink of a second nuclear age, and a period of 
unprecedented climate change, scientists have a special responsibility.”

The decision to move the clock is made by the bulletin’s board, which is 
composed of prominent scientists and policy experts, including 18 Nobel 
laureates, in coordination with the group’s sponsors.

The clock would now also measure the world’s rising temperatures, said the 
bulletin’s editor Mark Strauss.

“There’s a realisation that we are changing our climate for the worse,” he said.

“That would have catastrophic effects. Although the threat is not as dire as 
that of nuclear weapons right now, in the long term we are looking at a serious 
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Re: [Biofuel] I don't get it,

2007-01-17 Thread Jason Katie
actually if an improvement or modification is made to an existing patent 
then it can itself can be patented as a whole new invention (at least in 
america)
- Original Message - 
From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I don't get it,


 Bob Molloy wrote:
 Chip Melford asked: So, how does tweaking a substance protected by 
 patent
 .achieve anything other than broken law or five or more?

 The answer was there in the original post:

 Quote:
 The potential benefits and geopolitical implications of this approach
 are almost limitless. Imagine a world where the most downtrodden can be
 rescued from the ravages of chronic disease that now beset them, 
 generation
 after generation.

 Granted.

 But, this doesn't address the question.

 Sure, taking patented drugs and removing the profit from them
 so regular people of earth can gain the benefit has great appeal.

 However, that still doesn't make it legal.

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[Biofuel] Crude fatty acid distillate

2007-01-17 Thread tanuki
Hi everyone,

An oil mill has just told me that they have excess of crude fatty acid
distillate which they can give me with the following specifications :

Free Fatty Acid (As Lauric)  -  71.8%
Iodine Value mg I/g  - 10
Total Fatty Matter- 96%
Moisture  Impurities   - 0.5%
Saponifiable Value mg KOH/g   -  260
Unsaponifiable Matter-  0.32%

I am now doing some small production for my own use with a blend of WVO and
new oil on the single stage process.  I've read up on the two stage process
and it looks like the above will take a two stage process with 71.8% FFA.
Am I right?  Anyone out there with some thoughts on the matter?  Its free
stuff for me although its only about 200liters monthly.  Would it be better
to blend it or process it separately?

Thanks

Ken


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[Biofuel] How richest fuel global warming - but poorest suffer most from it

2007-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2137667.ece
Independent Online Edition  Environment

How richest fuel global warming - but poorest suffer most from it

By Philip Thornton, Economics Correspondent

Published: 09 January 2007

By the end of tomorrow the average Briton will have caused as much 
global warning as the typical Kenyan will over the whole of this 
year, according to a report.

The findings highlight the glaring imbalance between the rich 
countries that produce most of the pollution and the poor countries 
that suffer the consequences in the forms of drought, floods, 
starvation and disease.

The World Development Movement (WDM), a poverty campaign group, has 
drawn up a climate calendar showing the dates when the UK will have 
emitted as much CO2 gas as other countries will in a year.

Unsurprisingly, the poorest counties such as Chad, Afghanistan and 
the Democratic Republic of Congo produce virtually no carbon 
emissions. Even populous countries such as India will be overtaken in 
its emissions by the UK in a month's time. In fact, 164 countries in 
the world have a smaller carbon footprint than the UK, while just 20, 
mainly including the major oil producers as well as the US, have a 
larger one.

By the end of tomorrow the average Briton will have produced 0.26 
tonnes of CO2 emissions.

The poorest countries in the world, with 738 million people, make no 
contribution to climate change, but it is those same people who face 
the worst consequences, Benedict Southworth, WDM's director, said.  
One hundred and sixty thousand people are already dying every year 
due to climate change- related diseases and billions will face 
drought, floods, starvation and disease.

WDM has calculated the figures by taking the annual CO2 emission for 
each country, dividing by the number of people and then working out a 
daily contribution.

Thus while an Afghan on average will produce an annual equivalent of 
0.02 tonnes of CO2, a Briton will produce 9.62 tonnes and the most 
prolific polluter - someone from the United Arab Emirates - will emit 
about 56 tonnes.

WDM acknowledged that its figures were based on averages that masked 
differences between life in rural and urban areas, but said that the 
figures still exposed the injustice of global warming.

It is the richest people in the world who have produced and who are 
still producing most of the greenhouse gases causing climate change, 
Mr Southworth said.

The report said 7,800 Kenyans, Tanzanians and Rwandans died every 
year from diseases that were related to climate change. It warned 
that a 2C rise in temperature could lead to as many as 60 million 
more people being exposed to malaria in Africa.

The potential for massive ecological and human suffering as a result 
of climate change was a key finding in the report by Sir Nicholas 
Stern, although it was overshadowed by the political debate over the 
need for higher taxes or the imposition of rationing.

The Stern report found that many vulnerable regions embracing 
millions of people in sub-Saharan Africa were at risk from harvest 
failures, droughts and malaria.

It warned that these phenomena would affect the poorest people most 
of all and fuel conflicts and raise the number of child deaths as 
populations moved to avoid the worst-hit areas.

WDM said that although the Government had used the Stern report to 
show Britain's commitment to fighting climate change, emissions had 
risen 5 per cent under Labour.

It called on the Government to include legally binding annual targets 
to cut emissions in its Climate Change Bill.

Carbon comparison

The average British citizen produces 26kg of CO2 in a day. This 
breaks down as follows:

* 7.4 electricity
* 1.6 fuel production
* 3.8 manufacturing and construction
* 7.4 transport, of which: (5.2 road transport, 1.7 air travel, 0.1 
railways and 0.4 shipping)
* 1.0 office buildings
* 3.8 residential heating
* 1.0 Other industrial processes, agriculture, military travel, other

The average Kenyan citizen produces 0.7kg of CO2 in a day. This 
breaks down as follows:

* 0.08 electricity
* 0.08 fuel production
* 0.16 manufacturing and construction
* 0.31 transport
* 0.07 other

 


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[Biofuel] Use Of 'Precautionary Principle' For Chemicals Is Growing

2007-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
From: Risk Policy Report, Jan. 16, 2007
http://www.precaution.org/lib/07/prn_use_of_pp_grows.070116.htm[Prin 
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Use Of 'Precautionary Principle' For Chemicals Is Growing

Environmentalists and other public health advocates say recent 
movements by states, businesses and international regulatory bodies 
are signs of increased use of the so-called 
'http://www.precaution.org/lib/pp_def.htmprecautionary principle' 
-- efforts that come as Democrats are raising key questions about 
federal toxics laws.

Activists say the precautionary principle is beginning to emerge in a 
variety of political and commercial arenas, including efforts by 
businesses to reduce potential toxic exposure; the growth of green 
chemistry programs; and, to a lesser degree, a recently adopted 
European chemical regulatory program. The precautionary principle 
places the burden on those advocating new policies or products to 
prove the efforts will not cause public harm. For example, the 
chemical industry would be burdened with proving a chemical is safe 
before introducing its use.

The chemical industry remains the primary focus of the precautionary 
principle, as environmentalists argue federal laws are insufficient 
to regulate chemicals that may pose a threat to human health. 
Activists say it takes EPA years or decades to regulate harmful 
chemicals, because the agency must first prove the chemicals pose a 
health threat. They cite lead, mercury and other well-defined hazards 
as examples where the agency has struggled to eliminate hazardous 
uses. In particular, environmentalists say the Toxic Substances 
Control Act (TSCA) is problematic. The law, which has not been 
updated since Congress passed it in 1976, may face intense scrutiny 
from Democrats who are promising oversight of toxics issues.

The concept of the precautionary principle ruffles chemical industry 
officials, who say it is ill-defined and poses unnecessary burdens on 
the industry. Officials argue TSCA is sufficient to regulate 
chemicals and also note that industry voluntarily supplies data to 
EPA on a number of the most highly-used chemicals in the United 
States. Given that information, EPA has enough data to screen for 
chemicals that may pose a threat, industry officials say.

Environmentalists, however, say the precautionary principle is 
already being successfully applied. For example, the Democratic 
governors of Maine and Michigan issued executive orders in 2006 
promoting green chemistry, or the substitution of less toxic forms 
of chemicals for those that may pose health risks. Environmentalists 
say the efforts represent a form of the precautionary principle being 
actively applied, and note the results could generate significant 
economic benefits for those states. Other states, including 
Massachusetts and New York, are considering similar programs. In 
addition, California is considering a legislative approach to green 
chemistry, though it has yet to be unveiled. (Risk Policy Report, 
Nov. 7, p1).

In another example, environmentalists cite San Francisco's recent 
decision to ban phthalates in children's toys as a regulatory driver 
for the precautionary principle. The city voted to ban the chemicals, 
which are used to soften plastics, based on concerns that the 
chemicals may cause reproductive harm. But industry and retailers say 
the risks are minimal, and filed suit to block the ban. If the ban 
sticks, toy manufacturers may be forced to examine other alternatives 
(Risk Policy Report, Oct. 31, p2).Some businesses are also taking 
steps to reduce toxics in their products, which environmentalists say 
is another application of the precautionary principle. For instance, 
some retailers are leaning on suppliers to provide furniture, medical 
supplies or other products that do not contain chemicals suspected of 
causing health problems.

In the international arena, the European Union (EU) adopted a new 
chemical regulatory program known as Registration, Evaluation  
Authorization of Chemicals (REACH) in late 2006. REACH is aimed at 
requiring data on most chemicals produced or sold in the EU, and 
requires safety testing for certain chemicals before they can be used.

Environmentalists are divided on whether the program is an example of 
the precautionary principle. Some argue it is one of the greatest 
triumphs of the principle, while others argue it is simply a more 
stringent regulatory program than that of the United States and does 
little to implement the precautionary principle.

One public health advocate says REACH will generate more hazard data 
but is still shy of precautionary. What's going on in Europe is a 
preview, the source says, but other regulatory efforts and 
incentive- based programs will likely be needed to take a 
precautionary approach to public health.

Industry officials, on the other hand are adamant that REACH is not a 
sign of the precautionary principle being invoked. Instead, they say 
the 

[Biofuel] Dr Strangelove Saves The Earth

2007-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
From: The Economist, Jan. 15, 2006
http://www.precaution.org/lib/07/prn_global_engineering.070115.htm[P 
rinter-friendly version]

Dr Strangelove Saves The Earth

How big science might fix climate change

Few scientists like to say so, but cutting greenhouse-gas emissions 
is not the only way to solve the problem of global warming. If 
man-made technologies are capable of heating the planet, they are 
probably capable of cooling it down again. Welcome to 
geo-engineering, which holds that, rather than trying to change 
mankind's industrial habits, it is more efficient to counter the 
effects, using planetary-scale engineering.

This general approach has been kicking around for decades. A paper on 
climate change prepared for President Lyndon Johnson in 1965 made no 
mention of cutting greenhouse-gas emissions. It nonchalantly proposed 
dealing with the results by dumping vast quantities of reflective 
particles into the oceans, to increase the amount of sunlight 
reflected into space.

That school of thinking has since fallen out of fashion. As 
scientists have accumulated evidence for global warming and its 
possible consequences, so the scientific and political consensus has 
favoured attempts at reducing carbon emissions through taxes and 
regulations and subsidies, many of them directed at factories and 
motor-cars.

More needs to be done. Greenhouse-gas levels have gone on rising. The 
rapid industrialisation of China and India means they are going to 
rise even more.

This gloomy outlook has encouraged new interest in a technological 
fix. A scientific journal, Climatic Change, published a series of 
papers on the subject in August, including one by Paul Crutzen, a 
Nobel-prize-winning atmospheric chemist. Other journals followed up. 
In November the Carnegie Institution and NASA held a conference.

Many big ideas for global cooling have been suggested over the years. 
They include seeding the skies with compounds to encourage the 
formation of low-lying, cooling clouds; building a giant sun-shade in 
space; and dumping iron in the oceans to encourage the growth of 
algae that would take in carbon when alive and trap it in on the sea 
floor when dead.

Ken Caldeira, a scientist at the Carnegie Institution, says the most 
promising idea may be to spray tiny sulphate particles into the upper 
atmosphere, where they will reflect incoming sunlight. Nature has 
already done the proof-of-concept work: volcanic eruptions spew such 
particles into the air, and the cooling effect is well documented.

Schemes of this kind may sound half-crazy; and, admittedly, they do 
tend to have some technical and aesthetic complications. Deliberately 
polluting the stratosphere would make the sky less blue, although 
sunsets would probably be prettier. Blocking out the sun might keep 
the planet cool, but it would do little to address other effects of 
high carbon-dioxide levels, such as the acidification of the oceans.

Deliberately polluting the stratosphere would make the sky less blue, 
but sunsets would probably be prettierA more fundamental objection is 
that the models used in geo-engineering are similar to those used in 
forecasting climate change. Which is to say, they rely similarly on 
assumptions and extrapolations.

Still, the basic science seems sound. I started doing this work in 
an attempt to show that geo-engineering was a bad idea, says Mr 
Caldeira. I still think it's a bad idea, but every simulation we do 
seems to shows it could be made to work.

Ralph Cicerone, president of America's National Academy of Sciences, 
has said that geo-engineering inspires opposition for various and 
sincere reasons that are not wholly scientific. Others might say the 
same about its support. One early enthusiast was Edward Teller, an 
emigre Hungarian physicist known in America as the father of the 
hydrogen bomb, and often cited as an inspiration for Dr Strangelove.

Scientists tend now to see geo-engineering research as a form of 
insurance policy against the effects of continued global warning, not 
as an excuse for downplaying the problem, nor for tolerating more 
carbon emissions in the meantime.

You might expect green groups to applaud this belt-and-braces 
approach. More often, they resist it in principle, and have little 
time for the research involved. At worst they seem to see it as a 
scheme by devious scientists to thwart Nature's just revenge.

Still, there is a reasonable fear here that an illusory hope of a 
scientific fix might undermine the sort of dogged and grubby policy 
solutions, such as carbon caps and carbon quotas, needed for taking 
the fight against climate change to its source.

The http://www.precaution.org/lib/pp_def.htmprecautionary 
principle, which calls for extra prudence in areas of scientific 
uncertainty, also applies. You can look at climate change as an 
experiment which mankind has -- to its horror -- found itself 
performing on the planet. To start a second experiment, in the 

Re: [Biofuel] I don't get it, (was: Shakeup for Big Pharm)

2007-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Chip Melford asked: So, how does tweaking a substance protected by patent
.achieve anything other than broken law or five or more?

The answer was there in the original post:

Quote:
The potential benefits and geopolitical implications of this approach
are almost limitless. Imagine a world where the most downtrodden can be
rescued from the ravages of chronic disease that now beset them, generation
after generation. A world where they don't droop and languish, where their
energies are not consumed and exhausted in the struggle for survival. A
world where their children are born to healthy mothers, with all the proven
advantages for future development, both physically and mentally, that such a
birth provides. Imagine a world where the preventable deaths and epidemics
that break down societal bonds, devastate communities, cripple local
economies, destroy families and make any kind of political action almost
impossible are a thing of the past.
Unquote.

Health is not just the absence of disease, or the product of better 
pills, or any pills. It's not so much rampant disease that the most 
downtrodden are most trodden down by but poverty, which isn't cured 
by pills. The dieases of poverty are a subset, not a cause. Poverty 
isn't just happenstance (or incompetence), it's a function of  an 
inequitable world economic system, not just a by-product but an 
integral part of the resource extraction and wealth concentration of 
the corporate-style globanomics that has seen all the poor countries 
getting poorer in the last 20 years. Eg.:

http://www.cepr.net/globalization/scorecard_on_globalization.htm
The Scorecard on Globalization 1980-2000 - Twenty Years of Diminished Progress
By Mark Weisbrot, Dean Baker, Egor Kraev and Judy Chen  July 11, 2001

Similarly with food:

http://snipurl.com/rcij
[Biofuel] Bushfood

http://snipurl.com/rcik
[Biofuel] Myth: More US aid will help the hungry

http://snipurl.com/rcim
Re: [Biofuel] US Foreign aid
Food Dumping [Aid] Maintains Poverty

http://snipurl.com/rcig
[Biofuel] The US and Foreign Aid Assistance

http://snipurl.com/rcih
[Biofuel] Famines as Commercial Opportunity

http://snipurl.com/rcii
[Biofuel] Famine As Commerce

http://snipurl.com/rcin
[Biofuel] Inequality in wealth

Nearly three billion people live on less than $2 a day, a miserable 
figure that doesn't begin to tell the story. Rushing in with pills to 
cure their ills is a well-known no-no among development workers who 
work with Primary Health Care. A term used in PHC is deferred 
mortality. Sounds good eh? Death postponed. An example would be 
using antibiotics to cure a child of a disease only for the child to 
die of starvation a year later. That's not to say that there aren't 
cases where using modern drugs might be appropriate, but it needs a 
systems approach, not a silver bullet.

Anyway the very poor would probably be the last to receive any such 
benefits, if ever.

The title of the article is better, Shakeup for Big Pharm. If this 
approach hurts the big pharmaceutical companies and helps to loosen 
the corporate grip on patenting and intellectual property rights it 
will probably have done the poor more good than the pills ever will. 
Everyone, not just the poor.

All best

Keith



- Original Message -
From: Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:12 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] I don't get it, (was: Shakeup for Big Pharm)


  Bob Molloy wrote:
   Hi All,
 Something to ponder, a helluva shakeup for Big Pharm.
   Regards,
   Bob.
  
  (grumble, I hate formatted text)
 
   Medical Breakthrough Could Change Global Politics
   By Chris Floyd
   t r u t h o u t | UK Correspondent
 
  snip
 
  Tuesday 16 January 2007
  BIG SNIP
   The approach is called ethical pharmaceuticals, and it was unveiled on
January 2
   by Sunil Shaunak, professor of infectious diseases at Imperial College,
and Steve
   Brocchini of the London School of Pharmacy, the Guardian reports. Their
team of
   scientists in India and the UK, financed by the prestigious Wellcome
with technical
   assistance from the UK government,
  --key point here--
   have developed a method of making small but significant changes to the
molecular
   structure of existing drugs, thereby transforming them into new
products, circumventing
   the long-term patents used by the corporate giants of Big Pharma to keep
prices - and profits - high.
 
  BIG SNIP
 
 
  Okay, so the 'new' drug is clearly derived from the old drug, and
  derivatives are usually covered under pretty much all 'intellectual
  property' law, so I don't see how this would accomplish anything.
 
  Note, that I am totally and completely opposed to patented drugs,
  and if possible even more opposed to patented code, and the concept
  of patented organisms just makes my head spin. The whole concept is
  totally broken, and doesn't need revisiting, it all needs to be scrapped
  and a new system instituted. 

Re: [Biofuel] Dr Strangelove Saves The Earth

2007-01-17 Thread dwoodard
The geoengineering approach appears to ignore the problem of the seas 
becoming more acid due to more dissolved CO2. I don't see an engineering 
approach to that one at any bearable cost.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Keith Addison wrote:

 From: The Economist, Jan. 15, 2006
 http://www.precaution.org/lib/07/prn_global_engineering.070115.htm[P
 rinter-friendly version]

 Dr Strangelove Saves The Earth

 How big science might fix climate change

 Few scientists like to say so, but cutting greenhouse-gas emissions
 is not the only way to solve the problem of global warming. If
 man-made technologies are capable of heating the planet, they are
 probably capable of cooling it down again. Welcome to
 geo-engineering, which holds that, rather than trying to change
 mankind's industrial habits, it is more efficient to counter the
 effects, using planetary-scale engineering.

 This general approach has been kicking around for decades. A paper on
 climate change prepared for President Lyndon Johnson in 1965 made no
 mention of cutting greenhouse-gas emissions. It nonchalantly proposed
 dealing with the results by dumping vast quantities of reflective
 particles into the oceans, to increase the amount of sunlight
 reflected into space.

[snip]

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