Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha frm vidhya

2004-02-19 Thread pinky 22in

x-charset ISO-8859-1hi
  the residue is a very good anti lice agent and a
very good conditioner  for hair. apply it  on hair.
after one hour wash it   .otherwise the glycerol can
be seperated  from the residue using phosphoric acid 
(in small scale production)  and  the ethanol can be
seperated.





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Hi Pinky,

Do you know what the residue can
be used for?  or how to
safely dispose of it?

SM



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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of
Jatropha frm vidhya



 hi
if you use  one litre of jatropha for
 transesterification process  then you will get 850
to
 900 ml of biodiesel. with  76 grams of residue  wer
 10 - 15 ml of glycerol can be obtained
   thanks  bye--vidhya



 --- Equipment Engineers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -
 Dear Rajesh,
 We are working on Biodiesel from Pungam seeds oil,
We
 are located in Chennai India. We are yet to
 standardise the process. Please let me know how
 efficient is Jatropha, in terms of raw oil price and
 the cost of inputs. Howmuch final product we get
from
 Jatropha.
 Please note we can supply you the Reaction vessel
and
 the associated system, if you are planning for one.
 Regards
 Girish
   - Original Message -
   From: rajesh sk
   To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:41 AM
   Subject: Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation
 of Jatropha


   i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT
ON
 Biodiesel PRODUCTION FROM jATROPHA. Jatropha is a
 treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and
 it grows in developing countries like india, Zambia,
 and other countries. Jatrpha plant also has
madicinal
 value. If u need further details u can contact me
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Sumit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi All,

   Are there any members out there who know much
about
 Jatropha
   and it's processing requirements.


   Thanks,

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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha frm vidhya

2004-02-18 Thread pinky 22in

x-charset ISO-8859-1 
hi
   if you use  one litre of jatropha for
transesterification process  then you will get 850 to
900 ml of biodiesel. with  76 grams of residue  wer 
10 - 15 ml of glycerol can be obtained
  thanks  bye--vidhya



--- Equipment Engineers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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Dear Rajesh,
We are working on Biodiesel from Pungam seeds oil, We
are located in Chennai India. We are yet to
standardise the process. Please let me know how
efficient is Jatropha, in terms of raw oil price and
the cost of inputs. Howmuch final product we get from
Jatropha.
Please note we can supply you the Reaction vessel and
the associated system, if you are planning for one.
Regards
Girish
  - Original Message - 
  From: rajesh sk 
  To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation
of Jatropha


  i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT ON
Biodiesel PRODUCTION FROM jATROPHA. Jatropha is a
treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and
it grows in developing countries like india, Zambia,
and other countries. Jatrpha plant also has madicinal
value. If u need further details u can contact me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Sumit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,

  Are there any members out there who know much about
Jatropha
  and it's processing requirements.


  Thanks,

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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha frm vidhya

2004-02-18 Thread pinky 22in

x-charset ISO-8859-1hi

pongamiia test is going on  i just tested  cotton seed
oil and jatropha  sofar.-vidhya

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Hi,
I am from Chennai. Do you have any test results on
Pungam oil. i will be grateful if you can send me,
your test comparison on Pungam and jetropha based
biodiesel production. 
Regards
Girish
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  From: pinky 22in 
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  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 9:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation
of Jatropha


  hi
i am vidhyaI from India.I have completed  M.Sc  in
  Environmental sciences In PSG  college  India, and
  completed my M.E
  environmental engineering  in Griffith university 
  Australia and MBA in Alagappa University India.  now

  from KCT  coimbatore working on biodiesel from
  jatropha   also i have tested different oils  but
  found jatropha is efficient.on what aspect you r
  working
regards 
  vidhya








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  i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT ON
  Biodiesel PRODUCTION FROM jATROPHA. Jatropha is a
  treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and
  it grows in developing countries like india, Zambia,
  and other countries. Jatrpha plant also has
madicinal
  value. If u need further details u can contact me
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Sumit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,

  Are there any members out there who know much about
  Jatropha
  and it's processing requirements.


  Thanks,

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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha frm vidhya

2004-02-18 Thread Sumit

x-charset ISO-8859-1Hi Pinky,

Do you know what the residue can be used for?  or how to
safely dispose of it?

SM



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From: pinky 22in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha frm vidhya



 hi
if you use  one litre of jatropha for
 transesterification process  then you will get 850 to
 900 ml of biodiesel. with  76 grams of residue  wer
 10 - 15 ml of glycerol can be obtained
   thanks  bye--vidhya



 --- Equipment Engineers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -
 Dear Rajesh,
 We are working on Biodiesel from Pungam seeds oil, We
 are located in Chennai India. We are yet to
 standardise the process. Please let me know how
 efficient is Jatropha, in terms of raw oil price and
 the cost of inputs. Howmuch final product we get from
 Jatropha.
 Please note we can supply you the Reaction vessel and
 the associated system, if you are planning for one.
 Regards
 Girish
   - Original Message -
   From: rajesh sk
   To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:41 AM
   Subject: Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation
 of Jatropha


   i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT ON
 Biodiesel PRODUCTION FROM jATROPHA. Jatropha is a
 treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and
 it grows in developing countries like india, Zambia,
 and other countries. Jatrpha plant also has madicinal
 value. If u need further details u can contact me
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Sumit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi All,

   Are there any members out there who know much about
 Jatropha
   and it's processing requirements.


   Thanks,

   Sumit





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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-14 Thread rajesh sk

Dear Girish, 
 
We are working on biodiesel production from jatropha oil as a research project 
at IIT Delhi. We are in a process of stadardization of the process. We need a 
batch reactor of capacity 10 lit biodiesel vessel. Please if u can send 
deatailed quotatation alon with catalogues, its for research and the after 
standerdization in IIT we are planning tom dessiminate technology for 
commercialization 
 
Regards 
 
Rajesh S  K 
CRDT IIT Delhi 

Equipment Engineers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Rajesh,
We are working on Biodiesel from Pungam seeds oil, We are located in Chennai 
India. We are yet to standardise the process. Please let me know how efficient 
is Jatropha, in terms of raw oil price and the cost of inputs. Howmuch final 
product we get from Jatropha.
Please note we can supply you the Reaction vessel and the associated system, if 
you are planning for one.
Regards
Girish
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From: rajesh sk 
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha


i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT ON Biodiesel PRODUCTION FROM 
jATROPHA. Jatropha is a treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and it 
grows in developing countries like india, Zambia, and other countries. Jatrpha 
plant also has madicinal value. If u need further details u can contact me 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Hi All,

Are there any members out there who know much about Jatropha
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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-13 Thread pinky 22in

x-charset ISO-8859-1 hi
  i am vidhyaI from India.I have completed  M.Sc  in
Environmental sciences In PSG  college  India, and
completed my M.E
environmental engineering  in Griffith university 
Australia and MBA in Alagappa University India.  now 
from KCT  coimbatore working on biodiesel from
jatropha   also i have tested different oils  but
found jatropha is efficient.on what aspect you r
working
  regards 
vidhya








--- rajesh sk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
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i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT ON
Biodiesel PRODUCTION FROM jATROPHA. Jatropha is a
treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and
it grows in developing countries like india, Zambia,
and other countries. Jatrpha plant also has madicinal
value. If u need further details u can contact me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
Sumit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,

Are there any members out there who know much about
Jatropha
and it's processing requirements.


Thanks,

Sumit





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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-13 Thread Equipment Engineers

Dear Rajesh,
We are working on Biodiesel from Pungam seeds oil, We are located in Chennai 
India. We are yet to standardise the process. Please let me know how efficient 
is Jatropha, in terms of raw oil price and the cost of inputs. Howmuch final 
product we get from Jatropha.
Please note we can supply you the Reaction vessel and the associated system, if 
you are planning for one.
Regards
Girish
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  i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT ON Biodiesel PRODUCTION FROM 
jATROPHA. Jatropha is a treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and it 
grows in developing countries like india, Zambia, and other countries. Jatrpha 
plant also has madicinal value. If u need further details u can contact me 
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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-13 Thread Equipment Engineers

Hi,
I am from Chennai. Do you have any test results on Pungam oil. i will be 
grateful if you can send me, your test comparison on Pungam and jetropha based 
biodiesel production. 
Regards
Girish
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  hi
i am vidhyaI from India.I have completed  M.Sc  in
  Environmental sciences In PSG  college  India, and
  completed my M.E
  environmental engineering  in Griffith university 
  Australia and MBA in Alagappa University India.  now 
  from KCT  coimbatore working on biodiesel from
  jatropha   also i have tested different oils  but
  found jatropha is efficient.on what aspect you r
  working
regards 
  vidhya








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  i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT ON
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  treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and
  it grows in developing countries like india, Zambia,
  and other countries. Jatrpha plant also has madicinal
  value. If u need further details u can contact me
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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  Are there any members out there who know much about
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  Thanks,

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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-13 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc

See:

http://www.jatropha.de

Very good site run by German researcher Reinhard Henning

Edward Beggs
http://www.biofuels.ca


-
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 07:42 PM, pinky 22in wrote:

  hi
   i am vidhyaI from India.I have completed  M.Sc  in
 Environmental sciences In PSG  college  India, and
 completed my M.E
 environmental engineering  in Griffith university
 Australia and MBA in Alagappa University India.  now
 from KCT  coimbatore working on biodiesel from
 jatropha   also i have tested different oils  but
 found jatropha is efficient.on what aspect you r
 working
   regards
 vidhya








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 it grows in developing countries like india, Zambia,
 and other countries. Jatrpha plant also has madicinal
 value. If u need further details u can contact me
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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-13 Thread Sumit

x-charset ISO-8859-1Jatropha,

Based on the information I've seen the seed oil yeild is
0.21.  under normal cultivation there is a yeild of around 2,000 litres of
oil per hectare. Cetane on the oil is 64-67 making it more efficient than #2
Diesel.  Although the trees bear fruit in 6 months, does anyone know what
the hectare yeild on the fruit  at 6 months growth.  Life expectancy is also
low at 15 years, does anyone know when the tree reaches maturity and how
long it will bear fruit?  I also understand that the oil cakes cannot be
used in animal feed, is this due to toxicity levels?  Does anyone know?
There would be around 8 tonnes of oil cake per hectare.  Is there any other
use of the oil cake other than as fertilizer?  What is the nitrogen content?

Neem oil can also be used as biodiesel but is normally
used as a pesticide.  Does anyone know how long it takes before a neem tree
bears fruit?  Does anyone know what the yeild will be per hectare at this
stage?   Oil cakes can be used in feed after going through a solvent
extraction process, does anyone know what the process is.

I noticed that some of you have done research on the
biodiesel oils are there any suggestions on two crops one for short term
economically viable yeilds and another on the long term.  My understanding
is that Palm trees can produce 5,000 litres per hectare of oil but I don't
know what the growth period is before palm trees start to bear fruit.

We intend to start up a site in Jarkhand which will be run by rural
Santhal people and want to look at ways to allow them to produce fuel oil
cash crops within a one year period plus have additional higher yeild crops
that will produce economically viable fuel oils within 2-3 years.  Any
recommendations?  I'm also concerned about the oil cakes that will be
produced and would appreciate advice on what plants to avoid when dealing
with the disposal of the cakes.

Are there any persons who would like to consult on this topic with
regards to plantation, extraction, yeild and processing rates. Installation
of extraction and processing equipment and training?

Best regards,

Sumit








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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-13 Thread Keith Addison

x-charset ISO-8859-1There's information on jatropha and other yields here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html
Vegetable oil yields, characteristics: Journey to Forever

It also includes links to two online databases that will tell you a lot more:

NewCrop SearchEngine at the Center for New Crops  Plant Products at 
Purdue University -- Search for oil. Results: The following pages 
containing 'oil' were found -- hits 1-20 of 200. Results are 
hyperlinked to detailed factsheets.
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/SearchEngine.html

Plants For A Future -- Database Search -- See Search by Use - Select 
any of the following uses. Or select none and use the plant criteria 
below. Select Other Use - oil. Results: Other Use: Oil (460). 
Results are hyperlinked to detailed factsheets.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pfaf/D_search.html

For instance, NewCrop includes among many other references James A. 
Duke's excellent Handbook of Energy Crops. Here's what it says about 
jatropha:

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Jatropha_curcas.html

Jatropha curcas L.
Euphorbiaceae
Physic nut, Purging nut

Source: James A. Duke. 1983. Handbook of Energy Crops. unpublished.

1.  Uses
2.  Folk Medicine
3.  Chemistry
4.  Toxicity
5.  Description
6.  Germplasm
7.  Distribution
8.  Ecology
9.  Cultivation
10. Harvesting
11. Yields and Economics
12. Energy
13. Biotic Factors
14. References

Uses

According to Ochse (1980), the young leaves may be safely eaten, 
steamed or stewed. They are favored for cooking with goat meat, said 
to counteract the peculiar smell. Though purgative, the nuts are 
sometimes roasted and dangerously eaten. In India, pounded leaves are 
applied near horses' eyes to repel flies. The oil has been used for 
illumination, soap, candles, adulteration of olive oil, and making 
Turkey red oil. Nuts can be strung on grass and burned like 
candlenuts (Watt and Breyer-Brandwijk, 1962). Mexicans grow the shrub 
as a host for the lac insect. Ashes of the burned root are used as a 
salt substitute (Morton, 1981). Agaceta et al. (1981) conclude that 
it has strong molluscicidal activity. Duke and Wain (1981) list it 
for homicide, piscicide, and raticide as well. The latex was strongly 
inhibitory to watermelon mosaic virus (Tewari and Shukla, 1982). Bark 
used as a fish poison (Watt and Breyer-Brandwijk, 1962). In South 
Sudan, the seed as well as the fruit is used as a contraceptive (List 
and Horhammer, 1969-1979). Sap stains linen and can be used for 
marking (Mitchell and Rook, 1979). Little, Woodbury, and Wadsworth 
(1974) list the species as a honey plant.

Folk Medicine

According to Hartwell, the extracts are used in folk remedies for 
cancer. Reported to be abortifacient, anodyne, antiseptic, 
cicatrizant, depurative, diuretic, emetic, hemostat, lactagogue, 
narcotic, purgative, rubefacient, styptic, vermifuge, and vulnerary, 
physic nut is a folk remedy for alopecia, anasorca, ascites, burns, 
carbuncles, convulsions, cough, dermatitis, diarrhea, dropsy, 
dysentery, dyspepsia, eczema, erysipelas, fever, gonorrhea, hernia, 
incontinence, inflammation, jaundice, neuralgia, paralysis, 
parturition, pleurisy, pneumonia, rash, rheumatism, scabies, 
sciatica, sores, stomachache, syphilis, tetanus, thrush, tumors, 
ulcers, uterosis, whitlows, yaws, and yellow fever (Duke and Wain, 
1981; List and Horhammer, 1969-1979). Latex applied topically to bee 
and wasp stings (Watt and Breyer-Brandwijk, 1962). Mauritians massage 
ascitic limbs with the oil. Cameroon natives apply the leaf decoction 
in arthritis (Watt and Breyer-Brandwijk, 1962). Colombians drink the 
leaf decoction for venereal disease (Morton, 1981). Bahamans drink 
the decoction for heartburn. Costa Ricans poultice leaves onto 
erysipelas and splenosis. Guatemalans place heated leaves on the 
breast as a lactagogue. Cubans apply the latex to toothache. 
Colombians and Costa Ricans apply the latex to burns, hemorrhoids, 
ringworm, and ulcers. Barbadians use the leaf tea for marasmus, 
Panamanians for jaundice. Venezuelans take the root decoction for 
dysentery (Morton, 1981). Seeds are used also for dropsy, gout, 
paralysis, and skin ailments (Watt and Breyer-Brandwijk, 1962). 
Leaves are regarded as antiparasitic, applied to scabies; rubefacient 
for paralysis, rheumatism; also applied to hard tumors (Hartwell, 
1967-1971). Latex used to dress sores and ulcers and inflamed tongues 
(Perry, 1980). Seed is viewed as aperient; the seed oil emetic, 
laxative, purgative, for skin ailments. Root is used in decoction as 
a mouthwash for bleeding gums and toothache. Otherwise used for 
eczema, ringworm, and scabies (Perry, 1980; Duke and Ayensu, 1984). 
We received a letter from the Medical Research Center of the 
University of the West Indies shortly after the death of Jamaician 
singer Robert Morley, I just want you to know that this is not 
because of Bob Morley's illness, why I am 

Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-13 Thread Keith Addison

Hi Sumit

Jatropha seems to be something of the flavour of the month in India 
at the moment, and for awhile - I've been getting more and more 
enquiries about it from there. Might have something to do with this:

NEW DELHI: The Government is mulling investment of over Rs 17,500 
crore to undertake a comprehensive programme for extracting oil from 
Jatropha plantations for blending with diesel.
Business online - Monday, December 9, 2002
http://www.hinduonnet.com/bline/blnus/14091304.htm

Jatropha curcas is a good option, but there are many other good 
options. The idea that it's the best option just doesn't take into 
account how development projects work, if they work at all, and this 
type of best technology thinking is one reason they often don't 
work. Almost any locally grown crop would have more going for it, 
regardless of Jatropha's yield and general usefulness. That's no 
reason not to use Jatropha, but it has to be fitted in properly, and 
once again full local involvement is essential for that to happen.

For more re which please see:

http://journeytoforever.org/community.html
http://journeytoforever.org/community2.html
Community development: Journey to Forever

I cross-posted a message on jatropha in India from Dr A.D. Karve some time ago:

 I have conducted field experiments on both castor and Jatropha.  I had
already mentioned in a previous E-mail, that Jatropha was tested rather
widely in India and was given up because it was not found to be as high
yielding as the traditional oil crops in India.  I do not know how it
behaves in other countries, but under our agroclimatic and edaphic
conditions, Jatropha produces much more vegetative matter than fruits.  At
harvest, one has to search for the occasional fruit hidden behind all the
foliage that this plant produces.  It is found all over India as a wild
plant.  India has some 25 uncultivated species of trees that yield
non-edible oil. The seed of the wild trees is collected by villagers and
sold to merchants attending the weekly village markets, but no farmer would
ever think of growing them as a crop, because all of them are lower yielding
than the cultivated oil plants such as peanut, soybean, sunflower,
safflower, sesame, various mustards and rapes, coconut, etc. Among the
seasonal oilseeds, hybrid castor is the highest yielding (2.5 tonnes oil per
ha), but it is not an edible oil. The highest yield of edible oil, also
about 2.5 tonnes per ha, is obtained from coconut. Oil palm, which yields 6
tonnes of oil per hectare in Malaysia,  was tested and given up as low
yielding under Indian conditions.
Yours A.D.Karve
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=17993list=BIOFUEL

You should read these two previous messages:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/19667/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - musings

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/19671/
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - musings

Don't get too carried away by yield figures - yield isn't everything, 
and focusing on it can obscure other factors that could be more 
important.

Best wishes

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever


Jatropha,

Based on the information I've seen the seed oil yeild is
0.21.  under normal cultivation there is a yeild of around 2,000 litres of
oil per hectare. Cetane on the oil is 64-67 making it more efficient than #2
Diesel.  Although the trees bear fruit in 6 months, does anyone know what
the hectare yeild on the fruit  at 6 months growth.  Life expectancy is also
low at 15 years, does anyone know when the tree reaches maturity and how
long it will bear fruit?  I also understand that the oil cakes cannot be
used in animal feed, is this due to toxicity levels?  Does anyone know?
There would be around 8 tonnes of oil cake per hectare.  Is there any other
use of the oil cake other than as fertilizer?  What is the nitrogen content?

Neem oil can also be used as biodiesel but is normally
used as a pesticide.  Does anyone know how long it takes before a neem tree
bears fruit?  Does anyone know what the yeild will be per hectare at this
stage?   Oil cakes can be used in feed after going through a solvent
extraction process, does anyone know what the process is.

I noticed that some of you have done research on the
biodiesel oils are there any suggestions on two crops one for short term
economically viable yeilds and another on the long term.  My understanding
is that Palm trees can produce 5,000 litres per hectare of oil but I don't
know what the growth period is before palm trees start to bear fruit.

We intend to start up a site in Jarkhand which will be run by rural
Santhal people and want to look at ways to allow them to produce fuel oil
cash crops within a one year period plus have additional higher yeild crops
that will produce economically viable fuel oils within 2-3 years.  Any
recommendations?  I'm also concerned about the oil cakes that will be
produced and would appreciate advice on what plants to avoid when 

Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-13 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc

Good point Keith

Sumit, take a look at Honge  perhapsor one of the other 300 seeds 
identified in India!

http://www.tve.org/ho/doc.cfm?aid=1433lang=English

Edward Beggs
http://www.biofuels.ca





On Friday, February 13, 2004, at 08:53 AM, Keith Addison wrote:

 Hi Sumit

 Jatropha seems to be something of the flavour of the month in India
 at the moment, and for awhile - I've been getting more and more
 enquiries about it from there. Might have something to do with this:

 NEW DELHI: The Government is mulling investment of over Rs 17,500
 crore to undertake a comprehensive programme for extracting oil from
 Jatropha plantations for blending with diesel.
 Business online - Monday, December 9, 2002
 http://www.hinduonnet.com/bline/blnus/14091304.htm

 Jatropha curcas is a good option, but there are many other good
 options. The idea that it's the best option just doesn't take into
 account how development projects work, if they work at all, and this
 type of best technology thinking is one reason they often don't
 work. Almost any locally grown crop would have more going for it,
 regardless of Jatropha's yield and general usefulness. That's no
 reason not to use Jatropha, but it has to be fitted in properly, and
 once again full local involvement is essential for that to happen.

 For more re which please see:

 http://journeytoforever.org/community.html
 http://journeytoforever.org/community2.html
 Community development: Journey to Forever

 I cross-posted a message on jatropha in India from Dr A.D. Karve some 
 time ago:

 I have conducted field experiments on both castor and Jatropha.  I had
 already mentioned in a previous E-mail, that Jatropha was tested 
 rather
 widely in India and was given up because it was not found to be as 
 high
 yielding as the traditional oil crops in India.  I do not know how it
 behaves in other countries, but under our agroclimatic and edaphic
 conditions, Jatropha produces much more vegetative matter than 
 fruits.  At
 harvest, one has to search for the occasional fruit hidden behind all 
 the
 foliage that this plant produces.  It is found all over India as a 
 wild
 plant.  India has some 25 uncultivated species of trees that yield
 non-edible oil. The seed of the wild trees is collected by villagers 
 and
 sold to merchants attending the weekly village markets, but no farmer 
 would
 ever think of growing them as a crop, because all of them are lower 
 yielding
 than the cultivated oil plants such as peanut, soybean, sunflower,
 safflower, sesame, various mustards and rapes, coconut, etc. Among the
 seasonal oilseeds, hybrid castor is the highest yielding (2.5 tonnes 
 oil per
 ha), but it is not an edible oil. The highest yield of edible oil, 
 also
 about 2.5 tonnes per ha, is obtained from coconut. Oil palm, which 
 yields 6
 tonnes of oil per hectare in Malaysia,  was tested and given up as low
 yielding under Indian conditions.
 Yours A.D.Karve
 http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=17993list=BIOFUEL

 You should read these two previous messages:

 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/19667/
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - musings

 http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/19671/
 Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - musings

 Don't get too carried away by yield figures - yield isn't everything,
 and focusing on it can obscure other factors that could be more
 important.

 Best wishes

 Keith Addison
 Journey to Forever


 Jatropha,

Based on the information I've seen the seed oil 
 yeild is
 0.21.  under normal cultivation there is a yeild of around 2,000 
 litres of
 oil per hectare. Cetane on the oil is 64-67 making it more efficient 
 than #2
 Diesel.  Although the trees bear fruit in 6 months, does anyone know 
 what
 the hectare yeild on the fruit  at 6 months growth.  Life expectancy 
 is also
 low at 15 years, does anyone know when the tree reaches maturity and 
 how
 long it will bear fruit?  I also understand that the oil cakes cannot 
 be
 used in animal feed, is this due to toxicity levels?  Does anyone 
 know?
 There would be around 8 tonnes of oil cake per hectare.  Is there any 
 other
 use of the oil cake other than as fertilizer?  What is the nitrogen 
 content?

Neem oil can also be used as biodiesel but is 
 normally
 used as a pesticide.  Does anyone know how long it takes before a 
 neem tree
 bears fruit?  Does anyone know what the yeild will be per hectare at 
 this
 stage?   Oil cakes can be used in feed after going through a solvent
 extraction process, does anyone know what the process is.

I noticed that some of you have done research on 
 the
 biodiesel oils are there any suggestions on two crops one for short 
 term
 economically viable yeilds and another on the long term.  My 
 understanding
 is that Palm trees can produce 5,000 litres per hectare of oil but I 
 don't
 know what the growth period is before palm trees start to bear fruit.

We intend to start up a site in 

[biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-12 Thread Sumit

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   Are there any members out there who know much about Jatropha
and it's processing requirements.


Thanks,

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Re: [biofuel] Extractors and distillation of Jatropha

2004-02-12 Thread rajesh sk

i AM FROM iit DELHI PRESENTLY WORKING ON PROJECT ON Biodiesel PRODUCTION FROM 
jATROPHA. Jatropha is a treee born oil seed. The tree grows 4 to 5 meter and it 
grows in developing countries like india, Zambia, and other countries. Jatrpha 
plant also has madicinal value. If u need further details u can contact me 
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