Laura Conrad writes:
John seems that some people here are saying that in some cases cautionary
John accidentals ARE musically significant.
No, I think what we're saying is that cautionary accidentals are easy
to confuse with editorial accidentals, which *are* musically
significant.
In my
At 09:32 AM 11/17/2000 +, Phil Taylor wrote:
If I put in an accidental where none is required it's because I
want it displayed there, and if I put it in parentheses it's
because I want it to display that way.
When music is put on paper there are two inputs, the MUSICAL input, and the
STYLE
"John" == John Henckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John I think that cautionary accidentals are not musically significant.
John Whether or not to include them is an editorial decision. However, it
John seems that some people here are saying that in some cases cautionary
John
What I did for Skink was to write a parser in JavaCC (a java
compiler compiler) which builds a list of objects that represent
the elements of a tune - I then process that list sequentially
to create the notation. The plan is to process the same list
to produce the music, but since I haven't
It's true that when the new ABC standard become approved (I say, hopefully)
then a lot of software will need to be rewritten to handle the new file
format. Perhaps someone could write a really portable ABC parser and then
give away the source code that each developer can just "plug it in" to
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Laura Conrad wrote:
Either I don't understand what you're proposing, or you aren't talking
about the same thing as the rest of us. How do you let the person
printing the score control what accidentals are printed without
providing a syntax for doing so?
The (^)
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Laura Conrad wrote:
The (^) syntax is precisely a method for the person who wants to print
a sharp in parentheses to specify this. Whether the sharp is one that
the program would figure out to add or not. What's your idea for how
to get this?
Just in case I got too
"John" == John Atchley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John Just in case I got too wordy and unclear in my other
John response here's a bit of pseudo-code:
John if (accidental_in_abc_source is musically_necessary) {
John unconditionally display accidental
John } else {
John A.,
I agree with you 100% that cautionary accidentals can and should be handled
by the typesetting program, NOT with special syntax in the ABC music
file. I took the liberty to rewrite your pseudo code. IMO, if the user
specifies an unnecessary accidental, then the typesetter should
The syntax being discussed is nothing but a way of saying,
"this accidental isn't really necessary."
No, it's a way of saying "If you're a printer program, print this with
parentheses around the sharp". "This accidental isn't necessary" is
one of the things we use parentheses to indicate,
On Tue 14 Nov 2000 at 11:16PM -0600, John Henckel wrote:
Also I recommend the ABC standard should clarify whether repeated
accidentals are required or not. For instance, given K:C, is " ^c c | ^c "
three c-sharps in a row? Or is the second c a natural? According to
abcm2ps, the second
At 09:33 AM 11/15/2000 +, Phil wrote:
Seems reasonable, although just putting the accidental in a paren would
be more intuitive: (^)C etc. Harder to code though, as you have to
distinguish it from the other uses to which parens are put.
You're right. I will try to do this. I think it will
John Henckel wrote:
In abcm2ps there is a bug. If an accidental is used several times in the
same measure, it draws all of them. Thus, K:F and " =B =B " will print two
notes with naturals in front of them, but only the FIRST one should have a
natural sign. I am going to fix jhabc2ps so that
I recommend that when (if?) the ABC notation standard is updated, it should
contain syntax for "helper" accidentals.
I am going to hack my version of abcm2ps (called jhabc2ps) to support
accidentals in parentheses. Does anyone have a recommendation for the
syntax?
I am thinking about using
At 10:18 AM 10/8/2000 +0200, you wrote:
Anyway; how do I get the brackets 'round the accidental in abc?
I have the same question. Unfortunately, it appears to be not possible
using any of the variants of abc2ps.
We could allow syntax similar to that used for triplets, such as "v(^c",
to be
Hi
Often you see "reminder accidentals", that are actually not
neccesary. Since I don't know the exact term in english I give a quice
example: At some point you have a Db (the tune is in Eb) and in the next
bar you have a D natural. But to make sure it's actually played "D" and
not "Db" you put
"Atte" == Jensen Atte writes:
Atte Anyway; how do I get the brackets 'round the accidental in abc?
We've discussed this; there's a similar problem in early music, where
the notation didn't always include accidentals that "everybody" would
know to play, and modern editors want to put them
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