Has anyone migrated a big TSM server from AIX to Linux using the Extract/Insert
capability in 7.1.5? Have a 2.5TB DB to migrate, would like some idea of how
long it might take.
Bill Mansfield
the active or the passive copy, the backup is managed as a
single entity.
Bill Mansfield
Technical Consultant, Data/Storage Integrated Practice
Logicalis, Inc.
Suppose I do a LANFree backup to a GPFS sequential disk storage pool,
then deduplicate that pool. On restore, is the storage agent smart
enough to access the deduplicated data, or will this turn into a LAN
restore?
Bill Mansfield
installation. I've never been to Cornell.
I heard that the user attendance at the San Diego Share was
disappointing. I know I didn't go because of some personal issues, but
what about everybody else? Are two Shares a year too many? Are the
presentations not advanced or focused enough?
Bill
I'm interested to know whether anybody has TSM server running on the new
Power 6 processors. With their much increased I/O ability these should
be pretty effective TSM servers.
Bill Mansfield
Solution Architect
Logicalis, Inc.
is determined by the number of processors in servers
currently managed by TSM, with
no regard to the number of nodes or amount of data.
Bill Mansfield
Solution Architect
Logicalis, Inc.
Yes, both SUSE and RH are supported for the TLCM server, along with AIX,
Solaris, etc. 3GB RAM for a unified install.
There are agents for most of the client OSs supported by TSM.
Bill Mansfield
Solution Architect
Logicalis, Inc.
Subject:
Re: [ADSM-L] Lost in TSM licensing
From
that TSM should contain something to help out with licensing,
but be careful what you ask for - other vendors that do that enforce
licensing by server (you have to get specific license key registrations
for each server). Not a good tradeoff.
Bill Mansfield
Solution Architect
Logicalis, Inc.
already.
Bill Mansfield
Solution Architect
Logicalis, Inc.
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From:
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Has anyone tried out the new TSM for Copy Services TDP? It supports VSS
backups of Exchange DBs using a hardware based copy.
Bill Mansfield
Logicalis
another AIX box to try. Backup
is to a diskpool.
Server/Client info:
IBM pSeries 630
AIX 5.3 ML1
TSM server 5.3.1.0
TSM client 5.3.2.0
Bill Mansfield
Logicalis
a restore list that contains just the files that existed at the time
of the backup on Day 2?
Bill Mansfield
Logicalis
Does anybody know when TSM server will run on AIX 5.3?
Bill Mansfield
solution?
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Has anyone succeeded (or failed) to get TSM SNMP events to IBM director?
This is in a pure WINTEL operation, no RS6000's about.
Bill Mansfield
which might need auditing.
BTW, we've taken steps to better protect the TSM DB and Log disk, but this
scenario
lingers like a bad smell.
Thanks in advance!
Bill Mansfield
Anybody know when this might show up?
Bill Mansfield
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Is it just my TSM server, or does dsmadmc -consolemode not work in TSM
5.1.7?
dsmadmc -mountmode seems to work fine.
AIX 4.3.3 ML9
TSM server 5.1.7.0
TSM client 5.1.0.0 and 5.2.0.0
It works on my Windows TSM 5.2.0.0 server...
William Mansfield
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I would like to share a STK L180 library with 6 SCSI drives among
three independent TSM servers. No drive sharing required, just
want two drives per TSM server. It appears that the L180 has a
single control path. Can I get this done with ACSLS? Is anyone
doing something like this? Any advice
Does anyone know when IBM/Tivoli will provide a TDP for Websphere
Application Server version 4.0? The current TDP for apps only supports
3.5; taking WAS offline to get a consistent backup is mighty inconvenient
for a 24x7 application.
Bill Mansfield
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Is anyone using Big Brother to monitor their TSM server, or as an event
receiver?
William Mansfield
Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
Pretty good sized, Alex. What is your TSM server HW?
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The only thing I would add to Don's excellent description is
(1a) checkout the tape with option REMOVE=NO
This will keep TSM from deciding to try to use the tape in the midde of
the mksysb.
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How about the TSM 4.2 Technical Guide Redbook SG24-6277? Not powerpoint, I know...
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No copy storage pools... how do you handle damaged tapes?
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Under the old licensing a TSM server was permitted to back itself up
without an extra license as long as it used the shared memory protocol.
This would also be true under the new licensing, since you just count
processors across the board.
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Yikes. This is well beyond the size of what I would consider healthy in a
TSM database. And the picture is worse that you paint, since you will
likely have multiple backup versions of each file, and you didn't account
for 25% overhead. Sounds like a job for multiple TSM servers.
set eventretention days. Use q stat to see current value.
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AFAIK, you count all processors, TSM server and TSM clients. If you have
a 2-processor Unix server and 10 1-processor NT clients, you have 12
processors. You them multiple by the right $ amount depending on whether
you are regular or enterprise edition.
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a service of another computer
system that is typically referred to as a server.)
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AFAIK, you count all
for your help in advance,
Farshid
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You need adsmpipe. Look in ftp://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG244335/
Unsupported
Also, look at aggregate transfer rate: 43 GB/Sec is pretty good.
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You need adsmpipe. Look in ftp://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG244335/
Unsupported but works.
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Behdashti, Farshid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I checked the 5.1 admin manual first thing. No change to licensing from
4.3.
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Employees (P.A.C.E.)
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There is a good reason it keeps coming up: legitimate business
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There is a good reason it keeps coming up: legitimate business
requirements.
The suits (auditors, IRS, corp counsel, HIPAA, etc) demand
Brenda, were the recommendations stated for Sun platform? A MHz on one
platform is different on another platform.
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Yes, I have wanted this numerous times.
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If you can identify the files that naturally grow, in 4.2 you can exclude
them from compression, e.g.:
exclude.compression /.../*.zip
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My favorite scenario is the disgruntled employee: maintains critical
corporate data on his system, backs it up using encryption, deletes the
data from his system, then walks off holding the key hostage (paranoid,
aren't I). There isn't any way to know somebody is out there using
encryption.
There is a good reason it keeps coming up: legitimate business
requirements.
The suits (auditors, IRS, corp counsel, HIPAA, etc) demand to be able to
be able to reproduce any datum at given intervals for given durations.
Most often, that translates to restoring files that may change every day
to
80 GB is in the range of what I think of as barely manageable on your
average midrange Unix computer (IBM H80, Sun E450). I know folks run
bigger DBs (somebody's got one in excess of 160GB) but you need
substantial server hardware and very fast disks.
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Two good uses of domains:
- to get different default management classes for different nodes
- to delegate policy administration to different administrators for
different nodes.
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Cook, Dwight E [EMAIL
The other factor is storage growth. You probably want your TSM server
architecture to last awhile, and I've seen estimates ranging from 50-300%
storage CAGR (and consistently seen the estimates exceeded).
There are several approaches:
- Buy the biggest, most scalable stuff you can afford, and
It's pretty clearly stated in the 3.7.3 and 4.1 tech guide (SG24-6110),
page 56: ... data stored on the Tivoli Storage Manager server is
encrypted and thus unreadable by any malicious administrators.
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Try nohup dsmc schedule /dev/null /dev/null 21
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Since TSM is pretty rigorous about copying everything in a primary pool to the copypool, only way I can see is to split your primary pool in pools A and B. Send backups 1-3 to pool A, backup 4 to pool B. Do backup stgp on pool B, and send resulting tapes offsite. You'll need to fiddle with
Lots of good EBU information in the Using ADSM to Back Up Databases redbook,
SG24-4335-03.
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You need a TSM database backup roughly after step 2. I would prefer to
see migration later in the day, so that restores have a greater chance to
come from disk.
Regarding offsite volume reclamation: this generally applies only to
copypool volumes; you don't want to have primary volumes
It sounds like L2 is talking about the Journal feature, which is available
only on the Windows platforms.
You might want to try the -incrbydate option on your daily backups, that
will avoid the long download of info from the TSM server. I've seen this
cut backup times by 80%. You still need to
Most unpanaca like. I naively assumed that the dual copy would merge
backup streams from multiple nodes within collocation limits.
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The tradeoff there is loss of data integrity on disk files.
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The other thing associated with that redbook is some C code for adsmpipe,
which allows piping data through the api to TSM. You can make backups
without putting the data on disk.
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Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
Thomas A. La Porte
select filespace_name,filename,file_size from contents where
node_name='YOURNODE'
Or you can query the backups table to get different data:
select filespace_name,hl_name,ll_name,backup_date from backups where
node_name='YOURNODE'
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You might be looking for different retention periods for these
point-in-time backups from the rest of your data. You can do this handily
with archives, or you can use multiple nodenames per system to manage
different incremental series. This has been discussed at length before,
check the
Seems like you could use TSM event logging on the TSM server to send the
desired events to a FILETEXT receiver, and use Openview to monitor this
plain text file the way you're used to. There is information on this in
Chapter 20 of the Admin guide.
Alternatively, you could monitor the
No experience, but there's a (fairly) recent redpiece: Backup Recovery and
Media Services for OS/400 More Practical Information REDP0508.
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I thought the restriction was that both the Production database server and
Backup server (where the BCVs get mounted) had to be Solaris, but that the
TSM server could be on a third server of any type.
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The other thing to consider is that you have to use EBU with the TDPO for
7.x Oracle. Unlike RMAN, EBU requires fairly intense scripting and
detailed knowledge of the DBs.
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Senior Consultant
Solution Technology, Inc
Neil Rasmussen [EMAIL
Well there's the problem. Your various tape devices classes are using
type LTO. Your Tape Drives are of type GENERICTAPE. You need for
your tape drives to be defined as LTO, or your tapes (which are in storage
pools of type LTO) won't have anyplace to mount. Like Steffan said, you need to
some feedback from someone who
has experienced it first hand.
If you feel that this discussion is not in direct interest of the group,
please feel free to email me directly.
Mark Bertrand
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It's not an official pronouncement, but the Using IBM LTO Ultrium with Open
Systems redbook SG24-6502 has this statement on page 24:
Restriction: At this time, sharing a HBA with Disk and Tape is NOT
recommended. In many instances, the microcode or device drivers HBAs
required to support the
Given your requirement, you probably should not back up the file to TSM in
the first place. TSM is not designed for the kind of absolute destruction
you need; for example, your file is (theoretically; let's not reopen this
discussion!) recoverable from the onsite primary tape and offsite
Microsoft does not support Brick Level backup/restore for Exchange, so TSM
doesn't either. ArcServe and some other vendors (mis)use an API to get
brick level capability, but rumor has it that performance is bad and
restores are chancy. Tivoli as a rule does not implement software that
I'd run a TSM audit library at the end, just to make sure I got all the
tapes back in.
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Seay, Paul
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Ben, use the *st or *stc device. There is a section on how to configure
3583/Solaris/TSM in the Using IBM LTO Ultrium with Open Systems redbook
SG24-6502, see page 158. You will find this redbook very helpful.
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Having a mksysb backup in TSM is pretty useless unless you are in a NIM
environment. The mksysb made directly to tape has 4 sections, the one made
to a file only has one section. In theory you can construct a bootable
tape from that section, but I've never been able to get it to work right.
1. We're no more prickly than other folks on single-focus lists. I've
been on other lists where an advertising pitch would generate a ton of
flaming retrospam (there's a mental image!) But there is no explicit set
of house rules for this list as there is on others. My problem is I don't
have
Throw 'em away. Data is more valuable than tape.
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Just one perspective... How about linking the whole thing together with a
SAN, so that both TSM servers can see both libraries. You could then
create storage pool, TSM DB backups from each servers into the remote
library. The DR plan could be created in an NFS mounted volume on the
remote
Me too. Pretty tough to police an unmoderated list. Perhaps if Tina
gets enough negative feedback she'll think twice next time.
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Justin Derrick
Look for adsmpipe at ftp://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG244335/. It's
an old, unsupported utility that allows this.
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Justin Bleistein
Cartridges have a 10 year warranty replacement
Call the vendor and get a replacement tape.
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Throw 'em away. Data
Looks like you're missing the LTO version Atape driver, or you need updates
LTO drive firmware.
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Davidson, Becky
Becky.Davidson@STo: [EMAIL
TSM does not send client passwords in the clear. Here's the text from the
TSM concepts redbook.
Because the storage repository of Tivoli Storage Manager is the place where
all
the data of an enterprise are stored and managed, security is a very vital
aspect
for Tivoli Storage Manager. To ensure
I would also suggest that you look at the 3584 tape library. It has some
limitations vs. the 3494, but it is considerably less expensive. The major
differences are:
- The 3584 cannot be attached to a mainframe. Not an issue when replacing
a 3575.
- The LTO drives in the 3584 are poorer at load
The TDPs tend to create separate filespaces for the database objects. I
usually do a q occ report and see how many objects there are in the
filespace for the database. Indirect but efficient.
Managing expiration is the job of the TDP or application software.
Ordinarily a new filename is used
If you are intent on shutting down your database first, you don't need the
TDP, and in fact the TDP needs to run with the DB up. You will do offline
full backups.
The TDP uses RMAN, which is included with Oracle 8. RMAN implements
incremental backups, among many other things. The TDP allows
Depending on circumstances, this might be a candidate for adaptive
differencing, TSMs version of a block level incremental. You will still
have to at least once do a complete backup of the big files though.
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I usually try to look for running sessions and processes first, to make
sure I'm not going to whack anything important. I also try to dismount
tapes before shutting down TSM. Depending on your library, it can be
various shades of ugly to get things back in sync.
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Bernard
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The longest shortwave cable allowed is 500 meters, for 50um multimode fiber
(ESS FC 3022). You just need to get longer cables than the 31m cables
included with the ESS. For reference, look at the intro to SAN redbook,
Justin,
TSM isn't really designed for a regular offsite rotation. The intention is
to send the copy storagepool tape offsite each day, regardless of how full
it is. You then perform offsite reclamation, which uses primary storage
pool tapes (or optical) to recombine the data from several
There are two ways to do this, depending on whether you want to just do it
once or whether you want to do this routinely. For one-off restores, I
usually just create a dsm.opt on the target file with a virtualnodename
parameter pointing to the source data, then say dsmc -optfile=...
.
Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant
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Daniel, sorry, but that's not correct. Two registered nodes
I've always thought of NTBackup as the push scooter. I think Backup Exec
is more like a Vespa (with apologies to Vespa owners). Much cheaper and
easier to operate than TSM for one user, only able to move one type of
cargo (NT data, and that in small quantities), and much more likely to
cause
to ask you. However we are discussing,
sharing opinions and I will be glad to read what people on the list think.
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I also contacted Tivoli, and got the answer (in writing) that you register
each machine, regardless of how many nodes there are registered to TSM for
the machine. Guess it depends on who at Tivoli you ask (or, perhaps, what
country you live in).
It's surprising that no one at Tivoli has weighed
Depends on your technical background. Tivoli has built better wizards into
the NT version, but us crusty Unix guys still have problems making a
Windows installation go. I know I have a lot more trouble configuring tape
libraries on 2000 than I do on AIX.
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box. I
already presented my opinion in answer to your (Bill Mansfield) post on the
thread Licensing MS SQL cluster - managed system for LAN/SAN and TDP
licenses? on 19.11.2001:
How can we distinguish between two nodes on two machines, two nodes on the
same OS and two nodes on different OS images
mtlib -l /dev/lmcp0 -qI
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that will re-inventory the library.
Thanks,
Jim
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As I understand it, one needs to buy one managed system (LAN or SAN) per
managed SYSTEM, regardless of how many nodes are registered on that system.
The 'q license' report is not necessarily a good indication of how many
client BA licenses you have to buy (it works well for TDPs and libraries).
On a regular TSM installation those parms from Ben's email are set in
rc.adsmserv. Have you checked to see if they're set in startadsm? If not,
sounds like time to lodge a complaint with SSD.
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Yes, the TSM licensing is anything but clear. I can't speak to the client
expiration issue, but I've looked very hard into the licensing aspects.
Here's a bit of what it says in the announcement letter for the USA
value-based program:
As long as you provide for protection against disk failures in your primary
pool, this is fine. You'll still need tape for copy pools, since they have
to be sequential devices and you want offsite copies in any case, right?
The premise behind migration from disk to tape is that tape is cheaper
The other thing about this is that if you are making incremental backups to
a local FILE class device along with your full backup series, DRM will not
handle the full backup tapes. Makes sense if you think about it ... DRM
cannot assure the incrementals are in the vault.
You should have in your server directory a file ibmtsm.mac. This is
coded for the tivoli event handler, but can easily be chnaged for whatever
event handler you wish to use.
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Eric, is it possible that you have the bulk I/O station in the balky
library configured as storage?
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