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Dear Berner -l. After trying to switch to the Yahoo site, I gave up. They insist on credit card numbers, etc., etc., etc. Way too much private information, more than I give out , to just any one. If this is the only alternative, to receive berner-l, I must unsubscribe. I really have enjoyed being a subscriber, and will miss the daily messages. Shirley Bartmess [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. If there is anyone who has a dog born in Arizona, March 11, 1996, would you please contact me? My Chrissie would like to hear about where her brothers and sisters are, and how they are doing.
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Hi All! Very concerned mommy heremy six month berner boy barnum got fixed and was having his belly button hernia repaired over the weekend well my Dr. call me late in the evening that barnum was OK but only a hour after surgery was very bruised and ouzzing...and has never seen this for such routine procedure.and of course didn't sleep a wink that night worried about my poor 80lb boythe Doc is running a bunch of blood tests.he says that there is a possibility of von wilderbrane(if i am spelling correct)if this a common disease in berners. has anyone encountered such a problem for a nuder he is so bruised from the top of his belly all the way passed his scrotum.so nervous. come to think of it we had problems with our bailey as well when she was fixed.(different hospital) they had to operate a 2nd time cause she had an infection. My kids are going to be the death of me Welcome to my circus... Dana West Milford, NJ
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forwarded for Heidi, please respond to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heidi, we will figure out why your email address isn't on the L right now) - Pat It is with much, much sadness and many tears that I write this message. My sweet, sweet Deija girl was put to rest yesterday afternoon. She went peacefully here at home and was surrounded by everyone that loved her, she was my heart and soul and I will miss her terribly. AM CAN CH Santis Nobel Deija AM CAN CD, CGC May you rest in peace sweetie Heidi Rohrbach Bernina Kennel Saguenay, Quebec, Canada Check any e-mail over the Web for free at MailBreeze (http://www.mailbreeze.com)
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Posted in plain text for Sherry: ! have been awake pretty much since Wednesday morning but I had to post this.. I am so proud of my girl Macy..aka... Santera's Evening Masquerade.. Macy freewhelped 18 beautiful Berner babies yesterday. 9 males and 9 females. She began her labor at about 5:30 am yesterday morning. Her first pup was delivered at 8:30 am .. she continued at a relaxed pace for the next 18 hours. Her last pup a small female was delivered at 2:30 am this morning,. sadly that last pup couldn't hang on and we lost her this morning.. Macy had no drugs of any type.. She did it all completely on her own. Puppies all weigh between 14 and 16 ozs. and all but 1 have very nice markings.. 1 has very high white boots on both his front feet. I want to thank Macy's breeder Sandy Novocin for allowing me to choose Macy. I went to Sandy looking for a bitch that had good orthopedics and longevity that could possibly also bring free whelping into my lines.. I have had alot of problems in my lines with having to section everything for very small litters. Macy has been everything I could ask for and more..She has a wonderful temperment and is a nice moving bitch with beautiful expression. The daddy to this litter is my Rigg's..Sunshine-Von Engel's Lethal Weapon. Celia Cuellar bred this wonderful boy. I was fortunate to get him.. He is a beautiful big boy with lots of type..He is a wonderful ambassador to the breed and I am hopeful that he will lend some of his size and beautiful type to this litter. As an added bonus Mom and Dad are both excellents with clear elbows and have nornal eyes, hearts and thryoids. Sandy and Celia.. Thank you for allowing these 2 wonderful dogs to be a part of my breeding program. It is quite an accomplishment in this breed to have a bitch that will free whelp.. let alone such a large litter..and with NO help. I see lot's of supplementing in my future..Anyone know how to find out if there has been a larger litter than this? maybe Macy is a new Titleholder after all now to get some sleep Sherry Von Engel BMD's
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Hi, Could I please be removed from the mailing list. Although I LOVE reading about the Berner experiences, I just dont have that kind of time to read! Thanks very much! Trina ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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I wanted to say thank you once again to those who offered support and advice over Kelby's elbow dysplasia. We were going with a non surgery option until I couldn't stand to see her in such pain anymore. She went downhill too rapidly for my liking. We had surgery two weeks ago and her recovery has been incredible. The surgeon is amazed and I think even at this early stage it was the right thing to do for us. She's a different dog and of course she thinks she's all better! The stitches have just come out and now we keep her quiet and wait and see. Thanks again. I'm not necessarily advocating surgery. It was an extremely tough decision but in this case I think the right one. Jess MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. Find our more.
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Does anyone know who owns/bred this dog SwisskissQ's Molly born May 16th, 2002,( we did not breed this dog ) Madeline Swisskiss Bernese Mountain Dogs 'Loyal Loving Companions' [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.swisskiss-bmd.com Don't Breed If You Don't Rescue!
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In a message dated 1/31/2003 4:03:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have an 8 mo old Berner who is quite smart. We would like to start training him for agility. Hi Denise, My thoughts follow, but I do agility for fun and not competition so this is a pretty inexpert view. There are so many skills involved in agility, it's never too young to start working on many of them. You just want to keep in mind that Deuce's joints are still developing and therefore somewhat vulnerable and...that he's a teenager so his brain can go 'out to lunch' at any time without notice g. So, my approach to agilty with a young dog is to work heavily on my relationship with the dog, teach them to work at a distance, follow my body, that kind of thing. I'll do the obstacles with my young dog BUT no where near competition height. I'd do low jumps, set the A-frame wide open (just prop up the center a bit if the chains won't go far enough), lowered dog walk, lowered teeter, etcand avoid a lot of repetition. What you're training for is the dog to do each obstacle in a FULLY controlled manner...not as a wild eyed hot shot. It's those flying leap moments that I think pose the most risk for youngsters so preventing them is the real challenge of doing agility with a teen. Agility puts the most stress on the front assembly of the dog, less on the hips. To get an idea of why this is so important to know, take a close look at a dog's skeleton. You'll see that the front end is made up of a succession of bones that aren't held together by much at all. No nice, tight, full contact support like you see in the ball and socket joint of the hips. In the front, it's bone to bone with little holding things in place but ligaments. Keeping that picture in mind will help guide you in deciding what and how much to have Deuce practice. And the decision IS up to you... some teachers are more knowledgeable about working with a large dog than others but the final decision on what to do and not during class is yours. Drop an email to Kris Osojnicki, [EMAIL PROTECTED], for info on the Berner Agility elist. I'm sure there's lots of experience there to take advantage of. ~ Sherri Venditti
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Hi Everyone- I have an 8 mo old Berner who is quite smart. We would like to start training him for agility. Have found a trainer who gives an 8 week course for this. My question is this- is he too young to start training for this? I wouldn't want to do anything to harm him - I know he has alot of growing to do and wouldn't want to jeopardize his hips or legs. Anyone have any advice for me? Love listening to all of your suggestions and advice everyday. I've learned sooo much. Thanks again for any help you can give me. Denise Deuce
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Denise, Deuce and all, I started training Boomer at about 12 weeks. Of course I didn't have him jump or do the dangerous stuff at that age. But the earlier you expose to the baby teeter, tunnel, ladder on the ground (to teach him where his feet are), etc., the easier it is later. Boomer went to the big show in Cleveland in December in the preferred classes so he didn't have to jump full height. He wasn't quit 19 months old and, other than knocking off a bar here and there (He's still learning how to jump. It's hard for a big dog to know where to gather himself between jumps so that the take-off is in the right place.), he performed beautifully and loved every minute of it. Go ahead and get your 8 mo. old started. Just don't jump him over 12 inches at first. By the end of the class you might be able to do 16 if it's elbow height or below. Don't have him go over the full height A-frame for a while either. Coming down can be hard. And make sure he's steady before trying the dog walk very high. You don't want him to fall off and hurt himself. Hopefully these are safeguards that your trainer will have built into the beginner class. Claudia Brydon in NW PA Barney OA NAJ (Aussie) Boomer (Bernese Mountain Dog) Mo (Gordon Setter Granddog) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@prairienet.orgBernes eMt.DogMalingList Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: (no subject) Hi Everyone- I have an 8 mo old Berner who is quite smart. We would like to start training him for agility. Have found a trainer who gives an 8 week course for this. My question is this- is he too young to start training for this? I wouldn't want to do anything to harm him - I know he has alot of growing to do and wouldn't want to jeopardize his hips or legs. Anyone have any advice for me? Love listening to all of your suggestions and advice everyday. I've learned sooo much. Thanks again for any help you can give me. Denise Deuce
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 6:43:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess my real question to the list is what are some of the more unusual/unique tricks that your Berners do? I haven't done it...but the cutest trickster I've seen was a Sheltie. When her owner sneezed, she raced across the room, grabbed a box of tissues, and returned to offer them to her owner. Very cute... -Sherri V.
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well Bogen has a trick everyone loves - except Tarheel fans. I aim my finger at him like a gun and ask Would you rather be a live Tarheel or a dead Cavalier? and he flops down and rolls over his back with all 4 feet in the air. At 11 years old he still does this trick with a smile on his face!! My mother's border collie mix also did this trick but he added theatrics to it and would slowly dissolve into the ground groaning like the movie stars then slowly roll over on his back and hold perfectly still. Bogen wags his tail the whole time so he leaves the theatrics to the hard crash he makes when he hits the floor. Sorry UNC fans ;) Go Wahooos! Molly and the gang Charlottesville, VA PS - The Cavalier is the mascot for the University of Virginia
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Hello Everyone, Berkley and I started our Intermediate Obedience Class on Monday. One of the things we will be doing in our 7 week class is teaching our dogs an extra trick on our own. This is supposed to help us start thinking like a trainer, so after the class is over we'll be able to continue training on our own. They'll of course help us out during the class with our special tricks. Then at the end of the 7 weeks at the end of our final we'll have a talent show do show off all of our new tricks/behaviors. I'm looking for ideas. Something more fun than rollover, or shake. People in the past have taught their dogs to go to their crate, fetch their slippers, and things like that. I guess my real question to the list is what are some of the more unusual/unique tricks that your Berners do? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Kelly Williamson Berkley (hey mom, I already know how to go to my crate, can't that count?) Cisco - Golden (I never learned my trick) Leesburg, VA
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Friday morning on the Today Show they interviewed a family that had been traveling in Tenn., was pulled over, made to get out of their car, their small dog jumped out and the police shot it! It was the most awful example of police stupidity! Does anyone know of a site where we could go and voice our outrage? Diana Beishline
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do you know the book/pamphlet from dog wise called the cautious canine. i got it from dogwise. perhaps it would help star and some of her barc friends. andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/
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Subject: Re: leash training
All of this talk about leash training, or more specifically, whether or not our berners need to exercise freely off leash couldn't have come at a moreironic...time. We have a large backyard that is slightly broken into segments. There is a large grass area, patios and, beyond all of this (behind the gates) is a forested creek. Many OLD oak trees throughout the entire property. Dog nirvana, you think? Well, the wood fences on either side of our property are extremely old and are only standing because of the thick row of shrubs bracing it. Because of this Zeus is clipped to the end of a long tether line, so he cannot leave our property through the fence. To make a long story short, I've always felt so guilty about this tether, thoroughly convinced that he needs FREEDOM to run and play without being attached to anything. So, I finally became serious (after seeing that constantly nagging hubby wasn't gonna do it) and decided to fix the damn fences myself. All of them. This decision inspired me and I announced to everyone that I was not only going to fix the fence THAT SOMEONE ELSE WHO LIVES HERE SHOULD FIX BUT HASN'T AND BETTER BE FEELING GUILTY CUZ THIS IS HIS LAST CHANCE TO STEP IN AND BE A DOMESTIC HERO (he didn't), I was going to make the entire yard Air Tight! Zeus would have absolute freedom to go anywhere his little heart desired, so long as it stayed on Sufi ground. After carefully measuring (with a leashed Zeus excitedly by my side) and budgeting, I made multiple trips to carry boards, beams, and bags of Home Depot goodies home. After spending WHO KNOWS how many hours out there nailing, bracing, cutting (had to get through all the shrubs just to get to what was left of the fences), stringing water misters all along the length of both (Zeus will need something to cool him off since he's going to be speeding through all this, right?), finally I was done. I was so excited to set Zeus free! That was a week ago. He still prefers the couch. Every day, at least a million times, I lead him out on his leash, chirping HAPPY SEE, ZEUS? SEE? and throw toys for him in a HAPPY frenzy. He will run after a toy, up go my hopes, only to grab his favourite one and race back into the house. On the couch. Currently there are treaties thrown randomly throughout the yard to encourage grazing, maybe lure him further out. The cats, squirrels and raccoons love them. The one who's loving this the most? My husband SO, this debate about free range berners, combined with my recent experiences ( expenses) has taught me that some berners are probably very happy receiving their exercise on the leash (hello, Zeus), while others seek more freedom of movement.. Living and learning in the Bay Area, Antoinette Zeus the (very lazy) Moose
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SO, this debate about free range berners, combined with my recent experiences ( expenses)has taught me that some berners are probably very happy receiving their exercise on the leash (hello, Zeus), while others seek more freedom of movement. Antoinette, Good for you! All your HARD work has paid off in peace of mind. Even though he seems to be unimpressed with all your efforts you can rest assured that he is safe and sound and can safely run free in his back yard. Also no other dogs can get in to harm him and you'll never have to worry that he could get tangled up on that lead run you had previously. Even with a swivel I've heard of dogs ending up strangled while tied to one of those. So, even if it may seem like you did it all for nothing, you didn't. You have proven in another way that you are a loving and responsible dog owner. : ) Take a bow! Bernerly, Mary Jeff Mary Chapdelaine SnoBear Berners [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snobear.freeyellow.com
