[CTRL] Fwd: AMERICA - ARE YOU SLEEPING? PART V

2000-10-03 Thread Bob Stokes





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   AMERICA - ARE YOU SLEEPING? PART V

   
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We are down to the wire, when it comes to electing a president. As
much as I would like to believe a 3rd party candidate can make it,
the hard cold facts plainly declare they are dead in the water, for
they simply are NOT known. They have been choked out of the mainstream
press, so the "educational process" has been voided. MOST Americans
only know of Gore, or Bush to vote for.

I have read (and even contributed) to the negative comments about
Governor George Bush. He is better than Gore over gun rights, but is
to some extent, a compromiser. But mark my words, he is not GORE!
What REALLY got my attention was Bush's pick for the Vice President
slot, Mr. Dick Cheney, which is VERY pro-gun, comparatively to Rep.
Ron Paul or Sen. Bob Smith. You need to go and read the article we
sent out about Dick Cheney's voting record. No doubt this article
is one of the most important articles we have sent this year! Go to:

http://www.goa-texas.org/cgi-bin/alerts/mb.pl?PN=65

Also, below is a very interesting article from my dear Australian friend
from "down under". We need to learn from our Brothers in Arms in Australia.
He gives his opinion over the election we face in November 2000.

I urge you to consider what we face in this election. There will be a few
supreme court appointments by the next president, as well. Will they be
anti-gun or pro-gun appointments?? AMERICA - ARE YOU SLEEPING?

With Respect,

Gun Owners Alliance
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Chris,

I have followed with great interest the posts and news briefs on the
Presidential election between George Bush and Al Gore and in
particular Gore's pronouncements prior to and during the campaign
about 'sensible gun laws'.

I am convinced that much of Gore's calls for these laws are comes
directly from Rebecca Peters, late of gun control fame in Australia
and New Zealand, now sponsored by the Souros Foundation in the US and
the HCI and it's clones.

The reason I am convinced is the striking similarity between Gore's
plans and the reality of the laws now in place in my country.

Examples are the push with Clinton for closing the 'gun show
loophole' which is now implemented in Australia by  forbidding the
transfer of firearms from one owner to another either by sale or
gift, except through a licenced firearm dealer so that there is a
paper trail of who owns the guns.  Add to this the fact that no one
can own a gun unless they have appropriate licence and your licence
details include all firearms approved under that licence including
make, model and serial numbers.

Recently I gave one of my pistols to my daughter for her to shoot and
I had to firstly have her apply for her pistol licence, then apply
for permission for her to acquire a handgun, deposit the handgun with
my local firearms dealer on his firearms register, wait for
permission for her to acquire the pistol come through, and then take
the police permission form to the dealer before he could then list
the new owner in his register before my daughter could take it home.
How long did this take?  About 3 months.

Next example is the call for gun owners to show a government approved
need to own a firearm - if you can't prove that you meet the
government list of approved needs - you simply cannot get a licence -
no licence, no gun.  That is of course for law abiding citizens.

Once Gore gets that one in - all he has to do is change by regulation
the approved list of needs to remove self defence, just like in
Australia, he won't need more legislation to do it.  Once this is in
for handguns - it's a breeze to include all firearms

Next, like Australia, hunting with handguns will be banned in all
States - whoops there goes another approved reason to own a hand gun.
Like the death of a thousand cuts it will come to you bit by bit
until he has bled you to death.

And finally the ultimate will be the removal of self defence as a
valid government approved reason to carry any thing that could be a
weapon at all, pocket knives, sprays, ballistic vests.   I remember
speaking to a good friend of mine in the local police force 

[CTRL] TV Towers

2000-10-03 Thread Alamaine

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From http://www.mediachannel.org/views/oped/kaca.shtml

OP-ED | TV Towers
HOME
September 21, 2000
A Tower Aflame:
Media, Metaphor and Revolution

By Ann-Britt Kaca
When the Moscow television tower burst into flames at the end of August, the
fire blacked out 10 million TV screens and made news all over the world. And so
did President Vladimir Putin's sinister comment: The fire at the Ostankino
tower is a metaphor for the state of the nation.

Metaphors, symbols and sayings are mighty mind-setters. They captivate our
minds and focus our attention to one main point, effectively excluding others.
Putin used the burning of the Ostankino television tower, once hailed as a
symbol of Soviet supremacy, as a metaphor for the desperate economic need of
Russia. The global media played along with this tune, once again showcasing
images of Russia's decay. But there is another largely untold story to be
extracted from Putin's metaphor: TV towers are more than symbols — indeed they
are very concrete centers of mind control, distributing the flow of information
and entertainment.

In Putin's Chechen war the TV tower in Grozny was recently a Russian target and
so were the Baltic TV towers during the events that finally lead to the
collapse of Communism. The battle over media and the role of underground and
international media preceding the final breakdown of communism in Central
Europe and the Baltics is a story that still needs to be told: It wasn't about
the free flow of capital, it was about the free flow of information.

It was one of those ironic twists of history. Putin, with the Ostankino tower
threatening to collapse into a heap of glowing steel and cables and with state
television mute, had to borrow air from the private broadcaster, NTV, with whom
he is involved in an escalating media war over intricate business transactions,
ownership and control of information.

The Ostankino tower was erected in 1967 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of
the Russian revolution. Higher than the Eiffel Tower and the Empire State
Building, it was then the world's tallest structure. Watching it burn,
surrounded by Russian soldiers, charged my memory, bringing back flickering
images of the Baltic TV towers surrounded by Soviet Black Berets, the feared
"special forces." I vividly recalled that the only armed clashes during the
upheavals that finally ended communist rule were over — and at the bases of —
television towers.

Who still remembers that the popular movements which overthrew governments and
changed the system began with a challenge against the sovereign media?
Media critique was a powerful current which ran through the Eastern European
and Baltic revolutions from the very beginning. Furious protests against
manipulative and dishonest media, demands for fair media access for
oppositional voices with different views representing other values than the
ruling, red bourgeois elite embraced.

Truth, Voice And Solidarity

In the Polish Solidarity's vocabulary, words like "dignity" and "truth" were
more than buzzwords. They referred to a corrupt totalitarian system of
economical disaster and decay in which the authorities and the media were
united in lies about the past (i.e. history), as well as about the present
reality — a society which forced its citizens to cheat and lie to make it
through the daily chase for trivial commodities like toilet paper, coffee and
cheese.

"The word truth appeared with the frequency of a punctuation mark in the
statements, graffiti and conversation of Solidarity," writes British historian
and journalist Timothy Garton Ash in his excellent book "The Polish Revolution:
Solidarnosc."

"We need truth as much as we need coal," said Solidarity leader Lech Walesa.
In the 1980s Solidarity opinion surveys in Poland, the demand for media that
did not lie came second only to the demand for freedom.

The complex role of media, the impact of symbols and propaganda in the broad
sense of distortions, buzzwords and silence, were fully understood by
generations of Poles. The communist "New Speak" was never as totally dominating
in Poland as it was in other Soviet bloc countries. There were independent
intellectuals who, from the 1970s on, simply started to print themselves what
the censorship forbade. And the church spoke a different language, heard by the
masses while in underground so-called "Flying Universities," a language
scholars and professors had for decades been teaching people in private flats.

Thesis 31 of the Polish Solidarity Program declared: "The very language of
propaganda, which damages the way we want to express thoughts and feelings, is
a dangerous tool of lies. The union will seek to give back to society the
Polish language, which allows people truly to understand each other."

When the communist regime decreed martial law in Poland, imposing curfews,
outlawing the Solidarity movement and forbidding meetings, tanks and armed
soldiers guarded the TV station.

Banned, with no 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Covert War Against Rap-A-Lot

2000-10-03 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Covert War against Rap A Lot said to have amassed a small fortune
peddling what?

Presumable this man was under arrest for he cocaine in his possession,
which was a considerable amount, and this letter could be styled as self
serving to say the least.

Many of these rock stars and associates are used for smuggling drugs -
the finally catch one and the case goes down the tube because he is just
a poor deprived black trying to make a fast buck selling "hate" music
resulting in "hate" crimes?

Wonder what the guys real name is - could he be like the acid head
Washington, Rabbi of Jonestown of Black House of Israel who when
returning to USA was promptly arrested on old warrants for murder?

Surely, this Prince is not an intellectual genius - just a good drug
runner - but for whom?

Texas?  Well check USA style Odessa route.

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[CTRL] Significant discovery in Bible code

2000-10-03 Thread Kelly

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http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/news_week.ssf?/news/oregonian/00/10/nw_11bible01.frame

An Ashland Hebrew scholar, using an Israeli computer system, finds a 22
letter message in Isaiah

Sunday, October 1, 2000  From The Associated Press

ASHLAND -- A Hebrew scholar and a mathematician have found what they
call one of the most significant discoveries in the field of Bible code
research.

Nathan Jacobi, an Ashland scientist and Hebrew teacher, found a
seven-word sentence encoded in the Old Testament book of Isaiah.
"Everybody I've shown it to thinks it's phenomenal," said Jacobi.
The longest code to date had been 13 letters long, but the new code is
22 letters long.

The chances of finding a sentence-length code in a Hebrew text is one
out of 685 billion times 1 billion, said Ed Sherman, an actuary. He owns
an Ashland firm that runs insurance statistics for several Fortune 500
companies.

Jacobi and Sherman's newest code is Shakak Meal Yeshua Shmi Az Sasu
Avim, which is translated into "Gushing over Yeshua was my mighty name
and the clouds rejoiced."

Yeshua is the commonly agreed-upon Hebrew name for Jesus, Jacobi said.
The code was found in Isaiah 53, a text that prophecies the coming of
Jesus Christ as messiah. Scholars attribute the text to a prophet who
lived six centuries before Christ was born.

Jacobi describes his own spiritual beliefs as neither Jewish nor
Christian. Bible codes are found by searching the Hebrew text for
letters at certain intervals to form words. Sherman and Jacobi use an
Israeli computer program that eliminates spaces between words, then
chooses every third letter, for example, to find hidden messages.

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[CTRL] Repellant Laws

2000-10-03 Thread Alamaine

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September 24, 2000

Shouldn't we repeal the gun laws ...
if it'll save a single child?

Jessica Lynne Carpenter is 14 years old. She knows how to shoot; her father
taught her. And there were adequate firearms to deal with the crisis that arose
in the Carpenter home in Merced, Calif. -- a San Joaquin Valley farming
community 130 miles southeast of San Francisco -- when 27-year-old Jonathon
David Bruce came calling on Wednesday morning, Aug. 23.

There was just one problem. Under the new "safe storage" laws being enacted in
California and elsewhere, parents can be held criminally liable unless they
lock up their guns when their children are home alone ... so that's just what
law-abiding parents John and Tephanie Carpenter had done.

Some of Jessica's siblings -- Anna, 13; Vanessa, 11; Ashley, 9; and John
William, 7 -- were still in their bedrooms when Bruce broke into the farmhouse
shortly after 9 a.m.

Bruce, who was armed with a pitchfork -- but to whom police remain unable to
attribute any motive -- had apparently cut the phone lines. So when he forced
his way into the house and began stabbing the younger children in their beds,
Jessica's attempts to dial 9-1-1 didn't do much good. Next, the sensible girl
ran for where the family guns were stored. But they were locked up tight.
"When the 14-year-old girl ran to a nearby house to escape the pitchfork-
wielding man attacking her siblings," writes Kimi Yoshino of the Fresno Bee,
"she didn't ask her neighbor to call 9-1-1. She begged him to grab his rifle
and 'take care of this guy.' "

He didn't. Jessica ended up on the phone.

By the time Merced County sheriff's deputies arrived at the home, 7-year-old
John William and 9-year-old Ashley Danielle were dead. Ashley had apparently
hung onto her assailant's leg long enough for her older sisters to escape.
Thirteen-year-old Anna was wounded but survived.

Once the deputies arrived, Bruce rushed them with his bloody pitchfork. So they
shot him dead. They shot him more than a dozen times. With their guns.

Get it?

The following Friday, the children's great-uncle, the Rev. John Hilton, told
reporters: "If only (Jessica) had a gun available to her, she could have
stopped the whole thing. If she had been properly armed, she could have stopped
him in his tracks." Maybe John William and Ashley would still be alive,
Jessica's uncle said.

"Unfortunately, 17 states now have these so-called safe storage laws," replies
Yale Law School Senior Research Scholar Dr. John Lott -- author of the book
"More Guns, Less Crime." "The problem is, you see no decrease in either
juvenile accidental gun deaths or suicides when such laws are enacted, but you
do see an increase in crime rates."

Such laws are based on the notion that young children often "find daddy's gun"
and accidentally shoot each other. But in fact only five American children
under the age of 10 died of accidents involving handguns in 1997, Lott reports.
"People get the impression that kids under 10 are killing each other. In fact
this is very rare: three to four per year."

The typical shooter in an accidental child gun death is a male in his late
teens or 20s, who, statistically, is probably a drug addict or an alcoholic and
has already been charged with multiple crimes, Lott reports. "These are the
data that correlate. Are these the kind of people who are going to obey one
more law?"

So why doesn't the national press report what happens when a victim disarmament
("gun control") law costs the lives of innocent children in a place like
Merced?

"In the school shooting in Pearl, Miss.," Dr. Lott replies, "the assistant
principal had formerly carried a gun to school. When the 1995 ("Gun-Free School
Zones") law passed, he took to locking his gun in his car and parking it at
least a quarter-mile away from the school, in order to obey the law. When that
shooting incident started he ran to his car, unlocked it, got his gun, ran
back, disarmed the shooter and held him on the ground for five minutes until
the police arrived.

"There were more than 700 newspaper stories catalogued on that incident. Only
19 mentioned the assistant principal in any way, and only nine mentioned that
he had a gun."

The press covers only the bad side of gun use, and only the potential benefits
of victim disarmament laws -- never their costs. "Basically all the current
federal proposals fall into this category -- trigger locks, waiting periods,"
Lott said. "There's not one academic study that shows any reduction in crime
from measures like these. But there are good studies that show the opposite.
Even with short waiting periods, crime goes up. You have women being stalked,
and they can't go quickly and get a gun due to the waiting periods, so they get
assaulted or they get killed."

The United States has among the world's lowest "hot" burglary rates --
burglaries committed while people are in the building -- at 13 percent,
compared to "gun-free" Britain's rate, 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: AMERICA - ARE YOU SLEEPING? PART V

2000-10-03 Thread nessie

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Gore is anti-gun. Bush is anti-choice.

So who are the pro-choice gun owners supposed to vote for?

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[CTRL] The genius hears the whispers

2000-10-03 Thread Kelly

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AN ORDINARY BOY WITH EXTRAORDINARY GIFTS
By Kirsten Scharnberg
Tribune Staff Writer
October 1, 2000

http://chicagotribune.com/news/printedition/article/0,2669,SAV-0010010268,FF.html

The genius hears the whispers.

"That's him," they say, and the genius pretends not to hear.

"He's some kind of prodigy," they say, and the genius does not return
their stares.

"It's the 9-year-old freshman," they say, and the genius starts walking
faster.

The genius sits alone in the front row of English 106.

Psst ...

He adjusts his green-tinted goggles in the corner of a crowded,
third-floor chemistry lab.

Psst ...

He becomes visibly annoyed when the school librarian asks for proof he
is a real student.

Psst ...

"Who cares if they whisper?" the genius asks, and the determined set of
his jaw indicates he means every word of it.

The genius knows the whisperers do not wish to offend. He knows they do
not mean to make him feel like more of an outsider than he already is.
He knows how hard it would be to resist talking about the few dramatic
details known about this 4-foot-3-inch person who sticks out on Loyola
University's lush green campus like a horse jockey in a crowd of
offensive linemen: The genius is 9.

He is so brilliant, tests cannot measure his IQ.

And he is a full-time, pre-med college freshman who got a 106 percent on
his most recent chemistry exam and who Loyola officials think is the
youngest college student in the country.

The whisperers know these limited details about the genius, and they
discuss them endlessly. But virtually no one--save for the gentle priest
who has become his friend and the few matronly college administrators
who look after him--knows the genius' real name or his extraordinary
story, the one that began five years ago when his mother embarked on the
usually very ordinary journey of enrolling her firstborn in
kindergarten.

They do not know the genius plays Beethoven like a professional pianist
and grows chamomile in his garden and considers Martin Luther King Jr.
the most respectable person ever.

They do not know the genius' wee, picture-perfect, 4-year-old sister is
suspected to be equally brilliant, if not more so.

And they do not know that behind it all, behind the genius' straight A's
and poker-faced classroom demeanor and infuriatingly correct answers to
all his professors' impossible questions, is a kind-hearted boy who has
read the entire Bible three times and who stops to play with ladybugs
between class and who saves every cent of his birthday money to buy his
mother expensive jewelry from Bloomingdale's.

So the people whisper, and with a shrug of his bony, slender shoulders,
Sho Yano says he doesn't care.

He just wishes they would stop calling him "the genius."

Piano prodigy

The first sign there was something special about Sho Yano came when he
was 3.

His mother, Kyung Yano, a Korean immigrant with a master's degree in art
history, remembers the day she was practicing the piano, trying to
complete one of Chopin's most complicated compositions.

Again and again, the young mother replayed the same bar, growing more
frustrated each time she blundered the beautiful notes. She finally gave
up and walked to the kitchen, leaving little Sho playing with his toys
at the foot of the piano.

Suddenly, standing at the sink, Kyung Yano heard the flawless music
drifting from the living room.

"People don't believe this story," the pretty, outgoing woman says, "and
I didn't at first either, but that's the moment I knew Sho was special.
But I figured he was only gifted in music."

But it turned out Sho was too smart for kindergarten. Too smart for a
gifted school. Too smart for the high school lessons in calculus and
microbiology that his mother prepared for him from a home-schooling
package.

The boy read Shakespeare and Salinger and C.S. Lewis.

He begged for more math homework.

He would get so absorbed in science books that someone would have to
pull the book away to get his attention.

"I would have to study late at night to teach him in the morning," Kyung
Yano said, "and sometimes when I didn't know how to teach him something,
he'd just take the pencil and say, `Let me show you, mom.'"

Sho giggles at the story and puts his arm around his mother's shoulders.
His little sister, Sayuri, who already is showing many of the same
talents, giggles too.

"We are just ordinary people," Sho's business executive father, Katsura
Yano, says modestly, stealing a quick glance at his spectacled, smiling
son. "This has been a real journey for us."

So at the age of 9, Sho told his parents what he craved:

College. A four-year university. Classes that would challenge him for
the first time in his life.

The Yanos considered Northwestern University, but admissions officers
there expressed concern about his age. The University of Chicago had the
same reservations, and Sho was bitterly disappointed.

His mother remembers him whining: "But, mom, they have produced so many

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: AMERICA - ARE YOU SLEEPING? PART V

2000-10-03 Thread Bob Stokes

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In a message dated 10/3/00 12:36:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Gore is anti-gun. Bush is anti-choice.

 So who are the pro-choice gun owners supposed to vote for? 

Not sure, vote for Bush and keep your gun, wear a rubber and you don't need
Gore.  Or ... vote Libertarian and get rid of all laws ... maybe.

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Re: [CTRL] The Conspiracy Bugabo

2000-10-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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  A crock is a crock no matter their heritage.  Unfortunatly many
 'shysters' have been of the jewish persasuan.  It is their business
 practices that have brought hatred down upon their heads.  Now days, of
 course, Shysters come from all backgrounds and the disease of 'greed' is
 indeed a conspiracy or certainly behaves as one 

How true.  I am just now (finally) reading, "The Creature from Jekyll
Island."  Yes, there were Jews involved, but it was not their religion that
mattered.  There were non-Jews as well.  These men were not interested in
worshipping God together, unless their real God was money.  They all had
power, wealth and were in good positions to help each other accumulate more
power and wealth.  I haven't finished the book, but I think the Fed owns us.
Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] How it's done: Elites protect each other.

2000-10-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 The Elites have decided that no *effective* law applies to a head of state.
 Since any country's legal system is often and integral part of elite
political
 control, they always get off.

 At the highest levels power and wealth are interchangeable. If you attain
one,
 you use it to get the other. All elites understand and admire this. Elites
would
 not punish other elites for doing their job properly. Their job is to keep
 wealth and power in the hands of the elites. The system employed is
irellevant. 

The absolute truth.  I'm surprised we don't offer Idi Amin citizenship.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Navy, Air Force spare-parts crisis

2000-10-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 An internal Pentagon report says that Clinton-era changes to the Department
 of Defense accounting and inventory procedures have "virtually eliminated war
 reserve levels of spare parts for both the Navy and the Air Force," reversing
 a decade-long effort of steady investment in vital military components.

 The report, dated May 11, says "despite ... current initiatives" that were
 only implemented last budget year to remedy the Pentagon's spare parts
 problems, "the [Defense Department] is likely to face parts challenges for
 the foreseeable future."

 Released from the office of the director for Readiness Programming and
 Assessment, the eight-page report said "spare parts shortages have been a
 major factor in lower reported equipment levels, particularly in ... aviation
 communities, for the last five to seven years." 

Don't you just love the cute slant--"Clinton-era changes" indeed.  What
they're really saying is that at some point in the last eight years, the
GENERALS (God help us with such idiotic leaders in our miliary) screwed up.
I hate to bring it up, but the President hardly ever writes procedures for
the Pentagon.   If there's a problem here, it's based somewhere in that
mystical time when it was discovered that the military was paying hundreds of
times the price that civilians were paying for the same products.  Could
kickback have been involved?  Oh of course not.  Would our fearless leaders
have channeled orders to their friends?  Of course not.  It's been a while,
and so of course the American public (taxpaying sods that we are) has
forgotten all about being overcharged for spare parts.  So now there is this
CRISIS.  Oh my goodness.  Let's blame it on Clinton.  Let's not own up that
we can't really program properly.   What is it we call the excrement of the
male bovine?  Oh yes, I remember.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: People In Bolivia Rise Up Again!!

2000-10-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn





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Confrontation in Parotani Leaves Dead and Wounded, Tom Kruse ~ 24 September
2000

At least two people were killed and over 10 wounded today in confrontation
between Bolivian military and protesters near the community of Parotani,
about 350 km from La Paz, Bolivia's capital, when government troops, under
civilian cover, fired tear gas and live ammunition on protesters.

For more than a week Bolivia has been convulsed by waves of protests by
peasants, coca growers, public school teachers and others.  One key form of
protest has been the blocking of major highways, effectively cutting off
regions one from the other, and Bolivia from neighboring countries.

In April of this year Cochabamba, Bolivia was the site of fierce protests
that succeeded in reverting privatization of the local water system by a
Bechtel Corporation affiliate, and forced substantive changes to water
legislation that local communities felt would cause them to lose control of
their indigenous water systems.  In the current protests, local groups are
demanding approval of those legislative changes and final termination of the
contract with the Bechtel affiliate.  Those protests were joined by rural
and urban public school demanding wage increases, and coca growers demanding
an end to US financed coca leaf eradication and military base construction
in Cochabamba's Chapare region.

At 1:30am this morning, the Bolivian Permanent Human Rights Assembly
mediated negotiations between Prefect José Orías of Cochabamba and protest
leaders, to allow a small number of trucks carrying chickens and buses
carrying travelers, stranded for various day in Cochabamba.  Protest leaders
indicated they would make efforts to ensure safe passage of the caravan, but
indicated that blockade leaders would be hard to reach until morning.

At about 2:00am the caravan left, and, unbeknownst to the protest leaders,
accompanied by about 100 heavily armed regular army troops.  Protest leaders
indicate that at no time during the negotiations did the Governor indicate
the caravan would be militarized, and hand they known, they never would have
approved it's departure.

At 4:00am the first reports of confrontations between the military
accompanying the convoy and protesters were reported.  At just after 4:00pm
the first confirmed reports of dead and wounded came in.
Sacha Llorentti, representative of the Bolivian Permanent Human Rights
Assembly, and member of the National council of Human Rights in Bolivia, and
who mediated the negotiations that led to the caravan's departure, feels the
Prefect Orías lied to him.  Llorentti commented, "We feel betrayed.  At no
time did the Prefect suggest that he would send dozens of well armed
soldiers with the civilian convoy.  Had we known, the [Human Rights]
Assembly would never have played a role in negotiating the convoy's
departure.  We feel the Prefect deliberately used the Assembly and innocent
travelers and truckers as cover for military operations."

Protest leaders have called for a mass public assembly to consult with local
organizations regarding the next steps to be taken.  What is certain is that
with the recent government violence, protests are destined to continue.
END

Weekly News Update On The Americas, Nicaragua Solidarity Network, 339
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National Uprising Rocks Bolivia

Campesino coca growers (cocaleros), public school teachers and other labor
sectors joined in Bolivia during the week of Sept. 18 to press demands with
a coordinated series of strikes, protests and roadblocks that had the
country virtually shut down by Sept. 23. Cocaleros and other campesinos are
demanding land rights, as well as protesting the forced eradication of coca
crops and the planned construction of three new US-financed "anti-drug"
military bases in the Chapare region. Bolivia's rural public school teachers
have been on an open-ended strike since Sept. 13, pushing for a 50% wage
increase among other demands; the strike was joined on Sept. 18 by the urban
public school teachers.

The Coordinating Committee for Water and Life, which organized a protest
movement in the city of Cochabamba last spring against the privatization of
the municipal drinking water system [see Updates #523, 532, 533], is also
backing the new protests. On Sept. 20, some 20,000 people demonstrated in

Re: [CTRL] CommentMax: Tyranny Is Here

2000-10-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 Ya! Thank God animals have the right to be cooked properly with garlic and
 butter!

 MS 

You're right about that, but until you get around to that point, they should
be treated decently.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Deja Vu all over again. Columbia

2000-10-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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U.S. Troops in Colombia Threatened
By Andrew Selsky
Associated Press Writer
Sunday, Oct. 1, 2000; 4:13 p.m. EDT

LARANDIA ARMY BASE, Colombia -- U.S. special forces stationed in this
sprawling army base near large concentrations of leftist guerrillas on
Sunday faced renewed threats from the insurgents.

But a general in Colombia said he has sufficient forces to repel any threat
to the U.S. forces who are training troops in a U.S.-aided drug war.

Concerns about the safety of the approximately 85 elite American soldiers at
Larandia were highlighted after Andres Paris, a commander of the
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, was quoted as saying that
"all Colombian or foreign military personnel who are in the combat zones
will be military targets."

A general commanding a brigade of 4,800 Colombian troops in this mountainous
region of jungle and pasture land where troops and rebels frequently clash
said his force was sufficient to protect the Americans from the FARC. The
rebels have infiltrated combatants toward the exterior of the base to look
for weak points, said Col. Julian Villate, the base commander.

An Associated Press team, the first journalists to visit Larandia since the
American soldiers arrived two months ago, saw the special forces compound on
the base but was denied permission by the U.S. Embassy to interview or
photograph the troops.

The U.S. Army Green Berets and members of the 720th Special Tactics Group
from Pope Air Force Base, N.C., are training two counter-narcotics army
battalions under a $1.3 billion U.S. aid package to this South American
nation.

Paris' comments, posted Thursday in New Colombia News Agency, a web site run
by FARC supporters and considered a reliable source, echoed previous
statements by FARC commanders. They did not come as a surprise, said Raul
Duany, spokesman for the Southern Command, which is in charge of U.S.
military operations in Latin America.

"It's nothing we didn't expect or didn't know. It's a very difficult
situation down there," Duany said over the phone Sunday from the Southern
Command's headquarters in Miami.

Duany said under the U.S. troops' rules of engagement, they are authorized
to fire back if attacked or caught in a cross fire.

He refused to give specifics on how the military is reacting to Paris'
statement, but said U.S. forces' security is being constantly evaluated and
that "drastic protection methods" would be taken if necessary.

Gen. Javier Arias, commander of the Colombian army's 12th Brigade that
includes Larandia, insisted that the FARC's 3,000 combatants in the region
pose no direct threat to the base.

"We're not worried about security in Larandia," Arias said in an interview
Friday. "We have troops constantly on the move between the base and where
the rebels are."

Larandia is a two-hour drive west of a Switzerland-sized zone ceded by the
government to the rebels last year in an attempt to push moribund peace
talks forward. The rebels also have units to the north, west and south of
the base - the closest 9 miles away, according to Arias.

The U.S. troops toted loaded weapons whenever they left their compound:
either an assault rifle or even a pistol tucked into their shorts. They did
not leave the base itself.

The special forces, many of them Hispanics, train the Colombian soldiers in
advanced combat techniques. Except for their insignia, many of the Americans
are barely distinguishable from their Colombian counterparts.

When they returned to their compound - a cement building and a cluster of
large tents dotted with satellite dishes - through an opening in a roll of
concertina wire, the U.S. troops ejected the loaded clips from their rifles.

Under President Clinton's aid initiative, the Americans can only train the
Colombians and are barred from accompanying Colombian troops into combat.

There have been no reports of fighting in the immediate vicinity since the
Americans arrived at the base, located below mist-shrouded mountains a
40-minute drive from the provincial capital of Florencia.

But in July last year, there was a two-day battle between FARC rebels and
Colombian soldiers just 3 miles away in which 20 rebels were reportedly
killed and one government soldier wounded, Villate said.

There have been other firefights since then, 12 or more miles away, the base
commander said.

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Re: [CTRL] Significant discovery in Bible code

2000-10-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/news_week.ssf?/news/oregonian/00/10/nw_11bible01.frame

 An Ashland Hebrew scholar, using an Israeli computer system, finds a 22
 letter message in Isaiah

 Sunday, October 1, 2000  From The Associated Press

 ASHLAND -- A Hebrew scholar and a mathematician have found what they
 call one of the most significant discoveries in the field of Bible code
 research.

 Nathan Jacobi, an Ashland scientist and Hebrew teacher, found a
 seven-word sentence encoded in the Old Testament book of Isaiah.
 "Everybody I've shown it to thinks it's phenomenal," said Jacobi.
 The longest code to date had been 13 letters long, but the new code is
 22 letters long.

 The chances of finding a sentence-length code in a Hebrew text is one
 out of 685 billion times 1 billion, said Ed Sherman, an actuary. He owns
 an Ashland firm that runs insurance statistics for several Fortune 500
 companies.

 Jacobi and Sherman's newest code is Shakak Meal Yeshua Shmi Az Sasu
 Avim, which is translated into "Gushing over Yeshua was my mighty name
 and the clouds rejoiced."

 Yeshua is the commonly agreed-upon Hebrew name for Jesus, Jacobi said.
 The code was found in Isaiah 53, a text that prophecies the coming of
 Jesus Christ as messiah. Scholars attribute the text to a prophet who
 lived six centuries before Christ was born.

 Jacobi describes his own spiritual beliefs as neither Jewish nor
 Christian. Bible codes are found by searching the Hebrew text for
 letters at certain intervals to form words. Sherman and Jacobi use an
 Israeli computer program that eliminates spaces between words, then
 chooses every third letter, for example, to find hidden messages.


I have a mystical parrot who scratched in the bottom of his cage, IN
ANCIENT ARAMAIC, " people who believe debunked bible codes are goofy."
It's a fucking miracle.

Joshua2

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Dump Gore: Just look at his record]

2000-10-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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 Original Message 
Subject: Dump Gore: Just look at his record
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 22:37:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Michael Eisenscher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello friends and family, colleagues and comrades,

I have just a few thoughts to share with you this week about Nader,
followed by a one-page article about Gore's record as environmentalist.

At present, Nader is still to be excluded from the Presidential Debates.
The two-headed, one-party, business government yet reigns. Popular culture
in the U.S., and the media, believe -- or anyway regularly declare -- that
Americans are satisfied with bipartisan political culture: the left is dead
because no one cares about it. No one is interested in the wacky ideas of a
few anti-American, anti-religious, anti-family extremists. Americans are
all too busy, and too happy, pursuing the consumption of commodities, and
occasionally leisure time, to devote any energy to all those nagging little
problems that leftists keep harping on: mass poverty, corporate control of
politics and culture, pollution and war. Not to worry: the experts are on
the job, corporations are reforming themselves to eliminate pollution and
reduce the exploitation of child and other foreign laborers, the economy is
booming. We've never been wealthier or better off!

The proof of all this, of course, is precisely that people keep voting for
Democrats and Republicans. (Well, the few who vote, anyway.) After all, we
live in a democracy. If people were dissatisfied with the status quo, we'd
vote the bums out. Hence, the importance of voting for Ralph. If all of us
who are tempted by Nader, who dislike Gore but fear Bush, were to vote for
Nader, if he receives enough support to make it into the debates -- or even
to win matching funds from the government -- then it becomes just a bit
more difficult to pretend that everything is all right, to ignore the
voices of criticism and the proposals of alternatives. If on the other
hand, we succumb to the veil of two lessers, then we are effectively
disappeared, the critique of really existing capitalism is erased, and we
head just a bit closer to the 21st century version of 1984, dominated by
corporate Big Brother.

We might take a lesson from Odysseus: he escaped the Sirens only because he
was prevented from responding to them, while his crew were protected from
hearing their songs. As environmental hero David Brower says, "It's time to
start standing up for what we stand on."

Best wishes to all,

Blair

The article below was written after Gore won the primary, but the main
points are definitely still relevant for those tempted by Nader but afraid
of Bush. A bit more detail is provided here about the many ways Gore has
betrayed his environmental and populist rhetoric.



April 17, 2000, In These Times

How To Deal with Gore: Dump him -- just look at his record

By Jeffrey St. Clair

So, Al Gore's the man. This is hardly breaking news.

The competition from Bill Bradley, who ran the most somnambulant campaign
since John Glenn's sleepwalk in 1988, wasn't exactly bracing. Even so, Gore
didn't escape unscathed. The plodding Bradley drew blood from an unexpected
flank: Gore's reputation as an honest broker. Bradley exposed Gore as a
political transvestite, a lifelong conservative Democrat, who only adopts
the mantle of liberalism when it's convenient (such as in Democratic
primaries). He reeled off a litany of Gore flip-flops on abortion, gun
control, tobacco, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, affirmative action,
welfare reform and civil rights. This was, Bradley tried to remind people,
the man who in his sleazy 1988 campaign race-baited Jesse Jackson and first
raised the specter of Willie Horton against Michael Dukakis.

Many observers were caught off-guard when Bradley also ridiculed Gore's
reputation as an environmentalist. The corporate press, lethargic as ever,
snickered. "Attacking Gore on the environment is like questioning Mother
Teresa's faith," said Jonathan Alter, Newsweek's chief talking head. But
just as Christopher Hitchens showed that the Virgin of Calcutta was no
saint, so too did Bradley have the goods on Gore -- if any one would have
bothered to look.

In the 1992 campaign, Gore used the environment as a sledgehammer against
Bush and Quayle. One issue raised over and over was a hazardous waste
incinerator slated for East Liverpool, Ohio, which Gore vowed to block. But
within months of taking office, the EPA, run by former Gore stiffer Carol
Browner, reversed course and issued a permit for the deadly plant. This
stunning betrayal was a sign of things to come. It was swiftly followed by
capitulations on the Everglades, ancient forests, fuel efficiency
standards, pesticides in foods, wetland protection, oil development in
AIaska and the Gulf of Mexico, subsidies for nuclear power, organic food
standards and ozone-depleting 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Israeli Snipers Target Civilians and Medical Workers

2000-10-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 10/01/2000 8:50:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 My gut feel is that it wouldn't take more than 2-3 Palestinian
 deaths by Israeli IDF fire into civilian groups for there to be
 some EXTREME terrorist PLO retaliation, e.g., chemical and
 bioweapons, etc. 

Are you trying to be funny?  Whatever Israeli do to Palestinians is
Israeli/Palestinian business, but that just one or two are killed now and
then is ludicrous.  Even Israel's friends do not try to deny the killings;
they just don't usually report them.  I've no idea why this latest was
exposed.  Perhaps it was that stuff from the French.  They tend to be rather
fearless about this sort of thing, and it's hard for the US and England to
deny photos.  But don't get your panties in a twist.  Nobody really cares, do
they?  The Israeli will continue to dispose of the Palestinians as fast as
they dare.  Wouldn't do to get the whole world in an uproar.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: FDA conflicts of interest (USA Today)]

2000-10-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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 FDA advisers tied to industry

 MJ
   Ever hear of the Public Choice Model?
   This unconstitutional, oppressive illusion should
   be abolished.

 tenebroust
   I don't think we can go to a system where there is
   NO regulation, because it is just asking for trouble
   from those who would be unscrupulous regardless.
 MJ
 We have people who are 'unscrupulous regardless' NOW
 coupled to this farce which serves to prohibit an individual
 from choosing for himself ...

 tenebroust
  In matters of health I think it is advisable to have truly
  independant experts evaluate the effectiveness and
  safety of all products, but that the people should
  STILL have the last word as to whether they want
  to try it or not.  In other words I think that if you want
  to take a drug that the FDA says is ineffective or possibly
  dangerous then I don't think they have the right to keep it
  from you or you from taking it.
 MJ
 This PRIVATE oversight will necessarily occur ... consider
 UL or Consumer Reports.

 tenebroust
   At the same time there does need to be some measure
   of control over claims, manufacturing protocals,
   standardization, truth in labelling, etc.
 MJ
 Such would fall under 'fraud'.

 Regard$,
 --MJ

 Property is prior to law; the sole function of the law
 is to safeguard the right to property wherever it exists,
 wherever it is formed, in whatever manner the worker
 produces it, whether individually or in association,
 provided that he respects the rights of others.
 -- Frederic Bastiat

Property is NOT prior to law. Only wishful thinking of greedy
oinkers would like to make it so. Property will be revised
DOWN in importance as time goes on because the world sees quite
clearly what happens when property is worshipped above life.

Enjoy it while it lasts Johnson. You don't have much time left,
the way the economy is going.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Private Warriors

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan





The Boston Phoenix 
September 7 - 14, 2000

 Warriors, guns, and money

When the Berlin Wall came down, Cold Warriors didn't simply become desk
jockeys. Ken Silverstein's new book investigates where they are now -- and
what they're doing.

by Jason Vest
KEN SILVERSTEIN  tracks the movements of Cold War arms dealers, policy
wonks, and spies.

---
An anti-communist ex-secretary of state who works for his old enemies if the
price is right. A liberal senator's warplane-selling wife who gets off
firing missiles from the cockpit of an F-16 simulator. The pilot-for-hire
who loved the secret world so much that he covered up his Jewish identity to
run guns for the Arabs. And the extremely low-profile, amazingly wealthy,
utterly charming right-wing German who took part in nearly every major
covert operation during the Cold War, and who, in retirement, gives quietly
but generously to charity.
The stuff of fiction? Not at all. These are just some of the real-life
characters who appear in the pages of Washington-based investigative
reporter Ken Silverstein's new book, Private Warriors (Verso, $25, 268
pages). From overseas arms fairs to remote airstrips to the corridors of the
Pentagon, Silverstein's narrative is a bizarrely compelling journey to
discover where our Cold Warriors have gone.
Some, we learn, are now in the "respectable" end of the arms business.
Others ply their trade as spooky "contractors" in the brave new capitalist
world, where mercenaries are now mainstream. Most of the policy wonks,
meanwhile, can be found racing through the revolving door between the
Pentagon and the defense-contractor industry. Some, like Andy Marshall and
Frank Gaffney (along with a slew of others who currently advise George W.
Bush), continue to beat the drum for "Star Wars" missile defense,
appropriations cycle after appropriations cycle.
A contributing editor to Harper's and one of the few bona fide investigative
reporters left in Washington, Silverstein spent more than two years filing
Freedom of Information Act requests, combing through archives, and knocking
on doors from Brazil to Belgium to gather research for Private Warriors. He
was getting ready to head out on assignment when we caught up with him in
Washington. 
Q: You're a familiar byline to regular readers of the Nation, Mother Jones,
and Harper's, especially for your work on power in Washington --
particularly lobbying. Why a book on the military-industrial-intelligence
complex?
A: In 1997 I was working on a piece about the privatization of foreign
military training, in which companies like Military Professional Resources
Incorporated [MPRI] -- which is a corporate entity headed by a number of top
high-ranking former generals -- train foreign armies in Bosnia, Croatia,
Africa, and now, apparently, South America. I was examining that phenomenon,
and during one of my interviews with Dan Nielsen, a former congressional
staffer and professor at the National Defense University -- a guy I'd
describe as a liberal defense intellectual -- he said, "You're on to
something far bigger."
With the end of the Cold War, he told me, tens of thousands who ran the Cold
War as military officers, spooks, gun runners, Pentagon bureaucrats --
they've all been cast adrift. But they have military and paramilitary skills
they developed over the course of the Cold War, and now they're trying to
carve out a niche in the private sector. And in the course of their
activities, he said, not only do they seek continuation of a hard-line
defense posture, but they influence the debate and create a continued
momentum for ridiculous levels of defense spending -- $300 billion a year,
despite the fact that only North Korea and Cuba are primary enemies.
Fortunately for me, Dan was too busy to write the book, and he gave me
permission to steal his idea.
Q: Of all the characters you came across, does any one stand out?
A: One of the German arms dealers who worked extensively for the US
government during an [important] part of the Cold War. The story of Ernst
Werner Glatt, a right-wing German who worked for the Pentagon and CIA for 40
years, and who was a key participant in the most amazing covert operations
of our time, including an operation in 1977 to arm the Somali government,
had never been reported on.
I've been working as a journalist for 15 years, and I felt like [Glatt's
story] was the most important I had ever undertaken. Glatt was completely
unknown prior to this -- his name appears in the press twice, and both times
only in passing. I mean, here's a guy who was probably one of the most
significant arms dealers of the 20th century -- a guy who moved guns against
the Soviets at the same time as [he was] stealing weapons from them, so the
Pentagon could test them against their own -- and he was still cloaked in
the shadows. 
Q: But Glatt's more or less retired, while people like Al Haig, who was
secretary of state in the Reagan administration, and Frank Gaffney, who was
Reagan's 

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: FDA conflicts of interest (USA Today)]

2000-10-03 Thread M. A. Johnson

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Bastiat
 Property is prior to law; the sole function of the law
 is to safeguard the right to property wherever it exists,
 wherever it is formed, in whatever manner the worker
 produces it, whether individually or in association,
 provided that he respects the rights of others.

Joshua
 Property is NOT prior to law. Only wishful thinking of
 greedy oinkers would like to make it so. Property will
 be revised DOWN in importance as time goes on
 because the world sees quite clearly what happens
 when property is worshipped above life.
MJ
One has PROPERTY in their LIFE ...

... But then you prefer SLAVERY ... being the epitomy of 'greedy'.

Regard$,
--MJ

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] federal mental health courts?

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan





A. Tyner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Friday, September 29, 2000
Domenici-Kennedy Bill

You may or may not be aware of the Domenici-Kennedy Bill now
before Congress.  It is the most dangerous piece of legislation
involving civil rights curtailment in many years.

It calls for the establishment of FEDERAL mental health courts.  Any
individual can be placed before one on the say-so of a doctor, etc.  Like the
ones at the state level they will be rubber stamps.  There is no such
thing as a false positive with mental illness.

Domenici's wife (spelling?) was on the board of NAMI, a front company
for the drug companies.

This bill also calls for the establishment of mental health centers in
OUR schools (no choice here).

Buried within the bill will be a centralized database of anyone
(potentially) who ever sought any sort of mental health treatment.  The
repercussions include infringements on the right to keep and bear arms.

We have seen this already.  Gulf War vets with GWI were all given psych
diagnoses.  As a consequence the health records of close to 90,000 vets
were turned over for inclusion in the FBI database.  None of these vets,
nor anyone living in their homes, has the right to posess a firearm.
(By the way I bet the FBI is already going through the MBI database,
MediCaid, etc.)

There is NO need for legislation like this.  Not only will it affect the
targeted individual it will affect that individual's family.

This has already happened in Canada.  Some individuals have ended up in
the database by accident or fraud.  The government refuses to make
corrections.

Of course these individuals will probably be forced
into a lifetime of drug treatment.

We saw a similar legislation in the 1950's at the height of the cold
war.

It was defeated then, but we have had ten years of the media
aggressively falsely associating mental illness with violence.







[CTRL] OEN 10/3/00

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Grabbe/A
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G-man


Take a Leak


More money for the Great Satan.

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Senate voted Monday to crack down on leaks and security
breaches by government agencies and boost allocations for the National
Security Agency.

A bill authorizing money for U.S. intelligence programs for the 2001 budget
year, which began Sunday, would make it a felony for government officials to
release any classified information, not just that involving nuclear weapons
or defense secrets.

The bill, approved on a voice vote, also will require the State Department to
certify that its employees comply with regulations covering the handling of
classified information.

The department has been embarrassed by a series of lapses, including the
theft from within the building of a laptop computer holding top-secret files.
Despite a reward offer, the computer has not been found.

``We must make it clear to individuals who handle classified material that we
are serious about enforcing security rules,'' said Sen. Richard Bryan, a
Nevada Democrat who is vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The amount of money in the bill was not disclosed, but committee aides said
the legislation includes a boost in funding to modernize the problem-plagued
National Security Agency.
Earlier this year, the NSA's communication network went deaf for three days.
The agency, based in Fort Meade, Md., has been fending off published
allegations that it was engaged in illegal snooping into e-mail messages of
Americans and others.

The legislation also sets up a board to advise the president on decisions to
declassify intelligence material.

The House already passed its version of the legislation. A House-Senate
conference committee will work out differences between the two bills.
Associated Press, October 3, 2000
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[CTRL] STATE SURVEILLANCE IN THE INTERNET

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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-Big Brother Capabilities in an Online World
-STATE SURVEILLANCE IN THE INTERNET-
This thesis was written during 1999-2000 by Francisco Javier Bernal, Graduate
in Audiovisual Communications, University of Seville - Spain, and final year
student of BA (Hons) European Media Production at University of Lincolnshire
and Humberside - United Kingdom. The copyright of the text and photographs is
reserved.
The following individuals provided invaluable information and advise: Yaman
Akdeniz, Cyber-Rights Cyber-Liberties, United Kingdom; Duncan Campbell, IPTV
Ltd., United Kingdom; Sheila Conroy, Anti, Greece; Bo Elkjaer, Ekstra Bladet,
Denmark; Prof. Ros Garland, University of Lincolnshire and Humberside, United
Kingdom; Donna M. Goddkey, PCL Defence Construction Canada; Bill Robinson,
Project Ploughshares, University of Waterloo, Canada; Patrick S. Poole,
Center for Technology Policy, USA; John Young, Cryptome-JYA, USA;
 The Author gratefully acknowledges the support of Menwith Hill Women's Peace
Camp, Campaign for the Accountability of American Bases (CAAB) and Yorkshire
CND.
IntroductionA Changing WorldSurveillance Theory Surveillance Schemes
Conclusion  Bibliography
A WORK BY FRANCISCO JAVIER BERNAL
Reproduction only under written permission. Copyright reserved
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[CTRL] Occult within covert groups?

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: Occult within covert groups?
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Hi -

I'm curious what people think about occult belief systems operating
within the intelligence community? The famous Aquino/satanism case has
always interested me, that something so strange and twisted really
happened. Also, I've often wondered if any of the occult Nazi beliefs
operating during World War II perhaps bled over to America during
Paperclip? (After all, didn't Aquino perform some weird satanic rite
while visiting Germany?)

Aside from the Aquino saga, I've only heard rumors and conspiracy
theories involving Montauk, mind-control, and maybe Jack Parsons group
at JPL during the 1960s. Is there any hard evidence that this is
widespread, or is it the exception to the rule?

thanks
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For what it's worth.
The OTO was for all intents and purposes defunct until a high level military
intelligence agent reinvented it. He later gained it recognition from the
supreme court in a case involving copyrights over Crowley's works. There is
some talk that his Masonic connections made the difference, but who knows?
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[CTRL] The Republic that likes to call itself Democracy

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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Subject: The Republic that likes to call itself Democracy
From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A
Date: Wed, Sep 20, 2000 4:04 PM
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   The USA favorite self description for propaganda purposes is
Democracy. Conservatives are constantly reminding liberals that the USA
is a constitutional republic, not even a democratic republic preferred
by conventional labellers. But even the most conservative of spokesmen
for the USA bellow out democracy, government of the people and freedom
when bragging overseas and giving the American governed the illusion of
participation in their government. Of course even Russia called itself
democratic and nowadays in the USA the two parties only system offers
about as much choice as the one party system. And even among the
"democratic" countries the USA is probably the most limited because of
the two party system, not offering the choices of the more varied
parlimentary system, the limited range of opinion allowed in their
media, an establishment corporate media self described for deceptive
propaganda purposes as the "free press, the national security
establishment which is trying to run the world in the name of the people
of the USA and therefore must squash dissent at home with police
power,with more laws and aggressive policing, making security the growth
industry of the last 25 years.

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Subject: Re: The Republic that likes to call itself Democracy
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Two points:

(1) According to the World Factbook (1994), published by the federal
government from CIA data, the description of the US government is "federal
republic, strong democratic tradition" - a tacit admission that we DO NOT
live in a democracy. Period. Whether or not any later editions list the same
description is not known to me but this in itself is proof enough.

(2) The fondling - oops, founding fathers, in general consensus, were
definitely opposed to any party system being allowed to operate in the
course of US politics. However, with all of the wrangling over federalism,
lines were drawn and soon followed political parties. I guess that means
such things are not necessary evils (as government has been described) so
much as they are habits perhaps worthy of ending.

Yes, I'm not voting for either side of the mutant. (Refer to the "Testify"
video by Rage Against The Machine.)

daft_one

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A republic is a representative democracy.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:8qfp59$slm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 A republic is a representative democracy.

Hmm...let's see what the dictionary has to say. Also, note: if you ask any
civics teacher, they usually squirm a bit before admitting there is a
difference between a democratic republic and a republic. (You can look it up
yourself here: A HREF="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm"
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm/A

Main Entry: re·pub·lic
Pronunciation: ri-'p-blik
Function: noun
Etymology: French république, from Middle French republique, from Latin
respublica, from res thing, wealth + publica, feminine of publicus public --
more at REAL, PUBLIC
Date: 1604
1 a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who
in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (as a nation)
having such a form of government
b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens
entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives
responsible to them and governing according to law
(2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government
c : a usually specified republican government of a political unit the
French Fourth Republic
2 : a body of persons freely engaged in a specified activity the republic
of letters
3 : a constituent political and territorial unit of the former nations of
Czechoslovakia, the U.S.S.R., or Yugoslavia

Clearly, your suggested definition of "republic" is a misconception.
According to your logic, every country to wear "republic" on its mantle
makes it a democracy (ask anyone in the People's Republic of China if that's
the case). To wit, every government that is a representative democracy is a
republic and not vice versa.

In fact, the above definition does allow for people who use "republic" in a

[CTRL] George H.W. Bush, the CIA a Case of State Terrorism

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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Consortium/A
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September 23, 2000
George H.W. Bush, the CIA  a Case of State TerrorismBy Robert Parry
In early fall of 1976, after a Chilean government assassin had killed a
Chilean dissident and an American woman with a car bomb in Washington, D.C.,
George H.W. Bush’s CIA leaked a false report clearing Chile’s military
dictatorship and pointing the FBI in the wrong direction.

The bogus CIA assessment, spread through Newsweek magazine and other U.S.
media outlets, was planted despite CIA’s now admitted awareness at the time
that Chile was participating in Operation Condor, a cross-border campaign
targeting political dissidents, and the CIA’s own suspicions that the Chilean
junta was behind the terrorist bombing in Washington.

In a 21-page report to Congress on Sept. 18, the CIA officially acknowledged
for the first time that the mastermind of the terrorist attack, Chilean
intelligence chief Manuel Contreras, was a paid asset of the CIA.

The new report was issued almost 24 years to the day after the murders of
former Chilean diplomat Orlando Letelier and American co-worker Ronni
Moffitt, who died on Sept. 21, 1976, when a remote-controlled bomb ripped
apart Letelier's car as they drove down Massachusetts Avenue, a stately
section of Washington known as Embassy Row.

In the new report, the CIA also acknowledged publicly for the first time that
it consulted Contreras in October 1976 about the Letelier assassination. The
report added that the CIA was aware of the alleged Chilean government role in
the murders and included that suspicion in an internal cable the same month.

“CIA’s first intelligence report containing this allegation was dated 6
October 1976,” a little more than two weeks after the bombing, the CIA
disclosed.

Nevertheless, the CIA – then under CIA director George H.W. Bush – leaked for
public consumption an assessment clearing the Chilean government’s feared
intelligence service, DINA, which was then run by Contreras.

Relying on the word of Bush’s CIA, Newsweek reported that “the Chilean secret
police were not involved” in the Letelier assassination. “The [Central
Intelligence] agency reached its decision because the bomb was too crude to
be the work of experts and because the murder, coming while Chile’s rulers
were wooing U.S. support, could only damage the Santiago regime.” [Newsweek,
Oct. 11, 1976]

Bush, who later became president of the United States and is the father of
the current Republican nominee for the presidency, has never explained his
role in putting out the false cover story that diverted attention away from
the real terrorists. Nor has Bush explained what he knew about the Chilean
intelligence operation in the weeks before Letelier and Moffitt were killed.

Dodging Disclosure
As a Newsweek correspondent in 1988, a dozen years later, when the elder Bush
was running for president, I prepared a detailed story about Bush’s handling
of the Letelier case.

The draft story included the first account from U.S. intelligence sources
that Contreras was a CIA asset in the mid-1970s. I also learned that the CIA
had consulted Contreras about the Letelier assassination, information that
the CIA then would not confirm.

The sources told me that the CIA sent its Santiago station chief, Wiley
Gilstrap, to talk with Contreras after the bombing. Gilstrap then cabled back
to CIA headquarters in Langley, Va., Contreras’s assurances that the Chilean
government was not involved. Contreras told Gilstrap that the most likely
killers were communists who wanted to make a martyr out of Letelier.
My story draft also described how Bush’s CIA had been forewarned in 1976
about DINA’s secret plans to send agents, including the assassin Michael
Townley, into the United States on false passports.

Upon learning of this strange mission, the U.S. ambassador to Paraguay,
George Landau, cabled Bush about Chile’s claim that Townley and another agent
were traveling to CIA headquarters for a meeting with Bush’s deputy, Vernon
Walters. Landau also forwarded copies of the false passports to the CIA.

Walters cabled back that he was unaware of any scheduled appointment with
these Chilean agents. Landau immediately canceled the visas, but Townley
simply altered his plans and continued on his way to the United States. After
arriving, he enlisted some right-wing Cuban-Americans in the Letelier plot
and went to Washington to plant the bomb under Letelier’s car.

The CIA has never explained what action it took, if any, after receiving
Landau’s warning. A natural follow-up would have been to contact DINA and ask
what was afoot or whether a message about the trip had been misdirected. The
new CIA report made no mention of these aspects of the case.

After the assassination, Bush promised the CIA’s full cooperation in tracking
down the Letelier-Moffitt killers. But instead the CIA took 

[CTRL] Iran-Contra the Case of Wen Ho Lee

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/091800a.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.consortiumnews.com/091800a.html"The
Consortium/A
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Iran-Contra  Wen Ho LeeBy Robert Parry
Over the last few years, Republicans have trumpeted suspicions that
Democratic fund-raising abuses in 1996 somehow helped communist China steal
nuclear secrets jeopardizing U.S. national security. Leading conservatives
accused President Clinton and Vice President Gore of “appeasement” and
possibly treason.

The extreme Republican rhetoric, which rose in the months after President
Clinton survived impeachment over the Monica Lewinsky case in 1999, set the
stage for the harsh nine-month imprisonment of Los Alamos nuclear physicist
Wen Ho Lee, who was released on Sept. 13 after a plea bargain and an
extraordinary apology from a federal judge.

Yet, ignored amid the dark suspicions about the Clinton-Gore administration
and the embarrassing collapse of the Lee case was another startling set of
facts pointing in a very different direction: to illegal U.S.-Chinese
intelligence collaboration implicating the Reagan-Bush administration.

Little-noticed evidence from the Iran-contra files reveals that it was the
Reagan-Bush administration that opened the door to sharing sensitive national
security secrets with communist China in the 1980s.

This clandestine relationship evolved from China’s agreement to supply
sophisticated weapons to the Nicaraguan contras beginning in 1984, a deal
with the White House that entrusted China with one of the government’s most
sensitive intelligence secrets, the existence of Oliver North’s contra supply
network.

In the years after that secretly brokered deal, the Republican administration
permitted trips in which U.S. nuclear scientists, including physicist Wen Ho
Lee, visited China in scientific exchange programs. Those visits corresponded
with China’s rapid development of sophisticated nuclear weapons, culminating
in the apparent compromise of sensitive U.S. nuclear secrets by 1988.
Seven years later, in 1995, a purported Chinese defector walked into U.S.
government offices in Taiwan and turned over a document. Dated 1988, the
document contained detailed information about U.S.-designed nuclear warheads.

The document showed that Chinese intelligence possessed the secrets of the
W-88 miniaturized nuclear bomb by the last year of Ronald Reagan’s
presidency. China’s first test of a light warhead similar to the W-88 was
conducted in 1992, the last year of George H.W. Bush’s presidency.
In other words, the secrets of the W-88 – the central concern about Chinese
nuclear espionage – had been compromised before the Clinton-Gore
administration began. Logic would dictate then that any serious investigation
into how Chinese intelligence maneuvered into a position to glean U.S.
nuclear secrets should focus on the Reagan-Bush years when the secrets were
lost, not the Clinton-Gore years.

China’s Missile Shipment
An examination of the Reagan-Bush time frame – and particularly the
Iran-contra files – reveal how Chinese military intelligence ingratiated
itself with the U.S. government. In 1984, the Reagan-Bush administration was
desperately seeking a source of anti-aircraft missiles that could be smuggled
to the Nicaraguan contras, a CIA-backed operation that was seeking to
overthrow the leftist Sandinista government of Nicaragua.

By late 1984, the U.S. Congress had prohibited additional U.S. military
support for the contras, who had developed an unsavory reputation for
rampaging through Nicaraguan villages, raping, torturing and murdering as
they went. One contra director acknowledged the practice of staging public
executions of Nicaraguan government functionaries. [For details, see Robert
Parry’s Lost History.]

Despite this congressional contra-aid ban, the White House was determined to
secure surface-to-air missiles that the contras could use to shoot down
Soviet-made attack helicopters that had become an effective weapon in the
Nicaraguan government’s arsenal. Operatives working secretly with Oliver
North, a Marine officer assigned to the National Security Council staff,
settled on China as a source for SA-7 missiles.

In testimony at his 1989 Iran-contra trial, North called the securing of
these weapons a “very sensitive delivery.” For the Chinese missile deal,
North said he received help from the CIA in arranging false end-user
certificates from the right-wing government of Guatemala. North testified
that he “had made arrangements with the Guatemalan government, using the
people [CIA] director [William] Casey had given me.”

But China was opposed to the Guatemalan government, which was then engaged in
a scorched-earth war against leftist guerrillas. Because the Guatemalan army
had massacred tens of thousands of Indians – including the annihilation of
entire villages considered sympathetic to the guerrillas – China was not
willing to sell missiles to Guatemala.

To resolve this problem, the White House 

[CTRL] AMERICAN REVIEW: A double-take on media democ…

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.AmericanReview.net/
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.AmericanReview.net/"AMERICAN REVIEW: A
double-take on media  democ…/A
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A double-take on media  democracy



Edited by Jane Wardlow Prettyman, formerly at (the old) Esquire Magazine






INTRO:



Where's the
Real News?


American Review critiques the media, promotes media activism, and calls for
media reform. We come from a progressive point of view.
To our friends in print and broadcasting, you know who you are who do a great
job, but you know we've got a problem with commercial media's effects on
politics and society. This is a major focus of American Review.
We aim to raise awareness of the commercial newsmedia's sometimes destructive
effects on freedom and democracy in the fast-moving technological information
age. We encourage serious reflection as well as off-the-chair activism to
grapple with one of the most complex and serious problems of our time.
Good work is being done: The Christian Science Monitor" and the LA Times come
to mind. You have your own favorites. Sometimes the quality of a newspaper is
shown by how it recovers from a mistake, especially when the mistake reveals
a core problem. When the LA Times skidded down the slippery slope and crossed
the editorial/advertising line in late 1999, they faced up to their
monumental error, and David Shaw, their media reporter, produced a masterful
self-reflective section that you should read. The Times is a better paper
since then -- and we are better educated about journalistic ethics.
When outlets do a good job, they should be praised. CNN's chief foreign
correspondent Christiane Amanpour, for example, has put her life on the line
more than once to get the news out. Her reporting has made a difference
around the world and there are others like her.
Many will agree that what we need is news we can use to keep ourselves free
and safe. That's a tall order. When the Constitution was penned in the
1700's, we had only one potential tyrant -- government. Now we have two
potential tyrants -- government and corporations -- and only half the media
watchdog power we had then, to keep us free and safe. We're faced with a
multitude of complex issues threatening our freedom and safety: nuclear
pollution by DOE weapons plants and privately held nuclear power systems --
railroaded trade treaties -- medication foul-ups by the FDA and a blind eye
on biogenetic engineering -- the threat of TSE ("mad cow" disease) entering
our food chain -- cave-ins by the FCC to media mergers and the Telecom
industry -- prosecutorial misconduct by Ken Starr and his staff with which
the media colluded -- you know the litany.
If a free press was guaranteed by the Constitution to help us keep free from
tyranny and other dangers, we're less free and safe than we used to be.



News has always been a business, in earlier days often family-owned, but when
news went public and had to answer to stockholders with higher profits, the
picture changed and newsroom budgets began to be squeezed to increase
profits. The result has often been a perpetual stream of passive news, soft
news, quick news, ticker news, sports scores, personality news, entertainment
news, fashion news, disaster news and crime news -- which is all relatively
cheap to produce.
Where's the real news?
There's a chilling irony at the center of the news problem: A century or more
ago, political bias was the journalistic style. The concept of "fair and
balanced coverage" emerged in association with the rise of stockholder
expectations in the modern Big Corp media game. Think about this: In order to
gain broader demographics to advertise products to the broadest audience,
news content could not be narrow or partisan or biased. It had to be broad
and thin, non-controversial and essentially so carefully designed in
soundbites and contrapuntal quotes, even if a quote is not factual, that it
has become virtually useless to keep us -- the people -- free and safe.
To further please stockholders, in many cases costs get cut to the bone in
newsroom budgets and the salaries of legwork reporters. It costs money to
gather and deliver news in depth and breadth, to investigate stories, to
probe into the background of things. We as decision-making and voting
citizens get what is not paid for, or paid less for, like wire stories and
warmed-over second-hand news passed around from other outlets, not originally
researched in depth but spread around as thinly and cost-effectively as
possible under a fat headline. Scandal works beautifully in this formula. A
"question raised" in enough to cause a media frenzy, despite lack of
substance. We'll catch up with the facts 6 or 8 years later.
The painter Magritte might have expressed the hole in our public information
this way:

One avenue to explore is media reform along the lines suggested by Ben
Bagdikian, a Pulitzer Prize-winning former dean of the Graduate School of
Journalism at Berkeley. His classic work 

Re: [CTRL] Fw: alleged oil shortage---aint funny (fwd)

2000-10-03 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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The North Slope was originally opened up by oddly enough BP in order to make
the United States free of the need for Middle East Oil.  It was not to be
sold at all to anyone.  It was ours.  Well then they discovered it was
"really" sour crude, and I'm not even sure it can be refined here, so they
went to Bill Clinton and assured him that selling it to Japan was the only
way the oil industry could survive in this world.  I don't think BP is
involved anymore, but Bill Clinton signed, and  Murkowski and Stevens were
slapped on the back by their oil company buddies, and they  said:  now let's
get into the Refuge.  Since George W. could care less about the environment
and since the Bush family have always been well oiled so to speak, and their
oil company buddies are still after the Refuge, Dubya can make a lot of money
doing it this way.  They  figure it will be sour crude too, but the Japanese
have no choice, since they seem to have no oil there, and they still want to
live in the modern world.   They were a lot quieter about the Refuge until
they got Clinton to sign to let them sell the oil to Japan.   Prudy

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Craig Claiborne, 79, Food Writer  Restaurant Critic Par Excellence (LATimes)
He was the author of 20 books, including "The New York Times Cookbook"
(1960), and called the man who "single-handedly invented honest restaurant
criticism". Claiborne's zest for and knowledge of food fit hand in potholder
with JFK's "New Frontier"; he was instrumental in causing an unrivaled
American preoccupation with food. Claiborne created the NYTimes restaurant
rating system and his articles made stars out of budding chefs. Of his
Mississippi roots, he wrote that "nothing can equal the universal appeal of
the food of one's childhood and early youth."

Robert McG. Thomas, Jr., 60, "Chronicler of Unsung Lives" (NYTimes)   He
started at the Times as a copy boy in 1959, and only began writing obits
(known as McG's) in 1995 -- artfully and accurately assuring that we could be
moved and inspired by fascinating lives that we might never have heard of
otherwise. How else might we have learned that Edward Lowe, a sawdust
merchant from Cassopolis, Mich., turned kiln-dried granulated clay he had
been selling as a sop for grease spills into something so totally
indispensable as Kitty Litter?

Don Martin, 68, MAD's Maddest Cartoonist(Miami Herald)  His counterculture,
edgy work appealed to adolescents who related to the grotesque characters and
X-treme humor. Martin even invented his own sounds. He drew for MAD from
1956-1987, but all along he was a quite, mild-mannered man who lived in Miami
-- drawing from the Coconut Grove beatnik scene of the 50's and 60's. Those
coneheads with "bulbous elbows and eyelids as big as palmetto bugs" were
Floridians! FAGROON! FAGROON! FAGROON!

Charles Spalding, 81, JFK Friend and Crony (LATimes) A JFK pal since their
Ivy League days, Spalding lived the Hollywood life as a scriptwriter before
turning to investment banking. He was one of the last surviving Kennedy
cronies with firsthand knowledge of JFK's starlet-hunting Hollywood escapades
from 1946 (when first elected to Congress) to his ill-fated relationship with
Marilyn Monroe.

Israel Myers, 93, American Who Created London Fog (NYTimes) The son of a
tailor parlayed a law degree and an order for 10,000 army raincoats during
WWII into the London Fog raingear empire. The fabrics were based on a
waterproof, lightweight blend developed with DuPont. Londontown was the first
clothing manufacturer to advertise on TV: "London Fog let's you laugh at the
weather."

Miss Charlotte Green, 101, 3-Century New Yorker (NYTimes) She rode buggies
and trolleys, saw Babe Ruth bat in Yankee Stadium, and heard Enrico Caruso at
the Metropolitan Opera. By the by, she was the indepensable "clerical
keystone" of the 125-lawyer firm of Lord Day  Lord (now defunct) from
1918-78. She also negotiated workmens' compensation injury claims for one of
the clients, Cunard Lines. But she was mostly remembered by friends and
family for her kindness, vitality, and modesty.

Clayton Moore, 88, The Lone Ranger (LA TImes)   He last appeared on TV in
1957, but Moore was the masked man in personal appearances for 30 years more
despite legal efforts to stop him. Where would we be without the Lone Ranger,
his white hat, Tonto, the Wm Tell Overture and a hearty "Hi-yo Silver"? "I
believe that all things change but truth, and that truth alone lives on
forever." (Lone Ranger Creed)

Bill Bowerman, 88, Legendary Track Teacher  Innovator (The Oregonian)  He
fielded championship teams (including Steve Prefontaine, Alberto Salazar) and
helped popularize the jogging craze. Bowerman revolutionized running shoe
design by creating treads made by pouring rubber into his wife's waffle iron.
He co-founded Blue Ribbon Sports -- which later became Nike -- with one of
his students, Phil Knight. The shoe became the "Nike Waffle". The now
hugely-powerful Knight calls Bowerman his personal hero.

Louis Cloitier, 75, Beloved Waitress (Miami Herald)   She had herself become
an institution, serving the rich and the famous as well as the common laborer
at the 

[CTRL] Fwd: [consortiumnews.com] Gore-Bush: Earth in the Balance?

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan





consortiumnews.com - http://www.consortiumnews.com

Vice President Al Gore and Gov. George W. Bush offer starkly contrasting
strategies for energy policies and the environment, issues that have
rarely been at the political forefront since the 1980 campaign.

Gore, author of Earth in the Balance, advocates untested approaches toward
renewable energy sources and conservation, while Bush advocates a
traditional strategy of trying to ensure continued oil supplies at
moderate prices. Bush also has financial backers with a big stake in the
outcome.

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Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?

2000-10-03 Thread nessie

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The OTO was for all intents and purposes defunct until a high level
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[CTRL] What the Investigator Saw

2000-10-03 Thread Justine Blake

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What the
Any hypocrite who wants to see change for the better in this world had
better start raising their consciousness about the suffering of the Animal
Kingdom:
Investigator Saw
The Videotape
What the Experts
Say
Factory Farming:
Pigs
PETA's Formal
Complaint
What You Can
Do


Last year, following an undercover investigation by PETA of Belcross Farm, a
pig-breeding factory farm in North Carolina, Camden County Superior Court
made history by handing down the first-ever felony indictments for animal
cruelty by farm workers, and on May 15, 2000, the courts convicted and
sentenced two of the men. One of the workers, Raymond Sanchez, was
indicted on two felony counts and received a $500 fine plus $960 in court
costs, 140 days in jail (with an additional 120 days suspended), and three
years
supervised probation. The nearly five-month sentence for Sanchez represents
the strongest penalty levied against an individual for cruelty towards
animals
raised for food in U.S. history and sends a strong message to potential
abusers
across the country. Russell Crawford, who was a manager at the farm,
received
a $300 fine plus court costs, a 45-day suspended sentence, and two years of
unsupervised probation. A third worker, Kelly Brown, awaits trial in July.

A PETA investigator spent three months working incognito at the farm and
took
hours of video footage that revealed shocking, systematic cruelty to
animals,
from daily violent beatings and bludgeonings of pregnant sows with a wrench
and an iron pole to workers sawing off a conscious animal's legs and
skinning
pigs alive.

On February 10, 1999, PETA filed a formal complaint with North Carolina law
enforcement authorities, which included testimony from veterinary and
livestock
experts. Babe star James Cromwell narrated PETA’s video about Belcross Farm.
The video aired numerous times after news of the May 15th convictions.

Please send a letter of thanks to the district attorney for taking the
matter
seriously and ensuring that these atrocities did not go unpunished. Write
to:

Frank Parrish
District Attorney for the First Judicial District
Camden County
202 E. Colonial Ave.
Elizabeth City, NC 27909





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http://www.goveg.com/pigcase.html


What the
Investigator Saw
The Videotape
What the Experts
Say
Factory Farming:
Pigs
PETA's Formal
Complaint
What You Can
Do


Last year, following an undercover investigation by PETA of Belcross Farm, a
pig-breeding factory farm in North Carolina, Camden County Superior Court
made history by handing down the first-ever felony indictments for animal
cruelty by farm workers, and on May 15, 2000, the courts convicted and
sentenced two of the men. One of the workers, Raymond Sanchez, was
indicted on two felony counts and received a $500 fine plus $960 in court
costs, 140 days in jail (with an additional 120 days suspended), and three
years
supervised probation. The nearly five-month sentence for Sanchez represents
the strongest penalty levied against an individual for cruelty towards
animals
raised for food in U.S. history and sends a strong message to potential
abusers
across the country. Russell Crawford, who was a manager at the farm,
received
a $300 fine plus court costs, a 45-day suspended sentence, and two years of
unsupervised probation. A third worker, Kelly Brown, awaits trial in July.

A PETA investigator spent three months working incognito at the farm and
took
hours of video footage that revealed shocking, systematic cruelty to
animals,
from daily violent beatings and bludgeonings of pregnant sows with a wrench
and an iron pole to workers sawing off a conscious animal's legs and
skinning
pigs alive.

On February 10, 1999, PETA filed a formal complaint with North Carolina law
enforcement authorities, which included testimony from veterinary and
livestock
experts. Babe star James Cromwell narrated PETA’s video about Belcross Farm.
The video aired numerous times after news of the May 15th convictions.

Please send a letter of thanks to the district attorney for taking the
matter
seriously and ensuring that these atrocities did not go unpunished. Write
to:

Frank Parrish
District Attorney for the First Judicial District
Camden County
202 E. Colonial Ave.
Elizabeth City, NC 27909





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Re: [CTRL] The Republic that likes to call itself Democracy

2000-10-03 Thread nessie

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Hmm...let's see what the dictionary has to say.



It doesn't matter what happens on paper. It matters what happens in real
life. In real life, this country is a plutocracy. This planet is
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course, we use it for kindling the plutocrats' funeral pyre.

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[CTRL] Home Sweet Home School

2000-10-03 Thread Alamaine

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From
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/10/02/homeschooling_battle/print.html

Go to the site for the complete (longish) story and to access various hot
linques.  AER 

}}Excerption Begin
Battling for the heart and soul of home-schoolers
Conservative fundamentalists have set the agenda for kids taught at home -- now
they're aiming to influence public education.
- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Helen Cordes
Oct. 02, 2000 | As more parents have felt alienated, frustrated or unserved by
American schools, home schooling has taken off. The number of kids taught at
home in the U.S. has more than doubled in the past five years, zooming to an
estimated 1.7 million and growing annually at an estimated 15 percent clip.
Young home-schoolers are consistently scoring beyond their grade levels on
standardized tests, while home-schooled high school students are snapping up
places at elite colleges, many of them after walking away with top honors in
national academic competitions.

Recently George W. Bush mixed home schooling with presidential politics in a
letter to a Texas home-schooler -- now circulating widely on national home-
school e-mail listservs -- in which he enthusiastically praises home schooling
and vows to fight for legislation that would allow families to set aside $5,000
tax-free annually to pay for the educational expenses of teaching at home.

Contrary to stubborn stereotypes, Bush is not preaching to the converted in
targeting voters who home-school. An exhaustive look at home schooling released
this year by former Department of Education home-school researcher Patricia
Lines exploded the stereotype that most home-schoolers are conservative
fundamentalists seeking to isolate themselves from blasphemous school systems.

End Excerption{{
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[CTRL] SNET: The EPA: An Agency out of Control (fwd)

2000-10-03 Thread William Bacon

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Bob's Note:  Perhaps I should, with the forwarding of this
excellent article, reiterate MY recently enacted 'Forfeiture
Law' for the private dwelling of sovereign citizens known to
the United States Postal Service, LLC, as Route 8 Box 422,
Gilmer, Texas  75644-8825...

"If any person or persons from any governmental,
quasi-governmental or non-governmental [NGO] agency,
come onto my sovereign land, up my driveway or
approach my home with the intent to violate any of my
God-given rights, I will shoot-to-kill, NO questions asked."

"They " will FORFEIT their life for an infraction that has, for
too long now, been taken for granted, albeit false and
incorrect, that law enforcement/government does not
always have to abide by common law or the Laws of God.
If we had just one percent of our nation (2.6 million up-
standing, God-fearing patriotic citizens) take this view
and this stand, perchance we could get our servant, our
government, to fear us instead of the master (the sovereign
citizen) fearing the servant (the "government").

Most Respectfully Submitted,
Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired)
Route 8  Box 422
Gilmer, Texas  75644-8825
903-734-6970

~~~Original Message Follows

The EPA: An Agency out of Control
By U.S. Rep. John Hostettler
September 29, 2000

 When it comes to government policies that impact your employment,
 property and pocketbook, who would you prefer to make the decisions -
an elected public servant from your community or an unaccountable
bureaucrat living hundreds of miles away?
If you prefer public policies affecting you and your family to be
 made by duly elected officials, you're in good company. Our system of
 government, both at the federal level and in Indiana, is based on the
 enactment and enforcement of laws by representatives of the people.
This model has worked well for more than 200 years.
But if you prefer to hand such decisions over to unaccountable
 and unelected outsiders, you will be pleased with the recent actions of the
 Environmental Protection Agency. This increasingly aggressive federal
 agency is eroding the ability of the people and their elected representatives
 to govern.
In the last few months alone, the EPA has bypassed existing laws,
 ignored Congress, discounted sound science, and engaged in
 job-threatening, billion-dollar lawsuits when it couldn't get its way. EPA
actions
 threaten the livelihoods of farmers and ranchers, jeopardize manufacturing
jobs,
 and risk driving up energy costs, all without the backing of law or science.
The latest outrage is the agency's new clean water regulations
 that threaten to turn landowners into lawbreakers in the event of a heavy
 rain. The new rules add farming, ranching and forestry operations to a
 measurement known as the Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL), the amount of
 particles from soil and other runoff that is carried into streams, rivers
and lakes.
The Clean Water Act required TMDL measurements only for sources
 of pollution originating from one point, such as specific industrial sites,
but
 the EPA determined that enforcing the law was not enough. The new rule
 goes so far that farmers face the need to get federal permission just to
 irrigate their crops and fields. To prevent the rules from taking effect,
 Congress added to an appropriation bill a measure prohibiting implementation
of
 the rules. But President Clinton delayed signing the bill so the EPA could
 finalize the rules without violating the law - if only by a day or so.
As a result, the EPA will heap billions in additional regulatory
 costs onto states, local governments and landowners without making our
 water any cleaner. Many state officials believe they will be forced to spend
 their time and resources on paperwork and litigation rather than solving real
 water quality problems. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has estimated
 that just one element of the EPA's plan would cost $100 million or more
 in one year.
A recent General Accounting Office (GAO) report questioned the
 cost and benefits of these rules. According to the report, the GAO
"found
 limitations with EPA's economic analyses of the proposed regulations that
raise
 questions about their reasonableness and about the determinations
 that the EPA has based them on."
The report added that the "EPA provided little information of the
 benefits associated with the proposed regulations . . . [W]ithout
 information on both costs and benefits, it is difficult to confirm that
 the regulation is economically justified."
The EPA overlooks the fact that no one has a greater interest in
 

[CTRL] Fwd: DPFOR: Re: SWISS CABINET AIMS TO LEGALIZE POT SMOKING (fwd)

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan










 It has been said that they will file to withdraw from the Single
 Convention Treaty (which we forced on the world thru the UN).
 They are supposed, I think, to give a two year notice.

the withdrawal period is 6-12 months:

http://www.taima.org/incb/e/conv/1961/index.htm
"Article 46

DENUNCIATION

1. After the expiry of two years from the date of the coming into
force of this Convention (article 41, paragraph 1) any Party may,
on its own behalf or on behalf of a territory for which it has
international responsibility, and which has withdrawn its consent
given in accordance with article 42, denounce this Convention by
an instrument in writing deposited with the Secretary-General.

2. The denunciation, if received by the Secretary-General on or
before the first day of July in any year, shall take effect on the
first day of January in the succeeding year, and, if received
after the first day of July, shall take effect as if it had been
received on or before the first day of July in the succeeding
year."

That means that if Switzerland were to witdraw no later than
December 31, 2000 the Convention would cease to apply on July 1,
2001. If it were to withdraw between January 1 and June 30, 2001
the withdrawal would take effect on January 1, 2002, etc.

Given that there probably will be a referendum on it, it may well
take longer than that though.


 Now that would be a HUGE blow to our drug warriors, who have
 always stated that this treaty was why we could not move to
legalize
 marijuana.

That claim was always bogus, since the convention leaves it up to
signatories whether to prohibit use, possession, sale, cultivation
etc. of the scheduled substances. May I quote Article 3 of the
1961 convention:

"5. The drugs in Schedule IV [including cannabis] shall also be
included in Schedule I and subject to all measures of control
applicable to drugs in the latter Schedule, and in addition
thereto:

(a) A Party shall adopt any special measures of control which in
its opinion are necessary having regard to the particularly
dangerous properties of a drug so included; and

(b) A Party shall, *if in its opinion the prevailing conditions in
its country render it the most appropriate means of protecting the
public health and welfare*, prohibit the production, manufacture,
export and import of, trade in, possession or use of any such drug
except for amounts which may be necessary for medical and
scientific research only, including clinical trials therewith to
be conducted under or subject to the direct supervision and
control of the Party." [* = emphasis by me, JW]

For example, cannabis was legal in India for years after the
country signed the Single Convention. In the United States there
is no law against cannabis use (as in "production, manufacture,
export and import of, trade in, possession or use" in the above
paragraph) though possession, trade, etc. are illegal. This
clearly illustrates the amount of discretion left to signatory
states.

The reason Switzerland is thinking about withdrawing from the
convention is that it requires signatories that choose not to
prohibit cannabis cultivation to subject it to the same system of
controls as opium cultivation, which is an extremely bureaucratic
and expensive system of controls.


 Other countries would follow the Swiss, and that would end the
 US forced drug war in much of the world.

This will certainly send signals to Switzerland's neighbours. It
will make it less likely that the Netherlands would flip back
towards prohibition. It will also set the cat amongst the pigeons
for the legalisation debate in Germany, which shares the same
language and culture with 75% of Switzerland.

It will be very hard for German prohibitionists to argue that
something that works in Bern and Basel will not work in Berlin and
Hamburg. Already Germany has decided to copy the heroin
prescription trials and has legalised heroin "shooting galleries"
where users can inject in a safe environment, which has
drastically reduced incidents of overdoses.

I can't tell you how excited I am about the developments in
Switzerland. Imagine the effects on the US drug war if Canada were
to decide to completely abandon cannabis prohibition and you come
close to what this means for several European countries.

What we need now are German and French language versions of
Mapinc.org :-)

Best regards
Joe Wein

http://www.taima.org
"Cannabis in Japan"






[CTRL] Fwd: [narconews] Drug War Meets its Waterloo in Bolivia

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan





Today's Press Briefing 
October 3, 2000 

Banzer's Titanic is Sinking 

Plot to Divide Bolivian Social Movements Fails 

General Strike Could Begin Thursday 

-- The War on Drugs Meets its Waterloo in Bolivia -- 

http://www.narconews.com/pressbriefing.html 

(NOTE: THIS IS THE FIRST OF A SERIES OF BREAKING NEWS 
REPORTS THAT SHALL BE POSTED TO OUR PRESS BRIEFING PAGE 
THROUGHOUT THE DAY. NEXT UPDATE WITHIN AN HOUR.) 

The historic drama unfolding in the South American nation of Bolivia 
deserves the attention and support of all América. It is there
that 
Bolívar's dream is awakening. The impact on the hemisphere, indeed 
the world, will be felt for years to come. 

History is knocking on América's door once again. 

But where is the US media? Where are its correspondents, special 
reporters, camera crews and helicopters? The United States press 
corps has made a profound error in believing those -- from the US 
State Department to the Associated Press organization -- who have 
signaled, blindly and incorrectly, that the social revolt in Bolivia 
will be quelled by their troops in La Paz, above all, by the dictator-
turned-"president" Hugo Banzer. 

Let history take note of the words of yet another "unnamed State 
Department source" quoted by Marcela Sanchez of the Washington post 
last week: 

--- 

A senior State Department official, who asked not to be named, 
recognized the current problem in Bolivia but didn't think it is "all 
that terrible." 

"We have full confidence President [Hugo] Banzer and his government 
will get through this," he added. The official indicated that he 
sympathized with the coca growers but added that "We cannot forget 
that what they are doing is illegal." 

--- 

Let history also note what could and should be the final report from 
the "cacique journalist" Peter McFarren of the Associated Press in La 
Paz, when against all factual record, he wrote this past weekend that 
the movement is based on "anti-white sentiment." Narco News vows: 
This will be the last unchecked lie by Mr. McFarren, who has no 
business posing as a journalist when his multi-million dollar empire 
in Bolivia is among the powers of the corrupted status quo that seek, 
desperately, to quell a revolt that will not be stopped. Coming this 
week on Narco News: The Untold Story of AP's Peter McFarren. 

The Banzer-McFarren-Washington strategy had been to divide the social 
movements: to treat the striking teachers, the water warriors, the 
coca-growers, the unions and the regional movements as they are 
treated inside the United States: as "interest groups." They tried to 
buy off the teachers and other groups and isolate the coca-growers 
leadership to justify the final bloody solution. Indeed, this beast 
in its death throes could lash out against the Bolivian people with 
brutal violence at any moment. 

But what Power forgot is that, even in this 21st century, there 
exists the human spirit, "national conscience," the moral of 
solidarity, all the values that Power and its mediated armies have 
tried to stamp out in its thirst to "globalize" the planet under 
economic dominion with the drug war as its sword. 

In recent days, the Banzer government made surgical concessions to 
various fronts in the movement in its attempt to isolate and ready 
the coca-growers for destruction. It signed an agreement with the 
rural teachers union leaders to give them more money. It pledged to 
respect the April agreements on water policy that it had already 
broken. It feigned a "suspension" of construction of three new 
military bases in the Chapare region in an attempt to calm the local 
public outrage. And Washington's lips did not even move in its 
ventriloquy when Banzer announced: The coca crop will be totally 
eradicated, even that which produces coca leaf -- and not cocaine -- 
for safe peasant consumption. 

All the players were in place to crush the movement. And with no 
other major media present, AP's McFarren was set to control the 
English-language spin, to dress up even massacres in the perfume of 
an "anti-drug" victory. 

Power's maneuver, however, did not go as planned. The 80,000 striking 
urban teachers condemned the rural teachers leadership for selling 
out the movement. The 50,000 rural teachers followed by condemning 
their own leaders and refusing to go along with the deal. They, and 
the popular movements to preserve Bolivia's water supplies, announced 
that there will be no solution until the demands by all the 
movement's sectors, including the coca-growers, are resolved. The 
coca-growers and peasants continued the blockades that paralyze the 
nation and its commerce. The urban populations in La Paz and 
elsewhere took to the streets yesterday and were repelled by the tear-
gasses of the regime. 

And then Banzer made his final error. His Air Force had been working 
overtime to fly food into the capital of La Paz and other cities: 
road access is already a distant memory. But the food 

[CTRL] RadTimes # 57

2000-10-03 Thread radman

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RadTimes # 57 - October, 2000

An informally produced compendium of vital irregularities.

"We're living in rad times!"
---
Contents:
---
--Czech Police Measures Bring Severe Violations of Human Rights
--Biometrics: a safeguard or invasion of privacy?
--FBI nabs 'anarchist' fugitive
--Hawking says greenhouse effect threatens human race survival
--New iceberg breaks off Antarctic ice shelf
--Justices To Examine Police Power
--Juvenile murders: Guns least of it
--Internet DNA test will name fathers
Linked stories:
*Worldwide internet licenses to be granted
---
Begin stories:
---
Czech Police Measures Bring Severe Violations of Human Rights

In Prague, the city of Kafka, hundreds of international visitors have been
left wondering about the precise name of their crime, after the Czech
police began a policy of random arrest following the Global Day of Action
on Tuesday. As a result of the arrests, visitors have however become much
clearer about the status of human and civil rights in the Czech Republic: a
range of serious injuries suffered by those arrested demonstrates that the
police campaign - in a country sure of gaining EU membership - has seen
gross violations of Human Rights. In addition, it is claimed that Czech
police have systematically ignored the legal rights of detainees.

The arrests began at around 10pm on the night of Tuesday September 26th -
the Global Day of Action, to bring attention to the economic policies of
the IMF and World Bank whose annual meetings were taking place in Prague.
The vast majority of those arrested were engaged in no illegal activity
whatsoever. Most were on their way to dinner or entertainment. Many
arrestees had not even attended the demonstrations. Two of those arrested
were German schoolboys.

Set against this, the police had made very few arrests during the
demonstrations, even when circumstances isolated the purportedly dangerous
elements from the main mass of protestors - as for instance during the
anarchist led stone throwing near Muzeum. Instead they waited until well
after these incidents were over and then targeted people walking about the
streets of Prague.

The spree of attacks appeared to be aimed at producing terror and
intimidation. Typical arrests included no explanation of the arrest in any
language, and the deployment of excessive force. Both are illegal. Police
violence ranged from the merely stupid, such as hair-pulling,
finger-twisting, shoving; to the criminal beating and kicking of
unresisting prisoners, slamming them against walls, severe constriction of
plastic cuffs, and the sexual harassment of female arrestees.
Police abuses continued and often escalated once prison was reached. Czech
jailers forced prisoners to stand with legs spread wide and head pressed
against the wall, often for up to three hours. Some women were ^searched^
by male officers whilst in this position, while many others were physically
harassed and beaten .

Some incidents were truly repulsive. A black arrestee was hog-tied for
several minutes and struck on the head and back by police with truncheons.
Severe abuses often seemed racially motivated. Another incident saw a
Jewish man taken away and beaten for more than 30 minutes, sustaining
cracked ribs down the whole of one side of his torso. One woman being
interrogated by police ^fell^ from an upper floor window, breaking her
spine. Severe torture has alleged to have occurred in at least one case.
Upon registration, the suspension of basic human rights continued. Some
women were strip searched and humiliated. The telephone calls mandated by
Czech law were totally denied, usually on the basis of falsehoods, eg ^we
have no telephone^. That this was a policy of strictly political repression
was demonstrated in at least one prison when a group of neo-fascist
prisoners, found in possession of clubs, a mace and a gun and captured in
the commission of actual and non-imaginary crimes, were immediately granted
access to the telephone. They were released after a few hours and given
their weapons back. Some 30% of police officers had voted for the far right
party in recent Czech elections.

Other violations of Czech law included the photographing of uncharged
detainees, possibly for use in international intelligence databases; not
giving food, blankets or medical attention; keeping detainees in prison
without charge well after the 24 hour deadline, and severe overcrowding. Up
to 20 prisoners were kept in cells measuring around nine feet by nine. Even
in the absence of charges or explanation, detainees were given 24 hours to
leave the Czech Republic upon release.

The following is a 

[CTRL] Financial Markets are Not Inherently Unstable

2000-10-03 Thread Donald Park

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Comrades:



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Financial Markets are Not Inherently Unstable By Lawrence Parks October 2,
2000

Abstract

While it is true that over the last two centuries financial markets have
been unstable, they are not inherently unstable. Misrepresentations and
nondisclosure by banks, which enable them to over-leverage, are the root
cause of financial instability. Remedies being put forth, such as a global
lender of last resort, will be counterproductive and will result in greater
instability. The solution is to the change the structure of the world's
monetary systems to remove the cause of such instability: the ability of
banks to create money out of nothing.

Why are financial markets unstable?

In the U.S. during the 19th and 20th centuries, there were numerous
boom/bust periods in which financial markets soared and then collapsed.
Question: how come this malady wasn't common to other markets, such as the
ice cream market or the automobile market? What is it about financial
markets that they tend to boom and bust? Also, it is crucial to understand
that because financial markets are interrelated with other markets, a
financial market collapse can also result in a systemic collapse.

A distinguishing characteristic of financial markets that is absent from
other markets is excessive leverage. On the futures exchanges, various
commodities are leveraged, but no one would suggest that the markets for,
say, copper or soybeans are inherently unstable. Clearly there is something
different about financial markets. That difference is inadequate
counterparty surveillance. And that inadequacy is the result of
misrepresentations and nondisclosure, which is the indicia of fraud, on the
part of key financial players: banks.

Fraud in the Basic Banking Relationship

From inception, banks made fundamental misrepresentations to their customers
regarding the basic banking relationship in two areas. First, banks told
customers that they were "depositors." At best, this was misleading. In fact
and in law, depositors were, and continue to be, unsecured creditors of
banks. Most depositors, especially small ones, however, put their money in
banks for safe keeping; they were not heedful of the risks they were taking.

Second, banks told customers that they could get "their" money back "on
demand." However, in fact and in law, when people "deposit" money in a bank,
it becomes the bank's money to do with as the bank pleases. The bank may
loan that money to someone else, invest it in whatever, including illiquid
investments, or gamble with it. Further, what banks should have told
depositors was that they could get their money back on demand provided: not
too many of them wanted to do so at the same time; the money had not been
invested in something that was illiquid and that could not quickly, and
without much loss, be converted back into cash; and, finally, that the bank
had not lost the money in some venture.

These misrepresentations lulled depositors into acquiescing to nondisclosure
on the part of banks as to what they were doing with depositors' money and
the amount of leverage banks were employing. If banks told depositors the
truth about the basic relationship, depositors would have then exerted more
counterparty surveillance over banks, excessive leverage would never have
occurred, and there would certainly never have been anything approaching
systemic failure, as almost occurred in 1907 and as did occur in 1932.

Regulation is a signal that something is wrong with the system

In his book, Soros on Soros, Mr. George Soros correctly observes that a
lender of last resort and the gold standard are incompatible. But, the only
thing that made the lender of last resort bailout facility necessary were
banking misrepresentations and nondisclosures.

By abandoning the gold standard, banks enhanced their ability to, in effect,
create money out of nothing. Whereas under the gold standard they were able
to create money, called "fractional reserve lending," there were some
(clearly inadequate) limitations on the amount of money they could create.
First and foremost, since all of the newly created money, called banknotes,
which were legally promissory notes, were redeemable on demand in gold,
there was a physical limit beyond which market forces would close a bank
that created money greatly in excess of its capital and its reserves,
thereby curtailing further money creation.

Further, with some limitations, bank officers and directors were personally
liable to depositors. These two factors led many banks to keep something on
the order of 40% of their reserves in gold, just in case. If those reserves
could be reduced, then banks could garner more profits, and first some, and
then many banks sought to do so. The notion that banks were acting
improperly was well understood by some market participants.

"Perhaps Hugh McCulloch, our first Comptroller of the Currency, may have
been somewhat over the edge, in 

[CTRL] [Fwd: (en) The Poverty of Electoral Politics]

2000-10-03 Thread Mark McHugh




From: "Bureau of Public Secrets" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:50:12 -0700


THE POVERTY OF ELECTORAL POLITICS

Roughly speaking we can distinguish five degrees of "government":

(1) Unrestricted freedom
(2) Direct democracy
(3) Delegate democracy
(4) Representative democracy
(5) Overt minority dictatorship

The present society oscillates between (4) and (5), i.e. between overt
minority rule and covert minority rule camouflaged by a facade of token
democracy. A liberated society would eliminate (4) and (5) and would
progressively reduce the need for (2) and (3). . . .

In representative democracy people abdicate their power to elected
officials. The candidates' stated policies are limited to a few vague
generalities, and once they are elected there is little control over their
actual decisions on hundreds of issues -- apart from the feeble threat of
changing one's vote, a few years later, to some equally uncontrollable
rival politician. Representatives are dependent on the wealthy for bribes
and campaign contributions; they are subordinate to the owners of the mass
media, who decide which issues get the publicity; and they are almost as
ignorant and powerless as the general public regarding many important
matters that are determined by unelected bureaucrats and independent secret
agencies. Overt dictators may sometimes be overthrown, but the real rulers
in "democratic" regimes, the tiny minority who own or control virtually
everything, are never voted in and never voted out. Most people don't even
know who they are. . . .

In itself, voting is of no great significance one way or the other (those
who make a big deal about refusing to vote are only revealing their own
fetishism). The problem is that it tends to lull people into relying on
others to act for them, distracting them from more significant
possibilities. A few people who take some creative initiative (think of the
first civil rights sit-ins) may ultimately have a far greater effect than
if they had put their energy into campaigning for lesser-evil politicians.
At best, legislators rarely do more than what they have been forced to do
by popular movements. A conservative regime under pressure from independent
radical movements often concedes more than a liberal regime that knows it
can count on radical support. If people invariably rally to lesser evils,
all the rulers have to do in any situation that threatens their power is to
conjure up a threat of some greater evil.

Even in the rare case when a "radical" politician has a realistic chance of
winning an election, all the tedious campaign efforts of thousands of
people may go down the drain in one day because of some trivial scandal
discovered in his personal life, or because he inadvertently says something
intelligent. If he manages to avoid these pitfalls and it looks like he
might win, he tends to evade controversial issues for fear of antagonizing
swing voters. If he actually gets elected he is almost never in a position
to implement the reforms he has promised, except perhaps after years of
wheeling and dealing with his new colleagues; which gives him a good excuse
to see his first priority as making whatever compromises are necessary to
keep himself in office indefinitely. Hobnobbing with the rich and powerful,
he develops new interests and new tastes, which he justifies by telling
himself that he deserves a few perks after all his years of working for
good causes. Worst of all, if he does eventually manage to get a few
"progressive" measures passed, this exceptional and usually trivial success
is held up as evidence of the value of relying on electoral politics,
luring many more people into wasting their energy on similar campaigns to
come.  As one of the May 1968 graffiti put it, "It's painful to submit to
our bosses; it's even more stupid to choose them!"

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[CTRL] Fw: [firebase-news] Fw: gwvm Toxins Producing Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

2000-10-03 Thread Amelia

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Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 3:15 PM
Subject: [firebase-news] Fw: gwvm Toxins Producing Chronic Fatigue Syndrome



 Gulf War help
 http://www.gulfweb.org

 Paralyzed Veterans of America
 http://www.pva.org

 VA-Help
 http://www.egroups.com/group/VA-problems
 - Original Message -
 From: "Rich Van Konynenburg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: gwvm Toxins Producing Chronic Fatigue Syndrome


  Thanks to Jim Moss for posting this abstract, and yes, Craig,
  "mitochondrial dysfunction" is exactly what gives rise to chronic
fatigue
  syndrome, in my opinion.
 
  Below is a write-up of my metabolic pathogenesis hypothesis for chronic
  fatigue syndrome.  My view of Gulf War Illnesses is that the variety of
  toxins to which the troops were subjected overloaded their Phase II
  glutathione detoxication subsystem, and this allowed the toxins to build
 up
  in their bodies.  Depending on which toxins an individual received, he
or
  she exhibits a different subset of symptoms, because the various toxins
  operate on the body at different locations and in different ways.
Attacks
  on the enzymes in the mitochondria will put partial blockades in the
Krebs
  cycle (Dr. Edward Conley in his book "America Exhausted" calls them
  "functional blocks."  It's the same concept.) This produces
"mitochondrial
  dysfunction," a lowering in the production of ATP below what the cells
  need, and fatigue and other symptoms ensue.
 
  Here's the write-up:
 
  May 22, 2000
 
  Metabolic Pathogenesis Hypothesis for
  Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia
 
  Rich Van Konynenburg, Ph.D.
 
  E-mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  [Disclaimer:  The author is not licensed to diagnose or treat disease.
  This paper is intended for information only, and is directed toward
 medical
  professionals and researchers.  Anyone considering using this
information
  for diagnosis or treatment does so at their own risk, and should first
  consult with a licensed health care provider.]
 
  In discussing chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) and fibromyalgia (FM), as
is
  true for other disorders, it is important to distinguish between the
root
  cause (etiology), the development of the disease (pathogenesis) and the
  abnormal function of the body after the disease has become established
  (pathophysiology).  The main emphasis of this paper is the pathogenesis
of
  these disorders, but there is also discussion of some etiologies
proposed
  by others.
 
  The essential idea of the Metabolic Pathogenesis Hypothesis for these
  disorders is that the onset of CFS/FM occurs when a chronic partial
  blockade is inserted somewhere in the chain of reactions that make up
the
  Intermediary Metabolism. The Intermediary Metabolism is involved in
using
  nutrients from food as fuel and forming ATP (adenosine triphosphate) for
  use in powering many different reactions in the cells, including the
  contraction of muscle fibers and the generation of electrical potentials
 to
  power the nerve impulses (action potentials).  The Intermediary
Metabolism
  is composed of glycolysis, the pyruvate dehydrogenase complex, the Krebs
 or
  citric acid cycle, and the respiratory chain.
 
  According to this hypothesis, the population of people who have been
  diagnosed with CFS or FM (PWCs) using the CDC case definition [1] or the
  American College of Rheumatology criteria [2] did not all have the same
  root cause for their disorder.  Rather, there are several subsets of
PWCs.
  Each subset has a different etiology, but all the etiologies have in
 common
  the fact that they impact the Intermediary Metabolism by inserting one
or
  more chronic partial blockades somewhere within it.  Since the reactions
 of
  Intermediary Metabolism are dependent on one another, a partial blockade
  anywhere within this series causes a decrease in the production of ATP,
 and
  this in turn leads to many of the observed symptoms.
 
  According to this hypothesis, different etiologies insert the partial
  blockades at different places in the intermediary metabolism. This
 explains
  why subsets of PWCs differ in terms of their history of triggering
 factors,
  speed of onset, biochemical indicators, and response to various
 treatments,
  while at the same time they generally share a more or less common set of
  symptoms.
 
  The common set of symptoms arises from the common pathogenesis and
  pathophysiology, which flow from the various etiologies, but the
 individual
  etiologies are different.  As an analogy, consider a chain of mechanical
  gears performing some useful work.  It is possible to throw a monkey
 wrench
  into the gears at several different places, but the end result is the
 same:
  the gear train will slow or stop, and the useful work will not be done
at
  the same rate as before.
 
  One major etiology (perhaps applying to the largest subset of PWCs)
 appears
  to be the 

[CTRL] Clinton removed from certificate (fwd)

2000-10-03 Thread Amelia

-Caveat Lector-

Clinton removed from certificate (fwd)


  Eagle Scouts drop
 Clinton signature=20
 After 'about a zillion complaints,'
 president removed from certificate=20


 By David M. Bresnahan
 =A9 2000 WorldNetDaily.com=20


 Following complaints from "thousands of parents" nationwide, Boy Scouts
of=
 =20
 America has quietly removed the signature of President Bill Clinton --
the=
 =20
 honorary president of BSA -- from the certificate presented to Eagle
Scouts=
 .=20

 "We had about a zillion complaints about Clinton, so I think they just
took=
 =20
 him off. I don't know if they'll put a president back on or not when
there'=
 s=20
 a new one," said Chris who works in the Great Salt Lake Council office
in=20
 Salt Lake City, Utah. She said the change came from the national
office.=20

 Not only were there many complaints, but a large number of Eagle Scouts=20
 actually returned their certificates and asked for a replacement
without=20
 Clinton's signature.=20

 "I don't really know. I know that there were a lot of people that asked
tha=
 t=20
 the president's signature not be on them. I think they reprinted them
witho=
 ut=20
 it. I don't know," said Sandra at the national BSA office.=20

 "When they reprinted the Eagle Scout certificates they left off the=20
 president's signature because we're in the process of a change of
president=
 s.=20
 And, we've had so many problems with the president's name on the
certificat=
 e=20
 -- so many people objecting -- that they just decided to put just the
board=
 =20
 president on the certificate from now on. It just created a lot less=20
 controversy," she explained.=20

 No special announcement was made when the Boy Scouts of America changed
the=
 =20
 award certificate earlier this year. The certificate is presented to boys
w=
 ho=20
 earn the rank of Eagle Scout, the highest rank a Boy Scout can attain.
Ther=
 e=20
 have been no complaints now that Clinton's signature is absent from the=20
 certificate.=20

 "They're printed documents. It's not like President Clinton actually
signed=
 =20
 them," explained Greg Shields, national spokesman for the BSA. "When we=20
 exhausted our supply we gave it a little thought and we decided to just
put=
 =20
 the signature of the actual president of the Boy Scouts. He represents
a=20
 volunteer who's personally involved in the administration and direction
of=
 =20
 the Boy Scouts of America."=20

 Shields confirmed that BSA council offices all over the country
received=20
 thousands of complaints following the Monica Lewinsky scandal and the=20
 impeachment of Clinton. He said those complaints had nothing to do with
the=
 =20
 change. He insisted the change was simply to have focus on the signature
of=
 =20
 the "real" president of Scouting on the certificate instead of the
"honorar=
 y"=20
 president.=20

 "That's all it reflected. Nothing more," said Shields.=20

 Past certificates included both the BSA president's signature and that of
t=
 he=20
 president of the United States. The new certificates, however, have=20
 eliminated Clinton's signature.=20

 Congress may take the issue one step further. A bill has been filed to
stri=
 p=20
 BSA of the national charter Congress gave it in 1916. A group of
homosexual=
 =20
 rights activists has been fighting the popular organization -- despite
the=
 =20
 recent Supreme Court ruling in BSA's favor -- to change its policy of=20
 excluding homosexuals from youth membership and adult leadership, and
they=
 =20
 want the charter revoked.=20

 Scouting for All has organized a national campaign against the BSA and
has=
 =20
 rallied many homosexual organizations to its cause. Democratic Rep.
Lynn=20
 Woolsey, District 6 Calif., filed H.R. 4892 entitled "The Scouting for
All=
 =20
 Act: To repeal the Federal charter of the Boy Scouts of America."=20

 "It's not in response to that either," said Shields of the proposed=20
 legislation, noting that the change on the certificates took place many=20
 months before the bill was filed by Woolsey.=20

 Local Scout leaders in Utah claim Clinton is the first U.S. president not
t=
 o=20
 make a speech at the Boy Scout National Jamboree, and that he is the first
=
 to=20
 have his signature eliminated from the prestigious Eagle Scout award=20
 certificate.=20

 Shields said he hasn't been around long enough to confirm or deny those=20
 reports.=20

 Shortly after Clinton took office in 1993, he failed to show up at the=20
 National Jamboree, located only 70 miles from the White House. The press
at=
 =20
 the time blamed the snub on Clinton's effort to please the homosexual
lobby=
 =20
 -- a major source of campaign donations.=20

 The next jamboree was held in 1997, and this time Clinton attended.=20

 "We are grateful. Please recognize that he did come. That's
significant,"=20
 said Shields.=20

 Shields did not know if press reports in 1993 stating that Clinton was
the=
 =20
 first U.S. president to turn down an invitation to speak at 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [consortiumnews.com] Gore-Bush: Earth in the Balance?

2000-10-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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 consortiumnews.com - http://www.consortiumnews.com

 Vice President Al Gore and Gov. George W. Bush offer starkly contrasting
 strategies for energy policies and the environment, issues that have
 rarely been at the political forefront since the 1980 campaign.

 Gore, author of Earth in the Balance, advocates untested approaches toward
 renewable energy sources and conservation,

This is a lie. I am very disappointed to see Consortium trying pull a
fast one.

Gore is a complete plutocrat tied to the oil business. If he was really
green, we would have seen it in the last eight years. Instead we got NAFTA
and the WTO, and a federal giveaway of a huge oilfield to his benefactors at
Occidental Petroleum.

For SHAME Consortium! Bunch of liars.

Joshua2

 while Bush advocates a
 traditional strategy of trying to ensure continued oil supplies at
 moderate prices. Bush also has financial backers with a big stake in the
 outcome.

 For the full story, go to Consortiumnews.com, at
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[CTRL] Report on CIA-Drugs Sympsoium II in LA

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

-Caveat Lector-

We shall see . . .

Low attendance cast its gloom, but much has happen since to help dispel "them
blues."

Again, the local media ignored event. Event information was faxed, phoned and
emailed to local newsrooms by myself and others. Again there was interest
from afar, the conference was written-up in Philly City Paper
www.citypaper.net/articles/092100/sl.howcol.shtml,  there was s camera-person
there from www.guerrillanews.com (a real interesting site) and it was
recorded by Pacifica for a "premium" during their pledge drive. And there we
others there taping so hopefully the event will be seen and/or heard by more
than were there.

Also, it seems as there were some technical advisors for at least on major
Hollywood Producer/Director and there is interest in the story of CIA-Drugs,
and of the stories told both by the train death murders and the story of
Barry Seal. We shall see . . . Contact was made.

I will be putting up some more realaudio files from the conference
www.cia-drugs.org - The first ones will be the ones that I have in complete
file, I will have to wait for some to get portions of audio from the video
tape. Listen and judge for yourself.

I just watched Linda and Jean's video Obstruction of Justice, iffin ya
haven't seen it, strongly recommend. Also lots of new books are coming and
are out. Links at www.cia-drugs.org  These authors need our support.

The New York conference is still in the works, but we are looking at either
Jan or late Feb.

Many thanks to all who helped, those who came and . . . to you.

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[CTRL] Fwd: AMERICAN PATRIOT FRIENDS NETWORK

2000-10-03 Thread Aleisha Saba

Interesting item re Columbine - I have always wondered who the kids was
hiding in a closet who called CNN rather than 911..also why Klebold
and Harris are not treated as victims also, for they were somewhat
outsiders to the Trench Coat Mafia, on fringe area.

So I would like to know more about the son of the FBI Agent who
investigated the case, and the tape they made - advance tickets to
murder, the plan all drawn up in a movie...was also interested in a
teacher who had son who was "porn star"..the classes in death -
sounds like something out of a Wynonna Ryder Movie - say Heathers for a
start?

Seems to me Klebold and Harris had a mentor, like a Manson out there
somewhere - what about the two kids later murdered at the Subway
Shop

And not too far away of course, we had little JonBenet with her father
engaged in work that was described as "top secret" - oh so secret - so
many secrets at Denver from weather modification to you name it.

Saba

A. Saba
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[CTRL] WSJ: Independent Counsel Probes IRS, Justice Department on Cisneros Case

2000-10-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

-Caveat Lector-

October 3, 2000

Politics  Policy

Independent Counsel Probes IRS, Justice Department on Cisneros Case

By DAVID S. CLOUD
Staff Reporter
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

WASHINGTON -- An independent counsel is investigating whether the
Internal Revenue Service and Justice Department obstructed his
probe of former Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros, lawyers
familiar with the matter said.

Independent Counsel David Barrett is questioning IRS officials
who were involved in the Cisneros case and has indicated he will
look at the Justice Department's role as well.  And he has
widened his focus to look at whether the Clinton administration
allowed politics to influence its handling of other tax cases
involving Democrats, one of the lawyers said.

It is unclear whether Mr.  Barrett has authority to investigate
the IRS and Justice Department treatment of tax cases beyond that
of Mr. Cisneros, but the probe has become more serious in recent
weeks.

Mr.  Barrett convened a grand jury two months ago and pressured a
career IRS lawyer in the chief counsel's office into testifying
by telling him that he was a subject of the probe, people
involved said.  The IRS employee, whose name couldn't be
determined, invoked the Fifth Amendment in order to secure an
immunity deal and is now cooperating, two lawyers said.  He has
testified several times and was asked about his work on the
Cisneros case.  Other IRS officials have testified as well.

Mr.  Barrett still lacks hard evidence of wrongdoing by officials
at either agency, people familiar with the matter said.
Although the law authorizing independent counsels lapsed last
year, Mr.  Barrett's office is grandfathered until he completes
his probe and issues a final report.  His activities are loosely
monitored by a three-judge panel of federal judges, but his
original mandate permits him to investigate possible obstruction
of justice without requiring him to seek additional authority.

In a January letter to two senators asking about the Barrett
obstruction inquiry, IRS Inspector General David Williams said
that he was "coordinating with Mr. Barrett in his ongoing
investigation." He said he was providing Mr. Barrett with
"investigative support."

Asked about his probe's latest focus, Mr.  Barrett said, "We have
consistently followed the rule of not talking about matters that
may be under investigation." An IRS spokesman wouldn't comment.
A lawyer for Mr.  Cisneros didn't return calls.  Mr.  Barrett has
yet to question officials from the Justice Department about the
matter, a department lawyer said.

Mr.  Barrett, a onetime federal prosecutor and GOP congressional
candidate who was briefly considered for the post of U.S.
Attorney for the District of Columbia by the Reagan
administration, was appointed by the three-judge panel in 1995.
His original mandate was to look into whether Mr.  Cisneros lied
during a background inquiry by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation about not having paid hush money to a former
mistress.  After a four-year, $9 million investigation, Mr.
Cisneros in 1999 acknowledged lying about a "personal matter,"
pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and paid a $10,000 fine.

The relatively soft terms of the plea bargain led to widespread
criticism that Mr. Barrett had overreached.  But rather than
close down his office, he began looking into an incident that
happened early in his investigation, lawyers involved say.

In 1997, Mr.  Barrett had wanted to look into allegations that
Mr. Cisneros failed to report income from speeches.
Investigators suspected that Mr.  Cisneros had signed over checks
from speaking engagements to his mistress.  When Mr. Barrett
presented his evidence for broadening the case to Attorney
General Janet Reno and some of her top criminal division
deputies, they ruled -- after consulting with the IRS -- that he
could look into only one year's tax returns, according to a
lawyer involved.  Mr.  Barrett had sought to conduct a multiyear
review of Mr. Cisneros's finances, but department officials
argued there was cause to look at only one year.  They decided
any other violations would be under the jurisdiction of the IRS.

The IRS official who received immunity from Mr.  Barrett was
involved in the agency's decision not to pursue a broad tax case
against Mr. Cisneros, said two lawyers involved.  After looking
at the matter, the IRS and the Justice Department had decided
there wasn't a prosecutable case, a lawyer said.

The latest investigation follows three years of suspicions voiced
by GOP officials about the administration's possible political
interference with the IRS.  A string of IRS audits of
conservative groups and critics of President Clinton -- from the
Heritage Foundation to Paula Jones -- prompted Republicans to
assert that the White House was using the tax agency to pressure
its enemies.

But an independent investigation by Congress's bipartisan Joint
Tax Committee earlier this year found no evidence of any attempts
by 

[CTRL] Fwd: URGENT Message from the Chairman...

2000-10-03 Thread Aleisha Saba

Well seems to me it demands fair play here so please note, the political
hacks are lined up - the Hilliary Machine and Clinton Machine and Bush
Whackers - they are ready to bombard the TV with their non-biased
opinions?

Me I am gong to watch Cartoon Network.   After the big debate of course,
for as they say the die is already cast..its 2000 - the dreadful
Astrologer's Curse is warming up with pens of ready writers ready to
take aim at the heart of America..premeditated chaos.

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local time in your region).

Given the "leanings" of the members of the media, already we are seeing
efforts to down play Al Gore's killer debate tactics so as to lower
expectations for his performance.

Moreover, we are hearing that many liberal left wing groups will be trying
to stack the vote in favor of the Democratic candidate by bombarding the
various news websites which will be polling immediately following the
debate.

In addition to watching the debate, you should log on to:

http://www.cnn.com/allpolitics

or alternatively go online at:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/

and express your support for who you think won the debate!

The Democrats and their left wing allies are very good at organizing such
guerilla efforts.  We are alerting you to give you the opportunity as an
individual to be heard as loudly as these liberal special interest groups.

Please log on tonight: Vote after the debate and make your voice heard!

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[CTRL] new web page - http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/Book1/CNS1.htm

2000-10-03 Thread ThePiedPiper

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When I compiled this in MS Word
the summaries were short but there
are over 30 pages of citations
by MS word count.

Even if you
do not agree with my beginning the
citations have taken years to put
togeather.

http://ThePiedPiper.tripod.com/Book1/CNS1.htm

I hope you enjoy,
Laura Lee Lanning~Shipton

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: FDA conflicts of interest (USA Today)]

2000-10-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"M. A. Johnson" wrote:

 -Caveat Lector-

 Bastiat
  Property is prior to law; the sole function of the law
  is to safeguard the right to property wherever it exists,
  wherever it is formed, in whatever manner the worker
  produces it, whether individually or in association,
  provided that he respects the rights of others.

 Joshua
  Property is NOT prior to law. Only wishful thinking of
  greedy oinkers would like to make it so. Property will
  be revised DOWN in importance as time goes on
  because the world sees quite clearly what happens
  when property is worshipped above life.
 MJ
 One has PROPERTY in their LIFE ...

Gee that's deep Johnson. That's like the chemical company
who's ads say " without chemicals, there would be no life."


 ... But then you prefer SLAVERY ... being the epitomy of 'greedy'.

Yes, that's right. I'm greedy and you're not. I want everyone to be
a slave my family, my kids, you.

You are a greedy shit. And you went to all this trouble to
dig up the philosophies of other greedy shits like you to
rationalize being a greedy little shit.

Why don't you just liberate your innermost self and ' come out'.

" I'M A GREEDY LITTLE SHIT AND I'M PROUD."  You'll feel better.

Joshua2


 Regard$,
 --MJ

 The only fence against the world is a thorough knowledge
 of it. -- John Locke


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Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?

2000-10-03 Thread NSA

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Define "Occult" and "Satanist"

Some would, for example suggest that such terms could be applied to Roman
Catholicism, and the RC Jesuits who enact their "Spiritual Exercises."

This religio-political organization has consorted with, been involved with,
and necessarily influenced Intel Orgs for CENTURIES!

http://www.tuppersaussy.com/mostpowerfulman.htm

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Subject: Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?


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   The anecdotal evidence, from survivor accounts I've come across over the
 years, is that many/most make an intel connection to their ritual abuse
 experiences.  Dr. Bennett Braun documented many such accounts from
survivors
 who linked their perps to national senators, CEO's of Fortune 500
companies
 and members of the intelligence community.  He started to give such
accounts
 credibility when they fell under the rules of 3, 4 or 5 - when 3 or more
 survivors who didn't know each other named the same prominent person.

   Constantine cites a marriage between intel and satanic cults beginning
in
 the early 60's, as a trade-off:  protection of cult members from
prosecutions
 in exchange for info on mind-control techniques.  He wrote about this in
 "Psychcic Dictatorship" but his reference for this was only a speech given
by
 someone else.  More than one survivor believes the marriage occurred long
 before the early 60's.

   There is no hard evidence that I am aware of - as there rarely is where
 covert ops are concerned.  I take it as a given that there is a profound
 connection between the two, and proceed from there.  But so what?  It
hasn't
 helped me get anywhere with it.  If we had full accountability with
 Congressional oversight for each penny spent on covert ops, we might get
 somewhere.  But the inmates are still running the asylum.

 Samantha

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  Hi -
 
   I'm curious what people think about occult belief systems operating
   within the intelligence community? The famous Aquino/satanism case has
   always interested me, that something so strange and twisted really
   happened. Also, I've often wondered if any of the occult Nazi beliefs
   operating during World War II perhaps bled over to America during
   Paperclip? (After all, didn't Aquino perform some weird satanic rite
   while visiting Germany?)
 
   Aside from the Aquino saga, I've only heard rumors and conspiracy
   theories involving Montauk, mind-control, and maybe Jack Parsons group
   at JPL during the 1960s. Is there any hard evidence that this is
   widespread, or is it the exception to the rule?
 
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[CTRL] MRC: Bush Not Prepared to Be President; CBS's Self-Contradiction

2000-10-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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When posted, this CyberAlert will be readable at:

http://www.mrc.org/news/cyberalert/2000/cyb20001003.html


Media Research Center CyberAlert
Tuesday October 3, 2000 (Vol. Five; No. 185)


Bush Not Prepared to Be President; CBS's Self-Contradiction;
Tipper Tossed Softballs; CNN's Campaign Finance Reform Agenda


1) ABC and CBS highlighted pre-debate polls which put Gore ahead.
Dan Rather stressed how "only 49 percent say Bush is prepared
well enough for the job of President." NBC's Claire Shipman
gushed of the "citizen advisers" for Gore: "It's almost as if he
has his own group of private...public opinion pollsters right
here with him."

2) CBS contradicted itself. Dan Rather reported that "73 percent
of voters polled say the next President's power to appoint new
justices will be an important influence election day," but
seconds later a CBS reporter maintained "polls suggest" the
impact of the Supreme Court is "just not registering with the
public."

3) NBC's Matt Lauer admitted he was "a little disturbed" to learn
the race had tightened after Bush went on Oprah. Katie Couric
tossed softballs at Al Gore's daughter, but she demanded a Bush
operative respond to Bob Dole's assessment that "there's a
feeling" that Bush isn't ready, "that he doesn't fill the suit."

4) Tipper Gore appeared on both ABC and CBS Monday morning, but
neither raised Al Gore's most recent spate of fabrications.
Instead, they tossed softballs. CBS's Julie Chen wanted to know
if in the White House Tipper and Al will still go to the movies.

5) Time-Warner will use post-debate town meetings on CNN to
advance its liberal agenda, National Review revealed. CNN
boasted: "The series of town meetings is part of Time Warner's
plan to support campaign-finance reform through voter education."

6)  On Fox News Sunday Brit Hume asked Gore campaign chairman
Bill Daley about Al Gore's promise that he would favor granting
the same privileges for immigration to same sex couples planning
on a civil union as provided those in a traditional marriage.

7) Media Reality Check Quick Take: While Hillary Clinton refuses
to be quizzed on any Sunday interview show, three networks have
given her town meeting forums, an opportunity they have failed to
extend to Rick Lazio.

8) MRC ad in today's Boston Herald: "Where is the Balance? How
the TV Networks are Covering Up for Al Gore."


 Latest Notable Quotables now online. The October 2
edition of Notable Quotables, the MRC's bi-weekly compilation of
the latest outrageous, sometimes humorous, quotes in the liberal
media, is now up on the MRC Web site thanks to Kristina Sewell
and Andy Szul. Amongst the quote headings: "Military Junta
Forming for Bush"; "Rape, Murder: Now That's Funny"; "Like
Hillary: Praise or Slander?"; "Hillary, the Victimized Guinea
Pig"; "Credit Gore, Blame Both Sides"; "Berke, Led Around by the
Nose"; "‘Headline Exceeded the Facts'" and "Do Me, JFK."

To read all the quotes, go to:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/news/nq/2000/nq20001002.html

For the issue as a life-like Adobe Acrobat PDF file, go to:

http://www.mediaresearch.org/news/nq/2000/pdf/oct022000nq.pdf 


 1) Just in time for what Tom Brokaw hyped as what "may be
the most important debate since John Kennedy and Richard Nixon 40
years ago," ABC and CBS Monday night announced the results of
their new polls. ABC's put Gore up by 48 to 46 percent while CBS
found Gore ahead 45 to 41 percent as Dan Rather stressed how
"only 49 percent say Bush is prepared well enough for the job of
President."

CBS reporter Bill Whitaker noted how Bush "knows fumbled
facts, verbal stumbles" could hurt him. On ABC's World News
Tonight, Terry Moran quizzed Gore on the beach about being "too
aggressive" in the debate. All three broadcast network evening
newscasts showed video of Gore walking along a Florida beach with
his "citizen advisers." NBC's Claire Shipman gushed: "It's almost
as if he has his own group of private and constant public opinion
pollsters right here with him in Florida."

Some quotes and reporting of note from the ABC, CBS and NBC
evening shows on Monday, October 2, all of which aired back-back-
stories from reporters traveling with both camps. ABC and NBC
both led with violence in Israel while CBS put the campaign at
the top of its show.

-- ABC's World News Tonight debuted new graphics and a new
mix of its same theme music. Peter Jennings announced how an ABC
News/Washington Post poll put Gore ahead 48 to 46 percent.

Jennings read some other poll findings, including how 60
percent supposedly prefer smaller government. But that question
revealed a gender chasm since 70 percent of men but only 48
percent of women "prefer smaller government." On that same gender
split theme, women back Gore 56 to 38 percent while men prefer
Bush 53 to 40 percent.

Gore won in three other areas listed by Jennings. On who do
you "trust to handle education," Gore said 50 percent compared to
39 percent for 

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: FDA conflicts of interest (USA Today)]

2000-10-03 Thread M.A. Johnson

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Bastiat
   Property is prior to law; the sole function of the law
   is to safeguard the right to property wherever it exists,
   wherever it is formed, in whatever manner the worker
   produces it, whether individually or in association,
   provided that he respects the rights of others.
Joshua
   Property is NOT prior to law. Only wishful thinking of
   greedy oinkers would like to make it so. Property will
   be revised DOWN in importance as time goes on
   because the world sees quite clearly what happens
   when property is worshipped above life.
MJ
  One has PROPERTY in their LIFE ...
Joshua
 Gee that's deep Johnson. That's like the chemical company
 who's ads say " without chemicals, there would be no life."

MJ
Nope ... your fallacy of equivocation.

One either OWNS their life ... or another does.  One TRADES
portions of his life (usually measured in time) to others for
portions of theirs (usually measured in some store of value).



MJ
  ... But then you prefer SLAVERY ... being the epitomy of 'greedy'.
Joshua
  Yes, that's right. I'm greedy and you're not. I want everyone
   to be a slave my family, my kids, you.

MJ
Apparently you have trouble with English.


Joshua
 You are a greedy shit. And you went to all this trouble to
 dig up the philosophies of other greedy shits like you to
 rationalize being a greedy little shit.

MJ
Your fallacy of ad hominem and ad novitatem.

*I* simply believe ALL individuals should have access to their
OWN life ... free to live it in a manner which allows others the
same.


Joshua
  Why don't you just liberate your innermost self and ' come out'.
  " I'M A GREEDY LITTLE SHIT AND I'M PROUD."  You'll feel better.
MJ
You pick a word which cannot be defined and attempt to
pass your ad populum nonsense upon the dumbmasses.


Regard$,
--MJ

Every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has
any right to but himself. The labor of his body and the work
of his hands are properly his. -- John Locke, 1690

It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all.
  -- Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795.

No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights
of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain
him.  -- Thomas Jefferson to Francis Gilmer, 1816.

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[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Ezola: Running the Liberal Hate Maze

2000-10-03 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Brigade,

"During the same period we became aware of the fact that the
California Black Republican Council selected delegates who
would parrot the Democrat Party’s socialist line within the
Republican Party, thereby blocking the emergence of authentic
conservative views among black Republicans  All of this
illustrates that the race-based application of Lenin’s collectivist
strategy is faithfully followed by leaders of both major parties.
And it is not just black Americans who find themselves trapped
in this system."

WOW!  An incredibly intense column by our very own VP
candidate Ezola - she hits the mark on every issue!

GO EZOLA GO!
Linda

--

The New American - February 14, 2000
Running the Liberal Hate Maze
by Ezola Foster

In recent years, the public has been assailed with rhetoric
condemning "the politics of hate," which according to leftist
commentators and politicians is the exclusive domain of
conservatives and traditionalists. In the final weeks of the 1998
congressional campaign, Bill Clinton used several political
addresses before predominantly black congregations to
insinuate that the Republican congressional majority was
motivated by hatred of black Americans. At the same time, the
Democratic National Committee ran radio advertisements that
said, in so many words, that every time a vote was cast for a
Republican candidate, a black church would go up in flames.

This campaign of misrepresentation became an exercise in self-
parody during the impeachment struggle, with Bill Clinton’s
partisans insisting that his critics were acting from disguised
racist motives. Radical black essayist Toni Morrison even
conferred upon Bill Clinton the unlikely title of America’s "first
black President," the better to "authenticate" the supposedly
racist motives of his critics. More recently, Donna Brazille, the
manager of Vice President Al Gore’s floundering presidential
campaign, told the Washington Post that she was determined
not to let "the white boys win" — once again advancing the
notion that opposition to the variety of socialist politics
embodied by Gore is ultimately propelled by white racism.

As used by the Left, the term "racism" — like "sexism" and
the recently minted expression "homophobia" — has no
objective meaning. As a black conservative American, I can
attest from personal experience that the Left excels at the
politics of race hatred. For defending Bible-based values, the
traditional family, and our constitutional system, I have been
assailed as a "conservative Uncle Tom," a "racist," a
"homophobe," and other unsavory epithets that cannot be
repeated in a family magazine. I spent 17 years as an activist
in the Democrat Party before I came to the conclusion that the
left wing that controls the Party is motivated not by a love of
the oppressed, but rather by hatred for the values I cherish and
those who defend them.

"We must hate," Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin exhorted his
followers. "Hatred is the essence of communism." Lenin
gathered around him a movement of those who regarded
themselves as victims and who were motivated by hatred for
Russian society; once the Bolsheviks came to power they
created a regime that left behind tens of millions of corpses
and the ruins of a wrecked nation. America’s Establishment-
anointed "Black Leaders" — Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan,
Maxine Waters, and others — faithfully follow Lenin’s
destructive blueprint.

Leninist politics is based entirely upon lies, and the most
important lie told by Leninist race-baiters like Jesse Jackson is
that black Americans are not individuals, but rather part of one
undifferentiated "community" — headed, of course, by Jackson
and other "Black Leaders." When I was a candidate for the
California State Assembly in 1984, I saw billboards throughout
Watts and South Central Los Angeles proclaiming, "ONE
VOICE! ONE PEOPLE! ONE VOTE!" Those billboards were
placed in support of Jesse Jackson’s presidential campaign.

The evil that the Jackson campaign slogan represents can be
better appreciated if it is presented in rough German
translation: "EIN VOLK! EIN REICH! EIN FUHRER!" ("One
people, one kingdom, one leader.") The Jackson campaign
was using exactly the same rhetoric, and the same race-based
politics that had been used so successfully by Lenin’s German
disciple, Adolf Hitler. Thus it was appropriate that Jackson
supporter Maxine Waters, as a congressman, vocally
supported the Brownshirt-like street thugs who tore South-
Central Los Angeles apart during the 1992 "Rodney King" riots.
It was also appropriate that Waters was a devoted defender of
Bill Clinton during the impeachment hearings, insisting that
whatever offenses Mr. Clinton may have committed against the
rule of law, he was her leader — her Führer — in the struggle
against the "radical right."


[CTRL] [BRIGADE] ME: PJB Stands for Property Rights

2000-10-03 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Brigade,

"Unlike other national candidates, who do whatever they can to
stay out of controversial local issues, Buchanan came to
Sanford specifically to speak out against Question 2..."I know
that this is a state issue, but I'm saying vote no on Question
2," Buchanan told reporters. "Frankly, it's not going to work,
because if (small woodlot owners) can't get their value out of
the land and they sell it, then you are going to get urban sprawl
out of it..."

Brigade, I just received some of the photos from Pat on the
Trail in Maine and will get a full report later today.  I have to go
into HQ for a meeting so will not begin work on Monday's Trail
Report until this evening.  But stand by -- I've heard it was
another outstanding day... on the Trail!

See article below and if you follow the link there is a photo of
PJB at a lumber mill in Sanford Maine.
http://www.portland.com/news/york/001003buchanan.shtml

GO PAT GO
Linda

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Tuesday, October 3, 2000

Buchanan takes on forestry referendum

By GREGORY KESICH
Portland Press Herald

SANFORD — Pat Buchanan donned a hard hat, posed in front
of stacks of milled lumber and said he was delighted to be
running for president again.

"I'm an outstanding candidate whatever party I'm in," said the
Reform Party nominee, who ran two other races as a
Republican. "I'm someone who likes to get out and campaign. I
enjoy meeting the people. I like doing the town meetings, the
TV, radio, all of it."

Buchanan came to Maine on Monday as part of a two-day blitz
through New England that started in New Hampshire, where he
won the presidential primary four years ago, and ends tonight
in Boston, where his two major-party opponents will debate
without him.

While the LaValley Lumber yard in Sanford was a typical
setting for a presidential candidate's photo opportunity,
Buchanan's message was not typical.

Unlike other national candidates, who do whatever they can to
stay out of controversial local issues, Buchanan came to
Sanford specifically to speak out against Question 2, a
statewide forestry referendum that would limit timber harvesting
on land in the state's tree-growth tax-relief pro-gram.

"I know that this is a state issue, but I'm saying vote no on
Question 2," Buchanan told reporters. "Frankly, it's not going
to work, because if (small woodlot owners) can't get their value
out of the land and they sell it, then you are going to get urban
sprawl out of it."

Proponents of the forestry referendum belittled Buchanan's
statement.

"It's meaningless," said Jonathan Carter, who led the campaign
to get Question 2 on the ballot. "Mr. Buchanan doesn't know
the first thing about what is happening in the Maine woods. He
is eager to come here and exploit this issue by energizing the
forces of right-wing extremism in the state of Maine."

On the contrary, LaValley chief executive officer Brian Thayer
said Buchanan understands the issue completely.

Thayer said hosting Buchanan was not an endorsement for the
candidate, but he welcomed the attention Buchanan's visit
brought to the issue.

A crowd of 15 people followed Buchanan throughout his tour of
the lumber mill and watched him pose next to Bob Lord, who
was inspecting pine finish board for imperfections.

A recent statewide poll conducted by Strategic Marketing
Services showed Buchanan with less than 1 percent support in
Maine. He is not daunted.

"Maine has always been friendly to independents," Buchanan
said. "We just got out on the road a week and a half ago, and
we are just starting from ground zero. We've got to give it
everything we've got."

In addition to Question 2, Buchanan weighed in on several
other issues.

Buchanan called his exclusion from the presidential debates "a
minor conspiracy" by the Presidential Debate Commission,
which is made up entirely of Democrats and Republicans.

"The American people have been denied the right to hear a
presidential candidate that they are paying for with their tax
dollars," Buchanan said.

On projected high heating costs this winter, Buchanan called
for opening up protected lands to oil drilling, increasing
electrical generation through more use of coal and nuclear
power, and adopting a get-tough policy with oil-producing
countries.

"No foreign aid, no World Bank loans, no IMF loans, and,
frankly, no security guarantees for any country that conspires
in looting the American people," he said.

Jeff Robinson, a college student and disabled veteran, said he
left the Republican Party when Arizona Sen. John McCain lost
the nomination to Texas Gov. George W. Bush.

Robinson said he will vote for Buchanan, even though he
doesn't expect him to win, and he is not worried about wasting
his vote.

"Voting your conscience and vision is what keeps this country
going forward," he said. Later, at a forum at Edward Little High
School in Auburn, Buchanan's camp allowed 

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Buchanan: Americans First

2000-10-03 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Brigade,

"Buchanan said he would strive to provide an administration
“that constantly and consciously puts Americans first”   “We
must never surrender the sovereignty and the liberty of the
United States,” he declared.  He said he disagrees with Vice
President Al Gore because of his positions on many issues
and he disagrees with Texas Gov. George W. Bush because
“he won’t fight Mr. Gore"

GO PAT GO!!!
Linda



From:   "Steven Hoffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Candidate speaks in Auburn
Date sent:  Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:46:04 -0400

October 3, 2000
Buchanan: Americans first
By David A. Sargent

Special to the Sun Journal

AUBURN - About 150 Pat Buchanan supporters cheered their
candidate Monday night at a rally at Edward Little High School
as a group of several dozen young demonstrators presented
orderly opposition to his positions.

The Reform Party candidate repeated his outrage at being
excluded from tonight’s presidential debate in Boston. He said
the Reform Party deserves to be in the debates because the
party receives federal funding and taxpayers have a right to
hear what that share of election funding represents.

The youthful demonstrators, most too young to vote, waved
signs and chanted before Buchanan’s talk and they gathered in
four or five small clusters after the rally where they continued
their political arguments among themselves. During the talk,
they stood in a row along the back wall of the ELHS half-court
gymnasium setting.

There were no surprises in Buchanan’s remarks. He covered
many of the conservative issues with which he is identified and
responded forcefully to several opponents who charged him
with bigotry over his pro-life and anti-civil union stands.

“If you take a stand on these issues, you’re going to get called
names,” he said.

Buchanan said he would strive to provide an administration
“that constantly and consciously puts Americans first.”

“We must never surrender the sovereignty and the liberty of the
United States,” he declared.

He said he disagrees with Vice President Al Gore because of
his positions on many issues and he disagrees with Texas
Gov. George W. Bush because “he won’t fight Mr. Gore.”

His animated presentation served as a rehearsal for his
appearance less than an hour later on CNN’s “Larry King Live.”
He repeated most of his Auburn rally statements on that
national broadcast shot at WMTW.

On the subject of education, Buchanan said, “The federal
government should have no role in education from kindergarten
through high school,” but he quickly back-pedaled as a young
man seated in the audience in a wheelchair shouted, “What
about special ed? What about special ed?”

Buchanan said Washington should send money for special
education back to the states in the form of block grants and
the states should determine how it should be spent.

[NOTE FROM LINDA:  "Back-pedaled" ???  Pat did NOT
backpedal - he CLARIFIED.  The Federal Govt gets out of our
education system and the power AND money goes back to the
states]

However, if elected, he said, he would “shut down the
Department of Education.”

He charged that Bush and Gore “are taking the nation in the
wrong direction on issue after issue.”

Calling the bombing of Serbia “an unjust war,” Buchanan said
his first action after becoming President would be to “take the
troops out of Kosovo and put them on the border of California
and Mexico.” Buchanan said the government should put a stop
to what he claimed is a steady stream of thousands of illegal
immigrants across the border daily.

He denounced the recent approval of the RU-486 abortion pill;
he denounced favored trade status for China, and the North
American Free Trade Agreement; and he called for “a strong,
clear-eyed foreign policy.”

He warned that both the Republican and Democratic parties
are allowing America to drift toward participation in world
government

Asked what the U.S. Supreme Court would be like in his
administration, Buchanan said, “I would appoint pro-life
constitutionalist conservatives.”

Following a 45-minute talk and question-and-answer session,
Buchanan signed many autographs and talked one-on-one with
many from the audience. He and his wife, Shelly, were among
the last 20 or 30 people to leave the gymnasium.

Julie Tosswill, vice chairman of the Maine Reform Party, said
she had hoped for a larger turnout. She blamed news media
apathy.

Buchanan has been a senior adviser to three presidents and
twice been a candidate for the Republican presidential
nomination. From 1966 through 1974 he was a confidant and
assistant to Richard Nixon. He challenged George Bush for the
Republican nomination in 1992 and almost upset the president
in the New Hampshire primary. In 1996 he won the New
Hampshire primary, and 

[CTRL] THESE DEBATES WILL BE ALMOST AS FUN AS WATCHING GRASS GROW

2000-10-03 Thread Bill Richer

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FREEDOM NOW NETWORK  - October 3, 2000
THESE DEBATES WILL BE ALMOST AS FUN AS WATCHING GRASS GROW
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By Sam Venable, The Knoxville News-Sentinel, October 3, 2000

Ever since Richard Nixon dabbed sweat off his lips while debating John
Kennedy on TV, American politicians have realized the importance of looking
good in front of the camera.  Thus, Republican George W. Bush and Democrat Al
Gore are busy rehearsing what to do and say when they square off in Boston
tonight in the first of three jousts.  Neither party has asked for my advice.
Nonetheless, I have prepared the following suggestions each candidate might
bear in mind as Campaign 2000 lumbers on:

FOR GEORGE W. BUSH
* "Neener-neener-neener!" and "So?!" are not recommended as effective
counterpoints.
* Even in the heat of the questioning, refrain from saying, "Please hold the
cue cards higher. I can't read the answers."
* Cowboy boots and blue jeans are definitely a sartorial no-no.
* Go quickly to the jugular on educashu  . . eduket  . . edducc -- on the
importance of makeing Amurika's skools gooder.
* "Because my dad says so!" will not score points, even among Lincoln
Republicans.
* Although you may be embarrassed to say it, the capital of South Dakota is
pronounced "pee-err."
* "There You Go Again!" was not the title of Ronald Reagan's most memorable
movie.
* When the subject of taxes arises, avoid prefacing your replies with, "As I
was tellin' the boys down at the club the other day ..."
* Never use the word "Astro-Turf" in discussions of environmental
initiatives.

FOR AL GORE
* Keep both hands in plain view so the audience can see all fingers remain
uncrossed.
* Sworn, signed, notarized statements from everyday citizens, and dogs, you
use to illustrate your points wouldn't hurt, either.
* Bury earth-tone duds in the same grave as Earth Shoes. Is it too much to
ask for a plain suit, white shirt and necktie just this once?
* If the terms "soft money," "fund-raiser" or "Buddhist temple" creep into
the debate, deflect attention by pointing off-stage, shouting: "Look! It's
Elvis!" and fainting momentarily.
* Commit the response "Bill who?" to memory and use it frequently.
* "Because my dad said so!" will not score points, even among yellow-dog
Democrats.
* The Kiss worked once. Don't press your luck, especially not with moderator
Jim Lehrer. Even if he's wearing a blue dress.
* If opponent wisecracks about your wooden appearance, do not attempt to
impress him with a soliloquy about the cellular structure of the oak genus,
Quercus, even if you did invent the Linnaean form of botanical
classification, along with penicillin, WD-40 and the wheel.
* Best to limit promises of Social Security benefits to, oh, $500,000 monthly
for every man, woman and child. Otherwise, voters might get the notion you're
just throwing out any ol' figure that sounds good at the moment.

And now, America, perk up a pot of strong coffee, and (yawn!) let the debates
begin.
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COMMENT: Personally, I may watch tonight to see what Tweedledee (Bush) and
Tweedledum (Gore) will NOT talk about.  I know that they WILL talk about
spending or not spending the Budget Surplus even though they will "pretend"
they are talking about the "issues".  Yes, it is like I make $50,000 in
salary -- but I make up a budget for $100,000.  It's OK because I can borrow
$50,000 on my good credit -- and go ahead and spend $100,000.  That is what
our illustrious REPUBLICAN CONGRESS has done.  They just didn't overspend as
much as the Democrats have spent in the past -- and call it a SURPLUS.  GIVE
ME A BREAK.  I will make a LIST of what they will NOT debate (they can't
because they would have to take the same side of these issues).  Even though
there is a SHOOTING war going on in PALESTINE/ISRAEL, they won't mention it.
Albright will straighten this out -- and negotiate a cease fire.  The
Israelis will withdraw their military tanks and grenades; and the Arabs will
stop throwing rocks.  They won't talk about the coup being worked out between
Iran and Iraq and other countries -- (all about OIL) -- since I don't think
OIL or OIL taxes will be mentioned.  They won't mention WHY the other
Presidential Candidates are not part of the Debates!!!  According to BALLOT
ACCESS NEWS October 1, 2000 - there is NO 

[CTRL] Gun Refresher Course

2000-10-03 Thread Bill Richer

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Gun Refresher Course

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Colt : The original point and click interface.
4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
8. If you don't know your rights you don't have any.
9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
10. The United States Constitution © 1789. All Rights Reserved.
11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
12. The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.
13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
14. Guns only have two enemies: Rust and Politicians.
15. Know guns, know peace. No guns, no peace.
16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
17. 911 - government sponsored Dial a Prayer.
18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
19. Criminals love gun control - it makes their jobs safer.
20. If Guns cause Crime, then Matches cause Arson.
21. Only a government that is afraid of it's citizens tries to control them.
22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.
23. Enforce the "gun control laws" in place, don't make more.
24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
25. The American Revolution would never have happened if the colonists had
submitted to Gun Control Laws.
26. (My [BB's] contribution) At least Mothers Against Drunk Drivers are smart
enough
   NOT to have gone after cars as the problem!

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[CTRL] Date: 03 October 2000 Federalist #00-40.brf

2000-10-03 Thread Bill Richer

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"It has always been the custom at Roane County High School football
games to say a prayer and play the National Anthem to honor God and
Country. Due to a recent ruling by the Supreme Court, I am told that
saying a prayer is a violation of Federal Case Law.  As I understand
the law at this time, I can use this public facility to approve of
sexual perversion and call it an alternate lifestyle, and if someone
is offended, that's OK.  I can use it to condone sexual promiscuity by
dispensing condoms and calling it safe sex. If someone is offended,
that's OK.  I can even use this public facility to present the merits
of killing an unborn baby as a viable means of birth control. If
someone is offended, no problem.

"I can designate a school day as earth day and involve students in
activities to religiously worship and praise the goddess, mother
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Apparently, we are to be tolerant of everything and anyone except God
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students to abide by rules with which they do not necessarily agree.
For me to do otherwise would be at best, inconsistent and at worst,
hypocritical.  I suffer from that affliction enough unintentionally. I
certainly do not need to add an intentional transgression.

"For this reason, I shall, 'Render unto Caesar that which is
Caesar's,' and refrain from praying at this time. However, if you feel
inspired 

[CTRL] U.S. Troops in Colombia Threatened

2000-10-03 Thread Bill Richer

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U.S. Troops in Colombia Threatened
By Andrew Selsky
Associated Press Writer
Sunday, Oct. 1, 2000; 4:13 p.m. EDT

LARANDIA ARMY BASE, Colombia -- U.S. special forces stationed in this
sprawling army base near large concentrations of leftist guerrillas on
Sunday faced renewed threats from the insurgents.

But a general in Colombia said he has sufficient forces to repel any threat
to the U.S. forces who are training troops in a U.S.-aided drug war.

Concerns about the safety of the approximately 85 elite American soldiers at
Larandia were highlighted after Andres Paris, a commander of the
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, was quoted as saying that
"all Colombian or foreign military personnel who are in the combat zones
will be military targets."

A general commanding a brigade of 4,800 Colombian troops in this mountainous
region of jungle and pasture land where troops and rebels frequently clash
said his force was sufficient to protect the Americans from the FARC. The
rebels have infiltrated combatants toward the exterior of the base to look
for weak points, said Col. Julian Villate, the base commander.

An Associated Press team, the first journalists to visit Larandia since the
American soldiers arrived two months ago, saw the special forces compound on
the base but was denied permission by the U.S. Embassy to interview or
photograph the troops.

The U.S. Army Green Berets and members of the 720th Special Tactics Group
from Pope Air Force Base, N.C., are training two counter-narcotics army
battalions under a $1.3 billion U.S. aid package to this South American
nation.

Paris' comments, posted Thursday in New Colombia News Agency, a web site run
by FARC supporters and considered a reliable source, echoed previous
statements by FARC commanders. They did not come as a surprise, said Raul
Duany, spokesman for the Southern Command, which is in charge of U.S.
military operations in Latin America.

"It's nothing we didn't expect or didn't know. It's a very difficult
situation down there," Duany said over the phone Sunday from the Southern
Command's headquarters in Miami.

Duany said under the U.S. troops' rules of engagement, they are authorized
to fire back if attacked or caught in a cross fire.

He refused to give specifics on how the military is reacting to Paris'
statement, but said U.S. forces' security is being constantly evaluated and
that "drastic protection methods" would be taken if necessary.

Gen. Javier Arias, commander of the Colombian army's 12th Brigade that
includes Larandia, insisted that the FARC's 3,000 combatants in the region
pose no direct threat to the base.

"We're not worried about security in Larandia," Arias said in an interview
Friday. "We have troops constantly on the move between the base and where
the rebels are."

Larandia is a two-hour drive west of a Switzerland-sized zone ceded by the
government to the rebels last year in an attempt to push moribund peace
talks forward. The rebels also have units to the north, west and south of
the base - the closest 9 miles away, according to Arias.

The U.S. troops toted loaded weapons whenever they left their compound:
either an assault rifle or even a pistol tucked into their shorts. They did
not leave the base itself.

The special forces, many of them Hispanics, train the Colombian soldiers in
advanced combat techniques. Except for their insignia, many of the Americans
are barely distinguishable from their Colombian counterparts.

When they returned to their compound - a cement building and a cluster of
large tents dotted with satellite dishes - through an opening in a roll of
concertina wire, the U.S. troops ejected the loaded clips from their rifles.

Under President Clinton's aid initiative, the Americans can only train the
Colombians and are barred from accompanying Colombian troops into combat.

There have been no reports of fighting in the immediate vicinity since the
Americans arrived at the base, located below mist-shrouded mountains a
40-minute drive from the provincial capital of Florencia.

But in July last year, there was a two-day battle between FARC rebels and
Colombian soldiers just 3 miles away in which 20 rebels were reportedly
killed and one government soldier wounded, Villate said.

There have been other firefights since then, 12 or more miles away, the base
commander said.

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[CTRL] Fw: Walden Bello on deglobalization

2000-10-03 Thread Robert F. Tatman

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 The following article is longer than those we usually send out on this
 listserv, but its significance, we believe, merits your attention. It is
 written by Walden Bello of Focus on the Global South (Thailand) and the
 University of the Philippines, and also a member of the 50 Years Is Enough
 Network's South Council.  Its conclusion, in particular, begins the
 necessary process of constructing an answer to "what kind of world do we
 envision?"


 FROM MELBOURNE TO PRAGUE: THE STRUGGLE FOR A DEGLOBALIZED WORLD
  by: Walden Bello

  TNI Fellow

  Talk delivered at a series of engagements on the occasion of
 demonstrations against the World Economic Forum (Davos) in Melbourne,
 Australia, 6-10 September 2000

  _

  Walden Bello stated.

  We are, here in Melbourne in the next few days and in Prague in two weeks'
 time, participating in an historic enterprise: that of creating a critical
 mass to turn the tide against corporate-driven globalization.

  For years, we were told that globalization was benign, that it was a
 process that brought about the greatest good for the greatest number, that
 good citizenship lay in accepting the impersonal rule of the market and good
 governance meant governments getting out of the way of market forces and
 letting the most effective incarnation of market freedom, the transnational
 corporation, go about its task of bringing about the most efficient mix of
 capital, land, technology and labor.

  The unrestricted flow of goods and capital in a world without borders was
 said to be the best of all possible worlds, though when some observers
 pointed out that to be consistent with the precepts of their 18th century
 prophet, Adam Smith, proponents of the neoliberal doctrine would also have
 to allow the unrestricted flow of labor to create this best of all possible
 worlds, they were, quite simply, ignored.

  Such inconsistencies could be overlooked since for over two decades,
 neoliberalism or, as it was grandiosely styled, the 'Washington Consensus'
 had carried all before it. As one of its key partisans has nostalgically
 remarked recently, 'the Washington Consensus seemed to gain near-universal
 approval and provided a guiding ideology and underlying intellectual
 consensus for the world economy, which was quite new in modern history.' (1)

  GLOBALIZATION UNRAVELS I: The Asian Financial Collapse

  The unrestricted flow of speculative capital in accordance with Washington
 Consensus doctrine was what our governments in East Asia institutionalized
 in the early 1990s, under the strong urging of the International Monetary
 Fund and the US Treasury Department. The result: the $100 billion that
 flowed in between 1993 and 1997 flowed out in the bat of an eyelash during
 the Great Panic of the summer of 1997, bringing about the collapse of our
 economies and spinning them into a mire of recession and massive
 unemployment from which most still have to recover. Since 1997, financial
 instability or the constant erosion of our currencies has become a way of
 life under IMF- imposed monetary regimes that leave the value of our money
 to be determined day-to-day by the changing whims, moods, and preferences of
 foreign investors and currency speculators.

  GLOBALIZATION UNRAVELS II: The Failure of Structural Adjustment

  The Asian financial crisis put the International Monetary Fund on the
 hotseat, leading to a widespread popular reappraisal of its role in the
 Third World in the 1980s and early 1990s, when structural adjustment
 programs were imposed on over 70 developing countries. After over 15 years,
 there were hardly any cases of successful adjustment programs. What
 structural adjustment had done, instead, was to institutionalize stagnation
 in Africa and Latin America, alongside rises in the levels of absolute
 poverty and income inequality.

  Structural adjustment and related free-market policies that were imposed
 beginning in the early 1980s were the central factor that triggered a sharp
 rise in inequality globally, with one authoritative UNCTAD study covering
 124 countries showing that the income share of the richest 20 per cent of
 the worlds population rose from 69 to 83 per cent between 1965 and 1990. (2)
 Adjustment policies were a central factor behind the rapid concentration of
 global income in recent years - a process which, in 1998, saw Bill Gates,
 with a net worth of $90 billion, Warren Buffet, with $36 billion, and
 Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen, with $30 billion, achieve a combined income
 that was greater than the total combined income of the 600 million that live
 in the worlds 48 least developed countries, a great number of which had been
 subjected to adjustment programs.

  

[CTRL] AP: Amazing but true: bisexual harrassment is legal

2000-10-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39d8a87d25ed.htm:

Law Exempts Bisexual Harassers

Government News Keywords: SUPREME COURT
Source: AP via Newsday.com
Published: October 2, 2000 Author: AP
Posted on 10/02/2000 08:23:41 PDT by JeanS

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court rejected the appeal of a
married couple who say they were sexually harassed at work by the
same supervisor, letting stand a ruling that said a key federal
law does not apply to bisexual harassers.

The court, acting without comment on Monday, turned away the
appeal of Steven and Karen Holman, who work together in the
maintenance department of the Indiana Department of
Transportation.

They sued the state and the department in 1997over the alleged
conduct of their supervisor, shop foreman Gale Uhrich.

In the lawsuit, Karen Holman alleged that Uhrich had been
harassing her since late 1995 -- touching her body, standing too
closely and asking her to go to bed with him.

Her husband alleged that Uhrich had begun in the summer of 1995
to ask him for sexual favors.

Both spouses also alleged the Uhrich retaliated against them for
rejecting his advances.

The lawsuit invoked a federal law known as Title VII of the Civil
Rights Act of 1964, which bans on-the-job discrimination because
of someone's sex.

A federal trial judge threw out the sexual-harassment allegation
in the Holmans' lawsuit, and the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of
Appeals upheld that dismissal last May.

''Title VII does not cover the 'equal opportunity' or 'bisexual'
harasser ... because such a person is not discriminating on the
basis of sex,'' the appeals court ruled. ''He is not treating one
sex better or worse than the other; he is treating both sexes the
same albeit badly.''

In the appeal acted on Monday, the Holmans urged the nation's
highest court to give the federal law a broader sweep than did
the 7th Circuit court.

''Title VII is not a 'bisexual immunity' statute -- it prohibits
sexual harassment in the workplace,'' the appeal argued.

The case is Holman v. Indiana, 00-230.


On the Net: For the appeals court ruling:

http://www.uscourts.gov/links.html

and click on 7th Circuit.

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[CTRL] WSJ: The October Surprise: Readers Respond

2000-10-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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[There are some very interesting ideas in the below.]


The October Surprise: Readers Respond
By James Taranto, editor of OpinionJournal.com.
WALL STREET JOURNAL
http://interactive6.wsj.com/articles/SB97052892538728009..htm

Since Labor Day this page's Web site, OpinionJournal.com, has
been running an October Surprise contest, asking our readers to
guess what President Clinton will do to influence the campaign.
It's now October, and the deadline for entries is past. We posted
a total of 716 submissions from readers, some of whom predicted
more than one October Surprise. Steve Eggleston of Oak Creek,
Wis., listed 31 -- one for each day of the month.

By far the most popular prediction, cited in 80 entries, was a
military action involving Iraq. This forecast has a basis in
history, for Operation Desert Fox, Mr. Clinton's December 1998
strike against Iraq, was as conveniently timed as it was oddly
named. But if the president thinks dropping a few bombs on Saddam
will make the difference on Election Day, he might remember that
Desert Fox succeeded in postponing impeachment by all of one day,
and that military victory against Iraq didn't save President Bush
in 1992.

Two predicted October Surprises have already become September
Surprises. Forty-two readers cited a release of oil from the
Strategic Petroleum Reserve, though some did so after President
Clinton ordered one on Sept. 22. Frank Fahey of Baltimore was the
first, in an entry posted Sept. 7. And several readers cited
regulatory approval of the abortion drug RU-486, though only
Peter Capra of Rocky Hill, Conn., did so before the Food and Drug
Administration acted last Thursday.

We tallied the results and divided them into categories. Here are
the top 10:

1. War (156 entries). After Iraq, the most often cited enemies
were China (23), Yugoslavia (16) and Colombia (6). Three readers
suggested -- tongue-in-cheek, we hope -- that Mr. Clinton would
launch a military strike against Texas. In a similar vein, C.
Hosmer of Boise, Idaho, said Mr. Clinton would "nuke Utah and
blame it on the Mormons for being 'Intolerant.' "

2. Intervention in the oil market (83). Along with a release from
the SPR, 10 readers predicted Mr. Clinton would strike a deal
with the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, eight
said he'd cut the federal gas tax, and five said he'd impose new
price regulations.

3. Attack on Gov. Bush, other Republicans or Clinton critics
(78). Forty-five readers said this would take the form of the
spreading of rumors or dirt about Mr. Bush or his allies.
Twenty-nine predicted government investigations and seven went so
far as to say Mr. Bush or other Clinton critics would be
arrested. Our most worrisome entry came from Charles Hyde of
Indianapolis: "The editorial board and columnists of The Wall
Street Journal will be rounded up in late October and charged
with sedition, treason, and/or hate-thought crimes against Al
Gore and the Clintons."

4. Domestic confrontation (51). Forty-six readers predicted
President Clinton would force a government shutdown and then
blame it on Republicans. Hey, it worked in 1995.

5. Personal matters (47). The most popular prediction in this
catchall category was a marital split for the Clintons, cited by
eight readers. Others included a Clinton apology or religious
conversion, a Gore-style kiss between the Clintons, and the
revelation of another extramarital affair (after all, Monica
Lewinsky did wonders for those job-approval ratings). One of the
funniest entries came from Allan Radman of Aptos, Calif.:
"Hillary, Tipper and Hadassah will all announce that they are
pregnant. And, in a moment of confusion, Al Gore will announce on
'Larry King Live' that he too is pregnant. At the same time,
Geraldo Rivera will attack Gov. Bush for not being pregnant."
Note: This category would have placed higher had we not rejected
the really tasteless entries.

6. An ethnic pander (45). Far and away the most popular
prediction in this category, cited by 27 readers, was a pardon
for Jonathan Pollard, the spy for Israel, to shore up New York's
Jewish vote for Hillary. A very distant second, with four
entries, was a move of the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel
Aviv. Only about a dozen readers cited actions aimed at winning
black or Hispanic votes; these included demagoguing on behalf of
minority judicial nominees, banning "racial profiling" by
executive order and ending naval bombing at Puerto Rico's Vieques
range.

7. Stepping down (44). Thirty-three readers predicted that Mr.
Clinton would resign the presidency to give Mr. Gore the
advantage of running as an incumbent. Another 11 readers
predicted that Mr. Clinton would step down temporarily for
reasons of physical or mental health, allowing Mr. Gore to act
"presidential."

8. Peace (39). Mr. Clinton will strike a deal between Israel and
the Palestinians, 33 readers thought. Two readers each predicted
Korean reunification and a peace agreement in Yugoslavia, and

[CTRL] Discovery Institute Reports on Evolution

2000-10-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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SEATTLE, Sept. 26 /U.S. Newswire/ -- A report titled "Good
Science, Bad Science: Teaching Evolution in the States," just
released by the Thomas Fordham Foundation, fails to point out
that biology students are being "systematically misled about the
scientific evidence," say Dr. Jay Richards and Dr. Jonathan
Wells, both Senior Fellows of Seattle's Discovery Institute,
"thereby encouraging precisely the sort of bad science it
pretends to criticize."

Authored by Lawrence Lerner, the report criticizes the
"disgraceful" treatment of evolution in nineteen states, giving
many of them a grade of "F." "But the really serious issue in
science education", says Wells, a Berkeley-trained biologist, "is
the systematic misrepresentation of evidence for Darwinism in
biology textbooks."

For example, most textbooks have pictures of light and dark
peppered moths resting on tree trunks. This textbook example of
Darwinian natural selection supposedly shows that dark moths are
better camouflaged on pollution-darkened tree bark, and thus less
likely to be eaten by predatory birds. But since the 1980s
scientists have known that the moths do not normally rest on the
tree trunks. "The story is deeply flawed," says Wells, "and
students deserve to learn that the pictures in their textbooks
were staged--often with dead moths."

Drawings of similar embryos of fish and humans, supposedly
demonstrating their common ancestry, are another example of how
students are misled about the evidence for evolution. "The
drawings have been repeatedly exposed as fakes since they were
produced over a century ago," says Wells, "yet most biology
textbooks still carry them."

The Lerner report faults several states for not teaching enough
about evolution, but it completely ignores these and other
falsehoods. "The report thereby implicitly condones scientific
misconduct," according to Richards, "not the sort of truth and
accuracy that we have a right to expect in science education."

Richards emphasizes that biology students need to learn about
evolution, but insists that the subject be taught with due regard
for the evidence. "The Fordham Foundation normally does fine work
on educational reform. But in this case, they are getting
terrible advice."

Wells discusses the moths and embryos and other textbook
misrepresentations in a new book, Icons of Evolution (Regnery,
2000).

For more information Dr. Jonathan Wells and his work visit
http://www.iconsofevolution.com. For media inquiries or to
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[CTRL] NM: Debate Moderator Sitting on Gore Time Bomb

2000-10-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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http://newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/10/3/105016

Debate Moderator Sitting on Gore Time Bomb

When PBS's Jim Lehrer moderates Tuesday night's debate between
presidential candidates Al Gore and George Bush, he'll be armed
with devastating information developed by his own network that
could throw the Gore campaign into chaos.

The question is, will the left-leaning Lehrer ask Gore about what
he knows, or protect the Tennessee Democrat from the single-most
damaging revelation yet to emerge from his presidential bid?

On Monday night, Lehrer's PBS aired the premiere episode of
"Frontline: The Choice 2000," a multi-part in-depth look at the
backgrounds of both candidates. The pre-debate broadcast focused
on Gore and included a dramatic interview with his once "best
friend" John Warnecke.

For the first time on national TV, Warnecke went public with
charges that Gore was a heavy drug user during the years they
worked together at Nashville's Tennessean newspaper in the 1970s.
More problematic still, Warnecke told "Frontline" how Gore
personally pressured him to go along with a cover-up of their
marijuana-filled years, which included lying to reporters.

Gore leaned on his old buddy during a series of phone calls in
1987, as the up-and-coming politician was mounting his first bid
for the White House.

First Warnecke got a call from Gore's chief of staff, Peter
Knight.

"Peter had - I had known Peter from organizing fund-raising
affairs for Al," Warnecke told "Frontline." "Peter said that the
marijuana issue was coming up and the press was on it, asking
questions about Al's marijuana use. And they wanted me to
basically deny that Al smoked with me. ... They wanted me to - to
basically lie to the press when they called ..."

A little later, presidential candidate Gore himself was on the
line, trying to force his old friend to hide the truth:

"I told him I wouldn't hurt him," Warnecke told "Frontline." "He
would come back again and not believe - it was as if he wouldn't
believe me. ... He pushed me hard. And I kept telling him I
wouldn't hurt him. I couldn't hurt him ..."

The exchange still didn't satisfy Gore, who called back an hour
later to keep the heat on.

"He was asking me again to put forth this line that this was a
private issue, not privy to the press to know anything about,"
Warnecke told "Frontline." "And I kept - I repeated again to him
that I was not going to hurt him. 'My God, you're my best friend.
I'm not going to hurt you. I can't hurt you, Al. It's not in my
conscience to hurt you.'"

When reporters called, Warnecke did his best to honor his promise
not to hurt Gore and still not completely lie. Rather than
acknowledge the hundreds of times he says he and Gore got high
together, Warneke told reporters at his former paper, the
Tennessean, and at the New York Times that he'd only seen Gore
smoke dope once.

The account was close enough to the Gore campaign's modified
limited hangout cover-story - that Gore's dope-smoking was
"infrequent and rare" and had ceased shortly after he got back
from Vietnam - to satisfy the press.

Warnecke says that it hurt so much to lie to reporters, he broke
down in tears under questioning by the New York Times.

Presidential debate moderator Jim Lehrer knows all about Gore's
marijuana cover-up, having no doubt viewed his own network's
Warnecke interview several times before it aired Monday night.

Would Lehrer ignore the issue if a witness had recently told PBS
he was pressured to lie about sharing drugs with George Bush?

That's highly doubtful. Reporters have avidly pursued rumors that
Bush once used cocaine - personally challenging the candidate
numerous times - even without a witness like Warnecke speaking on
the record.

Whether Jim Lehrer ignores his own network's scoop about Gore's
marijuana cover-up during Tuesday night's debate will be a true
test of his journalistic integrity.

For a full transcript of the "Frontline" interview with John
Warnecke, go to www.pbs.org. PBS does not intend to re-broadcast
the segment.


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[CTRL] CNN Debat Chat/Spin Room

2000-10-03 Thread Steve Wingate

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Very Cool! (I'm Robot_vs_Reptilian ;-)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/debates/spin.room/

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[CTRL] MSNBC: Richardson accused of Lee leak

2000-10-03 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Richardson accused of Lee leak

Secretary of energy named Wen Ho Lee as suspect in spying,
ex-aide testifies

MSNBC STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS WASHINGTON, Oct.  3 — A former
Energy Department investigator whose own conduct in the Wen Ho
Lee case has been harshly criticized fought back Tuesday,
testifying before a congressional panel that Energy Secretary
Bill Richardson was himself responsible for leaking the
scientist’s name to the media.


NOTRA TRULOCK, the former head of counterintelligence at the
Energy Department, testified Tuesday that a New York Times
reporter had told him that Richardson identified Lee as the
primary suspect in the investigation.  It was Trulock’s first
public comment on the case since he abruptly resigned from the
department in August 1999 amid growing controversy over his role
in the Lee case.

“One of the reporters involved in the publication … told me
directly that Secretary Richardson had provided to him the name
of Wen Ho Lee,” Trulock testified at a hearing before a Senate
Judiciary subcommittee that is looking into the government’s
handling of the Lee case. Asked if he could identify the
reporter, Trulock replied, “James Risen, New York Times.”

ENERGY DEPARTMENT DENIAL

In response to a phone call seeking comment, Energy Department
spokesman Stu Nakurka said, “Secretary Richardson categorically
denies this outrageous accusation.”

At the Times, spokeswoman Kathy Park said, “We never comment on
speculation about the identities of confidential sources.” Lee’s
lawyers have filed a Privacy Act lawsuit against both the Energy
and Justice departments, claiming that Richardson and others
leaked Lee’s name to various news organizations.  The case is in
the very early stages, before U.S.  District Judge Thomas
Penfield Jackson in Washington. Risen was one of two New York
Times reporters who in March 1999 broke the story of an alleged
spying incident at Los Alamos National Laboratory in which China
had obtained U.S.  nuclear secrets.  Lee was not identified in
the initial story, but his name surfaced in a follow-up report in
the Times and in stories by other news organizations, including
MSNBC.com, several days later.

At Tuesday’s hearing, Trulock also targeted accusations by senior
Energy Department officials that he made Lee the focus of the
agency’s investigation because of what one investigator claimed
were “racist views toward minority groups.” He charged that
Energy Department investigators Robert Vrooman and Charles
Washington had made false public statements about his conduct
during the investigation. It was Washington who charged in a
sworn affidavit filed on Lee’s behalf that Trulock had exhibited
“racist views toward minority groups.” Vrooman, in a similar
affidavit, charged that Lee had been unfairly targeted by Trulock
and others because he is a Chinese-American. Vrooman, who retired
from the Energy Department last year, was himself reprimanded by
Richardson for allegedly failing to assist the FBI investigation
of suspected Chinese espionage.


Trulock said both Vrooman and Washington, as well as other senior
officials at the lab and at the FBI, had been briefed throughout
his investigation and had never expressed concerns about its
direction until public criticism erupted following the
near-collapse of the government’s case against Lee. He said he
has filed lawsuits alleging libel and slander against Richardson,
Vrooman, Washington and Lee in an effort to clear his name.
Trulock is himself under investigation for allegedly compromising
classified information.

FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE

Vrooman acknowledged Tuesday that he had failed to communicate
with Trulock despite being angry over what he considered the
investigation’s improper focus on Lee.  He said he kept quiet
because senior officials had instructed him to get along with
Trulock and because he was confident that the FBI would clear
Lee.

“We decided as a matter of course to let the FBI have this case,”
he said.  “They’ve always protected people’s civil rights and we
thought they would quickly come to the same conclusion that we
had” — that Lee was guilty of carelessness but not espionage.

Also at the hearing, a senior scientist at the Los Alamos lab,
John Richter, told lawmakers that he was not talking about all
the material that Lee downloaded when he testified at a bail
hearing that “99 percent” of the information that Lee had copied
onto tapes was unclassified.

Richter said he was referring only to computer codes detailing
basic scientific principles widely circulated since the 1950s,
not material deemed “secret and restricted” that included basic
design details of U.S.  nuclear devices.  After being fired by
the lab, Lee was arrested in December and charged with 59 counts
of downloading classified weapons information, including data
that one government scientist characterized at the time as the
“crown jewels” of the U.S. weapons program.

The government’s case against Lee ultimately proved 

[CTRL] Cease-fire fails, gun battles rage in West Bank, Gaza Strip

2000-10-03 Thread Amelia

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By GREG MYRE
The Associated Press
10/3/00 7:42 PM


JERUSALEM (AP) -- Palestinian gunmen battled Israeli soldiers Tuesday at
isolated army posts in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that have degenerated
into virtual free-fire zones, as both sides defied a cease-fire call on the
eve of a U.S. attempt to salvage peacemaking.

Tuesday's death toll of five was the lowest since the fighting began last
week. In addition, 206 people were injured, according to the Palestinians.
Overall, 56 people have died and at least 1,300 have been wounded, the vast
majority Palestinian.

"The results have been very painful," Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak
said, adding that he had called on Israel's security forces "to make a
supreme effort to prevent further casualties."

Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat head to Paris on Wednesday in
hopes that Secretary of State Madeleine Albright can help end the fighting
and revive peace talks. The two also have agreed to meet in Egypt with
President Hosni Mubarak on Thursday.

Barak, meanwhile, was battling for political survival at home, trying to
appease Arab legislators who are threatening to topple his government over
the harsh crackdown on rioters in Israel's Arab towns. The internal
rebellion, the worst since Israel's founding 52 years ago, has blocked
highways and closed schools, paralyzing large parts of northern Israel.

With the Israelis blasting away with heavy weapons, such as rockets launched
from helicopters, and with the Palestinians routinely firing automatic
rifles, the intensity of the fighting sometimes resembles a war and has
surpassed levels seen during the 1987-93 Palestinian uprising and three days
of firefights in 1996.

"I have been dealing with such riots since 1987 and ... there has never been
anything on this level -- not when it comes to clashes and certainly not
when it comes to the use of weapons," said Yisrael Yitzhak, commander of
Israel's paramilitary border police in the West Bank.

The heaviest clashes Tuesday were again in the chaotic West Bank and Gaza
Strip, where a hastily arranged cease-fire quickly unraveled at a pair of
chronic trouble spots.

Palestinian television broadcast an appeal in Hebrew to Israeli soldiers not
to open fire, and a senior Palestinian official said an international
inquiry into Israel's actions would be a condition of reviving the peace
talks.

"We think that the Israeli crimes committed against our people attacked the
heart of the peace process," said Nabil Abourdeneh, a top aide to Arafat.
But Barak's office said he "totally rejected the call for an international
investigation."

At one point late Tuesday, the Paris talks were almost called off, after
Palestinian negotiator Nabil Shaath reportedly said Arafat had no intention
of meeting with Barak in Paris. Barak informed the Americans that in this
case, he would not go to Paris, the prime minister's office said.

The prime minister only relented after he was informed by U.S. mediators
that Arafat was ready to see Barak, the statement said. Arafat spokesman
Nabil Abourdeneh has said that for now the Palestinian leader only planned
to meet separately with Albright, but that a three-way session --
Arafat-Barak-Albright -- was possible.

Israeli troops, backed by a helicopter gunship, traded gunfire with
Palestinians at an army outpost near the remote Jewish settlement of
Netzarim in the Gaza Strip, part of an on-and-off battle that's been running
for days.

Palestinian rock throwers dropped face-down in the streets, seeking cover
amid sustained blasts of automatic rifle fire. Shortly afterward, wailing
ambulances arrived to take away the casualties.

One man's head was mutilated by an Israeli rocket, and his fellow
Palestinians picked up parts of his brain and waved their bloodstained hands
in the air.

In the West Bank town of Nablus, besieged Israeli forces also called in
helicopter fire to drive back Palestinians shooting on the tiny Israeli
enclave of Joseph's Tomb.

After an emotional funeral for a 15-year-old Palestinian boy, Palestinians
headed directly to the Israeli outpost. Several gunmen dashed to the edge of
the compound and raised their rifles to shoot over the stone wall
surrounding the tomb.

Youths relied on black smoke from burning tires to provide cover as they
darted toward the wall and hurled firebombs toward the tomb, believed by
some to hold the remains of the biblical patriarch.

Elsewhere, stone-throwing youths confronted Israeli soldiers in cities and
towns throughout the Palestinian areas. The main streets in Bethlehem and
Hebron were carpeted with thousands of rocks. The Israelis responded with
rubber-coated steel bullets and stun grenades in most instances.

Palestinian television broadcast an appeal in Hebrew to Israeli soldiers not
to open fire, and a senior Palestinian official said an international
inquiry into Israel's actions would be a condition of reviving the peace
talks.

"We think that the Israeli crimes 

Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?

2000-10-03 Thread Mark McHugh

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nessie wrote:


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 The OTO was for all intents and purposes defunct until a high level
 military
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 Who?


Perhaps he's speaking of LTC Michael A. Aquino, the Temple of Set
mastermind.

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[CTRL] Old allies India, Russia move to strengthen ties

2000-10-03 Thread Amelia

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By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV
The Associated Press
10/3/00 8:15 PM


NEW DELHI, India (AP) -- Reaching out to bolster ties with an old ally,
Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a pact with India on Tuesday and
hailed the nation as Moscow's key strategic partner in terms that evoked
their Soviet-era friendship.

"The traditional partnership between India and Russia has been tested by
time and is the most important stabilizing factor, not only for the Asian
region, but for the whole world," Putin said after he and Indian Prime
Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee signed a Declaration on Strategic Partnership.

The far-reaching document signals Moscow's attempt to reinvigorate relations
with India, which slackened after the 1991 Soviet collapse.

Although India has remained a leading customer of Russian weapons
industries, other trade has shrunk. New Delhi has also developed its ties
with the United States, ending decades of distrust and tension.

While Putin has said Russia welcomes the warming between Washington and New
Delhi, his three-day visit clearly reflects Moscow's concern about its
traditional ally being drawn away.

The only field where bilateral cooperation has never waned -- military
ties -- is to receive a boost during the visit. On Tuesday, negotiators from
the two countries were finalizing an agreement on sales of hundreds of
Russian tanks and dozens of fighter jets to India. The deal was to be ready
before Putin leaves New Delhi on Wednesday.

In the declaration signed Tuesday, the two countries pledged to avoid an
alliance or conflict directed at one another. They also promised that
neither would join any alliance or sign any agreement that would infringe on
the other's territorial integrity, sovereignty or national security
interests.

By accepting the formula, Moscow seemed to strengthen India's hand in its
long-running border disputes with Pakistan and China.

Pakistan, which has fought two wars with India over Jammu and Kashmir,
claims the region in its entirety. The Kremlin has recently tried to
establish contacts with Pakistan after decades of hostility, stoking fears
in India.

Vajpayee said Putin's visit "provides a major impetus in our relations at
the beginning of the new millennium."

Putin said India and Russia share the same views on global issues, including
the need to preserve the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty that Washington
wants to modify. He promised to support India's bid for a permanent seat on
the U.N. Security Council, saying it is a "strong and fitting contender."


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[CTRL] Man killed in Red Cross ambulance as Colombian fighting continues

2000-10-03 Thread Amelia

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Man killed in Red Cross ambulance as Colombian fighting continues

By SCOTT DALTON
The Associated Press
10/3/00 6:57 PM


PUERTO ASIS, Colombia (AP) -- Guerrillas killed a wounded rival inside a Red
Cross ambulance, the aid group said Tuesday -- the latest death in a
no-holds-barred battle between leftist rebels and right-wing paramilitaries
for control of a cocaine-producing Colombian region.

Days of fighting have paralyzed the region in Putamayo state, an area near
Colombia's border with Ecuador. Government forces have a scant presence
here, but U.S.-trained Colombian troops backed by U.S.-supplied combat
helicopters are expected to enter in force within months.

The combatants in the region are the leftist Revolutionary Armed Forces of
Colombia, or FARC, and the right-wing United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia
paramilitary group, or AUC. The fighting erupted Sept. 21. It has sent
frightened civilians fleeing toward Ecuador, caused food and fuel supplies
to dwindle and cut off the state by road from the rest of Colombia.

With wounded fighters now being executed while in Red Cross care, the South
American country's 36-year civil conflict appears to be entering an even
more vicious and uncontrolled phase.

The killing of the AUC member inside the ambulance came Monday, 10 days
after paramilitaries executed a wounded female rebel who was also being
transported by the Red Cross.

According to the Red Cross staff in Bogota, the wounded AUC fighter was
being evacuated from the Putumayo town of La Hormiga when FARC rebels
stopped the Red Cross ambulance, opened its door and shot him.

"They told our official that it wasn't an action against the Red Cross, but
rather against the AUC," said a Red Cross official who asked not to be
named.

In a statement from Geneva, the International Committee of the Red Cross
announced it had suspended all medical evacuations in Colombia until
"reliable guarantees are obtained from all parties to the conflict."

As fighting continued, government troops were patrolling Puerto Asis, a town
in the heart of the coca-growing region. But most of the fighting was
occurring in rural areas, military sources said.

Also Tuesday, police reported that paramilitary fighters killed nine unarmed
people, including five members of one family, in Vijes, a town in western
Cauca State. The killings Monday appeared to be the work of the AUC,
National Police operations chief Gen. Alfonso Arellano told The Associated
Press.


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Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?

2000-10-03 Thread nessie

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

Perhaps he's speaking of LTC Michael A. Aquino, the Temple of Set
mastermind.

The Temple of Set and the OTO are different as the Southern Baptist
Convention and  the Nation of Islam. The SBC and the NOE are both
organazations of monotheists. The even worship the same god. But they are
hardly the same thing and few people would confuse them. The Temple of Set
does indeed seem to be a creature of Army Intelligence. The OTO is nothing
but a bohemian social club. Their main interests are getting high and
getting laid. I've seen this personally. I used to play in a band. The OTO
hired us for a couple parties. They REALLY  know how to party. But they're
no threat to anybody. The Temple of Set is quite another matter.

Perhaps he was was referring instead to Grady McMurtry. Or perhaps not.
Perhaps he should answer my question himself.

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[CTRL] More new audio up at www.cia-drugs.org

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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Four more realaudio files from the LA Symposium are now up at cia-drugs.org.

More later . . . as I get complete files.

Om
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Re: [CTRL] Robot vs. Reptilian

2000-10-03 Thread Steve Wingate

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Robot wins.

Robot even adapted to more human-like movements of his head an facial
muscles near the end.

Steve


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Re: [CTRL] Robot vs. Reptilian

2000-10-03 Thread Steve Wingate

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Bush's cocaine habit was apparent. Sniff, sniff. ;-0

"Robot_vs_Reptilian:  Bush gets cocaine from his CIA dad."

(Last comment logged on CNN's chat room before moderated chat began.
;-)  I am lucky sometimes. Hehe.

Steve

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Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?

2000-10-03 Thread tenebroust

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I'd say that Samantha summed it up pretty well here.  It is taken as given that the 
two are intertwined, and what has it gotten anyone?  There is never any evidence to 
present only peoples testimony that something did occur.  It could be all a bunch of 
mis-perceptions, hoaxes, and fraud, as well as signs of mental illness.  There 
undoubtedly is much of all that involved somewhere but I still think there is a lot of 
truth to the relayed memories.
There are many connections between the occult and the Intel.  There is a desire for 
control of radical movements and fringe belief systems which could potentially be 
threats to the country and which means that groups are infiltrated and controlled.  
There is a desire to study controlling systems in order to effectively use these same 
systems for their own mind control efforts.  There are others but these two examples 
should be enough to indicate why the Intel. world would almost HAVE TO be involved.


On Tue, 03 October 2000, "Samantha L." wrote:


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   The anecdotal evidence, from survivor accounts I've come across over the
 years, is that many/most make an intel connection to their ritual abuse
 experiences.  Dr. Bennett Braun documented many such accounts from survivors
 who linked their perps to national senators, CEO's of Fortune 500 companies
 and members of the intelligence community.  He started to give such accounts
 credibility when they fell under the rules of 3, 4 or 5 - when 3 or more
 survivors who didn't know each other named the same prominent person.

   Constantine cites a marriage between intel and satanic cults beginning in
 the early 60's, as a trade-off:  protection of cult members from prosecutions
 in exchange for info on mind-control techniques.  He wrote about this in
 "Psychcic Dictatorship" but his reference for this was only a speech given by
 someone else.  More than one survivor believes the marriage occurred long
 before the early 60's.

   There is no hard evidence that I am aware of - as there rarely is where
 covert ops are concerned.  I take it as a given that there is a profound
 connection between the two, and proceed from there.  But so what?  It hasn't
 helped me get anywhere with it.  If we had full accountability with
 Congressional oversight for each penny spent on covert ops, we might get
 somewhere.  But the inmates are still running the asylum.

 Samantha

 In a message dated 10/3/00 11:19:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
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  Hi -
 
   I'm curious what people think about occult belief systems operating
   within the intelligence community? The famous Aquino/satanism case has
   always interested me, that something so strange and twisted really
   happened. Also, I've often wondered if any of the occult Nazi beliefs
   operating during World War II perhaps bled over to America during
   Paperclip? (After all, didn't Aquino perform some weird satanic rite
   while visiting Germany?)
 
   Aside from the Aquino saga, I've only heard rumors and conspiracy
   theories involving Montauk, mind-control, and maybe Jack Parsons group
   at JPL during the 1960s. Is there any hard evidence that this is
   widespread, or is it the exception to the rule?
 
   thanks

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[CTRL] Lebanese Speaker Calls For Arabs To Sever Ties With Israel

2000-10-03 Thread William Shannon

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Berri urges Arabs to break ties with Israel
Nicole Choueiry
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http://www.dailystar.com.lb/03_10_00/art1.htm
The spate of violence in Israel and the occupied territories prompted Speaker
Nabih Berri on Monday to call on the Arab world to cut its official ties with
the Jewish state and Premier Salim Hoss to urge for an Arab summit.
Berri denounced Israel’s killing of several dozen Palestinians and called on
Arab Parliaments and Shura Councils to condemn Israel’s acts and stress
Jerusalem’s Arab identity.
“I call on Arab governments to sever all diplomatic relations and forms of
normalization with Israel,” Berri said in a statement on Monday.
He said Israel wanted to expel Jerusalem’s Arab residents and do away with
the city’s Muslim and Christian identities.
“Israel’s crimes against Palestinian children, women and elderly civilians
reveal once again the ugliest picture of state terrorism,” he said.
For his part, Hoss said that the television footage of 12-year-old Mohammed
Aldura being killed in his father’s arms must be shown to the world. The
international community must condemn Israel for its crimes against innocent
children, women and elderly, he said.
“This is incontestable proof that Israel deliberately and intentionally
killed Palestinians, and that it’s lying when it says that its soldiers were
firing at armed Palestinians,” Hoss said.
“Two shameful things can’t be forgiven: the shame of killing women and that
of killing children. Israel is drowning in both,” he added.
Hoss said the events required an Arab stand of solidarity, adding that it
would be appropriate to call for an Arab summit.
The president of the Higher Shiite Council, Sheikh Mohammed Mehdi
Shamseddine, called on Palestinians to continue their armed struggle against
Israel, saying the struggle was one of the main ways for Arabs to retain
their dignity.
Shamseddine appealed to all Arabs to help Palestinians protect Jerusalem and
restore their legitimate rights in their country.
He also urged the media to expose Israeli crimes.
Hizbullah offered its services to Palestinians on Monday, saying the party
was “devoted and ready to stand by its side.
“We’re confident that our liberation of Lebanese territories was the first
step and the best example to expel Israelis from all occupied territories to
complete the plan of liberation,” a statement from the group said.
“These clashes mean that the conflict with this enemy will not stop ... and
indicate that the only style that will restore the stolen dignity and rights
is that of the resistance and jihad,” it added.
The party condemned “the international community’s suspicious silence”
toward what was happening and US attempts “to treat the criminal and the
victim the same way.”
“We call on the international community and its organizations to stand by the
rights, dignity and freedom of people in Palestine,” the statement said.
Also condemning the violence were Grand Mufti Sheikh Mohammed Rashid Qabbani,
Sayyed Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, the Arab Journalists’ Union, the Baath and
Syrian Social Nationalist parties, and other parties and organizations.


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Israeli Snipers Target Civilians and MedicalWorkers

2000-10-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote:

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 In a message dated 10/01/2000 1:22:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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  Palestinian deaths
  and injuries continue to mount as Israeli forces fire live high-velocity
  ammunition, rubber-coated steel bullets, and tear gas indiscriminately into
  crowds of protesters. 

 So what's new?  Israeli forces have been firing live high-velocity ammunition
 and killing Palestinians for years.  Normally no one takes photos or counts.
 And probably most of the ammo is purchased with money from the US, either
 donations from American Jews or donations from the American government.  Who
 out there is surprised by this?  The Israeli have made it  their mission to
 subjugate, terrorize, make miserable and eliminate as many Palestinians as
 possible as soon as possible.  Why is everybody fussing now?   The Nazi
 failed in their attempt to exterminate the Jews, but obviously they succeeded
 in demonstrating to them the various techniques that can be utilized in such
 a program.  It's been going on for years.  I just can't understand what all
 the hallabaloo is about now.  Prudy



In case all you morally outraged humanitarians haven't noticed, some of the
innocent civilians being shot at by the Israelis are wearing uniforms, they are US
trained Palestinian "Police." The " civilians " are Fatah Tanzim who are armed
militias directly under the orders of none other than Yassir Arafat. They are
all toting automatic weapons and some have rockets. While the TV cameras are
pointed at the stone throwers, the others are in fire fights with the Israeli
Forces.

The Israelis have been remarkably restrained considering that the Jerusalem
Arabs started a violent riot because they don't like a certain Israeli figure.
Why you people think this was OK is beyond me. What if Blacks started a riot
everywhere David Duke went. What if Whites started a riot everywhere Calypso
Louis Farakahn went.

This is a political statement Orchestrated by Mr. Arafat who understands that
martyrs make
for great TV. The Palestinian media called out the genuine civilians. In the
old days in Lebanon, Yassir had his terrorist groups living among the civilian
population to protect them from Israeli planes. It didn't work.
   -
* The PA played an integral role in the planning and implementation of
attacks.

* The PA played a key role in encouraging attacks via PA controlled media.

* PA security forces along with Fatah movement militia are the main attack
force in the field.

LAW:14 Dead on the Fourth Day (+ IMRA note)

[IMRA: LAW has a unique definition of "protesters" - its own list below
includes "a member of Palestinian intelligence" and two identified as
members "of national security forces".  No doubt others are Fatah Tanzim
(Fatah forces).  They also identify as "civilian buildings" "National
Security Forces building".  LAW and others have attempted to give the
impression the IDF is determined to kill Palestinians.  Given that by LAW's
own count, the IDF has so far killed 41 Palestinian since Friday, it is
clear that killing Palestinians is not the goal of the IDF.  The IDF may not
be as efficient as Arab armies at killing Arabs if it sets its mind to it -
but certainly the helicopter gunships mentioned by LAW could have yielded
triple digit body counts if that was the purpose of the exercise.]
  --
Do you understand the last sentence? Why don't you read it again? The IDF had
armor and helicopters in the area all the time. If they wanted to masacre Arabs,
there would be far more than 50 dead.

It would be a good idea to understand what's going on here before you shoot
your mouths off. It's an extremely dangerous situation. Arafat is gambling
with everyone's lives in the Mid East.

Joshua2

LAW:14 Dead on the Fourth Day

For the fourth consecutive day the IDF opened fire on Palestinians
protesters with rubber coated steel bullets, plastic bullets and live
ammunition. As of 8 pm local time 14 Palestinians, 7 inside Israel, 2 in
Gaza and 5 in the West Bank were killed. So far, 41 Palestinians have been
killed.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Israeli Snipers Target Civilians and MedicalWorkers

2000-10-03 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 10/3/00 10:46:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
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 In case all you morally outraged humanitarians haven't noticed, some of the
 innocent civilians being shot at by the Israelis are wearing uniforms, 


These two
weren't-http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_952000/95270
0.stm

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Re: [CTRL] Above Top Secret Newsletter #28

2000-10-03 Thread nexusmagazine

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Opening The Lost Tombs... The Enterprise Discovery

Fox's world-wide Egyptian television Special - "Opening the Lost Tombs:
Live from Egypt" - was broadcast live from Egypt's Giza Plateau, March
2nd. The program included a major segment featuring Richard C. Hoagland,
Principal Investigator of the Enterprise Mission; Hoagland presented
compelling graphical evidence, never before seen on network television,
strongly hinting at a prior a "high-tech" civilization period prior to the
known Egyptian civilization.

Hoagland's evidence consisted of enigmatic glyphs discovered carved into
the ceiling beams of a 3000-year old New Kingdom Temple, located several
hundred miles south of Cairo and the Giza Plateau, at Abydos. The glyphs,
perched high under the several hundred ton roof of the temple itself,
depict astonishingly-modern-looking flying machines ... completely
impossible under any current archaeological views of ancient Egypt!

Hoagland's Abydos discovery was verified in November 1998 by a Fox
television crew's own several hundred mile trek to the SETI-I temple at
Abydos, and actual filming of the glyphs in place within the temple. The
find is nothing less than astonishing support for the controversial
sub-text of the March 2nd Fox Egyptian telecast: that we are not the
first. That a prior, "high-tech epoch" to civilization somehow came before
the now known Ancient Egyptian Civilization... which attempted to
memorialize momentos of that ancient, now forgotten period in a temple
built thousands of years after its predecessor's mysterious disappearance.

Let's get this right - Hoagland did NOT discover the Abydos glyphs.  They
have been photographed, discussed and circulated for many many years
prior to Hoagland jumping all over them.  I wonder why he chooses not to
correct this myth?

regards

Duncan


Duncan M. Roads
Editor, NEXUS Magazine
PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia
Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280;   Fax:  +61 (0)7 5442 9381
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[CTRL] New Holocaust suit URL

2000-10-03 Thread nessie

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http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/Swissinfo.html?siteSect=105sid=21305

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[CTRL] Fwd: Aquino v. Electriciti Decision

2000-10-03 Thread Kris Millegan





http://phillipsnizer.com/int-art50.htm

Defamation/CDA
By Martin H. Samson


Aquino v. Electriciti Inc., 26 Med. L. Rptr. 1032
(Cal. Superior Crt., San Francisco City and County, Sept. 23, 1997)

In this case, the Court, following Zeran v. America Online, Inc., 958 F.
Supp. 1124 held that the Communications Decency Act preempts state law
claims against defendant ISP for negligence, breach of contract, intentional
infliction of emotional distress, alter ego liability, injunctive relief and
violation of civil rights arising from IPS's distribution of material
written by another that contained derogatory comments about plaintiffs,
including that they were the "ring leaders" of an "international conspiracy"
to further "Satanic Ritual Abuse" of children. Said the court:
Plaintiffs' causes of action are preempted by Section 230 of the
Communication Decency Act of 1996 and Zeran v. America Online, Inc., 958 F.
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Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?

2000-10-03 Thread O110100110

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This may not seem to be relivant at first to the topic, but while reading
about the comments on the intel. and 500 club, it sparked a curiosity i had
long forgotten about.

A few years ago, something came across my desk about a group of men,(I
believe no women, as none were mentioned..) who met annually around the
nation (US) under the guise of a financial meetings. And was rumored to have
specific meetings constructed for religious and social
engineering/organizing, and or recruiting.
I specifically remember that this group was not masonic in origin, but im
sure had memebers.

 Around a few hundred or so met for the meetings. About 7-10 years ago while
I was in Orlando, Fl., the group met at the Tupperware World Convention
Centre.

Seeing as how i disreguarded the info years ago, now I am curious if anyone
has any
information that can shed light on to this topic, who these people might have
been and or what their purpose was/is today.

thanks in advance for the time and consideration-
Dante

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Re: [CTRL] Occult within covert groups?

2000-10-03 Thread nessie

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[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:

There are many connections between the occult and the Intel.


Talking about "the occult" is like talking about religion or business.
It's simply too broad a term to be meaningful.





 He started to give such accounts

credibility when they fell under the rules of 3, 4 or 5 - when 3 or more

survivors who didn't know each other named the same prominent person.


If they'd named the same obscure person it might be worth investigating.
Images of celebrities, however, are present in everyone's subconscious.

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[CTRL] Something has an odd odor ...

2000-10-03 Thread Alamaine

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From
http://my.aol.com/news/story.tmpl?table=ncat=01id=0009290844332269

 News
 NATO would stop spread of any Yugoslav violence

 Reuters
 Sep 29 2000 8:43AM ET

 BUCHAREST (Reuters) - NATO would stop any violence in Yugoslavia from spreading
 to Bosnia or Kosovo but would not intervene if civil war erupted in the
 aftermath of contested elections, a NATO official said Friday. ``NATO is not
 involved and does not intend to be involved in a possible civil war in Serbia,
 which we all hope will not take place,'' Klaus-Peter Klaiber, NATO's assistant
 secretary-general for political affairs, told reporters in Bucharest.

Now, NEATO doesn't involve itself in civil wars in Yugoslavia ... hmmm ... I
wonder what Sec'y Gen'l Altzeimer would have to say about this ... or is this a
hint to having learned a little more about the Balkanians since Bill jeff spent
the weekend before the bombing reading up on the area?



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The libertarian therefore considers one of his prime educational
tasks is to spread the demystification and desanctification of the
State among its hapless subjects.  His task is to demonstrate
repeatedly and in depth that not only the emperor but even the
"democratic" State has no clothes; that all governments subsist
by exploitive rule over the public; and that such rule is the reverse
of objective necessity.  He strives to show that the existence of
taxation and the State necessarily sets up a class division between
the exploiting rulers and the exploited ruled.  He seeks to show that
the task of the court intellectuals who have always supported the State
has ever been to weave mystification in order to induce the public to
accept State rule and that these intellectuals obtain, in return, a
share in the power and pelf extracted by the rulers from their deluded
subjects.
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