Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-25 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le dimanche 25 février 2024, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit... > Néanmoins, il me reste un espace non utilisé en fin de disque. > Quand j'aurai un moment, je rajouterai quelques giga sur / afin de ne plus > me retrouver en difficulté par manque d'espace. Je ne sais pas si

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-25 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Bonjour Désolé pour ce retour tardif. Je vous confirme que tout est OK, mon système fonctionne normalement et je n'ai pour l'heure rencontré aucun probleme. Oui effectivement, les partitions sont complètement entremêlées et réparties sur 3 partitions. sda1 qui contient / sda2 qui contient sda5

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-21 Thread David Wright
m. I've never used btrfs filesystem df Would it matter if you're not running your filesystem close to full? Cheers, David.

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-21 Thread David Wright
On Mon 19 Feb 2024 at 10:26:05 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > > Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > > > Yes the / partitions are btrfs > > > > > > So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 21, 2024 at 12:21:05PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 21/2/24 10:47, Felix Miata wrote: > > I didn't think so, which begs the question why OP Keith is using it. :p > > -- > > I read somewhere about 2 years ago, that it automagically de-duped data > when it detected I was

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 21/2/24 10:47, Felix Miata wrote: I didn't think so, which begs the question why OP Keith is using it. :p -- I read somewhere about 2 years ago, that it automagically de-duped data when it detected I was copying the same file to different directories. It's not deliberate, but I have

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Felix Miata
Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-21 11:57 (UTC+1100): > Felix Miata wrote: >> A current thread from elsewhere that should be helpful: >> <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/btrfs-disk-full-how-to-fix-it-is-that- >> really-the-solution/172576> >> btrfs f

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 21/2/24 11:38, Felix Miata wrote: A current thread from elsewhere that should be helpful: <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/btrfs-disk-full-how-to-fix-it-is-that- really-the-solution/172576> btrfs filesystem usage / snapper list btrfs qgroup show /

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Felix Miata
at should be helpful: <https://forums.opensuse.org/t/btrfs-disk-full-how-to-fix-it-is-that-really-the-solution/172576> btrfs filesystem usage / snapper list btrfs qgroup show / Was requested by a btrfs expert. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like relig

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Felix Miata
Greg Wooledge composed on 2024-02-20 14:56 (UTC-0500): > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:47:26PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Surely somewhere on debian.org such things must be addressed if Bookworm's >> default >> has also been changed to btrfs. > That has not happened. The default file system is

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:47:26PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Surely somewhere on debian.org such things must be addressed if Bookworm's > default > has also been changed to btrfs. That has not happened. The default file system is still ext4.

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Felix Miata
to...@tuxteam.de composed on 2024-02-20 09:38 (UTC+0100): > On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:42:18AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: >> Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): >> > I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in used >> > space reported by df >> df

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread debian-user
Felix Miata wrote: > Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): > > > I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in > > used space reported by df > > df doesn't know how to calculate freespace on btrfs. You need to be > typing > > btrfs filesystem df

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > when cfdisk reports: > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > /dev/sda2 1785522176 1786245119 722944 353M EFI System > /dev/sda3 1786245120 1933045759 146800640 70G EFI System > I don't understand the 'EFI System' note /dev/sda3 is / The partition type

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 09:21:15PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > On 20/2/24 19:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Tomas, the upgrade failure was earlier than these notes. It has now worked I see. > Sorry, but I don't know how to assess the snapshot space usage. Nor do I -- my question

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 20/2/24 19:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:42:18AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in used space reported by df df doesn't know how to calculate

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 20/2/24 18:42, Felix Miata wrote: btrfs filesystem df OK, so please interpret: >> btrfs filesystem df -h / Data, single: total=32.80GiB, used=31.94GiB System, DUP: total=8.00MiB, used=16.00KiB Metadata, DUP: total=1.50GiB, used=1.10GiB GlobalReserve, single: total=71.69MiB, used=0.00B

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-20 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:42:18AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): > > > I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in used > > space reported by df > > df doesn't know how to calculate freespace on btrfs. You need to be

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-19 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 20/2/24 18:11, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 19/2/24 14:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 19/2/24 10:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-19 Thread Felix Miata
Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-20 17:45 (UTC+1100): > I just removed 3 snapshots from my daily driver with no change in used > space reported by df df doesn't know how to calculate freespace on btrfs. You need to be typing btrfs filesystem df if you have not aliased df to btrfs

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-19 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 19/2/24 14:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 19/2/24 10:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-19 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 19/2/24 13:00, Max Nikulin wrote: On 19/02/2024 06:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: So later yesterday afternoon I created a new snapshot with no obvious change is free space. Effect of snapshots is delayed. When you remove a file that does not belong to any snapshot, some disk space is

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-19 Thread debian-user
David Christensen wrote: > On 2/18/24 19:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot > > process. > > > Perhaps. But, are you re-balancing your btrfs file systems regularly? > >

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-19 Thread DdB
hot hardlinks ;-) ) Once, some older filesystem state is snapshotted, its space is taken until the snapshot gets destroyed/removed. This can lead to situations, where a device is full, but in order to free some space, deleting files will NOT help, because in order to do so, a change in the directory nee

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-18 Thread David Christensen
On 2/18/24 19:20, Keith Bainbridge wrote: I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot process. Perhaps. But, are you re-balancing your btrfs file systems regularly? https://manpages.debian.org/bookworm/btrfs-progs/btrfs-balance.8.en.html Doing it by hand was not

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-18 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 02:20:20PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: [...] > I am convinced that the missing space is used by btrfs snapshot process. But > WHY is the used space reporting on my daily driver LESS than that on the > spare machine 29G vs 35G? The original install was the same .iso

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-18 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 19/2/24 10:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Seems to be the

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-18 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 19/2/24 13:41, Felix Miata wrote: would be some places to start. Didn't you do your https://btrfs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/btrfs-filesystem.html reading yet? ?_? My eyes have glazed over too often, already. I know I have to get back, but that NEED to do it is making it harder. -- All

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-18 Thread Felix Miata
Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-18 14:49 (UTC+1100): > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: >> So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. > Seems to be the prime suspect. While snapshotting is obviously a consumer, until you use the right tool for the job, you

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 19/02/2024 06:26, Keith Bainbridge wrote: So later yesterday afternoon I created a new snapshot with no obvious change is free space. Effect of snapshots is delayed. When you remove a file that does not belong to any snapshot, some disk space is reclaimed. However to restore a file

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-18 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 18/2/24 14:49, Keith Bainbridge wrote: On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Seems to be the prime suspect.   If that's the case, btrfs is

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-18 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 18/2/24 14:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 17/02/2024 09:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: If so, you *could*  have data inside the /home directory of the root file system, which is hidden by the /home file system that's mounted over it.  You'd need to unmount /home to check. A less intrusive way to

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread David Christensen
Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-17 15:44 (UTC+1100): Yes the / partitions are btrfs Several years ago, I installed Debian (9?) using btrfs for root (and boot?). I failed to understand that btrfs required regular maintenance and/or I was too lazy to figure it out and do it. After a

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 18/2/24 09:19, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: I only know to say this because it just happened a few days ago. Rsync left some semi-permanent remnants when I was having problems with the wireless capable hard drive docking station repeatedly cutting out. I was offloading videos and images from a

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 18/2/24 07:34, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Keith Bainbridge wrote: Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Seems to be the prime suspect. If that's the case, btrfs is NOT hard-linking the snapshots as

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/02/2024 09:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: If so, you *could* have data inside the /home directory of the root file system, which is hidden by the /home file system that's mounted over it. You'd need to unmount /home to check. A less intrusive way to inspect shadowed directories is bind

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-17 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 17 février 2024 Alban Vidal a écrit : > Pour éviter des soucis d'espace disque à l'avenir, je pense qu'il serait > judicieux de redimensionner un peu les partitions, en en retirant un peu dans > le /opt ou /home pour en mettre un peu plus sur la racine (/), 2 ou 3G par > exemple. Je pense que

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 2/17/24, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 04:00:14PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> > So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. >> >> Another possibility is a (few) large file(s) that is/are still open for >> some process(es) but have been `rm`

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 04:00:14PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. > > Another possibility is a (few) large file(s) that is/are still open for > some process(es) but have been `rm` (`unlink`) so they don't have a name > any

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread Stefan Monnier
> So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots. Another possibility is a (few) large file(s) that is/are still open for some process(es) but have been `rm` (`unlink`) so they don't have a name any more. Stefan

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread debian-user
Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Yes the / partitions are btrfs So the apparently missing space is perhaps taken up by btrfs snapshots.

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-17 Thread Alban Vidal
, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : >Re bonjour > >Je viens d'exécuter le apt full-upgrade. >Je pensais que ça allait prendre un peu de temps mais ça a été rapide, tous >les paquets étaient déjà à jour :) > >J'ai redémarré et tout semble fonctionner. >J'ai effectué quelques

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-17 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Re bonjour Je viens d'exécuter le apt full-upgrade. Je pensais que ça allait prendre un peu de temps mais ça a été rapide, tous les paquets étaient déjà à jour :) J'ai redémarré et tout semble fonctionner. J'ai effectué quelques mises a jour et preparé l'upgrade a la version suivante comme

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-17 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
l, qui semble s'être déroulé > > sans incident. > > > > - J'ai RE-exécuté apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs qui m'a listé les > paquets > > qui ne sont plus nécessaires. > > Je les ai retirés avec apt autoremove comme le conseille la commande > > précédente. > >

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread songbird
Keith Bainbridge wrote: ... > No nfs mounts any swap partition or swap space? but other than that sharing /home with / is likely your issue and you mention snapshots and backintime and i do recall that needing plenty of space. as for btrfs, i have no clue, i've never touched it.

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-17 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 17/2/24 17:08, Felix Miata wrote: Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-17 15:44 (UTC+1100): Yes the / partitions are btrfs df was not designed for the task you gave it. You need to use btrfs filesystem commands: https://btrfs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/btrfs-filesystem.html

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread tomas
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 03:44:49PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: [...] > df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > udev7.2G 0 7.2G 0% /dev > tmpfs 1.5G 1.9M 1.5G 1% /run > /dev/nvme0n1p2 63G 27G 35G 44% / > tmpfs 7.3G 84M

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread Felix Miata
Keith Bainbridge composed on 2024-02-17 15:44 (UTC+1100): > Yes the / partitions are btrfs df was not designed for the task you gave it. You need to use btrfs filesystem commands: https://btrfs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/btrfs-filesystem.html -- Evolution as taught in public schools

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 09:52:22PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:38:56PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > >> sudo df -h / > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% / > > First off: you don't need sudo for this,

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 17/2/24 13:55, Gremlin wrote: On 2/16/24 21:38, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Good afternoon All I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh' / is reporting full. Trying to locate where I ran sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 / 0    /mnt 181M    /boot 15M    /etc 0    /media 236M

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread Keith Bainbridge
On 17/2/24 13:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:38:56PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: >> sudo df -h / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% / First off: you don't need sudo for this, ever. Second: what kind of file

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread Gremlin
On 2/16/24 21:38, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Good afternoon All I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh' / is reporting full. Trying to locate where I ran sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 / 0    /mnt 181M    /boot 15M    /etc 0    /media 236M    /opt 336K    /root 0    /srv 4.0K

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 01:38:56PM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > >> sudo df -h / > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda336G 35G 100M 100% / First off: you don't need sudo for this, ever. Second: what kind of file system is this? > sudo du -hPx

Re: partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread David Wright
On Sat 17 Feb 2024 at 13:38:56 (+1100), Keith Bainbridge wrote: > I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh' > > / is reporting full. > > Trying to locate where I ran > > sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 / > 0 /mnt > 181M /boot > 15M /etc > 0

partition reporting full, but not

2024-02-16 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Good afternoon All I have just rebooted this laptop to ensure it is 'fresh' / is reporting full. Trying to locate where I ran sudo du -hPx --max-depth=1 / 0 /mnt 181M/boot 15M /etc 0 /media 236M/opt 336K/root 0 /srv 4.0K/tmp 8.1G/usr 726M/var 9.2G

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-16 Thread Gilles Mocellin
s'être déroulé > sans incident. > > - J'ai RE-exécuté apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs qui m'a listé les paquets > qui ne sont plus nécessaires. > Je les ai retirés avec apt autoremove comme le conseille la commande > précédente. > > Jusque là, tout semble OK :) En effet ! >

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-16 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
la commande précédente. Jusque là, tout semble OK :) Normalement afin de finir mon upgrade il ne manque plus que le apt full-upgrade à exécuter. Je me suis arrêté là pour l'instant, par manque de temps pour aller plus loin Je n'ai pas encore éteint (ou rebooter) la machine. Est ce que mon oubli

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-15 Thread Gilles Mocellin
la place, il faut > que je relance la commande apt full-upgrade > Mais avant cela, je dois killer le pid de apt et faire un dpkg-reconfigure. > > Pour trouver le pid d'apt, c'est à l'aide de la commande ps? > Et apres kill "n° de pid" > > Est ce qu'il y a autre

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-13 Thread zithro
d'apt - killall -9 "PID d'apt" - dpkg-reconfigure - apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs (=> Cette commande met à niveau les paquets qui peuvent l'être sans entraîner l'installation ou la suppression d'autres paquets. ) - apt full-upgrade Ça vous semble correct ? Oui ça devrait aller,

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-13 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
t-new-pkgs (=> Cette commande met à niveau les paquets qui peuvent l'être sans entraîner l'installation ou la suppression d'autres paquets. ) - apt full-upgrade Ça vous semble correct ? Très cordialement Hugues Le mar. 13 févr. 2024 à 09:34, Michel Verdier a écrit : > Le 12 février 2

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-13 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 12 février 2024 Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > Avec le recul, aujourd'hui, je ne ferai que des partitions pour /home, /var > et /opt. /home et /opt il faut voir selon tes applis. Mais si /var est saturé ça bloque tout le système à cause des logs qui ne peuvent plus se faire. > Est ce que

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
t; comment faire en pratique. > > > > Donc si je comprends bien, maintenant que j'ai fait de la place, il faut > > que je relance la commande apt full-upgrade > > Mais avant cela, je dois killer le pid de apt et faire un dpkg-reconfigure. > > > > Pour trouver

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread zithro
On 12 Feb 2024 08:00, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE wrote: Bonjour a tous Je reviens vers vous car je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre pour réparer un crash lors d'un apt full-upgrade lors d'un passage de Stretch a Bullseye. Ca fonctionne peut-être, mais ce n'est pas la manière recommandée

Re : Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread nicolas . patrois
On 12/02/2024 19:23:39, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE wrote: > Pour trouver le pid d'apt, c'est à l'aide de la commande ps? > Et apres kill "n° de pid" > Est ce qu'il y a autre chose a faire pour killer le processus d'apt? Tu peux tuer un processus en utilisant son nom avec la commande killall, qui

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Salut Merci pour l'info Malheureusement même si j'entrevois de quoi tu parles, je ne sais pas trop comment faire en pratique. Donc si je comprends bien, maintenant que j'ai fait de la place, il faut que je relance la commande apt full-upgrade Mais avant cela, je dois killer le pid de apt et

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Salut C'est un système qui à l'origine avait été installé en Wheezy ou Jessie et que j'ai upgradé. Je n'avais pas autant de connaissance que maintenant et il m'avait semblé plus judicieux de faire une partition par montage. Je me disais que ca serait surement plus simple de restaurer le système

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 12 février 2024 Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : > J'ai effectivement vu ce message mais je n'en avais pas compris la raison. > Néanmoins, au vue de df -TPh, je m’aperçois que ma partition racine et > /boot son bien "chargées". > Est ce que le problème pourrait provenir de la? Le message

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-12 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
rdialement, > Alban > > > Le 12 février 2024 08:00:00 GMT+01:00, Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE < > mor...@gmail.com> a écrit : > >> Bonjour a tous >> >> >> Je reviens vers vous car je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre pour réparer >> un crash lors d'

Re: Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-11 Thread Alban Vidal
gues MORIN-TRENEULE a écrit : >Bonjour a tous > > >Je reviens vers vous car je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre pour réparer un >crash lors d'un apt full-upgrade lors d'un passage de Stretch a Bullseye. > >Il y a quelques temps vos conseils et explications mon permis de de mettre

Stretch vers Bullseye - Probleme lors du apt full-upgrade

2024-02-11 Thread Hugues MORIN-TRENEULE
Bonjour a tous Je reviens vers vous car je ne sais pas comment m'y prendre pour réparer un crash lors d'un apt full-upgrade lors d'un passage de Stretch a Bullseye. Il y a quelques temps vos conseils et explications mon permis de de mettre a jours mon Stretch afin de le préparer à l'upgrade

Re: apt full-upgrade failed at marco-common package

2024-01-30 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 1/30/24 1:43 PM, Michael Kjörling wrote: https://www.debian.org/releases/bullseye/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#file-conflicts should help. Sure. Thanks!

Re: apt full-upgrade failed at marco-common package

2024-01-30 Thread Miroslav Skoric
-themes-more (possibly with apt, possibly directly with dpkg), then try the '--fix-broken' step again. Assuming that works, I'd then follow it up by repeating the full-upgrade step just to make sure, and then after that - if I really wanted gnome-themes-more - try to reinstall it (preferably using

Re: apt full-upgrade failed at marco-common package

2024-01-30 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 1/30/24 1:41 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: Unpacking marco-common (1.24.1-3) over (1.20.3-1) ... .[1mdpkg:.[0m error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-S65GMD/8-marco-common_1.24.1-3_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite

Re: apt full-upgrade failed at marco-common package

2024-01-30 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 30 Jan 2024 13:19 +0100, from sko...@uns.ac.rs (Miroslav Skoric): > Preparing to unpack .../8-marco-common_1.24.1-3_all.deb ... > Unpacking marco-common (1.24.1-3) over (1.20.3-1) ... > .[1mdpkg:.[0m error processing archive > /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-S65GMD/8-marco-common_1.24.1-3_all.deb

Re: apt full-upgrade failed at marco-common package

2024-01-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 01:19:09PM +0100, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > Unpacking marco-common (1.24.1-3) over (1.20.3-1) ... > .[1mdpkg:.[0m error processing archive > /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-S65GMD/8-marco-common_1.24.1-3_all.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite >

Re: apt full-upgrade failed at marco-common package

2024-01-30 Thread The Wanderer
nimal system upgrade" (# apt upgrade --without-new-pkgs). That > part performed without any issue, and cat /etc/debian_version reported > 11.8 (previously it was 10.x). > > "4.4.5 Upgrading the system" (# apt full-upgrade) ran also fine until > some 20% or so, and then

apt full-upgrade failed at marco-common package

2024-01-30 Thread Miroslav Skoric
t any issue, and cat /etc/debian_version reported 11.8 (previously it was 10.x). "4.4.5 Upgrading the system" (# apt full-upgrade) ran also fine until some 20% or so, and then failed when handled marco-common package. Here are the few last lines of that session: ... Preparing to unp

Re: Linuxcnc now in Debian as a full package

2023-12-05 Thread gene heskett
On 12/5/23 03:54, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Just a heads up for Gene: for when you upgrade one of your machines (or replace disks). Linuxcnc is now a full package in Debian at least on amd64 (and possibly on arm64). It pulls in large amounts of dependencies, so I didn't install it myself but apt

Linuxcnc now in Debian as a full package

2023-12-05 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Just a heads up for Gene: for when you upgrade one of your machines (or replace disks). Linuxcnc is now a full package in Debian at least on amd64 (and possibly on arm64). It pulls in large amounts of dependencies, so I didn't install it myself but apt-cache show linuxcnc should give you

Re: Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread Marco M.
Am 23.10.2023 um 12:04:35 Uhr schrieb Michael Kjörling: > Encrypted /boot has been supported with GRUB 2 for a while. That > leaves only a minimal portion of GRUB in plaintext on storage. Although it is not default, so users should be aware that they need to do additional steps to encrypt /boot.

Re: Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 23 Oct 2023 13:59 +0200, from m...@dorfdsl.de (Marco M.): > Be aware that the boot loader and the /boot aren't encrypted by default > and they can be attacked (e.g. simply place a tainted kernel inside) by > anybody who has access to the harddisk. Encrypted /boot has been supported with GRUB 2

Re: Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread Marco M.
Am 23.10.2023 um 12:53:14 Uhr schrieb lester29: > 1. Does an encryption key on the USB protect against rubber-hose > cryptanalysis? No, the LUKS headers are viewable. You need another layer around that supports hidden containers. > 2. Is it true that key on pendrive is more risky than

Re: Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 23 Oct 2023 12:53 +0200, from leste...@gazeta.pl (lester29): > 1. Does an encryption key on the USB protect against rubber-hose > cryptanalysis? I don't see how it would. Presumably you would have access to it; therefore that access could potentially be exploited through coercion or torture.

Full disk-encryption question

2023-10-23 Thread lester29
Hi I need to set up full disk encryption of the linux in my laptop. Questions: 1. Does an encryption key on the USB protect against rubber-hose cryptanalysis? 2. Is it true that key on pendrive is more risky than password because someone can steal the usb key and access data without the need

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Oct 2023 at 11:51:35 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: > Op 20-10-2023 om 05:10 schreef David Wright: > > On Thu 19 Oct 2023 at 13:30:53 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: > > > I don't intend to send mail from this machine myself, I want mail from > > > the system (e.g. unattended-upgrades)

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-20 Thread Gertjan Klein
Op 19-10-2023 om 21:50 schreef Greg Wooledge: Once the spam stops coming from your system, then you can try to get your IP address removed from all of the DNS spammer lists. Usually there's a web form you can fill out. Or the listing may expire after a while. I've seen many postings over the

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-20 Thread Gertjan Klein
Op 20-10-2023 om 05:10 schreef David Wright: On Thu 19 Oct 2023 at 13:30:53 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: I don't intend to send mail from this machine myself, I want mail from the system (e.g. unattended-upgrades) delivered to my personal mailbox. I wouldn't expect /then/ to see my name, or

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-19 Thread David Wright
n,,,:/home/gklein:/bin/bash > > > > On my (bullseye) system, that field is what is used to get my full > > name. > > It's what I'd expect to be used, unless configured otherwise. Yes, in emails that you and I send. (Both our tests were carried out from our bash prompts.) > &g

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 09:10:50PM +0200, Gertjan Klein wrote: > Op 19-10-2023 om 15:00 schreef Greg Wooledge: > > Traditional Unix terminal- or command-line-based MUAs inject new messages > > into the outgoing mail queue by piping them to /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > That means, as I believe Stefan

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-19 Thread Gertjan Klein
Op 19-10-2023 om 15:00 schreef Greg Wooledge: Traditional Unix terminal- or command-line-based MUAs inject new messages into the outgoing mail queue by piping them to /usr/sbin/sendmail. That means, as I believe Stefan pointed out, that they leave authorization to this single program, for all

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Traditional Unix terminal- or command-line-based MUAs inject new messages > into the outgoing mail queue by piping them to /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > Fancy GUI MUAs like Thunderbird are often written to work on either > Windows or Unix, so they don't always offer the ability to inject through >

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-19 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 01:10:22PM +0200, Gertjan Klein wrote: > Op 17-10-2023 om 23:20 schreef Greg Wooledge: > > [...] This is different > > from when an MTA accepts a message directly from a MUA. That's usually > > called a "submission", and can use either SMTP or /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > So

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-19 Thread Gertjan Klein
Op 18-10-2023 om 18:30 schreef David Wright: On Tue 17 Oct 2023 at 19:41:43 (+0200), Gertjan Klein wrote: gklein@parvos:~$ cat /etc/passwd | grep gklein gklein:x:1000:1000:Gertjan Klein,,,:/home/gklein:/bin/bash On my (bullseye) system, that field is what is used to get my full name. It's

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-19 Thread Gertjan Klein
Op 17-10-2023 om 23:20 schreef Greg Wooledge: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 09:50:13PM +0200, Gertjan Klein wrote: I do appreciate it. If I switch to bsd-mailx I have something that should work. Although I'm concerned by the statement (on the Debian package page) that it doesn't speak SMTP. This is

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-19 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2023-10-18 at 13:56 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > Before stretch, if you had heirloom-mailx installed, both "mail -a file" > and "mailx -a file" worked.  After upgrading to stretch, you'd have an > s-nail program, but *not* a mail or mailx program, so all your scripts > would break. 

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 06:04:30PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2023-10-18 at 11:28 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > (Aside: does anyone know what "heirloom-mailx" is?) > > I remember it being the mailx compatible program that got installed by > default many releases ago, and it was replaced by

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-18 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2023-10-18 at 11:28 -0500, David Wright wrote: > (Aside: does anyone know what "heirloom-mailx" is?) I remember it being the mailx compatible program that got installed by default many releases ago, and it was replaced by s-nail in 2016. (Possibly as a fork of that orphaned project?) I

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-18 Thread David Wright
don't want to receive mail on the VPS, I just want the mail the system > > > generates to end up in my mailbox elsewhere. This works, but the mail > > > from address looks like this: "gklein ". This irks me. > > > My account has my full name configured; > > > &

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 09:50:13PM +0200, Gertjan Klein wrote: > Op 17-10-2023 om 20:40 schreef Greg Wooledge: > > On my system, mailx points to bsd-mailx: > > On Geert's as well. I wonder why. I installed nullmailer, and it > automatically pulled in mailutils. I stayed with it because I don't

Re: Mailutils+nullmailer: sender full name

2023-10-17 Thread Gertjan Klein
Op 17-10-2023 om 20:40 schreef Greg Wooledge: On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 05:43:55PM +0200, Gertjan Klein wrote: While this is more an annoyance than a showstopper for me, I would like the From address to look like "My name ". Does anyone here know which program to persuade, and how to persuade it?

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