Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-08 Thread NoOp
On 10/08/2010 07:40 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-08 20:33, NoOp a écrit : On 10/06/2010 06:12 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, finally, this list is also available via GMANE: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss Florian Working? Works for me

Re: [tdf-discuss] List available at GMANE

2010-10-09 Thread NoOp
On 10/09/2010 03:36 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, Am 09.10.2010 um 05:20 schrieb NoOp: Like the OOo lists (and other gmane.org lists), posts via gmane.org shouldn't also require a direct email subscription as gmane.org does the email verification directly before allowing a user

[tdf-discuss] Windows Install

2010-10-11 Thread NoOp
LibO install in Windows currently follows the go-oo practice of removing existing OOo installs (without warning). It can of course be installed in parallel (see my thread [libreoffice-users] [Windows] LibO in parallel w/OOo? on the users list, but that provides several distinct disadvantages: 1.

Re: [tdf-discuss] Windows Install

2010-10-11 Thread NoOp
On 10/11/2010 05:44 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-11 19:00, NoOp a écrit : LibO install in Windows currently follows the go-oo practice of removing existing OOo installs (without warning). It can of course be installed in parallel (see my thread [libreoffice-users] [Windows] LibO

Re: [tdf-discuss] Survey|Opinion - LibreOffice Install and Update

2010-10-11 Thread NoOp
On 10/09/2010 02:23 PM, Scott Furry wrote: This survey is to gauge the views of the LibreOffice community on the install/update method of LibreOffice. Please voice your opinion so that these considerations may be taken into account when the LibreOffice method of install/update is studied

Re: [tdf-discuss] Windows Install

2010-10-12 Thread NoOp
On 10/12/2010 01:30 AM, Fridrich Strba wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Please, don't enter into political consideration of something that was just a bug. It was me that screwed it up and during the pre-announcement phase sprint, I forgot to regenerate the product IDs

Re: [tdf-discuss] Windows Install

2010-10-13 Thread NoOp
On 10/13/2010 08:59 AM, Ken Brown wrote: On 10/12/2010 4:30 AM, Fridrich Strba wrote: It was me that screwed it up and during the pre-announcement phase sprint, I forgot to regenerate the product IDs and thus LO had the product IDs of OOo. This is fixed in beta2, so stay tuned. As a

Re: [tdf-discuss] Windows Install

2010-10-13 Thread NoOp
On 10/13/2010 10:52 AM, Volker Merschmann wrote: Hi, 2010/10/13 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: ... I'm preparing to test it now: http://mirrors.supportex.net/tdf/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta2/win/x86/ Note that it's a huge download: 318M This is because it's a multi-language build. I

Re: [tdf-discuss] Windows Install

2010-10-13 Thread NoOp
On 10/13/2010 11:14 AM, NoOp wrote: On 10/13/2010 10:52 AM, Volker Merschmann wrote: ... It is very much recommended to do the uninstall of beta1. If you try to over-install with beta2 you will have two will have two entries for LO in the system control panel afterwards. This is a known bug

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice crashes when inserting caption

2010-10-13 Thread NoOp
On 10/13/2010 10:26 AM, leif wrote: The Beta2 crashes when inserting caption text in Writer. I'm using Ubuntu 32bit. Confirm. Can you please move this over to the users list perhaps we can figure out how to troubleshoot? Gary (NoOp) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h

Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice crashes when inserting caption

2010-10-14 Thread NoOp
On 10/13/2010 05:22 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-10-13 20:06, NoOp a écrit : On 10/13/2010 10:26 AM, leif wrote: The Beta2 crashes when inserting caption text in Writer. I'm using Ubuntu 32bit. Confirm. Can you please move this over to the users list perhaps we can figure out how

[tdf-discuss] Re: Old Bugs

2010-11-04 Thread NoOp
On 11/02/2010 08:28 AM, T. J. Brumfield wrote: There were several old, often commented on, and often requested bug fixes and features that didn't receive much attention or weren't resolved with OOo over the years. For those who may not be aware of the reasons for the shift/fork, or for

[tdf-discuss] Re: Problems with DEB files

2010-11-19 Thread NoOp
On 11/18/2010 12:12 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Andy Brown wrote (18-11-10 20:34) Is anyone besides me having a problem opening the DEB archives for Beta 3? I keep getting an error tar: This does not look like a tar archive. I had the same problem with beta 2. So after some silence on the list, I

[tdf-discuss] Re: Version Numbers?

2010-11-19 Thread NoOp
On 11/19/2010 06:22 PM, Michel Gagnon wrote: Le 2010-11-19 19:35, NoOp a écrit : On 11/19/2010 03:26 PM, Sean White wrote: As a concerned user, if LibreOffice is meant a independent office project derived from the OpenOffice code then why do we still use their version numbering system

[tdf-discuss] Re: About Cacert SSL certificates (was: Feature request for 3.3 still possible?)

2010-11-21 Thread NoOp
On 11/09/2010 03:45 AM, David Nelson wrote: Hi Guy, :-) On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 18:13, Guy Voets nimant...@gmail.com wrote: You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to bugs.freedesktop.org, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure. Normally, when you try to connect securely,

[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2010 06:43 AM, Craig A. Eddy wrote: ... René It isn't so much that I administer a Debian release as that I USE a Debian release and do what I can. What I do is what I have managed to learn to do over time, but without any formal training in UNIX, Linux, administration, coding, or

[tdf-discuss] Re: Request: Installation Instructions

2010-11-22 Thread NoOp
On 11/22/2010 04:33 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote: On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:04:29AM -0700, Craig A. Eddy wrote: listed in the README_en-US file. I'm not familiar with dpgk, though I Then get. You administer a Debian-based system without knowing dpkg? Oh my. (Besides that,

[tdf-discuss] Re: functionality issues discussions

2010-11-24 Thread NoOp
On 11/23/2010 11:16 PM, Marwan Gedeon wrote: I'm sorry if asking this here is inappropriate, I couldn't find the answer in FAQ, neither another mailing list dedicated for that purpose: what is the proper place/people to resort to, in order to report/resolve issues with current LibreOffice's

[tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-11-29 Thread NoOp
On 11/26/2010 12:16 PM, Robert Derman wrote: Marc Paré wrote: ... Of these two options, I would prefer being offered the menu AFTER having downloaded the LO suite. The reason for this: some users may find that downloading the suite took a longer than the anticipated time and they would not

[tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-01 Thread NoOp
On 11/30/2010 02:43 AM, plino wrote: The point here is that OOo has a small installer with 140Mb (no Java, and only English, Spanish and French dictionaries). Why is LO going in the opposite direction with 299 and 466Mb??? The current packages (including in the smallest option 56 language

[tdf-discuss] Re: A better idea for a download package.

2010-12-03 Thread NoOp
On 12/02/2010 11:57 AM, BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Robert Derman robert.der...@pressenter.com I remember that optical disks started to replace floppies in about 1995 because Win-95 came either way. Win-98 was CD only. I will admit that DVD burners didn't become

[tdf-discuss] Re: About bundled fonts

2010-12-16 Thread NoOp
On 12/16/2010 12:57 PM, RGB ES wrote: 2010/12/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: But I reckon that this can be fixed by not installing, or uninstalling (on my debian based system): libobasis3.3-ooofonts_3.3.0-17_i386.deb Umm, well, no: this will not install opensymbol font so you

[tdf-discuss] Re: About bundled fonts

2010-12-16 Thread NoOp
On 12/16/2010 01:06 PM, NoOp wrote: On 12/16/2010 12:57 PM, RGB ES wrote: 2010/12/16 NoOp snipped: But I reckon that this can be fixed by not installing, or uninstalling (on my debian based system): libobasis3.3-ooofonts_3.3.0-17_i386.deb Umm, well, no: this will not install opensymbol

[tdf-discuss] Re: PDF export in CMYK

2010-12-16 Thread NoOp
On 12/15/2010 02:07 PM, Tibor Bamhor wrote: Hi, Friend of mine had an issue with openoffice, He was asked to deliver pdf in CMYK colorspace. It is not possible by now AFAIK. But are there any plans or any work being done in this regard? I just wonder, it is not critical issue for me, nor for

[tdf-discuss] Re: Change executable names

2010-12-23 Thread NoOp
On 12/20/2010 12:19 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-12-17 8:09 PM, NoOp wrote: - LO takes over all OOo application defaults icons. - LO uses the same executable names as OOo (soffice.exe, swriter.exe, etc). This makes it impossible to select an .odt and re-associate it with OOo. While I

[tdf-discuss] Re: Happy New Year from Arizona

2010-12-31 Thread NoOp
On 12/31/2010 08:38 PM, Timothy Mark Brennan, Jr. wrote: Happy New Year from Brazil 2011/1/1 Prabath Galagamage gprab...@gmail.com: Happy New Year from Sri Lanka Happy New Year from San Jose/Milpitas, California -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-01 Thread NoOp
On 12/31/2010 08:14 AM, Steven Shelton wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/31/2010 10:03 AM, Kevin André wrote: I would suggest the following instead. Support OOXML completely, but when the user saves his/her document in a proprietary format display a confirmation

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-01 Thread NoOp
On 12/31/2010 02:18 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote: But I think that in a corporate context, a batch program for converting .doc and .docx to ODF would get some support and would/could ease the conversion. After all those years, there's a pile of .docs sitting on most PCs in this world. And

[tdf-discuss] Re: Do not support writing to OOXML format

2011-01-01 Thread NoOp
On 01/01/2011 12:58 PM, Sveinn í Felli wrote: Þann lau 1.jan 2011 19:57, skrifaði NoOp: On 12/31/2010 02:18 AM, Sveinn í Felli wrote: But I think that in a corporate context, a batch program for converting .doc and .docx to ODF would get some support and would/could ease the conversion

[tdf-discuss] Re: Co-working with Moz, etc

2011-01-02 Thread NoOp
On 01/02/2011 10:49 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2011-01-01 1:43 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Whats really held OOo and will hold LO back is the lack of an equivalent program such as outlook. Well, I disagree, but there is no way to prove one of us is right, so... There are one of three

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Document Foundation launches LibreOffice 3.3

2011-01-25 Thread NoOp
On 01/25/2011 06:43 PM, NoOp wrote: ... - the Windows installer, which is going to impact the largest and most diverse user base, has been integrated into a single build containing all language versions, thus reducing the size for download sites from 75 to 11GB, making it easier for us

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Final or still RC4 (64 Deb)

2011-01-27 Thread NoOp
On 01/27/2011 05:01 PM, Johanes Lee wrote: Hi, I downloaded LibreOffice 64-bit for Deb Version: LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz But extracted as following directory LibO_3.3.0rc4_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US Install success, Found this version information in the

[tdf-discuss] Re: The Document Foundation launches LibreOffice 3.3

2011-01-28 Thread NoOp
On 01/27/2011 03:34 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi there, On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 18:43 -0800, NoOp wrote: It also still uses soffice.exe et all in Windows; meaning that LO still takes over OOo if both are installed in parallel. Unfortunately, there is some inevitability of conflict here

[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents

2011-01-30 Thread NoOp
On 01/30/2011 04:01 AM, Magnus Johansson wrote: Halló Sveinn, and thanks for your reply. I don't know if my EPS images are vector graphics or bitmapped. How can I find out? This discussion is probably better over on the libereoffice user list - that way you might find more answers. I've had

[tdf-discuss] Re: EPS images in ODF documents

2011-02-01 Thread NoOp
On 02/01/2011 01:44 AM, Magnus Johansson wrote: I have made two test files with the kind of EPS images I work with. I put the test together with OOo in the ODT document and then printed a PDF file of that document with CUPS-PDF; I hope I managed to upload and attach them here properly. With

Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-discuss] 恭禧發財

2011-02-04 Thread NoOp
On 02/04/2011 12:18 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/2/4 Harold Fuchs hwfa.libreoff...@gmail.com ... Google translator translates your 戴安理 as Diane Li. Why, please? I have *no* Chinese of any description (Mandarin, Cantonese, ...) whatsoever so, if it's a pun or similar, please explain. Oh, and

[tdf-discuss] RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs

2011-02-11 Thread NoOp
RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ 64bit .debs are there, but not the 32bit .debs. Clicking on 'Linux x86 (deb) results in: null Also checking: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.1-rc1/deb/

[tdf-discuss] Re: Extensions for LibreOffice

2011-02-12 Thread NoOp
On 02/12/2011 02:17 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/2/12 Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:46:02PM +0100, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Christophe Strobbe schrieb: I hope they are, but[...] Hi, I see several problems:

[tdf-discuss] Re: Trouble installing on Windows XP

2011-02-12 Thread NoOp
On 02/10/2011 12:32 PM, abenglen wrote: I have used OpenOffice for several years, and now I am trying to install LibreOffice on a Windows XP computer. About 4/5th the way thru installing (according to progress on the status bar), installation stops (hangs) and goes no further. There was no

[tdf-discuss] Re: RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs

2011-02-14 Thread NoOp
On 02/14/2011 12:13 PM, twcw chenhall wrote: On 12/02/11 00:55, NoOp wrote: RC1 PreRelease missing 32bit debs http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ 64bit .debs are there, but not the 32bit .debs. Clicking on 'Linux x86 (deb) results in: null Also checking: http

[tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10

2011-02-20 Thread NoOp
On 02/20/2011 07:39 AM, M Henri Day wrote: I recently had occasion to reinstall 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10 (n b, not because of a problem in Ubuntu itself, but because I replaced Windows Vista with Windows 7 on the Windows side of this dual-boot machine and thereafter failed in my attempts to restore

[tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10

2011-02-21 Thread NoOp
On 02/21/2011 12:18 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/2/21 NoOp ... Perhaps try iBus instead? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ibus NoOp, thanks for your suggestion. Alas, I found myself unable to get IBus to work ; for example, after installing IBus according to the instructions on the Ubuntu

[tdf-discuss] Re: Unable to use SCIM to import CJK languages into LibreOffice on 64-bit Ubuntu 10.10

2011-02-21 Thread NoOp
On 02/21/2011 01:16 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Peter, On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Peter Junge snipped wrote: On 02/21/2011 04:18 PM, M Henri Day wrote: SCIM is AFAIK really outdated. SCIM works fine, worked fine for the past years. ...

[tdf-discuss] Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-25 Thread NoOp
Florian, you need to update the new StartCom Certs to include libreoffice.org. www.libreoffice.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: *.documentfoundation.org , documentfoundation.org (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)

[tdf-discuss] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-25 Thread NoOp
On 02/25/2011 12:30 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Which site did you open? Seems to work here? NoOp wrote on 2011-02-25 21.25: Florian, you need to update the new StartCom Certs to include libreoffice.org. http://www.libreoffice.org/ Click on Download http://www.libreoffice.org/download

[tdf-discuss] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-25 Thread NoOp
On 02/25/2011 12:42 PM, NoOp wrote: On 02/25/2011 12:30 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Which site did you open? Seems to work here? NoOp wrote on 2011-02-25 21.25: Florian, you need to update the new StartCom Certs to include libreoffice.org. http://www.libreoffice.org/ Click

[tdf-discuss] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-25 Thread NoOp
On 02/25/2011 01:12 PM, NoOp wrote: ... http://img638.imageshack.us/f/screenshot6z.png/ On the tab with that page open and this url: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/ if I right click on 'Installation' I get this url: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation

[tdf-discuss] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-25 Thread NoOp
On 02/25/2011 01:14 PM, NoOp wrote: On 02/25/2011 01:12 PM, NoOp wrote: ... http://img638.imageshack.us/f/screenshot6z.png/ On the tab with that page open and this url: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/ if I right click on 'Installation' I get this url: https

[tdf-discuss] Re: Setup Advice

2011-02-25 Thread NoOp
On 02/21/2011 02:16 PM, Mark Preston wrote: I'm about ready to load up LibreOffice and start running it for work but have really one simple question before I do. Background is I will be running it on Windows Vista, currently run OpenOffice and will be using it near daily including with MS

[tdf-discuss] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-27 Thread NoOp
On 02/27/2011 07:10 AM, M Henri Day wrote: ... Interesting ! I checked this out in FF, Chromium, and Opera and at first glance everything looked fine. However, that latest Opera contains a feature that allows one to check security information with respect to a website, and under the

[tdf-discuss] [Solved] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-27 Thread NoOp
On 02/27/2011 11:52 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/2/27 NoOp snipped On 02/27/2011 07:10 AM, M Henri Day wrote: ... That's OK as it is pulling the images from an http vs http: http://www.libreoffice.org/assets/resized_screenshots_avoid/Screenshot-12.png In other words, its mixed only

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Solved] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-27 Thread NoOp
On 02/27/2011 01:09 PM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/2/27 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net On 02/27/2011 11:52 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/2/27 NoOp snipped On 02/27/2011 07:10 AM, M Henri Day wrote: ... That's OK as it is pulling the images from an http vs http: http://www.libreoffice.org

[tdf-discuss] [Resolved] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-27 Thread NoOp
On 02/27/2011 12:15 PM, NoOp wrote: ... Looks like a SeaMonkey profile issue. Just tried on a different machine the regular profile gets the errors. Switched to a clean 'test' profile and https://www.libreoffice.org/download works fine (linux). Now I just have to find the correct mozilla

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Resolved] Re: Ping Florian - StartCom Certs

2011-02-28 Thread NoOp
On 02/27/2011 10:47 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi, NoOp wrote on 2011-02-27 22.52: Found it. security.enable.ssl2 was set to true. Reset it to false the page now loads fine. thanks for sharing! There are quite some other reports of issues with the SSL certificate, so if anyone

[tdf-discuss] Mail List issues

2011-03-08 Thread NoOp
Of late there are multiple posts on the users list regarding mail list subscribe and unsubscribe issues. A post back in October [tdf-discuss] Mailing list user preferences?: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/100 [Note: I tried to find the thread in:

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-08 Thread NoOp
On 03/08/2011 07:05 PM, NoOp wrote: ... 4. Why is it necesary to send an email for unsubscribe instructions? Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org etc at all? Hello... is this some type of secret handshake that takes place to get off of the users list? This list

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread NoOp
an administrative interface, where list owners can edit some settings and (un)subscribe people. I agree that a lack of this is really ugly. However, it needs time and resources, so if anyone volunteers to code, let us know. :-) NoOp wrote on 2011-03-09 04.05: 1. Why are unsubscribed posts even

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-09 Thread NoOp
On 03/09/2011 06:16 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: ... And you mentioned that one could have learned from OOo lists: Ha, that is a good one. The OOo lists have explicit unsubscribe instructions in *every* footer, but still people complain about not knowing to unsubscribe. So having that in

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-10 Thread NoOp
On 03/10/2011 03:08 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: ... infrastructure budget. I'm not commenting on the language (you also insulted me above, so don't throw the first stone), but he surely knows what he is doing in technical terms. My sincere apologies. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-10 Thread NoOp
On 03/10/2011 02:47 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote: Hi Charles, *, Charles Marcus schrieb: On 2011-03-10 8:09 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: The one situation where unsubscribing is difficult is when the reply asking for confirmation to unsubscribe is flagged as spam and thus not sorted

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mail List issues

2011-03-10 Thread NoOp
On 03/10/2011 05:09 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:17 AM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 03/09/2011 06:16 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: ... And you mentioned that one could have learned from OOo lists: Ha, that is a good one. The OOo lists have explicit

[tdf-discuss] [OT] Japan Earthquake

2011-03-11 Thread NoOp
To all the LibreOffice/TDF users/contributors in Japan areas affected by the earthquake, I wish you, your families, and friends well. Gary -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ *** All posts

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question

2011-05-02 Thread NoOp
On 04/30/2011 01:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Harold Fuchs wrote: Has Oracle given permission for TDF to use its forum, or doesn't TDF need such permission? Does TDF *want* to use an Oracle resource? I think Drew has already explained this on multiple mailing lists, anyway: the forums at

[tdf-discuss] Re: Forums - A Different Question

2011-05-03 Thread NoOp
On 05/03/2011 02:17 AM, Manfred Usselmann wrote: On Mon, 02 May 2011 19:49:53 -0700 NoOp... Sorry, but I'd have to disagree... http://openoffice.org/terms_of_use The resources are owned and operated by Oracle. It's no contraction that the resource is made available by Oracle and the forum

[tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-19 Thread NoOp
On 05/19/2011 10:23 AM, plino wrote: Hi Tor Please no. We who have had to look at that codebase and even fix some problems in it are glad that it is abandoned. It is a huge unmaintainable pile of XSLT, and then some silly C# code around that. (snip) Furthermore, this allegedly

[tdf-discuss] Re: OpenOffice dead and burried?

2011-05-19 Thread NoOp
On 05/19/2011 11:03 AM, Andras Timar wrote: 2011/5/19 plino pedl...@gmail.com: Then I think it's time to create a proper C/C++ ODF importer for Word. If this worked properly then this would be a further step in promoting ODF as a de facto open format alternative. ODF support is present in

[tdf-discuss] Any wikipedia members/contributors here?

2011-05-19 Thread NoOp
If you are a wikipedia member/contributor, perhaps you can have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_OpenDocument_software No mention of LibreOffice. However, before updating the page, be aware of: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user/4599

[tdf-discuss] Re: Any wikipedia members/contributors here?

2011-05-20 Thread NoOp
On 05/19/2011 05:18 PM, NoOp wrote: If you are a wikipedia member/contributor, perhaps you can have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_OpenDocument_software No mention of LibreOffice. Thanks Dubyus: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title

[tdf-discuss] Re: Any wikipedia members/contributors here?

2011-05-22 Thread NoOp
On 05/21/2011 11:04 AM, Robert Derman wrote: NoOp wrote: On 05/19/2011 05:18 PM, NoOp wrote: If you are a wikipedia member/contributor, perhaps you can have a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_OpenDocument_software No mention of LibreOffice. Appearantly

[tdf-discuss] Mailing List FAQ

2011-05-24 Thread NoOp
Is there one? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ doesn't show or refer to one. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive:

[tdf-discuss] Re: Mailing List FAQ

2011-05-25 Thread NoOp
On 05/24/2011 11:43 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: Hi, 2011/5/25 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net: Is there one? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ doesn't show or refer to one. The german wiki page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Local_Mailing_Lists/de has some additions

[tdf-discuss] Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator

2011-06-01 Thread NoOp
quote REDWOOD SHORES, CA--(Marketwire - Jun 1, 2011) - With today's proposal to contribute the OpenOffice.org code to The Apache Software Foundation's Incubator, Oracle continues to demonstrate its commitment to the developer and open source communities. Donating OpenOffice.org to Apache gives

[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator

2011-06-01 Thread NoOp
On 06/01/2011 09:23 AM, M Henri Day wrote: 2011/6/1 NoOp ... More: http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/statements-on-openofficeorg-contribution-to-apache-nasdaq-orcl-1521400.htm It will be interesting to see how this works out how TDF will work with ASF. Fascinating, NoOp

[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator

2011-06-01 Thread NoOp
On 06/01/2011 05:53 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:51:09AM -0700, NoOp wrote: ... TDF's Statement: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/ TDF's statement included : Today

[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle contributes OOo Code to Apache Software Foundation's Incubator

2011-06-02 Thread NoOp
On 06/02/2011 03:14 AM, plino wrote: Another interesting article (especially the comments on the post and the answers by Rob Weir) http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/apache-openoffice.html ... Marbux speaks out: http://www.itworld.com/marbux (Paul E. (Marbux) Merrell, J.D. ) commenting on:

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread NoOp
On 06/04/2011 05:10 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: ... Whether OOo lives or dies in Apache, Oracle has made it abundantly clear that this is it... This is one promise I fully expect Oracle will keep :/ Interesting... Could you clarify that statement? 1. @ASF: What happens to OOo if ASF votes *not*

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-07 Thread NoOp
On 06/07/2011 01:01 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: ... Apologies if this may have already been asked answered. If so, can someone point me to the appropriate messages within the hundreds of posts many, many threads on the ASF incubator list, or on this list? Well, as much letters I spend on the

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-07 Thread NoOp
Repeat. On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, NoOp wrote: On 06/04/2011 05:10 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: ... Whether OOo lives or dies in Apache, Oracle has made it abundantly clear that this is it... This is one promise I fully expect Oracle will keep :/ Interesting... Could you clarify

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-07 Thread NoOp
On 06/07/2011 05:26 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 21:05, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 06/04/2011 05:10 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: ... Whether OOo lives or dies in Apache, Oracle has made it abundantly clear that this is it... This is one promise I fully expect Oracle

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-08 Thread NoOp
On 06/08/2011 08:59 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:04 PM, NoOp wrote: Repeat. On 06/06/2011 06:05 PM, NoOp wrote: On 06/04/2011 05:10 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: ... Whether OOo lives or dies in Apache, Oracle has made it abundantly clear that this is it... This is one

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: ... I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list and try to disable the Adabas D driver. Please don't. $ cat /etc/adabasrc DBROOT=/opt/adabas DBCONFIG=${DBCONFIG:-${HOME}/.adabas}

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 01:45 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: ... Where did you find your download copy ? Is it recent ? I had a look at the official website here : http://www.softwareag.com/Corporate/products/adabas/rela_3rd_prod/adad/default.asp and there's no download link. The Download free Adabas D

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 11:02 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:41:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: On 06/11/2011 04:47 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: I think the picture is clear enough; I'll have a word on the developers list and try to disable the Adabas D driver. Please don't

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas database usage

2011-06-11 Thread NoOp
On 06/11/2011 12:42 PM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:47:54AM -0700, NoOp wrote: I'd experimented with Adabas D with OpenOffice.org. Unfortunately, I can't test with LO due to not being able to use *any* data source: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948

[tdf-discuss] Re: Adabas D database usage

2011-06-12 Thread NoOp
On 06/12/2011 01:43 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:31:28AM +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 12/06/11 03:04, Uwe Altmann a écrit : Meanwhile Adabas is a legacy product. I wonder if anyone uses it in a productive environment. Surely not on a Mac. As has been

[tdf-discuss] [Ping Florian] nntp gmane posts to user list still not getting to the list

2011-06-13 Thread NoOp
Florian, Any idea when the issue with posting to the user list (gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user) ala your change from @libreoffice.org to @global.libreoffice.org will be fixed? On that list you are still missing contributions from gmane user/contributors. I would have expected that

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Ping Florian] nntp gmane posts to user list still not getting to the list

2011-06-14 Thread NoOp
On 06/13/2011 11:29 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Gary, NoOp wrote on 2011-06-14 03.00: Any idea when the issue with posting to the user list (gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user) ala your change from @libreoffice.org to @global.libreoffice.org will be fixed? On that list

[tdf-discuss] Re: [Ping Florian] nntp gmane posts to user list still not getting to the list

2011-06-15 Thread NoOp
On 06/15/2011 08:20 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2011-06-15 10:09, plino a écrit : Nabble posts are working. Thanks ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Ping-Florian-nntp-gmane-posts-to-user-list-still-not-getting-to-the-list-tp3061361p3067421.html Sent

[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice +US Gov't ECCN Export Control

2011-06-17 Thread NoOp
In the past I'd answered a few questions regarding OOo ECCN[1] and pointed the poster to Sun's ECCN[2]. What are the implications for LO general with regards to ECCN? I do see that Novell/Attachmate Group do list an ECCN for LO[3] with a category of 5D992. Given that questions eventually will

[tdf-discuss] Re: New LibreOffice Reader Eliminates Need for PDF Reader

2011-07-04 Thread NoOp
On 06/25/2011 03:37 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 25 Jun 2011, at 08:33, Ian Lynch wrote: Manfred wrote: I still believe that PDF is the best solution to distribute final versions of text (and maybe other

[tdf-discuss] Re: New LibreOffice Reader Eliminates Need for PDF Reader

2011-07-05 Thread NoOp
On 07/04/2011 04:07 PM, Robert Derman wrote: NoOp wrote: On 06/25/2011 03:37 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 25 Jun 2011, at 08:33, Ian Lynch wrote: Manfred wrote: I still believe that PDF

[tdf-discuss] Re: Text box rotation problem in Writer

2011-07-07 Thread NoOp
On 07/07/2011 12:05 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Gary, NoOp wrote (07-07-11 19:52) On 07/07/2011 06:19 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Can you please explain how you create a text box in Writer, that you can rotate? Did you do that via copy/paste with Draw? View|Toolbars|Drawing Click on the 'T'|write

[tdf-discuss] Re: Question re: Oracle Report Builder and Sun java, java openjdk

2011-07-17 Thread NoOp
On 07/16/2011 06:53 PM, Marc Paré wrote: I have just installed Mageia Linux on a couple of boxes and due to the fact that some of the websites the owners of these boxes wish to access work best with sun java, I removed java openjdk. This then led to a warning that the Oracle report builder

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread NoOp
On 07/18/2011 05:12 PM, Robert Boehm wrote: On 07/18/2011 07:04 PM, plino wrote: Robert Boehm wrote: Obviously, if the version preferred by the installer is the only version that the installed files will work with is the only choice, then well, OK. But if it's compatible with the latest

[tdf-discuss] Re: LibO 3.4.2 RC1 under Windows

2011-07-18 Thread NoOp
On 07/18/2011 06:07 PM, plino wrote: NoOp wrote: I'd recommend a followup to the dev list. plino, when you do that you might also add links to the security notices for the earlier version of VC++ 2008. The Dev list is for devs only. I have unsubscribed from it. I got crap for posting

[tdf-discuss] Re: Viability of the 3.4.2 Release

2011-08-01 Thread NoOp
On 08/01/2011 03:42 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: Given that the release of LibreOffice 3.4.2 is targeted at enterprise users, I find it surprising that the product is thought to be ready for release. At lease 2 significant bugs have been introduced and remain present that would, to my

[tdf-discuss] Re: [QA] Opening a .doc file - Regression in Libreoffice 3.4 ???

2011-08-23 Thread NoOp
On 08/23/2011 01:47 PM, Sveinn í Felli wrote: Sorry if this is not the proper list to ask, but before filing a bug I'd like to know if someone has seen this before: The following .doc file does open correctly in OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 and OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 but neither in LibreOffice

[tdf-discuss] Re: Monthly Bug Hunting Session

2011-09-05 Thread NoOp
On 09/05/2011 07:19 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Hello, I waht to invite you to our Monthly bug Hunting Session, what sill start tomorrow, Tuesday 2011-09-06 at 13:00 UTC. ... Rainer, You may find this helpful when making these type of announcements:

[tdf-discuss] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?

2011-09-07 Thread NoOp
For those that continue to insist on top posting on the LO lists: please consider bottom posting with interspersed replies. I realiz(s)e that the existing: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/ doesn't specifically clarify anything with regards to top/bottom posting. However at the

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