Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-26 Thread Edward R Cole
...@nrrl.no To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling Message-ID: 1380125612061-7579228.p...@n2.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As your post indicates, the splattering of JT65 signals has most likely nothing to do with your

[Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Charlie Delta
If this feature is offered in the near future, it would be nice if the following features were incorporated into the making the P3 a very useful station tool. 1. Since the Dynamic range is rather limited on the P3, the ability or feature to allow 1 or 2 crystal notch filters to be inserted

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Salvatore Irato
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread kc2vmp
I am really hoping the Sensor port will be used for this! (Soon?) kc2vmp On Sep 24, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Bob wb4...@gmail.com wrote: So I've been loving my P3 for about 2 years now, and I keep looking at that lonely sensor window in the back, dreaming and wishing Yesterday I received an

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
As your post indicates, the splattering of JT65 signals has most likely nothing to do with your transmitter and setup. It is more likely to be due to the specifics of the JT65 display/decoding algorithm than anything else. I have done spectral estimation for some 30+ years and it reminds me very

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Rick Bates
If your neighbor tells you it's clean (and s/he knows how to look) then it's likely the other station at fault. Noise blanking, noise reduction, poor RX audio (over)driving are huge issues that can make any reception look bad. Bottom line: don't sweat it if your local stations tell you

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
on another Ham band, so it was not obvious to the operator. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of kc2vmp Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 8:34 AM To: Bob Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Richard Fjeld
Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz To: Bob wb4...@gmail.com Cc: Elecraft Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:31:25 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling FWIW, overload from a strong local signal can cause much weaker signals

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread EricJ
That clears up something that has bothered me on JT65. Many times someone will complain about someone overdriving, but the signal appeared to be OK to me. It happens frequently. Now I think the complainer is probably receiving the station much more strongly than I am and it is overdriving his

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Bob
Well nothing would put the issue to bed better than a nice printout of a P3 screen that was sampling the RF signal over a bandwidth of about 6KHz. That's why I would LOVE for Elecraft to continue developing the P3 and expanding its capability. I don't mind the report, and I take it seriously,

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Bob
Yep, that is 100% correct. If the station that is offended would simply reduce their RF gain control, in most cases they will see the signal clean right up. Then the real issue is that they want to copy a weak signal that is in a chunk of spectrum that is full of strong signals (most likely due

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-25 Thread Bill Frantz
My normal technique with sound card modes (mostly PSK31) is to look at the audio AtoD overload indicator in my software and reduce the RF gain so it indicates no overload. This procedure uses the minimum necessary gain through most of the radio/AtoD etc, limiting local distortion products. It

[Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Bob
So I've been loving my P3 for about 2 years now, and I keep looking at that lonely sensor window in the back, dreaming and wishing Yesterday I received an email from a ham a few thousand miles away asking me to clean up my signal -- I was running JT65 at the time, and he saw my signal decode

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Gary Gregory
Your not alone...:-( On 25 September 2013 00:09, Bob wb4...@gmail.com wrote: So I've been loving my P3 for about 2 years now, and I keep looking at that lonely sensor window in the back, dreaming and wishing Yesterday I received an email from a ham a few thousand miles away asking me

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 24/09/2013 15:11, Gary Gregory wrote: Your not alone...:-( +1 This is one of the nicer features of my Flex1500 Stewart/G3YSX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Gary Gregory
Sam, I still believe in the ol saying...the squeeky wheel get's the oil...so it's good to keep our requests up. 73 On 25 September 2013 01:03, Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: I know we aren't suppose to do the 'me to' kind of posts here and before hundreds of others add theirs and the

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Bob
Just to add that three others have replied to me (as opposed to the entire group) saying they would like to see this too. I suspect this would be a wildly popular item. I've sort of bought everything Elecraft has to offer. I need a new accessory to continue transferring my money to Eric and

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Tom
Even if they never add the feature, wouldn't it be better to use a device like the Kenwood SM-230 monitor, rather than giving up an excellent XCVR for the sake of monitoring youe signal? Tom N5GE On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:03:50 -0500, you wrote: I know we aren't suppose to do the 'me to' kind of

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Edward R Cole
I don't have a P3, so my curiosity is only academic. The sampling function being referred to, would bring a low power sample of transmit power to the P3? This does not seem very difficult to roll your own sampler. I gather the P3 has the needed RF ckts to receive RF and demod it, or is

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Steven Kline
Hi Tom, It's become very difficult to locate an SM-230 monitor in the used market and even when you do, they are asking an arm and a leg. I've got a pretty clean one, but I can't find anyone who seems to be able to service the unit. As you state It does do a pretty good job though for

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Brian Alsop
What if one defined the IF of the P3 to be at some PSK frequency and connect a loop of wire to it's RF input? Put the loop on the desk. There might not be enough resolution to clearly see anything but gross PSK signal infidelities. 73 de Brian/K3KO On 9/24/2013 16:40, Edward R Cole

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
It's become very difficult to locate an SM-230 monitor in the used market and even when you do, they are asking an arm and a leg. I've got a pretty clean one, but I can't find anyone who seems to be able to service the unit. A basic transmit monitor (amplitude domain) is extremely easy to

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread KU4AF
Resolution would be the same as on received signals - frequency resolution of span/450 and amplitude range 10 - 80 dB. One gotcha is that the P3 only handles IF's up to 21.7 MHz so presumably there would need to be some hardware to allow up to 54 MHz. I'm also looking forward to a transmit

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Mel Farrer
  What a wonderful thought hint hint. Mel, K6KBE From: Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com To: Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Geoffrey Downs
G3UCK -Original Message- From: Mel Farrer Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:49 PM To: Gary Gregory ; Sam Morgan Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling I would like to state a glitch that happens once in a great while on my P3

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
- From: Mel Farrer Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:49 PM To: Gary Gregory ; Sam Morgan Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling I would like to state a glitch that happens once in a great while on my P3. It will stay on while transmitting and I see

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling

2013-09-24 Thread Don Wilhelm
24, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Feature Request - Transmit sampling Sam, I still believe in the ol saying...the squeeky wheel get's the oil...so it's good to keep our requests up. 73 On 25 September 2013 01:03, Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: I know we aren't suppose