Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
I'm new to my recently set up, 10 year old, P3. Not one of the hotshots here, grin. I see a green center line on my P3 at the moment with an additional green A line and a magenta B line. When I turn the big knob on the K3, both A and B lines move away from the green center line as the new center of the view changes. The center line remains constant. Is that what you are seeing? Rich NU6T On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 2:08 PM ROBERT GARCEAU wrote: > I must have something set incorrectly.When I turn the VFO A knob MRK B > moves as I turn the main knob. > Bob, W1EQ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to nu6t.r...@gmail.com > -- Richard Hill __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Thanks Alan and all of the others who replied privately! Great response in no time flat. de Doug KR2Q On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 11:51 PM Alan Bloom wrote: > 480 x 272 > > On 12/18/2020 6:56 PM, Douglas Zwiebel wrote: > > Anyone know what the screen resolution is? > > > > Thanks > > de Doug KR2Q > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to a...@elecraft.com > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
480 x 272 On 12/18/2020 6:56 PM, Douglas Zwiebel wrote: Anyone know what the screen resolution is? Thanks de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to a...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Thanks to all. I rechecked each connection and after really pushing in on the RS 232 connection to the K3s the screen popped! What a great group, I had checked all before but apparently didn’t push hard enough on this one! 73, Thaire. W2APF > On Nov 23, 2020, at 18:50, Nr4c wrote: > > Make sure all connectors are firmly seated. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Thaire Bryant wrote: >> >> I just finished rewiring and rearranging my operating position (K3s, >> KPA1500 and P3) along with my station computer. On reassembling I found >> that all was good except for the P3, I lost the signal display and the >> waterfall. I have no problem connecting to the three utilities and all show >> up to date firmware. The P3 shows the center frequency (VFO A) and displays >> PEP and SWR. I have rechecked all connections and all appear to be correct. >> Any ideas? I can not find any help in troubleshooting areas of manual or >> Fred Cary book. >> >> Thanks & 73 >> Thaire. W2APF >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Thaire, Seems that you are not getting the K3 IF output into the P3. 1st - Make sure the BNC cable is on the 2nd from top not the top connector on the P3(Don't ask how I know). 2nd - BNC connectors can sometimes be fussy. I had an intermittent on the output of the K3. I used a pick and "tightened" the female by bending the center female. This was several years ago after moving into a new house with a new Ham Shack. 73 George AI4VZ On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:55 PM Nr4c wrote: > Make sure all connectors are firmly seated. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Thaire Bryant > wrote: > > > > I just finished rewiring and rearranging my operating position (K3s, > KPA1500 and P3) along with my station computer. On reassembling I found > that all was good except for the P3, I lost the signal display and the > waterfall. I have no problem connecting to the three utilities and all > show up to date firmware. The P3 shows the center frequency (VFO A) and > displays PEP and SWR. I have rechecked all connections and all appear to > be correct. Any ideas? I can not find any help in troubleshooting areas > of manual or Fred Cary book. > > > > Thanks & 73 > > Thaire. W2APF > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to gdanne...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Make sure all connectors are firmly seated. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:05 PM, Thaire Bryant wrote: > > I just finished rewiring and rearranging my operating position (K3s, KPA1500 > and P3) along with my station computer. On reassembling I found that all was > good except for the P3, I lost the signal display and the waterfall. I have > no problem connecting to the three utilities and all show up to date > firmware. The P3 shows the center frequency (VFO A) and displays PEP and SWR. > I have rechecked all connections and all appear to be correct. Any ideas? > I can not find any help in troubleshooting areas of manual or Fred Cary book. > > Thanks & 73 > Thaire. W2APF > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
To expand just a bit, when commanding a QSY from the N1MM+ entry window,
the P3 seems to put that frequency in the center of the screen in
fixed-tune mode placing the edges +/- 10 KHz from it. If I QSY to
14050or 14070, which are the center of a 20 KHz boundary, the right and
left edges of the screen remain on 20 KHz boundaries which is what I
wanted. I believe this is what Alan said. You'd think I could have
figured this out on my own. [:-)
73,
Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn
On 5/28/2017 11:19 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Thanks Alan. I just verified that this happens only when I QSY by
typing a frequency into the N1MM+ entry window. Problem resolved.
73,
Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn
On 5/27/2017 8:41 PM, Alan wrote:
If N1MM changes the K3 VFO frequency, even temporarily, it could
cause the P3 to reset its center frequency. To prevent that, you can
set the P3's FixMode to "Static".
Alan N1AL
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Thanks Alan. I just verified that this happens only when I QSY by typing
a frequency into the N1MM+ entry window. Problem resolved.
73,
Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn
On 5/27/2017 8:41 PM, Alan wrote:
If N1MM changes the K3 VFO frequency, even temporarily, it could cause
the P3 to reset its center frequency. To prevent that, you can set
the P3's FixMode to "Static".
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
If N1MM changes the K3 VFO frequency, even temporarily, it could cause
the P3 to reset its center frequency. To prevent that, you can set the
P3's FixMode to "Static".
Alan N1AL
On 05/27/2017 04:01 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I normally run a 20 KHz span, fixed-tune [I'm pretty much CW only] on
all bands. When operating manually, I almost never have to reset the
centering to put the edges on 20 KHz boundaries. Playing around in
WPXwith N1MM+, when I shut down and then turn the rig back on, it
comes up on sort of random boundaries. Anybody know:
1. is this normal?
2. should I be sending this on the N1MM+ list instead of here?
73,
Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall
The P3 has a monochrome WF display mode [in the menu] which will usually show weaker signals than the color display. I don't know if it works with the SVGA, don't have one. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016 - www.cqp.org On 12/4/2015 12:43 PM, Tom wrote: Hi, That's very typical. The P3 or LPPAN for that matter will not always show real weak signals. The waterfall as opposed to the spectrum can be more useful here. Also, averaging,set high will help dig out the signals. 73 Tom __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall
Have you tried adjusting the REF Level? This is a per band base level for the display that directly impacts the minimum signal level displayed. There also is a SVGA Menu item called 'Bias' that adjusts the sensitivity on the SVGA waterfall to compensate for different monitors etc. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 12/4/2015 9:55 AM, Ken wrote: I have a new P3 here connected to a K3. I can hear signals that do not show at all on the waterfall, and barely on the upper part of the screen. And signals that show on the P3 display do not show on the attached VGA display. I've gone over the Elecraft documentation and Fred Cady's booklet on the P3 and I do not see any sensitivity adjustment for the display. There is the level calibrate but if I move that to extremes, it throws off the K3 and P3 showing the same signal strength. I don't think that is the right adjustment for what I want. Thanks Ken WA8JXM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to eric.swa...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall
Hi, That's very typical. The P3 or LPPAN for that matter will not always show real weak signals. The waterfall as opposed to the spectrum can be more useful here. Also, averaging,set high will help dig out the signals. 73 Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:55 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall I have a new P3 here connected to a K3. I can hear signals that do not show at all on the waterfall, and barely on the upper part of the screen. And signals that show on the P3 display do not show on the attached VGA display. I've gone over the Elecraft documentation and Fred Cady's booklet on the P3 and I do not see any sensitivity adjustment for the display. There is the level calibrate but if I move that to extremes, it throws off the K3 and P3 showing the same signal strength. I don't think that is the right adjustment for what I want. Thanks Ken WA8JXM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall
Also, don't worry overmuch about trying to make the signal levels on the K3 and P3 agree. Read Alan's explanation in the P3 manual under Spectrum Display. After all, they are two different instruments. The K3 tells you the signal strength either before or after preamplification/attenuation and the P3 gives you the relative signal strengths of the signals across the band, derived from the IF, and compensated for the k3 preamp/attenuation. Cheers and 73, Fred KE7X See www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books. From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Tom <tom...@videotron.ca> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 1:43 PM To: Ken; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall Hi, That's very typical. The P3 or LPPAN for that matter will not always show real weak signals. The waterfall as opposed to the spectrum can be more useful here. Also, averaging,set high will help dig out the signals. 73 Tom -Original Message- From: Ken Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 12:55 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall I have a new P3 here connected to a K3. I can hear signals that do not show at all on the waterfall, and barely on the upper part of the screen. And signals that show on the P3 display do not show on the attached VGA display. I've gone over the Elecraft documentation and Fred Cady's booklet on the P3 and I do not see any sensitivity adjustment for the display. There is the level calibrate but if I move that to extremes, it throws off the K3 and P3 showing the same signal strength. I don't think that is the right adjustment for what I want. Thanks Ken WA8JXM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fc...@montana.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall
Thanks to all who replied, the various suggestions have been helpful and the display is better although still not like my other rig. 73, Ken WA8JXM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question - few signals show on the waterfall
On Fri,12/4/2015 9:55 AM, Ken wrote: I've gone over the Elecraft documentation and Fred Cady's booklet on the P3 and I do not see any sensitivity adjustment for the display. There is the level calibrate but if I move that to extremes, it throws off the K3 and P3 showing the same signal strength. Lots of settings, all done by selecting the setting with short push or long push of the right-hand buttons and setting values with the knob. For day-to-day operation, I have the display scaling set for 24 dB full screen and set the bottom of the display so that there's a small bit of "grass" visible. It is also a VERY good idea to set display averaging to a pretty long value (top button). I use the maximum setting. What this does is cause random noise to average to zero (because it's random) and add the signals (because they are the same on every sweep). For contests or DX pileups, when there are many strong signals, I adjust the display scaling as high as 42 dB (but never higher). 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question: setting current frequency at center of display
Hi Bill & Gus, Toggling between Fixed Tune and Tracking modes also centers the cursor. Toggling twice brings you back to the mode you were first in. I set up the F4 button to accomplish this toggle. So a quick double press of F4 gets me centered. There was a side benefit. I normally leave my P3 in Ref Lvl mode. If I press Center twice it takes me out of Ref Lvl mode. By pressing F4 twice as I described above the P3 stays in Ref Lvl mode. 73, Mike K2MK Augie Gus Hansen wrote > Press CENTER a second time without any intervening action. > > On 11/18/2015 7:29 AM, Bill Conwell wrote: >> Is there a faster way to put the current frequency at the center of the >> display, than pressing CENTER, and twirling the knob? >> >> Thanks, >> /Bill, K2PO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-question-setting-current-frequency-at-center-of-display-tp7610488p7610493.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question: setting current frequency at center of display
Hold Center twice. Cheers, Fred KE7X Author of: “The Elecraft P3, SVGA, and TX Monitor” and much more. www.ke7x.com From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Mike K2MK <k...@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 12:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question: setting current frequency at center of display Hi Bill & Gus, Toggling between Fixed Tune and Tracking modes also centers the cursor. Toggling twice brings you back to the mode you were first in. I set up the F4 button to accomplish this toggle. So a quick double press of F4 gets me centered. There was a side benefit. I normally leave my P3 in Ref Lvl mode. If I press Center twice it takes me out of Ref Lvl mode. By pressing F4 twice as I described above the P3 stays in Ref Lvl mode. 73, Mike K2MK Augie Gus Hansen wrote > Press CENTER a second time without any intervening action. > > On 11/18/2015 7:29 AM, Bill Conwell wrote: >> Is there a faster way to put the current frequency at the center of the >> display, than pressing CENTER, and twirling the knob? >> >> Thanks, >> /Bill, K2PO -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-question-setting-current-frequency-at-center-of-display-tp7610488p7610493.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to fc...@montana.edu __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question: setting current frequency at center of display
Press CENTER a second time without any intervening action. On 11/18/2015 7:29 AM, Bill Conwell wrote: Is there a faster way to put the current frequency at the center of the display, than pressing CENTER, and twirling the knob? Thanks, /Bill, K2PO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to augie.han...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
On 19 Feb 2015, at 15:02, Phil Anderson aldenmcduf...@sunflower.com wrote: Use the third button down and the right side of the P3 front panel - called SPAN and widen what you are looking at. You can go as wide as 200 kHz. That should do it. I always use the P3 in Tracking mode, and normally my SPAN is set to 11, which gives me a display of + or - 5.2 kHz on either side of the main VFO frequency. This works for most pileups (on CW, where I usually am) except for some of the recent DXpeditions (K1N, TI9/3Z9DX) that seem to like large splits. I have my normal SPAN assigned to FN1 on the P3, so I can return to it easily. For the wider SPAN requirements, I have FN2 set to SPAN 20 kHz (+ or - 10) and FN3 set to SPAN 32 kHz (+ or - 16). I can quickly move to the bandwidth I need using this method. Hope this helps. 73, John K8AJS jebas...@fastmail.fm __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
On Fri,2/20/2015 6:52 AM, John Bastin wrote: I always use the P3 in Tracking mode, You're missing a LOT by not using Fixed Tune and Averaging. Averaging greatly reduces the noise, and Fixed Tune is needed so that averaging continues to work as you tune the main VFO (the average resets when you tune). I use maximum averaging of the top display, no averaging of the waterfall. This will bring out signals that are easy to miss without averaging. Like you, I use narrow spans to work a pileup. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
A rousing second of Jim's fixed tune recommendation. I much anticipate its availability in my PX3 as well. Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S On Feb 20, 2015, at 09:18, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: On Fri,2/20/2015 6:52 AM, John Bastin wrote: I always use the P3 in Tracking mode, You're missing a LOT by not using Fixed Tune and Averaging. Averaging greatly reduces the noise, and Fixed Tune is needed so that averaging continues to work as you tune the main VFO (the average resets when you tune). I use maximum averaging of the top display, no averaging of the waterfall. This will bring out signals that are easy to miss without averaging. Like you, I use narrow spans to work a pileup. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@socal.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
jsdroys...@nc.rr.com writes: Normally the P3 uses the VFO A frequency as its center, but when a DX wants stations to call in very far above or below his own frequency (a very wide split, as used by K1N recently) then I need to learn how to tune the P3 away from the VFO A frequency or else the pileup does not show on the P3. The manual says this is possible but I am missing exactly how to do it. Help? Hold CENTER and turn the knob to shift the VFO marker to your preferred position. Works in either Fixed or Tracking mode. -- Pierfrancesco Caci, ik5pvx __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Hi Julie, Use the third button down and the right side of the P3 front panel - called SPAN and widen what you are looking at. You can go as wide as 200 kHz. That should do it. I like to use 100 to 50 kHz span so can see more detail on the P3 screen. I also added a 19 inch monitor so I could see the big picture. To use a monitor, you need to add the serial port in/out to the P3. Then, you attach your USB-to-serial port adapter from your computer - assuming you are using one - so you can run from a variety of computer programs from your keyboard to the K3. Those would include the terminal program that comes with the K3 kit. I recently installed N1MM+ (and have the second RX in the K3) so have two panels open on my other monitor (for the computer) wherein I can see/control/log in two panels, one for VFOA and one for VFOB, good for contesting and reg op as well. 73, Phil, W0XI jsdroys...@nc.rr.com mailto:jsdroys...@nc.rr.com Thursday, February 19, 2015 12:24 PM Normally the P3 uses the VFO A frequency as its center, but when a DX wants stations to call in very far above or below his own frequency (a very wide split, as used by K1N recently) then I need to learn how to tune the P3 away from the VFO A frequency or else the pileup does not show on the P3. The manual says this is possible but I am missing exactly how to do it. Help? Thanks in advance! Julie KT4JR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to aldenmcduf...@sunflower.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Hi Julie, It sounds like you prefer to leave your P3 in Tracking mode. The procedure I'll describe works best if you have the P3 set to Fixed Tune mode. I have a Fn button set to flip back and forth between Fixed Tune and Tracking but if you don't you can easily access it from the Menu under FixTrack. Just push the SELECT knob to flip flop between Fixed Tune mode and Tracking mode. If the DX is operating UP you'll want your VFO-A cursor to be on the left side of the screen. To do this hold the CENTER button on the right side of the P3. Then twist the P3 knob clockwise. If you don't see the full pileup you may have to increase the frequency SPAN of the display. Just press the SPAN button and twist the P3 knob clockwise. If the DX station is listening DOWN then you'll move the VFO-A cursor to the right side of the screen by twisting the knob counterclockwise. 73, Mike K2MK jsdroyster wrote Normally the P3 uses the VFO A frequency as its center, but when a DX wants stations to call in very far above or below his own frequency (a very wide split, as used by K1N recently) then I need to learn how to tune the P3 away from the VFO A frequency or else the pileup does not show on the P3. The manual says this is possible but I am missing exactly how to do it. Help? Thanks in advance! Julie KT4JR -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-question-tp7599013p7599020.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question
If you are referring to the span it is 200Khz. http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm On Mon, May 19, 2014, at 06:03 PM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote: Good Evening, This is Mark Griffin, KB3Z. I was reading about the P3 and was wondering what the Maximum Panadapter Bandwidth was. I was reading about the Flex 6300 and they say their Max Panadapter Bandwidth is 7 Mhz. How does the P3 stack up to that? Thanks!! Mark KB3Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to e...@evross.com -- Eric Ross __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question
It is 200 KHz , but for me I rarely use it that wide. It is more of a look Ma, it goes this wide, but in practice I rarely use it muck over 20 or 50 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question
On May 19, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Eric Ross e...@evross.com wrote: If you are referring to the span it is 200Khz. http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm Correct. The K3 is a superhet transceiver with narrow ham-band filtering in the front end (averaging about 500 kHz, varying with band). This reduces out-of-band interference to the P3 panadapter, which is tapped in just after the mixer. A view 200 kHz wide is about the most needed for typical operating scenarios. This width is also consistent with the narrowest of the band-pass filters. A direct-sampling SDR can view a wider swath of the band for the same reason that it has 15-20 dB lower blocking dynamic range than a well-designed superhet: the A-to-D converter is not protected by narrow filtering. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question - start up
I was able to answer my own question. I was able to use a macro to change the center freq position. My reasoning for wanting to do this is to be able to remotely use the P3. 73 de Jim - KE8G Jim - KE8G k...@cox.net wrote: Hi All, I would like to know if there is a way, when starting up the P3, to have the VFO A marker show up all the way to the left of the screen? Every time I move it to the left, shut it down, then turn it back on, it centers itself. Thanks in advance, Jim - KE8G __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
check the P3 setting under MENU/Fix Mode Fix-tune auto-adjust mode select which you want: Half Span / Slide / Static On 11/24/2013 2:31 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I run my P3 in fixed-tune mode [span edges stay fixed, cursor moves as I tune]. Every now and then, the span edges will jump in frequency. For example, with span=20KHz and edges=21.020/21.040, at some point the edges will be 21.025/21.045 I've never caught it in the act and I can't make it happen, it just does it when I'm not watching. Anyone know what's going on? For the record, Elecraft cables: KUSB [laptop]--P3--K3. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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It's set to Full-Span, and every time I tune off the edge, I get the next full span, up or down. When this anomaly occurs, it is usually [as in almost always] a 5KHz shift. If the left edge was at 1.040, it will become 14.045 and the right edge will become 14.065 I've never seen it actually do it, I just notice that it has occurred. It's no big deal, I'm just curious what is going on. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 11/24/2013 1:15 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: check the P3 setting under MENU/Fix Mode Fix-tune auto-adjust mode select which you want: Half Span / Slide / Static On 11/24/2013 2:31 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I run my P3 in fixed-tune mode [span edges stay fixed, cursor moves as I tune]. Every now and then, the span edges will jump in frequency. For example, with span=20KHz and edges=21.020/21.040, at some point the edges will be 21.025/21.045 I've never caught it in the act and I can't make it happen, it just does it when I'm not watching. Anyone know what's going on? For the record, Elecraft cables: KUSB [laptop]--P3--K3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
I have mine set to half span that way I don't loose everything I'm seeing I just get another 1/2 screen worth of the spans width added in the direction I am tuning. I generally run either 10kc or 200kc spans. On 11/24/2013 4:07 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: It's set to Full-Span, and every time I tune off the edge, I get the next full span, up or down. When this anomaly occurs, it is usually [as in almost always] a 5KHz shift. If the left edge was at 1.040, it will become 14.045 and the right edge will become 14.065 I've never seen it actually do it, I just notice that it has occurred. It's no big deal, I'm just curious what is going on. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 11/24/2013 1:15 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: check the P3 setting under MENU/Fix Mode Fix-tune auto-adjust mode select which you want: Half Span / Slide / Static On 11/24/2013 2:31 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I run my P3 in fixed-tune mode [span edges stay fixed, cursor moves as I tune]. Every now and then, the span edges will jump in frequency. For example, with span=20KHz and edges=21.020/21.040, at some point the edges will be 21.025/21.045 I've never caught it in the act and I can't make it happen, it just does it when I'm not watching. Anyone know what's going on? For the record, Elecraft cables: KUSB [laptop]--P3--K3. -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Hi Fred, While I don't have an answer to your question I would like to offer an unrelated Fixed Tune Mode tip. Frequently I want to get the station of interest into the center of the screen but remain in Fixed Tune Mode. I think there are other ways to accomplish this but the one I use is to quickly toggle from Fixed Tune to Tracking and back to Fixed Tune. I do this by setting the menu option of FixTrack as a top row function key. A quick double tap of the function key moves the station to the center of the screen. 73, Mike K2MK k6dgw wrote I run my P3 in fixed-tune mode [span edges stay fixed, cursor moves as I tune]. Every now and then, the span edges will jump in frequency. For example, with span=20KHz and edges=21.020/21.040, at some point the edges will be 21.025/21.045 I've never caught it in the act and I can't make it happen, it just does it when I'm not watching. Anyone know what's going on? For the record, Elecraft cables: KUSB [laptop]--P3--K3. 73, Fred K6DGW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-question-tp7581126p7581132.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Frequently I want to get the station of interest into the center of the screen but remain in Fixed Tune Mode. CENTERCENTER will center the display on the VFO A frequency in Fixed Tune mode. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 11/24/2013 8:28 PM, Mike K2MK wrote: Hi Fred, While I don't have an answer to your question I would like to offer an unrelated Fixed Tune Mode tip. Frequently I want to get the station of interest into the center of the screen but remain in Fixed Tune Mode. I think there are other ways to accomplish this but the one I use is to quickly toggle from Fixed Tune to Tracking and back to Fixed Tune. I do this by setting the menu option of FixTrack as a top row function key. A quick double tap of the function key moves the station to the center of the screen. 73, Mike K2MK k6dgw wrote I run my P3 in fixed-tune mode [span edges stay fixed, cursor moves as I tune]. Every now and then, the span edges will jump in frequency. For example, with span=20KHz and edges=21.020/21.040, at some point the edges will be 21.025/21.045 I've never caught it in the act and I can't make it happen, it just does it when I'm not watching. Anyone know what's going on? For the record, Elecraft cables: KUSB [laptop]--P3--K3. 73, Fred K6DGW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-question-tp7581126p7581132.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Hi Gary, The quickest way to determine if the P3 is talking to the K3 is to look at the top of the P3 display. If the current K3 frequency is not displayed in the center of the screen then you have not established communications. 73, Mike K2MK Garry Shapiro wrote I have had a P3 for some time but only very recently did I build it and install it, and only now am I trying to learn it. The first problem encountered is as follows. I tried QSYing the K3 to a marker frequency, but no QSY occurs when either marker is selected and the Select knob is tapped. Yes, there is an RS232 connection between the K3 and P3. The RS232 line also connects in parallel to a MicroHam router, and a SteppIR SDA100 controller through Y splitter cables. So I asked myself Are these additional breakouts preventing QSY to the marker frequency? To answer, I disconnected the MicroHam and SteppIR controller, with no difference. Am I missing something here? Is there an enabling configuration selection in the K3? Garry, NI6T -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-question-tp7579558p7579563.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
The RS232 line also connects in parallel to a MicroHam router, and a SteppIR SDA100 controller through Y splitter cables. microHAM interfaces should *never* be connected to K3/P3 through a Y cable. The proper connection is the DB9 (marked CAT) lead of the microHAM cable set should connect to the P3 PC jack and the P3 XCVR jack should be connected to the K3 RS-232 jack using the Elecraft supplied cable. As with any other RS-232 device, the microHAM - P3 connection can not withstand the load of a second receiver or inactive transmitter. Connecting two TxD sources to any RS-232 device will result in improper operation (no data). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 10/3/2013 9:23 PM, Garry Shapiro wrote: I have had a P3 for some time but only very recently did I build it and install it, and only now am I trying to learn it. The first problem encountered is as follows. I tried QSYing the K3 to a marker frequency, but no QSY occurs when either marker is selected and the Select knob is tapped. Yes, there is an RS232 connection between the K3 and P3. The RS232 line also connects in parallel to a MicroHam router, and a SteppIR SDA100 controller through Y splitter cables. So I asked myself Are these additional breakouts preventing QSY to the marker frequency? To answer, I disconnected the MicroHam and SteppIR controller, with no difference. Am I missing something here? Is there an enabling configuration selection in the K3? Garry, NI6T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Question
It could be a lot of things, but I would first suspect the cables. The BNC cable from the K3 to the P3 is easy to check if you have another one to temporarily swap. There is also a small-diameter cable inside the P3 with TMP connectors on each end that connect the rear-panel preamp board to the front-panel board. You might try making sure the connector is well-seated on both ends. Press the connector in with a twisting motion. Alan N1AL On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 16:25 -0700, Fred Jensen wrote: My P3 appears to have gone deaf. Feeding it with my service monitor at 8.215 MHz, it shows -100 dBm with 10 mv input. The baseline is at -140 dBm. This seems like a very high signal input for -100 dBm on the display, anyone know what it should be? I fed the IF output from my K3 into my FT-847, and it seems to be fine, the WWV second ticks go to S9. I've been trying out a new antenna and I seem to have quite a bit of RF in the shack from it. That's about the time that S9 signals disappeared on the P3. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question
Keep in mind that a lot of functions of the P3 will only work with the K3 -- like QSYing with the knob on the P3. Also -- you will only be able to use the P3 in tracking mode, not fixed-tune mode, unless the radio is a K3. And... will it be able to display actual signal frequencies or will it display the IF frequency? I think it will show the IF frequency. I think that all of these features depend on RS232 communication functions that are not implemented in the K2. On 9/8/2012 7:53 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Tjhe current P3 goes down to an IF of 455 kHz, no need for ny P3 upgrades or modifications as long as the traneiver has an IF output. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/8/2012 10:31 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: If I'm not mistaken the P3 either does or soon will support the K2's 4.915Mhz IF. The problem is getting that signal out of the radio. K8ZOA at Clifton Labratories makes a buffer amp for doing just that. It's the Z1B. I have installed one in my K2/100 and use an LP-Pan and computer to get a pan adapter display. If the P3 supports the K2 Intermediate Frequency it should work...without LP-Pan and computer. On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:26:00 -0400 Tom McCulloch th...@att.net wrote: Can the P3 be used with the K2? If not is there something comparable out there? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question
If I'm not mistaken the P3 either does or soon will support the K2's 4.915Mhz IF. The problem is getting that signal out of the radio. K8ZOA at Clifton Labratories makes a buffer amp for doing just that. It's the Z1B. I have installed one in my K2/100 and use an LP-Pan and computer to get a pan adapter display. If the P3 supports the K2 Intermediate Frequency it should work...without LP-Pan and computer. On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:26:00 -0400 Tom McCulloch th...@att.net wrote: Can the P3 be used with the K2? If not is there something comparable out there? -- R. Kevin Stover AC0H __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question
Tjhe current P3 goes down to an IF of 455 kHz, no need for ny P3 upgrades or modifications as long as the traneiver has an IF output. 73, Don W3FPR On 9/8/2012 10:31 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: If I'm not mistaken the P3 either does or soon will support the K2's 4.915Mhz IF. The problem is getting that signal out of the radio. K8ZOA at Clifton Labratories makes a buffer amp for doing just that. It's the Z1B. I have installed one in my K2/100 and use an LP-Pan and computer to get a pan adapter display. If the P3 supports the K2 Intermediate Frequency it should work...without LP-Pan and computer. On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:26:00 -0400 Tom McCulloch th...@att.net wrote: Can the P3 be used with the K2? If not is there something comparable out there? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Thanks to everyone who answered my request. I'm in the fixed tune mode display W1EQ -Original Message- From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@ece.montana.edu] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:10 AM To: Robert Garceau; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] P3 question Hi Bob, To get that display, you need to be in Fixed-Tune display mode. When it shows +- frequencies, it is in Tracking mode. Tap Menu, select FixTrack, and tap the knob to toggle between the two displays. I have one of the function keys set up to do that but I rarely use Tracking mode, preferring the Fixed-Tune display. 73, Fred Fred Cady Fcady at ke7x.com The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Garceau Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:40 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 question The screen on my P3 has a center freq. of for example 28.050 and range readings in the left corner is -50. and right corner is +50. How do I get the minus and plus readings to read actual frequencies? Like 28.000 and 28.100? Bob, W1EQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Hi Bob, To get that display, you need to be in Fixed-Tune display mode. When it shows +- frequencies, it is in Tracking mode. Tap Menu, select FixTrack, and tap the knob to toggle between the two displays. I have one of the function keys set up to do that but I rarely use Tracking mode, preferring the Fixed-Tune display. 73, Fred Fred Cady Fcady at ke7x.com The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Garceau Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:40 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 question The screen on my P3 has a center freq. of for example 28.050 and range readings in the left corner is -50. and right corner is +50. How do I get the minus and plus readings to read actual frequencies? Like 28.000 and 28.100? Bob, W1EQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Got it. Thanks to all. Bob W1EQ -Original Message- From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@ece.montana.edu] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:10 AM To: Robert Garceau; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] P3 question Hi Bob, To get that display, you need to be in Fixed-Tune display mode. When it shows +- frequencies, it is in Tracking mode. Tap Menu, select FixTrack, and tap the knob to toggle between the two displays. I have one of the function keys set up to do that but I rarely use Tracking mode, preferring the Fixed-Tune display. 73, Fred Fred Cady Fcady at ke7x.com The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Garceau Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:40 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 question The screen on my P3 has a center freq. of for example 28.050 and range readings in the left corner is -50. and right corner is +50. How do I get the minus and plus readings to read actual frequencies? Like 28.000 and 28.100? Bob, W1EQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Turn tracking mode off. -Original Message- From: Robert Garceau [mailto:rgarc...@snet.net] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 question The screen on my P3 has a center freq. of for example 28.050 and range readings in the left corner is -50. and right corner is +50. How do I get the minus and plus readings to read actual frequencies? Like 28.000 and 28.100? Bob, W1EQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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The answer is found in the Rev B P3 manual on pages 18 and 19, it varies by tuning mode. In tracking mode the right and left labels display frequencies in terms of their offset from the center, and in fixed-tune mode they are actual RF frequencies that correspond to the left and right edges of the display, rather than the frequency offsets from the center. Bob NW8L The screen on my P3 has a center freq. of for example 28.050 and range readings in the left corner is -50. and right corner is +5 How do I get the minus and plus readings to read actual frequencies? Like 28.000 and 28.100? Bob, W1EQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Yes, although the RS-232 commands are not implemented at this time. So you can see the spectrum/waterfall just fine and most P3 functions work but it does not read out the K2 frequency, and functions like clidk-to-QSY are not implemented. And of course you have to add an IF output connector to the K2. Something like this: http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_interface.htm Alan N1AL On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 11:58 -0400, Tom McCulloch wrote: I apologize if this has been asked before (and it most likely has been) -- Can the P3 be used with the K2 (barefoot)? tnx de Tom WB2QGD K2 #1103 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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One thing that I'm puzzled about is why it is that most of the posters are complaining about absolute frequency display and logging, when the requirements for DXCC awards and contest awards are awarded by band, not frequency. That's changing rather rapidly. In just the last two weeks the sponsors of the Russian DX Contest announced that all logs must now include frequency to the nearest KHz in order to be considered for awards. It is no longer acceptable to simply log 7000, 14000, 21000, etc. Still, there is no excuse for software authors to not understand and properly support the implementation of any supported transceiver - particularly when the K2, K3, all Kenwood and Yaesu FT-450, FT-950, FT-2000, FT-5000 and FT-9000 all have the same basic CAT command configuration (FA, FB, IF, RO and XO). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/25/2011 5:43 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote: Joe, One thing that I'm puzzled about is why it is that most of the posters are complaining about absolute frequency display and logging, when the requirements for DXCC awards and contest awards are awarded by band, not frequency. In LOTW even the time only has to be within 30 minutes to be verified. It's wonderful to be able to see exactly what frequency you are on and I for one love it, but some of the best radios I've ever owned had to be calibrated every 25Kc to be accurate and even then resolution of 1 cycle or ten cycles was unheard of unless you were in an intercept station on some island. I wonder how we ever found each other to talk to back then? 73, Tom Childers Radio Amateur N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 ARRL Life Member Retired Professional C# Software developer http://www.n5ge.net On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:56:02 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TVli...@subich.com wrote: The K3 (along with Kenwood and recent Yaesu rigs) report the current VFO frequency and RIT in the IF command. It also reports each VFO (FA, FB), RIT (RO) and XIT (XO) on demand. A well written logging program will be able to log the correct frequency with that data. Relying on display data would require the logging software to play games to read the display during both transmit and receive. In some cases - with some transceivers - polling during transmit can result in problems. It is better to report the pieces on demand and allow the logging software to use them as needed. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Inline posting for consistency... --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question To: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 9:39 AM The foregoing probably answers my own question which is this: will the P3 markers/cursors that show the A and B VFO frequencies account for the case of both RIT and XIT being engaged at the same time? Since the P3 does not operate in transmit, XIT is a moot point but both the cursor and current frequency show the effect of RIT. Fair enough. A related question is why doesn't the K3 just report the actual displayed frequency when queried? Because the displayed frequency is the VFO Frequency +/- RIT and RIT is reported in the IF broadcast or in response to RO. It would be difficult for many computer applications if the VFO frequencies were jumping around between transmit and receive. Well, if I do use split, my logging program (DXBase) has no problem logging both my (different) TX and RX frequencies. But it does not log correctly if I'm using XIT, even though the displayed TX frequency might be the same in both cases. If for example, I set my A VFO to 14.010 and set RIT/XIT to +1 KHz, and turn both on, the K3 will now display the frequency as 14.011. To me that is the new A frequency, but it will still be reported as 14.010 via the interface. To me it seems more logical to report to the outside world the displayed frequency, not some internal portion of that frequency. Regards, Wes 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/25/2011 11:05 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: When working DX stations that are operating split I much prefer to use the transmit offset (XIT) function rather than using the Split/A/B method. This puts all of the needed controls together. Using my current panadapter setup, an SDR-IQ + SpectraVue, if I want to see where my transmitter is with respect to QRM, I just tap the RIT button to engage both RIT and XIT and the center of the display now shows my TX freq with respect to other signals. Unfortunately, the K3 doesn't report the actual displayed frequency via the FA command, which I assume is what SpectraVue uses, so the spectrum display frequency axis still shows the non-shifted frequency. The foregoing probably answers my own question which is this: will the P3 markers/cursors that show the A and B VFO frequencies account for the case of both RIT and XIT being engaged at the same time? A related question is why doesn't the K3 just report the actual displayed frequency when queried? Wes N7WS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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The foregoing probably answers my own question which is this: will the P3 markers/cursors that show the A and B VFO frequencies account for the case of both RIT and XIT being engaged at the same time? Since the P3 does not operate in transmit, XIT is a moot point but both the cursor and current frequency show the effect of RIT. A related question is why doesn't the K3 just report the actual displayed frequency when queried? Because the displayed frequency is the VFO Frequency +/- RIT and RIT is reported in the IF broadcast or in response to RO. It would be difficult for many computer applications if the VFO frequencies were jumping around between transmit and receive. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/25/2011 11:05 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: When working DX stations that are operating split I much prefer to use the transmit offset (XIT) function rather than using the Split/A/B method. This puts all of the needed controls together. Using my current panadapter setup, an SDR-IQ + SpectraVue, if I want to see where my transmitter is with respect to QRM, I just tap the RIT button to engage both RIT and XIT and the center of the display now shows my TX freq with respect to other signals. Unfortunately, the K3 doesn't report the actual displayed frequency via the FA command, which I assume is what SpectraVue uses, so the spectrum display frequency axis still shows the non-shifted frequency. The foregoing probably answers my own question which is this: will the P3 markers/cursors that show the A and B VFO frequencies account for the case of both RIT and XIT being engaged at the same time? A related question is why doesn't the K3 just report the actual displayed frequency when queried? Wes N7WS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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To me it seems more logical to report to the outside world the displayed frequency, not some internal portion of that frequency. The K3 (along with Kenwood and recent Yaesu rigs) report the current VFO frequency and RIT in the IF command. It also reports each VFO (FA, FB), RIT (RO) and XIT (XO) on demand. A well written logging program will be able to log the correct frequency with that data. Relying on display data would require the logging software to play games to read the display during both transmit and receive. In some cases - with some transceivers - polling during transmit can result in problems. It is better to report the pieces on demand and allow the logging software to use them as needed. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/25/2011 1:16 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: Inline posting for consistency... --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Joe Subich, W4TVli...@subich.com wrote: From: Joe Subich, W4TVli...@subich.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question To: Wes Stewartn...@yahoo.com Cc: Elecraft Reflectorelecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 9:39 AM The foregoing probably answers my own question which is this: will the P3 markers/cursors that show the A and B VFO frequencies account for the case of both RIT and XIT being engaged at the same time? Since the P3 does not operate in transmit, XIT is a moot point but both the cursor and current frequency show the effect of RIT. Fair enough. A related question is why doesn't the K3 just report the actual displayed frequency when queried? Because the displayed frequency is the VFO Frequency +/- RIT and RIT is reported in the IF broadcast or in response to RO. It would be difficult for many computer applications if the VFO frequencies were jumping around between transmit and receive. Well, if I do use split, my logging program (DXBase) has no problem logging both my (different) TX and RX frequencies. But it does not log correctly if I'm using XIT, even though the displayed TX frequency might be the same in both cases. If for example, I set my A VFO to 14.010 and set RIT/XIT to +1 KHz, and turn both on, the K3 will now display the frequency as 14.011. To me that is the new A frequency, but it will still be reported as 14.010 via the interface. To me it seems more logical to report to the outside world the displayed frequency, not some internal portion of that frequency. Regards, Wes 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/25/2011 11:05 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: When working DX stations that are operating split I much prefer to use the transmit offset (XIT) function rather than using the Split/A/B method. This puts all of the needed controls together. Using my current panadapter setup, an SDR-IQ + SpectraVue, if I want to see where my transmitter is with respect to QRM, I just tap the RIT button to engage both RIT and XIT and the center of the display now shows my TX freq with respect to other signals. Unfortunately, the K3 doesn't report the actual displayed frequency via the FA command, which I assume is what SpectraVue uses, so the spectrum display frequency axis still shows the non-shifted frequency. The foregoing probably answers my own question which is this: will the P3 markers/cursors that show the A and B VFO frequencies account for the case of both RIT and XIT being engaged at the same time? A related question is why doesn't the K3 just report the actual displayed frequency when queried? Wes N7WS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Joe, One thing that I'm puzzled about is why it is that most of the posters are complaining about absolute frequency display and logging, when the requirements for DXCC awards and contest awards are awarded by band, not frequency. In LOTW even the time only has to be within 30 minutes to be verified. It's wonderful to be able to see exactly what frequency you are on and I for one love it, but some of the best radios I've ever owned had to be calibrated every 25Kc to be accurate and even then resolution of 1 cycle or ten cycles was unheard of unless you were in an intercept station on some island. I wonder how we ever found each other to talk to back then? 73, Tom Childers Radio Amateur N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 ARRL Life Member Retired Professional C# Software developer http://www.n5ge.net On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:56:02 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: The K3 (along with Kenwood and recent Yaesu rigs) report the current VFO frequency and RIT in the IF command. It also reports each VFO (FA, FB), RIT (RO) and XIT (XO) on demand. A well written logging program will be able to log the correct frequency with that data. Relying on display data would require the logging software to play games to read the display during both transmit and receive. In some cases - with some transceivers - polling during transmit can result in problems. It is better to report the pieces on demand and allow the logging software to use them as needed. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Although I resisted using them mightily, it's the 21st Century and this 53 years as a ham occasionally uses Internet spots, mostly to see where the propagation is. Don't try posting one as +/- 10 KHz. --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: From: Amateur Radio Operator N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Cc: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com, Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 3:43 PM Joe, One thing that I'm puzzled about is why it is that most of the posters are complaining about absolute frequency display and logging, when the requirements for DXCC awards and contest awards are awarded by band, not frequency. In LOTW even the time only has to be within 30 minutes to be verified. It's wonderful to be able to see exactly what frequency you are on and I for one love it, but some of the best radios I've ever owned had to be calibrated every 25Kc to be accurate and even then resolution of 1 cycle or ten cycles was unheard of unless you were in an intercept station on some island. I wonder how we ever found each other to talk to back then? 73, Tom Childers Radio Amateur N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 ARRL Life Member Retired Professional C# Software developer http://www.n5ge.net On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:56:02 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: The K3 (along with Kenwood and recent Yaesu rigs) report the current VFO frequency and RIT in the IF command. It also reports each VFO (FA, FB), RIT (RO) and XIT (XO) on demand. A well written logging program will be able to log the correct frequency with that data. Relying on display data would require the logging software to play games to read the display during both transmit and receive. In some cases - with some transceivers - polling during transmit can result in problems. It is better to report the pieces on demand and allow the logging software to use them as needed. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Me too Wes. That's why I wrote my own control program for the K3 along with a Telnet spider spotting program, log book and rotor control, which also gets the DX call's data from QRZ. All of which are as accurate as they can possibly be. 73, Tom Childers Radio Amateur N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 ARRL Life Member Retired Professional C# Software developer http://www.n5ge.net On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:52:49 -0800 (PST), Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote: Although I resisted using them mightily, it's the 21st Century and this 53 years as a ham occasionally uses Internet spots, mostly to see where the propagation is. Don't try posting one as +/- 10 KHz. --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: From: Amateur Radio Operator N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Cc: Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com, Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 3:43 PM Joe, One thing that I'm puzzled about is why it is that most of the posters are complaining about absolute frequency display and logging, when the requirements for DXCC awards and contest awards are awarded by band, not frequency. In LOTW even the time only has to be within 30 minutes to be verified. It's wonderful to be able to see exactly what frequency you are on and I for one love it, but some of the best radios I've ever owned had to be calibrated every 25Kc to be accurate and even then resolution of 1 cycle or ten cycles was unheard of unless you were in an intercept station on some island. I wonder how we ever found each other to talk to back then? 73, Tom Childers Radio Amateur N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 ARRL Life Member Retired Professional C# Software developer http://www.n5ge.net On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:56:02 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: The K3 (along with Kenwood and recent Yaesu rigs) report the current VFO frequency and RIT in the IF command. It also reports each VFO (FA, FB), RIT (RO) and XIT (XO) on demand. A well written logging program will be able to log the correct frequency with that data. Relying on display data would require the logging software to play games to read the display during both transmit and receive. In some cases - with some transceivers - polling during transmit can result in problems. It is better to report the pieces on demand and allow the logging software to use them as needed. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] p3 question ?
Since P3 firmware version 00.37 from September of last year it is no longer necessary to turn off the P3 when downloading K3 firmware. The P3 is automatically put into bypass mode by K3 Utility. Alan N1AL On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 19:59 +, Paul VanOveren wrote: BlankGoing to a ham friends tomorrow to help download the new firmware. I have K3 758 and have completed all the downloads, he also has the P3 with his K3 and I seem to recall that something special has to be done when you have the K3-P3 combo, Unplugging the P3 from the K3, ? Any help with the procedure would be appreciated. Paul VanOveren 5911 Snow Ave. Alto, Mi 616-868-7149 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
You will need the KXV3 or -3A to bring out the IF to the P3. The KXV3A is necesary only if you are running the K144XV internal 2m transverter. There is also a mod listed that increases the IF output to a level that's best for the P3. You can find the mod under K3 Mods and App Notes on the www.elecraft.com web page. If your K3 dates from before about 9/2009, the mod is suggested if the P3 is used. This is all spelled out in the mod document. 73, matt W6NIA On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 00:00:03 -0500, you wrote: I am considering buying a P3. Is it necessary to also purchase the KXV3 or the KXV3a? Bill. Ai4PF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Hi Bill, It's your choice, either will do the job with the P3. But, If you want at some later stage to go with the internal K144XV transverter then you will need the KXV3A, the only difference is that the KXV3A has the connectors for the internal transverter that the KXV3 misses ou on. Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF Innisfail, QLD, Australia Elecraft K3# 4257 - Original Message - From: bill wade, sr. To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 3:00 PM Subject: [Elecraft] P3 question I am considering buying a P3. Is it necessary to also purchase the KXV3 or the KXV3a? Bill. Ai4PF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
One or the other is required. See the red text on http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm Note: Either the KXV3 or the KXV3a K3 option is required to feed the K3's IF output to the P3. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bill wade, sr. Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 9:00 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 question I am considering buying a P3. Is it necessary to also purchase the KXV3 or the KXV3a? Bill. Ai4PF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Question
As I understand, not yet. The display on my unit is very easy to see. More than adequate even though I need reading glasses and I see it without. Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- I own S/N 1997 and am getting ready to buy a P3. Does the P3 have a video output so I can connect it to a digital picture frame to give me a slightly bigger display without getting a computer monitor? AE6RH Ron Midwin __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question on the noise floor
Ross the only way I can simulate that behavior on my P3 is by disconnecting the P3 to K3 cable. Doing so causes the bootloader screen to come up immediately when trying to do a ref lvl adjustment. You may have a loose cable or pin not making connection? Larry K1UO Ross-33 wrote: Jim, in his reply stated that the level on the screen should go down to -150dbm. As I stated in my email, whenevr I try to change the level, It comes up with the Boot loader screen, Not a lot of help. Ideas please as I need to lower the noise floor on the P3. Thanks Ross ZL1WN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-question-on-the-noise-floor-tp5557268p5558754.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question on the noise floor
Ross, I think I may have missed the original message. Anyway, if I understand right I would suggest doing a configuration reset. (Hold the MENU/LABELS key wand then hold the POWER key until the Configuration Reset message appears on the screen.) If that doesn't work you might try upgrading P3 firmware. There have been some changes in the way reference level data is saved in EEPROM. The latest version is 00.36. Alan N1AL On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 13:15 +1200, Ross wrote: Jim, in his reply stated that the level on the screen should go down to -150dbm. As I stated in my email, whenevr I try to change the level, It comes up with the Boot loader screen, Not a lot of help. Ideas please as I need to lower the noise floor on the P3. Thanks Ross ZL1WN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
I see from the manual that the P3 uses a specific command set to communicate with the K3, so presumably there will be no conflict with a Microham Digikeyer for instance that currently occupies the K3 RS232 port and would now be connected to the P3 pass through port. K3 - P3 communication is firewalled by the P3. The K3+P3 appears to the connected computer as a K3. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
You are asking for an incredible amount of integration between a Windows OS and the P3... Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Dick Yes, I used to use a trackball with my Mac at work for doing drawings. Great tool for the purpose. Sure would be slick if someone could figure out a way for the P3 to look like a second monitor when using a logging program and let the cursor run back and forth between the screens. 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net Cc: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question Older mice (the ones with mouse balls) used two rotary encoders to sense and count movement in two directions. The P3 uses a single rotary encoder and a knob to position a vertical line on a horizontal scale. The same encoder is used for P3 menu selections. A mouse is but one kind of pointing device. Currently the most common of course. 73 de Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Fred Happy New Year Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question As I recall some of the discussions at the Santa Barbara Hamfest, a mouse interface would greatly complicate the design of the P3. The standard computer-to-mouse interface requires a software driver which is not trivial to design and maintain (drivers are written in machine code for a specific processor architecture.) IMO though, It should be possible to design a mouse-like remote to the P3 that emulates the knob and buttons. 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Very true, Dick, but as we really don't know a lot about the P3 yet, it seemed a legitimate question. I can accept that the design doesn't let you get there from here, but if one doesn't ask about a capability, it might not even get considered by the developers. Anyway, still eager to get my hands on one. 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net Cc: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 5:12 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question You are asking for an incredible amount of integration between a Windows OS and the P3... Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Dick Yes, I used to use a trackball with my Mac at work for doing drawings. Great tool for the purpose. Sure would be slick if someone could figure out a way for the P3 to look like a second monitor when using a logging program and let the cursor run back and forth between the screens. 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net Cc: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question Older mice (the ones with mouse balls) used two rotary encoders to sense and count movement in two directions. The P3 uses a single rotary encoder and a knob to position a vertical line on a horizontal scale. The same encoder is used for P3 menu selections. A mouse is but one kind of pointing device. Currently the most common of course. 73 de Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Fred Happy New Year Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question As I recall some of the discussions at the Santa Barbara Hamfest, a mouse interface would greatly complicate the design of the P3. The standard computer-to-mouse interface requires a software driver which is not trivial to design and maintain (drivers are written in machine code for a specific processor architecture.) IMO though, It should be possible to design a mouse-like remote to the P3 that emulates the knob and buttons. 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Anyone know if this is contemplated? Thanks and 73 Bob N6WG There has been a lot of discussion about this, I am not sure if there has been any action or not, the first info that I remember is that the small knob on the bottom right of the P3 controls the cursor position and thats the point and click. Early on there was no provision for external mouse control, but that may changed by release time. Seems that was high on the list of wants. Some one else had asked about pricing and as I recall it was in the 700 range. 73 Merv KH7C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
you turn the right hand knob to move the line and then press it - that is the click as far as I know. No mouse involved with the P3. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein. On 26 Dec 2009, at 17:12, Bob Tellefsen wrote: I know we are still waiting for more details, but there's a chance I might have missed some post with this info. I understand we will be able to click on a signal to tune the K3 to that frequency. Will this require a separate mouse in addition to the one used with our logging programs? It would be nice to have a means where the cursor could move from the logging screen to the P3 display, as if it was a computer with two monitors and the cursor moving between them. Anyone know if this is contemplated? Thanks and 73 Bob N6WG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
As I recall some of the discussions at the Santa Barbara Hamfest, a mouse interface would greatly complicate the design of the P3. The standard computer-to-mouse interface requires a software driver which is not trivial to design and maintain (drivers are written in machine code for a specific processor architecture.) IMO though, It should be possible to design a mouse-like remote to the P3 that emulates the knob and buttons. 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Thqanks Merv Guess we'll just have to wait and see. 73 and Happy New Year Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com To: Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net Cc: Reflector Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question Anyone know if this is contemplated? Thanks and 73 Bob N6WG There has been a lot of discussion about this, I am not sure if there has been any action or not, the first info that I remember is that the small knob on the bottom right of the P3 controls the cursor position and thats the point and click. Early on there was no provision for external mouse control, but that may changed by release time. Seems that was high on the list of wants. Some one else had asked about pricing and as I recall it was in the 700 range. 73 Merv KH7C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Well, maybe if we ask nicely :-) Thanks and Happy New Year Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk To: Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net Cc: Reflector Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question you turn the right hand knob to move the line and then press it - that is the click as far as I know. No mouse involved with the P3. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein. On 26 Dec 2009, at 17:12, Bob Tellefsen wrote: I know we are still waiting for more details, but there's a chance I might have missed some post with this info. I understand we will be able to click on a signal to tune the K3 to that frequency. Will this require a separate mouse in addition to the one used with our logging programs? It would be nice to have a means where the cursor could move from the logging screen to the P3 display, as if it was a computer with two monitors and the cursor moving between them. Anyone know if this is contemplated? Thanks and 73 Bob N6WG __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Thanks Fred Happy New Year Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question As I recall some of the discussions at the Santa Barbara Hamfest, a mouse interface would greatly complicate the design of the P3. The standard computer-to-mouse interface requires a software driver which is not trivial to design and maintain (drivers are written in machine code for a specific processor architecture.) IMO though, It should be possible to design a mouse-like remote to the P3 that emulates the knob and buttons. 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Older mice (the ones with mouse balls) used two rotary encoders to sense and count movement in two directions. The P3 uses a single rotary encoder and a knob to position a vertical line on a horizontal scale. The same encoder is used for P3 menu selections. A mouse is but one kind of pointing device. Currently the most common of course. 73 de Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Fred Happy New Year Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question As I recall some of the discussions at the Santa Barbara Hamfest, a mouse interface would greatly complicate the design of the P3. The standard computer-to-mouse interface requires a software driver which is not trivial to design and maintain (drivers are written in machine code for a specific processor architecture.) IMO though, It should be possible to design a mouse-like remote to the P3 that emulates the knob and buttons. 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 question
Hi Dick Yes, I used to use a trackball with my Mac at work for doing drawings. Great tool for the purpose. Sure would be slick if someone could figure out a way for the P3 to look like a second monitor when using a logging program and let the cursor run back and forth between the screens. 73, Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net To: Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net Cc: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question Older mice (the ones with mouse balls) used two rotary encoders to sense and count movement in two directions. The P3 uses a single rotary encoder and a knob to position a vertical line on a horizontal scale. The same encoder is used for P3 menu selections. A mouse is but one kind of pointing device. Currently the most common of course. 73 de Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Bob Tellefsen n...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Fred Happy New Year Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: Fred Atchley hamkt...@att.net To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 question As I recall some of the discussions at the Santa Barbara Hamfest, a mouse interface would greatly complicate the design of the P3. The standard computer-to-mouse interface requires a software driver which is not trivial to design and maintain (drivers are written in machine code for a specific processor architecture.) IMO though, It should be possible to design a mouse-like remote to the P3 that emulates the knob and buttons. 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
