Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Rod Webster
So with the changes Stefan made, I can confirm that Linuxcnc will build both debs and RIP on the 5.16 unstable kernel. I still can't install from the debian repositories. Lets continue the conversation about this issue here https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/1692

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le ven. 1 avr. 2022 à 21:31, Chris Morley a écrit : > > Whether we release on Debians schedule or our own, with ISO or not, we > still need to plan to have the code as bug free as possible which takes > time for testing after merging big code chucks in. > > This is THE LAW ;-)

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Chris Morley
>I'm suggesting we try to plan a bit better and maybe release more often. >>If Linuxcnc is seriously committing to deploy the project using the Debian >>repositories >>the Linuxcnc release schedule is set for us now by the Debian release >>schedule. Whether we release on Debians schedule or

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01.04.22 19:51, gene heskett wrote: On Friday, 1 April 2022 13:19:55 EDT Steffen Möller wrote: On 01.04.22 19:16, gene heskett wrote: I'm getting sorta familiar with OpenSCAD, but I'm feeding a 3d printer https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openscad available As I wrote, thats very old,

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, 1 April 2022 06:27:32 EDT Rod Webster wrote: > Steffan, > Thanks for the background and update. > Sometimes I think I must be the only one playing with Sid and the > Debian packages. > It's now quite dated. It's a bit frustrating that you have to then > compile Linuxcnc to get the

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, 1 April 2022 13:19:55 EDT Steffen Möller wrote: > On 01.04.22 19:16, gene heskett wrote: > > I'm getting sorta familiar with OpenSCAD, but I'm feeding a 3d > > printer > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openscad > > available > As I wrote, thats very old, much slower code than the

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, 1 April 2022 11:04:09 EDT Steffen Möller wrote: > On 01.04.22 16:59, Hans Unzner wrote: > > Regarding the CAM software: > > It feels for me a bit like everyone is building/having their own CAM > > tool. > > Just to mention a few that comes into my mind: NativeCAM, PyCam, > >

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01.04.22 19:16, gene heskett wrote: I'm getting sorta familiar with OpenSCAD, but I'm feeding a 3d printer https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openscad available ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, 1 April 2022 10:59:08 EDT Hans Unzner wrote: > Regarding the CAM software: > It feels for me a bit like everyone is building/having their own CAM > tool. Just to mention a few that comes into my mind: NativeCAM, PyCam, >

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le ven. 1 avr. 2022 à 18:01, Hans Unzner a écrit : > At least for pycam there is already a comprehensive documentation: > http://pycam.sourceforge.net/ > > Am 01.04.22 um 17:04 schrieb Steffen Möller: > > > > On 01.04.22 16:59, Hans Unzner wrote: > >> Regarding the CAM software: > >> It feels

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Steffen Möller
Ah, famous SebKuminsky is behind it on https://github.com/SebKuzminsky/pycam/releases - that makes it two. I just saw that someone Petter already sent in patches who is a Debian Developer - @petter, I made the lighthearted promise to package CAM to augment the CNC infrastructure of Debian. Can I

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Hans Unzner
At least for pycam there is already a comprehensive documentation: http://pycam.sourceforge.net/ Am 01.04.22 um 17:04 schrieb Steffen Möller: On 01.04.22 16:59, Hans Unzner wrote: Regarding the CAM software: It feels for me a bit like everyone is building/having their own CAM tool. Just to

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01.04.22 16:59, Hans Unzner wrote: Regarding the CAM software: It feels for me a bit like everyone is building/having their own CAM tool. Just to mention a few that comes into my mind: NativeCAM, PyCam, https://forum.linuxcnc.org/31-cad-cam/45456-simple-linux-cam?start=0 I haven't worked

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Hans Unzner
Regarding the CAM software: It feels for me a bit like everyone is building/having their own CAM tool. Just to mention a few that comes into my mind: NativeCAM, PyCam, https://forum.linuxcnc.org/31-cad-cam/45456-simple-linux-cam?start=0 I haven't worked with them so I don't know the strengths

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Rod Webster
Steffan, Thanks for the background and update. Sometimes I think I must be the only one playing with Sid and the Debian packages. It's now quite dated. It's a bit frustrating that you have to then compile Linuxcnc to get the latest updates but the vast majority of the dependencies are already

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 at 09:00, Stefan Freisei Muehlbacher wrote: > there are already debian live images. Maybe it is worth to create a > kickstart-script that converts a standard debian-live-iso to a linuxcnc > live iso. We have our own debian-live repository for creating the custom ISO (with our

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Steffen Möller
Hi again, To me, the .iso is a show room, and that may be worthwhile to extend beyond the core functionality of LinuxCNC. I am too fresh into this to design this myself, read: I would benefit from such a compilation, too. On https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/1691 Jérémie mentioned that

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Steffen Möller
Rod, On 01.04.22 10:06, Rod Webster wrote: I can't wait until it gets to Bookworm. I keep checking It is on me. What the Debian FTPmasters have checked was my initial build. Now, upon acceptance and with every subsequent update, they want just the source tarball reuploaded to autobuild

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le ven. 1 avr. 2022 à 10:01, Rod Webster a écrit : > Jérémie, Phil, > > The RIP build process is clearly explained in the documentation including > how to list the required dependencies, > If you want a shortcut, I would follow this recipe: > https://www.qtpyvcp.com/install/bullseye.html Had

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Rod Webster
Steffan, Thanks for that. Its very much appreciated. The weekend has just begun and I don't have a suitable PC here at home. I will retest as soon as I can. I can't wait until it gets to Bookworm. I keep checking Rod Webster *1300 896 832* +61 435 765 611 Vehicle Modifications Network

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01.04.22 02:48, gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, 31 March 2022 20:23:46 EDT Rod Webster wrote: I am not so sure about that, the ISO is useful to "try before you buy" without committing to wiping the existing OS on the PC. I wondered how relevant using an ISO to try before buy was with

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Rod Webster
Jérémie, Phil, The RIP build process is clearly explained in the documentation including how to list the required dependencies, If you want a shortcut, I would follow this recipe: https://www.qtpyvcp.com/install/bullseye.html Note its not necessary to run linuxcnc as RIP if you compile the

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Stefan Freisei Muehlbacher
Am 01.04.2022 um 08:41 schrieb Jérémie Tarot: Le jeu. 31 mars 2022 à 23:31, andy pugh a écrit : On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 21:37, Rod Webster wrote: This also should simplify the release as there will be no reason to waste resources on building ISO's anymore. eg. 2.8 should be the last ISO

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 31 mars 2022 à 23:36, Feral Engineer a écrit : > I'd also like to just point out that all of your hard work and effort is > currently getting channelled into the young minds at my local vo tech. That's gold Phil! Having LinuxCNC brought to schools is priceless  once I figure out

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le ven. 1 avr. 2022 à 04:51, Rod Webster a écrit : Why on earth do we try and restrict it to using a very narrow range of > python versions? > Surely Python 3.x is enough. Makes no sense to me. > That was clearly my first thoughts! But then it seemed to me wrt to struggle of those in charge

Re: [Emc-developers] Plan for 2.9 release

2022-04-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 31 mars 2022 à 23:31, andy pugh a écrit : > On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 21:37, Rod Webster wrote: > > > This also should simplify the release as there will be no reason to waste > > resources on building ISO's anymore. > > eg. 2.8 should be the last ISO released. > > > > I am not so sure