Re: [expert] How can I make a RPM source after installed ?

2003-09-17 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Luis Duran wrote: I did installed the kgpg (gpg for kde frontend) but i found it in source rpm, I typed: rpm -i kgpg-1.0.0-3mdk.src.rpm. I found this list in /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/ : kgpg-0.9.1-fix-libtool.patch.bz2 kgpg-1.0.0.tar.bz2 But now i don't know if must decompress this files directly and

Re: [expert] Verisign hijacks .com and .net DNS space

2003-09-17 Thread John Wilson
On September 16, 2003 09:25 pm, Jack Coates wrote: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/verisign On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 19:12, Jack Coates wrote: Just finished doing a four-page write up of it for work, I'll be de-working it and putting it on monkeynoodle.org as time permits. ... Gee, they

[expert] Re: nforce2, I don't know how to use it or a bad choice for linux?

2003-09-17 Thread Thomas Backlund
James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 20:39, Vincent Chen wrote: Hi, all My old VIA mainboard was gone weeks ago and I bought a nforce2 board to replace it. I got a lot of situation with this new board: 1. usb mouse won't work during mandrake 9.0 installation event I set it to

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread John Wilson
On September 16, 2003 09:29 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: snip It sounds good except for one thing. In the developed world the US has less than half the broadband penetration of any other country. (Canada has about a 50% penetration, Korea 80% the US only 20%) Actually Canada is now up to

[expert] Re: Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 10:05:18PM -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote: Today, Mandrake has issued a security update to ssh (BTW, if you did not update it yet, you better do it soon, before the exploit starts circulating). [...] Well, while updating is definitely recommended, at least there seems to

Re: [expert] Verisign hijacks .com and .net DNS space

2003-09-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 21:25, Jack Coates wrote: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/verisign On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 19:12, Jack Coates wrote: Just finished doing a four-page write up of it for work, I'll be de-working it and putting it on monkeynoodle.org as time permits. ... Jack,

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 23:33, John Wilson wrote: On September 16, 2003 09:29 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: snip It sounds good except for one thing. In the developed world the US has less than half the broadband penetration of any other country. (Canada has about a 50% penetration, Korea

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 10:40 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2003 23:02, Anne Wilson wrote: Write to our favourite mags, regularly, quoting Mandrake as often as possible. Not a bad idea (I'm a LXF subscriber too), could be worth our while to make our preferences known. I

Re: [expert] OT: DRM damged a windows box?

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 3:55 am, Philip Webb wrote: 030916 Anne Wilson wrote: Is anyone prepared to talk to me off-list about this. why off-list ? we're all interested in M$ horror stories (grin). Except when you have to scrape family off the ceiling g My daughter wanted to watch dvd's

Re: [expert] OT: DRM damged a windows box?

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 5:50 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 09:21, Anne Wilson wrote: Is anyone prepared to talk to me off-list about this. My daughter wanted to watch dvd's on her win98 computer. Then she got a message that said'The DVD key exchange for copy

Re: [expert] OT: DRM damged a windows box?

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 6:41 am, Eric Huff wrote: Is anyone prepared to talk to me off-list about this. My daughter wanted to watch dvd's on her win98 computer. Then she got a message that said'The DVD key exchange for copy protection has failed. Playback is not possible.'

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 07:02 am, many eyes noted that Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 16 Sep 2003 9:33 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Anyway, if we feel that the retail market would start to grow up again, we would certainly consider to address it again. We're also aware that being on shelves is

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 02:29 pm, many eyes noted that James Sparenberg wrote: snip Anyway, if we feel that the retail market would start to grow up again, we would certainly consider to address it again. We're also aware that being on shelves is good for mindshare. Regards, Gaël.

Re: [expert] OT: DRM damged a windows box?

2003-09-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 00:23, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 3:55 am, Philip Webb wrote: 030916 Anne Wilson wrote: Is anyone prepared to talk to me off-list about this. why off-list ? we're all interested in M$ horror stories (grin). Except when you have to scrape family

Followup: [expert] ref to the kickstart file via nfs or tftp

2003-09-17 Thread Kasper Fock
some ides??? isn't this the right place for this kind of question, otherwise please point me to the right one. /Kasper On Tuesday 09 September 2003 18:41, Kasper Fock wrote: Annybody, I don't believe that Mandrake has narrowed the possibility to make an automated install this much. Any

Re: [expert] OT: DRM damged a windows box?

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 9:19 am, James Sparenberg wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 00:23, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 3:55 am, Philip Webb wrote: 030916 Anne Wilson wrote: Is anyone prepared to talk to me off-list about this. why off-list ? we're all interested in M$

Re: [expert] Verisign hijacks .com and .net DNS space

2003-09-17 Thread HaywireMac
On 16 Sep 2003 19:12:22 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Just finished doing a four-page write up of it for work, I'll be de-working it and putting it on monkeynoodle.org as time permits. In your (very well done) exposition, you point out that: The most effective and flexible

[expert] OOT: very interesting fact about how human interpret words

2003-09-17 Thread Fajar Priyanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's so isentnreitg === Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a

Re: [expert] OOT: very interesting fact about how human interpret words

2003-09-17 Thread HaywireMac
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:56:17 +0700 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'm only going to tell you one more time about hijacking threads, then I am going to get very, very, very angry. *Stop it Fajar*. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org

[expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread Fajar Priyanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Holy cow! I'm sorry that I've been hijacking messages all this time, guys! Frankly speaking, I didn't know about it until I searched the archive on word hijacking. I didn't even know how threaded folder works in Kmail, until you mention about

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread HaywireMac
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:46:30 +0700 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I'm sorry that I've been hijacking messages all this time, guys! Frankly speaking, I didn't know about it until I searched the archive on word hijacking. Right there you're doing better than most. Thanks very much

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread Fajar Priyanto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 17 September 2003 04:55 pm, HaywireMac wrote: BTW, that thing about rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy I've seen before, but it is really freaky, no? It certainly supports Chomsky's thesis about language and learning... Now see, I've

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread HaywireMac
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:08:07 +0700 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What did Chomsky say about it? Well, exactly what that Cambridge research showed, that people learn language not in bits and pieces like the phonics method still in use today, but by grokking whole chunks of meaning

Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-17 Thread ed tharp
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 00:52, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 01:21, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: James Sparenberg schrieb am Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:15:47 -0700: Dunno with my luck I would just get a picture of Jlo and Affleck together. (Duck) And who's ass would you prefer?

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread Philip Webb
030917 HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:08:07 +0700 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What did Chomsky say about it? exactly what that Cambridge research showed, that people learn language not in bits and pieces like the phonics method still in use today, but by grokking

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
James Sparenberg schrieb am Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:29:32 -0700: Are people downloading to save money, or, are they downloading just to get the product. No I don't have all the data, Gael has more. But, the 20% drop in sales is consistent with the drop other software vendors and retailers are

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread HaywireMac
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 07:20:44 -0400 Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: and what is 'hijacking a thread'? i never heard of it before, unless you mean simply not changing 'Subject' when you should. well, you could take the approach Fajar did and check the archives... Hijacking is replying

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread HaywireMac
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 07:20:44 -0400 Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: no, that's a NON SEQ : you learn to read with phonics ya, I caught that right after I posted it :-\ -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread Bill Mullen
and what is 'hijacking a thread'? i never heard of it before, unless you mean simply not changing 'Subject' when you should. It's starting a new (and entirely unrelated) thread by replying to an existing post and replacing its subject line with your own, rather than by composing a wholly new

Re: [expert] Re: SOYO + AMD XP2500: new mobo (3)

2003-09-17 Thread Philip Webb
030916 Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday September 16 2003 09:16 am, Philip Webb wrote: i still don't know what the FSB is auto'ly being set to, but the mobo is recognising the CPU correctly as a 2500+ setting the CPU frequency at 1833 MHz . tom # cat /proc/cpuinfo model name : AMD

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread ed tharp
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 07:28, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: James Sparenberg schrieb am Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:29:32 -0700: Are people downloading to save money, or, are they downloading just to get the product. No I don't have all the data, Gael has more. But, the 20% drop in sales is consistent

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread ed tharp
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 08:01, ed tharp wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 07:28, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: James Sparenberg schrieb am Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:29:32 -0700: snip For Mandrake it is no change. Production and distribution of boxes is a very cost consuming thing which is not very

Re: [expert] Devfsd and related issues

2003-09-17 Thread Mike Rambo
On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 14:50, Anne Wilson wrote: I have been struggling with GnomeMeeting for some time now, getting all the help I can from this list, then from the GM mailing list. The end of that conversation was that devsd was the likely problem, and I would need to talk to someone who

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:18, ed tharp wrote: yes,,, but it still seems to me a gold mine for some entrepreneur who can put it together to be a hands off distribution contractor where the distribution and printing of the product are taken off MDKsofts hands, and done by someone with as

Re: [expert] Re: Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 01:58 AM, T. Ribbrock wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 10:05:18PM -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote: Today, Mandrake has issued a security update to ssh (BTW, if you did not update it yet, you better do it soon, before the exploit starts circulating). [...] Well, while

Re: [expert] Devfsd and related issues

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 1:26 pm, Mike Rambo wrote: You're right about devfs - at least in my experience anyway. When I first tried using my Handspring with mdk 8.1 I found then that the only way to get it to work reliably (or sometimes at all) was to disable devfs. I have no idea why Mandrake

RE: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Tango Echo
Today, Mandrake has issued a security update to ssh They did? How do you recieve notification? I though I was subscribed to the exploit list, but I haven't recieved a message in well over 6 months. Do I need to resubscribe or are you receiving noitification by other means? Obviously, staying

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 12:17 AM, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 20:05, Avi Schwartz wrote: Today, Mandrake has issued a security update to ssh (BTW, if you did not update it yet, you better do it soon, before the exploit starts circulating). I updated all the sources

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Avi Schwartz
That is another problem. I found out about it from other distribution's security announcements then I checked MandrakeSecure and found that they posted the information there. They should send an announcement like this to the mailing lists. Avi On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 08:02 AM,

[expert] Mysql problem

2003-09-17 Thread Timothy Brown
Mandrake crashed on me last night with the errors: Sep 16 20:00:02 off186ods kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0094 Sep 16 20:00:02 off186ods kernel: *pde = I had to restart the computer and it did a file system check and now everything on

RE: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Tango Echo
That is another problem. I found out about it from other distribution's security announcements then I checked MandrakeSecure and found that they posted the information there. They should send an announcement like this to the mailing lists. Avi That's strange! I think of individuals that are

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Eric Fernandez
Today, Mandrake has issued a security update to ssh (BTW, if you did not update it yet, you better do it soon, before the exploit starts circulating). I updated all the sources but urpmi --update --auto-select told me that everything is up to date. Tried the

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Thomas Backlund
Tango Echo kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 17 Syyskuu 2003 16:39): That is another problem. I found out about it from other distribution's security announcements then I checked MandrakeSecure and found that they posted the information there. They should send an

Re: [expert] Verisign hijacks .com and .net DNS space

2003-09-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 01:54, HaywireMac wrote: On 16 Sep 2003 19:12:22 -0700 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Just finished doing a four-page write up of it for work, I'll be de-working it and putting it on monkeynoodle.org as time permits. In your (very well done) exposition, you

Re: [expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-17 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Did you also enable it to run at boot in MDK control center? You can check if the settings were made after reboot by using hdparm again (as root): do 'hdparm /dev/hda' (repeat for every drive) [EMAIL PROTECTED] src]# hdparm /dev/hda /dev/hda: multcount= 16 (on) IO_support = 1 (32-bit)

Re: [expert] Verisign hijacks .com and .net DNS space

2003-09-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 00:00, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 21:25, Jack Coates wrote: http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/verisign On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 19:12, Jack Coates wrote: Just finished doing a four-page write up of it for work, I'll be de-working it and putting it

RE: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 06:39, Tango Echo wrote: That is another problem. I found out about it from other distribution's security announcements then I checked MandrakeSecure and found that they posted the information there. They should send an announcement like this to the mailing lists.

[expert] Tuxtype2

2003-09-17 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hi I was trying to install tuxtype2, but both the RPM and building from source fail. Has anyone been able to get this running? I'm on Mandrake 9.1. Thanks Guy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Tango Echo
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 06:39, Tango Echo wrote: That is another problem. I found out about it from other distribution's security announcements then I checked MandrakeSecure and found that they posted the information there. They should send an announcement like this to the mailing lists.

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Thomas Backlund schrieb am Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:46:10 +0300: Tango Echo kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 17 Syyskuu 2003 16:39): So I guess the answer to my question is: Check mandrakesecure.net at least once a week - look on the right side for Recent Mandrake Linux

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Miark
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 08:16:07 -0500, Avi Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be also nice if Mandrake would send notification about security patches to their mailing lists. I this is a good idea, too. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to

Re: [expert] Tuxtype2

2003-09-17 Thread Eric Fernandez
Guy Van Sanden wrote: Hi I was trying to install tuxtype2, but both the RPM and building from source fail. Has anyone been able to get this running? I'm on Mandrake 9.1. Thanks Guy Could you provide the compilation error ? Eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to

RE: [expert] tightvnc startup problem?

2003-09-17 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)
You might also need to update your qt libs. Look in MandrakeUpdate and you may see an update for qt that mentions vnc... David -Original Message- From: Vincent Chen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] tightvnc

Re: [expert] nforce2, I don't know how to use it or a bad choice for linux?

2003-09-17 Thread Mark
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 13:39, Vincent Chen wrote: Hi, all My old VIA mainboard was gone weeks ago and I bought a nforce2 board to replace it. I got a lot of situation with this new board: 1. usb mouse won't work during mandrake 9.0 installation event I set it to USB 1.0/1.1 only,but it

Re: [expert] Verisign hijacks .com and .net DNS space

2003-09-17 Thread Eric Huff
Oh and it seems that Outlook is really affected by this. One of our people sent an e-mail to 8 of us. One e-mail addy was mistyped. Yep you guessed it every 5 minutes or so it kept resending the e-mail because the Verisign site didn't return an error properly. It didn't stop sending

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 05:17 AM, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:08:07 +0700 Fajar Priyanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: What did Chomsky say about it? Well, exactly what that Cambridge research showed, that people learn language not in bits and pieces like the phonics method

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Eric Fernandez
Hi Jack, Thanks for the reminder... However I should have been more clear in what I was trying to say. We can all agree that Mandrake is known as the newbie's Linux while of course still remaining a powerful operating system. I was suggesting that Mandrake include some type of update app

Re: [expert] Mysql problem

2003-09-17 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 09:27 am, Timothy Brown wrote: Mandrake crashed on me last night with the errors: Sep 16 20:00:02 off186ods kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 0094 Sep 16 20:00:02 off186ods kernel: *pde = I had to restart

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Brant Fitzsimmons
Avi Schwartz wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 12:17 AM, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 20:05, Avi Schwartz wrote: Today, Mandrake has issued a security update to ssh (BTW, if you did not update it yet, you better do it soon, before the exploit starts circulating). I

[expert] Give choice of login into local workstation or remote X-terminal? How?

2003-09-17 Thread Apollo (Carmel Entertainment)
I want to allow users to either login to their workstation (like the way it works our of the box)or login to remote x-terminal. Usualy they would run their programs on X server via remote X terminal, but if server fails, they could log-in localy and do some of the work on their slow systems. How

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 06:00, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 14:18, ed tharp wrote: yes,,, but it still seems to me a gold mine for some entrepreneur who can put it together to be a hands off distribution contractor where the distribution and printing of the product are

Re: [expert] Mysql problem

2003-09-17 Thread Timothy Brown
Thanks for the help. That actully was not the problem the problem was that somehome the mysql database got deleted so mysql was actully not starting but wasn't giving me a real error. Tim Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 09:27 am, Timothy Brown wrote: Mandrake crashed on

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 02:46, Fajar Priyanto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Holy cow! I'm sorry that I've been hijacking messages all this time, guys! Frankly speaking, I didn't know about it until I searched the archive on word hijacking. I didn't even know how

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 19:37, James Sparenberg wrote: The only problem now is that for the life of me I can't find your original post again. *grin*. Doing a search on the srabclmed words ain't easy *grin*. Oh and thanks for taking the time to learn what happened. So what do we do

Re: [expert] Re: Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 06:01, Avi Schwartz wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 01:58 AM, T. Ribbrock wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 10:05:18PM -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote: Today, Mandrake has issued a security update to ssh (BTW, if you did not update it yet, you better do it soon,

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread kwan
Whereas you could well be right. You wouldn't know it here. Compusa now has a Linux aisle dominated by RH and SuSE box sets Fry's has put RH both in the aisle and on an endcap (which by the way was the way they sold MDK up through 7.2) The key seems to be the 3 disk sets as far as a

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 06:16, Avi Schwartz wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 12:17 AM, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 20:05, Avi Schwartz wrote: Today, Mandrake has issued a security update to ssh (BTW, if you did not update it yet, you better do it soon, before

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 10:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 19:37, James Sparenberg wrote: The only problem now is that for the life of me I can't find your original post again. *grin*. Doing a search on the srabclmed words ain't easy *grin*. Oh and thanks for taking

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 06:02:22AM -0700, Tango Echo wrote: They did? How do you recieve notification? I though I was subscribed to the exploit list, but I haven't recieved a message in well over 6 months. Do I need to resubscribe or are you receiving noitification by other means?

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 08:19:45AM -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote: That is another problem. I found out about it from other distribution's security announcements then I checked MandrakeSecure and found that they posted the information there. They should send an announcement like this to the

[expert] smbd utilizing 99% of the CPU

2003-09-17 Thread James D. Parra
Hello, Have an MDK 9.1 server where the smb daemon is consistently using 99% of the CPU although there are no Samba connections. Any ideas on what's going on? Thank you in advance. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] Tuxtype2

2003-09-17 Thread Jack Coates
Guy Van Sanden wrote: Hi I was trying to install tuxtype2, but both the RPM and building from source fail. Has anyone been able to get this running? I'm on Mandrake 9.1. Thanks Guy the tuxtype2-1.5.1-2RH RPM installed fine on mine, google for it. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle.Org: Integrating

Re: [expert] smbd utilizing 99% of the CPU

2003-09-17 Thread Richard Urwin
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 7:10 pm, James D. Parra wrote: Hello, Have an MDK 9.1 server where the smb daemon is consistently using 99% of the CPU although there are no Samba connections. Any ideas on what's going on? It happens on mine too after about 21 days. I just kill winbindd and keep

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 12:03:59 -0600 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem is that you're not subscribed to the right mailing list. Subscribe to the announce list (via MandrakeSecure, the very site you were on). It is all documented on the mailing list page Security holes are

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 11:38 AM, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: Avi Schwartz wrote: Also downloading the list of files can be a major pain. Couple of 15MB lists can take awhile, even at IDSL speeds (144K) not to mention dial-up speeds. Avi and set up an update source that uses rsync

Re: [expert] Very sorry for the hijacked threads

2003-09-17 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 19:55, James Sparenberg wrote: Well given the appropriate nature of the name, I vote for BASH *grin*. Yes, well that would be the last straw, wouldn't it. Oops! I forgot about Rubynever tried that one myself tho. They say it's good. Good Luck, HarM --

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread John Wilson
On September 17, 2003 10:24 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Compusa now has a Linux aisle dominated by RH and SuSE box sets Fry's has put RH both in the aisle and on an endcap (which by the way was the way they sold MDK up through 7.2) The key seems to be the 3 disk sets as far as a sales leader

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 01:03 PM, Vincent Danen wrote: On Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 08:19:45AM -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote: That is another problem. I found out about it from other distribution's security announcements then I checked MandrakeSecure and found that they posted the

Re: [expert] Re: Mandrake's visibility

2003-09-17 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 20:34, John Wilson wrote: It all comes down to a chicken and egg argument. People who try Linux will opt for RedHat or SuSE because it's on the shelves. Mandrake barely even comes into it until some poor soul who bought RedHat suddenly realizes what a pain in

[expert] testing

2003-09-17 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I need a test...why aren't my messages appearing in the list? praedor - -- Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked, and

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 7:52 pm, Avi Schwartz wrote: I appreciate the information and I just subscribed to the announce list. However, the same way I didn't know about the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list I am sure there are many others that are not aware of it. If there is a bug that has a potential

Re: [expert] testing

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 7:55 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: I need a test...why aren't my messages appearing in the list? praedor Dunno, but this one did. I've only seen one before this, this week (Monday) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org

Re: [expert] testing

2003-09-17 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 20:55, Praedor Atrebates wrote: I need a test...why aren't my messages appearing in the list? Hijack a thread, that way you'll be sure the list-Nazi gets you;o) Good luck, HarM -- Mandrake HowTo's more: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Avi Schwartz
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 01:03 PM, Vincent Danen wrote: Advisories go out in many forms; I can't help it if you don't pay attention to one of the many: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - full-disclosure ml - RSS feed from MandrakeSecure - MandrakeSecure website (on nearly

Re: [expert] testing

2003-09-17 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 17 September 2003 01:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 7:55 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: I need a test...why aren't my messages appearing in the list? praedor Dunno, but this one did. I've only seen one before

Re: [expert] Startup Script

2003-09-17 Thread jipe
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:21:13 -0400 Gonzalo Avaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi experts I have a little question, i would like to have a script on the startup (could be init.d) that should do two command lines: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 | fgrep -i inet | cut -d : -f 2 | cut -d \ -f 1 ipnumero

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 01:52:09PM -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote: Advisories go out in many forms; I can't help it if you don't pay attention to one of the many: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - full-disclosure ml - RSS feed from MandrakeSecure - MandrakeSecure website (on nearly

Re: [expert] testing

2003-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 8:04 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Wednesday 17 September 2003 01:58 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 7:55 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: I need a test...why aren't my messages appearing in the list? praedor Dunno, but this one did. I've

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 21:07 schrieb Vincent Danen: Problem is people don't take security seriously, so they don't sign up for the list. There isn't much we can do to combat that... in the same way, they may skip those messages we put on every single list and then what? Yep agree.

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Thomas Backlund
Vincent Danen kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 17 Syyskuu 2003 22:07): On Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 01:52:09PM -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote: Advisories go out in many forms; I can't help it if you don't pay attention to one of the many: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-17 Thread Magnus Wirström
Yea ... this gives me a idea how I will configure this :) Thanks for the help !!! Magnus Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2003 03:08 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote: Yes, /etc/sysconfig/harddisks is the usual place to put those settings - remember to copy harddisks to /etc/sysconfig as

Re: [expert] linux multitask performance?

2003-09-17 Thread Magnus Wirstrm
Ok ... now I can check if it is working... and it does according to hdparm :-) Thanks Magnus Guy Van Sanden wrote: Did you also enable it to run at boot in MDK control center? You can check if the settings were made after reboot by using hdparm again (as root): do 'hdparm /dev/hda' (repeat for

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Jack Coates
Steffen Barszus wrote: Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2003 21:07 schrieb Vincent Danen: Problem is people don't take security seriously, so they don't sign up for the list. There isn't much we can do to combat that... in the same way, they may skip those messages we put on every single list and

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 02:03:48PM -0500, Avi Schwartz wrote: Advisories go out in many forms; I can't help it if you don't pay attention to one of the many: - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - full-disclosure ml - RSS feed from MandrakeSecure - MandrakeSecure website (on nearly

[expert] chmod adn chgrp confusion on symbolic links

2003-09-17 Thread bascule
i am confused as to why a chgrp command on a symbolic link will change the group of the link and not the target but a chmod command on the link will change the mode of the target and leave the link alone, i'm sure this isn't what i should expect but this seems so basic that i can't believe i

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Avi Schwartz wrote: [..] need this extra help. One nice touch SuSE has is a small icon in the KDE task bar which changes color when there are updates available. Click on it and you get a menu allowing you to check for updates, show the last update log or start the update process. very

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Vincent Danen
On Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 12:43:05PM -0700, Jack Coates wrote: Problem is people don't take security seriously, so they don't sign up for the list. There isn't much we can do to combat that... in the same way, they may skip those messages we put on every single list and then what? Yep

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Lee Wiggers
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:20:36 -0700 Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Avi Schwartz wrote: [..] need this extra help. One nice touch SuSE has is a small icon in the KDE task bar which changes color when there are updates available. Click on it and you get a menu allowing you

[expert] X-server up, but how do I get workstation to use it? How to log in?

2003-09-17 Thread Apollo (Carmel Entertainment)
I have X server working. It looks like there no problems with it. Now how do I have workstations (that have full Mandrake 9.1 installed in them) to use X server, but not their own X right when they are turned on. I want the login screen to come up that is fed from X server (not local one). I am

Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?

2003-09-17 Thread Dick Gevers
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:25:04 +0300, Thomas Backlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about Re: [expert] Why is urpmi such a pain in the ...?: Vincent Danen kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Keskiviikko 17 Syyskuu 2003 22:07): { Avi Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] } icon in the KDE task bar which changes

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