RE: [flexcoders] WHO IS RESPONSIBLE???

2010-03-22 Thread Matt Chotin
Unfortunately many Adobe products don't support case-sensitive file systems.  
FB is one of them due to a number of the libraries we share with other Adobe 
products.

Matt

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Florian
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:44 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] WHO IS RESPONSIBLE???



I am scared...

I was glad to see that there is now Flash Builder 4 available @ adobe.com... I 
am glad i didn't buy it right away. I can't install it on a case sensitive 
formatted HDD?



RE: [flexcoders] Re: WHO IS RESPONSIBLE???

2010-03-22 Thread Matt Chotin
We share a number of libraries with the Creative Suite to do things like 
artwork import, font resolution, etc.  That's more what was meant here.

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jeff
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:42 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: WHO IS RESPONSIBLE???



When did Flash Builder join the Creative Suite?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Gordon 
Smith gosm...@...mailto:gosm...@... wrote:

 My understanding is that none of Adobe's Creative Suite applications support 
 being installed on a case-sensitive Mac file system. The Flex team was 
 unfortunately unable to get this restriction relaxed when Flash Builder 
 joined the Creative Suite.

 Gordon Smith
 Adobe Flex SDK Team

 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Florian
 Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:44 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] WHO IS RESPONSIBLE???



 I am scared...

 I was glad to see that there is now Flash Builder 4 available @ adobe.com... 
 I am glad i didn't buy it right away. I can't install it on a case sensitive 
 formatted HDD?




RE: [flexcoders] Re: Any Adobe folks on here?

2010-02-18 Thread Matt Chotin
We try to do the right thing occasionally :)

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Laurence
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:48 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Any Adobe folks on here?



Well, I figured this one out, too... Apparently it's not possible to install 
32-bit *anything* on 64-bit IIS, unless you put IIS into 32-bit mode by 
running the following script:
C:\Inetpub\AdminScripts\cscript.exe adsutil.vbs set 
W3SVC/AppPools/enable32BitAppOnWin64 true

And it's that script that kills CertSrv on 64-bit IIS. This flag must be set to 
false in order for CertSrv to work on IIS.

So to solve the problem, I talked my boss into buying 64-bit ColdFusion 9 
Standard Edition Upgrade. Hell of a solution, eh? LOL

Anyway -- thanks to the guy from Adobe who e-mailed me off-list (and especially 
thanks to the group-member here who forwarded my e-mail to him!!) Without your 
help, I'd never have figured this out. (I'm not naming names, in case they want 
their identities kept private -- but I know who you are, and you have my 
gratitude.)

L.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, 
Laurence lmacne...@... wrote:
 Anyway -- now my problem is this: How do I install 32-bit CF8 on a 64-bit IIS 
 without killing CertSrv? Heck, I guess I should join a CF group, eh? LOL I 
 think I'll do that right now. But if there are any folks in the Flex group 
 here who've dealt with this problem, please feel free to e-mail me.

 Thanks,
 L.


 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, 
 Laurence LMacNeill@ wrote:
 
  How hard is it to understand? I purchased a copy of ColdFusion 8 about two 
  years ago. We've been running it this entire time. I had been running the 
  32-bit version of CF8, and recently discovered that enabling 32-bit apps on 
  our 64-bit version of IIS is what was causing all the security problems (or 
  at least it appeared to be the case, because when I formatted and 
  re-installed everything, the IIS server started doing its weird stuff again 
  immediately after I installed the 32-bit Reporting Services for MS SQL 
  Server 2005.)
 
  Anyway -- long story short -- I need to install the 64-bit version of CF8. 
  But my license key won't work with it. It only works with the 32-bit 
  version of CF8. I can go all the way through the install process on the 
  32-bit version of CF8. But on the 64-bit version, it chokes when I enter 
  the key. The very same key that WORKS in the 32-bit version.
 
  So all I need is a key that will work with the 64-bit version of CF8. I've 
  been on the phone and on the live-chat with Adobe tech-support for HOURS!!! 
  And they just don't get it!! I just need a damn key that will work. I've 
  given them my existing key, and they tell me that it is a valid key. So why 
  won't it work with the 64-bit version of CF8?!!! It's a simple request -- 
  give me a key that will work with CF8 64-bit! Damn!
 




RE: [flexcoders] Flash 10.1 - When???

2010-02-09 Thread Matt Chotin
Spring :)

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of djhatrick
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 7:16 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Flash 10.1 - When???



When are the official releases for Flashbuilder, Flash 10.1 and Air 2.0. I am 
bragging about some of the new features , and i get asked when?

Please don't reply with, when it's ready

thanks,
Patrick



RE: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-08 Thread Matt Chotin
I've asked our customer service team to investigate what happened here.

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of GeorgeB
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:34 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!



It was written by the original poster:

I am very disappointed as I just bought Flex builder this week after I carefully
evaluated the product during the trial period. I had an issue activating my
product, and needed support to remove some conflict with the trial version that
did not disappeared even after uninstalling and deleting completely the trial
version. Customer Service was very nice but no technical support was offered.

What else is there to interpret?

Thanks
George

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jochem 
van Dieten joch...@...mailto:joch...@... wrote:

 On 2/8/10, GeorgeB wrote:
  I think it was bound to happen. First Adobe announces that it drops the
  brand name of a product line. Then somebody tosses in the rumor that Adobe
  has dropped tech support for that product!!! (as if it has anything else to
  support in this area)

 No support is a frequent complaint from people and in many cases when
 you dig around for details in the end it turns out that people ask for
 Flex support instead of Flex Builder support. (Case in point: the
 subject of this thread.) When we get a distinction between the
 supported commercial products Flash Professional / Builder / Catalyst
 and the open source frameworks like Flex and OSMF the message will be
 much clearer

 Jochem


! --
 Jochem van Dieten
 http://jochem.vandieten.net/




Re: [flexcoders] Re: Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-07 Thread Matt Chotin
I've asked our customer service team to look into this.

Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity or typos.

On Feb 7, 2010, at 5:59 AM, hpatino.rm 
hpat...@rocketmail.commailto:hpat...@rocketmail.com wrote:



Dear Matt

 That sounds very incorrect. We support released software only.

I bought last week Adobe flex 3 (Adobe standard version)

Called adobe tech support on
Friday February 05, 2010 around 6:00 PM Eastern Time

Transfered to customer service after I was told there is no more tech support 
for adobe. Even the customer service representative was so surprised to hear 
that, and confirm with someone internally.

Customer service try to help me by asking me to re-install the product and then 
I was transferred again to Tech support. Another representative try to help me 
with no luck, he dropped the call and never called me back!

I am not making this up.

Kind regards,

HPatino





Re: [flexcoders] Adobe technical support dropped for Flex 3!

2010-02-06 Thread Matt Chotin
That sounds very incorrect. We support released software only. If you have info 
on how you heard this please send it to me. Now depending on the issue it may 
be that we won't support something for free (activation issues should be free) 
but it's definitely only released software that our team will support.

Matt

Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity or typos.

On Feb 6, 2010, at 5:21 AM, hpatino.rm 
hpat...@rocketmail.commailto:hpat...@rocketmail.com wrote:



I was informed today by Adobe that there is NO technical support for flex 
builder 3. Only for Flex 4 beta.

I am very disappointed as I just bought Flex builder this week after I 
carefully evaluated the product during the trial period. I had an issue 
activating my product, and needed support to remove some conflict with the 
trial version that did not disappeared even after uninstalling and deleting 
completely the trial version. Customer Service was very nice but no technical 
support was offered.

That shows the commitment of Adobe to this product.

Regards

HP





RE: [flexcoders] Re: problems with firefox 3.6 on a mac

2010-01-25 Thread Matt Chotin
The Player team is reproducing this issue and is investigating.

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Philip
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:41 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: problems with firefox 3.6 on a mac




--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, 
gwgeiger947 g...@...mailto:g...@... wrote:

 Has any one else experienced issues with double clicking when using Firefox 
 3.6 on a mac ? I can't get it to work anywhere. I have tried other people's 
 example sites to show double clicking and it works in safari, but not on the 
 new firefox.

 any ideas, help, suggestions ?


I have also found this problem with our application's datagrids, specifically. 
The doubleclick event doesn't ever get triggered, as far as I can tell. I'll 
post back if I find more information.



Re: [flexcoders] Re: 3.5 is out!!!

2009-12-21 Thread Matt Chotin
August is just a typo on the form.

On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:21 AM, Andriy Panas wrote:

 
 Hi all,
 
 Most recent version of DMV components can be downloaded here:
 http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flex/sdk/datavisualization_sdk3.5.zip
 
 BTW, Flex 3.5 SDK breaks AIR app updates, if it is important to you, then do 
 not upgrade yet.
 https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-24766
 
 --
 Best regards,
 Andriy Panas
 
 
 
 2009/12/21 tntomek tnto...@yahoo.com
  
 Hmmm still no news of DMV ... oddly enough the 3.5 stable now has August date 
 ... 3.5, 3.5.0.12683, Tue Aug 18, 2009
 
 Was there some last minute regression that we should wait for a more stable 
 3.5?
 
 
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Andriy Panas a.pa...@... wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  Here is the list of fixed issues in Flex 3.5 SDK, 25 in total
  https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hiderequestId=13381
  
  What is interesting is that mx:DataGrid finally gets some love from
  Adobe, and quite a few annoying bugs were fixed (mostly related to
  item renderers).
  
  Also DragManager received a couple of fixes too.
  --
  Best regards,
  Andriy Panas
  
  
  
  
  2009/12/14 Matt Chotin mcho...@...:
 
   3.5 is very minor, a few bug fixes including fixing a regression with the 
   services from 3.4.
  
   Matt
  
   On Dec 13, 2009, at 7:47 PM, tntomek wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Penny Laus pennylaus@ wrote:
   
I haven't been following the SDK's progress closely so I'm not sure 
what 3.5
offers over what I'm using now (3.2). Can anyone point to a release 
document
or overview that explains the features and benefits of the 3.5 SDK? 
The SDK
download itself doesn't seem to have any 3.5 release notes.
   
Thanks in advance for any links.
   
  
   As Matt suggested they should have more info this week (look on flex 
   team blog maybe). I would personally recommend upgrade to 3.5 for 
   reliability reasons at a minimum. 3.2 was a rough release as it 
   introduced a major feature (marshall plan), this had a few quirks which 
   have since been fixed. You shouldn't see any difference in how your app 
   runs. In my opinion Adobe Flex dot updates are very minor, 3.5 would be 
   3.05 in other SDKs (.NET/java)
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
   --
   Flexcoders Mailing List
   FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
   Alternative FAQ location: 
   https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
   Search Archives: 
   http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups 
   Links
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Flex 4 Upgrade Price?

2009-12-15 Thread Matt Chotin
We haven't announced pricing but we expect it to be in line with the Flex 3 
upgrade pricing.  As far as I recall we didn't change the upgrade prices in the 
middle though.  Dates are also not announced yet, early 2010.

Matt

On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Rick Winscot wrote:

 Not to sound harsh on Adobe... but I shelled out $500 for the Flex 2 - Flex 
 3 upgrade and four weeks later they dropped the price to $250. I’d like to 
 avoid that if possible – does anyone have any info on what the Flex 4 upgrade 
 is going to cost and when it might be available?
 
 Also... when are we going to see (Eclipse) support for Carbon dropped or 
 Cocoa added for the Mac folks? It would really be nice to be cruising at 64 
 bit.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick Winscot
 www.quilix.com
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Flex 4 Upgrade Price?

2009-12-15 Thread Matt Chotin
No, we will not support PPC with Flex 4.

Matt

On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Gustavo Duenas wrote:

 does anyone knows if this flex 4 upgrade will be also for PPC macs not the 
 intel kind
 
 
 Gus
 On Dec 15, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Nick Collins wrote:
 
  
 Us Windows folks don't have 64 bit love yet, either.
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Rick Winscot rick.wins...@zyche.com 
 wrote:
  
 Not to sound harsh on Adobe... but I shelled out $500 for the Flex 2 - Flex 
 3 upgrade and four weeks later they dropped the price to $250. I’d like to 
 avoid that if possible – does anyone have any info on what the Flex 4 
 upgrade is going to cost and when it might be available?
 
 Also... when are we going to see (Eclipse) support for Carbon dropped or 
 Cocoa added for the Mac folks? It would really be nice to be cruising at 64 
 bit.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rick Winscot
 www.quilix.com
 
 
 
 
 
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Re: 3.5 is out!!!

2009-12-14 Thread Matt Chotin
3.5 is very minor, a few bug fixes including fixing a regression with the 
services from 3.4.

Matt

On Dec 13, 2009, at 7:47 PM, tntomek wrote:

 
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Penny Laus pennyl...@... wrote:
 
  I haven't been following the SDK's progress closely so I'm not sure what 3.5
  offers over what I'm using now (3.2). Can anyone point to a release document
  or overview that explains the features and benefits of the 3.5 SDK? The SDK
  download itself doesn't seem to have any 3.5 release notes.
  
  Thanks in advance for any links.
 
 
 As Matt suggested they should have more info this week (look on flex team 
 blog maybe). I would personally recommend upgrade to 3.5 for reliability 
 reasons at a minimum. 3.2 was a rough release as it introduced a major 
 feature (marshall plan), this had a few quirks which have since been fixed. 
 You shouldn't see any difference in how your app runs. In my opinion Adobe 
 Flex dot updates are very minor, 3.5 would be 3.05 in other SDKs (.NET/java)
 
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] 3.5 is out!!!

2009-12-11 Thread Matt Chotin
We've updated the OS site a week earlier than we were able to push on the 
www.adobe.com site.  When we get out there next week we'll have the DMV builds 
updated as well.

Matt

On Dec 11, 2009, at 3:12 PM, tntomek wrote:

 http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+3
 
 Is there DMV released with this as well?
 
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Is 3.5 nightly SDK more stable than 3.4.1?

2009-11-29 Thread Matt Chotin
milestone is coming pretty soon (a week or two).

On Nov 29, 2009, at 1:35 PM, tntomek wrote:

 I had an issue after upgrading to 3.4/3.4.1 where my datagrid would throw a 
 selectedItem not in list exception (forgot exact details).
 
 This seems to have been fixed in 3.5 as it no longer happens. Is there even a 
 rough guess when 3.5 nightly might be promoted to stable or even milestone 
 build?
 
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex SDK Open Source

2009-11-20 Thread Matt Chotin
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Submitting+a+Patch

On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:29 PM, cuttenv wrote:

 Awesome thanks for the heads up. How would we go about contributing to the 
 SDK if we wanted to change something like say... oh for instance the 
 DragManager :)
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin mcho...@... wrote:
 
  When we upgraded to Subversion 1.6 I think the nice web viewer broke. We're 
  looking at getting that rebuilt for the newer Subversion but it's going to 
  take our IT folks a while since they're swamped with other things. Might be 
  worth getting an SVN client that can browse the repository.
  
  You can still view on port 80 though: 
  http://opensource.adobe.com/svn/opensource/flex/sdk/trunk/
  
  Matt
  
  On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:25 PM, cuttenv wrote:
  
   yah it's been like this for a couple days. I guess I'll try using svn 
   later tonight
   
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, steveb805 quantumcheesedog@ wrote:
   
No, I get a Oops! This link appears to be broken. message (chrome)

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, cuttenv cuttenv@ wrote:

 Hey guys,
 Can anyone browse the source for the flex sdk on adobe's site?
 http://opensource.adobe.com:81/svn/opensource/flex/sdk/
 
 I followed the link from the confluence site:
 http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Get+Source+Code

   
   
  
 
 
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex SDK Open Source

2009-11-19 Thread Matt Chotin
When we upgraded to Subversion 1.6 I think the nice web viewer broke.  We're 
looking at getting that rebuilt for the newer Subversion but it's going to take 
our IT folks a while since they're swamped with other things.  Might be worth 
getting an SVN client that can browse the repository.

You can still view on port 80 though: 
http://opensource.adobe.com/svn/opensource/flex/sdk/trunk/

Matt

On Nov 19, 2009, at 5:25 PM, cuttenv wrote:

 yah it's been like this for a couple days. I guess I'll try using svn later 
 tonight
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, steveb805 quantumcheese...@... wrote:
 
  No, I get a Oops! This link appears to be broken. message (chrome)
  
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, cuttenv cuttenv@ wrote:
  
   Hey guys,
   Can anyone browse the source for the flex sdk on adobe's site?
   http://opensource.adobe.com:81/svn/opensource/flex/sdk/
   
   I followed the link from the confluence site:
   http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Get+Source+Code
  
 
 
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Adobe comment on ASC-3136?

2009-11-02 Thread Matt Chotin
It's deferred for a future Player from what I can tell. We know it's important 
to folks though.

Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity or typos.

On Nov 2, 2009, at 1:56 AM, Gregor Kiddie 
gkid...@inpses.co.ukmailto:gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:


Anyone from Adobe want to comment on the closing of the issue on Proxies?
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3136http://bugs.adobe.com/http://adobe.com/jira/browse/ASC-3136

It got changed to deferred then closed, and no-one updated the comments with 
why!

With 110 votes, it’s a relatively hot topic.

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343
Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK

Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.ukblocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact 
is.helpd...@inps.co.ukhttp://inps.co.uk





Re: [flexcoders] Adobe comment on ASC-3136?

2009-11-02 Thread Matt Chotin
Well, it's what Closed/Deferred means but I'll see.

Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity or typos.

On Nov 2, 2009, at 7:02 AM, Gregor Kiddie 
gkid...@inpses.co.ukmailto:gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:


Cheers Matt,

Is it possible to have an Adobe employee comment on the issue with something 
along those lines? Just for those folks who don’t frequent this list but who 
are watching the issue.

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343
Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK

Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.ukblocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact 
is.helpd...@inps.co.ukhttp://inps.co.uk


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comhttp://ups.com 
[mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Chotin
Sent: 02 November 2009 14:49
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comhttp://ups.com
Cc: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Adobe comment on ASC-3136?


It's deferred for a future Player from what I can tell. We know it's important 
to folks though.

Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity or typos.






Re: [flexcoders] Free Flash :-D

2009-10-23 Thread Matt Chotin
I'm not sure what we're doing with Catalyst, but Builder will maintain  
it (you'll have to re-register).

Matt

On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Wally Kolcz wrote:

 Any Adobe people out there to answer this? I am lucky to work for a  
 University and recieved a free copy of Flex Builder 3. Will there be  
 a same program for Flash Builder 4 and/or Flash Catalyst? Just  
 wondering. Heard a rumor from my Adobe contact about Flash Builder,  
 but was wondering if anyone else heard anything or about Catslyst.  
 Thanks!

 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Hot news! Adobe Opens iPhone to Flash Developers

2009-10-05 Thread Matt Chotin
Hi All,

Flex on iPhone is potentially possible via Slider on the future. See more on 
Slider at
 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flex/mobile/ 
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flex/mobile/

The pages on Labs have all the info we can share? But the faqs are pretty big.

Matt

Sent from my phone. Please excuse brevity or typos.

On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:41 PM, oneworld95 
oneworl...@yahoo.commailto:oneworl...@yahoo.com wrote:



I'm very curious as to how this applies to Flex. The article didn't mention 
that, but like you said, maybe someone from Adobe will add something to the 
discussion and stop keeping us in suspense!

It can be a revolution for Flex developers.

-Alex C

--- In 
flexcod...@yahoogromailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comups.comhttp://ups.com,
 napearson99 napearso...@... wrote:

 I hope someone from adobe can chime in here.

 Here's my take. Flex is just a framework built on AS3. This middleware 
 compiler should be able to compile Flex AS3 code into native iPhone code no 
 problem.

 The new framework should also help reduce the weight of your app and make it 
 run faster.

 This is really great news. Our skills just got a lot more valuable today.

 --- In 
 flexcod...@yahoogromailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comups.comhttp://ups.com,
  oneworld95 oneworld95@ wrote:
 
  You're welcome. My boss owns an iPhone and wants everything we build to run 
  on it. So I've been hunting high and low for any way to run Flash on the 
  iPhone without a jailbreak.
 
  Some wording from the press release caught my eye: The Apple iPhone SDK 
  license terms do not allow runtime interpreted code, so Adobe is not able 
  to deliver Flash Player in Safari on the iPhone without support from Apple. 
  Applications for the iPhone built with Adobe Flash Professional CS5 do not 
  include any runtime interpreted code.
 
  So the apps built with CS5 will not include any runtime interpreted code. 
  Not sure what that means for Flex developers. Is that good/bad/indifferent?
 
  - Alex C
 
  --- In 
  flexcod...@yahoogromailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comups.comhttp://ups.com,
   Vivian Richard kanpsack@ wrote:
  
   Wow!!! Thanks for sharing the news. I also found this link in
   that news :
  
   http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashcs5/appsfor_iphone/ 
   http://labs.adobe.com/http://adobe.com/technologies/flashcs5/appsfor_iphone/
  
  
  
  
   On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:25 PM, oneworld95 oneworld95@ wrote:
  
   
   
This Adobe press release suggests that developers can build Flash apps
(Flash CS5) for the iPhone:
http://eon.businesswire.com/portal/site/eon/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_viewnewsId=20091005006358newsLang=en
 
http://eon.businesswire.com/portal/site/eon/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_viewnewsId=20091005006358newsLang=en
   
Does this mean Flash Builder 4/Flex 4 will support the iPhone at some
point?
   
- Alex C
   
   
   
  
 






[flexcoders] Carl Tanner?

2009-09-16 Thread Matt Chotin
Carl, if you're on here my reply to you was bounced as it didn't  
recognize your domain.  Please contact me again, hopefully with a  
known working email :-)


Re: [flexcoders] Re: Is Adobe Customer Support (or worse yet adobe) falling apart

2009-09-15 Thread Matt Chotin
I've already forwarded the request along.

On Sep 15, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Nick Collins wrote:

 I'd probably try to contact Robert Christensen or Mike Chambers  
 about the AIR beta.


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Jim Hayes j...@primalpictures.com  
 wrote:


 Mmmm, just taken me 3/4 hour to get though after a wait of 2 weeks  
 odd for a reply on the support portal which asked me to ring.
 I've been told that AIR is a free product and outside their remit  
 to provide support on my issue.
 The perfectly nice guy was unable to give me any help on where to  
 take it from there, so I've just had to continue with the online  
 thing.

 Well, I do support myself and appreciate the difficulties even for a  
 small company, but just the same...

 In case any wonderful Flexcoders people have any experience of this  
 one, I'll fling it out here - any ideas gratefully received!
 (for what it's worth, I think it's most likely something to do with  
 me the SDK used for compilation (probably 3.2 but I'd need to  
 check), but could be very wrong there)

 On a related point - anyone know who to speak to getting to be an  
 AIR beta tester?
 I've requested it online specifically and each time I've done the  
 AIR reditribution agreement - never heard anything.
 In this particular case AIR was updated pretty well right on our  
 shipping date and I had no time to resolve it - I've I'd been  
 testing before the release I might have caught and fixed it first.
 We normally release a disk every month or so, so it's an ongoing  
 issue, however.

 --

 Friday, 7 August 2009 11:53:35 o'clock BST
 Following the recent update to AIR runtime 1.5.2 I'm experiencing  
 some issues with the built in app updater on windows platforms tha
 t I've not seen prior to this release.
 I'm using flash.desktop.Updater.Updater.update() directly on a  
 downloaded .air update package.

 on windows Vista and windows 7, the update runs , but suffers a GUI  
 freeze and eventually needs to be forcibly stopped via task mana
 ger.
 The new update is actually installed, but it seems that there is  
 some difficulty after that, I'm guessing with removing temp files c
 reated in that process.
 I've attached a copy of .airappinstall.log taken after force  
 quitting the update installer (Which had run for twenty minutes -  
 norma
 ly it would be complete in one or two)

 on WIndows XP, everything appears to be fine, but a temp file is  
 left in [installDirectory]\META-INF\AIR.
 This is also the case in vista/7, upon inspection this temp file  
 contains our publisherID.
 Unfortunately, if you uninstall the application then this temp file  
 gets left behind, meaning a subsequent install of the applicatio
 n is unable to install to the same directory unless you manually  
 delete this stray temp file.

 Unfortunately, when I create a very basic app to demonstrate the  
 problem everything seems to work fine - I only seem to be getting t
 his on our somewhat larger commercial products.

 Any ideas? Where do I go from here?

 Let me know if there is any more information I can provide that  
 would be helpful

 Many thanks,
 regards,
 Jim Hayes



 -Original Message-
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of hank williams
 Sent: Fri 9/11/2009 7:43 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Is Adobe Customer Support (or worse  
 yet adobe) falling apart

 I have to go out now and so cant leave the phone off hook. But 1hr  
 15mins
 with no response. I am sure it would have been many more hours.

 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM, hank williams hank...@gmail.com  
 wrote:

  Starting now. I dont have 3 hours again but lets see how far we  
 get...
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM, turbo_vb timh...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
  US - 800-833-6687.
 
 
  -TH
 
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com,  
 hank
  williams hank...@... wrote:
  
   By the way, adobe admits there is a problem, so if you got that  
 kind of
   response, I promise it is not normal.
  
   see: http://www.adobe.com/support/open_letter_to_adobe_customers/
  
   On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:09 PM, hank williams hank...@...  
 wrote:
  
what country are you in... and if US, what number did you dial?
   
   
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, turbo_vb timh...@... wrote:
   
   
   
Sounds like you're not having very good luck Hank. As an  
 interesting
coincidence, I had to contact Adobe customer service today  
 to resolve
  an
issue. I just switched from PC to Mac and at the same time  
 upgraded
  from CS3
to CS4. My issue was that the upgrade wouldn't recognize my  
 previous
product's serial number, because it was on a different  
 platform. I
  went to
the Adobe site, clicked the support button, selected my  
 country and
  called
the 800 number. They answered after 5 minutes. Pretty good  
 compared
  to 3
hours. The initial rep 

Re: [flexcoders] Admin/Moderator

2009-09-14 Thread Matt Chotin
mail flexcoders-ow...@yahoogroups.com

On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:40 AM, stldvd wrote:

 Sorry for this off-topic post but does anyone know who the moderator  
 is for this board and how to reach them? I received an email  
 response to one of my posts about five days ago from a new member,  
 but they still apparently haven't been granted access.

 Thanks.

 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] anonymous access to bugs.adobe.com gone?

2009-09-14 Thread Matt Chotin
This is temporary as we've been trying to diagnose some of the  
significant slowdowns we've been seeing on the bug system.  As we  
resolve the performance issues we'll try to get all the functionality  
back.

Matt

On Sep 14, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Sam Lai wrote:

 I can't seem to access bugs.adobe.com without signing up for an
 account anymore. I used to be able to browse and search for bugs, but
 now all I'm getting is a login required message.

 There is still a message in there that says I should be able to search
 without registration, so I hope this is a temporary configuration
 fault.

 Can anyone else access it without logging in?
 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Is Flex 3.4 DMV source in wrong place?

2009-09-11 Thread Matt Chotin
I think we may have just extracted to the frameworks dir for  
convenience. Yes, you may need to fix up your source path in the  
datavisualization.swc in the library path, but that shouldn't be too  
hard.  I don't think we'll re-package the ZIP at this point, but can  
look into fixing things for 3.5 (which is a ways away).

Matt

On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:46 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote:

 On Friday 11 Sep 2009, tntomek wrote:
  You can do that :O Does he have a public email address or were you
  referring to posting on Flexteam/Matts blog?

 http://bit.ly/7X5IB

 -- 
 Helping to continually industrialize architectures as part of the IT  
 team of
 the year, '09 and '08
 

 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.

 Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in  
 England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered  
 office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square,  
 Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available  
 for inspection at the registered office together with a list of  
 those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word ? 
 partner? to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or  
 consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by  
 the Solicitors Regulation Authority.

 CONFIDENTIALITY

 This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above  
 and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the  
 addressee you must not read it and must not use any information  
 contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells  
 LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have  
 received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells  
 LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500.

 For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.Halliwells.com.


 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Is Adobe Customer Support (or worse yet adobe) falling apart

2009-09-11 Thread Matt Chotin
Hi Hank,

Please mail adbec...@adobe.com and let them know what's been going  
on.  As you pointed out, we're having some transition issues, but this  
hold time is unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.

Matt

On Sep 11, 2009, at 11:43 AM, hank williams wrote:

 I have to go out now and so cant leave the phone off hook. But 1hr  
 15mins with no response. I am sure it would have been many more hours.


 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM, hank williams hank...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 Starting now. I dont have 3 hours again but lets see how far we get...


 On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM, turbo_vb timh...@aol.com wrote:

 US - 800-833-6687.



 -TH

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, hank williams hank...@... wrote:
 
  By the way, adobe admits there is a problem, so if you got that  
 kind of
  response, I promise it is not normal.
 
  see: http://www.adobe.com/support/open_letter_to_adobe_customers/
 
  On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:09 PM, hank williams hank...@... wrote:
 
   what country are you in... and if US, what number did you dial?
  
  
   On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, turbo_vb timh...@... wrote:
  
  
  
   Sounds like you're not having very good luck Hank. As an  
 interesting
   coincidence, I had to contact Adobe customer service today to  
 resolve an
   issue. I just switched from PC to Mac and at the same time  
 upgraded from CS3
   to CS4. My issue was that the upgrade wouldn't recognize my  
 previous
   product's serial number, because it was on a different  
 platform. I went to
   the Adobe site, clicked the support button, selected my country  
 and called
   the 800 number. They answered after 5 minutes. Pretty good  
 compared to 3
   hours. The initial rep took my info and had to transfer me to  
 another rep to
   resolve my issue. The second time on hold took 7 minutes. The  
 second rep was
   able to assist me ad resolve my issue. The entire call took 22  
 minutes;
   which for something like this is completely reasonable. Sorry  
 that you
   didn't have the same experience. But, for me, I couldn't expect  
 any better
   customer service.
  
   -TH
  
  
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders 
 %40yahoogroups.com, hank

   williams hank777@ wrote:
   
Lets conduct an experiment. What number are you calling  
 (we've called 3
times so far).
   
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Paul Andrews paul@ wrote:
   


 hank williams wrote:
 
  I wrote a blog post about this today
  (
   http://whydoeseverythingsuck.com/2009/09/is-adobe-falling-apart.html 
 )
 
  but to summarize, it appears that adobe customer service is
  essentially totally unavailable. I tried several times to  
 reach them
  for an urgent issue, and the last time waited on hold for  
 3 hours
  (after which point my cordless phone ran out of steam)  
 with no
   answer,
  just hold music.
 
  THREE HOURS
 
  They also dont respond to their support email address.
 
  This can't mean good things are happening at adobe.  
 Anyone have any
  insight?
 I can't say, but to stay on hold for three hours? It's ten  
 minutes max
 for me, then try again.
 
  Hank
  --
  blog: whydoeseverythingsuck.com http://whydoeseverythingsuck.com 
 


   
   
   
--
blog: whydoeseverythingsuck.com
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
   --

   blog: whydoeseverythingsuck.com
  
 
 
 
  --
  blog: whydoeseverythingsuck.com
 




 -- 
 blog: whydoeseverythingsuck.com



 -- 
 blog: whydoeseverythingsuck.com

 





--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links

* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/

* Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

* To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

* To change settings via email:
mailto:flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex DMV 3.4.0

2009-08-28 Thread Matt Chotin
I've posted more about the 3.4 update here: 
http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/archives/2009/08/status_of_flex_data_visualizat.html


On 8/28/09 2:59 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote:





 On Thursday 27 Aug 2009, Doug McCune wrote:
 Entering your license key into FB was supposed to automatically run the
 extraction too (although sometimes this didn't work and you had to manually
 run the extraction to get at the source). But yeah, now it seems like you
 just download the 3.4 DMV zip file from the official adobe website.

I've not seen anything officially public (like on the Flex Team blog), but
I've spoken to people and it's the real deal.

Maybe I should have been more gushing about it when I blogged this
yesterday :-)


Re: [flexcoders] Re: Will Flex Builder be updated with 3.4 SDK release?

2009-08-26 Thread Matt Chotin
We are not releasing an updated Flex Builder, but the DMV download is available 
from http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=flex3sdk

FB3 unfortunately won't support 3.5 since they broke something on us last 
minute, you'll need to use the FB4 beta for that.

Matt


On 8/26/09 3:12 PM, tntomek tnto...@yahoo.com wrote:





--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
tntomek tnto...@... wrote:

 Also will DMV be updated with 3.4 as well?

 It would be really nice to have native Eclipse 3.5 installer.

 Looking forward to the updated reliability (fingers crossed) in 3.4 SDK


Thx for link but no mention of DMV or Eclipse 3.5 support. Since Fx4 has been 
pushed to 2010 it would seem odd not to include a FB update in over a year if 
even just to make the installer happy. Any idea is 3.4 will be the last update 
to 3.x?







[flexcoders] Looking for Flex Developers to participate in research study

2009-08-14 Thread Matt Chotin
Hey all,

Adobe is conducting a User Research study to learn more about the work flows
of Flex Developers. If you are currently working with Flex in a
professional capacity we would really like to hear from you.

If you are interested in providing Adobe with feedback about your use of
Flex and other Adobe products, please click on the link below and complete
our survey. Adobe will be in contact with you if you align with our target
characteristics.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Y0TZW9_2fG_2btX8vFDqXWFnog_3d_3d

Thanks!
Matt



Re: [flexcoders] This mailing list vs the forum.

2009-08-14 Thread Matt Chotin
You can assume that we have this as an issue on our private contract-based 
forums with them.  I know I've talked to them about it.  WE at least got the 
replies to work in most email clients by getting rid of the stupid [xxx] suffix 
on each.


On 8/14/09 8:43 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote:





 On Friday 14 Aug 2009, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
  the lack of correct headers to allow threading.
 Will be fixed when hell freezes over:
 http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/thread/50602

The hell ... !?!


Re: [flexcoders] Does it required to have Licenced Version of LCDS for Clustering

2009-07-29 Thread Matt Chotin
Hi, yes you are required to have a paid license of LCDS if you expect to do 
clustering.

Matt


On 7/29/09 11:32 AM, Dharmendra Chauhan chauhan_i...@yahoo.com wrote:





Hi,
 I am bit confused on LCDS products. I have downloaded trial version and trying 
to replicate DataService's Destination.

Does it required to buy licensed veresion of LCDS  to DataServive Destination 
replication ?

My req is If serverA is down then user should immedialtely get connected to 
serverB with the same state as It was on  serverA.

Regards,
Dharmendra







Re: [flexcoders] Frustrating examples from ADOBE

2009-07-28 Thread Matt Chotin
This is something we're looking to address, there are a lot of places that link 
to old pages and we don't want them to break, but we do want to find a way for 
search results to be more relevant.  This is one thing we hope to accomplish 
with the community help search capabilities, see if initiating the search from 
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex for example helps.

Matt


On 7/28/09 6:17 PM, hworke kanps...@gmail.com wrote:






It is really exciting when you are looking for a
solution and suddenly find a perfect example in a
Adobe page- but guess how you will feel if it does
not work?

Every time I am searching for something like Adobe air
html this following link show up on top of my search

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Apollo:Articles:Using_HTML_in_Flex-based_Apollo_Applications

It has example and it does not work!! Why Adobe?
Why keeping the examples those do not work. These just
eat up our energy and time! So FRUSTRATING







Re: [flexcoders] (SOT) Opportunity for FB ? (Hey! Adobe !)

2009-06-19 Thread Matt Chotin
We considered this when choosing a bug system for bugs.adobe.com and decided 
the investment wasn't really worth it to us. It's certainly good if someone 
else wants to take it on, but at least 3 years ago if I recall correctly 
bugzilla didn't really have services that you could build a ui around.

Matt

Sent from a phone, pardon the brevity or typos.


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri Jun 19 06:27:33 2009
Subject: [flexcoders] (SOT) Opportunity for FB ? (Hey! Adobe !)



I've been reading up on Bugzilla and it is frequently mentioned that its UI is 
not the most intuitive or easy to use in the world.

Well if one needs an improved UI experience,  is not FB the answer!?  Well 
really, the SDK in this case.  Although, I guess, anything you do in FB, 
outside of the data visualization, can be updated in the SDK, right?

Is this a good opportunity for Adobe to greatly improve an open source tool 
with their open source solution?  To me,  it seems like there is significant 
opportunity to show off many of the features of 4.x. in a highly targeted 
market.

Anyway, just a thought, maybe I'm way off base.  (Then again, I'm always late 
to the party with the flexcoders group,  so maybe somebody is already working 
on it).   However, if you do decide to do it, Adobe, see if you can add some 
built in integration with Subversion (in keeping with being a major contributor 
to the open source community).

brad




Re: [flexcoders] Adobe Bug System - Please explain the internal Found in Version numbers

2009-06-17 Thread Matt Chotin
Yeah, this is a problem, we're sorry :-)  DMV generally stands for the release, 
you should use 3.0.2 in this case I think.  We'll be working on cleaning this 
up and maybe we can do a better job with versions moving forward.

I12 is the iterations for current development, so stuff going into Flex 4.

Matt


On 6/17/09 11:12 AM, EddieBerman eddieberman2...@hotmail.com wrote:






When adding new bugs to the Adobe Bug System (chart bugs in my case), I'm never 
entirely clear as to what version to use from those offered in the drop-down. 
I'd like to use, for example, SDK 3.3.0, but that's not one of the choices.

I have no idea what I12, I12, DMV 3.0.2, DMV 3.4.0, etc, are so I leave the 
field blank, and then note my SDK version in the Steps To Reproduce. I've 
searched for clues, but can't find one.

I suspect I'm not the only one dealing with this. Thanks in advance for 
deciphering the list.

Cheers,
Eddie B.







Re: [flexcoders] ADG and Flex 4

2009-05-18 Thread Matt Chotin
You'll need to wait for when the beta comes out that includes the 
Gumbo-compatible ADG.  That will be some time in June.

Matt


On 5/18/09 10:02 AM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2...@yahoo.com wrote:






Sorry for bringing this up again but I need to try out an ADG working in Gumbo. 
I have multiple applications built around ADGs. I have been researching Web 
very intensively but could find even one working example. I have posted to 
Gumbo Forum at Adobe but had no respond. Can someone please either provide a 
code sample that works or confirm that I am just trying to get it work ahead of 
time when the product is ready?

Thanks for help.







Re: [flexcoders] What version of AIR is req'd to run Flex 4 Gumbo?

2009-05-17 Thread Matt Chotin
Flex 4 will ship with and support AIR 1.5.  AIR runtime includes the Flash 
Player, AIR 1.5 is including Player 10.  If you check the Gumbo Language 
Reference (I think the public version, but if not, the version that will come 
out with the beta) you'll see that we've started including information on what 
version of the runtime various APIs support, etc.

Matt


On 5/17/09 1:14 PM, Tracy Spratt tr...@nts3rd.com wrote:






I am going to be doing a significant project in AIR, and would like to use the 
Flex 4 features.

Will AIR 1.5 support all of the gumbo stuff?  My reading suggests yes, but I 
would like confirmation.

And a related question, Does the AIR runtime use the Flash Player, or is there 
any relation between a Flash Player version and an AIR version?

I'm afraid I have not been paying as much attention to AIR as I perhaps should.

Tracy Spratt,
Lariat Services, development services available







Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Framework Cache Statistics

2009-05-14 Thread Matt Chotin
Hi,

We are not publishing data on this right now, but in general adoption of the 
cached framework appears to be going well.

Matt
Flex team


On 5/14/09 5:10 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:






good question.
I would also like to know

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Nayan 
Savla nayansa...@... wrote:

 Hi All,

 I am just wondering if there is some data on the percentage of Flash
 players which would already have a the flex framework cache. Our
 application without the cache is 456Kb and when i use framework
 caching its 256Kb and the swz file is around 500kb.

 In this scenario if the user doesn't already have the framework
 cached, it won't make any sense to use framework caching. We don't
 have a high percentage of returning users yet.

 So if there is any data which gives an idea about the percentage of
 Flash players out there with the Flex framework cache, it will be
 really helpful.

 Thank you
 Nayan








[flexcoders] Are you using the Marshall Plan?

2009-05-06 Thread Matt Chotin
Are you building apps in a modular fashion where those modules need to
support different Flex versions?  Do you have nightmares where Alex is
explaining SecurityDomains and ApplicationDomains and
SWFLoader.loadForCompatibility?

Please let me know (email me at mcho...@adobe.com), we're trying to evaluate
some pain points and whether I need to bribe the Player team to solve them
ASAP or if it can wait a release.

Matt



Re: [flexcoders] Are you using the Marshall Plan?

2009-05-06 Thread Matt Chotin
I wouldn't say there's an exact methodology.  We have some elements of agile 
(like iterations, unit tests, ability to respond to feedback and adjust), but 
as a platform we also need to make sure we have specifications, assigned 
Quality Engineers, schedules, etc.  So if you're looking for we use scrum you 
won't get that, it's a combination of practices necessary for a team that works 
with a large number of stakeholders.

Matt


On 5/6/09 12:10 PM, Vivian Richard kanps...@gmail.com wrote:






   Matt just a question regarding your software development process-
 what exact methodology do you guys(you flex team) follow to develop
 the Flex platform?

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Matt Chotin mcho...@adobe.com 
mailto:mchotin%40adobe.com  wrote:


 Are you building apps in a modular fashion where those modules need to
 support different Flex versions? Do you have nightmares where Alex is
 explaining SecurityDomains and ApplicationDomains and
 SWFLoader.loadForCompatibility?

 Please let me know (email me at mcho...@adobe.com 
 mailto:mchotin%40adobe.com ), we're trying to evaluate
 some pain points and whether I need to bribe the Player team to solve them
 ASAP or if it can wait a release.

 Matt








Re: [flexcoders] Re: Are you using the Marshall Plan?

2009-05-06 Thread Matt Chotin
You are definitely a candidate for the Marshall Plan since you are trying to 
avoid recompiling modules.  However, it sounds like in your current setup you 
would need to recompile.  Please make sure to check out the docs at 
http://www.adobe.com/go/learn_flex_loading_applications_en

Matt


On 5/6/09 5:23 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:






Our current Modules are all in sdk 3.3
So far all is good.

We hope that if we decide to introduce modules later down the track the were 
solely built using sdk 4+ that this would not be painful.

We hope that we will not have to use the 4+ sdk to compile our 3.3 modules 
against in this scenario?

Have I been to vague? even if this is not the issue you were directly referring 
to?

Thanks,

Bjorn

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 I wouldn't say there's an exact methodology.  We have some elements of agile 
 (like iterations, unit tests, ability to respond to feedback and adjust), but 
 as a platform we also need to make sure we have specifications, assigned 
 Quality Engineers, schedules, etc.  So if you're looking for we use scrum 
 you won't get that, it's a combination of practices necessary for a team that 
 works with a large number of stakeholders.

 Matt


 On 5/6/09 12:10 PM, Vivian Richard kanps...@... wrote:






Matt just a question regarding your software development process-
  what exact methodology do you guys(you flex team) follow to develop
  the Flex platform?

 On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Matt Chotin mcho...@... 
 mailto:mchotin%40adobe.com  wrote:
 
 
  Are you building apps in a modular fashion where those modules need to
  support different Flex versions? Do you have nightmares where Alex is
  explaining SecurityDomains and ApplicationDomains and
  SWFLoader.loadForCompatibility?
 
  Please let me know (email me at mcho...@... mailto:mchotin%40adobe.com ), 
  we're trying to evaluate
  some pain points and whether I need to bribe the Player team to solve them
  ASAP or if it can wait a release.
 
  Matt
 
 








Re: [flexcoders] Flashcamp East Coast?

2009-05-05 Thread Matt Chotin
Keep an eye on your local user groups...


On 5/5/09 1:54 PM, Rick Winscot rick.wins...@zyche.com wrote:






Just wondering if ppl at Adobe are planning on spreading some Flashcamp 
sweetness on the East Coast any time soon... are our only option(s) May 29th in 
San Francisco?

Rick Winscot






Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder on Linux been scrapped ?

2009-04-30 Thread Matt Chotin
I'm going to continue to stay out of the fray, but just to be clear, that 
conversation is about Flex Builder, not the SDK.  We will always support 
developers on Linux, it's a question of what we tools beyond the SDK we provide.

We'll be looking to share more information on our plans in a few weeks.

Matt


On 4/30/09 4:44 PM, Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:






Wouldn't you still be able to build your own IDE using the free SDK? As I 
understand it a lot of people do this now to avoid having to buy FB, and I 
imagine Linux users would be relatively common within that group.

If sales for a linux version of FB are too low to justify the ongoing cost of 
development, you can hardly blame Adobe for that. Their support for *nix is 
better than most.

Guy


On 01/05/2009, at 9:35 AM, john fisher wrote:




If Adobe drops Linux support for Flex, then I will probably drop Flex.

I won't maintain a Windows or Mac box at home, and my company really
doesn't want to invest in any more Windows apps. I don't want to invest
myself in technology I can't run independently of whoever I happen to be
working for today. Seeing the fickleness of the corporate owners of
development tools is what sent us to Linux and open source tools in the
first place. We can't bet our products on some whim of Adobe. My current
all-Linux proof-of-concept project will be blown out of the water, and
I'll have to get up to speed on Java.

-grieving already

John

and at a time when Linux is gnawing away at laptop market from below and
the desktop market is dying...








Re: [flexcoders] Re: Signed RSL penetration

2009-04-24 Thread Matt Chotin
Yes, that's what it means unfortunately.  I don't have a info on timing, it's 
really up to them.


On 4/24/09 12:51 AM, Kenneth Sutherland kenneth.sutherl...@realise.com 
wrote:







Does that mean that any swf you create that uses the flex framework RSLs are 
not going to get indexed by Google.
I've created a very simple placeholder page (single front page with just a few 
text boxes and a link) and as usual I make the framework into a RSL(total 
overkill in this situation, but I like to do it as standard). So I've just 
checked the site using googles search and its showing the 'Error #2032. RSL 
Error 1 of 1.' in the listing of search results.

If so any ideas what is Googles timescale on indexing sites that use RSLs.

Cheers.


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Matt Chotin
Sent: 23 April 2009 01:38
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Signed RSL penetration






This is due to Google not yet executing network requests from the SWF.  
Something that they're working on.

Matt


On 4/21/09 11:19 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@gmail.com wrote:






Apart from the size matter, we encounter the problem for Google engine working 
with signed RSL matter , the result of Google Serach for the website that use 
signed RSL with Error #2032. RSL Error 1 of 1. Any comments for this

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 We're hosting the RSLs starting with Flex 4, you'll see them hosted in the 
 public beta.

 When we feel comfortable with the RSL penetration stats as far as being 
 consistent and accurate and explainable we'll begin publishing them.

 Matt


 On 4/21/09 11:01 PM, Steve Mathews happy...@... wrote:






 No offence was intended, I was trying to state that as a selling point. The 
 number of users who already have the SWZs should be icing, the real substance 
 should be the benifit to every user visiting your site/app. Obviously if you 
 only expect users to visit once or twice the benifit doesn't work out.

 The problem with Adobe including the files with the first install is that 
 there are new files for each update of the Flex Framework. I am currently on 
 my third set of SWZs in my production environment. I would like to see Adobe 
 host the files as an added benifit to using them.

 I would also be interested in seeing some stats on the number of installed 
 players that have one or more SWZs cached as it would be additional info to 
 help sell the idea to clients.

 Steve

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Guy Morton g...@... wrote:


 Yes, I know how it works...my point is that it's hard to sell to my current 
 clients if for most it's going to translate into a bigger download for first 
 time users.

 This is why stats as to how many users are likely to already have the 
 different versions of the RSLs would be handy.

 I realise this is probably strategically sensitive for Adobe as they want to 
 encourage use of RSLs as it improves the Flex download size story longer term.

 Someone made the suggestion somewhere that when users upgrade or install the 
 player, Adobe ought to download and install all the current RSLs as well. 
 That seems a very sensible idea to me.

 Even if they were a separate download available at the time (or available as 
 a Flash player professional version) it would be better than forcing 
 developers distributing apps to do it. We have app size as an imperative that 
 we have to work with.

 Guy

 On 22/04/2009, at 4:19 AM, Steve Mathews wrote:




 It would only be bigger the first download (assuming the user has 9.0.115.0 
 or later). After that it would be smaller each time.


 Steve

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Guy Morton g...@... wrote:


 Well...yes, it's great if I do it...for the community n'all...but my users 
 *are* sensitive to the download size.

 If it were the same size either way, of course I would do it (as would 
 everyone) but the fact that it's BIGGER as RSLs means I bet LOTS of 
 developers DON'T do it, hence my question...

 Guy


 On 21/04/2009, at 6:19 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote:






 On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009, g...@... wrote:
  Maybe it's worth doing if 50%+ of users will get the benefit, but if
  only 10% will benefit it seems unlikely to be a way to increase the
  general happiness.

 I think you are looking at it wrong. Assuming 200k is nothing on a modern
 connection - I don't know anything about your users of course :-)
 With RSL you either load quicker (win) or have to download app+RSL (same as
 non-RSL), plus you have the benefit of making your (and others !) future RSL
 deployments more likely to be win.


 --
 Helping to synergistically streamline proactive cross-platform seamless
 ubiquitous interfaces as part of the IT team of the year, '09 and '08


 Tom Chiverton
 Developer
 Tel: +44 0161 618 5032
 Fax: +44 0161 618 5099
 tom.chiver...@...

 3 Hardman Square, Manchester, M3 3EB

Re: [flexcoders] Signed RSL penetration

2009-04-22 Thread Matt Chotin
We're hosting the RSLs starting with Flex 4, you'll see them hosted in the 
public beta.

When we feel comfortable with the RSL penetration stats as far as being 
consistent and accurate and explainable we'll begin publishing them.

Matt


On 4/21/09 11:01 PM, Steve Mathews happy...@gmail.com wrote:






No offence was intended, I was trying to state that as a selling point. The 
number of users who already have the SWZs should be icing, the real substance 
should be the benifit to every user visiting your site/app. Obviously if you 
only expect users to visit once or twice the benifit doesn't work out.

The problem with Adobe including the files with the first install is that there 
are new files for each update of the Flex Framework. I am currently on my third 
set of SWZs in my production environment. I would like to see Adobe host the 
files as an added benifit to using them.

I would also be interested in seeing some stats on the number of installed 
players that have one or more SWZs cached as it would be additional info to 
help sell the idea to clients.

Steve

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:


Yes, I know how it works...my point is that it's hard to sell to my current 
clients if for most it's going to translate into a bigger download for first 
time users.

This is why stats as to how many users are likely to already have the different 
versions of the RSLs would be handy.

I realise this is probably strategically sensitive for Adobe as they want to 
encourage use of RSLs as it improves the Flex download size story longer term.

Someone made the suggestion somewhere that when users upgrade or install the 
player, Adobe ought to download and install all the current RSLs as well. That 
seems a very sensible idea to me.

Even if they were a separate download available at the time (or available as a 
Flash player professional version) it would be better than forcing developers 
distributing apps to do it. We have app size as an imperative that we have to 
work with.

Guy

On 22/04/2009, at 4:19 AM, Steve Mathews wrote:




It would only be bigger the first download (assuming the user has 9.0.115.0 or 
later). After that it would be smaller each time.


Steve

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:


Well...yes, it's great if I do it...for the community n'all...but my users 
*are* sensitive to the download size.

If it were the same size either way, of course I would do it (as would 
everyone) but the fact that it's BIGGER as RSLs means I bet LOTS of developers 
DON'T do it, hence my question...

Guy


On 21/04/2009, at 6:19 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote:






On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009, g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:
 Maybe it's worth doing if 50%+ of users will get the benefit, but if
 only 10% will benefit it seems unlikely to be a way to increase the
 general happiness.

I think you are looking at it wrong. Assuming 200k is nothing on a modern
connection - I don't know anything about your users of course :-)
With RSL you either load quicker (win) or have to download app+RSL (same as
non-RSL), plus you have the benefit of making your (and others !) future RSL
deployments more likely to be win.


--
Helping to synergistically streamline proactive cross-platform seamless
ubiquitous interfaces as part of the IT team of the year, '09 and '08


Tom Chiverton
Developer
Tel: +44 0161 618 5032
Fax: +44 0161 618 5099
tom.chiver...@halliwells.com

3 Hardman Square, Manchester, M3 3EB
www.Halliwells.com http://www.halliwells.com/


This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.

Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and 
Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at 
Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of 
members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a 
list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word 
?partner? to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with 
equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation 
Authority.

CONFIDENTIALITY

This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be 
confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not 
read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform 
any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or 
contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify 
Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500.

For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.Halliwells.com 
http://www.halliwells.com/ .

















Re: [flexcoders] Signed RSL penetration

2009-04-22 Thread Matt Chotin
The numbers are actually pretty big, which means that folks are more likely to 
question them and I want to make sure that we're really right, and that I can 
understand adoption trends over time, etc.

Matt


On 4/22/09 4:23 PM, Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:






Is consistent and accurate and explainable code for big enough numbers? ;-)


On 22/04/2009, at 4:10 PM, Matt Chotin wrote:




We're hosting the RSLs starting with Flex 4, you'll see them hosted in the 
public beta.

When we feel comfortable with the RSL penetration stats as far as being 
consistent and accurate and explainable we'll begin publishing them.

Matt


On 4/21/09 11:01 PM, Steve Mathews happy...@gmail.com wrote:






No offence was intended, I was trying to state that as a selling point. The 
number of users who already have the SWZs should be icing, the real substance 
should be the benifit to every user visiting your site/app. Obviously if you 
only expect users to visit once or twice the benifit doesn't work out.

The problem with Adobe including the files with the first install is that there 
are new files for each update of the Flex Framework. I am currently on my third 
set of SWZs in my production environment. I would like to see Adobe host the 
files as an added benifit to using them.

I would also be interested in seeing some stats on the number of installed 
players that have one or more SWZs cached as it would be additional info to 
help sell the idea to clients.

Steve

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:


Yes, I know how it works...my point is that it's hard to sell to my current 
clients if for most it's going to translate into a bigger download for first 
time users.

This is why stats as to how many users are likely to already have the different 
versions of the RSLs would be handy.

I realise this is probably strategically sensitive for Adobe as they want to 
encourage use of RSLs as it improves the Flex download size story longer term.

Someone made the suggestion somewhere that when users upgrade or install the 
player, Adobe ought to download and install all the current RSLs as well. That 
seems a very sensible idea to me.

Even if they were a separate download available at the time (or available as a 
Flash player professional version) it would be better than forcing developers 
distributing apps to do it. We have app size as an imperative that we have to 
work with.

Guy

On 22/04/2009, at 4:19 AM, Steve Mathews wrote:




It would only be bigger the first download (assuming the user has 9.0.115.0 or 
later). After that it would be smaller each time.


Steve

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:


Well...yes, it's great if I do it...for the community n'all...but my users 
*are* sensitive to the download size.

If it were the same size either way, of course I would do it (as would 
everyone) but the fact that it's BIGGER as RSLs means I bet LOTS of developers 
DON'T do it, hence my question...

Guy


On 21/04/2009, at 6:19 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote:






On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009, g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:
 Maybe it's worth doing if 50%+ of users will get the benefit, but if
 only 10% will benefit it seems unlikely to be a way to increase the
 general happiness.

I think you are looking at it wrong. Assuming 200k is nothing on a modern
connection - I don't know anything about your users of course :-)
With RSL you either load quicker (win) or have to download app+RSL (same as
non-RSL), plus you have the benefit of making your (and others !) future RSL
deployments more likely to be win.



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Signed RSL penetration

2009-04-22 Thread Matt Chotin
This is due to Google not yet executing network requests from the SWF.  
Something that they're working on.

Matt


On 4/21/09 11:19 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@gmail.com wrote:






Apart from the size matter, we encounter the problem for Google engine working 
with signed RSL matter , the result of Google Serach for the website that use 
signed RSL with Error #2032. RSL Error 1 of 1. Any comments for this

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 We're hosting the RSLs starting with Flex 4, you'll see them hosted in the 
 public beta.

 When we feel comfortable with the RSL penetration stats as far as being 
 consistent and accurate and explainable we'll begin publishing them.

 Matt


 On 4/21/09 11:01 PM, Steve Mathews happy...@... wrote:






 No offence was intended, I was trying to state that as a selling point. The 
 number of users who already have the SWZs should be icing, the real substance 
 should be the benifit to every user visiting your site/app. Obviously if you 
 only expect users to visit once or twice the benifit doesn't work out.

 The problem with Adobe including the files with the first install is that 
 there are new files for each update of the Flex Framework. I am currently on 
 my third set of SWZs in my production environment. I would like to see Adobe 
 host the files as an added benifit to using them.

 I would also be interested in seeing some stats on the number of installed 
 players that have one or more SWZs cached as it would be additional info to 
 help sell the idea to clients.

 Steve

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Guy Morton g...@... wrote:


 Yes, I know how it works...my point is that it's hard to sell to my current 
 clients if for most it's going to translate into a bigger download for first 
 time users.

 This is why stats as to how many users are likely to already have the 
 different versions of the RSLs would be handy.

 I realise this is probably strategically sensitive for Adobe as they want to 
 encourage use of RSLs as it improves the Flex download size story longer term.

 Someone made the suggestion somewhere that when users upgrade or install the 
 player, Adobe ought to download and install all the current RSLs as well. 
 That seems a very sensible idea to me.

 Even if they were a separate download available at the time (or available as 
 a Flash player professional version) it would be better than forcing 
 developers distributing apps to do it. We have app size as an imperative that 
 we have to work with.

 Guy

 On 22/04/2009, at 4:19 AM, Steve Mathews wrote:




 It would only be bigger the first download (assuming the user has 9.0.115.0 
 or later). After that it would be smaller each time.


 Steve

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Guy Morton g...@... wrote:


 Well...yes, it's great if I do it...for the community n'all...but my users 
 *are* sensitive to the download size.

 If it were the same size either way, of course I would do it (as would 
 everyone) but the fact that it's BIGGER as RSLs means I bet LOTS of 
 developers DON'T do it, hence my question...

 Guy


 On 21/04/2009, at 6:19 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote:






 On Tuesday 21 Apr 2009, g...@... wrote:
  Maybe it's worth doing if 50%+ of users will get the benefit, but if
  only 10% will benefit it seems unlikely to be a way to increase the
  general happiness.

 I think you are looking at it wrong. Assuming 200k is nothing on a modern
 connection - I don't know anything about your users of course :-)
 With RSL you either load quicker (win) or have to download app+RSL (same as
 non-RSL), plus you have the benefit of making your (and others !) future RSL
 deployments more likely to be win.


 --
 Helping to synergistically streamline proactive cross-platform seamless
 ubiquitous interfaces as part of the IT team of the year, '09 and '08


 Tom Chiverton
 Developer
 Tel: +44 0161 618 5032
 Fax: +44 0161 618 5099
 tom.chiver...@...

 3 Hardman Square, Manchester, M3 3EB
 www.Halliwells.com http://www.halliwells.com/
 

 This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.

 Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and 
 Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at 
 Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list 
 of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with 
 a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word 
 ?partner? to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with 
 equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors 
 Regulation Authority.

 CONFIDENTIALITY

 This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may 
 be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must 
 not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy

Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-20 Thread Matt Chotin
I'll look into us adding product names.  Not sure if the dictionary can be 
customized for personal words though.  Not sure about the misspellings of the 
common stuff, I'm checking on that though.

Matt


On 4/15/09 4:39 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote:








 On Thursday 09 Apr 2009, Matt Chotin wrote:
 I got spell check in the rich text editor to work in Firefox on the Mac,
 it's the checkbox in the upper right corner and you have to turn it on. It
 seems to run about every 20 seconds or so, not quite as instant as Firefox.

It doesn't know about all the words I've added to my local dictionary (obv.).
'wayyy' doesn't count as misspelled. Neither does 'tooo'. It's not even
pre-loaded with Adobe product names.

 We're working on updating the subject to be shorter and I'm still trying to
 investigate fixing the header which is more important than fixing the
 subject line itself.

Ace news !
And the body text will be changed to have the actual message at the top too ?


Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-20 Thread Matt Chotin
Can you provide an example of that being cut off, maybe in the forum comments: 
http://forums.adobe.com/community/general/forum_comments

Of course you may need to use html encoding or something so that the system 
allows things in :-)

Matt


On 4/15/09 7:45 PM, Paul Hastings paul.hasti...@gmail.com wrote:






Matt Chotin wrote:
 Yeah, make sure you eliminate any repeating dashes, the system parses
 them and stops reading. Some other patterns too I'm sure that I don't know.

i trim replies like a demon  lose those but it still croaks, i think, on the
quote marker  or maybe something in the header/boundary bits??

it's unpleasant for old folks who can't recall what they're replying to ;-)






Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-15 Thread Matt Chotin
We attemted to turn on the updated email format last friday. Since I'm out of 
the office I haven't looked, but give it a shot.

Matt

Sent from a phone, pardon the brevity or typos.


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed Apr 15 04:39:16 2009
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!




On Thursday 09 Apr 2009, Matt Chotin wrote:
 I got spell check in the rich text editor to work in Firefox on the Mac,
 it's the checkbox in the upper right corner and you have to turn it on. It
 seems to run about every 20 seconds or so, not quite as instant as Firefox.

It doesn't know about all the words I've added to my local dictionary (obv.).
'wayyy' doesn't count as misspelled. Neither does 'tooo'. It's not even
pre-loaded with Adobe product names.

 We're working on updating the subject to be shorter and I'm still trying to
 investigate fixing the header which is more important than fixing the
 subject line itself.

Ace news !
And the body text will be changed to have the actual message at the top too ?

--
Helping to authoritatively evolve revolutionary dot-com value-added
cross-media materials as part of the IT team of the year, '09 and '08


[http://service48.mimecast.com/mimecast/store?code=17f8a8249e46f802b971ce9b92683063file=17880134]

Tom Chiverton
Developer
Tel: +44 0161 618 5032
Fax: +44 0161 618 5099
tom.chiver...@halliwells.commailto:tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
3 Hardman Square, Manchester, M3 3EB
www.Halliwells.comhttp://www.Halliwells.com




This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.

Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and 
Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at 
Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of 
members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a 
list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word 
?partner? to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with 
equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation 
Authority.

CONFIDENTIALITY

This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be 
confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not 
read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform 
any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or 
contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify 
Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500.

For more information about Halliwells LLP visit 
www.Halliwells.comhttp://www.Halliwells.com.







Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-15 Thread Matt Chotin
Yeah, I'm hoping if we fix headers we may get that part out. However it will 
take a while for that to happen because it will likely require an update to 
Jive.

Matt

Sent from a phone, pardon the brevity or typos.


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed Apr 15 07:19:10 2009
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!




On Wednesday 15 Apr 2009, Matt Chotin wrote:
 We attemted to turn on the updated email format last friday. Since I'm out
 of the office I haven't looked, but give it a shot.

That explains the change of subject lines :-)
The body text is a lot better now, cheers !

Dropping 'New message:' is a big help (as it's obvious !), but what's the
cryptic square-bracket part for ? No other web-to-email system I use needs
this, for instance Adobe's own pre-release system.
Maybe this is because that system supports 'in-reply-to' and 'references'
headers, in which case these additions can be removed once the headers are
fixed ?

--
Helping to continually improve scalable web-enabled paradigms as part of the
IT team of the year, '09 and '08


[http://service47.mimecast.com/mimecast/store?code=17f8a8249e46f802b971ce9b92683063file=17880134]

Tom Chiverton
Developer
Tel: +44 0161 618 5032
Fax: +44 0161 618 5099
tom.chiver...@halliwells.commailto:tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
3 Hardman Square, Manchester, M3 3EB
www.Halliwells.comhttp://www.Halliwells.com




This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.

Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and 
Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at 
Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of 
members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a 
list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word 
?partner? to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with 
equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation 
Authority.

CONFIDENTIALITY

This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be 
confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not 
read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform 
any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or 
contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify 
Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500.

For more information about Halliwells LLP visit 
www.Halliwells.comhttp://www.Halliwells.com.







Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-15 Thread Matt Chotin
Yeah, make sure you eliminate any repeating dashes, the system parses them and 
stops reading. Some other patterns too I'm sure that I don't know.

Matt

Sent from a phone, pardon the brevity or typos.


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed Apr 15 10:26:30 2009
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!



Matt Chotin wrote:
 We attemted to turn on the updated email format last friday. Since I'm
 out of the office I haven't looked, but give it a shot.

the new email is cleaner but any messages replied to via email (tbird ) gets
rendered as blank if you quote the original message. unpleasant surprise.




Re: [flexcoders] Re: Suggestion to enable adobe TV to be more effective

2009-04-10 Thread Matt Chotin
Hi folks, I'll forward these to the team.

Matt


On 4/10/09 6:14 AM, valdhor valdhorli...@embarqmail.com wrote:






And a note for the developer...

I go to tv.adobe.com using Windows XP, Firefox 3.0.8 and Flash 9.0.124 debug. I 
then click on the word Flex in the top right and get this error:

TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object 
reference.
at AdobeTV_G2/loadSelectedProduct()
at AdobeTV_G2/goDirectProduct()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
at com.adobetv::DeepLinking/parseFragment()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
at mx.managers::BrowserManagerImpl/setFragment()
at com.adobetv::DeepLinking/gotoProduct()
at AdobeTV_G2/HandleProductSelection()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
at mx.core::UIComponent/dispatchEvent()
at com.adobetv.Components::HomePageList/clicked()

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Brad 
Bueche brad.bue...@... wrote:

 I may just be showing my ignorance here (and, if so, please point that out
 to me).

 1)  Enable the video's to be downloaded.

 2) Enable them to be downloaded as podcasts.

 I would imagine that a great many people do not have the
 ability/infrastructure/funds to be connected all the time.

 [Yes, this is not a code question but its the only place I know for sure
 that high level adobe peeps hang out]

 And the video's are great!

 (tv.adobe.com for those of you who are unaware of this resource)

 brad








Re: [flexcoders] Re: Suggestion to enable adobe TV to be more effective

2009-04-10 Thread Matt Chotin
Also got a note back that they'll look at the errors, but a redesign is also in 
process that will make the site more standards-based and eliminate many of the 
usability problems.

Matt


On 4/10/09 10:12 AM, Matthew Chotin mcho...@adobe.com wrote:






Hi folks, I'll forward these to the team.

Matt


On 4/10/09 6:14 AM, valdhor valdhorli...@embarqmail.com wrote:






And a note for the developer...

I go to tv.adobe.com using Windows XP, Firefox 3.0.8 and Flash 9.0.124 debug. I 
then click on the word Flex in the top right and get this error:

TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object 
reference.
at AdobeTV_G2/loadSelectedProduct()
at AdobeTV_G2/goDirectProduct()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
at com.adobetv::DeepLinking/parseFragment()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
at mx.managers::BrowserManagerImpl/setFragment()
at com.adobetv::DeepLinking/gotoProduct()
at AdobeTV_G2/HandleProductSelection()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEventFunction()
at flash.events::EventDispatcher/dispatchEvent()
at mx.core::UIComponent/dispatchEvent()
at com.adobetv.Components::HomePageList/clicked()

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Brad 
Bueche brad.bue...@... wrote:

 I may just be showing my ignorance here (and, if so, please point that out
 to me).

 1)  Enable the video's to be downloaded.

 2) Enable them to be downloaded as podcasts.

 I would imagine that a great many people do not have the
 ability/infrastructure/funds to be connected all the time.

 [Yes, this is not a code question but its the only place I know for sure
 that high level adobe peeps hang out]

 And the video's are great!

 (tv.adobe.com for those of you who are unaware of this resource)

 brad












Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-09 Thread Matt Chotin
We're working with Jive on finding a way to get NNTP working that respects the 
single sign-on of adobe.com. It's taking some time but we haven't given up.

Matt

Sent from a phone, pardon the brevity or typos.


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed Apr 08 17:36:03 2009
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.commailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Paul 
Hastings paul.hasti...@... wrote:

  As for threading, do you know which header is missing? I notice that

 speaking of bunnies:

 http://jochem.vandieten.net/2009/03/31/the-new-adobe-forums-unfulfilled-potential/


If the only thing that they have to do to enable this for nntp is replace the 
email header with an nntp header, why don't they just give us back nntp?

I'm really curious about what's been going on on the Flex forum, but not 
curious enough to put myself through a web interface or wind up with thousands 
of e.mails.





Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-09 Thread Matt Chotin
I got spell check in the rich text editor to work in Firefox on the Mac, it's 
the checkbox in the upper right corner and you have to turn it on. It seems to 
run about every 20 seconds or so, not quite as instant as Firefox.

We're working on updating the subject to be shorter and I'm still trying to 
investigate fixing the header which is more important than fixing the subject 
line itself.

Matt


On 4/9/09 1:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote:








 On Wednesday 08 Apr 2009, Matt Chotin wrote:
 I've got reply by email working from my Entourage client, which part isn't
 working for you there?

The part where it bounces back. I've posted to the forums, and it appears the
problem is intermittent (which is worse in a way !) but across many users.

 Also not sure where spell checking is going wrong?

It doesn't.
I can either have a plain text editor that works with the firefox spell check
but eats line breaks, or a rich editor that has line breaks but not spell
check.

 As for threading, do you know which header is missing?  I notice that
 threading is more difficult for me now too, but as we talk to Jive support
 I'm not sure what header I want to be enabling.  Is it in In-Reply-To?

Again, the details are in the forums, but that sounds right. You would also
need to fix the subject line and make the content just the body text, not the
other guff it has now.
Ya know, how *every other web-email system in the world works*.


Re: [flexcoders] Adobe's stimulus package!!!! FREE FLEX BUILDER!!!!

2009-04-08 Thread Matt Chotin
We have special software installed in our Nabaztags at work that inform us when 
someone is using Flex Builder in ways we don't like.  We then have web crawlers 
that go out and find the offending SWFs, hack into the web servers, and replace 
it with images of bunnies saying Silly Rabbit, you must pay for Flex Builder 
to deploy your app!

It's all very complicated and proprietary :-)

Matt


On 4/8/09 8:22 AM, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote:




How would anybody ever know?

(Before you ask I've already donated many $$ to Adobe for Flex).

Paul

- Original Message -

From:  Tom Chiverton mailto:tom.chiver...@halliwells.com

To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

Cc: Guy Morton mailto:g...@alchemy.com.au

Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 3:42  PM

Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Adobe's  stimulus package FREE FLEX BUILDER




On Saturday 04 Apr 2009, Guy Morton wrote:
  That's a good idea, Adobe. Nice work.

 On 05/04/2009, at 1:37  AM, hworke wrote:
  https://freeriatools.adobe.com/learnflex/

Note, you  can not deploy, even for free/giggles, anything written using it:
license  to use Flex Builder 3 under this program will not be used for
production


Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-08 Thread Matt Chotin
Hey Tom,

I've got reply by email working from my Entourage client, which part isn't 
working for you there?  Also not sure where spell checking is going wrong?

As for threading, do you know which header is missing?  I notice that threading 
is more difficult for me now too, but as we talk to Jive support I'm not sure 
what header I want to be enabling.  Is it in In-Reply-To?

Matt


On 4/8/09 7:40 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote:






 On Friday 03 Apr 2009, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
 Will the forums replace flexcoders?

No.
The forums are missing many important features, esp. for email users (such as
the headers that support threading, spell checking and reply by email).


Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-08 Thread Matt Chotin
I think we can deal with the subject line if we fix the headers.  I'm trying to 
figure out what header changes we might be able to make ourselves vs. needing a 
patch from Jive.

Have you checked the site itself to see if your response is up?  I believe that 
you don't receive email notification of your own postings (which is frustrating 
me I admit).

Matt


On 4/8/09 12:24 PM, Jeffry Houser j...@farcryfly.com wrote:





Threading isn't working in Thunderbird either.  The response I got from John 
Cornicello

Email threading might be an issue because each email has a unique identifier 
in the subject line so that it threads in correctly in the forum when it posts.

 I'm not entirely sure how e-mail clients handle threading, so can't elaborate.

 I have been responding to some posts via e-mail, but none have made it through 
to the other end yet.  What would the delay be before hitting the site?  My 
oldest one was sent about 20 hours ago.

Matt Chotin wrote:
 Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming! Hey Tom,

I've got reply by email working from my Entourage client, which part isn't 
working for you there?  Also not sure where spell checking is going wrong?

As for threading, do you know which header is missing?  I notice that threading 
is more difficult for me now too, but as we talk to Jive support I'm not sure 
what header I want to be enabling.  Is it in In-Reply-To?

Matt


On 4/8/09 7:40 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote:







 On Friday 03 Apr 2009, Bjorn Schultheiss wrote:
 Will the forums replace flexcoders?

No.
The forums are missing many important features, esp. for email users (such as
the headers that support threading, spell checking and reply by email).




Re: [flexcoders] Re: When is Gumbo expiration date?

2009-04-07 Thread Matt Chotin
I think we may have originally thought we'd have a beta out earlier, but things 
change.  Trust me, we're not getting that many bug reports from folks, remember 
that it was only available to folks who attended MAX.  Beta is likely to be in 
June.

Matt


On 4/7/09 7:26 AM, rlenoel rlen...@yahoo.fr wrote:




Hi,

the computer date tip does work.

But I don't really understand why this alpha version has an expiration date.

Was it planned to release the beta version before the March 31st deadline ?

And what about bug reports if nobody can test it anymore ?

I tried to reactivate the Gumbo builder with my flex builder 3 serial number 
but i doesn't work...

I just want to know if there is really no solution.

Or if you're going to announce the beta release tomorrow ?

please :)

Romain

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 Yep, there have been so many changes since this preview came out that I 
 really wouldn't recommend coding against it.  Code against a more recent 
 nightly build of the SDK.

 Matt


 On 4/6/09 7:32 AM, Nate Beck n...@... wrote:




 You probably shouldn't programming anything critical in Gumbo in the first 
 place.  There are many things that are changing since the Flex Builder Gumbo 
 preview came out, particularly the FxPrefix.

 That being said, you can still go and grab that latest version of the Flex 
 SDK from opensource.adobe.com http://opensource.adobe.com , and use mxmlc 
 to compile your code.  I believe some people have been using Flex Builder 3 
 to compile Flex SDK 4 code as well, although I haven't personally done it.

 For what it's worth, even if you went and got the nightly build of Flex SDK 
 Gumbo, your code probably won't work with all the recent changes made to 
 Gumbo.

 HTH,
 Nate


 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:34 AM, djhatrick djhatr...@... wrote:



 Matt,

 How do we keep Gumbo running? the 'old set the date on the computer back' 
 trick???

 P



 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
 mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  March 31 I believe.  We are not going to have the new beta out by then 
  either.
 
  Matt
 
 
  On 2/27/09 2:46 PM, djhatrick djhatrick@ wrote:
 
 
 
 
  Hope it's not March 1?  Just checking...  In case.
 
  Thanks,
  Patrick
 








Re: [flexcoders] Re: When is Gumbo expiration date?

2009-04-06 Thread Matt Chotin
Yep, there have been so many changes since this preview came out that I really 
wouldn't recommend coding against it.  Code against a more recent nightly build 
of the SDK.

Matt


On 4/6/09 7:32 AM, Nate Beck n...@tldstudio.com wrote:




You probably shouldn't programming anything critical in Gumbo in the first 
place.  There are many things that are changing since the Flex Builder Gumbo 
preview came out, particularly the FxPrefix.

That being said, you can still go and grab that latest version of the Flex SDK 
from opensource.adobe.com http://opensource.adobe.com , and use mxmlc to 
compile your code.  I believe some people have been using Flex Builder 3 to 
compile Flex SDK 4 code as well, although I haven't personally done it.

For what it's worth, even if you went and got the nightly build of Flex SDK 
Gumbo, your code probably won't work with all the recent changes made to Gumbo.

HTH,
Nate


On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 6:34 AM, djhatrick djhatr...@yahoo.com wrote:



Matt,

How do we keep Gumbo running? the 'old set the date on the computer back' 
trick???

P



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 Hi,

 March 31 I believe.  We are not going to have the new beta out by then either.

 Matt


 On 2/27/09 2:46 PM, djhatrick djhatr...@... wrote:




 Hope it's not March 1?  Just checking...  In case.

 Thanks,
 Patrick









Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-05 Thread Matt Chotin
I know there are plenty of people who still use NNTP (I certainly hadn't 
realized how popular it remained among our community since it didn't seem to 
work so well for me).  But yes, we won't be able to support NNTP right now.  
That said, most email clients today support threading of messages which means 
that you can have pretty much the same experience as what you were getting 
before.  To me, not having to launch another client to track the forums is a 
pretty significant win (since my email client doesn't support NNTP).

I realize I won't be able to convince the diehards of the benefits of the 
overall change, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that this change is 
going to benefit the majority of the Flex community.

Matt


On 4/4/09 11:52 AM, Amy amyblankens...@bellsouth.net wrote:




--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
Nancy Gill na...@... wrote:

 What will happen to the NNTP access?

 It will be gone.   :(
 This is a huge mistake on Adobe's part.

Well, I guess I'll be using the forums exactly once...to explain to the people 
who have gotten help from me in the past why they are not going to be able to 
get it from me in the future.

Kind of a shame, but possibly the power users that are happier doing things by 
e.mail will be able to replace the ones that have traditionally used nntp.

-Amy







Re: [flexcoders] Using later SDKs with Flex 3

2009-04-03 Thread Matt Chotin
You should be able to update your Flex Builder to 3.0.2, and then download the 
Flex 3.3 SDK from adobe.com (since there is no corresponding Flex Builder 
update).  No need to pay anything, but you will need 3.0.2 for your 3.3 SDK to 
work.


On 4/3/09 4:24 PM, Tony Obermeit t...@tamborine.to wrote:




Hi

I have a flex 3 licence but I see there is a flex 3.2 (and possibly later sdk).

Will that work with my flex 3 flex builder?  Do I need to download a whole new 
flexbuilder or just the sdk or do i have to pay more money to the good folks at 
Adobe?








[flexcoders] New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-02 Thread Matt Chotin
Hi all,

If you've been using the Adobe forums via the web interface recently you
probably saw notices that we're introducing a huge upgrade to the forum
system.  We're combining the user-to-user forums (adobeforums.com) and the
adobe.com forums into a single forum system.  We're going to have some great
features in there like email participation, RSS feeds, moderation supported
by community members (on specific forums, if appropriate), better text entry
support (including some levels of code formatting), and user ratings.  This
has me pretty excited as I think it will be a huge improvement over what we
have.

The forums are going to be down starting on Friday at 3pm PDT so we can
migrate the last 36 months of content over to the new system.  We expect the
new system to come up by Monday.  Once they're up I hope folks will check
things out and become active participants.  I'll be curious to see what you
think, I'm hoping we might even look into combining some of our separated
forums under the system if it can meet folks' usability needs.

So stay tuned!
Matt



Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-02 Thread Matt Chotin
I think that will be up to folks who use flexcoders.  I'm hoping that we'll 
consolidate and therefore be able to not rely on a separate list, but I want 
the forums to prove themselves worthy of that :-)


On 4/2/09 9:57 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:




Will the forums replace flexcoders?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 Hi all,

 If you've been using the Adobe forums via the web interface recently you
 probably saw notices that we're introducing a huge upgrade to the forum
 system.  We're combining the user-to-user forums (adobeforums.com) and the
 adobe.com forums into a single forum system.  We're going to have some great
 features in there like email participation, RSS feeds, moderation supported
 by community members (on specific forums, if appropriate), better text entry
 support (including some levels of code formatting), and user ratings.  This
 has me pretty excited as I think it will be a huge improvement over what we
 have.

 The forums are going to be down starting on Friday at 3pm PDT so we can
 migrate the last 36 months of content over to the new system.  We expect the
 new system to come up by Monday.  Once they're up I hope folks will check
 things out and become active participants.  I'll be curious to see what you
 think, I'm hoping we might even look into combining some of our separated
 forums under the system if it can meet folks' usability needs.

 So stay tuned!
 Matt








Re: [flexcoders] Re: New Adobe forums coming!

2009-04-02 Thread Matt Chotin
You will be able to receive and initiate everything over email.  That was a 
requirement.


On 4/2/09 10:07 PM, Sam Lai samuel@gmail.com wrote:

I hope not - I used to be a forum trawler, but lately I've become
quite fond of having the content pushed to my email, as opposed to me
having to go get it. Also makes it easier to read on a mobile (yes, I
don't have an iPhone).

Some forum software offer a mailing list interface too - not sure if
clearspace does this. Alternatively, can you subscribe to entire
forums, not just individual threads - that would emulate a mailing
list.

2009/4/3 Matt Chotin mcho...@adobe.com:
 I think that will be up to folks who use flexcoders.  I'm hoping that we'll
 consolidate and therefore be able to not rely on a separate list, but I want
 the forums to prove themselves worthy of that :-)


 On 4/2/09 9:57 PM, Bjorn Schultheiss bjorn.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:




 Will the forums replace flexcoders?

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com ,
 Matt Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 Hi all,

 If you've been using the Adobe forums via the web interface recently you
 probably saw notices that we're introducing a huge upgrade to the forum
 system.  We're combining the user-to-user forums (adobeforums.com) and the
 adobe.com forums into a single forum system.  We're going to have some
 great
 features in there like email participation, RSS feeds, moderation
 supported
 by community members (on specific forums, if appropriate), better text
 entry
 support (including some levels of code formatting), and user ratings.
  This
 has me pretty excited as I think it will be a huge improvement over what
 we
 have.

 The forums are going to be down starting on Friday at 3pm PDT so we can
 migrate the last 36 months of content over to the new system.  We expect
 the
 new system to come up by Monday.  Once they're up I hope folks will check
 things out and become active participants.  I'll be curious to see what
 you
 think, I'm hoping we might even look into combining some of our separated
 forums under the system if it can meet folks' usability needs.

 So stay tuned!
 Matt













--
Flexcoders Mailing List
FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt
Alternative FAQ location: 
https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847
Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! 
Groups Links






Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Builder Compiler Performance Benchmarking

2009-03-26 Thread Matt Chotin
Also, if everything is an individual MXML application file but then you're 
editing code that they depend on, you're compiling all of those individual MXML 
files each time.  That's going to take a significant amount of time because 
each one has to be linked.  What happens if you don't have lots of applications 
in your project but instead only have one or two applications?

Matt


On 3/26/09 1:03 AM, edlueze edlu...@onegen.com wrote:




Some more information about my slow compiler:

I'm running on a dual-core HP workstation with 4GB of RAM. I try to limit what 
else I'm running (usually just Excel and Firefox) and I've been watching Task 
Manager without noticing anything remarkable.

More recently I've been forced to work offsite on a laptop (dual-core 1GB) and 
the performance is a little slower. The desktop and laptop were setup 
completely differently with different versions of Windows. However, I was too 
lazy to reinstall Eclipse so I just copied over C:\eclipse (including the 
workspace) from my desktop to my laptop. Clue #1 - it's probably more to do 
with my Eclipse than my computer.

Small applications compile quickly. The problem grew slowly worse over time - 
after a month I was forced to abandon the Build Automatically option.

I haven't integrated my application, so right now it is a series of individual 
MXML files running by themselves in the browser (all within the same Project). 
Most files import other classes, and a couple include other files in a 
pretty ugly way. But I would have thought keeping them separate like this would 
reduce the compilation time.

I'm not including any graphics in my application yet. But I do Embed a couple 
of XML files at compile-time. One of them is reasonably large (8,000 lines) and 
I dread changing it because the application will only see it after a full 
recompile.  Next to those individual MXML files, the only thing that has 
consistently been growing is this Embedded XML file. Clue #2 - maybe the 
compiler doesn't like Embedding files?

I'll work on doing that other stuff you recommended - compiling with ANT/MXMLC, 
and generating the line count. I might also try upgrading Flex Builder. If none 
of that works, I'll take you up on your offer (Matt) and send you the source 
code.

All the best,

Ted.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Tim 
Rowe tim.r...@... wrote:

 With over 2,000 source and resource files in our application (just the 
 client-side is 1k as, 500 mxml, there's another 8k8 .java on the server 
 side), our compile time is under 30 seconds (on a C2D 2.33 w/4GB), so I would 
 hazard a guess something's wrong.

 A few things to check/do:
 0.  Create a basic application.  Does compiling even the simplest of apps 
 take a similar amount of time?
 1.  Get a line counter.  There's dozens out there, just grab one you're happy 
 with (no, I don't have any particular recommendations).  At least just get a 
 file and line counter so you've got some basic metrics to base information on.
 2.  What is the system CPU doing?  Is it burning away at 100% while compiling 
 the whole time?  Similarly, are you running out of memory?  Eclipse can get 
 pretty memory hungry, and if you're only on a 1GB system with Eclipse trying 
 to chew 700MB, it could be paging like crazy.
 3.  Fire up perfmon and add some counters while you do a compile.  Find out 
 what's going on - any heavy disk thrashing, cpu/memory loading.
 Basically try to identify is it just doing any timed waits or blocking calls?
 4.  Write an ANT target to compile the source from a CLI, if you haven't done 
 so already.  Hell, you could even execute it manually.  Does mxmlc.exe take 
 the same amount of time as the eclipse build?

 These are just a few small things I'd consider trying/looking at which might 
 help identify the problem

 Tim Rowe
 Software Engineer
 carsales.com Ltd

 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
 [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com ] On 
 Behalf Of edlueze
 Sent: Thursday, 26 March 2009 2:07 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Builder Compiler Performance Benchmarking


 Hi Folks:

 Can somebody tell me what a reasonable compile-time for a Flex Application 
 is? A clean build for my application will take about 2 hours, and an 
 incremental compile after I've changed several files will often take an hour. 
 If I've only changed one file then an incremental compile will usually take 
 less than a minute.

 I'm using Flex Builder 3.0 in Eclipse and it would be typical for me to see 
 the same error message repeated a dozen times (presumably the compiler has 
 passed through the same file that many times).

 I was new to Flex when I started this project and I've been working on it for 
 about 6 months. I have no idea how many lines of code I've got, but how big 
 could it 

Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder Compiler Performance Benchmarking

2009-03-25 Thread Matt Chotin
We clearly need to see your application and understand your system 
configuration.  This is obviously something going very wrong, I can't imagine 
your compilation taking more than 30 seconds, and even that would hopefully be 
very high.

Can you provide the source for your app to us (you can mail me offlist)?  Also 
send your system specs.

Matt


On 3/25/09 8:07 PM, edlueze edlu...@onegen.com wrote:




Hi Folks:

Can somebody tell me what a reasonable compile-time for a Flex Application is? 
A clean build for my application will take about 2 hours, and an incremental 
compile after I've changed several files will often take an hour. If I've only 
changed one file then an incremental compile will usually take less than a 
minute.

I'm using Flex Builder 3.0 in Eclipse and it would be typical for me to see the 
same error message repeated a dozen times (presumably the compiler has passed 
through the same file that many times).

I was new to Flex when I started this project and I've been working on it for 
about 6 months. I have no idea how many lines of code I've got, but how big 
could it be if it's only been me working on it?! There are about 100 files of 
all sorts and I've cleared out most of the other projects.

After reading others complain about compilation times of only 40 seconds (my 
dream!) I started getting worried that I've fundamentally botched the way I've 
set things up. Any feedback would be very welcome!

Thanks,

Ted.







Re: [flexcoders] Where I can download Flex 4 Builder trial version?

2009-03-24 Thread Matt Chotin
It's not yet available publically.  We're hoping to beta in June.

Matt


On 3/24/09 9:02 AM, markflex2007 markflex2...@yahoo.com wrote:




Thanks

Mark







[flexcoders] Interested in getting an update on Maven and Flex

2009-03-14 Thread Matt Chotin
Sonatype has been doing a lot of work on getting good Flex support together
for Maven (and vice versa).  They're holding a meetup where some of the
topics will include Flex.  Check out the details here:
http://www.sonatype.com/people/2009/03/sonatype-maven-meetup-on-march-19th-2
0th/

Matt



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Framework Caching Affecting Security Settings?

2009-03-13 Thread Matt Chotin
I made the bug public, setting severity of Security will immediately make the 
bug only visible to Adobe folks as a just-in-case measure.  The dot on the end 
of the link can screw things up, just make sure the dot is gone and now you can 
see the bug and vote for it.


On 3/13/09 10:27 AM, Jamie S jsjph...@gmail.com wrote:




I can't see it either. Because it's related to security I think you
need some sort of higher level account to see it. When I filed the bug
I got a notice that it would be obscured for this reason.

Jamie

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:08 AM, valdhor valdhorli...@embarqmail.com 
mailto:valdhorlists%40embarqmail.com  wrote:
 Works for me. Have you signed up for an account?

 Oh, one other thing. Check the URL in the address bar. Does it have a period
 (.) at the end? If so, remove it.

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
 Yves Riel r...@... wrote:

 Don't know if I'm the only one but I cannot access that page!?

 

 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
 [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com ] On
 Behalf Of Alex Harui
 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:03 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Framework Caching Affecting Security
 Settings?



 Vote for this bug: https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-16050.

 Alex Harui

 Flex SDK Developer

 Adobe Systems Inc. http://www.adobe.com/

 Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
 [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com ] On
 Behalf Of jedierikb
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:11 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Framework Caching Affecting Security Settings?

 [Hello. New to the list. Found you from a google search for a bug I've
 encountered. Looks like I've found the right people!]

 I have encountered this same bug and wonder if there was ever a
 resolution?

 As a work around, I have removed every bit of security enabled code
 (no javascript to actionscript calls) from my home-rolled rsl libraries.

 Is there a way to build the SWC/SWFs or link to them or some
 crossdomain.xml trickery which can properly solve this problem?

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
 mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
 , Jamie S jsjphoto@ wrote:
 
  Does Framework Caching affect the security settings?
 
  I was banging my head against a wall because my app was throwing
  security violations all over the place when an outside swf ( or
  JavaScript ) tried to access the main app. I was using
  Security.allowDomain(*) but it was being ignored completely. I
  turned framework caching off and everything worked again.
 
  What is the connection? How can I use framework caching and still keep
  my security settings intact?
 
  Jamie
 









Re: [flexcoders] Automation updates with 3.3 SDK?

2009-03-11 Thread Matt Chotin
They should be included in the datavisualization download that's on the Flex 
download page.  http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/

Matt


On 3/11/09 1:10 PM, Beau Scott beau.sc...@gmail.com wrote:




Just curious if the automation libraries were updated as well? and if so, where 
to obtain them.


Re: [flexcoders] Automation updates with 3.3 SDK?

2009-03-11 Thread Matt Chotin
And if not, then just copy them from 3.2, nothing should have changed.


On 3/11/09 2:30 PM, Matt Chotin mcho...@adobe.com wrote:

They should be included in the datavisualization download that's on the Flex 
download page.  http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/

Matt


On 3/11/09 1:10 PM, Beau Scott beau.sc...@gmail.com wrote:




Just curious if the automation libraries were updated as well? and if so, where 
to obtain them.


Re: [flexcoders] Re: Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex - source code?

2009-03-10 Thread Matt Chotin
Well, if it's their book it's definitely Flex 1, not Flex 2.  So it won't help 
with a later project.

Matt


On 3/10/09 8:14 AM, Libby libbychan...@yahoo.com wrote:




Hi Matt
My copy of the book refers to Flex 2.0 ... anyway I remember in their examples 
they did a datagrid itemrenderer and I just wanted to refresh my memory cause 
the one I'm working on is not working the way I expected it to.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 Hey Libby,

 I checked and the machine that had this code went offline.  It's all Flex 1.0 
 code, you sure you really need it?

 Matt


 On 3/5/09 10:28 AM, Libby libbychan...@... wrote:




 Hi, I have this book but lost my copy of the source code I originally 
 downloaded. The authors website (http://flexbook.iterationtwo.com/, 
 http://www.flexbook.iterationtwo.com/) is down. Does anyone know how to 
 contact the authors Stephen Webster and Alistair McCleod or maybe has a copy?

 Thanks,
 Libby








Re: [flexcoders] Flex Roadmap Question

2009-03-09 Thread Matt Chotin
If it's marked as fixed and the history shows it as not having been the same 
day as you looking at the bug, then it's likely in the nightly build.  This is 
for the SDK obviously.

Matt


On 3/9/09 12:58 PM, kramus0 kram...@yahoo.de wrote:




I'm not sure if I should ask that question here, but maybe somebody can help me 
anyway. Is there any roadmap for Flex? I have found a bug in the Flex bug 
management system (Jira) that shows that it is already fixed in I11 - which 
mean Iteration 11 for Gumbo. But what does that exactly mean? Is it already 
in the nightly builds for Gumbo or will it be released later?

Thanks for your help.

Markus







Re: [flexcoders] difference between Adobe Flex SDK Open Source Flex SDK

2009-03-09 Thread Matt Chotin
Explanations are here: 
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Downloads


On 3/9/09 2:23 PM, hworke kanps...@gmail.com wrote:






Hi what are the differences between
 Adobe Flex SDK  Open Source Flex SDK?

As you can see here?

http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+4







Re: [flexcoders] 3.3 SDK AIR debugging issues

2009-03-06 Thread Matt Chotin
We're working with the AIR team on this, FB-16153

Matt

On 3/6/09 9:17 AM, Beau Scott beau.sc...@gmail.com wrote:




I just updated our code base to use Flex SDK 3.3  AIR 1.5.1 (thanks to some 
weird dependency issue that occured when updating the system's AIR runtime to 
1.5.1 and not the debugger... real nice), and am now having horrible issues 
debugging on all platforms.
We primarily develop on Linux, and are used to the frequent/random debugger 
disconnects that have always plagued it, but are now experiencing random 
lockups of the application being debugged.
Thinking this was a Linux oversight, we booted up to Windows -- and 
disappointingly found that there are as many issues in debugging in windows 
now. For no apparent reason, when launch an application for debugging, about 
20% of the time the application never starts. You can see the decompression 
message in the debug output, but that's it. ADL is still running, not really 
consuming more memory, and the debugger stays connected, but nothing happens. 
Debugging on Windows also has the same random/frequent lockups that Linux did 
after the SDK update.

I've updated all the runtimes, etc., following the instructions here: 
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flex/flexbuilder_linux/releasenotes.html#air 
and adapting them to fit all platforms (with regard to executables).

Anyone else see this?


Re: [flexcoders] Developing Rich Clients with Macromedia Flex - source code?

2009-03-06 Thread Matt Chotin
Hey Libby,

I checked and the machine that had this code went offline.  It's all Flex 1.0 
code, you sure you really need it?

Matt


On 3/5/09 10:28 AM, Libby libbychan...@yahoo.com wrote:




Hi, I have this book but lost my copy of the source code I originally 
downloaded. The authors website (http://flexbook.iterationtwo.com/, 
http://www.flexbook.iterationtwo.com/) is down. Does anyone know how to contact 
the authors Stephen Webster and Alistair McCleod or maybe has a copy?

Thanks,
Libby







Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3 and Flash Player 10.0.22 coming?

2009-03-05 Thread Matt Chotin
Oops, I screwed up and forgot to set it to publish.  Should go live in a sec.

Note that we screwed up the symlinks for AIR that are used by the Mac.  We have 
a script available at http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-19707
that can fix this and we'll be updating the bits in the next day or so.

Matt

On 3/5/09 5:06 AM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




Which Flex blog?
Not http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/?

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Matt Chotin
Sent: 04 March 2009 17:21
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3 and Flash Player 10.0.22 coming?


No license change, just a change in how we provided the bits since we didn't 
update FB.

I blogged the 3 DMV bug fixes on the Flex team blog.


On 3/4/09 12:09 AM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




I think I missed this one!

Does this release of the DMV code mean that we don't need a license for it 
anymore?

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Matt Chotin
Sent: 03 March 2009 17:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3 and Flash Player 10.0.22 coming?


Rollout wasn't so smooth but everything's up now.

http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/

The DMV bits are there too.

SDK bug fixes are here: 
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hiderequestId=12020

I'll get one for DMV too, though you can search the bugbase yourself.

Reminder that there is no associated 3.0.3 Flex Builder coming.  Also I didn't 
write an article for this one since it's mostly bug fixes, many of them related 
to Marshall Plan.  Also it obviously has the new Players.

Have fun!
Matt


On 3/3/09 8:33 AM, tntomek tnto...@yahoo.com wrote:





--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
Tianzhen Lin tang...@... wrote:

 Not sure if this is old news, I just noticed a massive commit of Flex
 framework classes on Flex framework's repository, along with a nifty
comment

 Merge 3.x revisions 5042,5072-5073,5090-5091 - trunk
 This includes the latest released player 10.0.22.87

 Coincidentally, I also noticed the Flex online documentation is now
 referring Flex 3.3,

 http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/langref/mx/effects/Sequence.html

 Something new are definitely around the corner... (rubbing hands)


 - T.


Looks like 3.3 is out officially. Still no mention about how the
separate DMV is supposed to ship since there is no FB 3.03 to go with
this release.

Feb 5 build
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+3












Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3 and Flash Player 10.0.22 coming?

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Chotin
No license change, just a change in how we provided the bits since we didn't 
update FB.

I blogged the 3 DMV bug fixes on the Flex team blog.


On 3/4/09 12:09 AM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




I think I missed this one!

Does this release of the DMV code mean that we don't need a license for it 
anymore?

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Matt Chotin
Sent: 03 March 2009 17:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3 and Flash Player 10.0.22 coming?


Rollout wasn't so smooth but everything's up now.

http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/

The DMV bits are there too.

SDK bug fixes are here: 
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hiderequestId=12020

I'll get one for DMV too, though you can search the bugbase yourself.

Reminder that there is no associated 3.0.3 Flex Builder coming.  Also I didn't 
write an article for this one since it's mostly bug fixes, many of them related 
to Marshall Plan.  Also it obviously has the new Players.

Have fun!
Matt


On 3/3/09 8:33 AM, tntomek tnto...@yahoo.com wrote:




--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
Tianzhen Lin tang...@... wrote:

 Not sure if this is old news, I just noticed a massive commit of Flex
 framework classes on Flex framework's repository, along with a nifty
comment

 Merge 3.x revisions 5042,5072-5073,5090-5091 - trunk
 This includes the latest released player 10.0.22.87

 Coincidentally, I also noticed the Flex online documentation is now
 referring Flex 3.3,

 http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/langref/mx/effects/Sequence.html

 Something new are definitely around the corner... (rubbing hands)


 - T.


Looks like 3.3 is out officially. Still no mention about how the
separate DMV is supposed to ship since there is no FB 3.03 to go with
this release.

Feb 5 build
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+3










Re: [flexcoders] Problem using sdk version 3.3

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Chotin
Make sure to download the DMV components.


On 3/4/09 11:35 AM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2...@yahoo.com wrote:




After pointing Builder to sdk 3.3 I am getting an error:
1172: Definition mx.collections:HierarchicalData could not be found.

Please help.







Re: [flexcoders] Re: Problem using sdk version 3.3

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Chotin
Download from: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/

Instructions: 
http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/3/releasenotes_flex3_sdk.html#Datavisualization

On 3/4/09 11:51 AM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2...@yahoo.com wrote:




Not sure I uderstand how to download and install it.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 Make sure to download the DMV components.


 On 3/4/09 11:35 AM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2...@... wrote:




 After pointing Builder to sdk 3.3 I am getting an error:
 1172: Definition mx.collections:HierarchicalData could not be found.

 Please help.








Re: [flexcoders] Re: Problem using sdk version 3.3

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Chotin
Java -jar will actually run the executable code that's included within that 
JAR.  It requires the license key found in your license.properties which should 
be located in the location we specified.  Look in that folder and see if 
license.properties is there.  If it isn't, find your license.properties and use 
that location.

Matt


On 3/4/09 12:22 PM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2...@yahoo.com wrote:




I am having problem with:
..
Extract the sources for the data visualization components from DMV-source.jar

If I open DMV-source.jar with winrar I see folders named Flex and META-INF
so
java -jar DMV-source.jar  C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application 
Data\Adobe\Flex

does not create the fbpro folder.

AM I doing something wrong?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 Download from: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/

 Instructions: 
 http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/3/releasenotes_flex3_sdk.html#Datavisualization

 On 3/4/09 11:51 AM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2...@... wrote:




 Not sure I uderstand how to download and install it.

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
 mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:
 
  Make sure to download the DMV components.
 
 
  On 3/4/09 11:35 AM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2000@ wrote:
 
 
 
 
  After pointing Builder to sdk 3.3 I am getting an error:
  1172: Definition mx.collections:HierarchicalData could not be found.
 
  Please help.
 








Re: [flexcoders] Re: Problem using sdk version 3.3

2009-03-04 Thread Matt Chotin
Ah, yeah the quotes for the arg.  Sorry bout that, I'll look and see if we can 
get that updated in the release notes.


On 3/4/09 2:09 PM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2...@yahoo.com wrote:




Ok, this finally created the fbpro folder:
D:\Program Files\Adobe\Flex Builder 3\sdks\3.3.0\libjava -jar  DMV-source.jar 
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Flex

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2...@... wrote:

 Actually this command triggers execution:
 java -jar  D:\Program Files\Adobe\Flex Builder 
 3\sdks\3.3.0\lib\DMV-source.jar C:\Documents and Settings\All 
 Users\Application Data\Adobe\Flex

 Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
 (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

 C:\Documents and Settings\mgoldinjava -jar  D:\Program Files\Adobe\Flex Buil
 r 3\sdks\3.3.0\lib\DMV-source.jar C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Applic
 ion Data\Adobe\Flex
 using license {flexbuilder3.displayedFirstLaunchMessage=true, flexbuilder3.dis
 ayed20DaysLeftMessage=true, flexbuilder3=***}, outputing
  directory ..
 license is valid, extracting datavisualisation and automation files to ..

 C:\Documents and Settings\mgoldin


 but fbpro is not there.


 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
 markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2000@ wrote:
 
  Right, and this is my command line:
  java -jar  D:\Program Files\Adobe\Flex Builder 
  3\sdks\3.3.0\lib\DMV-source.jar C:\Documents and Settings\All 
  Users\Application Data\Adobe\Flex
 
  Still no fbpro is created.
 
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
  Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:
  
   Java -jar will actually run the executable code that's included within 
   that JAR.  It requires the license key found in your license.properties 
   which should be located in the location we specified.  Look in that 
   folder and see if license.properties is there.  If it isn't, find your 
   license.properties and use that location.
  
   Matt
  
  
   On 3/4/09 12:22 PM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2000@ wrote:
  
  
  
  
   I am having problem with:
   ..
   Extract the sources for the data visualization components from 
   DMV-source.jar
  
   If I open DMV-source.jar with winrar I see folders named Flex and META-INF
   so
   java -jar DMV-source.jar  C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application 
   Data\Adobe\Flex
  
   does not create the fbpro folder.
  
   AM I doing something wrong?
  
   --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
   mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:
   
Download from: http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/
   
Instructions: 
http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/3/releasenotes_flex3_sdk.html#Datavisualization
   
On 3/4/09 11:51 AM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2000@ wrote:
   
   
   
   
Not sure I uderstand how to download and install it.
   
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:

 Make sure to download the DMV components.


 On 3/4/09 11:35 AM, markgoldin_2000 markgoldin_2000@ wrote:




 After pointing Builder to sdk 3.3 I am getting an error:
 1172: Definition mx.collections:HierarchicalData could not be found.

 Please help.

   
  
 








Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3 and Flash Player 10.0.22 coming?

2009-03-03 Thread Matt Chotin
Rollout wasn't so smooth but everything's up now.

http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/flexdownloads/

The DMV bits are there too.

SDK bug fixes are here: 
https://bugs.adobe.com/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hiderequestId=12020

I'll get one for DMV too, though you can search the bugbase yourself.

Reminder that there is no associated 3.0.3 Flex Builder coming.  Also I didn't 
write an article for this one since it's mostly bug fixes, many of them related 
to Marshall Plan.  Also it obviously has the new Players.

Have fun!
Matt


On 3/3/09 8:33 AM, tntomek tnto...@yahoo.com wrote:




--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , 
Tianzhen Lin tang...@... wrote:

 Not sure if this is old news, I just noticed a massive commit of Flex
 framework classes on Flex framework's repository, along with a nifty
comment

 Merge 3.x revisions 5042,5072-5073,5090-5091 - trunk
 This includes the latest released player 10.0.22.87

 Coincidentally, I also noticed the Flex online documentation is now
 referring Flex 3.3,

 http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/3/langref/mx/effects/Sequence.html

 Something new are definitely around the corner... (rubbing hands)


 - T.


Looks like 3.3 is out officially. Still no mention about how the
separate DMV is supposed to ship since there is no FB 3.03 to go with
this release.

Feb 5 build
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+3







Re: [flexcoders] Re: Help the Flex Team by taking our survey!

2009-03-02 Thread Matt Chotin
Which questions do you see that?


On 2/28/09 9:43 PM, Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:




it doesn't accept something in the other section to be an answer in some 
cases, which is a bit counter-intuitive.


On 01/03/2009, at 10:01 AM, djhatrick wrote:


Matt, i had a problem with the survey, it wouldn't let me finish it,
it said my answer was needed on a question i answered already.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 That's what the Other section is for, help us figure out what
we're missing :-) So far according to the results I've looked at
we're not missing a huge swath though...


 On 2/28/09 2:00 PM, Guy Morton g...@... wrote:




 Your survey is a bit frustrating. surely I can't be the only one to
have used SVG before using Flex? Also, you list Ruby as a back end
tech but not perl - I bet there's more perl serving data to Flex than
there is Ruby...
! nbsp;

 On 28/02/2009, at 6:01 AM, flex_coders wrote:

 Help the Flex team better understand who you are and what you're
 working on. This information is incredibly valuable to us. Please take
 20 m! inutes and fill out our survey:
 http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=vCfoIoZ0_2bLG6CTgVcntsVA_3d_3d

 Thanks for your time and help!









Re: [flexcoders] Help the Flex Team by taking our survey!

2009-02-28 Thread Matt Chotin
That's what the Other section is for, help us figure out what we're missing 
:-)  So far according to the results I've looked at we're not missing a huge 
swath though...


On 2/28/09 2:00 PM, Guy Morton g...@alchemy.com.au wrote:




Your survey is a bit frustrating. surely I can't be the only one to have used 
SVG before using Flex? Also, you list Ruby as a back end tech but not perl - I 
bet there's more perl serving data to Flex than there is Ruby...


On 28/02/2009, at 6:01 AM, flex_coders wrote:

Help the Flex team better understand who you are and what you're
working on. This information is incredibly valuable to us. Please take
20 m! inutes and fill out our survey:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=vCfoIoZ0_2bLG6CTgVcntsVA_3d_3d

Thanks for your time and help!







Re: [flexcoders] Re: Help the Flex Team by taking our survey!

2009-02-28 Thread Matt Chotin
Weird.  Well, we seem to be doing OK, don't stress about it :-)


On 2/28/09 3:01 PM, djhatrick djhatr...@yahoo.com wrote:





Matt, i had a problem with the survey, it wouldn't let me finish it,
it said my answer was needed on a question i answered already.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 That's what the Other section is for, help us figure out what
we're missing :-)  So far according to the results I've looked at
we're not missing a huge swath though...


 On 2/28/09 2:00 PM, Guy Morton g...@... wrote:




 Your survey is a bit frustrating. surely I can't be the only one to
have used SVG before using Flex? Also, you list Ruby as a back end
tech but not perl - I bet there's more perl serving data to Flex than
there is Ruby...


 On 28/02/2009, at 6:01 AM, flex_coders wrote:

 Help the Flex team better understand who you are and what you're
 working on. This information is incredibly valuable to us. Please take
 20 m! inutes and fill out our survey:
 http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=vCfoIoZ0_2bLG6CTgVcntsVA_3d_3d

 Thanks for your time and help!








Re: [flexcoders] Help the Flex Team by taking our survey!

2009-02-27 Thread Matt Chotin
And tell your friends to take the survey too!


On 2/27/09 11:01 AM, Vera Carr ve...@adobe.com wrote:




Help the Flex team better understand who you are and what you're
working on. This information is incredibly valuable to us. Please take
20 minutes and fill out our survey:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=vCfoIoZ0_2bLG6CTgVcntsVA_3d_3d

Thanks for your time and help!






Re: [flexcoders] When is Gumbo expiration date?

2009-02-27 Thread Matt Chotin
Hi,

March 31 I believe.  We are not going to have the new beta out by then either.

Matt


On 2/27/09 2:46 PM, djhatrick djhatr...@yahoo.com wrote:




Hope it's not March 1?  Just checking...  In case.

Thanks,
Patrick







Re: [flexcoders] Gumbo / Flex 4 release date estimate?

2009-02-20 Thread Matt Chotin
Q4 2009


On 2/20/09 9:05 AM, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote:




I know there is never an official announcement about release dates from
Adobe until right before it happens... I have searched the archives
because I know it was mentioned before, but anyone have a good
idea/guess when Flexbuilder 4  will be released?  Even just your best
(somewhat informed) idea of what quarter of 2009 it will be?

Budgeting for software for the year is always tough when it comes to
stuff like this - we just want to know when to put money aside for
this. Thanks!

Jason Merrill







Re: [flexcoders] Thanks again to Adobe

2009-02-11 Thread Matt Chotin
I'm checking with some folks, but we're not changing the way Halo works so I 
think you'd consider to be a Spark adjustment.


On 2/11/09 12:19 AM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




Brief and succinct, like it!

Is this being handled under the more general look at Lists and the DG, or under 
Spark?

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Matt Chotin
Sent: 11 February 2009 00:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Thanks again to Adobe


Ah, sorry, we must have missed that one.  Your quesiton was: Just now, the 
majority of the functionality ItemEditor provides can be repeated by a 
ItemRenderer. With Gumbo giving better access to states, is it time to admit 
that Editing is just a state of the renderer?

I believe the answer is yes :-)








Re: [flexcoders] Thanks again to Adobe

2009-02-11 Thread Matt Chotin
Response from Deepa and Glenn:

a.)   We didn't know if a component-level Boolean flag to control editability 
was necessary (it was the source for a notorious set of hairy issues in Halo 
List and we were wary of tackling that in Spark)

b.)   It  was relatively straightforward to extend the component to include the 
concept of an editable state and author an edit-aware skin.

So we're not necessarily providing that subclass of the component out of the 
box, but it should be easy for you :-)

Matt

On 2/11/09 9:05 AM, Matt Chotin mcho...@adobe.com wrote:

I'm checking with some folks, but we're not changing the way Halo works so I 
think you'd consider to be a Spark adjustment.


On 2/11/09 12:19 AM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




Brief and succinct, like it!

Is this being handled under the more general look at Lists and the DG, or under 
Spark?

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Matt Chotin
Sent: 11 February 2009 00:33
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Thanks again to Adobe


Ah, sorry, we must have missed that one.  Your quesiton was: Just now, the 
majority of the functionality ItemEditor provides can be repeated by a 
ItemRenderer. With Gumbo giving better access to states, is it time to admit 
that Editing is just a state of the renderer?

I believe the answer is yes :-)








Re: [flexcoders] Thanks again to Adobe

2009-02-10 Thread Matt Chotin
Well, no one had posted the last time we had checked, looks like you have 2 
questions in there now.  But they were mostly answered right?


On 2/10/09 12:23 PM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




...for the chance to contribute at the Open Iteration meeting!

One question though, what happened to using the Google Moderator site for 
questions?

Gk.
Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk








Re: [flexcoders] Thanks again to Adobe

2009-02-10 Thread Matt Chotin
Ah, sorry, we must have missed that one.  Your quesiton was: Just now, the 
majority of the functionality ItemEditor provides can be repeated by a 
ItemRenderer. With Gumbo giving better access to states, is it time to admit 
that Editing is just a state of the renderer?

I believe the answer is yes :-)


On 2/10/09 1:16 PM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




Well not the ItemEditor one, I asked that in the chat as well but it got 
swallowed up in the rest of the chat about the Data Grid.
Having the open chat for questions was ok this time, with less than half the 
number of the initial meeting, and a much more focused feel, there was less 
noise to wade through.
If there was more people, I'd still suggest getting the questions in early.

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Matt Chotin
Sent: 10 February 2009 20:48
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Thanks again to Adobe


Well, no one had posted the last time we had checked, looks like you have 2 
questions in there now.  But they were mostly answered right?


On 2/10/09 12:23 PM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




...for the chance to contribute at the Open Iteration meeting!

One question though, what happened to using the Google Moderator site for 
questions?

Gk.
Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk











Re: [flexcoders] The First Flex Open Iteration Meeting

2009-02-06 Thread Matt Chotin
I got the Fx prefix discussion going on the forums.  The discussion begins!  
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.59b7cdf0

Matt


On 2/6/09 12:07 AM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




That's a sensible move to be honest. Given the amount of spam that flew through 
in the last meeting, nothing else would get talked about except that issue!
Rule 1 of meetings, make sure the meeting can have an outcome. By banning that, 
you can now!

Gk.

Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Nate Beck
Sent: 05 February 2009 23:39
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] The First Flex Open Iteration Meeting


Fx prefix is an ongoing discussion that will NOT be discussed in this meeting

Awesome.








Re: [flexcoders] Adobe Presentation Tool

2009-02-05 Thread Matt Chotin
It's an internal use only project but I'm not sure it's even being worked on 
right now.  I'll be honest, not exactly ready for prime time last I saw it...


On 2/5/09 4:38 PM, Erich Cervantez f...@noofusion.com wrote:




So I saw Evan Gifford give a flash component kit lecture at Flex Camp
in Orange County last weekend and he used the beta version of Adobe
Presentation Tool and it was wicked.

Problem is I can't find any mention of it anywhere except on Andrew
Shorten's blog (here's a screenshot:
http://www.ashorten.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/air-presentation.jpg).

Is this for internal Adobe use only or...?

I WANT IT!







Re: [flexcoders] Thanks to Adobe...

2009-01-29 Thread Matt Chotin
Yes, the next meetings will be more organized.  I think we probably anticipated 
most of the questions but frankly I wanted to see how the conversation would 
flow and I also didn't expect quite so significant a turnout (a pleasant 
surprise!).  The iteration meetings will have more of an agenda for sure.

Thanks for coming!
Matt


On 1/28/09 11:57 PM, Gregor Kiddie gkid...@inpses.co.uk wrote:




...for hosting the open SDK meeting last night. It was good to see so many 
names I recognised ;)
If I can make one little suggestion though? Next time, ask for the questions in 
advance, as the majority of questions answered were from who could shout 
loudest in the chat window.
For those who didn't go, probably the biggest note of the meeting was the 
introduction of open iteration meetings, which I hope get a good turnout as 
well.

Gk.
Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS

Tel:   01382 564343

Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ
Registered Number: 1788577
Registered in the UK
Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/

The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely 
for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone 
else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. 
If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk






Re: [flexcoders] Flex 3.3

2009-01-27 Thread Matt Chotin
Yes, it will be a separate download.  We're also going to make this strategy 
better in Flex 4.

Matt


On 1/27/09 1:29 AM, Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com wrote:




 On Monday 26 Jan 2009, Matt Chotin wrote:
 It's all bug fixes, and not a huge number of them.  We're not going to have
 an associated Flex Builder release either, just the SDK (though we'll get
 the charts updated).

So how will the chart updates be released ?
In the past, the only way to get them was to install Builder and rip them out
by hand.
Are they now, finally, going to be available as a separate download ?


Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3

2009-01-27 Thread Matt Chotin
Correct


On 1/27/09 9:44 AM, securenetfreedom nv1...@gmail.com wrote:




So, 3.3 will *not* apply to eclipse FB plugin?

Jeff

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt 
Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 It's all bug fixes, and not a huge number of them.  We're not going
to have an associated Flex Builder release either, just the SDK
(though we'll get the charts updated).

 Matt


 On 1/26/09 1:18 PM, tntomek tnto...@... wrote:




 Looks like we finally have official 3.3 SDK builds out.

 http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+3

 This seems to have been a relabeling as changes between last 3.2 build
 and 3.3 build are very minor.

 Does anyone know what features or changes 3.3 will bring us?






Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3

2009-01-27 Thread Matt Chotin
We haven't shipped yet :-)  still a few weeks away.


On 1/27/09 10:03 AM, Andres Serral aser...@gmail.com wrote:




I´cant found the releases notes.



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Matt Chotin
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:56 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 3.3

Correct

On 1/27/09 9:44 AM, securenetfreedom nv1...@gmail.com 
mailto:nv1000%40gmail.com  wrote:

So, 3.3 will *not* apply to eclipse FB plugin?

Jeff

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com  
mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Matt Chotin mcho...@... wrote:

 It's all bug fixes, and not a huge number of them. We're not going
to have an associated Flex Builder release either, just the SDK
(though we'll get the charts updated).

 Matt


 On 1/26/09 1:18 PM, tntomek tnto...@... wrote:




 Looks like we finally have official 3.3 SDK builds out.

 http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Download+Flex+3

 This seems to have been a relabeling as changes between last 3.2 build
 and 3.3 build are very minor.

 Does anyone know what features or changes 3.3 will bring us?






  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   >