Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2012/9/23 Alan Teeder ajtee...@v-twin.org.uk: The reason I quoted 10 Gb is that my fgdate/.git/objects directory is currently 8.9Gb, and I assumed that is what gets downloaded during a clone. I bow to your wisdom if you say that it is only 4.9Gb. I have the same size than Martin. For that I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Geoff McLane
On Sat, 2012-09-22 at 19:44 +, Martin Spott wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: New flightgear git users are faced with an initial download of about 10gb just to get started. Currently the fgdata GIT repo has approx. 4.9 GByte, Martin. Hi Martin, Alan, Bertrand, et al... I guess we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Teeder
-Original Message- From: Bertrand Coconnier Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:30 AM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble I have the same size than Martin. For that I execute on a regular basis the following commands git repack git gc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Twice I left it running overnight, but it failed both times after several hours during the fgdata clone. Which server do you clone from ? If you don't already do so, then you should consider fetching the initial clone from mapserver and to change the remote origin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Bertrand Coconnier wrote: git repack git gc git prune Same here, I'm running a similar set as hooks on the mapserver GIT mirror, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Teeder
-Original Message- From: Martin Spott Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:42 AM Newsgroups: list.flightgear-devel To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble Alan Teeder wrote: Twice I left it running overnight, but it failed both times

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Sunday 23 September 2012 10:19:52 Alan Teeder wrote: The reason I quoted 10 Gb is that my fgdate/.git/objects directory is currently 8.9Gb, and I assumed that is what gets downloaded during a clone. I bow to your wisdom if you say that it is only 4.9Gb. Since really only the initial clone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Stefan Seifert wrote: Since really only the initial clone is a problem, we could just offer a weekly updated tar ball of a bare clone for download. This download would just be ~ 5 GiB and would be resumable. [...] Any thoughts? Good idea. We actually had this for a while, but I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: Twice I left it running overnight, but it failed both times after several hours during the fgdata clone. Which server do you clone from ? If you don't already do so, then you should consider fetching the initial clone from mapserver and to change the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Brisa script has this line git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git fgdata This is also the default to which all new users are most likely to come across.. fun Q) We need to use smaller bolts for the railway bridge ! Every time I try to mount a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Scott
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 13:33 +, Martin Spott wrote: Alan Teeder wrote: Brisa script has this line git clone git://gitorious.org/fg/fgdata.git fgdata This is also the default to which all new users are most likely to come across.. fun Q) We need to use smaller

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Teeder
Martin Your suggestion of just having the Cessna is a base package version of fgdata is just what is required. I would go further and extend it to including all those aircraft which are in the regular release versions. These particular aircraft are on the whole well maintained and showcase the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi all, there is a WIKI page for this topic: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git:_splitting_fgdata Many points have been discussed over and over some time ago. If there is something new that has developed over time, please add it to the wiki page before it gets lost on the mailing list.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Teeder wrote: Sorting out the aircraft is then a completely separate problem, and several solutions to this have already been proposed. As we all remember one was actually implemented last year, but for various reasons not made fully public , was promptly abandoned. You might try

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Teeder
-Original Message- From: Torsten Dreyer Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 3:36 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble Hi all, there is a WIKI page for this topic: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Git:_splitting_fgdata Many points

[Flightgear-devel] Requesting arbitrary metar

2012-09-23 Thread James Turner
On 20 Sep 2012, at 10:30, James Turner wrote: I think I should go the full way here, and make a NasalMetar object that can be initialised as a location, and fires a Nasal callback when its data changes, i.e when it loads. We have all the pieces for this already, and glueing them together

[Flightgear-devel] XML include (and value overriding) question

2012-09-23 Thread Curtis Olson
I have a question about the Flightgear xml config system and doing includes. This is an arbitrary example, but let's say I have an xml config file called main.xml: PropertyList config weight-and-balance include=passengers.xml / /config /PropertyList The passenger.xml file might look

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Peter Morgan
I got a really really slow connection Got around the git problem by using a script on a dedicated to pull from git, and push to a subversion, which runs twice a day I then checkout from subversion read only of course, it works a treat and get all updates very quickly.. However this approach

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Geoff McLane
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 17:43 +0100, Peter Morgan wrote: I got a really really slow connection Got around the git problem by using a script on a dedicated to pull from git, and push to a subversion, which runs twice a day I then checkout from subversion read only of course, it works a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgdata trouble

2012-09-23 Thread Peter Morgan
Hi Pete, What about the idea I thought you were working on of zipping each aircraft - presumably regularly updated as more git changes happen - and having like the FGx GUI downloading and installing these at the users choice/request? Thus an initial install of fgdata would only have a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Requesting arbitrary metar

2012-09-23 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 4:56 PM, James Turner wrote: I didn't make a Nasal metar-wrapper, because Torsten Dreyer already provided 90% of what was needed with the MetarProperties object. What I have done, is slightly tweaked the API, so you can request metar to be exposed at any place in the