Re: [FRIAM] Entropy, irreversibility and inference at the foundations of statistical physics

Thanks Roger, Yes, Dill is very good. He’s not one of the flashy ones, like, e.g. Peter Wolynes or some of the other high-profile Names. He has a solid kind of workman-like style, but he knows a wide variety of foundation methods, including some of the difficult ones like glass methods.

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

I wonder: Can you spin any large weight fast enough to get some gyroscopic stabilization over orientation? I think about the large gangly designs that are favored for horizontal axis-of-rotation windmills, and think they will not respond nicely to twisting deformations. It is one thing to

Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity

I’m beginning to see a design. Put underwater data centers in shallow-water sites off the coast of FLA that already hit 100F in the summer. Those are already going to be dead of anything, kind of like radioactive waste dump sites. Those sites then become magnets for hurricanes, which can all

Re: [FRIAM] The lies of Trump and ecDNA

I don’t suppose I want to make some strident argument about his being or not being on the ballot, since there are good reasons a careful system of laws might want to allow someone to run for an office even from a prison (didn’t Lula da Silva have to do that?) But trump needs to get his ass

Re: [FRIAM] The Regenerative Development Manifesto

quot; the wonderful " Regenerative Manifesto" in many > ways. I want to make sure I give proper attribution. > > David Eric Smith? > > -- > Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. > Center for Emergent Diplomacy > emergentdiplomacy.org > <https://linkprote

Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

> From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 2:25 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary re

Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

uot; and "via evocative contextualization." An example of > the latter is the "Wheel of Life" Thankgka painting I have hanging above my > desk. (attached) > > davew > > > > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024, at 4:25 AM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> T

Re: [FRIAM] The problems of interdisciplinary research

There’s a famous old rant by von Neumann, known at least by those who were around to hear it, or so I was told by Martin Shubik. von Neumann was grumping that “math had become too big; nobody could understand more than 1/4 of it”. As always with von Neumann, the point of saying something

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

I mostly sit on the sidelines in these freewill and choice discussions, because I don’t know what anybody else wants from the terms and the language using them. I wonder whether the people using them know what they want from them, or if they would regard that as a meaningful thing to ask of

Re: [FRIAM] "SSRN-id3978095.pdf" was shared with you

Agreed. There is an even easier logic that _could be_ for these questions. It would center on how much agency is given to a person by inhabiting an office, and where exclusion of the person needs to be done to keep that agency from enabling actions that destroy whatever system “the country”

Re: [FRIAM] The last Lighthouse Keeper in America

I was thinking more like judges and prosecutors than about celebrities. They seem to be the ones who look back at the snarling dog and say I deal with mobsters every day. Get out of my way; I have a job to do. E > On Dec 27, 2023, at 6:28 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > Rambling Ode to (mostly)

Re: [FRIAM] The last Lighthouse Keeper in America

I increasingly think the last keeper of democracy in the U.S. will be a black woman. Everybody else seems afraid. The perennial complaints about Neville Chamberlain come to mind. But still, best wishes for the New Year to you Jochen and to All. Eric > On Dec 26, 2023, at 4:39 AM, Jochen

Re: [FRIAM] Working for the Military Institute of Technology Causes Cognitive Dissonance

Wanted to say thank you for this. I don’t know that I find Dresser’s psychologizing of Chomsky persuasive at all. But it’s nice that what leaks through the general history is Chomsky’s commitment as an operator. I liked that they had the little video clip in there. What comes through (to

Re: [FRIAM] metathesis

So there’s a fun frivolous branch from the cases you list here. I happen to share your allergy at the not-nuclear (can’t even bring myself to type it). But on aks, I learned something a few years ago (10?) from our phonologist colleague Ian Maddieson when we were doing language work together.

Re: [FRIAM] Mirror Neurons & Intersubjective Reality

Just getting to this one, days late…. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 8:58 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > I have not (yet) read this critically, the introduction just tweaked my > (confirmation biased) interests: > > https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-11-brain.html >

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

ly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023, 6:43 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: >> Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara Walker >> an

Re: [FRIAM] Theil

Well in that case, definitely look up the interview he did with Sara Walker and Lee Cronin. I will not comment further. Eric > On Nov 13, 2023, at 5:57 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > > > On 11/13/23 12:06 PM, glen wrote: >> You might want to check the Gurometer. Lex has an entry: >> >>

Re: [FRIAM] more agonism

Yeah; restricted reply. I wasn’t going to write it at the time, but given the linked article below, which is _much_ more sophisticated, I feel obliged to say that the problems are much lower-level. I don’t know if the whole blog is written by Zach Elliot, and I only read the one page you

Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

; <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2feBooks.com=E,1,wsixh_9R4QKLkD8DtVqVcLh8kGp_7BfjsaQ5St9_onGfLCa4Ou6JZjv0T2UFtSbIYPqSp0o5p5t2ZJssBHfXMnLUgHb4gPP2_oEKNle93g,,=1_add=1> > > https://www.ebooks.com/en-us/book/209765777/the-school-in-the-cloud/sugata-mitra/ > > <https:/

Re: [FRIAM] Language Model Understanding

Zang! I had not made that connection. Hmmh. What do I think? I seem to have viewed uninterpreted models much as I view a hammer or a shovel; as a tool in the world for doing a certain job (in this case, a job of perceiving the world in valid ways), neither here nor there w.r.t. questions of

Re: [FRIAM] saRNA

Yeah. My first thought on looking at this was that getting the dosing right is going to be a bear. Now you not only have to deal with variation among people in mRNA expression levels, but you have to manage variation in the amplifier by an RDRP (RNA-dependent RNA polymerase). My thoughts

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy & Autocracy

I think your points are correct, Jochen, while to me there is also another important thing that I want to be able to frame, and find that I cannot in any satisfying way. Having lived under trump et al.’s (and it is a big et al.) daily degradation and violation of every aspect of decent or even

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

rge and persist. This > approach has potential implications for understanding various physical > phenomena, from small-scale fluid dynamics to large-scale weather systems, > and could even offer insights into interdisciplinary areas where physics and > biology converge. > > On Sat,

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

It’s great that the principle of least action applies only to vortices. Kinda like a crucifix, that wards off whatever crucifixes ward off. Eric > On Aug 6, 2023, at 12:09 AM, Stephen Guerin > wrote: > > There were 10 or so intermediate prompts to drive chatGPT to that lab report. > > On

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

Goddamnit. “The fact that you can stir water ….” (Not “store water”) Goddamned spell-changer does not work with a 12-inch screen and eyes that no longer work. > On Aug 5, 2023, at 11:38 AM, David Eric Smith wrote: > > I think you have several variables in play at the same time h

Re: [FRIAM] Swirlies redux

I think you have several variables in play at the same time here, Nick, and that will make it challenging to get clear what-all is involved, and what is controlling in what combinations. 0. Let me say something general, which won’t be comprehensible within this bullet, but which I will unpack

Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

Stephen, Too much good here for me almost-even to be able to read in scarce time, but on your final point 6, about whether various dissipative structures are complex, or not by what measure: Do you know Yoshi Oono’s wonderful idiosyncratic book The Nonlinear World?

Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

organization from simple to > complex via a single mechanism. > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2023, at 7:30 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >> I have had a version of this problem for several years, because I want to >> start with small-molecule chemistry on early planets, and eventual

Re: [FRIAM] What is an agent [was: Philosophy and Science}

I have had a version of this problem for several years, because I want to start with small-molecule chemistry on early planets, and eventually talk about biospheres full of evolving actors. I have wanted to have a rough category system for how many qualitative kinds of transitions I should

Re: [FRIAM] Watch "The Most Important Idea in Physics: The Principle of Least Action - Ask a Spaceman!" on YouTube

Couple of small PSAs: > On Jul 4, 2023, at 12:28 AM, Nicholas Thompson > wrote: > > And why do we keep calling it by it/s cult name, rather than calling it what > it is? The difference between the energy of a moving object conveyed by its > velocity and that conveyed by its position in a

Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

gt; guess the graph "plus" its complementing shadow is also a (larger?) graph. > But are they different things? Or the same thing? And if they're different > things, meta-things, is there an infinite regress lying about? (e.g. the > parameter graph also needs its own parameter graph,

Re: [FRIAM] Trees as wind farms.

My guess would be that plants are not energy-limited. At the scale of a leaf on a tree in a forest, or a fiber in a tassel on a wheat-blade in a field, the delivery rate for wind energy is some tiny number — I won’t try to give it here, because I will surely get it wrong — in contrast to

Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

Stephen, thank you for these, Continuous your paragraphs at the bottom, there is a project I have wanted to pursue off and on for 25 years, and which gets cheaper each year. I probably described it before on the list (maybe more than once), in which case apologies for the repeat. The

Re: [FRIAM] The Three Toed Sloth meets the Shoggoth

I didn’t pay to read the economist, but the summary of the article given in the twitter thread is one I like. Meaning: the framework of reasoning they use seems insightful and of the right kind to me. We had a version of it earlier in the Ted Chiang article linked from the Cory Doctorow

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

of pages to be able to > grok that paper. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023, 7:30 PM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: >> So there’s a rathe

Re: [FRIAM] Radical Empiricism

So there’s a rather concrete way in which one can imagine ChatGPT’s being particularly useful as a time-saver. I have heard it said (and find it persuasive), that philosophy is different from physics because what philosophers want to do and settle for being is different from that for

Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege

r, cortex or no cortex. A human now would be > insignificantly different from a human then. If the apocalypse doesn't > transform us into something other than human, whatever is rebuilt will be > strikingly similar to what we have now. > > > On 5/28/23 11:29, David Eric Smith wrote: >

Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege

ing the false >>>>> dichotomy, dog people tend to think of cats as non-social, selfish, >>>>> blahblah. Cat people tend to think of dogs as slobbery, vapid, etc. It's >>>>> complete nonsense born of arbitrary delusions. >>>>> >>>

Re: [FRIAM] crackpots and privilege

to Wisdom/Stupidity of Crowds? > Seems like LLMs are literally the encapsulation of collective knowledge. > > Sabine's invocation of "Information Cascades" was interesting in contrast > with entrainment and canalization. Will LLMs in some way help us avoid > these short-c

Re: [FRIAM] Brad Smith, MSFT President, on AI

That’s actually a strong plus. > On May 28, 2023, at 7:42 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Another fun fact about Rees is his fascination with bugs. Not so much > misanthropy as a desire to see a proliferation of diverse life forms? > >> On May 28, 2023, at 10:03 AM, Russ Abbott wrote: >> >>

Re: [FRIAM] TruthGPT

Well at least it was written by a person. ChatGPT would have used valid syntax in the first sentence. > On Apr 20, 2023, at 6:35 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > I was modestly impressed when Musk helped to get OpenAI formed and try to be > "righteous" with it's charter back in 201x? But the way

[FRIAM] AI perception

So we’ve always known (or, in the modern, post-philosopher-driven era) that human perception is an active process, interrogating the world with pre-registering and presumptive frameworks to host “experience”, which are then activated by whatever is “out there” providing stimuli. (In fairness,

Re: [FRIAM] AI Musings

There’s a nice subtext to why this is true. It isn’t only the mechanics of the task. People care what bulldozer operators do. > On Mar 30, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Not particularly relevant to your main point but Raj Reddy, close colleague > of Newell and Simon, once

Re: [FRIAM] a little help from my friends

One could tweak this in even the most blunt way to make it more convincing. The author and his son spend a pretty-much unbearable number of hours sitting in one chair typing on keyboards in front of screens, during which the narrator …. Eric > On Mar 30, 2023, at 10:22 AM, Stephen Guerin

Re: [FRIAM] NickC channels DaveW

That might qualify as a DDOS attack. > On Jan 18, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > I suppose pouring all of the FriAM traffic into (even my own bloviations) a > chatbot might be a bit usurious (the fool's errand of a fool errant)? > > On 1/17/23 2:37 PM, glen wrote: >> You might try

Re: [FRIAM] Dope Slap Thread

Thanks Nick, I need to affirm and thank Glen for the other post, which does indeed attach to just what I was requesting. But I won’t be able to get to that today. I wanted to reply to this one yesterday, and will hope the idea hasn’t faded enough to miss what seemed to me an interesting

Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_chloride> and >> potassium chloride <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_chloride>. >>On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 3:21 AM glen > <mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>This smacks of Feferman's claim that "implici

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

. UTC > includes both atomic time and solar time, including the leap intervals. That > time is socially constructed in this way further reinforces that time is not > time, vapid as that point may be in the context of the limits of inference > from astronomy. > > > On 12/28/22

Re: [FRIAM] new thermal tech

The thermoacousktic one is interesting, and surprises me a bit. I worked on these systems a bit in the mid-1990s, when in a kind of purgatory in a navy research lab that mostly did acoustics. Broadly, there are two limiting cases for a thermoacoutic engine. One uses a standing wave and is

Re: [FRIAM] Dope slaps, anyone? Text displaying correctly?

Nick, the text renders. You use words in ways that I cannot parse. Some of them seem very poetic, suggesting that your intended meaning is different in its whole cast from one I could try for. FWIW: as I have heard these discussions over the years, to the extent that there is a productive

Re: [FRIAM] new thermal tech

I assume “delivers” would have been a better word choice than “produces”. After we create better schools to teach our kids government and citizenship, we should move on and teach them to understand thermodynamics. > On Jan 6, 2023, at 12:27 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote: > > Amusing indeed (the

Re: [FRIAM] more bullsh¡t

Your use of chatGTP, Pieter, is to my mind a very interesting thread. There was a columnist for the New York Times many years ago, named William Safire. I don’t even remember now what he wrote about, but he was known, and was significant to me, for being an example of “a good writer”. Safire

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

ay, I'll try to read > this over the next few days. Thanks. > > > On 1/3/23 12:31, David Eric Smith wrote: > > Long a favorite topic of mine. > > > > Let me send you a link; almost-surely not the best, but done with ~1min of > > google searching images: > >

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

Long a favorite topic of mine. Let me send you a link; almost-surely not the best, but done with ~1min of google searching images: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0233384 See the 5th

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

Citing back to Owen: Gil is right. The universe could be infinite, and it is at the least big enough that we have no positive evidence so far that it isn’t infinite. If it were infinitely large, but only finitely old, then at any given place, the only photons that could yet have sped past us

Re: [FRIAM] talking to bots is fun for everyone

Glen, I think today you are fated to suffer death by a thousand tangents. > On Dec 27, 2022, at 2:41 PM, glen wrote: First, though, thank you for saving me on the other point. I was laughing at the structure of the whole conversation by then. (And thinking about Turing tests for people.) I

Re: [FRIAM] talking to bots is fun for everyone

ank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 3:19 AM David Eric Smith <mailto:desm...@santafe.edu>> wrote: > Interesting. Lack of global awareness duly noted. > > But also, can you ch

Re: [FRIAM] talking to bots is fun for everyone

Interesting. Lack of global awareness duly noted. But also, can you check me on this?: > On Dec 26, 2022, at 7:21 PM, glen wrote: > > This exchange was interesting. I've never seen ⊃° used. > > ⋄⋄ > me: What is the difference between ⊃ and ⊢. > > gpt: The symbol "⊃"

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

I remember, as a kid, finding this idea wonderful, after reading one or another biography of Tesla. Probably one of them was Prodigal Genius, by John O’Neill. I remember at some young age, I had a chance to ask a power engineer about this, and got a kind pat on the head, and was told that the

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

I doubt the answer would be interesting, but one could give it as a Fermi problem to an undergraduate geology class (who don’t do Fermi problems; but the physicists won’t know any geology). Terawatt-scale extraction of geothermal energy will increase the effective conduction of heat from the

Re: [FRIAM] models

fMichael%20Huemer=E,1,GCAjVsLoRwQbraVFFet0wN9K5TC-LyJMknzc6tkNO6qO8gY6c5hdskjYh2mbSV3nYOFzPmgj8kWNSzhWoh2zW2-L8fzUQDYGjFOsPo3SmhUl5tS-3uxpaCokZARm=1> > ... though I disagree with almost everything he writes. 8^D > > > On 12/10/22 07:45, David Eric Smith wrote: >> Glen, it looks like t

Re: [FRIAM] models

Glen, it looks like there were two copies of the same pain link there. The one on ethical intuitionism seems to have been missing. Do you still have it handy? Eric > On Dec 9, 2022, at 4:11 PM, glen wrote: > > Well, sure. You can always split hairs. But, generally, they're not such >

Re: [FRIAM] models

n.b. this is a fun note overall, and my only responding to one tiny part of it is not meant as a disregard of the rest; just acknowledgment that I am not prepared to imagine I can say anything original over much of the framing of the question. But, to a detail: > On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:44 PM,

Re: [FRIAM] For Nick: tornadoes in the infrared

This is rather magnificent. And the stable structure is an octagon. If I don’t mis-remember, the stable vortex winds we see on the pole(s?) of Saturn is hexagonal. Hmm. Packing of conical objects in a sphere…. Eric > On Nov 30, 2022, at 9:50 PM, Stephen Guerin > wrote: > > One is as

Re: [FRIAM] collective sheepishness

I wonder if there are ADHD sheep, who always want to move because after a few seconds they are bored where they are. In a random assignment of leadership (leadersheep?), the ADHD ones might show up to take the lead role much more often, since they want to move much more often. Come to think

Re: [FRIAM] (not) leaving Twitter

On Nov 17, 2022, at 12:23 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > > The old Los Alamos National Bank, LANB, was founded by a LANL scientist as an > antidote to big-bank homogenization. There are still hints of that origin in > https://www.linkedin.com/company/los-alamos-national-bank/ >

Re: [FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

Could we split the difference and put it half-way between the two? That way we would be an even number of hours offset from India. > On Nov 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock changes... and I thought the > Sunshine Act >

Re: [FRIAM] moral of the story?

Well that’s a relief. > On Oct 21, 2022, at 7:07 PM, glen wrote: > > Experiments Spell Doom for Decades-Old Explanation of Quantum Weirdness >

[FRIAM] What is the response when bad faith is pervasive and coordinated?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/28/us/politics/election-activists-voter-challenges.html To moan about this may have some small role early, to try to raise awareness (to compensate for the absence of a

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

It’s funny; I know Bert. One of our colleagues played a role in bringing him out to work at Google in Tokyo. A mathematician (Will Cavendish) who has part-time support at IAS https://www.ias.edu/scholars/will-cavendish is also interested in the mathematical dimensions of this, though I

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

There is a formalism for discrete-event dynamical systems known as “bond graphs”. I haven’t read much about it, but Alan Perelson did some work on this when he was young and not famous. Bond graphs seem to be a slightly more flexible construction than hypergraphs, and they contain a subset

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

When I was a very very little kid, there was a “question” my parents pointed out to me, which they thought might be an important puzzle to work through, but they were busy enough holding life together (more or less like hoping they could keep the various dams from breaking from one day to the

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

Very nice line in Hossenfelder's podcast, which works because of her rather Aspergers delivery. What one hears (with a fully sincere affect): The society of truth-loving men no longer exists. Had there been a written version, one might have found: The “Society of Truth-Loving Men” no longer

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

; they're so pitiable?) What we need is an education program that gives the > pathetic True Believers some tools that help them climb out of their hole. > But like the cops responding to a call from a homeless camp littered with > human feces and used needles, educating the True

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 6:42 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > > 2. In practice, do the edge cases that Roger mentioned effectively get added > into the rewrite rules for the grammar or are they a separate kind of thing? > > The edge cases are yours to deal with, they're totally legit potential >

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Yes. Needing to do graph canonicalization deep in a loop that must run many times was a core problem for these guys: https://cheminf.imada.sdu.dk/mod/ They are very Very concerned to use the most efficient algorithm known at any time for graph isomorphism and

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

On 3: https://depth-first.com/articles/2020/05/04/stereochemistry-and-atom-parity-in-smiles/ > On Oct 13, 2021, at 12:54 PM, Jon Zingale wrote: > > Thanks Roger, Marcus. I am a newbie in this area and

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Would this be of any use? https://www.molgen.de/ It sounded like you were doing something that you want to be fast and in-line, and I don’t know if MOLGEN grants an API that offers that degree of flexibility. People I know who have worked with it say that it is fairly

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

Yeah I don’t know. For some years I was working in ocean-floor engineering, and got a feel for seawater. For all the devices you design, it is all-surrounding and omnipresent. It relentlessly intrudes through any crack, seam, or pore, and it corrodes whatever it touches. For whatever

Re: [FRIAM] Unexpected success

I believe this observation connects to the thread on bogus medical predictions by AIs. Also to the thread on “we speak different languages”, where somebody ran a translator program on the most-trollish non-language of the comments sections on social-media posts. > To become successful [in

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

. That one will stay with me. Eric > On Oct 8, 2021, at 2:48 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > David Eric Smith wrote: > > "I cannot juggle hundreds of variables, and produce a result that would fail > _any_ test for randomness. I can conceive that maybe there are

Re: [FRIAM] Copernican thresholds; was: Newborn Heart Rate

to be less bored, to have more options, or just to see something really new, would be great. Eric > On Oct 8, 2021, at 2:48 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > David Eric Smith wrote: > > "I cannot juggle hundreds of variables, and produce a result that would fail > _any_

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

Gilding the lily, since I don’t disagree with anything that has specifically been said. I have felt like, somewhere between the deliberate distortion of Emerson that reads “consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds” (Fun ref see

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

I think about as opposite to nugatory as one could get. Wu wei more like having an affect “get itself done” without making a big noise about doing it. A kind of more efficient getting-done by avoiding the distractions of self-conscious effort. > On Oct 3, 2021, at 11:35 PM, > wrote: > >

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

her. Maybe some viruses are alive in some definitions and some are > not? > > From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On > Behalf Of David Eric Smith > Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 9:39 AM > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <mailto:friam@redf

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

tand it a category error is a type error in natural language. Most >> people ignore them outside of tight, logical discourse I think analogous to >> the behavior of forgiving compilers. >> >> It's been 50 years since I studied compiler theory but I'm sure someone will >&

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

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Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

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Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

I feel in this, Frank, like your comments will fall on deaf ears, for an interesting reason. The thing you summarize for Nick is precisely the thing he wants to object to. It seems to me that Nick believes that Zeno’s arrow paradox, https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/paradox-zeno/

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

Doh! I’m such a dolt, watching the pretty pictures. They’re both Turing complete, correct? Is there a natural sense of writing a program that, in that algorithmic representation, you know is somehow algorithmically deep in 110, which then becomes something algorithmically interesting under

Re: [FRIAM] Advertents and Inadvertents

Yeah. What a guy. I had the impression there wasn’t anything he could master. Currently: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dabacon/ Eric > On Sep 24, 2021, at 6:09 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > I once had an office by Dave Bacon. Years later, and for many

Re: [FRIAM] ivermectin

he Nazis, often at midnight. Hitler's dogs, Hitler's drugs, Hitler's home > in Austria, etc. For me it feels as if the past is haunting us. There might > be a psychological aspect behind (collective) spooky phenomena :-/ > > -J. > > > ---- Original message >

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

Yes, this seems really important to me: > That "antifa affiliated" guy who shot Tiny is probably susceptible to peer > pressure to *stop* carrying his gun to town, much like the Proud Boys coach > their participants not to start fights and always cooperate with the cops. > The more organized

Re: [FRIAM] Advertents and Inadvertents

Hi Nick, Sorry to be slow. A dozen branches on the exchange so far in which it would be nice to engage, but I have to forego almost-all those. There may not be much I can offer to the question you ask below, even by way of opinion. My general take is that if somebody wants to build

Re: [FRIAM] ivermectin

So the Monbiot article below is really interesting. Let me put in the link to a pdf (I don’t know whether legitimate or in violation of some paywall) to an article I mentioned before: https://campus.albion.edu/gcocks/files/2013/08/Fascinating-Fascism.pdf

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

That might be where the Havana syndrome is coming from. There actually are microwave-powered agents stalking these various CIA, and they need to recharge in situ from time to time, with a little sideband cooking of the biologicals in the beamline. > On Sep 23, 2021, at 5:17 AM, Marcus Daniels

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

What do you call a Jewish Uber driver in Texas who takes women to clinics, because an upstander accepts danger and difficulty? An Uber-mensch. > On Sep 18, 2021, at 2:20 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > >> More mob justice: >> >> US rightwing group targets academics with Professor Watchlist >>

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

; above. >>> >>> Frankly, you shouldn’t have any faith that my average psychology colleague >>> will rescue me. 90% of them, directly or indirectly, make their living off >>> The Hard Problem. >>> >>> EricC and JonZ might do

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

Quick answer to your specific question below, Steve. Whether or not it says more about the concept or about my accidental window on it, of course, I cannot know. But to me, the cleanest example of a true epiphenomenon is the way neoclassical economics in its pure Arrow-Debreu form treats

Re: [FRIAM] Could this possibly be true?

...@gmail.com> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwordpress.clarku.edu%2fnthompson%2f=E,1,7DujyKj5BlPA-iLJk3HDHbbYf60pN4x1wLc2-4y8BhU7T98FngpaBqZeRQ7hpECyZN4GzK-mPCBf7x_afUfzbyUr1CYriZXSYMJPqZQk=1> > > From: F

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