Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-08 Thread Steve Smith
Cody/Glen - I like this conceit of dreaming as disinhibited/discursive next-token generation. As a sometimes *lucid* dreamer myself, I feel as if that is what is very close to what is going on for me... my best lucid dreaming is hypnapompic... happening as I awake or as I drift in and out

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-08 Thread glen
One of the things we could easily try is cumulative, iterative prompting, particularly with some of the lower scoring responses. Dreams are nothing but lower scoring responses, right? While you're sleeping, your evaluation/selection mechanism is inhibited, which allows you to invest a little

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-07 Thread cody dooderson
I asked ChatGPT if it dreamed and it said that it didn't. However, is adversarial training of neural networks much different than dreaming? A new class from MITX showed up in my email today. It is called *Minds and Machines: An introduction to philosophy of mind, exploring consciousness, reality,

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-07 Thread Steve Smith
Great observations as usual Glen...   I have lapsed into *listening* to almost all long-form writing, whether fiction or non  and it definitely distorts (torts?) my perception/conception of the material/subject/message.   A corollary to McLuhan's Medium/Message duality?  I find the

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-07 Thread glen
Both keyboards and pencils are part of our extended phenotype and play (multiple) roles in interoception, including the induction of inter-subjectivity. I've forgotten who it is, but there's someone on this list who *listens* to our posts, rather than reads them. I tried that with a blog post

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-04 Thread Frank Wimberly
Read Blood Meridian, Nick. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Sep 4, 2023, 1:13 PM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Hi, Steve, > > Thanks for your observations concerning bad hand writing and early typing > as shaping The Mind, for better

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-04 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Hi, Steve, Thanks for your observations concerning bad hand writing and early typing as shaping The Mind, for better or for worse. My handwriting is hopeless. I cannot even read my own notes. Not sure what it has done to my mind, but it is something else that we share. I know I am bending the

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-04 Thread Steve Smith
Great list Carl!  And more interesting yet to me: /I would like to feed.../ /...into the AI and see what millennium long sci-fi it could turn out. / I'm definitely fascinated by the implied interpolation (and extrapolation?) an LLM can do in what is by definition firstly *linguistic*

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Carl Tollander
Gregory Benford's "Galactic Center Saga". Greg Bear's "Darwin's Radio" and "The Way" series. Benford, Bear, and David Brin also extended Asimov's "Foundation" series - more stuff actually happens Larry Niven's "Ringworld" and all its spinoffs and prequels, anything with the character Louis Wu in

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Frank Wimberly
I had posted a link to an article about a mass shooting in Norway in response to a claim that most mass shootings occur in the U.S. I can't find that post so I'll repeat it. This was only one attack but 77 people were killed.

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Frank Wimberly
food is awesome. In >> South Korea, Thailand, Vietnam and Japan as well. >> >> -J. >> >> >> ---- Original message >> From: Steve Smith >> Date: 9/3/23 8:59 PM (GMT+01:00) >> To: friam@redfish.com >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science F

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Frank Wimberly
l. > > -J. > > > Original message > From: Steve Smith > Date: 9/3/23 8:59 PM (GMT+01:00) > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books > > Jochen - > > I thought of you more than few times on my long walkabout through > Re

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
. Original message From: Steve Smith Date: 9/3/23 8:59 PM (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books Jochen - I thought of you more than few times on my long walkabout through Red/Purple-state 'murrica...  mostly your concerns

Re: [FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Steve Smith
Jochen - I thought of you more than few times on my long walkabout through Red/Purple-state 'murrica...  mostly your concerns a year or two ago about traveling to the US "because gun violence".   I was in the heart of "gun country" through this trip and saw a few artifacts of that which

[FRIAM] Science Fiction Books

2023-09-03 Thread Jochen Fromm
I have read "Highway of Eternity" from Clifford D. Simak this weekend, one of the books from the golden age of science fiction which is comparable to "The city and the Stars" from Arthur C. Clarke and "The end of eternity" from Isaac Asimov. Both belong to my favorite books. Modern authors