Hi Dark, thanks for your note!
Well, with the way this technology is going, just wait a few minutes and I'll
bet it will be in your price range! ;)
Have a wonderful day and talk with you soon!…
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Just to sort of close this particular thread maybe and merge it with
the other, I'm considering the pros and cons of obtaining a 3d scanner
printer as opposed to having molds cast.
It's a tough call.
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Hi Decota.
Well it's probably
Right now, the problem with consumer grade 3d printers is size. I
could get a setup for ... I think about $2500 to $3500 U.S. That would
include a 3d scanner. I could then take and modify another set of
generic dice with a 3d modeling program.
The trouble I see is two-fold.
The printers are going
Well Decota, in that case it would depend heavily on the price you were
charging for each individual dye. Given however that computer alternatives
are available for free, I would be concerned if this was too much.
I would for example be willing to go 7.5 usd per dye, but not too much more
Hi kara.
I'm afraid that that amount of money, close to 800 pounds is not exactly
what I'd considder cheap, albeit that I know that in the access community
that sort of money is usual (look at the price of braille displays).
ultimately it's something I can see being a good idea if a person
body, but not his spirit...'
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Hi kara.
I'm afraid that that amount of money, close to 800 pounds is not exactly
what
While I totally agree with you, I want you to consider the difference
between a piece of software and a piece of plastic.
I am hoping to keep the cost of making these dice down, but I want to
reiterate. I'm not in this to make a fortune, and I probably won't be
making much of a profit, either.
My
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
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Hi kara.
I'm afraid that that amount of money, close to 800
Hi Decota.
Well it's probably going to be a case of seeing what the thing costs, then
letting us know how much and then seeing whether enough people would be
interested at the price as you said.
I'm not saying we should get the things for free, or even at the same price
as people pay for
Hi Decota.
I see where your going with this, sort of a kickstarter for a printer, and
it's a good idea, indeed judging by the 3000 or so the last kick starter got
it should be possible.
Perhaps pledging amounts based on how many dice people want, then totting up
the cost of the printer
: [Audyssey] Gaming dice
Hi kara.
I'm afraid that that amount of money, close to 800 pounds is not exactly
what I'd considder cheap, albeit that I know that in the access community
that sort of money is usual (look at the price of braille displays).
ultimately it's something I can see being
Hi tom.
that is the usual practice with D100's, indeed as I said most of my friends
don't use them anyway. however doing it witha d10, a coin toss and another
D10 for a d20 was doable, but somewhat ircsome, for all it was necessary
being that the faces on the d20 were too small to braille.
Hi tom.
heroes of the maze was incredibly cool, though I haven't found any
references to it since (even on wikipedia). It was indeed quite surprising
that a specialist boarding school would have such a game, and is one of the
few good memories I have of that school when i was 9-10.
Then
Hi tom.
that is true, especially where you have to have really small lables such as
on the d10's. mine are still okay, but then again I switched to using gma
dice because it's simply easier.
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Hi,
And braille labels also don't stick on dice for too long. I use to
braille label a standard set of playing dice and the sticky stuff on
the labels would wear off sooner or later and I'd have to turn around
and label it all over again. So even if we could label all our d4
Hi Tom.
that sounds more along the lines of tabeltop wargames than the sort of
tabletop rpg I was thinking of. I've never really had access to such things
myself simply because overview o the board and the various units is a
pain, plus, while it's something I'd like to try, I will
Hi Decota.
would love to try talisman, but sadly all the printed cards etc put me off
rather which is a shame since I love the rules and so on (as I said, my
brother is an avid fan and owns the base game plus several expantions).
I actually contributed 20 usd to the project, but i agree the
This seems reasonable to me.
Christina
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Hi Decota.
would love to try talisman, but sadly all
Yes, this seems reasonable to me as well.
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This seems reasonable to me.
Christina
I was just wondering if anyone has thought of 3D printing as a possible
way to get brailled dice? There is a lot of experimentation being done
using 3D printers. It might be possible to have someone print dice with
the brailled numbers on them. I have no idea about how much that would
cost,
work.
The main problem however is that braille printers are damnably expensive,
even standard ones.
Beware the grue!
dark.
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I
Hi Eleanor,
Perhaps, but once again the raised print or braille would have to be
large enough to feel. A lot of the d10 and d20 dice I've scene are too
small to make 3d printing a workable solution in my opinion.
Cheers!
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I was just wondering
Hi Dark,
That is what it was. A tabletop war game. I never suggested it was
anything else. :D
I had a couple of games like that. One was called World At War or
something like that and you could command units of infantry, tanks,
and so on. Kind of like the game of Risk only instead of a board you
Hi Charles,
Yes, but that creates a secondary problem. When I label things I
always try to use clear label tape so that someone sighted such as my
wife or son can read it if need be. However, if I use super glue on it
that will pretty much nicks that idea as the glue will put a coding of
white
Hi Dark,
Interesting. That Heroes of the Maze sounds a lot like the RPG board
game Dark World.
In Dark World you could choose your champion from a dwarf, ranger,
knight, or I think it was an elf as I recall. Anyway the board is a
giant castle and your champion goes through the board room by
Hi Dakotah,
Well, in terms of buying a set I'd definitely pay at least $20 USD
perhaps $25 USD for a full set of brailed gaming dice. Probably $30
USD max. Beyond that I would probably make do with the GMA dice
rolling program simply because anything more than $30 is too much for
a set of dice
Hi Tom.
well wargaming is pretty much it's own genre anyway, indeed I know people
that buy specific minitures and rule books for specific games, paint their
own miniatures etc.
The only war game I've ever really fancied has been battletech, since that
was based on having four or five mech
Hi tom.
that sounds a little more complex than heroes of the maze was, in heroes of
the maze there were no items and no melee wrating, merely a standard set of
rules for each battle. it was really just a giant game of chance, but a
rather fun one for all of that.
That darkworld game is
Hi Dark,
Right. I'm interested to see what the next generation of Time of
Conflict will be like since it sounds like we will be able to create
custom units, maps, and campaigns which would rock.
However, that said, I plan to upgrade my Toshiba to Windows 8 in the
next couple of months and since
no reason why not ofcause you would have to have the 3d printer, and
then ofcause how big could a home 3d printer print dice.
pluss printing with the braille dots.
it would be easier and probably cheaper for those of us to buy the dice.
At 02:29 AM 4/22/2013, you wrote:
I was just wondering if
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Subject: [Audyssey] Gaming dice
I was just wondering if anyone has thought of 3D printing as a possible way
to get brailled dice? There is a lot of experimentation being done using
Well tom leaving aside the microsoft issues (since as you know i've yet to
find a good use for windows 7, let alone 8), I am very impressed with Time
of Conflict's ability with map overview, and i look forward to seeing what
the next version does.
If yu'd asked me a few years ago to pick
Interesting Kara, not something I've heard of before, though I'd be
surprised if the 3D printer could actually create a shape as complex as a
tesolated dodeckahedron.
Sadly though I doubt I'd have the money to buy such a printer just for the
dice, indeed if they cost similar to current access
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Interesting Kara, not something I've heard of before, though I'd be
surprised if the 3D printer could actually create a shape as complex as a
tesolated dodeckahedron.
Sadly though I doubt I'd have the money to buy such a printer just for the
dice, indeed
Interesting christina, though as Tom said even if you could create the dice,
labeling them might be another matter, plus obviously not everyone has
access to one of these printers.
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Right. But, someone can print them and sell them.
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Interesting christina, though as Tom said even
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Interesting christina, though as Tom said even if you could create the
dice,
labeling them might be another matter, plus obviously not everyone has
access to one of these printers.
Beware
I'll tell you this. If I was able to get the program started, I would
be using casting. The mold would be pretty expensive, and the material
wouldn't be too bad, but it wouldn't be remarkably cheap either.
I wouldn't gouge, but I'd also want to make at least a little profit,
because I love you
One more thing.
In most cases with an intellectual development, people offer discounts
because they want to make less of a roffit. So, let's say, someone
offers a pack whereby you buy two games for, let's say, the price of
one and a half games.
I wouldn't be able to do that very easily with the
, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote:
Right. But, someone can print them and sell them.
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Good luck.
Please let me know If you need any help.
Christina
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One more thing.
In most
Awesome.
Getting profet is fair; you'll be putting in time and energy.
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I'll tell you
Hi Dark, the ones I'm looking at are from about 1500 to 3000 USD and can
certainly print shapes like non-traditional gaming dice.
They can print incredibly complex shapes and parts to assemble items.
Of the least expensive printer I just looked at, it can print a volume up to
5.5 by 5.5 by 5.5
Cool. How much is the resin?
Christina
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Hi Dark, the ones I'm looking at are from about 1500
Hi Christina, I just saw a pack for 1399 USD, which consists of the printer and
four cartridges. Here is the linkie:
http://cubify.com/store/offers/print_pack/index.aspx
I totally dig that you can print in glow-in-the-dark green and blue! Woohoo!
Fun fun!
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Thanks.
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Hi Christina, I just saw a pack for 1399 USD, which consists of the printer
Hi folks.
I have a couple of questions for you.
First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to
produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided
jobbies. I mean fours, eights, tens, twenties, percentiles... stuff
like that. Are any people or companies making
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Hi folks.
I have a couple of questions for you.
First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to
produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided
jobbies
I certainly would.
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Hi.
There was a kickstarter a few months ago to produce the dice
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Hi.
There was a kickstarter a few months ago to produce the dice but it never
got off the ground.
I'd definitely bbe interested and I know a couple of other who would buy
them as well.
Christina
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Hi Dakotah,
I for one would think this is a good idea. Not sure how many blind
people would invest in this venture, but it would be nice. the only
braille dice I know of are the typical six sided kind you can get at
any rehab center or independent living aids site. There have been many
times I
Hi Decota.
Sadly not that I've heard. a few years ago, I tried to persuade the rnib to
produce gaming dice on the basis that with gaming dice and access to a
manual (and often not even that), blind people could be totally equal in the
tabletop gaming sphere, but they flat out told me most of
And don't forget D4's there Tom :D.
I do remember the kickstarter project that people mentioned, and I even
donated 20 usd, but as was said it didn't get going and I got my money back
sadly.
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Hi Dark,
That's unfortunate, but the fact of the matter is the majority of
people with visual problems, either blind or low vision, are over 60.
The RNIB and other organizations like them tend to market solely to
the largest common denominator leaving youngsters like you and I out
in the cold.
Hi Folks,
Dana Jorgensen tried to make gaming dice through KickStarter but was
unsuccessful
$3,543 was pledged of $11,000 goal
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/592087154/braille-dice
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Hi folks.
I have a couple of questions for you.
First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to
produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided
jobbies. I
Hi Charles,
No. When you get into special gaming dice such as the d20 dice used in
Dungeons and Dragons they don't have the little holes or indention's
found on your typical dice for Monopoly etc. The special gaming die
such as the d10 and d20 have the print numbers 1 through 10 or 1
through 20
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Hi folks.
I have a couple of questions for you.
First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to produce
gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided
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Hi Charles,
No. When you get into special gaming dice such as the d20 dice used in
Dungeons and Dragons they don't have the little holes or indention's
found on your typical dice for Monopoly etc. The special gaming die
such as the d10 and d20 have
Hi Charles,
You are beginning to see the problem. The dice would have to be made
from scratch with the blind in mind and like the standard gaming dice
the braille 10 and 20 sided dice would have to be larger than their
print counterparts in order to accommodate the braille numbers. There
are even
Hi tom.
would that game be talisman? my brother is an avid player, but sadly there
is no accessible version.
As regards the rnib, well I think at least with the rnib there is
considderably more involved than simply appealing to the lowest common
denominator. All their publications,
Hi charlse.
On rpg dice, they usually have printed numbers rather than holes. This makes
sense since obviously you wouldn't want to be sitting their counting 17
holes on a 20 sided dice for instance, so no, they are not accessible I'm
afraid.
the closest you can do is stick braille lables
Hi tom.
oddly enough when i was little we used to play a game called heroes of the
maze. It was like a proto rpg, where you played knights invading a maze to
battle an ogre and win magic rings. once you defeated the ogre, you got to
play as him and hunt down other players, and for every win
Hi charlse.
with a d10 certainly you can determine the top of the dice by touch if you
are carefull, particularly if you use one hand to stop the dice rolling and
then check the upper face with the other, though it's quite surprising how
stable it is especially if it's a larger size. The same
Hi Tom.
Brailling a D100 would be loopy, but to be honest most rp players I know
don't own d100's, indeed I've heard people complain that they have so many
faces it is too difficult to spot which one is uppermost.
usually what most people do is have two d10's, with the numbers 1-10, and
Hi Dark,
That is pretty much what I would do as well. I don't own a d100 dice
because they are hard to read, and can't be brailed in any case. So I
would just roll a couple of d10's and do the math to come up with a
reasonable random dice roll for stat checks if there were any braille
d10's to be
Hi Dark,
Interesting. I've never heard of the Hero's Maze game you speak of but
it sounds darn cool. The dice with swords and shields on them sounds
similar to the game I have, but is called something else. Sounds to me
like there are more games with picture die than I first thought.
Cheers!
Hi,
And braille labels also don't stick on dice for too long. I use to
braille label a standard set of playing dice and the sticky stuff on
the labels would wear off sooner or later and I'd have to turn around
and label it all over again. So even if we could label all our d4,
d10, and d20
Hi Dark,
No, it isn't Talisman. I think the game I'm thinking of was called
Battle Master or something like that. Its a strategy game where one
player commands an army of knights, wizards, etc and the other plays
ogres, goblins, and orcs. The roll of the dice determines how many
skulls are placed
Ok.
Huge message that i'll send along.
First of all, I love, love Talisman. I think it's an amazing game.
I've played it a lot and own the base game, with plans to obtain
expansion packs.
Second, as reguards d100 dice, I've never seen a huge 100 sided dice,
but what I have seen is an oddly
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