Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-20 Thread Roger
> >Russel> I get the message. I'll go away. > >Christ, stop the passive aggresive stuff will you? And get a thicker >skin when people trash you suggestion. If you feel so strongly about >it, and if moving to CMake or some other tool will help you contribute >in a major way to geeqie, then go ahea

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-20 Thread John Stoffel
> "Russel" == Russel Winder writes: Russel> On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 07:43 -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: Russel> […] >> I have never heard of Meson before.  Certainly I may not be paying >> enough attention, but it's hard to believe it is mainstream yet. Russel> GStreamer for one is looking to rep

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2016-11-19 08:55, Greg Troxel wrote: > In the particular case I'm referring, the shiny things that replaced > autotools was scons, and it's still causing problems, even years later. Can you share some more details? What build/host/target triple? C, C++ or some other language? Executable or

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-19 Thread Roger
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 08:44:13AM +, Russel Winder wrote: >On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 14:58 -0500, Roger wrote: >> I have used AutoTools for my or others' projects as well in the past, >> and find?? >> AutoTools quite stable, albeit sometimes cryptic to configure at >> times. >> >> I've tried ed

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Russel Winder writes: >> Before adopting a new build system, I'd like to see written >> requirements >> for the build system, specifically including portability and cross >> building, and to see an analysis of how there will be no regressions. > > This is a clear management tool to say "we are n

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-19 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 14:58 -0500, Roger wrote: > I have used AutoTools for my or others' projects as well in the past, > and find  > AutoTools quite stable, albeit sometimes cryptic to configure at > times. > > I've tried educating myself with CMake, but found only low-level > documentation  > pa

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-19 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 07:43 -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: […] > I have never heard of Meson before.  Certainly I may not be paying > enough attention, but it's hard to believe it is mainstream yet. GStreamer for one is looking to replace Autotools with Meson. > While CMake is now reasonably common,

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-19 Thread Russel Winder
On Thu, 2016-11-17 at 07:53 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > […] > > I see no need currently to even think about a new build tool. > Autoconf/automake serves what it is used for and it does it good. It > would take many work to change to other one. > > From the fact that the man power is very limited

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-19 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 12:39 -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > […] > I've never heard of mezon; if looking for a buildtool in python, why > not > scons?  I've used scons and I liked it the best of any build tools. I have actually been known to work on SCons from time to time over the last decade, and

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-16 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Russel, Am Mi den 16. Nov 2016 um 11:40 schrieb Russel Winder: > Geeqie currently has an Autotools build. A lot of the GTK world seems > to be switching to Meson, or at least trying it out. JetBrains CLion > only accepts CMake builds for projects

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-16 Thread Greg Troxel
Ian Zimmerman writes: > But in the context of geeqie, I'd say don't fix it as long as it's not > broken. If it breaks, we can return to this discussion. That's a very good point. geeqie seems to need more people to hack on the code, and the build system really isn't a problem at all. signa

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2016-11-16 14:58, Roger wrote: > I have used AutoTools for my or others' projects as well in the past, > and find AutoTools quite stable, albeit sometimes cryptic to configure > at times. It's time for me to chime in even though I fear this is heading straight for the bike shed ;-) I have fou

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-16 Thread Roger
Using "fgrep /usr/portage/* -r -e meson" on my Gentoo system, only results in media-plugins/gst-transcoder and media-video/pitivi packages using or optionally using the meson build system. I think the Meson Wikipedia might be indicating GNOME, GTK+, GLib and GStreamer might be optionally provid

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-16 Thread Roger
I have used AutoTools for my or others' projects as well in the past, and find AutoTools quite stable, albeit sometimes cryptic to configure at times. I've tried educating myself with CMake, but found only low-level documentation packaged with or available via CMake's website. All CMake's other

Re: [Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-16 Thread Greg Troxel
Russel Winder writes: > Geeqie currently has an Autotools build. A lot of the GTK world seems > to be switching to Meson, or at least trying it out. JetBrains CLion > only accepts CMake builds for projects (at least currently). Is the > Geeqie team committed to using Autotools, or if an alternat

[Geeqie-devel] Build for Geeqie

2016-11-16 Thread Russel Winder
Geeqie currently has an Autotools build. A lot of the GTK world seems to be switching to Meson, or at least trying it out. JetBrains CLion only accepts CMake builds for projects (at least currently). Is the Geeqie team committed to using Autotools, or if an alternate build were available might it