Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb ext James Homuth: Will the package itself be removed at some point? And if so, I'm assuming Portage will take care of killing it from my system at that point? No, why should it? You have to tell it to do so. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] RE: Firefox 3 stability
Thanks everyone for your feedback. I'm trying firefox-bin now, and it seems stable. I guess this means that my .mozilla stuff isnt the problem.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:44 AM On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote: Richard, I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what command should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive? These days it's much more common to let the desktop do that step for you. With a properly setup desktop, you can remove all references to cdroms and thumbdrives from fstab (leave only permanent mounts for disks etc in there) and rather use the icon that pops up on your desktop when you insert a usb drive. This works because fstab has no special qualities - it's just a list of standard drives you want to have mounted on your computer. What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either gnome or kde -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- I'm using gnome desktop Regadrds, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, all dvds use UDF, ISO9660 is a cd fs Wrong: UDF is just one filesystem amongst others and ISO-9660 is a general standard. In special: Video DVD players do not even need to understand UDF at all. They just search the first 1000 sectors for the *.IFO file signature and depend on the internal IFO structures. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote: 2008/7/2 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote: Dirk, Sorry, I had misunderstood. But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted. I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea. Regards, Richard. Do you have hal installed? It could be installed as a dependency of something else. Also check for ivman as well. Dale :-) :-) -- Dale, Yes, I have HAL installed. Is that enough to auto-mount a device? It seems that it is. Regards, Richard. From what I recall, it takes hal and one other program to automount a CD, DVD, etc. I use hal and ivman myself. I think supermount or something like that was another way but if I recall correctly supermount has sort of fell off the map. Someone correct me if I am wrong here. It's been a while and sort of missed a lot of changes. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media
Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some years ago, the Music Mafia did start to sell defective disks that look similar to CDs, but this is a different story. Yep, I recently had an dvd which didn't play on my notebook, couldn't read a single block :( Luckily I didn't buy it. In these days you have to be *really* careful what to buy. BTW: a friend of mine is lawyer and music producer. I'm trying to convince him to admonish those companies which intentionally sell broken products ... would be nice if he'd really do this :) Joerg, do you feel confident enough in the area to provide a expertise which could stand in court ? I tries to do this via the Verbraucherzentrale - they have not been interested. You first need to check whether you may sue someone at all if you are not the Verbraucherzentrale. What you may do is to forbid mixing these non-CDs with standard compliant media in the same rack in a shop and you may force the shops to add hints that the rack to the left does not include CDs. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.
2008/7/3, James Homuth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Will the package itself be removed at some point? And if so, I'm assuming Portage will take care of killing it from my system at that point? Newer versions of portage, will take care of those standard blockers themself. http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/zmedico/2008/04/22/portage_dependency_resolution_decision_m http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/zmedico/2008/05/06/blocker_conflict_automatic_uninstall http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/zmedico/2008/05/09/blocking_package_file_collisions http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/portage/main/trunk/RELEASE-NOTES http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/portage/main/trunk/NEWS -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools - [I'm done with this crap]
Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, as far as I can tell you need medical attention. Please, from now on do not annoy me with unwanted e-mail containing advertisements of cdrtools or information about the attacks against you. You ddid by accident remove cdrtools instead of the crap. But I can live without problems if you stop sending incorrect claims about cdrtools! Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 02:24:49PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? That is how I found FF2, and why I initially switched to Galeon. But when Firefox-3.0-r2 came out I gave FF another try, and I don't regret it at all. FF3 is a vast improvement over FF2 for me, it's quicker, more robust, takes up less memory, and the UI is a lot nicer. FF2 used to memory leak like an old man with diareah, but no problems with FF3. And I'm talking about the mozilla-firefox package, not -bin. For -bin I have 2.0.0.14 installed in case I ever need to use FF2 for something...I don't know what I would use it for but it can't hurt to have it. -- If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman pgpRJbfZAbTx3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: where is emacs-cvs-23.0.60 ?
At Wed, 02 Jul 2008 23:08:11 -0500 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see mention of emacs-cvs-23.0.60 is several places including bugs.gentoo.org, but I can't find it in portage. I am running 23.0.50 now with success. What ever is the most recent cvs version is what will get installed if you run `emerge emacs-cvs' The emerge will tap the emacs cvs repository for the latest code committed there. Run `emerge -vp emacs-cvs' and you should see it says it is installing emacs-cvs-23.0.9 Which really just means the latest cvs code committed. Thank you. I had guessed something like that, but . wouldn't compile for me. I submitted a bug report via M-x report-emacs-bug and it was promptly fixed. Then . compiled and I am running .60 without problems. Thank you again for the clear explanation. allan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Aaron Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those still searching for background on this topic to try and understand the effects and discussions of the GPL vs CDDL licensing in other distros and how this may affect your use on Gentoo, you may find the respective articles on wikipedia instructive. Don't just read the brief blurbs included in Wikipedia, but take a look at the citations included in the articles as well. I'm not sure it gives all sides of the discussion, but it should be illuminating on some of the background details that people were requesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools#Licensing_change http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrkit#Fork Aaron P.S. I'm fully aware that the text of the wiki articles may be considered biased, that's a topic to take up on Wikipedia and not here. I'm just using the articles as a jumping point to what appear to be primary sources so people can draw their own conclusions. Have you been able to find that the people around cdrkit try to tell people that if I do something it is illegal while the same thing is legal when they do it? If you did not find this, then wikipedia does not seem to be a helful source for information. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Hi, I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 and this is the output: bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how i want to solve this problem. Regards, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Snort
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've installed Snort and BASE on my Gentoo server, which is also my the network router, by following http://lurker.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Snort. It's generated a fair number of alerts over the last few weeks so it looks like it's working. But how can I confirm it's 'preventing' attacks as well as detecting them? Cheers, Dave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhs6RkACgkQx43ifHzpDVUIiwCfSO8DYMX5xqcnfsCLdfLAmWpy TM8AnR3w12Op1C0vWUijLkJseGGQU4sN =d0Y2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Filesystem permissions
Hi list! I'm a bit dissatisfied with the way umask and filesystem permissions work and I'd like to know if a) this is due to misunderstanding on my part and/or b) there is a clean workaround I'm unaware of. Let's say I have a system with various users working on some sensible data. Therefore I have to set up various security policies regarding file permissions and so forth. For example every $HOME-directory should be only readable to the user himself (e.g. for user phil_fl: chown phil_fl:phil:fl; umask 0077 or 0007). Then there might be a common folder for all users in a specific group as a simple way of sharing files. These shall be accessible by every user in the group but by none else, so for the user phil_fl and the group users: chown phil_fl:users; umask 0007. As we see, the umask itself isn't the problem (in this special case) but the group is it, however, there might be cases in which need to change both for special folders. How do I do this without needing any interaction from the users? Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote: Hi, I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 and this is the output: bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied What command produced this error, and what user did you run it as? (whoami will tell you this if you are not certain if you are root or not). Then run the id command with the name of that user as argument and post the output back here. Chances are you are doing it as a regular user who is not a member of the plugdev group If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how i want to solve this problem. What command do you use to mount it manually, and as what user? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] help
help -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools - [I'm done with this crap]
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, as far as I can tell you need medical attention. Please, from now on do not annoy me with unwanted e-mail containing advertisements of cdrtools or information about the attacks against you. You ddid by accident remove cdrtools instead of the crap. Joerg: shut up. right now. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
Hello I have 4 GB of ram and a Intel Core 2 Duo E4500. I compiled the kernel as follows: Processor family Core 2/newer Xeon Subarchitecture Type PC-compatible High Memory Support Off All my remaining packages are compiled as 32 bit binaries. The last switch causes my system to see less than 1 GB of memory: cat /proc/meminfo: MemTotal: 901816 kB AFAIK kernel does not need High Memory Support in case of 64 bit CPUs. What's wrong with my kernel config ? Maybe it does not run as a 64 bit CPU ? thanks for an answer.
[gentoo-user] Grub on a new disk
Hi!
I've recently moved /boot from /dev/hda to /dev/hdd. Then I've
installed grub with
for i in /dev/hd{a,b,d}; do grub-install --recheck $i; done
Now the system boots correctly but it takes ages (10sec) to come from
Grub loading Stage1.5
to
Grub loading, please wait...
and then another 10sec or more to open the menu.
I think I had this problem a long time ago but I can't remember the
solution. Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance!
Florian Philipp
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Filesystem permissions
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'm a bit dissatisfied with the way umask and filesystem permissions work and I'd like to know if a) this is due to misunderstanding on my part and/or b) there is a clean workaround I'm unaware of. Let's say I have a system with various users working on some sensible data. Therefore I have to set up various security policies regarding file permissions and so forth. For example every $HOME-directory should be only readable to the user himself (e.g. for user phil_fl: chown phil_fl:phil:fl; umask 0077 or 0007). Then there might be a common folder for all users in a specific group as a simple way of sharing files. These shall be accessible by every user in the group but by none else, so for the user phil_fl and the group users: chown phil_fl:users; umask 0007. As we see, the umask itself isn't the problem (in this special case) but the group is it, however, there might be cases in which need to change both for special folders. How do I do this without needing any interaction from the users? umask does nothing for you here, it is simply a default starting point for the permissions of new files and directories and the user is completely free to change it to anything they feel like. Yes, this is by design. Yes, this is a very good thing :-) You want to set the setgid bit on the containing directory and chgrp that directory to the group involved. A bit of googling will help you further, if you get stuck or have no idea what I could possibly be on about, post back and I'll post the full story. It's quite involved and if it were code, it would be a heavily nested if clause -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Dale wrote: From what I recall, it takes hal and one other program to automount a CD, DVD, etc. I use hal and ivman myself. I think supermount or something like that was another way but if I recall correctly supermount has sort of fell off the map. supermount was a Mandrake app and it has indeed fallen off the map. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote: What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either gnome or kde -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- I'm using gnome desktop When you insert a CD, do you get an icon on the desktop that you can double click? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
2008/7/3 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 and this is the output: bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how i want to solve this problem. Regards, Norman Norman, I guess that when you mounted manually, you did it as root. Linux is very safe, and won't let you do anything if you do not have permission. To set which user can and can not do certain things, there is something called groups. Your user belongs to a group, and then it can do certain things, like, for example, accessing your cdrom, playing audio, using usb, etc. You can see a good explanation of this at chapter 11 of the Gentoo Handbook [1]. So, my guess is that when you created your user for daily use, you did not include it in the cdrom group. Just type: $ groups As user to see which groups is your user in. For example, this is my user and the groups it belongs to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ groups wheel floppy audio cdrom video games usb portage plugdev ric If you want to add your user to a new group, for example cdrom, do the following: 1 - Check which groups you already belong with: $ groups (NOTE: you can skip this step, but it is useful to know which groups are you already in.) 2- Log in as root. 3- Add your user to a new group with: # usermod -a -G [goups] [user] For this example, supposing your user is norman and you want to add it to the cdrom group then: # usermod -a -G cdrom norman And that should be all. Regards, Richard. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=11 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] help
certainly don't need any help with verbosity, do you? On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Erik Ohrnberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: help -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
Pawel K wrote: Hello I have 4 GB of ram and a Intel Core 2 Duo E4500. I compiled the kernel as follows: Processor family Core 2/newer Xeon Subarchitecture Type PC-compatible High Memory Support Off All my remaining packages are compiled as 32 bit binaries. The last switch causes my system to see less than 1 GB of memory: cat /proc/meminfo: MemTotal: 901816 kB AFAIK kernel does not need High Memory Support in case of 64 bit CPUs. What's wrong with my kernel config ? Maybe it does not run as a 64 bit CPU ? thanks for an answer. Check your kernel: Processor type and features High Memory Support then select 4Gb or maybe even 64Gb if you plan to add even more later. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Filesystem permissions
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:52:29 +0200 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'm a bit dissatisfied with the way umask and filesystem permissions work and I'd like to know if a) this is due to misunderstanding on my part and/or b) there is a clean workaround I'm unaware of. Let's say I have a system with various users working on some sensible data. Therefore I have to set up various security policies regarding file permissions and so forth. For example every $HOME-directory should be only readable to the user himself (e.g. for user phil_fl: chown phil_fl:phil:fl; umask 0077 or 0007). Then there might be a common folder for all users in a specific group as a simple way of sharing files. These shall be accessible by every user in the group but by none else, so for the user phil_fl and the group users: chown phil_fl:users; umask 0007. As we see, the umask itself isn't the problem (in this special case) but the group is it, however, there might be cases in which need to change both for special folders. How do I do this without needing any interaction from the users? umask does nothing for you here, it is simply a default starting point for the permissions of new files and directories and the user is completely free to change it to anything they feel like. Yes, this is by design. Yes, this is a very good thing :-) You want to set the setgid bit on the containing directory and chgrp that directory to the group involved. Argh, of course! I even read this stuff up this morning but I overlooked the paragraph! Thanks! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:49:45 -0700 (PDT), Pawel K wrote: AFAIK kernel does not need High Memory Support in case of 64 bit CPUs. What's wrong with my kernel config ? Maybe it does not run as a 64 bit CPU ? That's the most likely case, because the HighMem option doesn't even appear on a 64 bit system. -- Neil Bothwick For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] help
Erik Ohrnberger wrote: help Certainly, where/in what do you require it? -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.
On Thursday 03 July 2008 06:40:17 Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated. Pretty standrad blocker - been around for a while on ~arch. coreutils now provides what used to be in mktemp, so emerge -C mktemp ; emerge coreutils will sort it However that will leave you without the mktemp binary while coreutils gets built. Unlikely to be a problem, unless a reboot happens in the middle, and still probably quite recoverable. I've taken to making sure the collision-protect FEATURE is not set (which it isn't by default I believe), then removing the mktemp portage DB entry. # mv /var/db/pkg/sys-apps/mktemp-1.5/ ~ With mktemp apparently not installed, no blocker exists, and you've still got the binary. Portage will complain when it comes to install the new coreutils, but just ignore it's complaint. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
On Thursday 03 July 2008 16:49:45 Pawel K wrote: AFAIK kernel does not need High Memory Support in case of 64 bit CPUs. Correct. What's wrong with my kernel config ? Maybe it does not run as a 64 bit CPU ? The config for an x86_64 kernel doesn't have a high memory support option, you've built a 32bit kernel. a64bitserver linux # make menuconfig scripts/kconfig/mconf arch/x86_64/Kconfig make[1]: *** [menuconfig] Error 1 make: *** [menuconfig] Interrupt -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
Quoting Pawel K [EMAIL PROTECTED]: High Memory Support Off You made you box to only see ~950MB :) From menuconfig: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G: Select this if you have a 32-bit processor and between 1 and 4 gigabytes of physical RAM. Symbol: HIGHMEM4G [=y] Prompt: 4GB Defined at arch/x86/Kconfig:766 Depends on: choice !X86_NUMAQ Location: - Processor type and features - High Memory Support (choice [=y]) Regards, Norberto This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
On Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008, Pawel K wrote: Hello I have 4 GB of ram and a Intel Core 2 Duo E4500. I compiled the kernel as follows: Processor family Core 2/newer Xeon Subarchitecture Type PC-compatible High Memory Support Off All my remaining packages are compiled as 32 bit binaries. you installed a 32bit kernel? The last switch causes my system to see less than 1 GB of memory: cat /proc/meminfo: MemTotal: 901816 kB AFAIK kernel does not need High Memory Support in case of 64 bit CPUs. What's wrong with my kernel config ? Maybe it does not run as a 64 bit CPU ? it does. But it needs a 64bit kernel. And to have one you need a 64bit gcc and binutils and glibc and -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub on a new disk
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Florian Philipp wrote:
Hi!
I've recently moved /boot from /dev/hda to /dev/hdd. Then I've
installed grub with
for i in /dev/hd{a,b,d}; do grub-install --recheck $i; done
My knowledge of bash is less than rudimentary, therefore I am not sure what
this does - can you please explain (in plain English). Did you only
have /dev/hdd mounted at the time of installation? What else is connected to
the controller that hdd is connected to?
Now the system boots correctly but it takes ages (10sec) to come from
Grub loading Stage1.5
to
Grub loading, please wait...
and then another 10sec or more to open the menu.
That's rather a lot! I have certainly noticed that when /boot is installed in
the last partition of relatively large disks it takes longer for grub to come
up, but I am getting ~4sec on a 250G SATA, not 20sec like yours.
I think I had this problem a long time ago but I can't remember the
solution. Can anyone help?
I'd be interested to know if there is a solution. I had taken it as a given
that if grub is not at the start of a disk it takes longer to boot.
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools - [I'm done with this crap]
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, as far as I can tell you need medical attention. Please, from now on do not annoy me with unwanted e-mail containing advertisements of cdrtools or information about the attacks against you. You ddid by accident remove cdrtools instead of the crap. damn, dont feed the trolls ! cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, libcdio had an illegal license change: the authors took a lot of the code from cdrtools and claim that their code (e.g. derived from cdda2wav) is GPLv2-or-any-later. Well, not a single file from cdda2wav has ever been released under this license. Ah, then you as the original author (right ?) to stop them from that copyright infringenment. In the end they, IMHO, have two options: a) remove/replace your code b) release libcdio under your terms (CDDL ?) I am not the person who did put the code together as libcdio. This was the FSF. We are talking about a Copyright violation done by the FSF. This is what I said. If they broke the license, they have to fix this. ACK. That's one of those points why I thing, libraries should LGPL instead of GPL (I admit, I'm as careful as I should be about that w/ some of my own packages yet, but just due lack of time - on request my GPL'ed libs will be moved to LGPL) The FSF has no choice to make the code LGPL, converting from GPLv2-only is already more than they are allowed to do. Probably not the FSF, but all the authors involved. Can be a tricky issue ;-P Yet another reason why I prefer to keep packages small. BUT: please, please no flamewar about license philosophies. I am not interested in license wars. I get the impression that some people start flamewars because I am relaxed about licenses and do not try to make a religion out of a license. Well, just make one qualified statement at the right places and then better ignore the trolls. They just waste our time. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: a friend of mine is lawyer and music producer. I'm trying to convince him to admonish those companies which intentionally sell broken products ... would be nice if he'd really do this :) Joerg, do you feel confident enough in the area to provide a expertise which could stand in court ? I tries to do this via the Verbraucherzentrale - they have not been interested. Did you expect something useful from them as long as they're ruled by trolls like Seehofer ? ;-P You first need to check whether you may sue someone at all if you are not the Verbraucherzentrale. Well, depends on from which side you want to attack: a) competition law violation: you have to be a competitor or represent an reasonably large part of the market to be alled to file a suite. b) they've sold a defective product, and so you're going to hold them responsible for compensation c) you see this as an defraud and press criminal charges. What you may do is to forbid mixing these non-CDs with standard compliant media in the same rack in a shop and you may force the shops to add hints that the rack to the left does not include CDs. Yep, that would be the shop's resposibility, followed on the consumer protection law. Another side is directly attacking the producer. BUT: for now we have *far more critical* problems in our country. Our goverment is obviously guilty of high treason, not just by EU constitution/Lissabon contract. In Bavaria, they even go that far to directly ignore an recent contitutional court decision and legalize terroristic attacks by officials. Soon we're at the point where the basic right for violent resistent becomes active ... cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
* Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cdd2wav is directly writing to the audio device ? IMHO not good idea: you're bound to the devices cdda2wav supports, requires it to be ported to each single audio interface you want to use (not just platform specifics, but also things like audio servers, clients which want non-standard config, ... ):( I recomment you to read the cdda2wav man page to understand how it is working. It just says that it echoes the data to /dev/dsp (or another given device). So it's bound to exactly that device interface :( cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 4 GB and Intel Core 2 Duo
Neil Bothwick wrote: That's the most likely case, because the HighMem option doesn't even appear on a 64 bit system. He runs on 32 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Filesystem permissions
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:40:01 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list! I'm a bit dissatisfied with the way umask and filesystem permissions work and I'd like to know if a) this is due to misunderstanding on my part and/or b) there is a clean workaround I'm unaware of. Let's say I have a system with various users working on some sensible data. Therefore I have to set up various security policies regarding file permissions and so forth. For example every $HOME-directory should be only readable to the user himself (e.g. for user phil_fl: chown phil_fl:phil:fl; umask 0077 or 0007). Then there might be a common folder for all users in a specific group as a simple way of sharing files. These shall be accessible by every user in the group but by none else, so for the user phil_fl and the group users: chown phil_fl:users; umask 0007. As we see, the umask itself isn't the problem (in this special case) but the group is it, however, there might be cases in which need to change both for special folders. How do I do this without needing any interaction from the users? Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp AFAIK it was RedHat who introduced the so called User Private Groups scheme which is convenient exactly for situations like yours. Gentoo also uses that scheme by default. In short, instead of creating all user accounts as members of the group users, now for every user account useradd(8) creates a private group for the account in addition. Peter is created with main group Peter, Ann is created with main group Ann and so on. If you wanted Peter and Ann to share a common folder, you have to create a common group for them (e.g. project) and add each of them to that group. Then create a directory with owner root:project and the GID bit on. The GID bit makes the newly created files in the directory to be owned by the group project, instead by the group of the user creating the file. P.S. This schema may be convenient for some things but as usual it also has some disadvantages for others. I have asked here about one of the disadvantages (my personal point of view) when I discovered there was a new scheme: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/190110 -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] help
2008/7/3 Erik Ohrnberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: help That is a nice song from The Beatles [1] =) Regards, Richard. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ibX3TejlZE -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Hi folks, After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what? [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list cdr * installed packages [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -vp k3b These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.4 USE=alsa arts dvdr dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # * UDF file system support [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # uname -r 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I also tried switching to cdrtools with no change. Oh, also recompiled k3b after changing that, just to make sure. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
