Re: [gentoo-user] Partitioning strategy...?

2011-11-27 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:01:07 +0100 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: pvcreate /dev/sda5 vgcreate myvg /dev/sda5 lvcreate -n usr -L 10G myvg mke2fs -j /dev/myvg/usr Of course, just using /dev/sda5 for /usr is simpler. But what if this turns out to be too small? With so many

Re: [gentoo-user] Partitioning strategy...?

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
Róbert Čerňanský wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:01:07 +0100 Alex Schusterwo...@wonkology.org wrote: pvcreate /dev/sda5 vgcreate myvg /dev/sda5 lvcreate -n usr -L 10G myvg mke2fs -j /dev/myvg/usr Of course, just using /dev/sda5 for /usr is simpler. But what if this turns out to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Partitioning strategy...?

2011-11-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:02:37 +0100 Róbert Čerňanský hslis...@zoznam.sk wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:01:07 +0100 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: pvcreate /dev/sda5 vgcreate myvg /dev/sda5 lvcreate -n usr -L 10G myvg mke2fs -j /dev/myvg/usr Of course, just using

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnupg 2 and BZIP2 preference

2011-11-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 23:50:24 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 27.11.2011 00:03, schrieb Samuraiii: Hello fellow Gentoonians, I have problem with Gnupg 2 and compress preference on keys. When I recieve email which is for recipirnt with set compress preference to BZIP2 Thunderbird (with

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Mick
On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a little more tweaking I still want to do, but this is pretty awesome...

Re: [gentoo-user] Partitioning strategy...?

2011-11-27 Thread Alex Schuster
Róbert Čerňanský writes: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:01:07 +0100 Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: pvcreate /dev/sda5 vgcreate myvg /dev/sda5 lvcreate -n usr -L 10G myvg mke2fs -j /dev/myvg/usr Of course, just using /dev/sda5 for /usr is simpler. But what if this

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:27 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a little more tweaking I still want to do, but

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread covici
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a little more tweaking I still want to do, but this is pretty awesome...

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:39 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a little

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.14.1 upgrade

2011-11-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.11.2011 01:59, schrieb Paul Hartman: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: /lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib64/libcrypt.so.1) There were no @preserved-rebuild and revdep-rebuild found nothing. I rebuilt pam and things

[gentoo-user] Re: Any vbox made gentoo vm appliances available for dload

2011-11-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 17:01 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Creating a gentoo vm has always been a serious pita to me. I'm sure there will be those who claim its `simple'. Simple or not, I want to bypass it if possible. So wondering if

[gentoo-user] Re: Any vbox made gentoo vm appliances available for dload

2011-11-27 Thread Harry Putnam
James Wall wallservi...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Creating a gentoo vm has always been a serious pita to me.  I'm sure there will be those who claim its `simple'. Simple or not, I want to bypass it if possible. So wondering if

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a little more tweaking I still want to do, but

[gentoo-user] Re: Any vbox made gentoo vm appliances available for dload

2011-11-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: This is just a minimal Gentoo install, I have specialized appliances as well. where?

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 has landed

2011-11-27 Thread Lorenzo Bandieri
I googled how to disable the gnome-shell and get my gnome-panel back, along with the panel applets that I refuse to give up.  (The gnome- shell replaces the gnome-panel, so there is nowhere to run the old applets.) If you want to disable gnome-shell you can do it with the System Info

Re: [gentoo-user] Any vbox made gentoo vm appliances available for dload

2011-11-27 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 08:48 +0530, Vishnupradeep wrote: Albert W. Hopkins, is that 64bit or 32bit ? It si 64-bit. Though conceivably the build process could build 32-bit appliances, I haven't yet tried it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Any vbox made gentoo vm appliances available for dload

2011-11-27 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 08:53 +0530, Vishnupradeep wrote: Need login details. There are none. When you first log in (as root) you are forced to set a password.

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools

2011-11-27 Thread Dan Johansson
On Sunday 27 November 2011 02.02:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: In the last day or two wicd broke badly due to a net-tools upgrade. The recommended workarounds are to specify USE=old-output for net-tools or to downgrade

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Any vbox made gentoo vm appliances available for dload

2011-11-27 Thread Albert W. Hopkins
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 04:52 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Albert, I cloned your hg repo and tried to build from it, but it fails at downloading gentoo-sources. Something about not being able to resolve the kernel URLS. I suspect it is a problem in the ebuild itself, but I was not able to find

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread covici
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for

[gentoo-user] Can one get me that link?

2011-11-27 Thread LinuxIsOne
Hi, Can one please let me know about the difference between the two torrents written at: http://torrents.gentoo.org/ Since in both the torrents, 'amd 64' is written...? Thanks.

Re: [gentoo-user] Can one get me that link?

2011-11-27 Thread Vishnupradeep
What is multilib and how can I use it? Every AMD64 processor is able to run 32bit code as well as 64bit code. However, when you have a 32bit application, you are unable to mix it with 64bit libraries or vice versa. You can, however, natively run 32bit applications if all shared libraries it needs

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread covici
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing

Quiet builds Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com  wrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l

[gentoo-user] [OT]: How does behave the Olympus LS-5/LS-11 with Linux?

2011-11-27 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, does anyone own a Plympus LS-5 or Olympus LS-11 mobile digital audio recorder here? Is it possible to access this device 1) as a usb storage device for downloading the recordings 2) as usb audio device to be used a stereo usb mcirohone ? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best

Re: Quiet builds Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.comwrote: On Saturday 26 Nov 2011 15:22:15 Michael Mol wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds

Re: [gentoo-user] Can one get me that link?

2011-11-27 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Vishnupradeep intermedia.vis...@gmail.com wrote: http://torrents.gentoo.org/ From this link, which one I should use to download for 64 bit processor for my PC? Thanks.

Re: Quiet builds Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: Oh! I hadn't realized there was an update to portage that changed that. Missed it on my main box, I suppose. You have got to crawl out of the hole every once in a while.  It was on -dev then got moved over

[gentoo-user] What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
sys-apps/openrc-0.9.6 is just... gone? Not even masked, but completely gone from portage. What happened to it?

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-27 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Sun 27 Nov 2011 09:06:39 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: sys-apps/openrc-0.9.6 is just... gone? Not even masked, but completely gone from portage. What happened to it? 0.9.6? I updated my tree 24h before writing this reply. It's still not there. Only upto 0.9.4 - is masked. --

[gentoo-user] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.4: required HDD space

2011-11-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-11-20, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: 4-9GiB is a pretty wide range. If the maintainer implemented that, he'd be promptly inundated with all manner of support question none of which he can answer accurately. A slight mis-measurement on how much space a specific setup

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-27 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 27.11.2011 17:22, schrieb Nilesh Govindarajan: On Sun 27 Nov 2011 09:06:39 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: sys-apps/openrc-0.9.6 is just... gone? Not even masked, but completely gone from portage. What happened to it? 0.9.6? I updated my tree 24h before writing this reply. It's still

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On Sun 27 Nov 2011 09:06:39 PM IST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: sys-apps/openrc-0.9.6 is just... gone? Not even masked, but completely gone from portage. What happened to it? 0.9.6? I updated my tree 24h before writing this reply. It's still not there. Only upto

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 26.11.2011 16:22, schrieb Michael Mol: parallel builds Sweet, I didn't even know about emerges -j option to do parallel builds. Thx for sharing, I am sure I'll use this in the feature

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 12:29 AM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote: Am 26.11.2011 16:22, schrieb Michael Mol: parallel builds Sweet, I didn't even know about emerges -j option to do parallel builds. Thx for sharing, I am sure I'll use this in the feature emerge -j will be useful if

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 27, 2011 5:12 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: I figure that the optimal number of simultaneous CPU-consuming processes is going to be the number of CPU cores, plus enough to keep the CPU occupied while others are blocked on I/O. That's the same reasoning that drives the

Re: [gentoo-user] 200MB waste from /usr/share/locale ?

2011-11-27 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 11/26/2011 07:32 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: Can anyone explain what is going on ? Different packages include different levels of support for filtering their installed localization messages, typically one of install everything, install what's requested, or whats a locale? The reason you

Re: [gentoo-user] 200MB waste from /usr/share/locale ?

2011-11-27 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 11/26/2011 01:36 AM, Albert W. Hopkins wrote: (not that 200MB is really that big by today's standards). In my case it is. I am caching all of /usr/share/ into a cache working on file system level with space limited to 1GB taken from RAM. It's an experiment and it doesn't seem to perform

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 200MB waste from /usr/share/locale ?

2011-11-27 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 11/26/2011 06:23 PM, walt wrote: Someone recommended app-admin/localepurge, which removes them after installation. Reclaims hundreds of MB when I run it every month or so. Thanks for that hint. Best, Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to OpenRC 0.9.6?

2011-11-27 Thread Andrea Conti
On 27/11/11 16.36, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: sys-apps/openrc-0.9.6 is just... gone? Not even masked, but completely gone from portage. What happened to it? Last time I checked it was hardmasked. Now it's been confined into oblivion, I hope. It had a little problem in resolving the

[gentoo-user] Re: Any vbox made gentoo vm appliances available for dload

2011-11-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Albert W. Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 04:52 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Albert, I cloned your hg repo and tried to build from it, but it fails at downloading gentoo-sources. Something about not being able to resolve the kernel URLS. I suspect it is a

[gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Colleen Beamer
Hi all, I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize images and convert from one format to another (jpg to png, for example). ImageMagick is installed on my system (installed as requirement of something else), but I'm darned if I can find an executable to run the program. There used to be one in

[gentoo-user] USB Drive Mount

2011-11-27 Thread sean
I have two 500GB USB drives that my Gentoo system here will not read. Both these drives are fat formatted. The tail of DMESG, the entries actually go on for a long long time, has the following report for either of those two drives, [ 6027.085508] ehci_hcd :01:0a.2: detected XactErr len

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 27, 2011 5:12 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Here's my experience: I always experience emerge failures on my Gentoo VMs if I use MAKEOPTS=-j3. Not all packages, but many. Including, IIRC, glibc

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize images and convert from one format to another (jpg to png, for example).  ImageMagick is installed on my system (installed as requirement of something else), but

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Hi all, I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize images and convert from one format to another (jpg to png, for example). ImageMagick is installed on my system (installed as requirement of something else), but

[gentoo-user] Apache Php cgi and user_dirs

2011-11-27 Thread Samuraiii
Hello, Today Im form morning trying to get working apache 2.2.21-r1 and php 5.3.8 with userdirs mod. The problem is that apache is capable of opening ~/public_html but when it gets to open folder with index.php it fails with this error: (in browser) The requested URL

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: I'll steal your 1.6 factor, and give:    MAKEOPTS=-j 2*N -l 1.6*N)    PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average1.6*N a try. Ah. Which file does PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS go in? It doesn't appear to have an impact in

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Alex Schuster
Michael Mol writes: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: I'll steal your 1.6 factor, and give:    MAKEOPTS=-j 2*N -l 1.6*N)    PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average1.6*N a try. Ah. Which file does PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS go in? It doesn't appear to

Re: [gentoo-user] USB Drive Mount

2011-11-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:08:10 -0500 sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: I have two 500GB USB drives that my Gentoo system here will not read. Both these drives are fat formatted. The tail of DMESG, the entries actually go on for a long long time, has the following report for either of

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:16:33 -0500 Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] My day job is C++ on Windows[1], [1] Well, for most of this year, my task list has been more PHP-oriented, but I'm still on tap for our C++ work. You have my deepest, deepest, sympathies. Gotta pay the rent

Re: [gentoo-user] USB Drive Mount

2011-11-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:08:10 -0500 sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote: I have two 500GB USB drives that my Gentoo system here will not read. Both these drives are fat formatted. The tail of DMESG, the entries

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Hi all, I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize images and convert from one format to another (jpg to png, for example). ImageMagick is installed on my system

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools

2011-11-27 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Sun, Nov 27 2011, Dan Johansson wrote: On Sunday 27 November 2011 02.02:54 Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: In the last day or two wicd broke badly due to a net-tools upgrade. The recommended workarounds are to specify

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 17:04:24 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Hi all, I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize images and convert from one format to

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Does anyone have any experience with this? yes :) It's /usr/bin/convert This isn't

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 17:04:24 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Hi all, I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize images and convert from one format to

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a little more tweaking I still want to do, but this is pretty awesome...

[gentoo-user] Disappearing useflag hell

2011-11-27 Thread walt
Somewhere deep in the bowels of portage my 'introspection' useflag is vanishing -- but on just one of my three machines. I set the introspection useflag on all three machines (two ~amd64 and one ~x86) but when I run emerge --info, only two of the machines show the introspection useflag in the

[gentoo-user] Re: Can one get me that link?

2011-11-27 Thread walt
On 11/27/2011 07:49 AM, LinuxIsOne wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Vishnupradeep intermedia.vis...@gmail.com mailto:intermedia.vis...@gmail.com wrote: http://torrents.gentoo.org/ From this link, which one I should use to download for 64 bit processor for my PC? Both will run 64-bit

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Michael Molmike...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a little more tweaking I still want to do, but this is pretty awesome...

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools

2011-11-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:27:59 +0100, Dan Johansson wrote: I had the same issue after upgrading net-tools, wicd stoped working. While googling for a solution I found a workaround: Use the ioctl backend instead of the external backend. For me this workaround works. That explains why I was

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:56:17 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I don't know where the 'blame' lies, but I've found myself standardizing on MAKEOPTS=-j3, and PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average=1.6*num_of_vCPU (Yes, no explicit number of jobs. The newer portages are smart enough to keep

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 11/27/11 16:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 17:04:24 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Hi all, I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize

Re: [gentoo-user] Disappearing useflag hell

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
walt wrote: Somewhere deep in the bowels of portage my 'introspection' useflag is vanishing -- but on just one of my three machines. I set the introspection useflag on all three machines (two ~amd64 and one ~x86) but when I run emerge --info, only two of the machines show the introspection

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 11/27/11 16:22, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Does anyone have any experience with this? yes

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Colleen Beamer
On 11/27/11 16:28, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 17:04:24 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Hi all, I used to use ImageMagick to quickly resize

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
Colleen Beamer wrote: Oh, yes, it was! :-) There used to be a command in /usr/bin named imagemagick and if you launched it, it brought up an interface with menus/buttons that you could click on. Granted, I haven't used it in quite a while. However, I used to use it all the time to scale

Re: [gentoo-user] Disappearing useflag hell

2011-11-27 Thread Bill Longman
On Nov 27, 2011 3:44 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: walt wrote: Somewhere deep in the bowels of portage my 'introspection' useflag is vanishing -- but on just one of my three machines. I set the introspection useflag on all three machines (two ~amd64 and one ~x86) but when I run

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 3:55 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Michael Mol writes: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: I'll steal your 1.6 factor, and give: MAKEOPTS=-j 2*N -l 1.6*N) PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average1.6*N a try.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 6:24 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:56:17 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I don't know where the 'blame' lies, but I've found myself standardizing on MAKEOPTS=-j3, and PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average=1.6*num_of_vCPU (Yes, no

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 3:21 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 27, 2011 5:12 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Here's my experience: I always experience emerge failures on my Gentoo VMs if I

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Jack Byer
Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 6:24 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:56:17 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I don't know where the 'blame' lies, but I've found myself standardizing on MAKEOPTS=-j3, and PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs

Re: [gentoo-user] Disappearing useflag hell

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: I searched the -dev mailing list and only found references to the flag being enabled on a lot of packages. It appears to be a Gnome thing but don't quote me on it. Is it possible that it is enable by default whether it is set or not? There was talk of making it on in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
Jack Byer wrote: It would be nice if there were some way to mark particular packages that should never be compiled in parallel (like the trick for using a using a separate, non-tmpfs build directory for large packages). The load-explosion you describe is bad enough with regular packages but

Re: [gentoo-user] 200MB waste from /usr/share/locale ?

2011-11-27 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 11/27/2011 1:10 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 11/26/2011 07:32 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: Can anyone explain what is going on ? Different packages include different levels of support for filtering their installed localization messages, typically one of install everything, install what's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 8:38 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jack Byer wrote: It would be nice if there were some way to mark particular packages that should never be compiled in parallel (like the trick for using a using a separate, non-tmpfs build directory for large packages). The

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd and net-tools

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 6:18 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:27:59 +0100, Dan Johansson wrote: I had the same issue after upgrading net-tools, wicd stoped working. While googling for a solution I found a workaround: Use the ioctl backend instead of the external

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:22 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to share an experience I had today with optimizing parallel builds after discovering -l for Make... I've got a little more tweaking I

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:56:17 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I don't know where the 'blame' lies, but I've found myself standardizing on MAKEOPTS=-j3, and PORTAGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--jobs --load-average=1.6*num_of_vCPU (Yes, no

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 6:24 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:56:17 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I don't know where the 'blame' lies, but I've found myself standardizing on MAKEOPTS=-j3, and

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 11:38 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 6:24 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:56:17 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: I don't know where the

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 11:32 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: - 8 snip MAKEOPTS would be -j16, -l10. (Which actually goes up to about 12 or 13 based on that N*1.6 behavior) - 8 snip Just in case anyone wonders where the multiplier 1.6 comes from: There had been a discussion

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 11:38 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 6:24 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2011

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 3:21 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: [snip] Sweet; I didn't know about Portage's --load-average; I'll definitely switch to

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Nov 28, 2011 12:35 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 3:21 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: [snip] Sweet; I

[gentoo-user] dev-lang/cabal-install compilation fails

2011-11-27 Thread wolf python london
Hey list, I want to use cabal-install in my Gentoo box , but fails :-. it seems that cabal-install depends on mtl, so in the phase of compiling mtl , it reports error . The complete build log is here(https://gist.github.com/1399303). # emerge -pqv =dev-haskell/mtl-1.1.0.2 [ebuild N]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can one get me that link?

2011-11-27 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:44 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Both will run 64-bit software, but only the 'multilib' will also run 32-bit software.  You may not care about running older 32-bit software on your 64-bit machine. Oh I see. thanks Reagrds, LinuxIsOne

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 28 Nov 2011 00:55:36 Colleen Beamer wrote: On 11/27/11 16:28, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 17:04:24 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge -j, make -j and make -l

2011-11-27 Thread Dale
Pandu Poluan wrote: On Nov 28, 2011 8:38 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jack Byer wrote: It would be nice if there were some way to mark particular packages that should never be compiled in parallel (like the trick for using a using a separate,

Re: [gentoo-user] ImageMagick

2011-11-27 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:28:35 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 17:04:24 schrieb Colleen Beamer: On 11/27/11 15:18, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Hi Colleen, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 16:08:41 schrieb Colleen Beamer: Hi all,

[gentoo-user] Re: dev-lang/cabal-install compilation fails

2011-11-27 Thread wolf python london
On 28 November 2011 14:06, wolf python london lyh19901...@gmail.com wrote: Hey list, I want to use cabal-install in my Gentoo box , but fails :-. it seems that cabal-install depends on mtl, so in the phase of compiling mtl , it reports error . The complete build log is