Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:00:46 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 One more thing; which profile (/etc/make.profile or
 /etc/portage/make.profile) do you have?

To make things easier, please post the output from emerge --info.

This shows all USE flags in use, not just those you have explicitly set,
along with profile and other information.


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And then Adam said, What's a headache?


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 To make things easier, please post the output from emerge --info.

Neil,

Great idea.  Output attached.

PS:
emerge -pv thunar[udev] pulls in gnome-base/gfvs-1.12.3
emerge -pv gvfs pulls in gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1

Thank you,

Chris
Portage 2.1.11.9 (default/linux/amd64/10.0, gcc-4.5.4, glibc-2.15-r2, 
3.4.9-gentoo x86_64)
=
System uname: 
Linux-3.4.9-gentoo-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-_i7-3520M_CPU_@_2.90GHz-with-gentoo-2.1
Timestamp of tree: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:00:01 +
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sys-apps/sandbox: 2.5
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sys-devel/automake:   1.9.6-r3, 1.11.6
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sys-devel/gcc:4.5.4
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.7.3
sys-devel/libtool:2.4-r1
sys-devel/make:   3.82-r3
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 3.4-r2 (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:   2.15-r2
Repositories: gentoo x-portage
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ACCEPT_LICENSE=* -@EULA
CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
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CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf 
/etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo
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protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs 
unmerge-orphans userfetch
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MAKEOPTS=-j4
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PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress 
--force --whole-file --delete --stats --human-readable --timeout=180 
--exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages
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pppd python readline session sse sse2 ssl tcpd unicode zlib 
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asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa 
lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm 
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authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile 
authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock 
deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include 
info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif 
speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias CALLIGRA_FEATURES=kexi 
words flow plan sheets stage tables krita karbon braindump CAMERAS=ptp2 
COLLECTD_PLUGINS=df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog 
ELIBC=glibc GPSD_PROTOCOLS=ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin 
garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore 
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tee tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account
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PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, 
PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, USE_PYTHON



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120910 Chris Stankevitz wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem seems to be the use of static libraries

The only place I use a static library/thing is Busybox.

 I temporarily worked around by adding xfce-base/thunar -udev
 to package.use.  Somehow building thunar with udev introduced the mess.

From my home-made list of installed pkgs :

  W 120506 xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0 [USE]
...
  USE FLAGS required
...
  xfce-base/thunar USE=-udev [avoids Gnome disk utils]

 from  /etc/portage/package.use

  # for thunar
  xfce-base/thunar -udev
  
So why do you say temporary (smile) ?

Xfce is a good substitute for KDE/Gnome ;
its only weakness is sometimes following Gnome's irritating oddities.

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Thank you to all who are following this.

I used emerge -vptd to get some debugging info.  This is the reason
emerge wants to bring in the ~amd64 to my stable system:

Parent:(xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
Depstring: || ( =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[udisks,udev]
=gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[gdu,udev] )
Priority:  runtime
installed: gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1::gentoo
Candidates: ['=gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[udisks,udev]']
   ebuild: gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3::gentoo

I do not know how to translate to english, but these questions arise:

1. What is this saying in english?
2. Should I have the udisks USE flag set?
3. Should I have the udev USE flag set?
4. Should I have the gdu USE flag set?
5. Will (3)-(5) change the way portage brings in the gvfs dependency?

Questions (3)-(5) are not educated questions.  I really do not know
what any of that stuff does.  I just see it listed in the output above
and naturally I wondered should I set them?   The Ubuntu forums
approach would be for me to try all combinations of those three use
flags until it just works.  In this case I would prefer to understand
what is going on :)

Thank you again,

Chris



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120911 Chris Stankevitz wrote:
 I used emerge -vptd to get some debugging info.  This is the reason
 emerge wants to bring in the ~amd64 to my stable system:
 
 Parent:(xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
 Depstring: || ( =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[udisks,udev]
 =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[gdu,udev] )
 Priority:  runtime
 installed: gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1::gentoo
 Candidates: ['=gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[udisks,udev]']
ebuild: gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3::gentoo
 
 I really do not know what any of that stuff does.
 The Ubuntu forums approach would be for me to try all combinations
 until it just works.  I would prefer to understand what is going on.

Sometimes the former is the best way to achieve the latter (smile).

I have Thunar installed with USE='-udev', but I also have Gvfs installed
 'emerge -cpv gvfs' tells me it's needed for Thunar.
My conclusion is that this dependency is absolute
 that's confirmed by looking at the ebuild itself,
which says  GVFS_DEPEND==gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1 .

HTH a bit

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
 Questions (3)-(5)

This should have said (2)-(4).

===

The problem is solved in the Ubuntu sense.  I suspect that I
encountered some kind of portage bug or oddity on the way.

I solved the problem by:
1. removed global USE flag -gnome
2. added global USE flag fuse
3. added global USE flag udisks
4. added global USE flag gdu
5. emerge -DNa world


Some/all of the above steps allowed me to successfully emerge -vat
thunar-volman

Now here is the weird part:

thunar-volman demands thunar with the udev USE flag.  Before steps
(1)-(5) above, during install of thunar-volman portage would take it
upon itself to add the udev USE flag to thunar.  And consequently pull
in an ~amd64 version of gvfs.

After steps (1)-(5) above, during install of thunar-volman, portage
would halt the process with the common complaint: please add udev USE
flag to thunar.  I added the USE flag and then portage happily
installed thunar-volman.

Weird!

===

I'm a little upset I solved this using the Ubuntu approach of try a
bunch of random crap until it works (in this case the random crap was
me turning on global USE flags without really knowing why).  I guessed
to turn on those USE flags due to the output of emerge -d which I
posted earlier.

Thanks for your help everyone,

Chris



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 17:53:23 schrieb Chris Stankevitz:
 I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not
 come with thunar.   When I tried to install it, portage became upset.
 
 Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages
 and deal with slot conflicts and static-libs to install a file
 manager?  FYI I am running a stable (non-~AMD64) system.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Chris
 
 ===
 
 # emerge -pv xfce-base/thunar
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 
 !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
 !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
 
 dev-libs/libgcrypt:0
 
   (dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.5.0-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled
 in by dev-libs/libgcrypt[static-libs] required by
 (sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.4.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
 
   (dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.5.0-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
 (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)
 
 sys-libs/zlib:0
 
   (sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.1-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
 (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)
 
   (sys-libs/zlib-1.2.7::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
 
 =sys-libs/zlib-1.2.6 required by (sys-apps/kmod-10::gentoo,
 
 ebuild scheduled for merge)
 
 dev-libs/popt:0
 
   (dev-libs/popt-1.16-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
 
 =dev-libs/popt-1.16-r1[static-libs] required by
 
 (sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.4.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
 
   (dev-libs/popt-1.16-r1::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
 (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)
 
 dev-libs/glib:2
 
   (dev-libs/glib-2.32.4::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
 
 =dev-libs/glib-2.32.4:2 required by
 
 (dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
 (and 3 more with the same problem)
 
   (dev-libs/glib-2.30.3::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
 (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)
 
 
 It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
 prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
 possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
 impossible to satisfy simultaneously.  If such a conflict exists in
 the dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can
 not be installed simultaneously. You may want to try a larger value of
 the --backtrack option, such as --backtrack=30, in order to see if
 that will solve this conflict automatically.
 
 For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man
 page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
 
 
 The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed:
 #required by sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1, required by
 gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by
 xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required by
 xfce-base/thunar (argument)
 =sys-auth/polkit-0.107 ~amd64
 #required by dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4, required by
 sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1, required by gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks],
 required by xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required
 by xfce-base/thunar (argument)
 =dev-libs/glib-2.32.4 ~amd64
 #required by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16
 =sys-fs/udev-189 ~amd64
 #required by sys-fs/udev-189[openrc], required by
 dev-libs/libatasmart-0.19, required by sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1,
 required by gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by
 xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required by
 xfce-base/thunar (argument)
 =sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16 ~amd64
 #required by sys-fs/udev-189, required by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16
 =sys-apps/kmod-10 ~amd64
 #required by sys-apps/kmod-10[zlib], required by sys-fs/udev-189,
 required by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16
 =sys-libs/zlib-1.2.7 ~amd64
 #required by xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required
 by xfce-base/thunar (argument)
 =gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3 ~amd64
 #required by gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by
 xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required by
 xfce-base/thunar (argument)
 =sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1 ~amd64
 #required by sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1, required by
 gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by
 xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required by
 xfce-base/thunar (argument)
 =dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4 ~amd64
 #required by sys-fs/udev-189[hwdb], required by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16
 =sys-apps/hwids-20120831 ~amd64
 #required by sys-auth/polkit-0.107, required by
 sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1, required by gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks],
 required by xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required
 by xfce-base/thunar (argument)
 =dev-lang/spidermonkey-1.8.5-r1 ~amd64
 
 The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
 #required by xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required
 by xfce-base/thunar (argument)
 
 =gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3 

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
 I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not
 come with thunar.   When I tried to install it, portage became upset.

 Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages
 and deal with slot conflicts and static-libs to install a file
 manager?  FYI I am running a stable (non-~AMD64) system.

 Thank you,

 Chris

SNIP

Hi Chris,
   I think you got your problem solved if my quick scan of this thread
is correct. However one comment I didn't see come up was to point out
that it can make a huge difference in terms of use flag choices
depending on which system profile you choose to orient your system
around. In the case of my wife's XFCE machine I found that using the
plain profile worked pretty well, but when I added KDE to it (I use
KDE when sitting on that machine) I needed to add a lot of use flags
and keyword a number of files. In the case of my own systems I choose
the KDE profile which ends up with most everything use flag oriented
pretty optimized for KDE. (No surprise.)

   Anyway, as you're new to Gentoo and looking for more in-depth
answers, I wanted to just make sure you at least considered the system
profile chosen and it's effect on what you have to do to emerge
packages.

Cheers,
Mark

k2 ~ # eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
  [1]   default/linux/amd64/10.0 *
  [2]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/selinux
  [3]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop
  [4]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome
  [5]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde
  [6]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/developer
  [7]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/no-multilib
  [8]   default/linux/amd64/10.0/server
  [9]   hardened/linux/amd64
  [10]  hardened/linux/amd64/selinux
  [11]  hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib
  [12]  hardened/linux/amd64/no-multilib/selinux
k2 ~ #



[gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not
come with thunar.   When I tried to install it, portage became upset.

Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages
and deal with slot conflicts and static-libs to install a file
manager?  FYI I am running a stable (non-~AMD64) system.

Thank you,

Chris

===

# emerge -pv xfce-base/thunar

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:

dev-libs/libgcrypt:0

  (dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.5.0-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
dev-libs/libgcrypt[static-libs] required by
(sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.4.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

  (dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.5.0-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
(no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

sys-libs/zlib:0

  (sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5.1-r2::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
(no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

  (sys-libs/zlib-1.2.7::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
=sys-libs/zlib-1.2.6 required by (sys-apps/kmod-10::gentoo,
ebuild scheduled for merge)

dev-libs/popt:0

  (dev-libs/popt-1.16-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
=dev-libs/popt-1.16-r1[static-libs] required by
(sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.4.1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)

  (dev-libs/popt-1.16-r1::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
(no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)

dev-libs/glib:2

  (dev-libs/glib-2.32.4::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
=dev-libs/glib-2.32.4:2 required by
(dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
(and 3 more with the same problem)

  (dev-libs/glib-2.30.3::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
(no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot)


It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously.  If such a conflict exists in
the dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can
not be installed simultaneously. You may want to try a larger value of
the --backtrack option, such as --backtrack=30, in order to see if
that will solve this conflict automatically.

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man
page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed:
#required by sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1, required by
gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by
xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required by
xfce-base/thunar (argument)
=sys-auth/polkit-0.107 ~amd64
#required by dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4, required by
sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1, required by gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks],
required by xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required
by xfce-base/thunar (argument)
=dev-libs/glib-2.32.4 ~amd64
#required by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16
=sys-fs/udev-189 ~amd64
#required by sys-fs/udev-189[openrc], required by
dev-libs/libatasmart-0.19, required by sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1,
required by gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by
xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required by
xfce-base/thunar (argument)
=sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16 ~amd64
#required by sys-fs/udev-189, required by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16
=sys-apps/kmod-10 ~amd64
#required by sys-apps/kmod-10[zlib], required by sys-fs/udev-189,
required by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16
=sys-libs/zlib-1.2.7 ~amd64
#required by xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required
by xfce-base/thunar (argument)
=gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3 ~amd64
#required by gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by
xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required by
xfce-base/thunar (argument)
=sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1 ~amd64
#required by sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1, required by
gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by
xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required by
xfce-base/thunar (argument)
=dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4 ~amd64
#required by sys-fs/udev-189[hwdb], required by sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16
=sys-apps/hwids-20120831 ~amd64
#required by sys-auth/polkit-0.107, required by
sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1, required by gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks],
required by xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required
by xfce-base/thunar (argument)
=dev-lang/spidermonkey-1.8.5-r1 ~amd64

The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
#required by xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[dbus,xfce_plugins_trash], required
by xfce-base/thunar (argument)
=gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3 udisks
#required by sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.4.1[static], required by
sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1[crypt], required by
gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3[udisks], required by

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
 I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not
 come with thunar.   When I tried to install it, portage became upset.

 Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages
 and deal with slot conflicts and static-libs to install a file
 manager?  FYI I am running a stable (non-~AMD64) system.

 Thank you,

 Chris

My wife uses XFCE with none of that confusion going on. I don't have
anything much on the machine in terms of controlling XFCE. It just
works. The machine was updated a few days ago so unless something got
messed up in portage it sounds like a config issue on your end to me.

HTH,
Mark

k2 ~ # eix -Ic xfce
[U] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce (3.0.0-r200{tbz2}@05/17/12 -
3.0.0-r200{tbz2} 3.0.0-r300(3)): A port of Xfce engine to GTK+-3.x
[I] xfce-base/libxfce4ui (4.10.0{tbz2}@05/22/12): Unified widgets and
session management libraries for the Xfce desktop environment
[I] xfce-base/libxfce4util (4.10.0{tbz2}@05/22/12): A basic utility
library for the Xfce desktop environment
[I] xfce-base/libxfcegui4 (4.10.0{tbz2}@05/22/12): A compability
library for unported Xfce 4.6 plugins
[I] xfce-base/xfce4-appfinder (4.10.0{tbz2}@05/22/12): A tool to find
and launch installed applications for the Xfce desktop environment
[I] xfce-base/xfce4-meta (4.10{tbz2}@05/22/12): The Xfce Desktop
Environment (meta package)
[I] xfce-base/xfce4-panel (4.10.0{tbz2}@05/22/12): Panel for the Xfce
desktop environment
[I] xfce-base/xfce4-session (4.10.0{tbz2}@05/22/12): A session manager
for the Xfce desktop environment
[I] xfce-base/xfce4-settings (4.10.0{tbz2}@05/22/12): Configuration
system for the Xfce desktop environment
[I] xfce-extra/xfce4-datetime-plugin (0.6.1{tbz2}@05/22/12): A panel
plug-in with date, time and embedded calender
[I] xfce-extra/xfce4-mixer (4.8.0{tbz2}@05/22/12): A volume control
application (and panel plug-in) for the Xfce desktop environment
[I] xfce-extra/xfce4-notes-plugin (1.7.7{tbz2}@05/22/12): Xfce4 panel
sticky notes plugin
[I] xfce-extra/xfce4-timer-plugin (0.6.4{tbz2}@05/22/12): A simple
timer plug-in for the Xfce desktop environment
Found 13 matches.
k2 ~ # eix -Ic thunar
[I] xfce-base/thunar (1.4.0{tbz2}@06/12/12): File manager for the Xfce
desktop environment
k2 ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.keywords | grep xfce
k2 ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use | grep xfce
k2 ~ #



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
 I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not
 come with thunar.   When I tried to install it, portage became upset.

 Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages
 and deal with slot conflicts and static-libs to install a file
 manager?  FYI I am running a stable (non-~AMD64) system.

 Thank you,

The problem seems to be the use of static libraries (which I firmly
believe are completely useless in a modern Linux system). I don't have
enabled *any* static nor static-libs flag in my whole system (a full
fledged GNOME 3 desktop), and neither in my server.

Try reemerging world with USE=-static -static-libs, and then try to
emerge thunar also with USE=-static -static-libs.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 Try reemerging world with USE=-static -static-libs, and then try to
 emerge thunar also with USE=-static -static-libs.

Canek,

Thank you for your help.  I
1. added -static -static-libs to /etc/make.conf USE.
2. emerge --newuse --deep world (rebuilt only glib)
3. emerge -pv thunar (also with the use flag enabled although thunar
seems to not use that USE flag?).

I got farther this time, but it seems that emerge is still asking a lot of me.

Eventhough I think it's odd (and a sign that I screwed up somewhere),
I can satisfy the USE flag requests and the ~amd64 requests.

I do not know how to solve the slot conflicts.

Thanks again for your help,

Chris

PS: This is a new install without anything fancy AFAIK.  I synced
portage about 10 hours ago.

===

drg ~ # emerge -pv thunar

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N~] sys-apps/hwids-20120831  360 kB
[ebuild U ~] sys-libs/zlib-1.2.7 [1.2.5.1-r2] USE=-minizip
-static-libs 548 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/icu-49.1.2  USE=-debug -doc -examples
-static-libs 18,566 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-apps/gptfdisk-0.8.4  179 kB
[ebuild  N ] app-arch/zip-3.0  USE=bzip2 crypt unicode 1,258 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/libtasn1-2.12  USE=-doc -static-libs 1,906 kB
[ebuild  NS] sys-devel/autoconf-2.13 [2.68] 434 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/nspr-4.9.2  USE=-debug 1,145 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/nettle-2.4  USE=gmp 1,051 kB
[ebuild  N ] gnome-base/orbit-2.14.19-r1  USE=-debug -doc -test 747 kB
[ebuild  N~] dev-lang/spidermonkey-1.8.5-r1  USE=-debug
-static-libs -test 6,021 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/elfutils-0.149  USE=bzip2 nls zlib -lzma 1,780 kB
[ebuild  N ] net-libs/gnutls-2.12.18  USE=cxx nettle nls zlib
-bindist -doc -examples -guile -lzo -pkcs11 -static-libs -test 7,040
kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-block/parted-3.1  USE=debug nls readline
-device-mapper (-selinux) -static-libs -test 1,489 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-block/eject-2.1.5-r2  USE=nls 121 kB
[ebuild U ~] dev-libs/glib-2.32.4 [2.30.3] USE=-debug -doc (-fam)
(-selinux) -static-libs -systemtap -test -utils -xattr 6,034 kB
[ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gsettings-desktop-schemas-3.2.0-r1  152 kB
[ebuild  N ] virtual/eject-0  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] net-libs/libproxy-0.4.7  USE=python -gnome -kde
-mono -networkmanager -perl -test 89 kB
[ebuild  N ] net-libs/glib-networking-2.30.2  USE=gnome libproxy
ssl 291 kB
[ebuild  N ] net-libs/libsoup-2.36.1-r1  USE=introspection ssl
-debug -doc -samba -test 595 kB
[ebuild  N~] dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_2 -python2_5 -python2_6 -python3_1
0 kB
[ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gconf-2.32.4  USE=introspection -debug
-doc -ldap -policykit 1,296 kB
[ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.32.1-r1  USE=pam -debug
-doc -test 1,582 kB
[ebuild  N ] gnome-base/libgnome-keyring-2.32.0  USE=-debug -doc
-test 403 kB
[ebuild  N ] net-libs/libsoup-gnome-2.36.1  USE=introspection
-debug -doc 0 kB
[ebuild  N~] sys-apps/kmod-10  USE=tools zlib -debug -doc -lzma
-static-libs 1,100 kB
[uninstall ] sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.16-r1  USE=-static
[blocks b  ] sys-apps/kmod (sys-apps/kmod is blocking
sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.16-r1)
[blocks b  ] sys-apps/module-init-tools
(sys-apps/module-init-tools is blocking sys-apps/kmod-10)
[ebuild U ~] sys-auth/polkit-0.107 [0.104-r1] USE=introspection
nls pam -examples -gtk -kde (-selinux) -systemd (-debug%) (-doc%)
1,351 kB
[ebuild U ~] sys-fs/udev-189 [171-r6] USE=acl%* gudev hwdb*
openrc%* -doc% -introspection -keymap (-selinux) -static-libs%
(-action_modeswitch%) (-build%) (-debug%) (-edd%) (-extras%)
(-floppy%) (-rule_generator%*) (-test%) 1,341 kB
[blocks b  ] sys-fs/udev-186 (sys-fs/udev-186 is blocking
sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16)
[ebuild  N~] sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-16  5 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-libs/libatasmart-0.19  USE=-static-libs 246 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.88  USE=lvm1 readline (-clvm)
(-cman) (-selinux) -static -static-libs 1,006 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.4.1  USE=nls (-selinux) -static 755 kB
[ebuild  N~] sys-fs/udisks-1.99.0-r1  USE=crypt gptfdisk
introspection -debug -systemd 713 kB
[ebuild  N~] gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3  USE=http udev udisks -afp
-archive -avahi -bluetooth -bluray -cdda -doc -fuse -gdu
-gnome-keyring -gphoto2 -ios -samba 1,332 kB
[ebuild  N ] xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0  USE=dbus pcre udev -debug
-exif -libnotify -startup-notification -test XFCE_PLUGINS=trash
1,871 kB
[blocks B  ] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r2
(sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.9-r2 is blocking sys-apps/hwids-20120831)
[blocks B  ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.10.58
(sys-apps/portage-2.1.10.58 is blocking
dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4)
[blocks B  ] sys-apps/openrc-0.9.9 (sys-apps/openrc-0.9.9 is
blocking sys-fs/udev-189)


Total: 36 packages (4 upgrades, 31 new, 1 in new slot, 1 

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]

 I got farther this time, but it seems that emerge is still asking a lot of me.

 Eventhough I think it's odd (and a sign that I screwed up somewhere),
 I can satisfy the USE flag requests and the ~amd64 requests.

 I do not know how to solve the slot conflicts.

This is weird. xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0 (the only available version) is
stable; every one of its dependencies should be stable. You should not
require to keyword any package.

Can I see your  USE variable in /etc/make.conf (or
/etc/portage/make.conf, if you use the new recommended location)?
Also, if you have it, your /etc/portage/package.use file or files?

I have an old server running without nothing X-related, and portage
allows me to merge thunar by just setting X and gudev to my USE
flags.

Also, your xfce-meta installation didn't pull thunar because you
didn't set the (surprise) thunar USE flag. Before merging something,
do a:

emerge -pv xfce-meta

You will see the possible USE flags, and which ones are set.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 The problem seems to be the use of static libraries

I temporarily worked around by adding xfce-base/thunar -udev to
package.use.  Somehow building thunar with udev introduced the mess.

Chris



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can I see your  USE

Canek,

Thank you for your help.  My USE flags are pretty benign.  I'm
beginning to suspect something is grossly wrong with my setup.  Below
I will post my USE line from make.conf and my entire package.use.

# make.conf
#
# 2012-09-10: Added udev, X, python to appease xorg
# 2012-09-10: Added -gnome dbus to appease the xfce configuration guide
USE=mmx sse sse2 udev X python -gnome dbus

# package.use
# 2012-09-10: appease xfce4-meta
sys-fs/udev gudev
sys-auth/consolekit policykit
sys-auth/pambase consolekit

# 2012-09-10: appease thunar
xfce-base/thunar -udev

 Also, your xfce-meta installation didn't pull thunar because you
 didn't set the (surprise) thunar USE flag.

Ahh.  It's coming back to me now.  I believe I had it set originally
but dropped it when I discovered the mess it created.

Thank you,

Chris



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Chris Stankevitz
chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
 # 2012-09-10: appease thunar
 xfce-base/thunar -udev

This makes no sense; the udev flag in thunar only asks for
=sys-fs/udev-171, which is stable. Are you sure you don't have
anything in /etc/portage/package.keywords?

By the way, it will be difficult for you to find a stronger supporter
of udev/systemd than myself; and I don't have the global udev flag
set.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Chris Stankevitz
 chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote:
 [snip]
 # 2012-09-10: appease thunar
 xfce-base/thunar -udev

 This makes no sense; the udev flag in thunar only asks for
=sys-fs/udev-171, which is stable. Are you sure you don't have
 anything in /etc/portage/package.keywords?

 By the way, it will be difficult for you to find a stronger supporter
 of udev/systemd than myself; and I don't have the global udev flag
 set.

One more thing; which profile (/etc/make.profile or
/etc/portage/make.profile) do you have?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-10 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
=sys-fs/udev-171, which is stable. Are you sure you don't have
 anything in /etc/portage/package.keywords?

I know it sounds absurd, but... I have no package.keywords file.  My
package.use is small and benign.  My make.conf is also benign.  I am
using the default profile ([1] default/linux/amd64/10.10 *)

Emerge output is pretty clear:
- thunar (argument) is pulling in
- xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0[udev], which is pulling in
- gnome-base/gvfs-1.12.3 ~amd64
- which pulls in all kinds of stuff

This sure makes it look like I have gvfs in my package.keywords, but I
do not.  I promise!

This command:
find /usr/portage -name \*.ebuild | xargs grep gvfs-1.12

Returns these files:
/usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome-core-libs/gnome-core-libs-3.4.1.ebuild
/usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome/gnome-3.4.1.ebuild
/usr/portage/gnome-base/gnome-light/gnome-light-3.4.1.ebuild
/usr/portage/gnome-base/gvfs/gvfs-1.12.*.ebuild

Weird.  I have no idea where the gvfs-1.12 dependency is coming in.
And emerge -t won't even tell me.  Portage is so upset about this it
will not even show me a tree (see original post in this thread).

 By the way, it will be difficult for you to find a stronger supporter
 of udev/systemd than myself; and I don't have the global udev flag
 set.

I don't really know what udev is (I know it holds actions to take when
certain USB devices are plugged... that's all I know).  I just added
global udev to obey the gentoo xfce install guide.  If I remove it
from make.conf, I can install thunar... but if I try to install
thunar-volman the problem returns (thunar-volman requires thunar with
udev)

Thank you,

Chris