OT - RAM disks - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-13 5:49 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about putting some stuff on tmpfs. O_O I have always wanted to copy the tree to tmpfs and run time emerge -uvaDN world. Just to see how fast it will go. lol I remember once I worked for an Apple reseller that had this accounting

Re: OT - RAM disks - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-14 Thread Dale
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-10-13 5:49 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about putting some stuff on tmpfs. O_O I have always wanted to copy the tree to tmpfs and run time emerge -uvaDN world. Just to see how fast it will go. lol I remember once I worked for an Apple reseller that

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-14 Thread Mick
On Sunday 13 Oct 2013 22:49:41 Dale wrote: I don't overclock so I'm not worried about that. I did it once with a old Abit mobo with a AMD 2500+ CPU but it just didn't make much difference. O/C = higher costs. You need higher frequency memory, bigger CPU/case coolers and potentially a bigger

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-14 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Sunday 13 Oct 2013 22:49:41 Dale wrote: I don't overclock so I'm not worried about that. I did it once with a old Abit mobo with a AMD 2500+ CPU but it just didn't make much difference. O/C = higher costs. You need higher frequency memory, bigger CPU/case coolers and

Re: OT - RAM disks - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-14 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 14, 2013 6:04 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-10-13 5:49 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about putting some stuff on tmpfs. O_O I have always wanted to copy the tree to tmpfs and run time emerge -uvaDN world. Just to see how fast it will go. lol

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-13 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Basically, it looks like you have a once-off event. Until it happens again, very little you can do wrt troubleshooting I agree. It ran for days with no problems that I saw. Sure is weird tho. I just wonder if something outside the puter happened and

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-13 Thread Mick
On Sunday 13 Oct 2013 13:26:31 Dale wrote: Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Basically, it looks like you have a once-off event. Until it happens again, very little you can do wrt troubleshooting I agree. It ran for days with no problems that I saw. Sure is weird tho. I just

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-13 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Sunday 13 Oct 2013 13:26:31 Dale wrote: Memory question. The mobo I have uses this: Support for DDR3 1666(OC)/1333/1066 MHz memory modules I have the 1666 on here. It was what was on sale. :-D The new mobo calls for this: DDR3 2000(OC)/1866/1600/1333/1066 Are the two

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:28:01 -0500, Dale wrote: The original config had OHCI enabled. My mobo doesn't need UHCI. I didn't have EHCI enabled but likely don't need it anyway. I don't think anything I have is USB3 based on what folks are posting here. EHCI is USB2, if you disable that and

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:11:26 -0500, Dale wrote: I looked at those. They have no color at all. It's just metal on mine. I've had them for a while so I suspect they are USB2. Just a thought tho. They could be USB1 for all I know. They are USB2. If they're not blue, they're not USB3 and

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-07 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 19:28:01 -0500, Dale wrote: The original config had OHCI enabled. My mobo doesn't need UHCI. I didn't have EHCI enabled but likely don't need it anyway. I don't think anything I have is USB3 based on what folks are posting here. EHCI is USB2, if

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) Well, I rebuilt the kernel and removed the OHCI and UHCI. When I rebooted, it couldn't see my UPS and nut couldn't start its services. So, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 05/10/2013 12:13, Dale wrote: Dale changed his motherboard recently, presumably he knows what his chipset offers This is the rig I built a few years ago. It has a Gigabyte mobo but it hasn't been changed yet. I was planning on it but family issues moved that from a

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/10/2013 20:36, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) Well, I rebuilt the kernel and removed the OHCI and UHCI. When I rebooted, it couldn't see my UPS and nut

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/10/2013 20:36, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) Well, I rebuilt the kernel and removed the OHCI and UHCI. When I rebooted, it couldn't see

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
More info to cloud up things even more. I tried different versions of kernel and each one of them produced the same error. I went all the way back to 3.5.3 and up to 3.11.1. I might add, I ran that 3.5.3 kernel for months with no problems that I know of, including this one. My longest uptime

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 14:24:25 -0500, Dale wrote: That's what I meant tho. I have USB3 ports but it seems they have been running at USB2 speeds since I never enabled USB3 drivers. I sort of missed that. No clue if the stuff I am plugging in supports USB3 or not tho. Maybe my USB sticks do

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 14:24:25 -0500, Dale wrote: That's what I meant tho. I have USB3 ports but it seems they have been running at USB2 speeds since I never enabled USB3 drivers. I sort of missed that. No clue if the stuff I am plugging in supports USB3 or not tho.

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 03:31:43PM -0500, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 14:24:25 -0500, Dale wrote: That's what I meant tho. I have USB3 ports but it seems they have been running at USB2 speeds since I never enabled USB3 drivers. I sort of missed that. No clue

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/10/2013 21:24, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/10/2013 20:36, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) Well, I rebuilt the kernel and removed the OHCI and UHCI.

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:36:50PM -0500, Dale wrote: Well, I rebuilt the kernel and removed the OHCI and UHCI. When I rebooted, it couldn't see my UPS and nut couldn't start its services. So, it appears that mine must be ancient hardware. My messages file is still full of the same error

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 23:07:20 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Your USB sticks are not USB3. I have yet to see one anywhere that is. I can send you a photo of mine :) I don;t thing they are even remotely fast enough to warrant it It is noticeably, but not massively, faster. -- Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 03:31:43PM -0500, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 06 Oct 2013 14:24:25 -0500, Dale wrote: That's what I meant tho. I have USB3 ports but it seems they have been running at USB2 speeds since I never enabled USB3 drivers. I sort of

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
Bruce Hill wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:36:50PM -0500, Dale wrote: Well, I rebuilt the kernel and removed the OHCI and UHCI. When I rebooted, it couldn't see my UPS and nut couldn't start its services. So, it appears that mine must be ancient hardware. My messages file is still full

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/10/2013 21:24, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 06/10/2013 20:36, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) Well, I rebuilt the kernel and

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-06 Thread Dale
Update. I figure what the heck. Time to crawl under the desk for a while. I stop the UPS services and then unplug the USB cable to the UPS. The error stops. I plug the cable back up with the services NOT started, no error but it spits out the messages that it sees the UPS and such. I start

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/10/2013 22:19, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 18:09, Dale wrote: Sometime last night while I was sleeping, my network sort of hiccuped. If I went to a Konsole, I could ping google so it appears the network was working on the lower level but not one browser that was left

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/10/2013 23:52, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:35:33PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote OHCI is a USB 1.1 implementation, I can't imagine why you have it loaded. Surely you do not have USB 1 only hardware? USB2 deals with that nicely. It is possible that you have a shit storm

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-05 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 22:19, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 18:09, Dale wrote: Sometime last night while I was sleeping, my network sort of hiccuped. If I went to a Konsole, I could ping google so it appears the network was working on the lower level but not one

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-05 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 23:52, Walter Dnes wrote: Do *NOT* remove lowspeed USB driver... unless you have a rescue USB stick boot handy. I tried that a few years ago and found that my USB keyboard and mouse stopped working. UHCI is used by Intel and VIA cpus, according to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:06:57AM -0500, Dale wrote: Just remove ohci and uhci from the kernel config These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports) Well, I'm not sure about my UPS. It could be old

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/10/2013 12:13, Dale wrote: Dale changed his motherboard recently, presumably he knows what his chipset offers This is the rig I built a few years ago. It has a Gigabyte mobo but it hasn't been changed yet. I was planning on it but family issues moved that from a burner to not even

[gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-04 Thread Dale
Sometime last night while I was sleeping, my network sort of hiccuped. If I went to a Konsole, I could ping google so it appears the network was working on the lower level but not one browser that was left open would work. It also didn't/couldn't download new emails. When I restarted the

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/10/2013 18:09, Dale wrote: Sometime last night while I was sleeping, my network sort of hiccuped. If I went to a Konsole, I could ping google so it appears the network was working on the lower level but not one browser that was left open would work. It also didn't/couldn't download new

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-04 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 04/10/2013 18:09, Dale wrote: Sometime last night while I was sleeping, my network sort of hiccuped. If I went to a Konsole, I could ping google so it appears the network was working on the lower level but not one browser that was left open would work. It also

Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message

2013-10-04 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:35:33PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote OHCI is a USB 1.1 implementation, I can't imagine why you have it loaded. Surely you do not have USB 1 only hardware? USB2 deals with that nicely. It is possible that you have a shit storm of USB weirdness going on and this in