Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-09 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Mike Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mick wrote: Now I am getting confused - at least one box of mine does not have /etc/env.d/02locale at all. Am I supposed to create it manually? The file isn't automatically created by anything, since strictly speaking

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
smallnow wrote: Mike Edenfield wrote: Um, on my system, i have /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF-8.gz /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/IS8859-1.gz notice charmaps vs charsets the other folders all have en_US files and folders, no utf8 extensions. And my locale stuff seems to work fine. Do you actually

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Hi all, OK, it appears that this has solved the problem as best I can tell right now. The two most consist manifestations of the problem - error messages when running layman and warning messages when starting k3b -

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks for joining in. I have mucho craziness in these directories! /usr/share/locale has way too much stuff, but it doesn't have what I want. It's missing en_US.utf8 and en_US.ISO8859-1. Also, all of what I think are the font files are in a directory called charmaps, not

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mark Knecht wrote: You may be correct about setting all of this in 02locale. I noticed that the Gentoo formatting stuff for vi is treating LC_ALL and LC_COLLATE differently than LINGUAS. The manual seems to say set system wide stuff in 02locale and user stuff in your own account. They are

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 December 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: I guess what I have left to decide is what to do with /etc/env.d/02locale. smallnow suggests putting everything in there it seems. I suspect others here have working systems but nothing in those files. I've never modified that file in 8 years

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 08 December 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: I guess what I have left to decide is what to do with /etc/env.d/02locale. smallnow suggests putting everything in there it seems. I suspect others here have working systems but

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Monday 08 December 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: I guess what I have left to decide is what to do with /etc/env.d/02locale. smallnow suggests putting everything in there it seems. I suspect others here have working systems but nothing in those files. I've never modified that

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-08 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mick wrote: Now I am getting confused - at least one box of mine does not have /etc/env.d/02locale at all. Am I supposed to create it manually? The file isn't automatically created by anything, since strictly speaking you can get away without using it. However, if you are going to add the

[gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
My Gentoo desktop has had a locale problem for longer than I can remember. I haven't been able to solve it on my own, but it didn't seem too important. More a frustration. I switched my profile to the 2008.0 desktop a few days ago. Everything seems to be working but I'm getting more of these

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: My Gentoo desktop has had a locale problem for longer than I can remember. I haven't been able to solve it on my own, but it didn't seem too important. More a frustration. I switched my profile to the 2008.0 desktop a few days ago. Everything seems to be working but I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: My Gentoo desktop has had a locale problem for longer than I can remember. I haven't been able to solve it on my own, but it didn't seem too important. More a frustration. I switched my profile to the 2008.0

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:55 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Check in your /etc/make.conf file and see if you have !some! of this: INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse VIDEO_CARDS=nvidia LINGUAS=en LANG=en_US LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 SANE_BACKENDS=hp NUT_DRIVERS=cyberpower ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: Dale, Thanks. My list seems considerable too small (and possibly incorrect) vs yours. I suspect it should be identical. California, only speak English. CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS} MAKEOPTS=-j2 FEATURES=parallel-fetch

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I'm not sure if the -N feature will catch those changes or not. It may even depend on the version of portage you are using too. The newer versions of portage has a lot of added features but even it may not catch those. You

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mark Knecht wrote: lightning ~ # cat /etc/locale.gen en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 Just to be safe, try running locale-gen again. The glibc ebuild does this automatically, but if you've changed locale.gen since the last time that ebuild ran, you need to run locale-gen to pick up the

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP I'm not sure if the -N feature will catch those changes or not. It may even depend on the version of portage you are using too. The newer versions of portage has a lot of added features but even it may

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Mark Knecht wrote: lightning ~ # locale -a locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory C POSIX This looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Edenfield
Dale wrote: I'm not sure if the -N feature will catch those changes or not. It may even depend on the version of portage you are using too. The newer --newuse will pick up changes to LINGUAS since portage treats that like an expandable variable (like VIDEO_CARDS etc). The other settings

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Mike Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: lightning ~ # locale -a locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread smallnow
Mike Edenfield wrote: You should have a directory in /usr/share/locale for every locale you want available on your system. The source files for the locales should be in /usr/share/i18n/locales and /usr/share/i18n/charsets. That is, you should have all of the following:

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 04:42:53PM -0800, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked: Thanks for joining in. I have mucho craziness in these directories! /usr/share/locale has way too much stuff, but it doesn't have what I want. It's missing en_US.utf8 and en_US.ISO8859-1. Also, all of what I think

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 04:42:53PM -0800, Penguin Lover Mark Knecht squawked: Thanks for joining in. I have mucho craziness in these directories! /usr/share/locale has way too much stuff, but it doesn't have what I want.

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:14 PM, smallnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Edenfield wrote: You should have a directory in /usr/share/locale for every locale you want available on your system. The source files for the locales should be in /usr/share/i18n/locales and /usr/share/i18n/charsets.

Re: [gentoo-user] locale issue to clean up

2008-12-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 5:14 PM, smallnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Edenfield wrote: You should have a directory in /usr/share/locale for every locale you want available on your system. The source files for the locales