Re: Strange Problem: System Code S106

2008-06-30 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
We can in fact reproduce it by copying the load module in error to the PDS library; when LOAD for this module is issued, this produces the I/O error. Am Freitag, 27. Juni 2008 21:48 schrieben Sie: A PMR sounds appropriate to me. Too bad you won't be able to reproduce it. :-(

Re: TN3270 *from* a host??

2008-06-30 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
I was going to say I fear that there is a risk that you may be wrong again :-( and you're not taking me with you this time :-) - but see later. Sorry for not taking you with me. I probably leant out of the window too far this time; not my favourite subject, so I may well be choosing the wrong

Re: Stupid Question of the day.

2008-06-30 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Greg Price wrote: The MULTITSO package in CBT file 134 appeared when the millenium was young, and JES (at least JES2) only allowed one TSU job of a specific name to run at a time. I checked but could not find the relevant code (just came back from a convention). But last millennium we had two

JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I already tried that and it doesn't work: A jcl set variable orks only on real JCL not on instream SYSIN (DD *). Any workaround? Any alternative to modify JCL and SYSIN (for example, deleting/definning datasets with IDCAMS) at one parameter without having to use ISPF CHANGE ALL? Thanks for

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I already tried that and it doesn't work: A jcl set variable orks only on real JCL not on instream SYSIN (DD *). Any workaround? This has been discussed many times (see the archives). The answer is NO. And, this is documented in the JCL manual(s). - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:28:19 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already tried that and it doesn't work: A jcl set variable orks only on real JCL not on instream SYSIN (DD *). Any workaround? Any alternative to modify JCL and SYSIN (for example, deleting/definning datasets with IDCAMS) at one

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread Scott Barry
A JCL SET statement value can also be passed and resolved as a PARM= string, so it is possible to write a program in your favorite language that takes the PARM= value and writes the data to a DD allocation in a job-step. And if you must have multiple data lines substituted, for example as

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:53:35 -0500, Scott Barry wrote: A JCL SET statement value can also be passed and resolved as a PARM= string, so it is possible to write a program in your favorite language that takes the PARM= value and writes the data to a DD allocation in a job-step. And if you must

Is this RNL correct?

2008-06-30 Thread McKown, John
We had some DFHSM problems over the weekend (deadly embrace) on our basic sysplex. Looking at the output of some commands that I have automation issue, I found what I think may be a problem with an RNL entry: RNLDEF RNL(EXCL) TYPE(GENERIC) QNAME(SYSZVVDS) Should this be removed or changed to:

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn [snip] Gee, that's ugly. And not quite modular: you have to

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread Clement Clarke
Jol allows this. You can set up a symbolic variable, or use one of the pre-defined variables, and have it replaced on your card file. For example, %DAY is set up by Jol Then... DCL X * REPLACE; Today is %DAY Month %MONTH EOF; Print x; /* Print the card file */ See

Re: Is this RNL correct?

2008-06-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:49:34 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had some DFHSM problems over the weekend (deadly embrace) on our basic sysplex. Looking at the output of some commands that I have automation issue, I found what I think may be a problem with an RNL entry: RNLDEF

Re: Is this RNL correct?

2008-06-30 Thread Jimmy Wagner
John, The exclude version of the RNL is what we have here. No issues since it was set up by IBM during a MIM to GRS conversion over 3 years ago. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread Barkow, Eileen
I have a program that processes the SET command values passed to it in the parm field and it then uses them to set condition codes. The program passes numbers as condition codes and has a few reserved words it recognizes from the SET commands to pass condition code values. The SET commands are

Re: Chargeback tools

2008-06-30 Thread Howard Brazee
On 29 Jun 2008 09:54:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: what else should be accounted for? There's really no should; it depends on local policy. What's important is that management understands and buys into the charge-back scheme. Also, it is important to be able to

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn I have a program that processes the SET command values passed

Re: Is this RNL correct?

2008-06-30 Thread Bobbie Justice
We use the GRS RNL Pattern Conversion list for all three of the below. from II10752: The resource SYSIGGV2 MUST be converted to a SYSTEMS enqueue when using catalogs in ECS mode. Failure to do so will result in damage to catalogs in ECS mode. This is applicable to

Re: Utilization of Mainframe Software Licenses

2008-06-30 Thread Jacky Bright
My CEO is asking me to generate report on software licensing usage ... Even I am not aware what this jargon is ? On 6/27/08, Schwarz, Barry A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give some context please. -Original Message- From: Jacky Bright [mailto:snip] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:23 AM

Re: Strange Problem: System Code S106

2008-06-30 Thread Peter Relson
we faced a strange problem with a system code S106, as response to a LOAD macro call. The error was yours. If the system had been asked to load your module it would have properly dealt with this situation. You cannot just do lookup of the CDE unless you account for any and every bit combination

Re: Utilization of Mainframe Software Licenses

2008-06-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Perhaps your CEO read this article by Gartner? OVERCOMING THE SOFTWARE LICENSING COMPLEXITY CRISIS The Case for a Universal Licensing Platform http://www.softsummit.com/library/white_papers/gartner_overcomingcomplexity.pdf Lizette My CEO is asking me to generate report on software

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-06-30 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
I have a slightly different requirement, and I have come to the conclusion that I can’t meet it. I have a user that wants to share zFSes between a subset of systems within a 13-way parallel sysplex. Not all dasd is shared between all members of the sysplex. We merged 3 sysplexes into one and

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-06-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:42:02 -0500, Andrew Metcalfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a slightly different requirement, and I have come to the conclusion that I can’t meet it. I have a user that wants to share zFSes between a subset of systems within a 13-way parallel sysplex. Not all dasd is

FTP QUESTION - Put Command

2008-06-30 Thread John Dawes
Good Day,   I am attempting to FTP a file to a sequential dataset which is preallocated  on the MAINFRAME.   When I issued the command :put jclbkup 'my.dsn.mainframe' .  The jclbkup is the name of the file which is on my D drive.  The command is accepted but I don't see any records being FTP'd. 

Re: FTP QUESTION - Put Command

2008-06-30 Thread John P Kalinich
John Dawes fo the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/30/2008 11:06:50 AM: Good Day, I am attempting to FTP a file to a sequential dataset which is preallocated on the MAINFRAME. When I issued the command :put jclbkup 'my.dsn.mainframe' . The jclbkup is

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-06-30 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Metcalfe Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: USS file sharing in z/OS I have a slightly different requirement, and I have come to the

Re: FTP QUESTION - Put Command

2008-06-30 Thread John Dawes
Here it is: ftp PUT Local file D:\Documents and Settings\SYSEN1\My Documents\NTP FTP\FTPTEST --- On Tue, 1/7/08, John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FTP QUESTION - Put Command To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Received: Tuesday, 1 July, 2008,

Re: FTP QUESTION - Put Command

2008-06-30 Thread Alan Brown
I think you need to add the (REPLACE command at the end of the FTP command Alan Brown IBM Software Group John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 06/30/2008 12:06 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip A JCL SET statement value can also be passed and resolved as a PARM= string, so it is possible to write a program in your favorite language that takes the PARM= value and writes the data to a DD allocation in a job-step. And if you

Re: Utilization of Mainframe Software Licenses

2008-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip Perhaps your CEO read this article by Gartner? OVERCOMING THE SOFTWARE LICENSING COMPLEXITY CRISIS The Case for a Universal Licensing Platform http://www.softsummit.com/library/white_papers/gartner_overcomingcomplexity.pdf

BMC DBU December 2007 maintenance level plus a PTF (BPQ2035) needed for ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO)

2008-06-30 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, We ran into an issue at DRP with the recovery jobs getting ABEND B78-5C running BACKUP AND RECOVERY FOR IMS VERSION  4.2.00 MAINTENANCE DATE  11/09/06 with z/OS setting ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO). BMC DBU December 2007 maintenance level plus a PTF (BPQ2035) is required to finally remove

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIN

2008-06-30 Thread Itschak Mugzach
As this problem drove me crazy today, I decided to developed some code. I wrote a rexx exec that is an ISPF macro that replaces the buildin send command, It does the following: * save changes done until macro starts. * Force undo on and nosave in the member's profile to keep the

Re: FTP QUESTION - Put Command

2008-06-30 Thread Mark Pace
I think he was referring to the output from the command you issued. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:15 PM, John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here it is: ftp PUT Local file D:\Documents and Settings\SYSEN1\My Documents\NTP FTP\FTPTEST --- On Tue, 1/7/08, John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-06-30 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
. but I guess that all systems in the subset have to be converted to have the new file systems e.g. sysplex root and version? and the sysplex root has to be AUTOMOVE. Whilst this may work technically, I feel that I might be buying into a whole stack of trouble! This will be difficult to

Re: JCL SET command and instream SYSIn

2008-06-30 Thread Bass, Walter W
snip I agree that SET variables are very useful. But I think that they could be more useful if they were more like UNIX environment variables - accessible to running programs. Perhaps via the ASASYMBM interface. The 100 char limit on PARM, limits how much data you can pass to a program

Another difference between platforms...

2008-06-30 Thread Gary Green
Back in the 80's we mainframe(rs) went from 24 bit to 31 bit, then towards the end of the millennium, we started migrating to 64 bit with the introduction of z/OS. During all this time I do not recall any of the applications we ran on the older platforms ever going dark because of the change.

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-06-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:15:00 -0500, Andrew Metcalfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. but I guess that all systems in the subset have to be converted to have the new file systems e.g. sysplex root and version? Not true. and the sysplex root has to be AUTOMOVE. Yes, for the participating

Re: Another difference between platforms...

2008-06-30 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Another difference between platforms... Back in the 80's we mainframe(rs) went from 24 bit to 31 bit,

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-06-30 Thread Steve Comstock
Andrew Metcalfe wrote: [snip] As none of us are getting any younger, I am trying to reduce complexity rather than introduce some bespoke processing that will trip up our succesors! And, of course, your company is preparing for the departure of the older heads by training the younger

Re: DFDSS Question - DSCHA

2008-06-30 Thread willie bunter
I took your --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DFDSS Question - DSCHA To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 12:17 PM - Original Message - From: willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups:

Re: DFDSS Question - DSCHA

2008-06-30 Thread willie bunter
I took --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DFDSS Question - DSCHA To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 12:17 PM - Original Message - From: willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups:

Re: Utilization of Mainframe Software Licenses

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Moulder
The first thing that came to my mind was the term Shelfware. A valid question to ask is whether software that you are paying license fees to use is actually being used -- perhaps a rather unique view of utilization. Further, you might ask how large the user community is compared to the cost of

Re: DFDSS Question - DSCHA

2008-06-30 Thread willie bunter
I took your advice, however the datasets were not backed up from good voumes.  --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DFDSS Question - DSCHA To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 12:17 PM - Original Message -

Re: Another difference between platforms...

2008-06-30 Thread Gary Green
On all I concur... Their development platforms are just as bad. I remember a PC project I worked on somewhere around the tail end of the 90's, a pretty big one at that. By the time project was complete, the development environment and platform had changed under our feet. I was so pissed

Issue with DB2 Tools (CA) and z/OS V1.9

2008-06-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just a heads up. When I IPL'd our z/OS V1.9 system the DB2 Tools (PTXMAIN STC) died with a B78 REASON CODE=005C I added VSM ALLOWCSAUSERKEY(YES) to DIAG00 and it worked. I guess this might have been another CA product bit by the ALLOWCSAUSERKEY issue. Lizette

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:43:08 +0200, Thomas Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008023617_camin erobit29.html) ... Certainly no reflection on Mr. Camimer but that Seattle Times article would have been a bit better if it had not said:

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: David Caminer (1915-2008) On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:43:08 +0200, Thomas Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread William Donzelli
No, the writer is quite technically astute and meant that the vacuum tube circuits with their chokes, coils, etc. were ELECTRICALLY noisy. But knowing that their audience wouldn't have a clue (as the editor didn't either) and so cut all that out so that it just said that the vacuum tubes were

Re: Issue with DB2 Tools (CA) and z/OS V1.9

2008-06-30 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Lizette, You can upgrade to r11.5 SP1 to address this. We are running the CA DB2 Tools Suite with ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) without any problems after making that upgrade. I don't believe they have announced a General Availability date for CA/Unicenter DB2 11.5 SP2 yet so SP1 is the most current

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- And, of course, your company is preparing for the departure of the older heads by training the younger heads, to guarantee some continuity of maintaining and enhancing the applications that keep the company running successfully.

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:30:58 -0400, Thompson, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... No, the writer is quite technically astute and meant that the vacuum tube circuits with their chokes, coils, etc. were ELECTRICALLY noisy. ... You may be right. You are definitely giving the author more credit

Re: Utilization of Mainframe Software Licenses

2008-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- The first thing that came to my mind was the term Shelfware. A valid question to ask is whether software that you are paying license fees to use is actually being used -- perhaps a rather unique view of utilization. Further, you

Re: Another difference between platforms...

2008-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- On all I concur... Their development platforms are just as bad. I remember a PC project I worked on somewhere around the tail end of the 90's, a pretty big one at that. By the time project was complete, the development environment and

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip Noisy vacuum tubes? Vacuum tubes had a number of drawbacks but I don't recall their being particularly noisy. I can only assume the original models either had a bunch of clattering relays, or noisy cooling systems.

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip No, the writer is quite technically astute and meant that the vacuum tube circuits with their chokes, coils, etc. were ELECTRICALLY noisy. But knowing that their audience wouldn't have a clue (as the editor didn't either) and so

Re: Issue with DB2 Tools (CA) and z/OS V1.9

2008-06-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks Sam. Lizette Hi Lizette, You can upgrade to r11.5 SP1 to address this. We are running the CA DB2 Tools Suite with ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) without any problems after making that upgrade. I don't believe they have announced a General Availability date for CA/Unicenter DB2 11.5 SP2 yet so

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Bass, Walter W
--snip Tubes can be VERY noisy, electrically. Even if they're virtually silent when you're standing there listening. --unsnip I was a young lad I would watch (and listen) most

SMS construct pgm name

2008-06-30 Thread Jack Kelly
Has anyone developed a methodology to determine if FTP is the program creating SMS dsn? Currently we have a fall thru test for pgm = BPXPRECP but I think that's the exec() program, not just FTP? Of course we have the various flavors of FTP, FTP port 21, sFTP (ported tools) and TECTIA, but I

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bass, Walter W --snip Tubes can be VERY noisy, electrically. Even if they're virtually silent when you're standing there listening.

Re: SMS construct pgm name

2008-06-30 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Kelly Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS construct pgm name Has anyone developed a methodology to determine if FTP is the program creating

Re: SMS construct pgm name

2008-06-30 Thread Darth Keller
Jack - You can always add a code segment with a write statement to allow you to test. Something like: IF (DSN = 'your.test.data.set.name.here') THEN DO WRITE 'DCD0300 ' DSN ' ' PGM ' ' DSORG ' ' DATACLAS END Has anyone developed a methodology to determine if FTP is the

We are what we are ...

2008-06-30 Thread Shane Ginnane
Quoting Chase, John : The only other detail I remember are the tubes it used: One each 12SA7, 12SK7, 12SQ7, 50L6 and 35Z5. Fancy still having that level of detail rattling around your head. Sort of pre-ordained to be a geek John ... Shane ...

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: David Caminer (1915-2008) On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:30:58 -0400, Thompson, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Bass, Walter W
--snip I remember my first (and last) radio kit emitted a barely audible high-pitched whine when turned on. The only other detail I remember --unsnip Now you're making a connection

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Craddock, Chris
--snip I remember my first (and last) radio kit emitted a barely audible high-pitched whine when turned on. The only other detail I remember --unsnip [CLC] my guitar amp is full

Re: Utilization of Mainframe Software Licenses

2008-06-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The first thing that came to my mind was the term Shelfware. When Parallel SYSPLEX first came out, you got a discount on IBM software, if you bought at least one coupling facility and one timer. This happened even if you didn't hook them up. Then, a couple of years later, you had to hook them

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread William Donzelli
Now you're making a connection back to the original article. That high-pitched whine was from high frequency magnetic fields causing the internal ferrous parts of the tube to vibrate. This would sometimes be at harmonic frequencies that would cause the external tube or even the mounting

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread William Donzelli
Last post of mine on this subject, hopefully... But the big difference is, lots of voltage = large electromagnetic field. Low voltage with low amperage = small electromagnetic field. Tubes use large voltage differences, solid state uses small differences. It all boils down to noise margins.

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If you have an old amp with tubes, try this - just very lightly tap the side of the tube with a pencil, and hear what sounds like a Chinese gong being struck. When I went to the University of Waterloo, in the mid 1970's, I had a professor who did his masters at MIT. They had a vacuum tube

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Thompson, Steve wrote: I don't remember what vacuum tube logic circuits looked like. Are you sure they were much noisier than the transisterized circuits that replaced them? I never saw the tubes in the earlier machines, except in pictures, but the last tube generation used any of a family

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread William Donzelli
When I went to the University of Waterloo, in the mid 1970's, I had a professor who did his masters at MIT. They had a vacuum tube computer that had all its tubes mounted on both walls of what was basically a 6-metre corridor. Somebody would have to go in everyday and run the erasor end of

Re: Utilization of Mainframe Software Licenses

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Moulder
Discounts have been an issue for years now. It invariably leads to hard feelings on both sides of the negotiating table. Software companies feel they have given up too much -- I've personally seen 90% discounts on MF software license fees -- and customers feel like they are not getting as good a

Re: TN3270 *from* a host??

2008-06-30 Thread Chris Mason
Peter You misunderstood. I wasn't talking about the raw option but your contention that raw wasn't supported. You were entirely correct. Now you have explained and it looks just like what I described in my response to Natarajan as echo mode. So indeed such a protocol, efficient only when used

Re: Another difference between platforms...

2008-06-30 Thread Gary Green
I enjoy cross-country motorcycle trips. Unfortunately, once I started working for a consulting outfit, that fell to the wayside. :( Perhaps at my next job... (he says hopefully) Gary Green While the big event is over, there is still time for you to help me with my efforts to assist those

Re: David Caminer (1915-2008)

2008-06-30 Thread Andy Wood
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:21:46 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Certainly no reflection on Mr. Camimer but that Seattle Times article would have been a bit better if it had not said: ...developed two more generations of LEO, the last with transistors, rather than the noisy

Re: We are what we are ...

2008-06-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/30/2008 4:03:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sort of pre-ordained to be a geek John ... RCA pocket protector and Deitzen slide-rule come to mind... **Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used