Re: DS6800 and OS/390 2.9

2011-09-15 Thread Brian Westerman
You can use the DS/6xxx under OS/390 (back to 2.7), but you cannot use some of the DS/6xxx features. You also MUST use system Z hardware (i.e. z-series), you cannot use a 9672 (or anything older than a z/800). We ran fine with a customer converting on a z/800 with OS/390 2.7 who converted

Re: DS6800 and OS/390 2.9

2011-09-15 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-09-15 10:26, Brian Westerman wrote: [...] you cannot use a 9672 (or anything older than a z/800). [...] we were told that it wouldn't work, we never really got a chance to test it. I do believe that it probably would not have worked on the 9672 though. Well... The above is not a

Re: CCW Trace

2011-09-15 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I found a C++/assembler program from 1995. (The assembler to READ VTOC) It has read the CCW trace , and reported the DSN names and counts from the VTOC. On 9/14/2011 10:42 PM, Staller, Allan wrote: I have a DASD volume with very high activity and will be running a CCW trace to gather

Re: Mainframe article

2011-09-15 Thread Paul Gillis
From my last Share meeting in the mid 80s, JES3 is 1 Better. Paul -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 12:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Mainframe article

Re: Mainframe article

2011-09-15 Thread Barry Merrill
I didn't check all of the postings under this thread, but all of the buttons cited are viewable, and most credit the author and many have some history, at http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman plus there is the parody recording of Hoyt Axton's Boney Fingers, new words written by Anne Ashley and

Re: Mainframe article

2011-09-15 Thread Shane
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:05:49 +1000 Paul wrote: From my last Share meeting in the mid 80s, JES3 is 1 Better. JES3 never had much appeal I must admit - however, at my first (American) Share, I decided I'd drop over to the JES3 table to see if anyone knew who the hell this Jaffe fella was. Nope

HYBRID is now In Vogue

2011-09-15 Thread Jim Marshall
Has anyone been notified of IBM changing their handles from zSeries or z something to Hybrid something. I ask this because I just purchased some IBM hardware of various types and my z hardware sales person is no longer z. The person now shows as the official IBM title Channel Hybrid Sales

Re: HYBRID is now In Vogue

2011-09-15 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-09-15 14:17, Jim Marshall pisze: Has anyone been notified of IBM changing their handles from zSeries or z something to Hybrid something. I ask this because I just purchased some IBM hardware of various types and my z hardware sales person is no longer z. The person now shows as

TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Bill Hecox
Several years ago I was working at a bank. They had a T/R network. Emplyees had a Desktop PC with a T/R card and a 3270 emulator(Attachmate I think). They connected to M/F using SNA/LLC2 to an IBM 3172. I asked a few of the employees to try TN3270 from the emulator to the IBM TCP/IP TN3270

Re: HYBRID is now In Vogue

2011-09-15 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, Sep 15th, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov wrote: Has anyone been notified of IBM changing their handles from zSeries or z something to Hybrid something. Nice timing ... Australia today announced a third option on passports for gender - Male, Female and X (I kid you

Re: HYBRID is now In Vogue

2011-09-15 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
Jim, I think 'channel' and 'hybrid' are sales/marketing/supply chain terms, not technical terms, in this case. MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: HYBRID is now In Vogue

2011-09-15 Thread John Cousins
Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead! ? Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov 15/09/2011 13:17 Has anyone been notified of IBM changing their handles from zSeries or z something to Hybrid something. I ask this because I just purchased some IBM hardware of various types and my z hardware sales person is

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:57:02 -0500, Bill Hecox bill.he...@mail.com wrote: Several years ago I was working at a bank. They had a T/R network. Emplyees had a Desktop PC with a T/R card and a 3270 emulator(Attachmate I think). They connected to M/F using SNA/LLC2 to an IBM 3172. I asked a few of

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Matan Cohen
I had the same problem because of a firewall not under my control , so I enabled TSO-reconnect. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:57:02 -0500, Bill Hecox bill.he...@mail.com wrote: Several years ago I was working at a bank. They had a

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Bill Hecox
At the time we talked to some other shops and they had the same experience so we went back to LLC2. I was just talking to another co-worker. He indicated that IBM had problems with there TN3270 Server early on with dropped sessions. IBM came out with many fixes for the TN3270 server and was

Re: Mainframe article

2011-09-15 Thread Scott Ford
Ed,   Yep, I agree, more than likely there are some legal issues. I am just curious on what the REAL number of z/OS shops are in the World and the USA.   Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Object modules

2011-09-15 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 9/13/2011 12:26 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: I wouldn't say that. I'm not aware of a case where a delinker will silently produce an object deck that doesn't match the load module. Back in the sixties I ran into a problem with a module that had several CSECTs from a single assembly. DELINK0

Re: Object modules

2011-09-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:25:36 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: Back in the sixties I ran into a problem with a module that had several CSECTs from a single assembly. DELINK0 appeared to work correctly, but the linker forced one of the names to a double-word boundary which it hadn't been before. I

Re: Object modules

2011-09-15 Thread Dan Skomsky, PSTI
I believe all CSECTs will start on a double-word boundary, but any USER defined external reference within a CSECT has no boundary requirement. Are you saying that DELINK0 forced a non-CSECT external reference to be double-word aligned? If so, that ain't no good. -Original Message- From:

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Chris Mason
Bill Does this problem still exist? Your third response is from a Bill Hecox ... IBM came out with many fixes for the TN3270 server and was stablized by 2005-2006. assuring us that IBM has dealt with presumably a number of problems, one per fix in general, and one would hope that whatever

Re: HYBRID is now In Vogue

2011-09-15 Thread Dave Salt
Australia today announced a third option on passports for gender - Male, Female and X (I kid you not). But X represents a female chromosome, and Y is for male. If only they'd gone with Z it would have fit right in with this group! ;-) Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it!

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Bill, The IBM Communications Server TCP/IP and TN3270 support is very robust and we have run a good size z TCP network for years on both OS/390 and now z/OS without ever having significant issues with dropped sessions. I would second Mark's suggestion that the problem you were aware of was

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:13:29 -0400, Knutson, Sam sknut...@geico.com wrote: Hi Bill, The IBM Communications Server TCP/IP and TN3270 support is very robust and we have run a good size z TCP network for years on both OS/390 and now z/OS without ever having significant issues with dropped

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Hal Merritt
Sounds like a firewall issue in that it times out before the session. Many emulators have a 'keep alive' feature. Try that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Hecox Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:57 AM To:

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread zMan
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: Sounds like a firewall issue in that it times out before the session.  Many emulators have a 'keep alive' feature. Try that. MTU can also manifest this way. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it

DFSORT JOINKEYS question: Where to put INREC and OUTREC?

2011-09-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I have developed a JOINKEYS application, but I need to do one more function as part of the process, if it is possible. I am joining two VB files on 2 keys in the fixed part of the VB records and using OUTFIL statements to split the result into multiple output files. In each of the output

Re: DFSORT JOINKEYS question: Where to put INREC and OUTREC?

2011-09-15 Thread Frank Yaeger
Peter, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but I can think of two ways to get a count like that. One would be to use an IFTHEN WHEN=INIT clause in each OUTFIL before the other IFTHEN clauses to insert the sequence number (of course, you have to adjust the positions in the subsequent

New Course Announcement: DB2 Version 10 Differences

2011-09-15 Thread Steve Comstock
DB2 Version 10 is now out, and our DB2 course author, Hunter Cobb, has been hard at work putting together an intense course that explains the new features and helps DBAs and application programmers use these features. This is our most intensive DB2 Differences course ever and includes nine hands

New Course Announcement: DB2 Version 10 Differences

2011-09-15 Thread Steve Comstock
DB2 Version 10 is now out, and our DB2 course author, Hunter Cobb, has been hard at work putting together an intense course that explains the new features and helps DBAs and application programmers use these features. This is our most intensive DB2 Differences course ever and includes nine hands

Re: DFSORT JOINKEYS question: Where to put INREC and OUTREC?

2011-09-15 Thread Frank Yaeger
Peter, Looking at your note again. I suspect that DFSORT's relatively new IFTRAIL function of OUTFIL can help you do what you want more easily (I suspect it wasn't yet available when I showed you the SEQNUM trick). For complete details on DFSORT's IFTRAIL, see:

Re: DFSORT JOINKEYS question: Where to put INREC and OUTREC?

2011-09-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hi Frank, Replying in reverse order to your helpful replies. Unfortunately I am using one of your competitors' products (Syncsort) and they don't have IFTRAIL yet, though I suppose they will at some point. I will reply at more length to your other message shortly. Thanks again for helping.

Re: DFSORT JOINKEYS question: Where to put INREC and OUTREC?

2011-09-15 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:24:43 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: Unfortunately I am using one of your competitors' products (Syncsort) and they don't have IFTRAIL yet, though I suppose they will at some point. Speaking entirely personally, and not as a

Re: DFSORT JOINKEYS question: Where to put INREC and OUTREC?

2011-09-15 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Well, I do also have DFSORT available, but for this application I won't know a priori which product will be used (it may run in different locations on different sysplexes) so I need to keep it compatible. I am testing with both SORT versions. Sorry if I did not make that clear. Peter

Re: HYBRID is now In Vogue

2011-09-15 Thread Jack Schudel
Given the zBX sidecar for the z196 and z114, I think that the term Hybrid is appropriate, even if it is a bit optimistic. /jack - Original Message - From: Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011

Re: DFSORT JOINKEYS question: Where to put INREC and OUTREC?

2011-09-15 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:12:57 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: Well, I do also have DFSORT available, but for this application I won't know a priori which product will be used (it may run in different locations on different sysplexes) so I need to keep it

Re: TN3270 Session Hangs

2011-09-15 Thread Bill Hecox
It was some time ago and the exact details escape me. I am relieved that the TN3270 Server is stable and can handle thousands of simultaneous sessions without difficulty. I do not want to get in a situation of suggesting that a shop convert to using TN3270 to the IBM TN3270 Server and have

AUTO: C.D. Keltie is away. (returning 19/09/2011)

2011-09-15 Thread Colin Keltie
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zOS 32-bit ? 64-bit ?

2011-09-15 Thread Lim Ming Liang
How do I identify a particular running z/OS is 32-bit or 64-bit ? -- Regards Lim ML -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: zOS 32-bit ? 64-bit ?

2011-09-15 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-09-16 06:52, Lim Ming Liang pisze: How do I identify a particular running z/OS is 32-bit or 64-bit ? It's easy: it is always 64-bit. There is small chance that you find 31-bit machine (9672) and z/OS 1.4 or eralier. In such case z/OS is 31 bit. (to other members of the