Re: [JAVA2D] Odd Vista, NVidia, dual-display, Java interaction...
Well, if it helps any, this is not a Vista related issue, as I have what appears to be the same problem with the Java client of a PDM system (big parts/drawing database for my company) in Windows XP Pro, where if I run the application in single screen mode or undocked, it works fine. However running the application in dual-screen mode, I get the application on the primary display, and a magnified (to varying degrees) and letterboxed copy on the secondary screen, and as soon as I create an event (open a record or start a search) in the Java application, it causes a physical memory dump (the veritable blue screen of death) pointed at the Nvidia driver... While I would normally jump to point the finger at the Java application, I think in this case it is indeed the driver not liking Java apps, as the Java Control Panel even does the same thing. Originally, I had the same issue where the machine would power down if I hot-docked it with the Java application running or having been run since last reboot. Since the latest Java update (JRE1.6.2), this has manifested itself as first described. My workaround is to simply boot in single screen mode, run the application, then switch to dual screen mode and everything is fine. I got a tip to try deleting all the docked hardware profiles, and let a fresh one be recreated, but no dice... Best of luck to all in resolving this one - I will post again if I find anything useful... [Message sent by forum member 'skyfish84' (skyfish84)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=295717 === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help.
Re: [JAVA2D] Odd Vista, NVidia, dual-display, Java interaction...
Thanks for the update. Which java version do you use? Thanks, Dmitri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will add some more information to this problem. I also use ID Trader Work Station (TWS), with dual monitors under Vista. I have had the same or similar error with the system stopping instantly with no error message. I an running a desktop with an ATI board, very new system all new drivers, and recent versions of all software, including JAVA, no shortage of memory or CPU. I have found my error only occured when I was running Open Office at the same time as IB TWS. Open Office also is very slow in opening files and bringing up print menus. I would normally call this a developer problem, except the combination runs fine under XP. I also had the problem occur while I was using this page earlier today. I suspect some type of confict involving IO or possible sockets with the internet, but this is not my area. I will simple not use open office and IB TWS at the same time. [Message sent by forum member 'edward34' (edward34)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=283040 === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help. === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help.
Re: [JAVA2D] Odd Vista, NVidia, dual-display, Java interaction...
Dmitri, Yes, I mean only maximized when I refer to full screen. Sorry for the confusion. Here's a link to a demo of the Trader Workstation (I'm using the Individual product). http://individuals.interactivebrokers.com/en/p.php?f=twsp=dib_entity=llc Today, I'm running the app with the latest 6UN. So far, so good, but it normally only happens 2 or 3 times a day, so it's too early to declare victory. If it still fails, I'll try going to one 1600x1200 screen. When running both displays, the 1600x1200 is the primary display (identified as 1, as well as having the task bar and the desktop icons on it.) So far, no problems with SwingSet. Thanks for you continued help. Richard [Message sent by forum member 'rrelph' (rrelph)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=252514 === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help.
Re: [JAVA2D] Odd Vista, NVidia, dual-display, Java interaction...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moments after I posted this, the symptom occurred. (Machine simply powers off. No BSOD, no warning, just off. Like the power cord had been pulled on a desktop. Only this is a notebook with a fully charged battery plugged in to a UPS. ;-) I am now starting to suspect that this doesn't have much to do with graphics. 6u3 and 6u10 use very different APIs for rendering on Vista, so I can't imagine how both of them could cause such failure. I'm wondering if you have an issue with system memory or something. Java may trigger it because it uses quite a bit of memory. I don't know, just thinking aloud. Do you have your manifacturer's testing tools? (sometimes you can boot into their tools and run some tests from there) Also, could you check event log and see if there's anything there? (Control Panel/ Administrative Tools/Event Viewer). Thanks, Dmitri Next experiment: run with just one display, the external 1600x1200 display. Personally, I think this will work, but that's just gut feel. Thanks, Richard [Message sent by forum member 'rrelph' (rrelph)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=252518 === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help. === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help.
Re: [JAVA2D] Odd Vista, NVidia, dual-display, Java interaction...
I'm sitting at less than 60% of physical memory used and I'm often up over 80% (Firefox likes to wallow in the stuff, as does the Business Contact Manager's database engine). I have run all the diagnostics I can get my hands on already. PC Doctor and MemTest86+ are the two I remember the names of. No issues found. In the system logs, I found the entry associated with the restart, but nothing in the 25 minutes prior to that. Of course, the suddenness of the shutdown is absolute. In the minute or so prior to the last shutdown, I had filed a mail message in a different folder, but on restart, it was still in my inbox. So far, with just the one external display, all is well. How can I confirm the version of Java underlying the app? Thanks, Richard [Message sent by forum member 'rrelph' (rrelph)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=252567 === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help.
Re: [JAVA2D] Odd Vista, NVidia, dual-display, Java interaction...
My applet goes fullscreen exclusive. Don't know if an applet will do you any good http://pancyl.com F1 enters; ESC exits fullscreen exclusive... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reposted from http://weblogs.java.net/blog/chet/archive/2006/10/java_on_vista_y.html on Dmitri's suggestion... So here's an interesting problem, related to - if not directly caused by - Java on Vista. Brand new machine (Lenovo T61p T7700, 4GB, NVidia Quadro FX 570M driving 1680x1050 LCD, Vista Ultimate 32-bit from Microsoft GM DVD - not the Lenovo pre-install), with Java 1.6.0_03. When docked (but not when not docked), I run it in a dual-monitor configuration (add on a 1600x1200 external display via DVI). Two or three times a day, the machine simply turns off when I am switching to or from the Java application (Interactive Brokers trade station started via .jnlp download through Firefox). If I don't have the IB Java app running, the machine works flawlessly. If I run the IB Java app undocked (ie, just the 1680x1050 LCD driven), no problem. Seems like an odd interaction between the display driver and Java. I'm running the NVidia 7.15.11.5685 drivers dated 12/10/07. Again, it's not a BSOD. The machine simply and instantaneously powers off. Java itself, I hope, cannot do that, but the display driver might be able to cause such a serious fault. Any thoughts? Dmitri has suggested I try a different Java app and the latest build of 6uN, which I'll do. I'll add that I run the Java app full screen (which, in a dual display environment, means only 1 screen - the 1600x1200 screen, which is below the 1680x1050 screen). As I don't have any other Java apps that I routinely run, I'm willing to try any Java apps anyone thinks might be best for this kind of trial. Thanks, Richard [Message sent by forum member 'rrelph' (rrelph)] http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=252272 === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help. === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help.
Re: [JAVA2D] Odd Vista, NVidia, dual-display, Java interaction...
Thanks, Richard, for submitting this. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reposted from http://weblogs.java.net/blog/chet/archive/2006/10/java_on_vista_y.html on Dmitri's suggestion... So here's an interesting problem, related to - if not directly caused by - Java on Vista. Brand new machine (Lenovo T61p T7700, 4GB, NVidia Quadro FX 570M driving 1680x1050 LCD, Vista Ultimate 32-bit from Microsoft GM DVD - not the Lenovo pre-install), with Java 1.6.0_03. When docked (but not when not docked), I run it in a dual-monitor configuration (add on a 1600x1200 external display via DVI). Two or three times a day, the machine simply turns off when I am switching to or from the Java application (Interactive Brokers trade station started via When you say switch to/from, do you mean alt+tabbing in/out? (I'm asking because you mentioned that the application is running full-screen - I'm assuming it's real full-screen mode). Or did you just mean maximized window? .jnlp download through Firefox). If I don't have the IB Java app running, Do you have a link for this application? (hopefully they have a demo I could try) the machine works flawlessly. If I run the IB Java app undocked (ie, just the 1680x1050 LCD driven), no problem. Seems like an odd interaction between the display driver and Java. I'm running the NVidia 7.15.11.5685 drivers dated 12/10/07. Again, it's not a BSOD. The machine simply and instantaneously powers off. Java itself, I hope, cannot do that, but the display driver might be able to cause such a serious fault. Any thoughts? Dmitri has suggested I try a different Java app and the latest build of 6uN, which I'll do. I'll add that I run the Java app full screen (which, in a dual display environment, means only 1 screen - the 1600x1200 screen, which is below the 1680x1050 screen). Does the problem occur when you only have one screen (1600x1200)? Which of the two screen is your primary screen? As I don't have any other Java apps that I routinely run, I'm willing to try any Java apps anyone thinks might be best for this kind of trial. You can try one of these simple demos for a start (SwingSet would be preferable): http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/demos.html None of them enter full-screen mode though. Thank you, Dmitri Java2D Team === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message signoff JAVA2D-INTEREST. For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message help.
