Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-08 Thread Rolf Huehne
On 10/07/2014 06:12 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: Q: Does JSmol allow that an atom is part of more than one residue or would this interfere with something? Certainly an atom can only be in one residue. Each atom has a group property that points to its residue. Sorry, I should have posed the

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-08 Thread Herráez Sánchez Ángel
Rolf, Would it be possible without too much trouble and work to extend the current group property by a grouplist property that would enable to put an atom into multiple groupsand integrating this seamlessly into the current group concept? To me, that sounds exactly like setting a new,

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-08 Thread Rolf Huehne
On 10/08/2014 11:54 AM, Herráez Sánchez Ángel wrote: Rolf, Would it be possible without too much trouble and work to extend the current group property by a grouplist property that would enable to put an atom into multiple groupsand integrating this seamlessly into the current group concept?

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-08 Thread Rolf Huehne
On 10/08/2014 02:11 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: Groups are at the core of Jmol for PDB files, which are among the largest (slowest to process). They are key to all processing, including rendering. The idea of going from a one-group simple pointer method to a multi-group look-up table for

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-07 Thread Rolf Huehne
On 10/06/2014 08:38 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: Probably not. I didn't realize we were talking about quite so many nodes. Still, the UFF field is interesting because it might work with any geometry -- leaving angles out all together. We might have to add something to get it to ignore certain

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-07 Thread Angel Herráez
Hi Rolf This is interesting but not what I can really discuss about, but I'd contribute one or two hints: One really nice thing (I've seen it in other tree viewers) would be the ability for the user to pull a node and have the whole thing rearrange dynamically. That's a force field and Jmol

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-07 Thread Rolf Huehne
On 10/07/2014 04:50 PM, Angel Herráez wrote: Hi Rolf This is interesting but not what I can really discuss about, but I'd contribute one or two hints: One really nice thing (I've seen it in other tree viewers) would be the ability for the user to pull a node and have the whole thing

[Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-06 Thread Rolf Huehne
Hi developers, I am in the brainstorming phase for a possible use of JSmol as an interactive 3D network viewer. In April 2008 there was a thread on the 'jmol-users' list (Hub and Non-Hub) where this kind of application was described to some extent by Joe Ivanic. Although it is not a

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-06 Thread Robert Hanson
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Rolf Huehne rhue...@fli-leibniz.de wrote: Hi developers, Q: I was wondering if it might be possible to achieve this by tuning the 'minimize' command with some extra parameters or maybe by enabling to define a custom 'minimize' function? I think if

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-06 Thread Rolf Huehne
On 10/06/2014 02:22 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Rolf Huehne rhue...@fli-leibniz.de wrote: Hi developers, Q: I was wondering if it might be possible to achieve this by tuning the 'minimize' command with some extra parameters or maybe by enabling to

Re: [Jmol-developers] JSmol as network viewer

2014-10-06 Thread Robert Hanson
Probably not. I didn't realize we were talking about quite so many nodes. Still, the UFF field is interesting because it might work with any geometry -- leaving angles out all together. We might have to add something to get it to ignore certain energy components. Angles and dihedrals, for