Yes, good question. If there is a publisher and place stated,
I would consult the appropriate government or library agency in the country
of origin, that would advise on copyright.
If you do a google search for, for example 'copyright in name of country'
you should get some useful links. Chances
Alice wrote:
I could spend longer in Brugge or other continental cities where lace is
available.
I've heard there's one museum in Brugges you shouldn't miss - the 'Chip
(Fries) Museum' :-D
What will people think of to exhibit next?
Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK
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Dear Sue,
I loved the comment - it says so much.
Do you remember where it comes from? It would be brilliant to have the full
citation. Sorry if I sound too much like the Librarian that I am.
Annette in cold Wollongong Australia
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Hello Patsy
I can't think of any brand name which is even remotely like An hgre,
An ngre, Ah hgre, Anngre or Anhgre. Would it be possible for you to
post a scan of the label somewhere? Then lots of eyes could try to
identify it.
Size 230 is very fine, but even so 4.50 GBP was quite a lot
I'm nowhere near organised enough to catalogue all the threads I have!
I did once make a start on listing which colours I had of some of the
more used threads (Venne Colcoton, Moravia Linen etc)
My threads are stored in a variety of boxes, card, plastic and metal,
depending on what was
Could the 230 be the shade number rather than the size?
Sue T
First thing I thought of seeing this was Anchor. But the finest
Anchor thread I know of would be No. 80, not 230.
Best, Achim.
Hello Patsy
I can't think of any brand name which is even remotely like An hgre, An
ngre, Ah hgre,
First thing I thought of seeing this was Anchor. But the finest
Anchor thread I know of would be No. 80, not 230.
Best, Achim.
2008/5/22 Brenda Paternoster [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello Patsy
I can't think of any brand name which is even remotely like An hgre, An
ngre, Ah hgre, Anngre or Anhgre.
Alice,
make sure that you could see lace in Brugge I know that in the museums
there take away from display the laces.
Do you have Amsterdam in your mind, there are also some places with
lace.
Greetings
Ilske
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Hello All,
CT-CTCT-CT-CTCT and the next row CTCT-CT- etc.)
some people here in Germany named this ground pearl-ground and others
regular wild ground. So it's up to you to find your name ;-))
Ilske
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Hello Tamara,
no there is no real
Is there a worker
and you sit and say always half stich - double half stich - half
stich- double half stich and so on and if you stop write down what
comes next. But after a while it works well and it looks lovely.
And is there a diagram?
If you
Annette,
Your wish is my command :-)
It's from:
Records of Later Life
Henry Holt Co.
1882
pp. 254-255
She was traveling in Europe in 1841 after spending some years in
America -- most recently with her husband on his plantation in the
South where she experienced slavery ...
I think all
Sister Claire has informed me that she is in Israel, as are the books. I
guess, in that case Israeli law is the law that covers this situation. Does
anyone know anything about Israeli copyright law?
(If everyone else knew this information, I apologize. I assumed she was in
Europe or the US.
I don't have any copyright answers, but your mentioning old literature
reminded me that you may not know abut the following website:
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html
Many lace books and pamphlets which are out of copyright have been scanned
in and put up on this site.
Here's what I found with a quick Google search. There's a link to a PDF.
http://blog.ipfactor.co.il/2008/05/05/new-israel-copyright-law-to-come-into-effect/
Sister Claire, where in Israel are you?
Avital
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Thanks Avital.
I'm in Jerusalem and we know each other. ;-)
Sr Claire
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Here's what I found with a quick Google search. There's a link to a PDF.
http://blog.ipfactor.co.il/2008/05/05/new-israel-copyright-law-to-come-into-effect/
P.S. I haven't been following this thread but if it's about duration
of copyright, it's author's death + 70 years.
Avital
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Sister Claire has informed me that she is in Israel, as are the books. I
guess, in that case Israeli law is the law
My daughter has changed the layout of my website and she has put a new simple
pattern in the Pattern Gallery. Take a look and if you have any problems let
her know at the link provided.
Janice
Would you send this out to your usual publicity outlets, please?
The ground is also in Viele Gute Gruende III, almost in the back: D4.1 she
calls it Schammgrund. It looks quite regular.
Some other eamples
http://www.lokk.nl/kbarchief/kb12007/kb1a02%20met%20kleur.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/GrannyLaurin/omenominkoperkleur.jpg
Jo
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Her sentiments do her credit, but the irony is that the machine lace (and
fabrics) that replaced the hand industries didn't improve the lot of the
workers. If anything, it made it worse. The factories were dangerous in
many ways, and the labor was brutal and constant. And I'm reminded of
It is regular and that's logical. In other wild grounds if you make tc
tctc tct tc tct or something like this it is very wild. In my opinion
often too wild.
calls it Schammgrund
What does Schamm- or is it Schwamm- mean. It's not a German word
Ilske
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I find these grounds take an awful lot of concentration to make - and I
liked Martina's idea of making a note if you got interrupted!! I usually end
up undoing the row!
Sue
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Also, hand lacemaking was actually considered to be somewhat more enjoyable
than other forms of employment offered women at the time, as witnessed by the
tales of wealthy women urging their friends not to buy lace during times when
it was hard to get domestic help. The idea was that the
Hi,
today it is a holiday in Bavaria. So I had a go with the wild ground. I tried
the regular one I
described in an earlier mail, but I am using only every 2nd pin, to make it
more loose and to
get a good contrast to the mane, which is done in half stitches only.
Thank you for all your
I fly in and out of Amsterdam, and will have several days at the end of my trip
to explore Amsterdam. The tours of OIDFA will quite thoroughly explore
northern Netherlands with lace each day. When I arrive, I'll go south to
Rotterdam and Brussels, wend my way to Bayeux, France, then across
While in Normandy, you might also want to go to Alencon (needle lace) and
Argentan - assuming there are still lace museums in either place. Also
there's an interesting linen museum somewhere in the area between Bruges and
Calais, but I can't remember it;s name. Maybe some of our French friends
There is a book by Mick Fouriscot called La Route des Dentelles Normandes
which covers several lace places between Bayeux and Paris.such as Alencon,
Argentan, Caen and Courseulles. I take issue with the statement that you have
to
visit Cathedrals in France because you can't find much lace.
Hi All-
Some time ago there was a very interesting discussion about bobbin lace
jewelry. Somebody pointed out the most beautiful bobbin lace colliers made in
sterling silver (I think). Another person pointed out a book published by
Ladies in Lithuania. Unfortunately I lost all this information
I have been playing with the demo program of Lace R-XP and after reading all
the features it seems to have answered my previous question as to whether you
can export to Word, plus I think you can print with larger dots which will be
wonderful when printing a pattern for someone with poor
You could learn to make wire bobbin lace yourself, in sterling or other-
actually the entire question of silver content is very complicated- at the IOLI
Convention in Rockford, Ill, early August, from Susan Lambiris. Meantime
check out _http://home.earthlink.net/~slambiris/_
Following Bev's lead I have just scanned all the pieces of BL I have
which are made with variegated thread and uploaded them to
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/variegated/variegated.htm
Also a list of colour repeat lengths for the threads I have.
Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
calls it Schammgrund
What does Schwamm- mean.
Schwamm is close to a dutch word for muschroom, or perheaps what grows on
fruit and vegetables when you keep it too long. I'm too lazy to get a
dictionary.
Jo
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calls it Schammgrund
What does Schwamm- mean.
Schwamm is close to a dutch
Here are several links to get you started:
http://home.earthlink.net/~slambiris/
http://www.lacedaisypress.com.au/rosegallery.html
http://www.lenkas.com/
http://www.ideaship.com/CAA/contacts_artists/lievejerger.html
Susan is offering a class at the IOLI convention this year in Illionois.
She
Yes Janice - larger dots are an option.In fact, the dots in Lace 2000
were scaled according to the size of the printout...in Lace R-XP they are
still scaled, but in addition, you can choose whether you want them bigger
than the default scaling.
The smallest size, which is the default setting,
The linen museum near Bruges (also near a university) has a wonderful modern
lace gallery - the gallery is modern, the lace is traditional and very varied.
That is well worth a visit.
Patricia in Wales
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On May 22, 2008, at 12:57, J. Falkink wrote:
The ground is also in Viele Gute Gruende III, almost in the back:
D4.1
Many thanks, Jo; *now* all is clear as a bell.
she calls it Schammgrund.
Schwammgrund. My dictionary has several translations for the word
Schwamm, but the first one is
Thanks so much Sue for the full citation, I really appreciate this.
Looks like I am about to embark on yet another tangent. Life is never dull!
I am preparing some short talks for a National Trust group in my town and
this quote and the comments this has brought out from others add some
On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:26:30 -0400, Tamara wrote:
Like Alice, I don't think I've ever come accross it but, also like
Alice, I'm intrigued by it. But I cannot, quite visualise it... Is it a
kind of lattice, with alternating short (CT) and long (CTCT)
planks, which are then reversed in the next
On Thu, 22 May 2008 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT), Alice wrote:
There's a textile museum in Heidelberg that might have some lace.
The Max Berk museum is 2-3 km from the centre of Heidelberg, a short bus
ride along the river out of town. The museum is in two buildings, one
housing a permanent collection
Dear all -- My niece, who is a jeweler (polishedandputtogether.com)
tells me that there is a most exciting jewelry-making technique in
which gold or silver is broken down into minuscule bits and mixed
with a special clay, giving the mixture somewhat the texture and
flexibility of cord. This
I believe that Lenka left someone
else in charge of her classes in Canada
That someone is Jay ... Rudolph? I think that's her last name. She
taught at IOLI in Montreal and I think at Ithaca. If anyone wants her
e-mail I can provide it. Just email me off list.
Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west
I think this might be called PMC, which stands for precious metal clay. I
met someone in a metal weaving class who makes jewelry this way.
Kim
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Thanks for all the ideas so far. The Carolus Borromeus Church in (or near)
Antwerp has the lace room open only on Wednesday. i finally found it on the
net -- a couple hours in the morning, and 2-4 in the afternoon. If I went
there directly from the airport, I could just make it for the last
Take a look at my website. There are several pieces of jewelry on it that I
made from silver. Most of it is in fine silver, with a sterling edge wire.
Fine doesn't tarnish as fast but it's also not as springy so it loses its
shape easily. The finest wire I've worked with is 32 gauge.
I'd like
Hi Ruth -
Could you be more specific about the problems running Lace R-XP on the Toshiba?
I have a Toshiba laptop on which I've run Lace 2000 for a few years, and had
no problem. So when I decided to get a new laptop, I got another Toshiba -
about a week before you mentioned that there were
Hello Clay,
The problems with the Toshiba laptops appear to be occurring only with those
running Vista, and concern the display of the background dots in both Lace
2000 and Lace R-XP.
I now know of three ladies running Vista on a Toshiba laptop who don't get a
full screen of background dots -
There are 2 brands of this 'metal producing' clay: PMC is one and Art Clay
-?- is the other.
I have seen PMC worked and the finished pieces. It is not something one can
do 'at home' as it must be fired at temps only attainable in special kilns.
Those who have learned to use it can do wonderful
Yes, the need for a kiln is a problem.
Also at least when I worked with PMC a couple of years ago, the drying time
was an issue. You needed to work very quickly as the clay dried out very
fast, and became unworkable. Maybe they've improved it.
I found that if the work was too fine, the
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