Re: [lace] Looking for a source of netting for embroidery

[Clay Blackwell]

Do you have a color preference? 

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> On Mar 18, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Penelope Piip  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am searching for a source of netting (6 squares to the inch) for embroidery.
> 
> I found www.filetlace.net but unfortunately the website has closed down from 
> 29th February until September.
> 
> Does anyone know where I might find some, or have a piece that I could buy 
> from them?
> 
> Otherwise I might have to make my own.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Penelope
> 
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Re: [lace] Lassen question

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Lassen is a technique for joining fine lace.  It is done with very fine thread 
which is used to wrap small bundles invisibly.  

Corner work is continuous.  It doesn't require the finer thread.  

I'm frustrated that I can't remember more!  I also can't find my copy of "Het 
Lassen", which covers the technique and applications quite well, assuming you 
can muddle through translating!

Clay

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> On Jun 16, 2019, at 11:03 AM, Devon Thein  wrote:
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> Add this to the list of things I should be looking for when I look at lace
> in the museum! This is something I never thought of before. I had a quick
> look through my photos and I couldn't find an example of lassen, although I
> have been taught how to do the technique in several classes. It would be
> interesting to see if someone has a historical piece that has lassen on it,
> and then we could assess whether it is true that the thread used was six
> times finer. One random thought that crosses my mind, based on nothing, is
> whether lassen is a relatively recent development dating from the need to
> match when doing a square handkerchief edging with corners.
> Devon
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Re: [lace] 25 years on Arachne

[Clay Blackwell]

I think the t was earlier than 1998.  I discovered lacemaking that year, and I 
believe Arachne had been active for a year or two before that!  But regardless, 
if Arachne had not been there, I never would have gotten so hooked!

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> On Apr 28, 2019, at 3:07 AM, Ilske Thomsen  
> wrote:
> 
> I am sure it was before 2000.  Was it 1997 or 98 or 99 I am unable to 
> remember exactly and all those people who could give a clue aren’t any longer 
> with me. Anyway  I am a longstanding member too and I must add arachne helped 
> me to practise my English.
> 
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Re: [lace] Thomas Lester by Anne Buck

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Susan!

Thanks for the book review.

I am going to take this opportunity to disagree with the source of your quote 
regarding  their 
assessment of Torchon.  Actually, I believe that like any other lace style, 
Torchon is quite lovely when used by talented designers, and worked by 
sensitive lace makers who appreciate the scale of the lace and the nuances of 
various thread sizes.

Not only is it attractive when worked well, it provides a new lacemaker with a 
long range of skills which can be adapted to more complicated laces. 

Clay


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> On Apr 1, 2019, at 4:13 PM, Susan  wrote:
> 
> Since I just finished reading the book, I wanted to recommend it & quote:
> 
> “Mrs Armstrong, born in 1860 at Thurleigh, said (1943) that in her prime she 
> could work about a yard & a half of Bedfordshire Maltese border, one & one 
> half inches wide in two days. For this, Lester would pay her 1s 6d a yard so 
> that for a full weeks work she might earn 6 or 7 shillings.”
> 
> I had to look up to see what 1s 6d is—thank you Google. Aside from the 
> income, however, I can’t imagine making that much lace in that amount of 
> time! Talk about flying fingers...
> 
> Had to chuckle at another quote:  “Torchon, an unsophisticated lace of 
> repetitive geometric patterns based on diagonals with a heavy, five hole 
> mesh...”  Most of you know that Torchon is not my favorite & AB managed to 
> capture my sentiments in a nutshell. Sincerely, Susan Hottle FL USA 
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Re: [lace] Flickr account for photos

[Clay Blackwell]

I am so sorry for all of the confusion about the funding of our Flickr account! 
 I simply misread something and jumped to the wrong conclusion!

So please.  Do not try to set up an account to reimburse me!  The cost is 
really not an issue for me, because it is very small.  (Less than $20 a year)

What IS important to me is that you do not use our lace Flickr account as 
personal storage for every picture you have.  It is easy enough to set up your 
own account if that is what you need.And unless you overload your own 
account, it is free.  But please do use the Arachne account to highlight WIPs 
and remove (your own) old pictures as new ones are created!

Happy Lacemaking!

Clay



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> On Jan 17, 2019, at 1:42 AM, Gabriele Patzner  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> 
> like Susan (and I suppose many more) I wasn’t aware that cost for hosting the 
> pics was carried by a single member. 
> 
> Thank you, Clay. 
> 
> I guess you had first offers of reimbursement and I would add mine to that. I 
> just need to know who is able and willing to collect. If I give five dollars 
> only 19 others need to do so and we financed a whole year on flickr for 
> instance. 
> 
> Sending money to the other end of the world is really no problem with 
> services like paypal existing. BTW: For making single payments paypal can be 
> used without opening an account.
> 
> I suggest this because while for some the pruning of the archive is a valid 
> idea - and maybe some photos really are put up only to illustrate a current 
> discussion - others cherish the idea of having an archive.
> 
> And I suggest this because there are people working for flickr and those need 
> to make a living and someone needs to pay for that. Server hosting does 
> generate costs for machines, housing, and electricity, too. Let’s be aware of 
> that and use it conciously. We are many, surely we can pay for a service that 
> serves us well?
> 
> But as I understood this, this is not the only problem. There is the 
> collecting and billing needing to be handled, and also the work on the 
> account to be done. If there are no volunteers for that, then the only option 
> is for everyone to get their very own flickr accounts (or whatever) and host 
> their own photos - for free - and put up a link to it in their signatures.
> 
> Greetings, Gabriele
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Re: [lace] Alice Howell hacked?

[Clay Blackwell]

Has anyone actually tried to call Alice on the phone?!  Or perhaps other 
Arachnids in the NW would have more info...

Clay

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> On Jan 16, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Devon Thein  wrote:
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> I am wondering if these messages from Alice Howell asking  the list,
> as though a single person,  to buy a gift card are evidence that she
> has been hacked. I am not sure how to ask her because the email
> address is actually the email address I have for her.
> Devon
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Re: [lace] Most difficult lace

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Yes, I agree?

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> On May 21, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Lbuyred  wrote:
> 
> I think my vote would go to Mechlin as the most difficult lace.  It is not 
> too bad if you use pins in the ground.  But I find it almost impossible to 
> control without the pins.
> 
> I make Binche lace pretty regularly.  You do have to watch the diagram 
> carefully for the designs done in the last 20 or 30 years.  I am guessing the 
> ladies who made yards of Binche back 100 years ago or more had the designs in 
> their heads.  Then the challenging part would be to create a lace with an 
> even tension without using support pins which take extra time to put in and 
> would reduce your speed.
> Liz R, Raleigh NC
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[lace] Anny’s patterns

[Clay Blackwell]

Several of Anny’s friends and students have been helping her family sell the 
remaining books and patterns which were in stashes all over the world!  I have 
just a few left and would love for them to find good homes.

Please check the list and let me know if you would like a picture of any of 
them.

“Virginia”. (A Cardinal on flowering Dogwood)
“Haspengouw”. (Interesting book marker with fruits)
“Etta J’sButterfly”
“Winter Fairy” (One of my favorites... I’ve made it several times,)
“DC’sCherry Blossoms”

Clay

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Virginia, USA

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Re: [lace] defining lace

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There are
> On Apr 5, 2018, at 9:20 AM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
>
> snip...
> This made me wonder if is possible for Devon to include any historical
display
> boards with photos of early needle and bobbin lace (in white)  and the
> colourful braids from which the bobbin lace evolved and the very colourful
> raised embroidery (stumpwork) being done in the mid-1600s.

> Sue, there are two excellent books that do just that!  The first is Lace - a
History  by Santina Levey.  The other is Trois Siecles de Dentelles, compiled
by the Museum of Art and History in Brussels.

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[lace] Block pillows

[Clay Blackwell]

I have two block pillows.  I like them both, but the creme de la creme is 
definitely the one I just got from “Blue Water and Glass” in Florida.  The 
frame is beautifully made with custom inlays, and the felt he uses for the 
blocks is firm, but the pins glide in like butter!  I highly recommend!  

bluewaterwoodandgl...@hotmail.com

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Lynchburg, VA

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Re: [lace] bobbin

[Clay Blackwell]

When bobbins are turned on wood or bone that has not been cured (ie., allowed 
to dry completely), the drying process continues and warping can result.  
That’s because unless a bobbin comes from dead center of a branch, there will 
be more concentric rings on one side than the other.



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> On Mar 15, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Jill Hawkins  wrote:
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> Hi Alex
> 
> While I cannot provide any insight into the bobbin, I was intrigued to
> notice that it appears to have a slight bend in it. I have quite a few
> bobbins (both bone and wood) that exhibit the same phenomenon. I have
> been unable to explain why this is. Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jill
> 
> In grey and cloudy southern Connecticut, USA
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Re: [lace] Washington Monument lace by Anny?

[Clay Blackwell]

The last time Anny was in the US, she left all of the patterns she had with me. 
 I sold a lot of them and was able to send her the funds.  I still have a few 
patterns and folders left, so if anyone wants something, I can send the money 
to her family.

Clay

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> On Jan 4, 2018, at 6:53 AM, Susan  wrote:
> 
> Good Morning Liz?  Would it be possible to post a photo to Arachne Flickr?  
> I’ve not seen this lace & others may be interested as well.  BTW—I love the 
> red, white & blue piece in your album!  It reminds me a bit of a Pennsylvania 
> Dutch hex sign, the motif that often appears on the ends of barns in many 
> places in PA & Ohio.  If I’ve gone off the rails & mis-identified the 
> inspiration for your pattern, please accept my apology—I was searching for 
> the Monument!  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
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[lace] Vintage Christmas Ornaments | Christmas Tree Trimmings

[Clay Blackwell]

I believe that when companies start mimicking our hand-made lace ornaments and 
selling to the public, we can definitely say that our work has been noticed and 
is in demand, even if it is machine made!  I take it as a good sign! 

https://www.vermontcountrystore.com/christmas-shop/category/ornaments

Clay

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Re: [lace] Joining ends of a crown

[Clay Blackwell]

I have found that setting up "magic threads" in the beginning allows you to 
make a very clean and nearly invisible join at the end.

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA

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> 
> The joins will be mostly cloth stitch areas.
> 
> The picture of the finished crown can be seen in Knypplerskan by Inga-Lisa
> Olsson, Vol. 3.
> 
> Thanks for taking an interest!
> Sally

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Re: [lace] Lace Group scam -- warning

[Clay Blackwell]

Woah!  Thanks for the warning!

Clay

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> On Oct 5, 2017, at 11:13 AM, "lacel...@frontier.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> This just happened to my lace group in the USA.
> My treasurer received an email from "me" requesting a check mailed
> immediately.  When questioned, the scammer said it was for supplies for PLS
> from a vendor.  Send the check to Ann Carpenter in Reno, Nevada.  It was
> over $1000.
> 
> A couple emails later, my treasurer changed the subject line on an email and
> it came to me instead of the scammer.  My reply of puzzlement let my
> treasurer take action before damage was done.  The whole bank account was
> closed and will be reopened today with a new number.  Also, she's filing a
> police report with name and address of scammer, plus info that the mailed
> check would be delivered Friday. 
> 
> I don't think my computer was hacked.  I think someone researched lace groups
> and pulled out the president and treasurer's emails and group name.  Be sure
> you have procedures set up to verify billings to your lace group before
> sending checks.  This could happen to any organizaation.
> Alice in Oregon
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Re: [lace] Pictures added to Flickr.

[Clay Blackwell]

The Arachne photo page is a site I established several years ago on Flickr for 
sharing photos which we are unable to do on Arachne itself.  While it is 
possible to have a free Flickr page, I opted for an unlimited page which I pay 
for on a quarterly basis.  When you post pictures on this site, you post to 
your "set" of pictures on the Arachne site.  Technically, it is "my" Flickr 
page

I am delighted to see that we have nearly 100 lacemakers posting sets on 
Flickr!   The vast majority of sets contain fewer than 10 pictures, while a few 
have over 100 pictures.  Of course, we also have our card and ornament 
exchanges as well!   

This might be a good time to start the conversation about how to maintain the 
site should anything happen to prevent me from continuing.

Clay

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> On Aug 20, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Diana Smith <diana.trevo...@btinternet.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I've added two pictures to my Flickr page. One is a small sample lace piece, 
> from the same collection as the Old Ripon, a pretty edging with an unusual 
> ground.
> 
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Re: [lace] mold on a velvet covered roller pillow

[Clay Blackwell]

The first thing I would do is vacuum it using a attachment with a brush that 
you can brush the velvet.  I would repeat this every few days, noting whether 
the spots reappear.  I would also thoroughly vacuum the brush after each use!  
Are you able to detect a musty odor?  In that case, you may want to spray a 
cloth with mildew cleaner and place in a closed box with the pillow.  Be 
careful not to let this cloth touch the pillow.  It took a while for the 
problem to develop, so it may take a while to rehabilitate your pillow.  But 
with some TLC, I think you can save it.

Let us know how it goes!

Clay
Clay Blackwell in Lynchburg, VA, USA

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> 
> Hi there, this is my first posting and it's an emergency
> i'm just starting to get back into lace after a long break and to my horror 
> when i went to unpack my favourite roller pillow from it's what i believed to 
> be safe and secure storage, i was horrified to see it covered in white spots 
> of mold! i believe at some point in its storage it had been moved and its 
> waterproof crate lid left askew letting damp in. nothing else in the box 
> appeared to have been affected.
> it's wood dust filled and covered in a dark velvet fabric, the mold brushed 
> off easily, leaving only a few slight marks on the roller itself but because 
> mold is so hard to get rid of completely i'm rather wary and don't really 
> know how to clean it if it can be saved at all and being effectivly bed bound 
> i also have to be careful its clean as i'd be using it sat up in bed and it 
> would be a rather big problem bringing that into my rather confined living 
> quarters.
> 
> does anyone have any ideas on what if anything can be done to save it? i'd be 
> very grateful for any advice or guidence that could help as right now i'm a 
> bit stumped and quite angry at myself for letting such a thing happen in the 
> first place!
> 
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Re: [lace] pins for wire lace

[Clay Blackwell]

I have several boxes, and I am fairly certain I hit them at my local quilt shop!

Clay

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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:12 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Quick update--I have asked a friend in the quilting/notions supply business 
> about the Bohin #4 30x0.85 pins that Lauran recommended to see if she can get 
> them.  If anyone is interested, please contact me off list.  Sincerely, Susan 
> Hottle 

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Re: [lace] Winding bobbins with a string

[Clay Blackwell]

I think that the direction we wind our bobbins is determined by the "S" or "Z" 
twist of the thread, not by the type of bobbins being used.

Clay

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> On Jul 12, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Malvary Cole  wrote:
> 
> Susan wrote  --how does this work with Idrija bobbins where we are winding 
> anti-clockwise?
> 
> My question - why do you have to wind them anti-clockwise.  I do Idrija all 
> the time and wind them exactly the same as I wind all my bobbins.  If you 
> suddenly switch direction of the way you wind, you might have difficulties in 
> getting used to lengthening and shortening your threads when you are trying 
> to learn as much as you can in the few hours you have available.
> 
> Malvary in Ottawa where we have had enough rain for this summer.  No lawn 
> bowling because the greens were flooded. 
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Re: [lace] How to wind bobbins usig just a string

[Clay Blackwell]

Thank you Agnes!  I saw this done at a convention years ago, but did not 
remember what she did!  This is great when you just need to wind one or two 
bobbins and don't want to drag out the bobbin winder!

Clay

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> Yesterday I made a short video on how to wind bobbins using just a piece of
> string. B It's up on YouTube.B 
> https://youtu.be/hdbk3mHS2Us
> Enjoy!
> PegIn a rainy Cleveland, B Ohio
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Re: [lace] Conneaut, Ohio lace exhibit

[Clay Blackwell]

Good job, Susan!  Congratulations!

Clay

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> On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:01 AM, Susan  wrote:
> 
> WHEW--it is up!  A bit more grade school bulletin board-ish than I had 
> intended but up nonetheless.  The library closed yesterday at 7pm so there 
> were a few items that didn't get hung before the doors were locked.  I plan 
> to go back & make some finishing touches, but Conneaut is about 45 minutes 
> one way so it's not a quick visit.  It takes a village & our Arachne village 
> was a huge help in this endeavor.  Many thanks again to everyone who donated 
> materials, technical support for samples, suggestions & well wishes.  Photos 
> are now posted to Arachne Flickr.  The newspaper reporter stopped by & the 
> librarian is creating a display of lace books in their collection so things 
> are looking up.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
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Re: [lace] "age spots"

[Clay Blackwell]

Over the years, I have read numerous articles addressing this issue.  There are 
two "sub categories" IMHO, old collected lace and modern lace owned by the 
maker which has acquired the off-colors.

The causes that seem most plausible to me are...

Old laces have been infamously exposed to conditions which leech off-gasses 
which cause discoloration to the natural fibers.  Sadly, the people who caused 
the discoloration were acting in good faith that their "New and improved" 
background paper was Lace friendly!  

The second great offender is human handling!  Unfortunately, when laces have 
been handled, but not protected, they tend to end up with blotches of ugly 
off-color.  Today, if you are allowed to handle a piece of lace in a museum, 
you must wear carefully laundered Cotten gloves so the natural oils in your 
skin do not transfer to the lace.

I have been mounting my own samples and the old ones I have bought on acid free 
paper.  This tends to stabilize the changes.

Clay



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> On Jun 28, 2017, at 8:45 AM, N.A. Neff  wrote:
> 
> Hello fellow spiders,
> 
> Could someone explain to me what causes "age spots" on lace? the brown
> spots?
> 
> What is the actual chemical basis for them?
> 
> Can they be removed? (I've been too chicken to try anything.)
> 
> Can future ones be prevented from developing?
> 
> Any other information I should be asking for?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Nancy
> Connecticut, USA
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Re: [lace] Photos of my lace stand

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Agnes!

I am so impressed with your pillow stand!  It is certainly travel-friendly and
the custom platform can be tucked into the same bag as the lace pillow!

I do have one question.  It looks like you have put the grip for adjusting the
head to be protruding under the pillow directly toward the lacemaker.  Does it
get in the way?  Or would it have been harder to find had it been on one side
or the other under the pillow.  Just curious!!

I would be very interested in your printed instructions!  Thanks for sharing.

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, Virginia, USA


> On May 14, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Agnes Boddington
<ag...@weatherwax.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I do have the instructions on paper, but can take pictures of those and
send
> them, if interested.
>
> Or I could put the photos on Pinterest.
>
> Mike made one modification: 2 extra bars with "stops" for the pillow so it
> does not slide of.
>
> We are quite an inventive lot though, and come up with our own
> solutions/adaptations.
>
> Agnes Boddington
>
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Re: [lace] A Collectors Guide to Lace Bobbins. Now ready! and Question for you!!!

[Clay Blackwell]

I agree that this is the perfect home for the Collectors Guide to Lace Bobbins! 
 

Clay

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> On May 6, 2017, at 4:45 AM, Jay Ekers  wrote:
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> You have had some articles published on the 'Arizona archives',
> https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/  
> 
> Is this not suitable, or doesn't reach a wide enough audience?
> 
> Jay in Sydney.
> 
> From: owner-l...@arachne.com On Behalf Of Brian Lemin
> 
> Summary.
> 
> I am looking for a reputable "lace" based web site that would care for "my"
> publication (Please remember the generosity of the Diana Smith Collection)
> and be available for all web users  and bobbin collectors to consult.

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Re: [lace] Lier Lace??

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Mary,

The short answer is that it is lace embroidered on mesh or net.  It is a lovely 
lace.  Other answers have provided links.

Clay

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> On Apr 27, 2017, at 7:43 PM, mary carey  wrote:
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> Hi All,
> 
> 
> Could someone please explain to this uneducated Lacemaker what Lier is?  It is
> a name I have not heard before.
> 
> 
> MaryCarey
> 
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Re: [lace] Re: Convention-public day

[Clay Blackwell]

That has always been my understanding as well.  Thank you Anita, for pointing 
that out.

Clay

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> On Apr 21, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Anita Hansen  wrote:
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> I haven't found the words with the exact policy for this year, but in the 
> past the vending and display rooms have usuall been open FREE to the public 
> on Wednesday. The mini-registration fee usually is only necessary if signing 
> up for a class on that day.
> Anita Hansen
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Re: [lace] Anniversary ideas for a small guild?

[Clay Blackwell]

Martha, I agree with Sue, and our regional guild often uses Chris Parsons (UK), 
who can provide a painted bobbin based on your picture, or Richard Worthen(US) 
for hand-turned and pyrographed bobbins.  

Clay

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> On Apr 10, 2017, at 1:28 PM, Sue Harvey  wrote:
> 
> Hello Martha,
> We celebrate in several ways but the one I like is to have a commerative 
> bobbin with name and date, we have had our Coral anniversary that we 
> celebrated that way.
> Sue Harvey
> Norfolk 
> UK 
> 
> 
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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr

[Clay Blackwell]

I know this sounds like I have "lost it", but is anyone else (besides Susan?) 
having problems with their internet connection?

I can't get online any more (but if you're seeing this, apparently I can get 
out  as did Susan. )

If any of you has an idea about how to help someone fix this problem, please 
reply to us *privately*, so whatever the damage is... does not spread.!

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>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 3:59 PM,   
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else having difficulty signing in?  I'm getting an "invalid 
>>> password. Please try again later" notice.  Will try again later if it's 
>>> working for others.  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA

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[lace] Checking in...

[Clay Blackwell]

While my email service seems to be intact, since the last update to Apple iOS 
the other functions of the system seem to have gone on hiatus.  Has anyone else 
experienced this, or is it just my local service?

FYI, I took it to my local service provider, and the person had no clue.  I had 
handed her my iPhone, and she pretty much made it worse.  So glad I didn't give 
her the iPad!  Furthermore, my MacBook Pro seems to be unaffected!  Any ideas?





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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr

[Clay Blackwell]

P.s.  The icon that linked to Arachne looks line a "head and shoulders" icon.

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> On Feb 18, 2017, at 5:17 PM, Clay Blackwell <clayblackw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Susan,
> 
> I went in by clicking on the Arachne link at the bottom of your email.  What 
> popped up were pictures of extreme sports.  I had a vertical menu beside the 
> pictures, and scrolled down to a link farther down which brought up Arachne.  
> 
> Hope this helps!
> 
> Clay
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Feb 18, 2017, at 3:59 PM, <hottl...@neo.rr.com> <hottl...@neo.rr.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is anyone else having difficulty signing in?  I'm getting an "invalid 
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>> working for others.  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Susan,

I went in by clicking on the Arachne link at the bottom of your email.  What 
popped up were pictures of extreme sports.  I had a vertical menu beside the 
pictures, and scrolled down to a link farther down which brought up Arachne.  

Hope this helps!

Clay

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> wrote:
> 
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Re: [lace] Lappets versus collars and cuffs

[Clay Blackwell]

The most compelling argument that I can think of is that the history of lace 
had been traced back to the very early years after the dark ages, when totally 
dark clothing began to be lightened with white linen cuffs and collars, 
which...  over time...  began to be embroidered.  This eventually transitioned 
to embroidery with cut-outs, until finally someone realized how much expensive 
linen was being wasted, and that began the development of lace, as we know it.  
I believe that lappets are a later fashion development which happened to employ 
lace.

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA. USA

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> On Feb 8, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Nancy Neff <nancy.a.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may also be of interest to note that lace collars and cuffs were during
> much of their history worn by men as well as, or at times instead of,
> women, whereas lappets were worn only by women.
> 
> Nancy
> Connecticut, USA
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Fwd: [lace] lily lappet - pattern?

[Clay Blackwell]

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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Clay Blackwell <clayblackw...@comcast.net>
> Date: February 7, 2017 at 7:25:56 PM EST
> To: devonth...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [lace] lily lappet  - pattern?
>
> During all of my years in making lace...  mostly from reconstructions...  I
can say without a doubt that the "usefulness" of a piece has never been a
consideration.  I approach each piece from one of two perspectives:  on the
one hand, I will learn techniques which are relevant to the period, or...  I
will be exposed to an entirely new type of lace.
>
> So no, I don't need a lappet, whether or not it fits anyone's ideal of how a
lappet should look.  Instead, I am drawn to the design of this piece from a
"stand-alone perspective" and would enjoy the challenge to reconstruct it.
And...  if I finish it, I will have to decide whether it is framed as a piece
to visually enjoy, or instead should go into my album of finished studies.
>
> Clay Blackwell
> Lynchburg, VA, USA
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 7, 2017, at 12:15 PM, <devonth...@gmail.com> <devonth...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Dear Sue,
>> Far be it for me to question any challenging lace project. But, I am a
little
>> curious about why you need a lappet. Also, it seems to me that as lappets
go,
>> this one does not really fit the bill because it is not long and, shall I
say,
>> lappet shaped.
>> I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but if you were thinking of going
>> about in impressive cap streamers, this will probably be a disappointment.
You
>> may have to use it as a purse ornament or something. 😊
>> Devon

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Re: [lace] Support pin in Binche cloth areas

[Clay Blackwell]

I use support pins in Binche Lace primarily at take-ins and take-outs, 
especially where the work is in half-stitch.  Without the support pin, the 
worker thread tends to pull the passives away from the edge, leaving an 
undesirable hole.  I use the finest insect pins I can find, and put a dot of 
red nail polish on the heads of the these pins so that once I have gotten 
beyond that area I can take them out.  I also learned about support pins from 
Ulrike, way back when I had only been making Lace for about a year!  

Clay

> On Feb 5, 2017, at 2:04 AM, Julie Shalack  wrote:
> 
> I just finished my third or fourth Flanders exercise without support pins and 
> I am not really happy with the cloth areas.  I also remember years ago Ulrike 
> Voelker being very emphatic about using support pins in Mechlin cloth.

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Re: [lace] Support pin in Binche cloth areas

[Clay Blackwell]

Perfect!  This is my system as well!  My own addition to this is a pin that 
indicates a temporary pin!  I use insect pins for this, and paint their tops 
with a touch of ail polish!

However you learn this, it is a crucial technique for advanced laces!

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> On Feb 4, 2017, at 3:33 PM, "lacel...@frontier.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> Back in my beginning days, a teacher told me to use temporary support pins 
> any time it helped me out.  I use them a lot.  I tend to use the long 
> yellow-headed pins as temporary pins so they stand up among the gaggle of 
> pins on the pillow, and I pull them out when they are 3-4 rows back.  They 
> don't stay in long enough for the pinhole to get set.  If I intend to leave 
> the extra pin in, I'll use a normal pin.  The pins are just there to control 
> and herd the threads into position.  When you have a cantankerous thread, you 
> have to give it extra help.  When a thread changes direction, a pin is most 
> helpful in keeping everything in order.
> 
> Alice in Oregon (where winter keeps going on -- freezing rain yesterday and 
> snow tomorrow)
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[lace] Unexpected addition to my emails!

[Clay Blackwell]

I sent a message to a friend today which had an attachment of a picture I had
taken recently, and beneath my message was the following,.


Happy Birthday, Jessica!

Duis nonsequ ismodol oreetuer iril dolore facidunt, vulluptat mani volore
consecte dolesed dolor se feum velit ver adionse magnisc illandi gniamet,
accummo loboreet ad magna conummy non vel ipitet.

Best Wishes,
Aunt Cathy


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Re: [lace] Lace on my window

[Clay Blackwell]

Beautiful!

Clay
Virginia, USA

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Fwd: [lace] Jean and David Leader

[Clay Blackwell]

Yay!  Good news!

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> From: Jean Leader <j...@jeanleader.net>
> Date: January 19, 2017 at 4:23:13 PM EST
> To: Clay Blackwell <clayblackw...@comcast.net>
> Cc: lace@arachne.com
> Subject: Re: [lace] Jean and David Leader
>
> Dear Clay,
> Thank you for your concern. We are skiing in the Alps where there's no
problem with earthquakes.
> Unfortunately it's the mountainous southern region of Italy which is an
earthquake zone - there are two faults there and they are both moving. This
latest quake has been made even worse by snow and the current extreme cold
weather.
> Jean
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 19 Jan 2017, at 21:32, Clay Blackwell <clayblackw...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>>
>> "I noticed on Arachne that Jean and David Leader are skiing in Italy. I
read that an avalanche in Italy buried a hotel."
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[lace] Jean and David Leader

[Clay Blackwell]

"I noticed on Arachne that Jean and David Leader are skiing in Italy. I read 
that an avalanche in Italy buried a hotel."

A friend who is not on the list (but reads the digest...) sent me this, and 
since it has not been mentioned on Arachne, can anyone who knows anything about 
this let us know?  Naturally we hope they are safe!

Clay

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Re: [lace] Christmas Lace Star has now been mounted

[Clay Blackwell]

Sorry!I was so focused on trimming the last post that Iit the wrong button 
and didn't say what I wanted to say!

Sue, it is stunning!  I love the simplicity of the frame.  How will you display 
this?

Clay

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> On Jan 5, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/

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Re: [lace] Christmas Lace Star has now been mounted

[Clay Blackwell]

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> On Jan 5, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> It’s off the pillow and I am on the whole very pleased with it. It’s in a
> free-standing comet-shaped metal frame (also sold by the online shop where I
> got the pattern).  I laid it down on black velvet to get contrast for all the
> threads in it and have uploaded more photos to Flickr for anyone who is
> interested.
> 
> And for those who like to know such things the threads used were
> 1 spool each of linen 40/2.  Colors given below are for Moravia linen
> 
> 0011 pink/brown, 0012 deep red ,0016 purple, 0020 light blue, 0022, blue, 0034
> white, 0035 light yellow, 0037 mustard-yellow, 0038 orange / yellow, 0043
> flesh, 0045 cream, 0046 light yellow-brown, 0047 yellow-brown, 0048 brown,
> 0049 reddish brown, 0052 light sage green, 0053 light yellow-green, 0054 mid
> yellow-green, 0055 apple green, 0056 mushroom white ; Moravia gold 60/2;
> Shantung Yaspee SY_715, SY-723, Suri Alpaca 1001 white, clear nylon thread for
> mounting
> 
> 
> 
> and the time taken was 117 hours 15 minutes.
> 
> Sue
> 
> suebabbs...@gmail.com
> http://babbsandbaobabs.blogspot.com/
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Re: [lace] Russian tape lace

[Clay Blackwell]

Yes indeed!  In tight places they be used three or four times, if not more!

Clay

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> On Jan 5, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Susan  wrote:
> 
> Does this lace ever use a pivot pin?  Or are all turns made like regular tape 
> lace?  I've got a very tight curve.  Many thanks for any suggestions.  
> Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
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Re: [lace] no longer available

[Clay Blackwell]

Sylvie, could you maybe post a picture of some of these bobbins on Arachne's 
Flickr page?  A picture is worth a thousand words!  (See addy at the bottom of 
the page...

Clay

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> On Jan 4, 2017, at 5:37 PM, sylvie nguyen  wrote:
> 
> The continental bobbins, made by Neil Keats, are no longer available.
> 
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Re: [lace] Christmas Lace Star finished

[Clay Blackwell]

Beautiful!  I look forward to seeing it framed!

Clay

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> On Jan 2, 2017, at 6:59 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> A while back I saw a lace comet with a Christmas scene in it on Facebook, and
> knew I wanted to make it.  I finally started it in September and didn’t
> manage to get it finished before western Christmas (12/25) but have finished
> it before Orthodox Christmas !  I still have to mount it in its frame, but
> I’ve posted some photos of it on the pillow on Flickr.
> 
> The pattern is by Renate Richter, and was apparently published in the German
> ANNA magazine No. 11/2008, and is now available from
> http://www.kloeppelstube-zwoenitz.de/schweif-mit-christigeburt.html
> 
> I varied the colours from the original as I had the whole range of Moravia
> linen in the house already, and added in some Moravia gold thread too!
> 
> Sue
> 
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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Clay Blackwell]

Thank you Geri, for your kind words!

I am so grateful for Sue Babbs who has been able to preserve our Flickr page!
The fact is that I had a serious head injury about 18 months ago, and this has
impacted my ability to stay on top of things!  Fortunately, Sue has been able
to take the lead and keep us up and running!  So, yes, I will continue to
financially support the page, and hopefully Sue will continue to provide the
technical leadership we need!

Happy New Year everyone!

Clay

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>
> Isn't it wonderful how quickly lace makers respond to problems?  If only
everyone in the world got along this well!
>
> On behalf of all Arache members, a huge thank you to Clay for financially
supporting the Flickr page.  And, because we have seen so often that Sue has
been the go-to person when anyone has difficulty loading a photo on Flickr, a
huge thank you to her.
>
> Sometimes, members of Arachne do not know about individuals that make
Arachne possible.  This includes Liz who provides the server that Arachne is
on, and Avital who takes care of any "management" issues.  Thanks to you both,
also.
>
> Finally, thanks to those who participate by sharing and by answering
questions.  We need activity from everyone to keep Arachne interesting and
useful.
>
> A Happy Lacy New Year to All,
>
> Jeri Ames in Maine USA
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>
> > On Dec 30, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> >
> > Clay and I have now changed the password – email me personally if you
want
> > to know it, as we don’t want to put it on Arachne where it will end up
in
> > the archives for the whole world to find!
> >
> > Beth, I will send it to you in a separate email
> >
> Sue
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Re: [lace] Re: Arachne Flickr page

[Clay Blackwell]

The entire site appears differently on my iPad, but it looks as though now 
anyone can upload now...

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> On Dec 30, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> Clay and I have now changed the password – email me personally if you want
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> the archives for the whole world to find!
> 
> Beth, I will send it to you in a separate email
> 
> 
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Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr page

[Clay Blackwell]

Sue, I haven't been in for a while,but it sounds as if I need to change the 
password.  I'll do it tomorrow and let you know how it goes...

Clay

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> Hi Sue and everyone
> 
> Has anyone but me had difficulty logging into the arachne flickr page to 
> upload photos recently?
> I've just tried to add a picture of the lace I took off the pillow last 
> Christmas and finally finished mounting today, but although yahoo still 
> recognises the password below it then insists this needs to be changed 
> and won't let me in unless I invent a new password... I've tried 
> reconfirming the existing one but yahoo just complains that's too 
> similar to the existing password, so I've given up for the moment...
> 
> Beth
> 
> 
>> On 26/09/14 22:15, Sue Babbs wrote:
>> For future reference to upload photos to Flickr:
>>> 
>>> The REALLY important first part is to make sure you are logged in to 
>>> Yahoo (and thus Flickr) as arachne2003 - not yourself.SO logout as 
>>> yourself first, then log in to 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/ as arachne2003 , password 
>>> LaceMaker1
>>> 
>>> Note that the upper and lower cases must be as shown above.
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Re: [lace] Pincushions

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Sally,

Hope your Christmas has been grand!

Several years ago, I found a lovely large (4" diameter, but only about 1  - 2 " 
high) pincushion at JoAnn Fabrics which has stood the test of time, as well as 
providing plenty of room for lots of different kinds of pins!  The pincushion 
has sections which are in rainbow colors, so it is easy to categorize pins in 
their own sections...(dividers vs. temporary vs working, etc...)

I tend to focus on one pillow at a time, so this pincushion goes where I go!  
If you like to have several things going at a time, you may want to have more 
than one pincushion!

I haven't looked for them lately, so don't know if they are still available.

Happy New Year, and may your threads never break!

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> On Dec 26, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Sally Jenkins  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Can someone recommend some good pincushions to buy? Preferably in the U.S.
> I need to collect/make several beginner kits for teaching bobbin lace, and
> want the students to have good materials so their early experiences are
> positive.
> 
> I don't want cute. I want functional. Firm filling. Big enough to hold
> sufficient pins for a project. Able to be pinned onto the pillow. And I
> don't want to make these myself (though the best ones I have were all
> handmade by others).
> 
> The red tomatoes that are sold with sewing supplies do not have the quality
> that they did when I was young. They are actually too hard and stiff now.
> 
> Any help you can point me to will be appreciated. They do not all have to
> be alike.
> 
> Thank you,
> Sally in western Oregon, enjoying some rare winter sunshine
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Re: [lace] 2016 ornament exchange

[Clay Blackwell]

I hope our link has not been broken!

Received the  following from Susan, but have not gotten from other Arachne 
members!

I have gotten a short (and beautiful) question...  (see below)

My response and concern is that if you are not connected to the link 
immediately, don't follow unknown links!  Follow links from trusted Arachne 
members!

Happy Holidays to all!

Clay
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> On Dec 17, 2016, at 4:14 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Is the link broken?  I haven't been able to access the ornaments today.  Not 
> a techie here so I have no idea what I have done since I last visited the 
> site!  The link published on Arachne does not work for me.  When accessing 
> Jenny's site directly from Google, there is no category for the ornaments, 
> just 2016 bookmarks.  Will an expert please help?  Many thanks.  Sincerely, 
> Susan Hottle USA  
> 
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Re: [lace] IOLI Bulletin & Membership fees.

[Clay Blackwell]

I just received the summer issue today.  I am in Virginia...

Clay

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> On Oct 24, 2016, at 11:41 PM, Susan E Babbs  wrote:
> 
> Still not received the summer one.  I wish IOLI sent out routine reminders of 
> membership dues. I generally subscribe for two years at a time, and was very 
> grateful that, as the summer bulletin was late, they sent me an e-mail 
> extending the deadline for payment, as I had completely forgotten about it!
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Re: [lace] Linen thread

[Clay Blackwell]

I have seen many fine old Binche pieces in the German Lace Guild's museum, and 
the threads were extremely fine.  Even a tiny slub would have affected the 
quality of the lace!  In the old flax, not only were the fibers much finer, but 
they were also much longer, so that allowed fine threads which were also strong.

Many years ago, there was a fascinating lecture on the production of linen.  I 
would love to see that information published in the IOLI bulletin!

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> On Oct 17, 2016, at 4:12 AM, Kathleen Harris  wrote:
> 
> I have spun flax into linen thread, fine enough to make lace, but only just! 
> I made a small owl with it (Gill Dye's design?). I have discussed linen 
> thread with tutors from the Kantcentrum in Bruges. They told me that the old 
> varieties of flax, which were used to produce linen thread fine enough to 
> make, for instance, Binche lace, have been lost. Today's flax varieties just 
> do not have fine enough fibres. So the finest lace has to be made from 
> cotton! 
> 
> I wonder if there are slubs in old Binche lace - I have never looked, but it 
> should be possible to do so, maybe in museums in Belgium.
> 
> Kathleen
> Berkshire, UK
> 
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> 
>> On 16 Oct 2016, at 21:14, Adele Shaak  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Susan:
>> 
>> True story - in London the mid-1960s, linen manufacturers worked and worked 
>> to get the slubs (that’s what those big hunks of lint are called) out of the 
>> linen thread used to make fabric, because people wanted smooth linen for 
>> high-quality dressmaking. Then the 60s fashion revolution happened and 
>> designer Mary Quant headed the trend that convinced them to keep the slubs, 
>> for the texture.
>> 
>> Nothing to do with your 90/2 thread, of course, but an interesting story. 
>> 
>> Anyway, slubs have always been a part of linen thread. We’ve had a lot of 
>> discussions about linen thread over the years; you could probably find them 
>> in the archive. There are all sorts of twists and turns to the story (excuse 
>> the pun). Smooth threads in manufacturing are often achieved through cutting 
>> up the long flax fibre into very small pieces that are wet spun to achieve 
>> uniformity - but that takes away much of the strength of the fibre. Plus, 
>> it’s difficult to spin very fine linen thread by machine - in the past, very 
>> expert master handspinners achieved very fine linen threads, but that 
>> quality of skill just doesn’t exist any more. 
>> 
>> When I was into handspinning, every year I’d meet one or two people who were 
>> determined to learn handspinning so they could re-create the very fine linen 
>> threads of 200 years ago. They’d take the class and buy the equipment and 
>> the hank of flax and you’d never hear from them again, and I’m not 
>> surprised. I tried it once and with great difficulty I was able to produce a 
>> fair-quality baling twine ;-)
>> 
>> I must say that I love to use linen thread and I don’t notice the slubs in 
>> the finished lace. Maybe I’m just so used to them, maybe it’s because 
>> mangling makes the lace look different, maybe they just don’t bug me the way 
>> they do you. I don’t know! You’re right in thinking that you will risk 
>> breaking the thread by picking out the slub. The thread will also be less 
>> twisted in the place where the slub used to be, and will be weaker in that 
>> spot as a result.
>> 
>> This probably doesn’t help much, but since the list is quiet I thought 
>> nobody’d mind.
>> 
>> Adele
>> West Vancouver, BC
>> (west coast of Canada)
>> 
>>> Hello All!  May I ask what brand linen thread you are using & why?  I'm a 
>>> bit steamed to find big hunks of lint stuck in 90/2 linen thread & unsure 
>>> of whether to pick it out & risk breaking the thread or cutting it out & 
>>> adding a new bobbin.  While I realize that linen was nicer in the "good old 
>>> days", I'm concerned that there seems to be so little quality control for 
>>> thread that is now $xx a spool!  Is one brand doing a better job of it than 
>>> another or is this just the new normal?  Comments?  Suggestions?  Many 
>>> thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 
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Re: [lace] Linen thread

[Clay Blackwell]

My perspective is that there a variety of qualities of linen that give us 
multiple options when planning a project.  Some threads are fairly smooth, and 
others have lots of slubs.  The art of matching the thread to the design is 
part of the fun!

Clay

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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 2:45 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Hello All!  May I ask what brand linen thread you are using & why?  I'm a bit 
> steamed to find big hunks of lint stuck in 90/2 linen thread & unsure of 
> whether to pick it out & risk breaking the thread or cutting it out & adding 
> a new bobbin.  While I realize that linen was nicer in the "good old days", 
> I'm concerned that there seems to be so little quality control for thread 
> that is now $xx a spool!  Is one brand doing a better job of it than another 
> or is this just the new normal?  Comments?  Suggestions?  Many thanks.  
> Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 
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Re: [lace] Hi, New Member here.

[Clay Blackwell]

A couple of years ago, I had a TBI (traumatic brain injury) which affected my 
memory.  I am still dealing with memory issues, but my Neurologist strongly 
recommended eye-hand activities, and was delighted to know I am a lacemaker.  
The quality of my lace suffered in the beginning, and I had to work less 
complex lace for a while, but I am now working my favorite Binche again and am 
happy with the results!  

Clay

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> On Oct 16, 2016, at 12:04 AM, Joseph Young  
> wrote:
> 
> I have heard of it Kim,
> 
> I am currently trialing a new therapy/drug regime, it seems to be helping. 
> Only problem is the side effects.
> 
> I have found that doing bobbin lace is very therapeutic. The movements repeat 
> themselves, which is wonderful for OCD.
> 
> 
> On 16-Oct-16 10:43 AM, Kim Davis wrote:
> Joseph,
> 
> I am so glad you are able to reach out!  This is a fun hobby, regardless 
> of whether or not you find it an art or a craft!
> 
> Have you heard of EMDR therapy before?  it is an interesting thing, and I 
> was once reading an article about how things such as bobbin lace can mimic 
> it.  I can
> not recall where I read it, or I would share that with you.  If it comes to 
> me I will be sure to post.  In any case, the idea is that because you are 
> working with both your left and right hands, it engages both sides of the 
> brain and is helpful in getting the emotional side to talk to the logical 
> side.  Thankfully the anxiety I have experienced in my life has been mild, 
> but I will say that I noticed long ago that both bobbin lace and braiding 
> have a very meditative quality for me.  I think the symmetrical work is very 
> soothing.
> 
> Have fun with your lace!
> 
> Kim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Joseph
> 
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> -Dolly Parton
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Re: [lace] Lace Guild UK index to Lace magazine

[Clay Blackwell]

Thank you, Malvary!  As with any "volunteer effort", I think we all should 
provide a bit of lattitude!  I'm sorry if you have felt pressured by critics.  
Perhaps they could help by putting the raw data into a file for you to work 
with!  If not...  let them read raw data!

Hugs! And Thanks!

Clay
Clay Blackwell
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> On Oct 4, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Malvary Cole <malva...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> I must confess that it is me who currently does the index.  I've been doing 
> it for 2-3 years now.  Just indexing the most recent issue (163).  I also 
> proof-read the issue before printing and have just finished proof-reading 164.
> 
> Haven't finished indexing 163 yet because I'm working on a piece of lace for 
> the 2018 Lace Guild Calendar, and the deadline is looming (passed one and 
> aiming for the new one).  I'm also managing the Calendar project.
> 
> I'm just pointing this out that although I live in Canada and can't volunteer 
> to help at shows etc., there are things that I can do.  Perhaps if you live 
> far from the headquarters of your national lace group you could find 
> something to help with, too.
> 
> Malvary in Ottawa where we have a lovely early September type day.  Going to 
> mow lawns this afternoon when my students have left.
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[lace] Storm!

[Clay Blackwell]

To all of my irreplaceable friends in the path of the storm...  I have room for 
you to come and ride it out!  Batten your hatches and head north.  Pets are 
welcome... (yes, more than one, we'll manage) but if possible, bring a crate if 
behavior is questioned...  my cat will live under my bed, and doggie has his 
own crate if he wants to be an ugly host!

If you can, give me a head's up that you're coming!  Otherwise, just come!  
Safety is the main thing!

Hugs and prayers!

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Re: [lace] Gertrude Whiting - Potted Biography?

[Clay Blackwell]

Congratulations Brian, on completing this Herculean task!  I am eager to see it!

Clay

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[lace] Re: Distressing news

[Clay Blackwell]

> I have just gotten an email from Angel, and she is home now on antibiotics.
Since her fever has broken, she is now allowed to take care of her baby.  I
don't think bonding will be an issue for her...  She bonded with that little
life the moment she knew that she was there!  I am very relieved.  I'm
trusting that a life as young as this can still bond to her mother  Her
MIL has been there for the duration, and this has been a Godsend for her.
>
> Thank you for your prayers!  They were heard!!!

Clay

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> On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Clay Blackwell <clayblackw...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> For all of the Lacemakers who came to Lace at Sweet Briar, and enjoyed the
expert massages that Angelic Yousef gave us...
>
> Angelic had a beautiful baby girl about ten days ago.  The baby is fine, but
Angelic was hospitalized yesterday with pneumonia.   She has not had much
contact with the baby since birth, and antibiotics were not working.   Keep
her in your thoughts and prayers.
>
> Clay
>
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Re: [lace] Danish 'Little Hearts'

[Clay Blackwell]

Make that, "the smocking".

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> On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Clay Blackwell <clayblackw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Nancy.  I used this pattern, (gulp), almost 19 years ago to make 
> not one, but two gowns for two grandsons born in December, 1998!  Since they 
> were boys, the stocking was more predominate than the lace, but they had lace 
> around the neckline and on the sleeves.  
> 
> I hope to live long enough to see them on my great-grandchildren!
> 
> Clay
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Nancy Neff <nancy.a.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lori,
>> 
>> There's a pattern in Skovgaard's "The Technique of Tonder Lace" call "The
>> little heart of Denmark"--do you think that's it?  Pattern 9, pp.. 56-57,
>> if you need to request it from the IOLI Librarian.
>> 
>> Nancy
>> 
>> Nancy A. Neff
>> Connecticut, USA
>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Lorri Ferguson <lorri...@msn.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am looking for the pattern for the Danish 'Little Hearts'.  Does anyone
>>> know
>>> which book or books it is in?
>>> 
>>> I want to make it for my daughter's wedding veil.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know I have seen it and should have it somewhere but I can't find it
>>> today.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Needing your help,  Lorri Ferguson
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Re: [lace] Danish 'Little Hearts'

[Clay Blackwell]

I agree with Nancy.  I used this pattern, (gulp), almost 19 years ago to make 
not one, but two gowns for two grandsons born in December, 1998!  Since they 
were boys, the stocking was more predominate than the lace, but they had lace 
around the neckline and on the sleeves.  

I hope to live long enough to see them on my great-grandchildren!

Clay

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> On Sep 3, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Nancy Neff  wrote:
> 
> Hi Lori,
> 
> There's a pattern in Skovgaard's "The Technique of Tonder Lace" call "The
> little heart of Denmark"--do you think that's it?  Pattern 9, pp.. 56-57,
> if you need to request it from the IOLI Librarian.
> 
> Nancy
> 
> Nancy A. Neff
> Connecticut, USA
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Lorri Ferguson  wrote:
>> 
>> I am looking for the pattern for the Danish 'Little Hearts'.  Does anyone
>> know
>> which book or books it is in?
>> 
>> I want to make it for my daughter's wedding veil.
>> 
>> 
>> I know I have seen it and should have it somewhere but I can't find it
>> today.
>> 
>> 
>> Needing your help,  Lorri Ferguson
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[lace] Distressing news

[Clay Blackwell]

For all of the Lacemakers who came to Lace at Sweet Briar, and enjoyed the 
expert massages that Angelic Yousef gave us...

Angelic had a beautiful baby girl about ten days ago.  The baby is fine, but 
Angelic was hospitalized yesterday with pneumonia.   She has not had much 
contact with the baby since birth, and antibiotics were not working.   Keep her 
in your thoughts and prayers.  

Clay

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Re: [lace] Fw: [Superior Threads Newsletter] We LOVE Silk Threads! Save 25% on Kimono Silk

[Clay Blackwell]

I would like to hear Brenda Patternosta's stats on this lace!  It sounds good!

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> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone tried using this silk thread for lacemaking or sewing?   I have
> just been sent their newsletter and see that there are lots of colours, and
> 25% off for the next few days!
> 
> https://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/category/thread/?brand=Kimono+Silk
> 
> 
> Sue Babbs
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Re: [lace] Feast of Magazines

[Clay Blackwell]

Lucky you!!!  Sounds like several evenings worth of feasts!  

Clay
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA

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> On Aug 16, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Malvary Cole <malva...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> 
> Just retrieved my mail from the box and found Lace Society magazine Lacemaking
> and Lace Guild magazine Lace.  Feast of reading for the evening.. but
> I’ve just been invited out for dinner and I’m leaving in 20 minutes.
> 
> Oh well, the print won’t fall off the pages while I’m gone and they’ll
> still be here when I get back.
> 
> Malvary in Ottawa where we are under a severe rain warning with a forecast of
> 50 mm of rain this evening.
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Re: [lace] luck to my lace pillow?

[Clay Blackwell]

You have been blessed!

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> On Aug 14, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Nancy Neff  wrote:
> 
> I must tell someone about this. I had a visit this afternoon from the
> tiniest spider I've ever seen--her body is the size of the head of a lace
> pin (not a glass-headed pin but a regular lace pin), She walked all over
> the lace I was working on, climbing up individual pins and weaving through
> the forest of pins. She even spun a tiny web between a pair of pins farther
> apart than the rest, out by themselves because I'd already removed the pins
> around them. I couldn't see the web but I could tell it was there because
> she'd walk from one of the pins to other through thin air between them.
> After about a hour of keeping me company while I continued to make lace,
> she started for the edge of the pillow, so I had her walk up on my
> fingernail and transferred her to a windowsill.
> 
> I think I was visited by Arachne herself and I shall have luck on that
> pillow!
> 
> Nancy
> bemused in Connecticut, USA
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Re: [lace] working with a bolster pillow

[Clay Blackwell]

You might try to double hitch them if you aren't already.

Clay

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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 1:36 PM, sylvie nguyen  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Having just finished my first lace motif on a bolster pillow, I'm in need
> of advice.  My Idrija bobbins, wound with linen thread, repeatedly had
> "growing" leads (distance between the bobbin and the pillow) on them.  What
> do people advise, to maintain shorter leads?
> 
> Thank you, in advance, your suggestions.
> Sylvie, in hot and humid Cherry Valley, Illinois
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Re: [lace] Lace and spider fabric

[Clay Blackwell]

I found the fabrics in JoAnn's.  It is much darker than it appears in the 
pictures I've seen.  

I doubt that the other source is copying.  More likely it is buying from the 
same wholesale source that JoAnn's buys from.

Clay

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> On Aug 2, 2016, at 11:18 AM, Regina Haring  wrote:
> 
> Doesn't it seem illegal for somebody to pirate the design?  Just asking.
> Two salespeople in Jo-Ann's told me that they probably would get more of
> the lace and spiders fabric in before Halloween.
> Regina Haring
> Nanuet, NY
> 
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Re: [lace] lace and spider fabric

[Clay Blackwell]

That's great!!!  Size limitations suggest a quilt design!  Most spectacular 
pillow bag on the planet comes to mind!!!

Clay

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> On Jul 30, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Marianne Gallant <m...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Actually, it is neither paper nor fabric. It is a downloadable file to 
> do your own printing, either on paper, or on printable fabric, but you'd 
> be limited to the width of your printer.
> 
> *Marianne*
> 
> Marianne Gallant
> Vernon, BC Canada
> m...@shaw.ca
> http://threadsnminis.blogspot.ca, https://www.facebook.com/GallantCreation/
> 
>> On 30/07/2016 1:14 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:
>>   It's perfect for lacemaker projects.  However, I believe this is paper, 
>> not fabric...  :(
>> 
>> Clay Blackwell
>> Lynchburg VA, USA
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> http://www.joann.com/spider-lace-printable/3742819P233.html#q=lace%2Bspider
>> refn1=prod_type=Project=1
>>  Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, www.jblace.com
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Re: [lace] lace and spider fabric

[Clay Blackwell]

  It's perfect for lacemaker projects.  However, I believe this is paper, not 
fabric...  :(

Clay Blackwell
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> On Jul 30, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Janice Blair <jbl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> I can forsee some raffle prizes next year for our Arachne free raffle using
> this fabric, cover cloths, bobbin rolls, etc. Thanks Arlene for the
> tip.Janice
> 
>  IOLI Convention last week, I commented on her cover cloth - a fabric with a
> lace design and spiders.  She said it was a recent find at JoAnn Fabrics
> (which is a fabric chain here in the US) and found in their Halloween fabric
> section.  Sure enough, I went to a JoAnn's today and found that fabric and
> bought myself a yard, to turn into some cover clothes and maybe some other
> fun
> things.  The fabric can be viewed by going here:
> http://www.joann.com/spider-lace-printable/3742819P233.html#q=lace%2Bspider
> refn1=prod_type=Project=1
>  Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, www.jblace.com 
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Re: [lace] Lace as Art?

[Clay Blackwell]

Thank you so much for expressing why I have not been interested in this 
discussion!

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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Sandi Woods  wrote:
> 
> I too, along with other lacemakers, have been rather too busy to join this
> somewhat ridiculous discussion.  Invited to the IOLI Convention in
> Indianapolis, I've been teaching some of the techniques that allow for
> ideas to be expressed in bobbin lace in a painterly manner.
> Is this Art?  Dear me, could that mean I'll be accused of teaching Art?
> Since when have textiles been excluded  from the definition of Art?  By
> whom?
> Most lacemakers that know me and/or my work, know that for me, working with
> textiles and other mediums, usually in paint, pastel and pencil, is what I
> do as a Fine Artist and as a lacemaker.
> (Note: Capital Letters - this makes it altogether more Important)
> If I work in silk textiles, does that make me a Fine Artist (2nd class) or
> a Lacemaker (1st class)?  Why on earth should anyone want to define what I
> do anyway?  Will it mean they like my lace more if I call myself an Artist
> or less, if categorised as a 'mere' lacemaker?
> Will it help Devon to decide upon the answer to her question if she knows I
> spent many years, at the Government's expense, learning how to 'do' Fine
> Art (which, by the way, included textiles in the College prospectus)?
> So many questions and none of them really worth a discussion.
> If textiles simply aren't 'Art'.then the Victoria and Albert Museum
> in London (and others world-wide) might feel they have some explaining to
> do. Has the public been hood-winked for years?
> There have been numerous efforts to define what Art actually is, for
> decades, for centuries even, and should the definitive answer ever be
> found, how would that benefit anyone?
> For me, I do what I do. I have ideas and choose what I feel is the best and
> most suitable medium to use for their creation.  Some may like my finished
> pieces, some may not, but I create them nonetheless.  The need to create is
> like breathing and I don't plan on stopping either anytime soon!
> Perhaps Devon et al would like to ponder on the words of Leonardo da Vinci,
> "When the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art'.
> I couldn't have put it better myself!
> Sandi  (Just about to untangle myself and find my paintbrush)
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Re: [lace] Supporting young lacemakers

[Clay Blackwell]

I totally agree!

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> On Jul 23, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Marianne Gallant  wrote:
> 
> I think this discussion is going in the wrong direction. We don't need 
> young 'artists' to  continue the art of lacemaking. If you come right 
> down to it, it is not really an 'art form' like a painting you put on a 
> wall. It never really was, it was mainly something to decorate clothing 
> or household linens. It was more a beautification of a utilitarian item, 
> not something you hung on a wall. Yes there is some of that now made, 
> but it wasn't considered an art form that could be collected, or that 
> increased in value.
> What we need is to encourage young people to study lace and become 
> designers or teachers. Publish patterns, write books, but going in the 
> direction of making it into an art form, and make a living out of just 
> making items is not going to work. Really, most ordinary people don't 
> spend money on these kind of things, unless they want some handmade lace 
> to add to a wedding veil, or a christening gown. Even there, most of the 
> time it is machine made lace that gets used (think royal wedding gowns). 
> But you can make a living by designing patterns and selling them. And 
> even there you can go the 'artistic' route, but to try and make a living 
> selling finished lace items is just not an option, most art is bought by 
> very rich people who could care less about a lace item, or it is an art 
> installation put up by a big company or a government. But those things 
> are rare, and not something where as an artist you can make money.
> Really, to replace the people that we are losing, we need designers and 
> teachers, not 'artists'. And we should not be letting them think they 
> can make money selling their creations, but they can by selling the 
> patterns. Knitters, crocheters, quilters and for that matter tatters 
> don't make a lot of money selling their finished products, I hear them 
> all complaining that people don't want to 'pay' for labour, often not 
> even enough for the materials. But they have no problem selling the 
> patterns, and/or writing books. It just takes too many hours to create 
> and item, which means you can't get even minimum wage for your labour.
> 
> *Marianne*
> 
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Re: [lace] Antique divider pins?

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Brian,

I have attached a picture of an antique pin I have.  It is silver, and I
suspect that it may have been a hat pin!  In fact, a lacemaker could use it
for both, if so inclined!

I know that Arachne will trim the picture, but hopefully you will be able to
see it.  If not, let me know and I'll send it directly to you!

Clay
Lynchburg, VA, USA

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> 
> I do not have a picture of an Antique divider pin. can anyone help please?
> Long, specially decorated.  You know best

> Brian

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Re: [lace] bobbin winders

[Clay Blackwell]

There is a wonderful winder made in Germany.  It is made of wood and there is a 
power-pack that plugs in.  For those of us in the US, the maker supplies the 
power pack for our AA batteries.  It is very lightweight, takes very little 
space when storing or packing, and best of all is very quiet, so you can wind 
while watching TV!

I know that Holly carries this, but you might want to check Snowgoose as well 
to compare cost as well as shipping!

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA. USA

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> On May 27, 2016, at 6:08 AM, sylvie nguyen <sylvieroyngu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Can anyone know what models of bobbin winders are still made, beside the
> small black plastic ones?
> 
> Sylvie
> Cherry Valley, Illinois
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Re: [lace] Fwd: Continental metal bobbin wonder

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Dianne!

You have a very desirable bobbin winder, to be sure!   On the top of the 
winder, near the handle, there should be a small hole.  This is for lubricant.  
I recommend something like sewing machine oil.  Put a drop or two into the 
whole and turn the handle. Continue until it rotates freely again.  

Clay

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Lynchburg, VA. USA

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> On May 23, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Dianne <dl.nich...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi,  I wonder if someone can help me.
> 
> I purchased a bobbin winder at a lacemaking event a couple of years ago. I 
> have been using it this winter and it is becoming harder and harder to turn 
> the hand crank without it ceasing up. Does anyone know if there is a way to 
> lubricate this winder?
> 
> A photo of the winder can be found at:
> http://frivologic.blogspot.ca/2014/12/continental-lace-bobbin-winder.html
> 
> Dianne
> 
> 
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Re: [lace] Re happy birthday

[Clay Blackwell]

When I first started making lace, my dear friend Tamara Duval gave me a bone 
commemorative bobbin which celebrated the first anniversary of Arachne.  The 
date of the anniversary on the bobbin is 4/96.  

So, it would seem that the list is 20 years old!!!  

Clay
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA

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> On Apr 12, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Angel <cearbh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Just how old are we now? I seem to recall it was still the 80's when I 
> joined... Or the VERY early 90's.
> 
> Cearbhael
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Re: [lace] Magic threads

[Clay Blackwell]

I have found you on Facebook and looked at the shawl!  *Very* pretty!  Congrats!

Clay

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> On Apr 11, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Ann-Marie Lördal  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> I have been off bobbinlace for about 10 years and have not read this list
> since then. I have now found the inspiration again and have finished my
> shawl in silk I started on 12 years ago. Is the list as active as it used
> to be or has it moved to another place?
> 
> Now I have to ask about the Magic Thread, I know I have used it but I do
> not remember how I did it! Do you have an easy explanation or a picture of
> how to do it?
> 
> There is a picture of the shawl (it is pink) at my facebook, I am not sure
> how to show it otherwise. I have pinterest but I do not know how to add a
> picture to it and I can´t find instructions either.
> 
> Kind regards
> Ann-Marie Lordal, Sweden
> 
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Re: [lace] Biggins / Presencia

[Clay Blackwell]

That is just so sad.  I really fear for the livelihood of our precious art!

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> On Mar 22, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Brenda Paternoster  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Liz
> 
> It’s because Presencia Spain are insolvent.  The conditions the
> administrators are imposing - big price increase, payment in advance and with
> the current situation no certainty of actually receiving the goods - meant
> that Vivienne and Iain of Presencia UK felt that they had no option other than
> voluntary liquidation/winding up.
> 
> Once the legalities are sorted and different threads have been sourced they
> are planning to relaunch as Biggins; concentration on their patterns and
> appraise threads for those patterns.
> 
> Brenda
> 
>> 
>> Guys,
>> Just went to the Biggins website and it's down. Kind Regards
> 
> Brenda in Allhallows
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Re: [lace] Bobbin lace in Celtic nations?

[Clay Blackwell]

Reading Brenda's knowledgeable review of the apparent absence of lacemaking in 
Celtic regions reminds me of something I have seen for years in Virginia!  
Reenactment of  Civil War battles were all over the entire country in recent 
years, and reenactors were everywhere!  The problem is, lots of women wanted to 
get in on the fun, and so they dressed themselves in hoop skirts and sat on the 
sidelines making bobbin lace!  That was so wrong in so many ways!  Women,during 
the civil war, and especially near battlefields, did not make lace!  They 
struggled to provide food and shelter for their families and certainly did not 
have the time or interest in lacemaking.  Remember that machine lace had become 
available by that point, and Lacemaking by hand was quickly becoming a lost 
art.  It was not until a few decades after the end of the war that Europeans 
revived the lost art, and it was years later before American women caught on.  

I think that in our enthusiasm to share this wonderful work, we really need to 
provide accurate information.

Clay
Struggling now to "get off of my high horse" in Lynchburg, VA

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> 
>> 
>> I'd like to find some information about bobbin lace specifically in the
>> Celtic nations (officially: Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Isle of Man, Brittany
>> [northwest corner of France], and Cornwall, and some lists also include
>> Galicia in northern Spain). Can someone recommend a book or other source of
>> such information? All I've found online is about Ireland, and not very much
>> of that.
> 
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Re: [lace] Binche Rabbits

[Clay Blackwell]

Susan and Eve...  Just to confirm, I have Folio II, and it is definitely the 
first pattern in the folder!  A very sweet piece!

Clay

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> On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Susan Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eve
> 
> I think the pattern you want is in Memoire II by Kumiko (this one has a green
> cover), it's pattern 1 - Spring.  It was published in 1998 so The Lace Guild
> is probably your best bet
> 
> Susan
> --
> Susan Roberts
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Re: [lace] Binche Rabbits

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Eve,

The  Rabbit handkerchief was designed by Kumiko Nakazaki and is the first 
pattern in her "Memoire II" folio.  She is a gifted designer, and one of the 
last (and youngest) still teaching from the Kantcentrum Master Class!

Clay

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Lynchburg, VA,  USA

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> On Mar 9, 2016, at 3:03 PM, Eve Morton <e...@chez-morton.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone again,
> 
> With Sue Babbs timely information I hope that I have managed to create an 
> album and upload the photo of the lace corner  of the Binche lace rabbits 
> now.  The link to the photo (I hope) is:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/25024339713/in/album-72157665696874675/
> 
> Eve
> Poole, Dorset, UK
> 
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Re: [lace] Recommendations for beginner Binche books

[Clay Blackwell]

And, just in!  I have received two new additions to my Binche Library! 

Nora Andries has polished "Naar de bron" whose subtitle translates to, "A 
technical approach to early Binche lace".  Written in three languages, it it 
accessible to most Lacemakers!  This provides an exhaustive coverage of old 
Binche techniques.

And, an interesting new addition to the Binche library is a folio authored by 
Lieve Pollet, entitled "Brugse Binche,  Ouderwets (old-fashioned lace) & 
Mentebollen (roughly translated to 'mint ball').".  This folio explores the 
"old-fashioned" laces of Bruges, with a very solid coverage of reading and 
following color code and diagrams.

Be still, my heart!

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA,USA
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> On Feb 13, 2016, at 6:58 PM, Clay Blackwell <clayblackw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Debora,
> 
> I read your initial inquiry, and did not answer right away because I needed 
> to think about my own path, and what worked, and what did not...
> 
> I was extremely fortunate to be "adopted" by lacemaking friends on the East 
> Coast, from Maine to Pennsylvania and Maryland, and was invited to a workshop 
> in PA with Michael Giusiana.  That workshop was my first exposure to Binche, 
> and Michael was a fantastic teacher.  He had written his second book by then 
> (the old blue and yellow cover, without Belgian Color Code was his first!).  
> He asked me for pictures of some of my work, and based on that, suggested 
> which patterns I would be ready for.  
> 
> My experience leads me to say that if you can possibly find a teacher of 
> Binche who is very energetic, loves the lace, and has the ability to offer 
> various viewpoints when explaining specific techniques, you will be extremely 
> fortunate!  Since beginning with Michael, I have also had many classes with 
> Anny Noben-Slegers, and one memorable class in Brugges with Anne-Marie 
> Verbeke-Billiet!
> 
> But, the bottom line is that when you begin to make Binche, you really just 
> have to jump in and do in, regardless of which book you start with. Binche is 
> a lace that, by necessity, needs to be done as a solo exercise, but it also 
> needs a coach who can help you interpret what you're dealing with and flesh 
> out the diagram with specific rules about twists, gimps, etc.  
> 
> Michael's books are excellent.  There are patterns for everyone.  The 
> Kantcentrum Folios are excellent, and if you start with folio #1, you will 
> find yourself building skills in an organized way.  
> 
> Nothing can substitute for good classes with very good teachers.  But your 
> question demonstrates how big our world is, and how few Lacemakers there are, 
> and... In fact... How many of our best teachers are retiring now.
> 
> Bottom line...  If you want to learn Binche, buy the books you can find now, 
> because they won't be there tomorrow!
> 
> And, be aware that Michael, Anny, and Anne-Marie have all retired from 
> regular teaching.  Kumiko Nakazaki is also a member of the Kantcentrum Master 
> Class, and continues to teach.
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Debora Lustgarten <drac...@primus.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I'm thinking of trying my hand at Binche, and would love to hear your 
>> recommendations for beginner's books.
>> My preference is for books with line diagrams over lengthy explanations, and 
>> especially like the style of Ulrike Voelcker's books.
>> Thank you in advance for your suggestions and tips,
>> 
>> Debora Lustgarten
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Re: [lace] Recommendations for beginner Binche books

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Debora,

I read your initial inquiry, and did not answer right away because I needed to 
think about my own path, and what worked, and what did not...

I was extremely fortunate to be "adopted" by lacemaking friends on the East 
Coast, from Maine to Pennsylvania and Maryland, and was invited to a workshop 
in PA with Michael Giusiana.  That workshop was my first exposure to Binche, 
and Michael was a fantastic teacher.  He had written his second book by then 
(the old blue and yellow cover, without Belgian Color Code was his first!).  He 
asked me for pictures of some of my work, and based on that, suggested which 
patterns I would be ready for.  

My experience leads me to say that if you can possibly find a teacher of Binche 
who is very energetic, loves the lace, and has the ability to offer various 
viewpoints when explaining specific techniques, you will be extremely 
fortunate!  Since beginning with Michael, I have also had many classes with 
Anny Noben-Slegers, and one memorable class in Brugges with Anne-Marie 
Verbeke-Billiet!

But, the bottom line is that when you begin to make Binche, you really just 
have to jump in and do in, regardless of which book you start with. Binche is a 
lace that, by necessity, needs to be done as a solo exercise, but it also needs 
a coach who can help you interpret what you're dealing with and flesh out the 
diagram with specific rules about twists, gimps, etc.  

Michael's books are excellent.  There are patterns for everyone.  The 
Kantcentrum Folios are excellent, and if you start with folio #1, you will find 
yourself building skills in an organized way.  

Nothing can substitute for good classes with very good teachers.  But your 
question demonstrates how big our world is, and how few Lacemakers there are, 
and... In fact... How many of our best teachers are retiring now.

Bottom line...  If you want to learn Binche, buy the books you can find now, 
because they won't be there tomorrow!

And, be aware that Michael, Anny, and Anne-Marie have all retired from regular 
teaching.  Kumiko Nakazaki is also a member of the Kantcentrum Master Class, 
and continues to teach.

Clay



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> On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Debora Lustgarten  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I'm thinking of trying my hand at Binche, and would love to hear your 
> recommendations for beginner's books.
> My preference is for books with line diagrams over lengthy explanations, and 
> especially like the style of Ulrike Voelcker's books.
> Thank you in advance for your suggestions and tips,
> 
> Debora Lustgarten

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Re: [lace] Sari silk yarn question

[Clay Blackwell]

I made a very narrow "scarf" with recycled sari silk a year or two ago.  I have 
worn it several times and have had no issues with the colors running!  Unless 
you're caught in a deluge, you shouldn't worry about the colors running, and if 
you *are* caught in a deluge, take the scarf off!

This is all said because the colors are so bright and beautiful, I would be 
reluctant to change that quality in the yarn!

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA

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> On Jan 31, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Witchy Woman <wytchy...@sbcglobal.net> 
> 
> 
> ... recycled sari silk yarn from Darn Good Yarn 
> (http://www.darngoodyarn.com/) .  It has been my experience in the past 
> that the fabrics ...have a
> tendency to not be colorfast,   I would like to prewash the yarn before I 
> use it to wash out the excess dye. ... 
> 
> Would a little bit of vinegar be OK?  Any other ideas on how to set the dye?
> 
> Peg

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Re: [lace] blocking silk scarf

[Clay Blackwell]

I should have added that I start with a damp piece which has been liberally 
sprayed with water...

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> On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:28 PM, Clay Blackwell <clayblackw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I have blocked several scarves, both bobbin lace and knitted lace.  My 
> preference is to use blocking wires.  I have a special set of interlocking 
> blocks that can be configured to cover under the scarf.  The wires are each 
> 36" long, and they are closely woven through the edge of your scarf and then 
> pinned into the foam with the wire ends overlapping and secured by pins.  My 
> preference is to stretch the lace just slightly, so that after the pins and 
> wires are removed, the lace can relax to the size it was designed to be.
> 
> If this is the only scarf you think you will ever make, the cost of the wire 
> set (around $20) and the foam block set (somewhere between $15 and $20) may 
> be more than you want to spend.  In that case, go to a good LYS (local yarn 
> shop) and see if they offer the blocking service for a fee.  Another option 
> is to check with members of local lace and knitting clubs to see if someone 
> there can help you!
> 
> I have even used this system on a lovely shawl I knitted for a dear 
> lacemaking teacher of mine.  This shawl was triangular, and had a straight 
> edge and two pointy scalloped edges.  I used wires in the usual manner on the 
> straight edge, and on the scalloped edge used them to create a smooth line 
> between the body of the shawl and the pointy edge treatment!  The points were 
> then defined by carefully placed pins.  The result was lovely, and has lasted 
> for years!
> 
> Clay
> Clay Blackwell
> Still snow-bound in Virginia, USA
> 
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>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Lorelei Halley <lhal...@bytemeusa.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>> I think pinning it at foot long intervals is not a good idea. You will end
>> up with pointy scallops. Elizabeth Kurella's method works better, I think.
>> 
>> Lay the dripping wet lace on a clean waterproof surface. Use your fingers to
>> stretch the lace into the shape it should have. Leave it along completely
>> until it is totally dry. Water tension will stick the lace to the surface.
>> You will end up with a lace that is 95 % of its original condition.
>> 
>> Also, I would recommend cool water , not warm.
>> 
>> Please post a picture on our flickr page. I would love to see it.
>> 
>> Lorelei
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Re: [lace] blocking silk scarf

[Clay Blackwell]

I have blocked several scarves, both bobbin lace and knitted lace.  My 
preference is to use blocking wires.  I have a special set of interlocking 
blocks that can be configured to cover under the scarf.  The wires are each 36" 
long, and they are closely woven through the edge of your scarf and then pinned 
into the foam with the wire ends overlapping and secured by pins.  My 
preference is to stretch the lace just slightly, so that after the pins and 
wires are removed, the lace can relax to the size it was designed to be.

If this is the only scarf you think you will ever make, the cost of the wire 
set (around $20) and the foam block set (somewhere between $15 and $20) may be 
more than you want to spend.  In that case, go to a good LYS (local yarn shop) 
and see if they offer the blocking service for a fee.  Another option is to 
check with members of local lace and knitting clubs to see if someone there can 
help you!

I have even used this system on a lovely shawl I knitted for a dear lacemaking 
teacher of mine.  This shawl was triangular, and had a straight edge and two 
pointy scalloped edges.  I used wires in the usual manner on the straight edge, 
and on the scalloped edge used them to create a smooth line between the body of 
the shawl and the pointy edge treatment!  The points were then defined by 
carefully placed pins.  The result was lovely, and has lasted for years!

Clay
Clay Blackwell
Still snow-bound in Virginia, USA

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> On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Lorelei Halley <lhal...@bytemeusa.com> wrote:
> 
> Julie
> 
> I think pinning it at foot long intervals is not a good idea. You will end
> up with pointy scallops. Elizabeth Kurella's method works better, I think.
> 
> Lay the dripping wet lace on a clean waterproof surface. Use your fingers to
> stretch the lace into the shape it should have. Leave it along completely
> until it is totally dry. Water tension will stick the lace to the surface.
> You will end up with a lace that is 95 % of its original condition.
> 
> Also, I would recommend cool water , not warm.
> 
> Please post a picture on our flickr page. I would love to see it.
> 
> Lorelei
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[lace] Re:

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Sharon,

Books about lacemaking are generally published in fairly short runs, simply 
because there are still relatively few people in the general population who 
make lace (as opposed to people who cook,  for example).  So the book is 
released, bought by vendors, and if it is well received, by word of mouth 
people learn about it and buy it.  Once the run is gone, the publisher and 
author have to decide if a second run is in order.  Many times, the answer is 
no.  So people who have bought the book but don't use it can sell it for 
whatever the market will bear.

Don't be fooled by the prices you see from used book sellers.  They offer books 
at inflated prices and if there is no interest, they lower the price until they 
get a buyer.

Clay
Clay Blackwell
In dreary, wet, Virginia

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> On Dec 2, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Rick & Sharon Whiteley <rswhite...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
> Our club was just offered a largish collection of lace books to buy from an
> old lace maker.  The current owner had priced them out on EBay and Amazon.
> Well, I thought the asking prices were a bit inflated until I checked our
> regular suppliers and elsewhere.  Turns out that most of these books have
> increased anywhere from 100% and up ... in just one year!  The cause isn’t
> just because of our devalued Canadian dollar either, that realistically
> shouldn’t account for more than 20%.  What gives?  Sharon, on rainy
> Vancouver Island

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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Clay Blackwell]

Well, yes and no...  It does sound drastic!  If the pillow has little intrinsic 
or sentimental value, I would agree.  Before I retired, I was lucky enough to 
acquire a couple of wonderful pillows, and they are my "go-to" pillows now.  If 
infested, I would definitely opt for letting the dead vermin get poked with my 
pins, rather than throwing a wonderful pillow away!  In my mind, a mite shell 
and a sea-grass bit are not so different, once both are no longer living.

Clay
Clay Blackwell in dreary Virginia, USA  Where rumor has it we will finally 
see the sun tomorrow!

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> On Dec 2, 2015, at 3:10 PM, AGlez <antje.gonza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It may sound a bit drastic but.. what about throwing your pillow away and
> making a new one? I wouldn't like to work on a pillow with dead mites in it!
> 
> 
> Antje
> ​, from Spain, where the temperature is 0º now.
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Re: [lace] mounting lace

[Clay Blackwell]

Excellent recommendations!  Thanks, Sharon!

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> On Nov 20, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Rick & Sharon Whiteley  
> wrote:
> 
> When mounting an object for framing be it picture, textiles, or whatever,
> under no circumstances should the glass touch the piece.  When something is
> mounted and framed with glass you are creating a mini climate within that
> frame which can be extremely harmful.  Putting the glass against the piece
> doesn’t allow for it to breathe and thus promotes mildew, foxing and many
> other nasty's. A mat provides the needed space but if that is not desirable
> you can use very thin strips of mat board (or commercial spacers) attached to
> the inside rim of the frame which will create the necessary space and won’t
> be seen.  Make sure when you buy mat board that the cut edges look white
> (unless it’s one of the types that have the same colour throughout).  If the
> cut edge is light brownish that means they were made with wood pulp and will,
> with time, react with the humidity in the air to make sulphuric acid which in
> turn will burn what it’s resting against...in this case your background.  I
> would suggest you go to your local frame shop and buy small pieces of mat
> board (some will even give you small off-cuts).  Make sure you ask for
> archival board, it comes in many colours and finishes from suede, silk, linen
> etc.  Even still, with some finishes like suede it’s advisable to give it a
> light spraying with a clear acrylic to seal it..any coloured surface has
> potentially harmful dyes.  The next step would be to use your handy pattern
> pricker and pre-prick your sewing holes.  Then you can start to sew your lace
> onto the backing either using the same thread as the piece or preferably a
> finer thread of the same colour.  Keep in mind the forces of gravity, the
> piece will eventually sag a bit so make sure you use some support stitches in
> the middle as well as around the edges.  You don’t need many tiny close
> stitches, use your own judgement.  Another alternative would be to sew your
> piece onto unbleached cotton and then mount the cotton onto whatever you wish,
> it can work quite well with coloured laces...but make sure you use a spacer
> between it and the glass, I can’t emphasise that enough.  Sharon on Sunny
> but cold Vancouver Island
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Re: [lace] Venetian masks

[Clay Blackwell]

Susan, the mask was designed and made by our friend Sue Babbs!  I've seen it 
"in person" and it is stunning!

Clay

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> On Nov 7, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Susan  wrote:
> 
> Hello All!  While I was trying to sort out my Flickr issues, I ran across 
> some photos of a mask decorated with lace.  It was in the Camera Roll section 
> & added in March so I don't know who posted the photos.  Would you believe, I 
> am registered for a "mask making class" in January & I was already thinking 
> about a lace overlay as part of my embellishment!?!  The lace trim as 
> pictured is above my pay grade, but I am in awe.  Will the person who posted 
> the photos please share some additional info.  It is quite spectacular & 
> something I would wear in a heartbeat! Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, 
> Erie, PA USA 
> 
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Re: [lace] IOLI Bulletin

[Clay Blackwell]

Mine arrived on Saturday.  

Clay

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> On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:42 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> The last IOLI bulletin I received was the Summer 2015 edition.  Have others 
> in America received the fall edition or is there special delivery to 
> Australia and ours are on the way?  Anyone know?
> 
> 
> Sue
> 
> suebabbs...@gmail.com
> 
> 

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[lace] Yay!

[Clay Blackwell]

So glad to see American Pharoah  win the Triple Crown!

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Re: [lace] Kleinhout stars

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Sue,

I've sent you a reply with a photo attached.  Yes, I used the same thread the 
lace was made with, tied secure knots, and cut the ends short.  The result is 
very unobtrusive, IMO...

Clay

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> 
> Has anyone worked any of the Kleinhout stars?
> http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/lace-extras/
> 
> If so, can you give me advice on how best to attach the lace to the wood
> frames?
> 
> Do I use the thread that the lace is made in (which would show up against the
> frame) or one of those wretched invisible clear threads which are so hard to
> get to stay knotted?
> 
> Do I just attach at the points, and if so how do I hide the ends of the
> attaching thread?
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from someone who has already tackled these stars!
> 
> Sue
> 
> suebabbs...@gmail.com
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Re: [lace] Beautiful modern lace - mainly needlelace

[Clay Blackwell]

Very nice, Sue!  This reminds me of your lace mask!

Clay
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> On Oct 17, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> Have a look at this contemporary lace, combined with wood, ceramics, etc.
> Very nicely done
> 
> http://walldecor-laces.weebly.com/lace--wood.html
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/herczegagnescsipke?fref=ts
> 
> Sue
> 
> suebabbs...@gmail.com
> 
> 

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Re: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Jenny,

The Binche pattern I am just finishing shows tallies in black, in the shape 
they are meant to be (ie., leaf, square, rectangular) and plaits are shown the 
same way, as a heavy black line.  Twists are indicated by strokes across the 
line... One stroke indicates one twist, two strokes indicates two twists, etc.  
Picots are indicated by a circle around the pinhole.  This is the Belgian Color 
Code, and I'm not certain that this is the same as ICC or not.  

Clay

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> Ruth right now, but am not sure how tallies, plaits (blue?) and leaves are
> represented - for that matter what colour is used for picot? How does extra
> twists get shown?
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Re: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

[Clay Blackwell]

There are numerous ways that color codes have been developed.  It is my 
understanding that the use of color in diagrams is fairly "modern", and related 
to advances in the printing industry which made color affordable.

However, different designers and different styles of lace used different 
"rules", so it is imperative to refer to the designer's notes.  The Belgian 
Color Code was one of the first to be "standardized".  As I said in a previous 
reply, I am not sure how the ICC and the BCC compare.

Clay


> Looking at Lorelei's charts, specifically this one
> http://www.lynxlace.com/images-h-det-diag/colorcode.JPG
> yes plaits are blue.
> But in "Point Ground Lace, A Comparative Study", plaits are yellow, as are
> gimp lines and a pair involving one thick and one thin thread.
> In this book of many kinds of point ground lace which tend to have picot
> edges on the headside, picots are shown as a dot within a circle in
> whatever colour representing the stitch in the headside nearest the picot.
> 
> In my Cluny book, and in my Binche diagrams, extra twists are shown as one
> short red stroke across the thread for each extra twist.
> Leaf-tallies are shown in yellow in my Cluny book (for one thread weaving =
> yellow). I have a Binche diagram with square tallies shown in black.
> Both square and leaf tallies have characteristic shapes, so maybe their
> specific colour isn't that important vs. ground areas that need
> clarification?

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Re: [lace] International Colour Code for tallies, plaits and leaves

[Clay Blackwell]

VBG!

Yes, I looked at my copy and found it interesting for a couple of reasons.

First, since color has been introduced in printing, authors usually present a 
section in the beginning to define their use of color.  This was especially 
important in the early color days when different authors chose different color 
schemes!  So, it is just "best practice" to define the colors you use in this 
project you're undertaking!

Second, as Ulrike is an exemplary and prolific author, she had followed best 
practice to present her color code.  I noted that she does not refer to it as 
ICC, or as BCC, for that matter.  It is simply the colors she uses.  It makes 
sense that she is consistent with BCC, but she has also added a few things 
which are not generally part of Belgian laces, such as Honeycomb as well as 
yellow for special actions.  

So...  You have it on good authority if you adopt Ulrike's code!

Clay


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> On Sep 3, 2015, at 9:39 PM, Jenny Brandis  wrote:
> 
> Sometimes I wish I would just take a few extra minutes before asking for help 
>  
> 
> I am sorry everyone, I just had a brain wave and checked my lace library for 
> the Torchon: Discover, Explore, Master set of books by Ulrike Voelcher and 
> there was just what I was asking about.
> 

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Re: [lace] Contact

[Clay Blackwell]

Yes, and I maintain that the longer you let this build up, the more protection 
your antiques have from the elements, especially sunlight!!!  (VBG)

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On Aug 9, 2015, at 10:19 AM, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote:

 Alex,
 
 Blow the dust, let's make lace
 
 
 I heard on the Antique Road Show this week that dust is merely face powder 
 for old furniture!!
 David in Ballarat, AUS
 
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Re: [lace] Croatian lacemaker story

[Clay Blackwell]

I get the same message, and am equally eager to see it!

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 On Aug 4, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Sue Harvey 2harv...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 
 I would love to have a peek at the Croatian site but it just tells me site 
 not found?
 Sue M Harvey
 Norfolk
 UK 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 

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Re: [lace] Re: spiders in lace

[Clay Blackwell]

And, as Tamara was my first Guru of lacemaking, I was a solid 'flat' spider 
maker!!!

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 On Aug 1, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net wrote:
 
 Not having read Whiting (at the time), I used to spend a lot of time making 
 those spiders as flat as possible...
 
 On 1 Aug 2015, at 16:31, d2one...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 In researching material for a workshop on torchon spiders for our guild, I 
 came across Gertrude Whiting's directions for Plain Torchon Spiders.
 Pins are used in the center of the spider bodies only. These centers should 
 be raised to give an arched effect
 Does anyone try for that raised effect in spider ground nowadays?
 
 -- 
 Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
 Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
 
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Re: [lace] Etsy annoyance

[Clay Blackwell]

Facebook has a group for bobbin lace, and from what I can gather, many of the 
active participants are beginners, working with little or no instruction, going 
by books only!  I am impressed with their enthusiasm, and am happy to see 
members of Arachne jumping in to guide them!  Some have started out with the 
Kit from hell, but happily many have been directed to Snow Goose in the U.S. 
for their starter kit.  Others have made their own pillows from directions 
provided in very early lace books.  

One recent post was of hand-painted continental bobbins with spangles attached, 
which the lacemaker planned to use making Russian lace!  The bobbins were very 
pretty, and while I generally don't like to make negative statements to 
students, I suggested that the spangles were probably going to become annoying 
when she is doing all of the sewings required in Russian lace.  

So, with newer apps out there for social communication, even more people are 
being drawn to lacemaking!  This is especially good for people who have no 
group or teacher nearby, because videos on You-Tube and the group on Facebook 
really are helping lots of new Lacemakers!

Clay
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA

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 Wrote to 2 of the sellers explaining
 that lace is worked in pairs, and I would be interested in a lot of even
 numbers.  
 We'll see if anyone comes back with an offer.
 
 Peg
 
 In sunny and
 beautiful Cleveland Ohio
 
 

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Re: [lace] Re: [) E'Bay seller

[Clay Blackwell]

Dianna, the two emails were from a lacemaker in South Africa.  His statement 
was that there are many old prickings out there that are traditional designs 
and it is impossible to know who designed them.  So it is OK to share the old 
things.  In addition, I submit that when you find these old prickings, they do 
not have a diagram or any sort of instruction with them, so unless you are very 
clever or the pattern is very simple, it will be difficult to make lace from 
them.  If you *are* very clever and create your own diagram, you have created 
an adaptation to an old pattern, and may publish/share/sell to your heart's 
content.  In fact, many of the patterns in books today have been reconstructed 
from old prickings or more likely from pictures of old lace.

Clay
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA

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 wrote:
 
 Hello Nancy
 
 I don't think the two emails which appeared on Arachne Lace were from the eBay
 seller but I may be wrong. They were from South Africa the seller is in
 Norfolk GB.
 
 

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Re: [lace] (Lace) E'Bay seller

[Clay Blackwell]

I agree.

Clay Blackwell

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 On Jul 22, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Brenda Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com 
 wrote:
 
 As I understand it the photocopies were made by the original owner of a book
 for his/her personal use that was legal, but to remain legal they should have
 remained with the book.   A new owner of the book could use them if required,
 again for personal use only, but they should not have been passed on to a
 third party by sale or by gift.
 
 Brenda
 
 All that being said, the seller did not purposefully make copies of a
 publication to sell, did they? Is it unlawful to sell a piece of paper that
 happens to be a photocopy? What if the papers of the previous owner were of
 collectible value to someone?
 
 Brenda in Allhallows
 paternos...@appleshack.com
 www.brendapaternoster.co.uk
 
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