Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Lefteris Dimitroulakis
Στις Saturday 13 September 2008 08:28:21 ο/η Lefteris Dimitroulakis έγραψε: Since you install Man, you get relevant man pages translated in greek. So you may add in your Table 6.1 Greek (el) ISO-8859-7. Additionally: Bulgarian (bg) cp1251 Romanian (ro) ISO-8859-2 Slovenian (sl) ISO-8859-2

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread DJ Lucas
Roll back to file-4.21. The newer versions of file do not display the character set if type is text/troff. Additionally, the -e switch does not work at all (nor the long --exclude), so you can't exclude the troff test and assume text/plain. -- DJ Lucas -- This message has been scanned

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
DJ Lucas wrote: All the recently mentioned changes and updates have been made except for the testsuite fixes that Robert has been working on as I haven't had the time to do manual builds. Of note: GCC-4.3.2, GlibC-2.8-20080905, LSB bootscripts, initd-tools introduced, man instead of mandb

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
DJ Lucas wrote: Roll back to file-4.21. The newer versions of file do not display the character set if type is text/troff Testcase please. IMHO they are right, as it is impossible to reliably decide between, say, ISO-8859-1 and KOI8-R based only on manpage contents (without using a

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Lefteris Dimitroulakis wrote: Since you install Man, you get relevant man pages translated in greek. So you may add in your Table 6.1 Greek (el) ISO-8859-7. Additionally: Bulgarian (bg) cp1251 Romanian (ro) ISO-8859-2 Slovenian (sl) ISO-8859-2 NAK. The table in the text is really a

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
I wrote: And in fact I would strongly prefer a 8-line patch to Man to ignore non-English manual pages completely (instead of unconfigured groff-utf8 and hard-coded special-casing Japanese in Man-1.6f in a way that works only with Debian-patched Groff), as it saves the editors from all the

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread DJ Lucas
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: All the recently mentioned changes and updates have been made except for the testsuite fixes that Robert has been working on as I haven't had the time to do manual builds. Of note: GCC-4.3.2, GlibC-2.8-20080905, LSB bootscripts, initd-tools

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread DJ Lucas
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: Roll back to file-4.21. The newer versions of file do not display the character set if type is text/troff Testcase please. IMHO they are right, as it is impossible to reliably decide between, say, ISO-8859-1 and KOI8-R based only on

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
DJ Lucas wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: Roll back to file-4.21. The newer versions of file do not display the character set if type is text/troff Testcase please. IMHO they are right, as it is impossible to reliably decide between, say, ISO-8859-1 and KOI8-R

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Lefteris Dimitroulakis
Στις Saturday 13 September 2008 12:01:19 γράψατε: Lefteris Dimitroulakis wrote: Since you install Man, you get relevant man pages translated in greek. So you may add in your Table 6.1 Greek (el)   ISO-8859-7. Additionally: Bulgarian (bg) cp1251 Romanian (ro) ISO-8859-2 Slovenian

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Lefteris Dimitroulakis wrote: With all due respect to lfs-dev's, to you and to the holly book, it will be very bizarre if lfsbook uses the Man package and at the same time is claiming that the included in the package man-pages are NOT readable for whatever reason. Let's clarify the

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread DJ Lucas
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: DJ Lucas wrote: Roll back to file-4.21. The newer versions of file do not display the character set if type is text/troff Testcase please. IMHO they are right, as it is impossible to

Re: New personal experimental book

2008-09-13 Thread Lefteris Dimitroulakis
Στις Saturday 13 September 2008 14:12:00 ο/η Alexander E. Patrakov έγραψε: Let's clarify the situation a bit. There are three possible outcomes for man foo in the ru_RU.UTF-8 locale: 1) Glibberish (unacceptable, but, unfortunately, what happens if the system is misconfigured by an

Re: New personal experimental book [warning: lots of UTF-8 in this]

2008-09-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 05:12:00PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Let's clarify the situation a bit. There are three possible outcomes for man foo in the ru_RU.UTF-8 locale: 1) Glibberish (unacceptable, but, unfortunately, what happens if the system is misconfigured by an