Quoting Oleg Goldshmidt, from the post of Sun, 12 Jan:
I am glad if it is. It is not so clear to me though, because, if you
re-read the thread, there are voices that suggest a Stallmanist line
as an official policy of Hamakor. All I did was saying that in my
opinion it is narrow, divisive,
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 23:33, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
The more I think about it, the more problem I have with it. I distrust
ideology (managing to respect the notion in the process), and I have
resolved many years ago that I would not be a member of any
organization whose purposes and charter
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are just drawing the line somewhere else.
I wholeheartedly agree with that - it's a line-drawing game
..
I choose to draw the line beyond fair use because fair use is an
established legal principle that would be a
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does that mean that you draw the line wherever the law goes?
That's part of it, but it also seems a reasonable place to draw a
line, which I hope is why the law is what it is. After all, I have
bought the CD legally, and I only want to listen to parts
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As a side note, stressing only the technical issues means that
issues such as DRM, Trusted Computing and the DMCA are left out
altogether.
These are technical issues. One should not restrict generic
technologies because
Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Sat, 11 Jan:
I don't know what your basic disagreements are (I guess I'll have to buy
you a beer to find out :))
I think Oleg has put it very clearly in a post here, he's against the
basic ideals of freedom, and
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All of the above technologies and laws are bad on technical
reasons. That much is true. However, if your view of them is purely
technical, you will notice that they are only bad for you IF YOU ARE
USING OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE. If you are not (such as
Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
All of the above technologies and laws are bad on technical
reasons. That much is true. However, if your view of them is purely
technical, you will notice that they are only bad for you IF YOU ARE
USING OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE. If
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:
And excuse me for being pessimistic, but I have a hunch that if the current
trends continues, book libraries will also be a thing of the past in 20 years.
How long do you think the book publishers will agree to stay out of the pay-
per-use or
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It seems to me that you are bringing ideoligy into the discussion,
even as you are claiming to reject the notion.
I don't see how.
Why is it bad that you cannot rip your bought CD and pick and choose
tracks for your car? You are not, as you claim,
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
In another example, I think DMCA and DRM and treacherous computing are
evil. Why? For instance, I happen to own the latest Diana Krall CD. If
you ask me to burn a copy for you, I will refuse, and I hope we can
remain friends after that. I will,
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about Re: RMS over Humous - meeting
summery:
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Book libraries existed and nobody thought that paying $10 a year for a
library subscription (when one book costs more than that) was cheating
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about Re: RMS over Humous - meeting
summery:
Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good idea. Nadav, with your permission I would like to put that up
on Hamakor.
Under Nadav's name, I hope, not as a part of Hamakor's position.
Right. I
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote about Re: RMS over Humous - meeting
summery:
I also agree with some things that RMS says. I do disagree with his
ideas about freedom though on a vary basic level, but I will only
discuss that over some free beer. ;-) On this list it would be
off
Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
preaching for freedom as he does. I hope the new amuta will stress
technical issues rather than ideological ones.
I hope the amuta will replace your rather than with an as well as.
The Amuta's name has free software and open source, right? Let's
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Sat, 11 Jan:
I don't know what your basic disagreements are (I guess I'll have to buy
you a beer to find out :))
I think Oleg has put it very clearly in a post here, he's against the
basic ideals of freedom, and therefore the fact that they are
objectively
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