I have been playing an Edlinger baroque lute for 19 years. I think I am
partial to lutes of the Edlinger school, more so than Hoffman or
Widhalm. I also play a Burkholzer lute which could be considered an
Edlinger, as he did the conversion. The Edlinger baroque lute does have
a very
Shallow body also greatly reduces left arm strain.
RT
On 10/19/2013 4:09 PM, sterling price wrote:
I have been playing an Edlinger baroque lute for 19 years. I think I am
partial to lutes of the Edlinger school, more so than Hoffman or
Widhalm. I also play a Burkholzer lute which
So, the discussion is closed ;-))
Am 18.10.2013 21:26, schrieb Roman Turovsky:
Edlinger is my favorite model.
RT
On 10/18/2013 3:03 PM, BENJAMIN NARVEY wrote:
Dear All,
I am getting a small theorbo made after Edlinger, but my lute maker
feels the model is excessively thin; she
No personal experience with Edlinger copies, but if he was good enough
for Weiss, he ought to be a good enough model for anyone- luthier
lutenist these days. Of course your builder could be nervous the 1st
time around with a new body style. Is he/she on good enough terms with
other luthiers
Oops! I just saw that you said theorbo -forget everything I just wrote.
No experience these things!
On 10/18/2013 12:04 PM, BENJAMIN NARVEY wrote:
Dear All,
I am getting a small theorbo made after Edlinger, but my lute maker
feels the model is excessively thin; she is worried
God question, Anthony. In absence of any evidence anywhere of making
thumb picks for lutes,, I would highly doubt that this was done.
ed
At 08:46 AM 2/8/2008 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote:
Ed
I am still surprised that the long nails succeeded in marking
through the strings. Does anyone
Jaroslaw
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another thought
Ed
I am still surprised that the long
stopped experiment after short playing
time ;-)
Best wishes
Jaroslaw
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and expensive.
Jaroslaw
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short playing time ;-)
Best wishes
Jaroslaw
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Ed
I
08, 2008 8:46 AM
To: Edward Martin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martyn Hodgson
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota -
another thought
Ed
I am still surprised that the long nails succeeded in marking
through the strings. Does anyone know of guitare players leaving
similar marks
Yes, this is how it appears to be. In examining the top, it showed all
signs of nail usage. I have never, ever encountered evidence to show that
some sort of finger pick was used for the baroque lute. Nails were used by
some, and nails are what made these marks.
Keep in mind, that in this
Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:57:24 +
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I agree, but would
No trouble at all, Martyn.
Yes, the marks clearly indicate that it was played as a 13 course lute, as
I have been saying. It shows a hundred or so thumb nail marks near the
rose, and the corresponding marks from finger playing while in this
position. Also, if one were strumming with a
Ed
I am still surprised that the long nails succeeded in marking
through the strings. Does anyone know of guitare players leaving
similar marks?
Do you not think that the luthist might have invented some sort of
extentions to his fingers? These things could be made by anyone.
Look at
Agreed.
ed
At 08:20 AM 2/7/2008 +0100, Andreas Schlegel wrote:
If we take a breaking point at 260 Hz/m (Mimmo wrote from strings
like that), and a a'=392 Hz (and so the the f' is 311 Hz) we are
between the normal breaking point at 321 Hz and the normal stress
point (breaking point minus one
Once again, I doubt it very much. The marks are clearly made from playing
a 13 course lute. And, it is documented that the instruments were in the
castle attic for a very long time.
ed
At 08:46 AM 2/7/2008 +, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Thanks for this. Well if not 'Wandervogel' as such
I agree, but would the strumming be so hard as to leave such marks? This is
why I suggest some sort of ham -fisted guitarist! In 1890, say, not so much
respect would have been had for such an instrument except in specialist and
antiquarian circles.
OI really don't know the reason for
Anthony, and all,
I knew I would open up a can of works with these observations. There are
many, many possibilities. We do not know if the original lutes were bass
lutes, or if they were archlutes, or if they were theorbos, or if they were
actually new lutes by Edlinger. The evidence seems
Interesting Ed. It is true that is these are just surface scratches,
they could have been erased.
As you mentioned a long nail, I though they might be thin but deep.
However, it would be rather strange for a nail to mark though the
strings right up to the diapasons.
One
player played close
At 01:40 PM 2/6/2008 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote:
Interesting Ed. It is true that is these are just surface scratches,
they could have been erased.
As you mentioned a long nail, I though they might be thin but deep.
However, it would be rather strange for a nail to mark though the
strings right
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Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota
To: Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you for this.
Just a thought, but the
Marvelous! Thanks for spinning your yarn, Ed. They also hold the 1680
Cutler-Challen mandolino by Stradivari and a number of other interesting
early mandolins.
http://www.usd.edu/smm/PluckedStrings/Mandolins/StradMandolin/StradMandolin.html
At 08:11 AM 2/6/2008, Edward Martin wrote:
I sent
Good idea, but no, absolutely unlikely. They were documented to be in
storage, and were removed for observation in 1907, when a Heckel looked
at them, and put back into storage in the castle..
ed
.At 01:57 PM 2/6/2008 +, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Thank you for this.
Just a thought, but
Yes, they do! It is breathtaking. I did take some time looking at the
Strad mandolin, as well as the Strad guitar, Sellas guitars, Voboam guitar,
etc, etc.
Incredible.
ed
At 09:07 AM 2/6/2008 -0500, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote:
Marvelous! Thanks for spinning your yarn, Ed. They also hold the
Great question. The answer is simple. It would have been strung with a
standard treble, in the usual fashion. I have not worked out what the top
pitch would be - certainly _not_ f at 415, but perhaps at d at 415. The
whole instrument would have been about a minor third lower, so the lowest
Amen.
ed
At 04:29 PM 2/6/2008 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote:
I am also struck by the small number of lutes that actually are
copied now; and when we think that extant lutes are such a small
number of the great variety that once existed, I can't help thinking
that this is further restricting the wide
I really do not know. It is possible that it could have been in that
tuning. These instruments were in the possession of a noble family, and it
is not known if the family members played them, or if they had professional
musicians on staff. Obviously big baroque lutes were built by Edlinger,
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